building-and-recc-chat

[spiral zealot]

that's why you need thunderbolt

[little osprey]

Is there a diff between 2 different usb c's?

Or do all have thunderbolt

[stoic island]

hmm

[spiral zealot]

has to specifically be usb-c w/thunderbolt

[stoic island]

thought hdmi or mini hdmi works too

yea thunderbolt = speed

[spiral zealot]

if you run it through something like an m.2 adapter

because you can fake being an m.2 drive and access pci lanes that way

[little osprey]

So you would need dual m.2 ports, right?

[spiral zealot]

but in a laptop that usually means trying to run the machine with the bottom case removed lol

[stoic island]

basically
don't

[little osprey]

Hmm

[spiral zealot]

yeah if you want to run an egpu you'll have to start with a higher budget for the laptop to start usually

[little osprey]

Ah yeah. Im thinking about possibly a cheaper (Like the Lenovo) laptop for like going to friends houses n such, but have a micro itx for the more hardcore gaming?

Something like a r7 and a 1060 or better

[spiral zealot]

that's what i do, i have my main machine for actual gaming

and my lenovo is for work/light gaming when we used to be able to travel lol

[little osprey]

Yeah, I travel alot (Drive about 120+ miles a day) so something that could do light/moderate gaming on the go would be nice

Would micro itx differ in price compared to a regular atx?

[spiral zealot]

so there's atx, micro-atx, and then itx or mini-itx as i've seen it. atx/micro-atx are mostly interchangeable, itx is the really tiny form factor usually

[little osprey]

Yeah the really small one is what I was looking at

[spiral zealot]

and sometimes you can use atx-sized stuff in an itx build, but depending on the case, you'll have to do things like use a low height cpu cooler, or pci-e riser for the gpu, or sfx form factor PSU, etc

i use an itx case, but it's on the large side, so it can take a normal PSU

and normal CPU cooler

but the motherboard has to be itx

[stoic island]

mATX can do fine

[little osprey]

I saw one, they put the mobo in the middle and used a gpu extender cable and put the gpu on the opposite side

of the cpu cooler

[deep skiff]

itx is more expensive

yeah those are called sandwich cases where the gpu is back to back with the motherboard

[stoic island]

I like the H100

smol-ish but still gives space

and has handle

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TMRGV6D

[spiral zealot]

i use a thermaltake core V1, it's a cube, and it can handle normal PSU/coolers, but has a limit on GPU length

[deep skiff]

that has bad cooling tho

[stoic island]

which one

[deep skiff]

h100

[stoic island]

it does?

[deep skiff]

sg13 or something id prefer

[stoic island]

I wouldn't think a single 200mm fan gives bad cooling

it's the same front mesh as on the H500

and the H500 has pretty good thermals

[little osprey]

Someone had made a 3d printed mini itx, the cpu cooler fan stuck out the side just barely

[white osprey]

ok weeb

last question

hopefully

[little osprey]

Wanted to make my own pc/case for quite some time

[sullen spoke]

haha weeb

[white osprey]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-black-silver/6361328.p?skuId=6361328

or

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-black-silver/6362412.p?skuId=6362412

[deep skiff]

its not really great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLWjavJpxW0

[white osprey]

@stoic island

[stoic island]

first one

[white osprey]

ty

[little osprey]

Ig I could send in dms but the case is tiny

(Wont let me send link to yt vid)

[deep skiff]

which case? i can send send it for u

[little osprey]

Its a 3d printed one someone had made

[deep skiff]

o nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yEgioZjgtE

[little osprey]

Cool design imo, wanted to replicate it

I love how its tiny

[stoic island]

huh

[deep skiff]

i think it'd be pretty cool to design ur own case or build one of those open air ones

[stoic island]

@deep skiff would've imagined bottom would've had mesh

[little osprey]

Yeah that would be amazing lol

Lots of dog hair and dust in my house tho (Have 5 dogs)

[deep skiff]

@stoic island dunno they make funky decisions

[stoic island]

on the H100

only 2 issues is the bottom mesh and sfx power supply

[little osprey]

Hmm, seems mini itx would be easier to make a case for? and possibly build too

[stoic island]

not really xD

so far it seems harder to make itx

and build itx

[little osprey]

Huh

[stoic island]

It's small

and hard to work with

[deep skiff]

probably cheaper bc of the amount of materials but harder

[stoic island]

everything needs to fit

yea cheaper but not easy

[little osprey]

I mean, im p good at making things fit when building things, I might be able to but I probably want something relativly easy to build

Would I have to do anything special other than make mounts for the components when building a csae?

Case*

[deep skiff]

depends on what u wanna put in it

[stoic island]

if you want to make a case

just make sure you know what you're putting in it

and the dimensions of everything

and fan mounts

and access to mesh

or just leave it open

[deep skiff]

its like building a keyboard way harder and more expensive but u can tailor it to ur needs

[little osprey]

Yeah, hmm

Something budget and good performance

[deep skiff]

u could probably see if somebody has a design you could copy

[little osprey]

Maybe a r5, 1050 or rx560, 16gb ram?

Yeah im looking right now

Might have more risk of pulling it off the desk tho with the cables, because of how light it is?

Actually, my dad has a full fab shop so maybe I could have a metal one made up similar to the wooden one? Im seeing alot of those

[stoic island]

I mean

you could try but

just make sure you know the dimensions of everything before trying to make the case and the mounting holes

[little osprey]

Yeah

Or an acrylic cube

[deep skiff]

yeah i'd suggest making a mock up in cad or something like that

[little osprey]

Another thing that a better laptop would be usefull for

Right now I can barely run autocad 2016 😂

[deep skiff]

lol ouch

[little osprey]

Think im going to get that Lenovo, will the ram sticks w/ like the metal or plastic around them like patriot or corsair fit, or only the non fancy ones?

