#building-and-recc-chat

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edgy viper
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128gb

uncut goblet
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Home goes to 128? i thought that was pro? 😛

edgy viper
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pro goes to 2tb

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w7 had a 16gb limit

jagged ember
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Oh, yeah

uncut goblet
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ok

sand falcon
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I thought that was enterprise with 2TB

edgy viper
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pro does it too

uncut goblet
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What's a good entry level VR capable GPU that can run every game for the next few years? 😛

edgy viper
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2060 super?

sand falcon
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2060 super

jagged ember
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2060S

sand falcon
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Not every game, but enough

jagged ember
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Maybe a 2070

edgy viper
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maybe a 1080 if you can find one cheap

jagged ember
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That's hard to do nowadays though isn't it?

sand falcon
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Yeah

edgy viper
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I mean I have to sell one soon, but yeah

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depends on local availability

jagged ember
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Maybe wait for the new cards to drop

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Prices on current cards should drop

edgy viper
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And flood the market with used cards

sand falcon
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Yups

edgy viper
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especially high end 10 series

jagged ember
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Buy old gpus when new cards drop

uncut goblet
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I am still rocking a 1660 Ti..hope it lasts a bit

edgy viper
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I am gonna get 2 3080tis lol

jagged ember
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Lol I'll just keep using my gpu until it doesn't work

sand falcon
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So apparently windows 10 home can't run a threadripper 3990x

edgy viper
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why not?

sand falcon
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It can, it just won't be able to use all of it

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It only supports 64 logical cores

jagged ember
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Noo

edgy viper
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ahh makes sense

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I would do that @jagged ember , but I do video editing and rendering

jagged ember
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What resolution?

edgy viper
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6k and 8k

jagged ember
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Das a lot of pixels

edgy viper
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and possibly 12k soon

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with that new black magic 12k

jagged ember
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Lool

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I'm still here with my 4k

edgy viper
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It's cheaper than our 8k cameras

jagged ember
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Wait, really?

edgy viper
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it's only 10k

sand falcon
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Yup

edgy viper
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"only"

sand falcon
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Yup

edgy viper
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relatively cheap

jagged ember
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Haha

edgy viper
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still a lot of money, but not for a 12k camera

jagged ember
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Linus bought a couple didn't he?

edgy viper
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6?

sand falcon
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Yup

jagged ember
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6 yeah

sand falcon
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I don't see why they shoot in 12k for youtube, but ya know

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It's Linus

jagged ember
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It looks more crisp when downscaling ig

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And they can now shoot 12k footage for floatplane

edgy viper
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They still only have 4k on floatplane, it's just higher bitrate

jade radish
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anyone know of a good mid range build for a gaming tower tht has RGB?

sand falcon
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Where would you like the RGB and what sort of budget do you have?

fair thistle
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Would I have to update the bios if I wanted to use an ASRock B450M PRO4 mobo for a ryzen 5 3600?

sand falcon
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@fair thistle If it's a new motherboard, no

fair thistle
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Oh ok thanks

white osprey
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Any decent mechanical keyboards around 80 bucks?

sand falcon
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Red dragon is around there

languid mauve
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finally i’ve found it

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oldegg

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also any advantages mechanical vs non mechanical?

desert gulch
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Yes

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Mechanical is better for gaming

little leaf
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@desert gulch really depends on what you like

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You might game worse on reds than mecbrane

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Or browns

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It really depends what you like

slim zealot
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I like browns, and am currently using a brown switch, but I am going to switch to blue or silver

odd crypt
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Silver

slim zealot
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I think I will buy one of each and see how I feel after half a months usage on each

glad lake
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Not sure if this is where I can ask Qs but I recently bought a Corsair h150 cooler fans and pump works, but there is no led showing, any thoughts as to what might be wrong?

swift rain
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msi or evga 2060? evga is 60$ less

viral ore
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the cheaper one obviously

swift rain
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okay

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fits the same right

viral ore
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i would assume so, but you havent given me any details, so i cant answer that question

deep skiff
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probably a ko one

viral ore
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however, its something that google can answer

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look up the length of the gpu, and the max supported gpu length of the case

flint sandal
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Hey guys!!!!

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I have a question

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I wanted some assistance locating an RTX 2060 and up that has RGB capability or pretty much any graphics card that is great for multi-monitor setup, gaming, and video editing. I would prefer RGB. I would like to to fit in my DeepCool Genome II case.

sand falcon
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any modern GPU can do full RGB

viral ore
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we already helped him in general chat lmao

sand falcon
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Ah, okay

viral ore
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he spammed this in like 4 chats

sand falcon
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Nice

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Always fun when people do that

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It's like they don't realize it's the same people in all the chats

unkempt ibex
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What’s a good pc case under 70

little osprey
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DDR4 1866 2133 Mhz SODIMM is what I was told to get to update my ram

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what is 1866/2133 mean

deep skiff
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those would be the speed in mhz

sand falcon
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What CPU do you have?

little osprey
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core i5-8250u cpu@ 1.6 ghz

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the speeds are a to from?

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I want to get a Ram upgrade to my computer and the acer tech said that is the specs for my ram to upgrade with

sand falcon
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I believe it would be an either or

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How much ram do you currently have?

little osprey
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can i get a 1866 or 2133? or is 1866/2133 a specific spec

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8GB so far

sand falcon
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Are you looking to use the old stick with the new one, or just to get an entirely new kit?

little osprey
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one 16GB piece

sand falcon
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So just getting rid of the old stick?

little osprey
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yes

sand falcon
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Do you have one slot or two?

little osprey
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one that is soldered into the mother board and one that I can replace; id be throwing away a 4GB and replace it with at 16 to max out at 20GB

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as per the tech

sand falcon
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Okay

fallow bear
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I bought a b550 mortar from Newegg (Shipped and Sold By Newegg) and it didn't have any plastic sealing the Motherboard. Is this normal?

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I'm worried they gave me a used board

sand falcon
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What do you mean sealing?

little osprey
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thank you bob

deep skiff
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the antistatic bag?

sand falcon
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I don't think the bags are usually sealed, are they?

fallow bear
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No i mean the box itself

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it was just open

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also the inside of the box has some wear so I was a bit worried

sand falcon
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Oh, like the box wasn't sealed in anything?

fallow bear
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yeah

sand falcon
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I'm pretty sure that's normal

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There's not really any point in putting a staticy plastic cling film/shrink wrap around sensitive electronics

fallow bear
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okay, I was just worried. It'd suck to pay full price and get something used

potent prairie
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My honest attempt at drawing my setup

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I am not artistically inclined

autumn wolf
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long desk

potent prairie
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It's not lol

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My arms are also not that long

sullen spoke
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i would be afraid tha tthe table would fall and break what is left of my knees

viral ore
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@ripe smelt ask for help here, much easier

ripe smelt
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help...

viral ore
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lol

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whats your budget

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and what do you wanna use the pc for?

ripe smelt
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I’m saving up I’m at 300 right now but I hope I can get a build that’s in the 600 or 800

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I plan on streaming and playing a lot of games

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Going along with editing and music

viral ore
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so basic video editing

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like adding effects and such

ripe smelt
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yes

viral ore
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for streaming you want an nvidia gpu

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so if your looking to spend 600-800, that leaves you with like an R5 3600 and an RTX 2060

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maybe, it would be a squeeze tho

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when are you looking to buy?

ripe smelt
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like maybe around November maybe

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or October

viral ore
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nice, save up, and when the time comes to buy components, come here and ask then, because we're expecting some big product launches around that time

spiral zealot
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yeah, plus black friday will mean the chance for deals as well

viral ore
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anything anybody tells you now will be useless information to you when the time comes to actually purchase things

deep skiff
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i'd probably wait for next gen to drop and then get a 2070 or something for cheap used

ripe smelt
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I don’t know a lot about pc parts

viral ore
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thats ok, because we do

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concentrate on saving money, and when you feel like your ready to buy, come back here

ripe smelt
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sure thing

weak path
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Hi, I have few questions about building a computer. Mine died a sad death, and needs replacing

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I haven't built a computer for probably 20 years and need a little hand holding. If I purchased the "mainstream" build, would it include everything I need, excluding a screwdriver?

sand falcon
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@weak path I am a bit confused... are you looking to build a computre or buy a prebuilt?

lime forge
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@weak path screwdriver is all you would need :)

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might want to get some zip ties to tie cables down to manage them, but other than that, screwdriver is all you should need

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also, might want to get screwdrivers of different sizes, although a standard philips screwdriver should be plenty fine

desert gulch
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And have something to cut zip ties with :)

weak path
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@Bob, I am looking at building one with the components on the website listed as "mainstream". I live in a remote area, and have no computer stores near me.

plucky cradle
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Anyone know any motherboards with wifi under 200 that support amd 3rd gen

weak path
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I have several screwdrivers, and my own zip tie kit, so I guess I'm good to go.

sand falcon
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The newegg website?

weak path
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Yes

sand falcon
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@plucky cradle I'll find one for you

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Let me check what their "mainstream" parts are... it's usually better to pick you own

plucky cradle
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ok thank you.

sand falcon
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@weak path yeah, this isn't the greatest list

weak path
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Thank you! I really don't have a clue. What do you suggest?

sand falcon
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@weak path First off, what is your budget, and what do you plan on doing with the computer?

plucky cradle
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@sand falcon that is micro

sand falcon
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And?

plucky cradle
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I forgot to say I need a ATX

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sorry

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do you know if the Asus AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi is any good

sand falcon
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Any particular reason? Any case that supports ATX will also support mATX. Do you need the extra slots?

plucky cradle
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ok thank you.

sand falcon
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Just making sure, you won't be running an overclocked 3900x or 3950x?

weak path
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@Bob, I would like to stay under $2000. I play some online games, and scan and edit my art. I don't want to see an interesting looking game (Death Stranding, for example) to come along, and I don't meet the specs

desert gulch
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Any steaming?

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Or video editing?

weak path
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@Bob, naw, that overclocking stuff is for a younger crowd.

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I do stream Netflix

sand falcon
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Streaming from your rig, that is

weak path
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No video editing

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Yes

desert gulch
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So Nvidia

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Since it's better for steaming games

weak path
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Does YouTube count as streaming?

sand falcon
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No

desert gulch
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No

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Do you want to do twitch?

sand falcon
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For if you're sharing your screen to a bunch of other people

weak path
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No twitch yet. My granddaughter wants me to, but not there yet! Lol

sand falcon
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Okay

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I'm thinking we won't need that powerful of a GPU, so we can put that into stuff that will be more useful for art

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I'm thinking a 2060 super

desert gulch
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Do you need a monitor?

sand falcon
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Oh yes, that too

desert gulch
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Or peripherals?

weak path
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I really should get a new monitor

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I need wifi access, too

sand falcon
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New monitor on da list

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rip wifi 😦

weak path
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Wifi stick, then.

sand falcon
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The "rip wifi" was just the fact that everyone seems to be stuck on wifi

weak path
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NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case. Ok

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My husband has the one LAN port in our router plugged into his tv, so wifi is my only option

sand falcon
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Please not that case

weak path
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Ok! Lol... you pick one! I am not fussy!

sand falcon
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Basically any case but that one works

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That one is just super cliche, expensive, and has horrible cooling

weak path
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Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB

(27)

sand falcon
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As per ethernet, it's possible to get a switch that will take the one port and split it out into multiple ports

weak path
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Better?

sand falcon
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Yup

weak path
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Alrighty then

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I don't know if we can do that with this router. We're on the Telus hub

sand falcon
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To the router, it only appears to be one device

weak path
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It's for rural areas, working on cell tower

sand falcon
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I'll put it this way: if you're internet provider somehow made it impossible, they're probably breaking a few laws

weak path
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Oh, well, maybe we could, I don't know

sand falcon
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We'll get wifi in any case, it's not too expensive

weak path
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Ok.