[stoic island]

??

in a laptop

only sodimm modules fit

240pin ddr4

[deep skiff]

yea sodimms are usually just the bare pcb without a shroud

[stoic island]

ye

because in the laptop its just flat

[little osprey]

Ah, alr

[deep skiff]

@stoic island wtf

[stoic island]

lol yes rgb inside

this is DDR2 sodimm, dimm, DDR3 sodimm, dimm

[little osprey]

Looks like im only seeing 260 pin ones

[stoic island]

couldn't find a ddr4 pic

240pin 260pin I forgot which one it was for ddr4 sodimm

[deep skiff]

sodimm should just be called tall boi ram

[little osprey]

Lmaoo

[stoic island]

thin boi ram

[little osprey]

Im seeing Crucial 8gb ddr4 and G.skill ripjaw

Both 260 pin

[deep skiff]

260 pin is probably ddr4

[little osprey]

Holy yikes

I looked at lenovo 8gb sodimm ones

131$ for 8gb ddr4

yeaa nothx

[little osprey]

This one will work?
https://www.newegg.com/crucial-8gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820156163?item=N82E16820156163&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-memory+(notebook+memory)-_-N82E16820156163&gclid=CjwKCAjwjLD4BRAiEiwAg5NBFopHyU_D0CUnCdbmi_T7q2E5sOa9JwdKLWU-y2SRtVjp85dyvSpcZRoCBqUQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[stoic island]

for laptop ye

should

[little osprey]

Epic

[stoic island]

unless your laptop has soldered ram

[little osprey]

358 for laptop, 33 for extra ram

Nope, one soldered 4gb and one slot

Thats what someone said anyways, 1 sec

[deep skiff]

yea id double check

[little osprey]

@little osprey the ideapad has dual channel, it just has 4GB soldered to the board and a single slot with another 4GB stick in it

[candid thorn]

Hello I’m a first time pc builder and have some knowledge I just don’t know if it’s worth it in the long run any advice

[little osprey]

Well. damnit.

What the heck Lenovo

Wait, could that mean that it only supports up to 8gb in the slot, not including the 4gb soldered on?

[little osprey]

Hello, (first post here, asked in other places but there didnt seem to be an exact answer) what motherboard would be recommend for an NZXT H1 w/ Ryzen 5 3600, RTX 2060 (or next gen gpus soon), and corsair vengance ram
Also I am confused a the website for the H1 BLD customization I don't think has correct info. It says the AsRock X570 and MSI B450I both have USB 3.2 gen 2 ports when the manual for the boards doesnt even mention that. I want to be able to use the front IO USB type C and I'm unsure if the MSI B450I (being an old board) will alow it

[spiral zealot]

@little osprey Yeah, I think it means the slot only supports up to 8GB, not including the soldered 4GB.

[little osprey]

Ooo epic

I might have to call n ask, but few mins would be worth finding out. Sweet, ty

[spiral zealot]

everything I see online says that model can handle 12GB total

so you should be able to throw a single 8GB stick in

[little osprey]

Alright, tysm

[open gazelle]

I have a major problem for a friend. This is their part list.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7wKydm

These are some of the major issues plaguing their machine:

-When it's been running for more than hour, everything on the computer slows down to the point where I can't do anything, even shut it off.
-If I don't shut it off, both of my monitors turn black, and I can still hear audio but it's super slowed down audio and laggy. Then I usually just shut it off and restart it manually.
Restarting their machine fixes the issue, but it happens EVERY time

I have no idea what to do at this point

[little leaf]

@open gazelle GPU?

[open gazelle]

1660 Super

[spiral zealot]

that almost sounds like a memory leak issue or something

the system is just slowly running out of resources

[open gazelle]

I've been told memory leak is possible, but I made them do a memory diagnostic and it didn't come up with anything

[spiral zealot]

as a first quick diagnostic step, keep task manager open while the machine is idling and make sure that you aren't just running out of system memory

you'll see if memory usage is steadily climbing or not

it might not be a bad stick of ram, it could be a program or windows process or something that's going out of control

[open gazelle]

So if memory is leaking, usage would skyrocket yeah?

[spiral zealot]

it might not skyrocket but you should see it eventually max out

if it's happening over the course of an hour, it probably isn't super fast

[little osprey]

Do I need a ryzen 7 for gaming?

if I have a 1k budget abt

no

ryzen 5 3600 is fine

ok

wait I aint allowed 2 send pcpartpicker website links?

ok

:l

idk lol, just joined this server

thought I'd get answer :/

[open gazelle]

@spiral zealot So then what could it be? Mb or memory?

[spiral zealot]

You have to level up a little before being able to post links @little osprey

[little osprey]

@spiral zealot ):

Anyone recommend good gpu’s for a 1k build?

[spiral zealot]

@open gazelle i think it's a software issue, but if it was hardware, i'd test the RAM first, even if diagnostics don't pick anything up, you can test by just booting with a single stick at a time and see what happens

[next kestrel]

2070 super or 2060 super

depending on what you want

or 5700xt

[spiral zealot]

@little osprey you can paste the end of the URL, i'll pull it up and paste the link for you

[little osprey]

Uh rn I’m on my phone I don’t have it here

[spiral zealot]

kk

rule 9: no sales

[little osprey]

Brooo

Get roasted

@spiral zealot how do I become a golden?

[spiral zealot]

you gain xp as you chat and level up over time, just need to get to regular (lvl3) to be able to send links and stuff

[potent prairie]

Happens before you know it :)

[spiral zealot]

although i won mine in a trivia contest lol

but normally yes, it doesn't take long to level up a bit

[little osprey]

@spiral zealot Turns out, if I read this right, you can upgrade the 330s to 20gb ram. Read thru and they said that 16gb only works for those who dont have soldered ram, but this person bought a 16gb stick and installed it, and it works, so im wondering if I should do the same

This is where I saw that (With screenshots of it working)
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-IdeaPad-1xx-3xx-5xx-7xx/Lenovo-Ideapad-330-15IKB-RAM-upgrade/td-p/4576021

[spiral zealot]

i mean, if it works, it sounds like it would be worth it imo

[little osprey]

And on crucials website, for the "Lenovo 330s AMD" it shows a 16gb 2666 stick and that itll work? Probs going to upgrade to a 2.5 ssd too, 512gb or 1tb one from them aswell

[spiral zealot]

yeah, it'll just clock down to 2400

that's what I did on my A485, it's a set of 2x8GB 2666 sticks, they just run at 2400

[little osprey]

Yeah, a 8gb stick is 33$ and a 16gig stick is almost 70$, wonder if its worth the extra 8gb

[spiral zealot]

considering it's shared ram w/the igpu, i would say yes

that's why I went straight to 16GB in mine

[little osprey]

More ram would help the igpu run faster?

[spiral zealot]

i have 1.1gb always reserved for the GPU and it will pull more when it needs it

[barren juniper]

What would a good price for a used never overclocked 2600x be in secondary market?

[spiral zealot]

it just means that you won't have to worry about the GPU and the rest of the system competing for resources

[little osprey]

Ah, good point

[next kestrel]

d u a l c h a n n e l

[little osprey]

Better for multitasking too maybe?

[next kestrel]

v r o o m

[little osprey]

Lol

[spiral zealot]

@barren juniper looking at sold listings on eBay, $130-150ish?

[next kestrel]

:0

[barren juniper]

Thank you @spiral zealot

[next kestrel]

mc used to sell them for 100

new

thats where i got mine

[spiral zealot]

yeah that was in the before times lol

[barren juniper]

yup, a lot of people don't live near MC though, only in 16 states I believe

[spiral zealot]

in the golden age of supply and demand

[little osprey]

Huh so they do have a 2400 16gb one and its 8$ cheaper

[next kestrel]

u should find some green basic samsung bdie ram

like just from samsung

and OC that a bit

[little osprey]

62$ for a 16 gig stick and a 500gb ssd is about 70$

[next kestrel]

much better mileage imo

[little osprey]

bdie?

[next kestrel]

thats the chip type

b-die ram overclocks much better

i got a 2133 mhz rated stick oc'd upto 3600

but i clocked down to 3200 for lower voltage

[little osprey]

You can still oc it even if the comp-

Nvm

Huh

[next kestrel]

also get a crucial p2 for your ssd

[spiral zealot]

we're talking lenovo bios here though, i don't think they have very robust memory control

[next kestrel]

500gb for 52$ with DRAM and also NVME

oh prebuilt?

[spiral zealot]

yeah

[little osprey]

Yeah

[spiral zealot]

ideapad, laptop

[little osprey]

Laptop

[spiral zealot]

ryzen mobile

[next kestrel]

so you'd need sodimms?

[little osprey]

Am broke 😂

Yeah

[next kestrel]

feelsbadman

[little osprey]

comes w/ a soldered 4gb and a 4gb in a slot

[next kestrel]

but you could just look for some on hardwareswap

[little osprey]

Maybe

[next kestrel]

RAM is safe to buy used

[little osprey]

This is assuming I dont find a amazing deal on a custom built someone doesnt want anymore

[spiral zealot]

the vega 8 is a solid igpu though, so at under $400, spending a little extra to give it a little more zing is worth it imo

[next kestrel]

because it doesnt wear down, it either completely works or doesnt

yea

replace 4GB with 8GB, sell your 4GB stick

does it have an M.2 slot open?

[little osprey]

I would love a Asus TUF A-15 but uhhh, 1200$ I dont have 😔

Dont think so

Btw ill be getting a 16gb one, someone tried it and it worked so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[next kestrel]

do you NEED 20GB of sodimm tho,,

idk

[spiral zealot]

it does, i think it comes with a 256GB m.2 drive

but i think it's m.2 2242

trying to verify

[little osprey]

Thats the only storage it has I think

[next kestrel]

the shorter ones?

[spiral zealot]

yeah

the tiny baby ones

[next kestrel]

is there space for a 2.5inch drive?

[little osprey]

yeah, 256 ssd is only storage it has

Uhh

Someone said there was? idk

They swapped out a hhd so I would thing since this doesnt have it maybe itll be open?

[next kestrel]

if there is, get a 2.5 inch hard drive prob

[little osprey]

Yeah

was looking at a 500gb one

I have 440 on my comp rn, hhd, and its like 30% filled and I have like 20 games lol

[next kestrel]

I'd go with a 2tb 2.5 inch HDD

[little osprey]

Cant spend that 200$ 😔

[next kestrel]

not ssd

hdd

[little osprey]

OH

Ic now lol

Ssd seems to boost the ideapad a bit more tho

[next kestrel]

https://www.newegg.com/seagate-2tb-st2000lm007/p/N82E16822178872?Description=2.5 hdd&cm_re=2.5_hdd-_-22-178-872-_-Product

if you've already got a 256GB nvme i don't see the point of getting another ssd

especially on a budget

[little osprey]

Yeah true

Hmm

[spiral zealot]

yeah just keep the 256gb ssd as the boot drive and a couple of heavily used apps there

and then the 2tb for bulk storage of games etc

[next kestrel]

either that or an sshd

[little osprey]

sshd? havent seen that

[next kestrel]

https://www.newegg.com/seagate-firecuda-1tb-st1000lx015/p/N82E16822179111?Description=2.5 sshd&cm_re=2.5_sshd-_-22-179-111-_-Product&quicklink=true

its a hybrid drive

so it automatically stores the most used files onto the SSD portion i think?

[spiral zealot]

basically has an 8gb ssd built in as cache

[next kestrel]

and keeps the less used info on the HDD part

[little osprey]

Huh

[next kestrel]

basically a hard drive that gets faster the more you use it

[little osprey]

So the laptop - ~375$
Sshd - 60$?
Ram - New is 62$

[next kestrel]

you can choose between the HDD and the SSHD

if you're gonna store just games HDD should be fine

same price but 2TB

[little osprey]

Dont hhd's fail after awhile? I saw somewhere that when they get to a certain age/used they commit death

Something w/ run time then they stop working or smthn

[next kestrel]

uhh it prob wont fail

[little osprey]

Just saw that one place randomly tho, idk

[next kestrel]

and there's warranty i believe

[spiral zealot]

anything with moving parts has a finite lifetime, but it's in the thousands of hours of usage

if not tens of thousands of hours

[little osprey]

Yeah something like that

ssd has no moving parts doesnt it?