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Are you in BC, Bob?

sand falcon
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I am not. I will make a list for CAD though

weak path
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Thanks

plucky cradle
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should I get a modular or non modular for a nzxt h510

foggy hazel
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whichever you want to deal with

sand falcon
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See my comments before about the nzxt h510

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@plucky cradle

deep skiff
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:v h510 isn’t that bad people pick cases that they like

sand falcon
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Yeah, but I like to steer people away from it. It's a hot 90 buck flat box

deep skiff
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🤷‍♂️ people like it

hybrid ether
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Can somebody quickly double check a part list for me? It’s my first time actually building a pc and I think it’s good, I just don’t wanna end up screwed

deep skiff
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that’s why I don’t usually change the case on builds cause it’s preference

hybrid ether
sand falcon
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@hybrid ether Link it and we'll look

hybrid ether
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Thank you audreyLove

sand falcon
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Okay cool cat, we're gonna have to talk about these SSDs

hybrid ether
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Oh?

sand falcon
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Yes

hybrid ether
sand falcon
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What will you be doing with this computer?

hybrid ether
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Gaming mainly?

sand falcon
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Okay

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How many games do you play reguraly?

hybrid ether
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Are they not the type of ssd for that?

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Uhh

sand falcon
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They are a whole heckalot of cheap ssd

hybrid ether
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...I tend to jump around a ton

sand falcon
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Okay

weak path
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@Bob, I've got a compatibility warning

sand falcon
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It's fine

hybrid ether
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My 1tb laptop is only not full because I deleted some games because I’m building this pc

sand falcon
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@weak path That's a leftover from when the CPUs were first released. It's fixed now

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@hybrid ether I'd say you'd be more than fine with one good quality 512GB ssd an the two 2TB HDDs

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These are very low quality SSDs, so they could wear out a lot faster and won't really read that much faster than a good harddrive

weak path
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@Bob Ok. I like the big hard drive and lots of ram. Does it want extra cooling?

hybrid ether
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Hm

sand falcon
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@weak path The cooler that comes with the CPU and the fans that come with the case will be enough

weak path
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Ok. Thank you so much for all the help!

hybrid ether
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It was plan A, then I got worried about money but my paycheck was significantly better than I thought it be

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@sand falcon other than the ssd thing is there any other issues?

sand falcon
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There are a few changes I'm making

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Do you really need 2TB of ssd?

weak path
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@Bob, one more thing. I don't see a dvd drive.

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We still need those,right?

sullen spoke
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not many people use dvd drives in pc todya

sand falcon
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You can buy an external one to plug into a USB port

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most cases don't have a space for them anymore

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@hybrid ether Another issue I just saw... you only have one stick of ram

weak path
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Oh, ok. I do have one of those already,

hybrid ether
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Mhm?

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It was cheaper than 2 8gbs

sand falcon
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There's a good reason for that

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One stick of 3000MHz ram is gonna be a huge bottleneck

hybrid ether
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It is?

sand falcon
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Yes

hybrid ether
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Oh

sand falcon
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We're talking 20, 30 fps, sometimes even more

hybrid ether
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Oh

sand falcon
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Yup

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With the better SSD, faster ram, and a 2080 super, I would predict you will see anywhere from 20% to 50% improvement from the original list

viral ore
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case fans?

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other than that is good list

hybrid ether
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I kinda wanna stick with intel

sand falcon
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Case doesn't come with any, I just left the ones he had on

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Why intel?

viral ore
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oh psh

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how did i not see those

sand falcon
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oops sassy

viral ore
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then is good list lol

sand falcon
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Anyhoo, why intel?

hybrid ether
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The games I tend to bounce around with (and my favorites that I’ve modded to the point they’re uh... laggy) are like 10 years old and not the ...best with multicore

sand falcon
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Ah, 10 year old games it's not gonna matter at all which way you go

hybrid ether
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A few literally break with multi core

sand falcon
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Intel CPUs have multicore too

hybrid ether
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I know

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But the intel has better individual cores

sand falcon
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barely

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And it's enough better than the CPUs when those games came out that it isn't going to matter

hybrid ether
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...and intel tends to be easier to install, more plug and play

sand falcon
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No

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They both just plug in

sacred obsidian
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theyre about the same

sand falcon
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Whereever you read that was lying to you

hybrid ether
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Huh

sand falcon
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Trust me, they're both far more than enough to run a ten year old game

sacred obsidian
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the amd ryzen series is better bang for buck but if you want intel then go for it. theyre both good cpus.

sand falcon
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The main thing is that with AMD I was able to fit in a 2080 super instead of a 2070 super

hybrid ether
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...also an uncle of mine works at intel and I feel awkward buying amd

sand falcon
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Wait, can you get an employee discount?

hybrid ether
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No

sand falcon
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If intel doesn't give him an employee discount, don't feel awkward about it

sacred obsidian
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The main thing is that with AMD I was able to fit in a 2080 super instead of a 2070 super
you mean budget wise?

sand falcon
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Yup

sacred obsidian
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okay i was confused for a minute cause i thought you meant space wise lol

sand falcon
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Also 2x8 3600mhz now instead of 1x16 3000mhz

hybrid ether
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That and I uh... kinda screwed myself with the monitor I bought so a 2080 super wouldn’t actually be that helpful

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Till I buy a new one

sacred obsidian
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still helpful in some cases. newer games can still put you at like 40-50 fps on a 2070 super at max settings, would fair better on 2080 super

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but also, you can upgrade the monitor later too. dont let that stop you lol

hybrid ether
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I knowww

sand falcon
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Honestly, with 10 year old games you might as well get a 1660s. It's just you can afford a 2080s

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Also, here's the 3700x compared to intel's $1000+ flagship CPU from 2012:

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Just saying

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If you want intel, get the 10600k and the d15s cooler

hybrid ether
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Hm?

sand falcon
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That is a locked motherboard

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Your CPU will run at a diminished speed, and you won't be able to run the ram faster than 2666MHz

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basically you'll be paying for performance that you won't be able to use

viral ore
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Trust me, they're both far more than enough to run a ten year old game
@sand falcon you say that, but keep in mind that minecraft is a 10 year old game.....

sand falcon
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To be fair, minecraft has been continuously updated. The original version I predict would run without any issues

viral ore
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lol yeah

sand falcon
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@hybrid ether If you want that ram and that CPU, you will want a Z series motherboard

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Though note that if you use that ram, it will void your CPUs warrenty

hybrid ether
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Wait really?

cursive wharf
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Tbh I'd wait until AMD 4000 and RTX 3000

sand falcon
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Yup

cursive wharf
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And just get those fun stuff

sand falcon
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Running ram faster than 2933 with the 10700k will void its warrenty

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Some kits will void it even lower than that

little osprey
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can i ask a tech question here

weak path
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@Bob, I need a different power supply.

sand falcon
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Can do

cursive wharf
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Do note that most people at Intel don't really ask about the XMP/RAM OC stuff. They also have no way to prove whether you OCed or not

sand falcon
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That is true

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Theoretically, they could put a switch in the CPU, but I don't think even intel would do that

weak path
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Thank you. I think so

sand falcon
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You're welcome 👍

Also, since that motherboard doesn't even support XMP in the first place, it wouldn't be an issue

weak path
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Erf, out of stock!

weak path
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Thanks. Abain

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Again

plucky cradle
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Should I go 5700 xt or 2060 to or super

sand falcon
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Will you be streaming Comet?

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Or CAD

weak path
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Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 - TT Premium Edition PS-TPD-0650FNFAGA-1 650W ATX12V Power Supply
(15) How about this one!?

viral ore
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@junior kelp it almost looks like your PCIe power cable is pulling your GPU down.

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make sure the cable isnt putting any extra strain on the gpu itself

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from the picture, the GPU is clearly sagging

weak path
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@sand falcon Sorry, third times the charm... will this one work? Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 - TT Premium Edition PS-TPD-0650FNFAGA-1 650W ATX12V Power Supply

sand falcon
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I'll have to check that one.. Thermaltake are hit and miss

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It works 👍

junior kelp
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@viral ore It looks that way, but it isn't affecting it as far as I can tell. My graphics card is very thick and heavy, which is why it sags.

dense yoke
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How can one tell on the reset sw which is the ground? Im thinking it's the one with a TKG with arrow but want to verify. Nothing in the Corsair manual says that

still roostBOT
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Kmars180#1811 has been warned

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old hearth
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Intel Core i9-10900K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor

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Thermaltake Water 3.0 360 ARGB Sync Edition 56.45 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

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MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

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G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory x2

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Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

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TCSunBow X3 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive

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Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB AORUS Video Card

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Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Razer ATX Full Tower Case

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Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

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Thermaltake Pure 12 ARGB TT Premium Edition 56.45 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack

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Thermaltake Pure 12 ARGB TT Premium Edition 56.45 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack

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hows this for new pc list 2430

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comes to about $2430

little osprey
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Having issues with transferring everything in my system to my new case. I got everything I could connect connected but now it's not posting

desert gulch
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@old hearth P1 is a little slow for your budget

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Get an mp34

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Or sn750

old hearth
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ok

vital warren
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so i was going to get a dark rock pro4 for about $90 for my new build, but the arctic liquid freezer is $120, should i just stick to the air cooler? is it really worth the extra 30

slender owl
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Do you plan on overclocking? And what cpu?

stoic island
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@vital warren Arctic freezer II should be 100$-110$, at that point it's a great deal, but if it is 120$+, both are just good options

vital warren
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its 120 on newegg

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the 360mm one

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which seems like a great deal

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didnt wanna dish out a lot for an aio but this should be fine

stoic island
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Yea 120$ for 360mm is great

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I thought you meant the 240/280mm

vital warren
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nah i got the td500 mesh and it fits 360mm

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and i got my ssd/hdd today so lifes going great lmao

little osprey
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who here has used sony vega

fast dust
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s

analog hearth
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s

fallow bear
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So I have 3700x

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and I bought a Hyper 212 evo and I also have this scythe cooler thing

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I'm really lazy about installing this hyper 212 evo's backplate

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should I just...use the scythe?

little osprey
#

Having issues with my system it won't post

desert gulch
#

Will it power on?

cursive wharf
#

@old hearth high core count CPU with low RAM? High CL RAM too. Both SSDs are quite budget given he PC budget. No 2080Ti despite budget. Fans are pricy for what they are.
Should change a few things tbh. Also worth waiting instead of buying now and get a 4700x+3080Ti

old hearth
#

i am waiting for 3080, fans im sticking with i like them, and what about the ram i have 32 gbs?

normal minnow
#

Yo my fresh crafter pc isnt working can someone help me?

old hearth
#

@cursive wharf

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also changed the ssds

normal minnow
#

Fresh crafted***

old hearth
#

and fitting a 2080ti for the price it is at 1100 cut some other stuff out of my build which i liked

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it cut it closer then i like @cursive wharf , the pc comes out to likje 2400

cursive wharf
#

why are you even getting a 10900k?

hybrid ether
old hearth
#

great for gaming and better core count than last generation, also handles workloads better, though i originally had a 3900x there

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i replaced it when new gen came out

cursive wharf
#

It's also worth budgeting for a $1000 GPU as AMDs flagship is expected to be that price, so I'd take a guess Nvidia's would be too

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also, just getting a 10600k and dual asetek gen7 AIO on CPU/GPU or custom loop+ OC gets better perf

old hearth
#

yes to much rfor me though im new to this

#

i was thinking 10700k though

cursive wharf
#

if you're waiting for RTX 3000, wait for Zen3 tbh

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Zen3 8c/16t is going to be exactly as good or better then Intel

old hearth
#

yea but 3000 comes out in sep and im going for 3080 which is supposed to come out as cheaper then 2080 by a tiny bit and thats what im hoping

#

also zen 3 yea hopefully better for gaming

cursive wharf
#

Zen3 launch is still 2020 Q4, same as 3000

old hearth
#

yea hopefully it does good

cursive wharf
#

no specifics known yet

old hearth
#

yea but im going for 3080 with same build as long as the zzen 3 does not beat it out

wary geode
#

1000$ build who can make the best parts list tryna see if I built mine correctly

cursive wharf
#

tbh you'd get more with a 10600k+3800MT/s low CL RAM then a 10900k+3600MT/s high CL RAM

#

probs could even fit in a 4000MT/s kit

old hearth
#

yea i could just change the ram to 4200 viper kit though with better CL

wary geode
#

Oh yeah my Corsair vengeance ram stops rgb and my system won’t run 3200 MHz without it crashing