[next kestrel]

also the SSHD is a hard drive

[spiral zealot]

i have a 1.5TB drive i've been using for probably 8 years

[next kestrel]

yes

[spiral zealot]

and it's fine

[next kestrel]

but it does have a r/w lifetime as well

[spiral zealot]

and i've put tens of thousands of hours of uptime on it, i leave my PC on 24/7

[next kestrel]

also the ram

[little osprey]

Yeah same with my current comp

[next kestrel]

i would still get 8GB

idk most systems don't use that much RAM

even with an iGPU

I dont think I did anything using 10+GB of RAM

especially on a budget system

[little osprey]

From what ive seen w. friends computer, I believe the games were taking 4-7gb ram

some, not all

[next kestrel]

but then again all i do is play games and photo edit lightly

[little osprey]

Yeah, I play some lower end games like minecraft n terraria

OH

[spiral zealot]

with 8gb ram and the vega 8, it'll hold onto 1.1gb all the time

leaving you with 6.9gb (nice) for system usage

[next kestrel]

theres an extra 4GB stick

[little osprey]

I could run battlefield bad company 2 finally!

[next kestrel]

so 10.9GB (not nice)

[spiral zealot]

yeah

if you bump to 12gb

[little osprey]

I can on current comp but only on low and its laggy

Yee, w/ 20 youd have 18.9

[next kestrel]

what would u do with that lol

[spiral zealot]

everything

at once

[little osprey]

^

[next kestrel]

thats true

[little osprey]

Dedicate 16gb to minecraft and watch yt at the same time

😂

[next kestrel]

feel like on that system ram wont be a bottleneck lol

[little osprey]

Idk which would be tbh

Possibly the graphics?

[spiral zealot]

the igpu will definitely be the bottleneck, also any of the 2nd gen ryzen U series will clock slower out of the box

but they boost pretty well

mine runs at like 1.8-2ghz at idle

but boosts up to like 3.7 or something

[little osprey]

This ones a 1st gen 😞

1st gen ryzen 5 2500U

[spiral zealot]

oh right, i was thinking 2nd gen because 2500

that's what mine is, 2500U

[little osprey]

Specs say boosts up to 4ghz?

[spiral zealot]

probably single core

all core will be in the 3'd

3's

[little osprey]

Ah

[spiral zealot]

but, someone created an open source mobile equivalent of ryzen master

[little osprey]

"Up to 3.6GHz"

[spiral zealot]

which will let you increase TDP slightly, and get a little more oomph

[little osprey]

Huh

Do you use the new ryzen software? Like the gaming things

[spiral zealot]

by default, 2500U is 15W TDP, but can boost to 25W for short periods

[little osprey]

Ill most likely only oc, if I ever do, while on the charger

[spiral zealot]

but ryzen controller lets you change that, so right now I run at 25W at idle and boost to 30W

yeah, mine is plugged in all the time, so i just have it bumped up by default

[little osprey]

The other one right? that can go to 30W

[spiral zealot]

i use the radeon software that comes as part of the driver package

there's also a chipset driver with a power plan for mobile ryzen chips

that helps get the best performance

[little osprey]

Oh, about drivers, should I make it a priority to update them often?

Rn I just update them every so often, maybe check about every 3 mo and get the latest one

[spiral zealot]

I usually check maybe once a month

[little osprey]

Hmm alr

Which would be better to go after, sshd or ram?

first*

[little leaf]

Need a build for 1350 ish

Cant decide on h1 or mid tower 220t

@stoic island

[little osprey]

Really wish I had 400$ rn, I just found a asus tuf (Idk what model) w/ i5-3900h and 1650 w/ 8 gb ram

[little leaf]

I found a 8700 and 1070 for 600

[stoic island]

Sry mobile

[little leaf]

Damn

I am too

[stoic island]

Is 1:45 am

[little leaf]

Ah forgot ur est

@stoic island what about 4700x and 3070ti

[stoic island]

CT*

No idea on pricing

[little leaf]

Oh

[stoic island]

4700x could be 300$, or it could be 400$, who knows how AMD is doing their lineup

[little leaf]

Hopefully near same price

[stoic island]

3070 could be 500, or 600, or 700, who knows

[little leaf]

Idk

[little osprey]

1060 6gb for 140$, saphire nitro rx580 8gb for 140$

:((

[quaint cloud]

Buying a 2070 super, anyone got a suggestion as to which one to go for?

looking around the £500 mark

please tag me incase i don't see

[fathom gate]

@quaint cloud since I've been here (since April) there's been one and only one answer to this question from anyone who's bothered.

[digital pecan]

i’m not sure if i converted the money right, but this seems to be in your price range. It’s the one i use personally and it’s very good so far. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newegg.com/amp/msi-geforce-rtx-2070-super-rtx-2070-super-gaming-x/p/N82E16814137445

@quaint cloud

[next kestrel]

@little osprey get a GTX 970 on hwswap for 70$

almost identical performance as those two

[little osprey]

Lol i dont have a pc for one atm, but I'll look into it ty

[slender owl]

https://www.newegg.com/oloy-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/20-821-222?item=20-821-222&cm_mmc=snc-twitter-hotdeals-_-fantastech-sale-_-oloy-ram-20-821-222-_-071320

Are those any good?

[misty marsh]

hello can anyone help me I have a question

Is this motherboard https://www.newegg.com/msi-performance-gaming-x470-gaming-plus/p/N82E16813144177?Item=N82E16813144177 commpatible with this processor https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-9-3900x/p/N82E16819113103?Item=N82E16819113103

because I installed it and it didnt work

so maybe it was DOA? because I cant figure out what could be the problem

thanks

[balmy sky]

I mean, that is the correct chipset

[misty marsh]

Ok thanks

i have 850 psu

so it should be enough power right?