#

It’s a x470 prime pro

deep skiff
#

or just get a 3600cl14 kit and crank up the speed

old hearth
#

new to this would not be comfortable doing that

cursive wharf
#

it'd be ideal to get a bit more comfortable with this stuff given the amount of money you're willing on spending

old hearth
#

Well yes but that’s why my dad is helping me and such hes a software engineer

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I just don’t want to mess with an already good product until I’m good with my pc

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I’ve been researching these parts for a while

#

@cursive wharf

lone trellis
#

How do i ove clock a cpu to make it over the ghz it shows i got a laptop core i5 10th gen i need help with it

silk estuary
#

Might not be able to oc if it's an Intel laptop processor

lone trellis
#

Oof how do i get to the one part of the laptop when it shows storage Wi-Fi and ghz i wanna see how fast it is

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It shows the speed i dk what its called

#

Dm me if you know what i am talking about

spiral zealot
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right click on the task bar, click task manager, and then if it's in basic mode, click More Details at the bottom

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and then click Performance

sand falcon
#

How fast what is?

deep skiff
#

hm laptops and overclocking dont usually go well

sand falcon
#

^

lone trellis
#

@Chauntalei#4629 thank you

sand falcon
#

@lone trellis What CPU do you have?

lone trellis
#

Core i5 10th gen

sand falcon
#

Which i5

lone trellis
#

Let me check

sand falcon
#

👍

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@hybrid ether Why the five extra case fans?

lone trellis
#

1035g1

little leaf
#

WAT?

#

wat

sand falcon
#

I what now?

#

Found it

little leaf
#

laptop chip

lone trellis
#

Yes

little leaf
#

what do you want again?

lone trellis
#

Over clock it

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To like 2.6 or 3 ghz

little leaf
#

do not

sand falcon
#

It already has a max turbo of 3.6

lone trellis
#

Oh oof

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I diddnt know

little leaf
#

lmao

sand falcon
#

It also seems to have a locked multiplier

#

General rule of thumb: you can't overclock a laptop

lone trellis
#

Ok

hasty spoke
#

the fans dont even start

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(continuing conversation)

#

nothing boots up

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but the peripheral (my KB) gets power

sand falcon
#

Is there any sort of light on the motherboard?

hasty spoke
#

other than the LED that flashes for that half a second once I flip the PSU on, no

#

if you go on logical increments, all the parts are listed in the Enthusiast tier

sand falcon
#

Does the LED have any text printed by it? What color is it?

hasty spoke
#

its inside a heatsink, i believe

#

i can take a pic if youd like

sand falcon
#

Okay

hasty spoke
#

its by the back I/O panel of the motherboard

#

here lemme post

sand falcon
#

You'll have to DM it to me for now

stoic island
#

wait a sec

#

which Gigabyte x570 Aorus is it

hasty spoke
#

elite

stoic island
#

Aorus ultra, Aorus pro wifi, Aorus pro, Aorus Master

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oh then it doesn't have a debug code lmao

hasty spoke
#

idek what that is lmfao

jagged ember
#

Wait, how do you diagnose a PC without a debug led?

hasty spoke
#

all i know is that im flustered and highly upset 😢 I've ordered a miniswitch for the POWER SW pins

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because unfortunately

sand falcon
hasty spoke
#

i ripped the front panel off the Enthoo case I bought

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yep

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right where it says Aorus

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one single instant flash of white comes on

sand falcon
#

Okay

hasty spoke
#

kinda looks like static tbh but i know its not

sand falcon
#

So that's just the RGB getting power

jagged ember
#

So we know mobo gets power

sand falcon
#

What did you say happened to the switch?

hasty spoke
#

i had taken off the front and top panel of my case and installed my dvd optical drive and reassembled it the wrong way putting the front panel in first (with the latch that holds optical drives on)

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and once i realized that i pulled off the front panel, ripping the two wires which let the power button (and other front i/o ports) work, i presume

#

to make a long story short

#

i cant power my pc on through my case

#

so i ordered a microswitch on amazon

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to see if thatd manually start the motherboard

hybrid ether
#

@sand falcon because it only comes with 1 fan?

jagged ember
#

You can plug in your case's reset button to your power SW

hasty spoke
#

ive done that

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didnt work

#

correct polarity and everything

sand falcon
#

@hybrid ether Why not just get three good fans?

hybrid ether
#

Well I could do 4

sand falcon
#

@hasty spoke What is currently hooked up to the power switch? Can you take a picture?

hasty spoke
#

yeah

hybrid ether
#

Front, top, side, back

hasty spoke
#

well

sand falcon
#

You really only need three Cool Cat

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Three front, one back

jagged ember
#

Lol yep

stoic island
#

You can jump the mobo too yaknow

hasty spoke
#

nothing is hooked up to it @sand falcon , I just try to jump start it with a screwdriver

jagged ember
#

Most direct airflow

hasty spoke
#

yeah

hybrid ether
#

Well one to put on the hdd cage

sand falcon
#

Okay, try the screw driver

hasty spoke
#

ive done that

sand falcon
#

You don't need a fan for an HDD

hasty spoke
#

the fans stay dead

#

in my eyes, the number one good sign would be to see the fan on my heatsink turn on

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because thatd prove the mobo is providing power to all my parts, no?

#

but that doesnt happen

hybrid ether
#

The case has one there, or ssd, it’s got a side fan is what I’m saying

hasty spoke
#

not even when i try to jump it

sand falcon
#

What color is the screwdriver?

hasty spoke
#

Orange and black

sand falcon
#

Do you have a silver one?

hasty spoke
#

I also have a screw driver that came with the case

jagged ember
#

So LTT themed

hasty spoke
#

yeah

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its silver

#

here lemme take a pic

sand falcon
#

Try the silver one

jagged ember
#

The silver one is likely conductive

hasty spoke
#

@sand falcon ive sent you a pic

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ive also tried a paper clip

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and to no avail

sand falcon
#

Ah

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I was hoping it was just the coating on the screw driver

hasty spoke
#

bro, you're telling me 😢

#

ive got a 2080ti and Ryzen 9 series in there

#

im desperate to boot it up

sand falcon
#

They're probably still okay

hasty spoke
#

i can send you all the pictures of my build unless youve already pulled the parts up

sand falcon
#

Yeah. can you send a nice clean picture of the whole assembly?

jagged ember
#

Have you checked and reseated all connections?

hasty spoke
#

yes i have @jagged ember

#

@sand falcon im on it

sand falcon
#

👍

hasty spoke
#

so @sand falcon

#

that first picture

#

is my mobo out of the case

sand falcon
hasty spoke
#

thats what it currently is

sand falcon
hasty spoke
#

24 pin and CPU 8pin connected

sand falcon
hasty spoke
#

that is what it was

#

when it was hooked on the case

#

that is another angle of what it was

sand falcon
#

I can pull in the full res if any y'all want to see them

hasty spoke
#

i know those are poor pics

#

i dont have good lighting to show all the parts clearly tbh

#

and my phone is dying

#

alrighty @sand falcon , I've sent you the part list

sand falcon
#

Can you try putting the reset switch in the power switch slots?

stoic island
#

the heck

hasty spoke
#

I've done this, and it didnt work

#

but

#

I will do it again

#

one sec

stoic island
#

Tried paperclip test yet?

#

on the PSU?

sand falcon
#

Might be worth

#

Is it a modular PSU?

#

Actually, one thing first for sanity

stoic island
#

Can't you do it on the other end even if it's non-modular?

sand falcon
#

You can, but then you have to worry about the cable and all that

hasty spoke
#

So

sand falcon
#

Anyhow, what position is the switch on the back of the PSU in?

hasty spoke
#

RESET SW in POWER SW fpanel pins did not boot computer

#

ive done several different metallic objs, paperclips, screwdri, etc

sand falcon
#

Okay

hasty spoke
#

i turn the position to I, in which the green LED on the PSU turns on

sand falcon
#

Cool

#

Mr.1, you want to walk them through the PSU test? I forget which pins you use

full elk
#

yo what all is plugged into the motherboard

hasty spoke
#

i suspect the motherboard or something else is messed up but honestly i wish i had a multimeter at this point

#

I have my GPU, Mobo, and CPU Fan connected

sand falcon
#

@full elk posted a parts list a bit ago

full elk
#

oh

hasty spoke
#

and i have one stick of ram

sand falcon
#

Also @hasty spoke, you can post pics now

hasty spoke
#

to see if the ram was the issue

#

ah

#

Thanks alot ^_^

sand falcon
#

That wasn't me, it was just the bot deciding you were worthy

hasty spoke
#

lmao

#

feels good to be worthy in a community that will hopefully solve this anguish lmao

full elk
#

I plugged into the wireless pcie1x2 wifi all I gotta wait for is the gpu

sand falcon
#

Nice

#

Okay Mr1 seems to be gone...

hasty spoke
#

forgot to clarify it is indeed a modular PSU

#

@stoic island

sand falcon
#

Cool

hasty spoke
#

what do these pin tests do

sand falcon
#

@stoic island

stoic island
#

what

sand falcon
#

We'se gonna ping spam you

still roostBOT
#
Llama Yokohama#0950 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

stoic island
#

yall already did it earlier

#

when naed came back

sand falcon
#

You know how to do this

#

Wait naed is back

hasty spoke
#

sorry, i said ive seen a video of ice poseidon sticking a pin into his psu and it gave an arc

stoic island
#

Yea Naed is back

#

He's online now

sand falcon
#

You don't actually stick it in the PSU

hasty spoke
#

ah

sand falcon
#

🤯

hasty spoke
#

LOL

sand falcon
#

Naed

hasty spoke
#

well im here, humbly, to learn and id deeply appreciate it if i could get any kind of conclusion other than what im at now

sand falcon
#

Anyhow, the 24 pin connector has two pins that if you put a paper clip between them, it will trigger the PSU to boot

hasty spoke
#

hmmm

#

do i have to look in my Mobo manual to see these two pins or?

#

how do i ID them

sand falcon
#

I'll have to find a chart

#

Disconnect the 24 pin, and all the CPU and GPU power connectors

hasty spoke
#

also by PSU booting, you mean the computer turning on and posting on the monitor?

#

fans starting, etc?

#

kk

sand falcon
#

The PSU will turn on and hopefully start its own fan spinning

#

Do you have a multimeter on hand?

hasty spoke
#

I do not

sand falcon
#

Okay, no biggie

hasty spoke
#

phew

#

i was sweating already hahaha

#

everything is disconnected, minus the DisplayPort on my GPU

#

i didnt disconnect the cables directly from the PSU if thats what you were asking, however

sand falcon
#

Is it a 24 pin or a 20+4 pin?

#

Leave them connected to the PSU for now

hasty spoke
#

24 pin

sand falcon
#

Okay

#

All the CPU and GPU power connectors are unplugged?

hasty spoke
#

yep

sand falcon
#

Cool

hasty spoke
#

@fallow bear im from NY too 😄

#

Yonkers here

#

i saw you typing 👀

#

not to mention

#

you have a SF pfp

#

but let me not get on a tangent

#

would you like me to send pics of the manual for my mobo?

sand falcon
#

So here's a pin out chart. Hold the connector so that the hollow end plugs are pointing towards you, and the little clip is on the right

#

The pattern of D shaped prongs and square prongs should match this picture

hasty spoke
#

@sand falcon ok

#

clyde wont let me post a picture from my cellphone but

#

i was holding it in that position

sand falcon
#

kay

hasty spoke
#

i cant upload pics so just give me directions as im outside my room

#

im going now

sand falcon
#

Each end of the paper clip should go in each pin socket

fallow bear
#

@hasty spoke Good luck with your pc build, we'r eboth struggling at the moment lol

#

Is there any guide that shows where to place the standoffs for mATX on the Fractal Meshify C?

#

the manual doesnt say anything

sand falcon
#

Yes

#

Look at the holes on the motherboard and match them up 🙂

hasty spoke
#

@sand falcon

#

I sent you a personal pic

sand falcon
#

That's pretty much the best way

hasty spoke
#

is that good enough?

sand falcon
#

Should be

#

Any results?

hasty spoke
#

what would you like me do now?

#

plug the PSU and switch it from O to I?

sand falcon
#

Yup

hasty spoke
#

kk brb

#

bro!

#

omg!

#

that is literally the first sign of life Ive heard from ANY part on my computer!

#

@sand falcon bless you man!

#

im ecstatic to walk through this!

sand falcon
#

Woot!