[slender owl]

Yes

[misty marsh]

but whats wierd is the fan comes on and the lights light up and everything

just no signal to monitor

but as soon as i put old processor in it works again

[slender owl]

Bios update

[misty marsh]

im afraid to update my bios

i flashed my bios once on a different motherboard and needed to replace it

because it froze during the process

i dont have any more return days left on my motherboard

[slender owl]

What is your old cpu?

[misty marsh]

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-3-1200/p/N82E16819113446?Item=N82E16819113446

I dont have a lot of money so

when i was putting together my computer

I purchaced the cheapest one knnowing i would upgrade later

and that time has come

[slender owl]

Did you try a cmos reset?

[misty marsh]

no i didnt think of that

how do i do that i forget lol

its been a long time sense collage

do i pull the battery out? or is there a button

[slender owl]

Battery out

[misty marsh]

Thank you so much. You all have been so helpfull today and I really appretiate the kindness. I will try all of these things and see if they work.

At least now I know where to come when I have a problem

I didn't know this discord even existed before today lol. thanks again cya!

[barren bloom]

Hmm... I'm having issues POSTing (i believe thats the term...) where my computer starts but nothing comes up on the screen.

I built the PC a couple months ago and it would do it randomly... now it seems to be permanent

Turns out the RAM i bought wasnt on my mobo's QVL

So I bought compatible RAM but still no luck...

I also didnt install the speaker originally, now I did and I'm getting a long beep and then 2 short/quicker beeps

I looked on the gigabyte FAQ and seems 1 long beep and 2 short beep：Graphic card error

But I did uninstall the card and have it in the onboard graphics and still seem to get the beeps

I have all my system specs handy for whoever can help

[barren bloom]

I'm worried the mobo might be the problem...

[next kestrel]

it probably is

most of my no-post errors have been mobo issues

[little leaf]

@misty marsh make sure the vrms will work witth that chip and not exlpolds

[magic bough]

Hi

Help.

[next kestrel]

either bad ram or bad mobo

try without ram

see if it beeps

[magic bough]

Wdym just turn it on?

And it will beep?

[next kestrel]

take out the ram and see if there is a post code beep

[barren bloom]

So turns out... ryzen 5 3600 has no integrated graphics... so my beeps may actually be my gtx 1070 crapping out.

I’m new to amd had no clue that cpu didn’t have integrated gfx

[spiral zealot]

ahh yeah, only the ryzen G/GE chips have built in graphics

[barren bloom]

Good to know!

I’ll try another slot on the mobo

If that doesn’t work I have another graphics card that I know works in another pc

I’d much rather have a dead gpu so I don’t have to reinstall windows lol

Lazy...

The gpu lights up and everything so not sure why it wouldn’t be working..

[wooden viper]

any one know if the MSI MPG X570 is any good

[still roost]

Pissedoffcustomer#5685 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[deep skiff]

kek

[ripe osprey]

top kek

[gilded kelp]

Anyone know to to fix error code iqrl not less or equal

[deft zephyr]

Hello i am looking for a build around the 1200 Dollars

[stoic island]

Need wifi?
Need monitor/periph?

[potent prairie]

What do you intend to do with it? Gaming, streaming...?

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gh747T hows this build for 1.5K

pure gaming

not for me, its to recommend to others

[potent prairie]

I would get a better ssd at that pricepoint

[little osprey]

yeah i could change that

@little osprey i would suggest maybe getting 750w over a 650w because you have a 2080 s, also in case you ever upgrade

[potent prairie]

MP34 if you have $27 more

[little osprey]

not for me

also enermax df is a steal for 109

[potent prairie]

Any reason for that particular CPU cooler?

Noctua NH-U14S is like $4 more

[deep skiff]

yea or slap a mugen 5 rev b in there for the same price

[potent prairie]

Also, a tuf gaming board is like $8 less if you like: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CjK2FT/asus-tuf-gaming-z490-plus-atx-lga1200-motherboard-tuf-gaming-z490-plus

[mortal void]

So I'm gonna need some help. Any techies or people who know about computers (and how to fix them) free for some consulting? lol

[stoic island]

anyone

[mortal void]

A Friend of MY Friend has been having problems leading ultimately to his computer to not work, it came to the conclusion that it was a faulty hardrive so they replaced it, it worked fine for 3 months but now the computer is messed up again. Then I was asked if it could be the MOBO that's the underlying issue here. I am bringing it to you guys in the hopes you can help.
(direct quote from His Friend-o, I had to clean it up to be understood properly)
"basically it would want to run as if it doesn't recognize the harddrive being there, now you can't even start it as it will run for a second before shutting itself back down, then trying to turn it back on again it just repeats"
I don't have alot of information but I would appreciate any sort of help on this.
His Dad is apparently an IT Guy but he's in Carolina or something so he's not available

[plain gorge]

can i get a 2nd opinion on something?

[viral ore]

wdym shutting down

like, is this a boot loop, or does the system completely shut off

also, this would be best if you can just get your friend in here

is he on discord?

[mortal void]

It straight doesnt turn on completely and will get stuck in a neverending loop of restart

[plain gorge]

Hey i need someones help with something

[viral ore]

have him come here himself and ask for help, its kinda hard to help people through another person

and @plain gorge , dont ask to ask, if you need help, just ask it

[mortal void]

Even if I did get my friend in here there's just gonna be the same issue of its information coming from a person who isn't the one having the issue. It'll just be more information from a messenger essentially. I'm trying to help a dude out. Its also my understanding that his friend isn't too keen when it comes to Computers like, he doesn't even know the difference between an SSD and HDD (or so I've been told) It's fine if I can't get help with it, I know it would be difficult and kinda a longshot but I thought I'd ask anyways

it's really just a difficult situation

[slow valve]

@stoic island Are you available at the moment?

[stoic island]

Bout to sleep but I got a bit

[slow valve]

Okay i don't know if you have the time to do this but i wanted to see the best performance build you can make right now, and send me the list so i can see just waht it looks like.