#

So that is a good sign

#

Go ahead and hook all the power connectors back up

hasty spoke
#

alright, should i leave the paper clip on or?

#

and just hook up CPU and GPU?

#

because the t hing is

#

when I turn my PSU on while its connected to my mobo

#

that fan doesnt turn on

#

that PSU fan, that is

#

@sand falcon

little osprey
#

How do you install an Intel cpu correctly I only remember amd

sand falcon
#

@little osprey Line up the triangles and don't touch the shiny bits

#

We shall see what happens Llama. Take out the paper clip for now, and go ahead an hook up the 24 pin and the CPU power

little osprey
sand falcon
#

I believe so. It should just drop right into place if it's right

spiral zealot
#

there are also notches in the edge of the cpu and 2 little tabs in the edge of the socket

#

line those up

#

and it should drop right in

little osprey
#

You're right thanks you two
@sand falcon @spiral zealot

hasty spoke
#

Okay @sand falcon , I've connected the CPU and 24pin

#

I havent connected CPU_FAN though

#

should I connect that?

sand falcon
#

Yes

#

How many connectors is it using for CPU, just out of curiosity?

hasty spoke
#

4x2

#

so there's two clips with 4 holes

#

after ive connected CPU_FAN, what would you like me to do? @sand falcon

#

also let me know if you'd like me to stop pinging you

little osprey
#

Welp I've got power in the mobo and I even touched the power switch 2-pin with a screwdriver but nada
I think the mobo is dead

hasty spoke
#

yes! @little osprey thats the EXACT same problem i have

little osprey
#

Or the pins are

sand falcon
#

Unplug the GPU from the mobo for now

hasty spoke
#

but from what I understand, my CPU/mobo doesnt have integrated graphics @sand falcon

#

should i unplug it anyways? because thatd require me to fetch an HDMI cable to connect into the mobo despite I have a DP connection on GPU

sand falcon
#

Unplug it for now for testing

#

If all goes well, it will trigger the motherboard to detect it being missing as an issue

hasty spoke
#

alrighty

#

@sand falcon my CPU is connected, 24pin connected, HDMI to mobo connected, GPU disconnected. Flip O to I now, right? Tell what results show up on my monitor, or?

sand falcon
#

Nothing should show up on the monitor

#

Go ahead and flip it on

hasty spoke
#

what should i be looking out for?

#

the only thing that will happen is

#

that white LED by the back I/O heatsink is going to flash

#

but brb imma do it

#

@sand falcon psu fan did not turn on

sand falcon
#

Once it's on, go ahead and use the screwdriver between the power pins

hasty spoke
#

no life except for white LED

#

alrighty brb

normal minnow
#

I have 0 life in my pc at all can someone call? Ive done a shitton of stuff to try to diagnose it already

sand falcon
#

You are the third person tonight :/

#

What have you already done?

silk estuary
#

What the hell are y'all doing to your pcs

sand falcon
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

hasty spoke
#

@sand falcon

#

screwdriver did not jump start

#

im starting to sweat

#

however i did hear the PSU fan start up

sand falcon
#

Cool cool

#

Is there any sort of lights on the motherboard?

hasty spoke
#

just that instant flicker

#

the white LED

sand falcon
#

But the PSU fan is on?

hasty spoke
#

yeah

sand falcon
#

Does it stay on?

hasty spoke
#

yeah

normal minnow
#

Screwdriver test pc didnt turn on, im getting no life at all not even psu fan spinning, ive tried 1 stick of ram in all 4 diff dim slots, Ive tried a lot of configurations of front panel connections, ive done the paper clip test with my psu and it made the psu turn on so thats the only good news I have but I dont even know if it is good news

hasty spoke
#

yeah its literally like everyone is dealing with the same issue lmao

#

craaaazy!

silk estuary
#

Wtf

still roostBOT
#
PreProxy#7490 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

normal minnow
#

Oops

silk estuary
#

Imagine y'all had the same part that was the issue

normal minnow
#

Im trying to build this for a friend and it hasnt worked from the start

sand falcon
#

Okay, @hasty spoke go ahead and try the GPU back in

normal minnow
#

Oh and ive tried with like every config of cables plugged and unplugged

hasty spoke
#

oh

#

and btw

#

@sand falcon

#

the GPU is weird

#

its like

#

a 6pin connecter then a 2 pin connecter

#

and its two sets of those sets

#

something like that

#

let me go replug it

jagged ember
#

6+2 is normal lol

hasty spoke
#

what about

#

6+2x2

#

is that because the GPU pulls alot of power from the PSU?

jagged ember
#

on the same cable, right?

hasty spoke
#

its two modular cables

#

each cable is 6+2

stoic island
#

2x(6+2) is normal

sand falcon
#

Yup, pulls a lot of power

jagged ember
#

normal, yep

hasty spoke
#

kk

stoic island
#

6+2+2 would not be

hasty spoke
#

brb reconnecting GPU

#

kk

#

so i flipped the psu on

#

and it didnt show any bios

#

at this point

#

the best sign to me would be if the CPU fan and GPU fans turned on

#

but neither of those have happened

#

if i saw those two fans run, im sure i could load up a bios

#

@stoic island @sand falcon @jagged ember

#

as of now i cannot jump my mobo

#

with the GPU in

sand falcon
#

Why not?

hasty spoke
#

well because the PSU is working, and we're plugging in each component one by one to trouble shoot them

#

but we wont know if my CPU, GPU, Ram, or anything else is messed up due to the fact that jumping it doesnt wrork

sand falcon
#

So once the GPU is in, the PSU doesn't spin up?

hasty spoke
#

i couldnt really hear a noise but let me double check

#

PSU fan does not turn on when i plug the GPU in

#

@sand falcon

sand falcon
#

Okay then

#

Do you have any old GPUs around?