[stoic island]

Like best for gaming..?

Ignoring price?

[slow valve]

Yeah

ignore price

just go all out

[stoic island]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NDTmtp
That ram kit is like the craziest ram kit on the market but ignoring price :p

3800cl14

Doesn't really get better than that

[deep skiff]

not even a 3080 ti smh my head

[stoic island]

10900k because it's GAMING and ignoring price

No SLI because SLI sucks

[slow valve]

What's SLI

[deep skiff]

Super Lame Invention

[stoic island]

It's scalar line something I forgot

Interface

Something

It's just crappy dual GPU thing

Barely support for it today

[slow valve]

The crazy thing is

the other Pc list you sent me is more expensive

@stoic island

[stoic island]

Was it?

Lemme see

3950x is more expensive than 10900k at the end of the day

[slow valve]

okay lemme get it

[stoic island]

But at 16c32t no consumer chip can beat it in multi thread

[slow valve]

Do i just copy the URL and send it

[stoic island]

10900k is for pure gamin

Copy the link at the top of the weboage

[slow valve]

I Think the last one i said for it to be streaming, making videos and gaming

[stoic island]

Not url

[slow valve]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9MQz3t

[stoic island]

Yea because the pricing got messed up

Look at the 2080ti

That shouldn't be 2000$

That should be 1200$

[slow valve]

That's what was biting me

i was like wasn't it $1200

[stoic island]

But anyways 3950x would be more expensive than 10900k if you went that way

[slow valve]

would that mother board support ryzen 9?

[stoic island]

In that list yes

[slow valve]

what would the benefit be of using a ryzen 9 chip instead of a 7

[stoic island]

More threads

If you were doing heavy video editing

Like 4k raw footage or something

You would benefit from having more threads

[slow valve]

so basically stay at the 7 unless i go to 4k

[stoic island]

Uhm unless your profession is video editing for professional footage you usually don't need 32 threads

[slow valve]

okay

thanks for the info

[sharp storm]

hi completely new to this convo but a 7 should be just fine for you like he said

[slow valve]

hopefully i haven't taken up to much of your time before you sleep

[stoic island]

I go slep now
Good night

[sharp storm]

i havent made a build with an AMD processor yet but i would def be open to it

i was going to get a r7 but then i got an i7 for xmas last year and love it

[mortal void]

i was going to get a r7 but then i got an i7 for xmas last year and love it
@sharp storm Hope you got a good cooler for it lmao

[sharp storm]

i got a CM hyper 212 but was thinking of upgrading to either one of the krakens or a corsair system at some point

[mortal void]

Kraken as in Liquid cooling?

[sharp storm]

yeah

[mortal void]

nice

those are supposed to be good

[sharp storm]

ummmmm my monitor that i got for 3-$400 is currently listed on amazon for $2400

im almost certain its the same one

[mortal void]

ummmmm my monitor that i got for 3-$400 is currently listed on amazon for $2400
@sharp storm sounds about right. #CovidTax

I saw somebody trynna sell Eyebrow dye for $60

people are just trying to scam now

[sharp storm]

😳

yeah its literally the same link as on my xmas list

WHAT

throwback to when i put the wrong monitor on the list and coulda gotten the same 34" in 144hz instead of 60 for the same price

[mortal void]

damn

be like that

[sharp storm]

im still mad

[quaint spoke]

It possible to build full set up and have a pc capably of playing games in 4K

And stream and edit under 600? Or around that price

[sand falcon]

Not 4k

You shouldn't game in 4k anyway

a 1080p rig should be doable though

[little osprey]

Is that price in USD ?

[fathom gate]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y2tCx6 current pc. Collected storage so go easy on that. I want to know my weak points here and I want to know what you would upgrade if you had 500$ sitting around.

[tepid basalt]

a new gaming chair

[fathom gate]

Really? Go secret labs lol?

[tepid basalt]

well, I'd sell the rx5700xt to buy a 3090 when it's out

still, this is fine already

[fathom gate]

That has been the plan.

I was just curious if there was anything pressing I should have addressed before then.

[fathom gate]

@tepid basalt with the current leaks about 3090 having a 12 pin power connector is it likely I'll need a better psu?

[coarse coral]

3090 is likely a $2500+ gpu

[analog hearth]

likely actually a Titan but renamed because Nvidia ran out of names for the Titan

hee

[cyan wadi]

@fathom gate would change the aio

ML240 is a leaker

and psu theres currently a Enermax Revolution DF going for 109

650w but it can handle ur hardware

[supple remnant]

would i be able to stream tarkov and warzone with an NZXT starter plus computer? or do i need to buy the streamer build pc?

[cyan wadi]

i mean you can

it will work

[fathom gate]

I had the wrong psu on there mines a bit older than that and not modular with a fan. I don't think I'll grab that 650 though. I appreciate the warning on the aio but I'll risk it because that's actually a new part that was recommended to me.

[cyan wadi]

i mean

why an AIO @fathom gate

AIO's arent really effective with ryzen

just because the coldplate of the AIO doesnt actually touch the chiplets of the die

an AIRCOOLER is the way to go for ryzen

[supple remnant]

@cyan wadi in layman's terms main difference?

im decent with software nit so much the hardware

[cyan wadi]

so basically the cpu isnt that strong compared to ryzen specially for streaming

but i mean you can just use NVENC its fine

@fathom gate if u need aircooling recommendations feel free to ping me

[fathom gate]

The aio was grabbed at a price point I could afford within budget and offers far better performance than the stock fan I had before on the 3900x which doesnt really run above 40c anymore.

[cyan wadi]

how much did u get the masterleaker for

[fathom gate]

65 before tax

[cyan wadi]

i see

just pray to the PCMR gods that it wont leak

cause the ML240l us actually dangerous lmfao

if that leaks say GG to ur pc

i wish i was kidding lmao

but ive seen alot of peoples pc break cause of the ML240

[fathom gate]

I hear ya, so maybe I'll upgrade in the future but atm it's what works for me.

[cyan wadi]

i mean you coulda have just purchased a thermalright macho

or a scythe fuma 2 or something like that

and dont risk the R9 3900X with the ML240L

[fathom gate]

Bru

I'm sorry. Lol 😂

I've got the LC240E

Man I work midnights and I made that list at work..they all look so similar

[cyan wadi]

lmao i see

that aio is better than the ML240L atleast

it doesnt leak lmfao

[fathom gate]

Good to know

[little osprey]

@cyan wadi 👀

[cyan wadi]

ok ditto

[minor flare]

hello. I want to buy the i9-9900k unlocked but i don't know motherboard to buy. looking for Mid to high tier motherboard. any recommendations?

[viral ore]

why a 9900k?

any specific reasons?

[minor flare]

I have at the moment a i7 6th gen unlocked with a 1080TI 32gm ram. just wanted to upgrade because i want to start steaming content and editing.

did you hear bad thing about the i9 processors?

[viral ore]

the 10700k would be the better option

cheaper

faster

runs cooler

[spiral zealot]

if you're looking to do a full upgrade, and have the budget, I'd recommend a higher end ryzen system with something like a 2060/2070. you'll get better bang for your buck as an editing machine with ryzen imo

[viral ore]

Z490 boards are definetly more accesible at the moment

thats true as well

[minor flare]

10700k are sold out at the moment unfortunely

[viral ore]

whats your budget??

[minor flare]

700- 800

[spiral zealot]

are you looking to just upgrade cpu/motherboard?

keeping the rest of the system

[viral ore]

6th gen uses ddr4, and the 1080ti is still solid

[spiral zealot]

yeah

[minor flare]

just the cpu and motherboard. i have DD4 ram. they are the corsair vengeance 32gb rgb

[viral ore]

awesome

on 700-800, the 10900k and a solid z490 board is an option, but the 3900x and a x570 board gives you 2/4 extra cores/threads

[minor flare]

not sure if it matters or not but im also using a ultrawide monitor samsung. not sure if that factors in or not

[viral ore]

just depends on workload

[spiral zealot]

yeah i'd say 3900x, since the XT came out, the X has dropped to under $400

[viral ore]

also

what kind of editing?

[potent prairie]

Go Plus they have a deal with AC Vallhala rn

[minor flare]

video edition for upcoming youtube channel. photoshop and work as well. lots of multitaking really

[spiral zealot]

yeah, ryzen will be the better option, like sassy said, a 3900x and an X570 board will give you the edge for that kind of workload

and still probably come in below budget

[viral ore]

whats the price for the 3950x rn??

i wonder

[spiral zealot]

like $690 lol

the 3900x is $389

[viral ore]

hmmm

yeah, too much

[spiral zealot]

3900x + x570 board should run you like $550-600 depending on the board you choose

[viral ore]

oh yeah, you can get a good board with that

are you looking for an ATX board?

or is that too big for your case

[minor flare]

what board would you recommend if i go with ryzen. and what board would you recommend with intel?

ATX board

[viral ore]

well, motherboard choice isnt that big of a deal

[minor flare]

I have a Big cosair

case

[viral ore]

are you looking for a certain color or something?

[minor flare]

something with rgb

[spiral zealot]

i honestly wouldn't recommend intel at all for your particular use case. ryzen just outperforms on workstation/multitasking stuff at that price point

[viral ore]

also, 4 dimm slots for ram i assume

[minor flare]

yes

[viral ore]

what color is your case?

[spiral zealot]

hm, if you want to spend the full budget you could do something like the ASUS Strix X570-F

it runs like $300 on its own

[minor flare]

black with glass on the side. i purchase it with the PC a while about

[spiral zealot]

but it has RGB, supports up to 128GB of RAM, etc, etc

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cqsnTW/asus-rog-strix-x570-f-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-rog-strix-x570-f-gaming

[viral ore]

you cant send links yet

[minor flare]

Obsidian Series™ 750D Airflow Edition Full Tower ATX Case

[viral ore]

just remove the http://

that works too

do you want wifi?

[minor flare]

not really, i prefer ethernet

[viral ore]

ok

are there any certain things you need in a board, like front io compatibility

[minor flare]

I keep heard about sounds MSI godlike and gigabyte ultimate board and i just got so confused. lol

[viral ore]

eh, nvm i just googled the case

dont bother with those boards

they are confusing

[minor flare]

The tower does have 4 usb ports and audio ports in the front

[viral ore]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b550-extreme4/p/N82E16813157933?Item=N82E16813157933

this ones pretty cool

[spiral zealot]

yeah, just making sure you dont' need like, front panel USB-C support or anything

oh li like that one

and it's B550

[minor flare]

as long as it has one in the back im fine so i do have a Oculus rift s that i use

[spiral zealot]

that ASRock board has USB-C on the back panel, yeah

[viral ore]

oh, so you need a usb c?

[minor flare]

it would be helpful for the oculus rift s

[spiral zealot]

i think most x570/b550 boards will have one

my B450 board does

[viral ore]

im gonna be honest, literally any of these boards will do fine
https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007625 601352805 601334781 600009016 8000 4841 4814 4017 4131&Order=1

pick one you like the look of ig

[minor flare]

Cool Guys thanks. Ill place an order on newegg soon. so the type of motherboards dont really matter anymore?

[viral ore]

it really doesnt

just depends on if the board you get has what you need on it

i personally like the asrock board i sent earlier tho

[minor flare]

So i guess its just marketing and bragging rights at this point? lol

[spiral zealot]

with the 4000 series ryzen chips on the horizon, a B550 board might not be a bad idea, since it will be the one chipset guaranteed to support them

[viral ore]

once you get over 200 dollars

yes

[minor flare]

I have an MSI motherboard at this moment and its great.

[spiral zealot]

my last couple of systems have been ASUS and ASRock boards, and they've been great

[viral ore]

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-9-3900x/p/N82E16819113103

of course

this cpu as well

[spiral zealot]

my ASUS board only died because my ancient PSU finally tanked and took the board out with it

[minor flare]

lol sorry to hear that.