#

Literally anything would work

hasty spoke
#

its on my computer that im currently using

#

its an old r290x

sand falcon
#

Okay

#

Are you comfortable using it for testing?

hasty spoke
#

well, comfortable? no...hehe 😅 the hassle isnt the issue because y'know, i do want the behemoth of a PC outside to work compared to this one im using

#

but my friends in the main Discord I VC on told me to take out my PSU earlier today to "mix and match" that part with my new PC

#

and im lazy as to disconnect this one and take out the GPU....tonight at least

#

I'm on the East Coast and Isaiah is coming in tomorrow

#

so I dont know if you mind me adding you...but I'd like to continue tomorrow maybe?

sand falcon
#

That's gonna be a fun time

#

I can be back tomorrow

hasty spoke
#

the fact that you, alone, taught me how to jump start my PSU and i heard that fan CLEARLY boot is a sign that makes me confident

#

however i am troubled by the possibility of a 2080ti being the faulty part 😢

#

that sh*t cost me 1k+ hahaha

sand falcon
#

How long ago did you buy it?

hasty spoke
#

almost, if not, a month now

sand falcon
#

Where from?

hasty spoke
#

Amazon + Newegg

#

the 2080ti, Amazon

sand falcon
#

Contact amazon about the possibility of a return

#

You should still be good at this point

hasty spoke
#

actually

#

no

#

i ordered it from new egg

sand falcon
#

Ah

#

Definitely contact them ASAP

#

DM @ NeweggService from this server

hasty spoke
#

so is it the GPU?

#

or shall we leave this for tomorrow?

#

i have my invoice pulled up RN

jagged ember
#

We know for sure it's not the PSU

sand falcon
#

The GPU not working is a Bad Sign

hasty spoke
#

well we dont know if its the GPU do we?

jagged ember
#

I really hope it's not the GPU, but that could be the issue

hasty spoke
#

or does the PSU fan not turning on absolutely indicate thats the issue?

sand falcon
#

It might

hasty spoke
#

alright well, tbh, ive smoked some weed

#

and im not willing to disconnect this PC now to switch in the 290x

#

because id like to play lowest graphics Mordhau, or Valorant

#

😅

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lmfaoooo

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but im so happy you guys helped me diagnose at least one part

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if it is the GPU, so be it

jagged ember
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RMA it

hasty spoke
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i feel like a multimeter would've really helped this situation

sand falcon
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Yeah

hasty spoke
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but

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like i said upon first meeting you

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i ordered a microswitch

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which serves the same purpose as a power button

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for 7 bucks on amazon

sand falcon
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Cool beans

hasty spoke
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will that serve any purpose now that we've gone through these steps?

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because the pins arent jumping

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so

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what purpose would it serve?

sand falcon
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It will serve making your computer able to boot without a screwdriver

hasty spoke
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true that 😅

sand falcon
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You said that it started when just the CPU was in?

hasty spoke
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and the mobo, yes

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i heard it feintly im pretty sure

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i can double check

jagged ember
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fans were spinning?

sand falcon
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Cool

hasty spoke
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fans were spinning, in the PSU

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not on the heatsink CPU fan

sand falcon
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Did you hook them up to the fan or pump headers?

hasty spoke
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yes

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its on the CPU_FAN header

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its a Be Quiet Dark Rock fan

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not the stock fan

stoic island
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Should've spun up

hasty spoke
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nope

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mobo doesnt jump

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at all

jagged ember
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the cooler type shouldn't be a problem yeah

hasty spoke
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yeah haha ive been saying that from the start; not to come off as stand offish i dont mean to

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but

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its EXTREMELY weird

fallow bear
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  • 2 front intake 120mm + 1 front intake 140mm
  • 1 back 120mm
  • 1 top 140mm

Do I need another top 120mm? Or is it unnecessary?

hasty spoke
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that my Corsair K70, when hooked up to the mobo

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turns on (the RGBs that is)

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but the cooler doesnt?

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its almost as if the mobo was shorted or something

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despite that

jagged ember
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The mobo should be receiving power if it can turn on your keyboard

hasty spoke
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yeah! 😦

sand falcon
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@fallow bear No

hasty spoke
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but its not jumpinmg

jagged ember
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lmao that's a lot of fans tho i think you're good @fallow bear

sand falcon
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When exactly does the keyboard light turn on?

stoic island
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Possible Mobo issue I guess

fallow bear
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Ok. No more fans.

jagged ember
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Sounds like it

stoic island
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Because CPU fan should spin up on start

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And the other fans

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And if we know PSU works

jagged ember
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the only other culprit would be the mobo

sand falcon
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Keyboard receiving power when the system is off is also interesting

jagged ember
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my pc does that too, on one USB2.0 port

sand falcon
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Oh

hasty spoke
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the keyboard recieves power after about 5-15 seconds @sand falcon

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but the PC doesnt post or show bios or anything

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its as if the back I/O recieves power but my CPU fan doesnt

sand falcon
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Which USB port is it plugged into?

hasty spoke
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the back I/O

sand falcon
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Which one

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One of them is special

jagged ember
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specifically for me, it's the Flash BIOS usb port

sand falcon
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That wouldn't be the issue, would it?

hasty spoke
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ehhh....idk? 😅 i cant identify what USB port it is...theres 1 USB 1.0 port and several USB 3.0/3.1

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/whatever it is

sand falcon
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Can you take a picture?

hasty spoke
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that would once again, require me to turn off my main PC and swap parts

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not tonight

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but tomorrow absolutely, if you could ❤️

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hehehe

sand falcon
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Okay

jagged ember
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I don't think that'd be the issue though, my PC booted just fine with stuff plugged into it

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But it's worth a test either way

hasty spoke
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theres also a switch that says "ECO" on my PSU

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that should be off, right

sand falcon
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Try it both ways

hasty spoke
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thats for electric bills and what have you

jagged ember
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yep

sand falcon
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There wouldn't be anyway it could try to flash a bios from a keyboard, would there?

jagged ember
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I doubt that's whats happening?

hasty spoke
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idk but my motherboard has a QFlash button

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i havent touched it

jagged ember
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but, try another usb port lol

sand falcon
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I doubt it too

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That would be super weird if it did

jagged ember
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that'd actually be wack if it solves the issue

hasty spoke
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if what solves the issue

jagged ember
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not having ur kb plugged into your Flash BIOS usb port

hasty spoke
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i wish i knew what a Flash Bios Usb port was lmao

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i guess thats the "primary" usb port

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because it allows you to flash bios with a usb

jagged ember
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it's commonly the usb port closest to the mobo

sand falcon
hasty spoke
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idk, i cant remember

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but possibly

sand falcon
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okay