[spiral zealot]

eh, it finally motivated me to move to ryzen lol

[weak ruin]

sup, what do you recommend and why?
rx 5700xt or 2060 super? only for FullHD
cpu ryzen 5 3600

[wooden viper]

2060 super gotta have that crisp RTX

[azure kite]

Hi, I have 3 questions.

First question, when will ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4S AM4 AMD X570 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard be in stock

Second question, I am from Saudi Arabia when I go to checkout It says you need to add Tax ID but I don't have one and it says skip this step if I skip it is there any consequences I will get ?

Last questions.

Do these pc parts have Guarantee ?

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor

Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML120L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB DDR4 3200 MHz 2 x 8

Kingston A400 240 GB SSD 2.5" Solid State Drive
Kingston Q500 240 GB SSD 2.5" Solid State Drive

Seagate Barracuda Compute 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card

CORSAIR VS Series VS550, 550W, 80 PLUS White Certified Power Supply

[cursive wharf]

x570 is a waste given the budget, AIO is a waste of money, SSDs are meh, dont get RGB RAM with that budget, 2tb HDDs re usually barely more then 1tb, PSU is meh

Tax ID is a legal issue which tech support people here usually wont know about btw

[vital warren]

id pick a tomahawk max or a b450-f personally

but i’m no expert so don’t listen to me

[cinder wedge]

Is a 500w EV3A powerful enough to support a RTX 2070 Super

[viral ore]

depends on the psu

there are many 500w evga psus

[cinder wedge]

How do I know what psu it is

Sorry, this is my first build

[deep skiff]

whats the name? usually they're like g3 or w1

[cinder wedge]

So would it be powerful enough to power a RTX 2070 Super?

[vital warren]

i think the recommended power for a 2070 super is 550w?

[cinder wedge]

Yeah it is

I just googled it

How bad of a difference wound it be

Because I already have both on hand :/

[vital warren]

i'm no expert but i'd go for whatever has more wattage

[silk estuary]

i can take that 2070 off your hands if you want

Lmao

[cinder wedge]

No thanks

Is it possible to do returns on Newegg so I can get a 600w

I haven’t even opened the plastic wrap so

[sudden turret]

send @fresh garden a message

[azure kite]

Can I checkout without Tax ID

[little osprey]

I'm replacing an AMD with another one, Do i need to do specific things before i do that?

[azure kite]

And is there guarantee in pc pecs

[spiral zealot]

@azure kite that is a question for official customer service, send @fresh garden a message, or contact them via email. most of us here aren't official employees

[cinder wedge]

Okay, I sent them message. Hopefully I can return it.

[viral ore]

you can run a 2070s off of a 500w psu

but whats the cpu

[cinder wedge]

@viral ore the cpu is a ryzen 5

Sorry for such a long response I was soaking

Also Newegg service hasn’t gotten back to me

[viral ore]

Lol

Nice

Yeah, a 500w psu is enough

550w is a typical psu wattage tho

There's very few decent psus under 550w, so 550w is typically the minimum

[cinder wedge]

Oh okay, so I should upgrade?

[viral ore]

Well, the psu you have now is fine

Soooo, nah

[cinder wedge]

Oh okay, if I can upgrade it though and it not take awhile I might still do it

[viral ore]

You want to get a better psu, not necessarily a higher wattage one

The BR is a mediocre psu

[cinder wedge]

Oh okay, so same company but like gold

I’m guessing it’s like medals

[viral ore]

Lol, not really

[cinder wedge]

Oh okay, what’s the one better then bronze

[viral ore]

The way we figure out what psus are good and bad actually requires the psu to be tested, because companies that make psus aren't obligated to release the kinds of info we are after. So we base quality sheerly off of professional product reviewers

[cinder wedge]

Oh, well how do I test it?

[viral ore]

Basically, everything about PSUs is a sales pitch

Well, the reviewers test them for us

And they compiled them all into a tier list

[cinder wedge]

Oh okay

[viral ore]

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

Tada

[cinder wedge]

So I have no idea what any of the headers mean

[viral ore]

So this is how we select proper PSUs, because the companies that sell these are scumbags, basically

Yeah, I'm just explaining it to you so you understand, If you don't want the EVGA BR, I was just gonna find one in stock for you anyway

[cinder wedge]

Oh okay yeah, so the PSU only relies on the graphics card and the CPU?

Like the quality I mean

[viral ore]

The psu relies on nothing, everything relies on the psu

[cinder wedge]

I mean like, to get a good psu, the amount of quality it needs to be relies on the CPU and the graphics card

[viral ore]

Yeah, kinda

For a system like yours, I usually reccomend an A tier psu,

[cinder wedge]

Is that the best?

[viral ore]

Because the stress those components can put on the psu is alot to handle

Yes, it is

But, usually you can get away with a B or B+ tier psu just fine

[cinder wedge]

Oh okay yeah I want what’s gonna be the best

I need this PC to last because I won’t have the money to upgrade anytime soon lol

[viral ore]

so, your ok with spending like 120 on a psu, right?

PSU pricing sux rn

so thats why sticking with the BR isnt really a bad idea

[cinder wedge]

Yeah that’s fine

So would I be getting one of the best?

[viral ore]

for your needs, yes

https://www.newegg.com/fractal-design-ion-fd-psu-ionp-560p-bk-560w/p/N82E16817580021

doesnt really get better than this in the 550w range

well, it really doesnt get better than this in general, actually, unless you needed a multi-rail psu

which

you dont

soo

@cinder wedge

[cinder wedge]

Well I could go up to six if it’ll be better

@viral ore

[viral ore]

its a 10-15 day wait

its technically oos

wattage doesnt mean quality

you have the r5 3600, right?

[cinder wedge]

Oh I just meant wattage but what’s this about the r5 3600

[viral ore]

thats your cpu, right?

[cinder wedge]

Oh yeah

[viral ore]

ok cool

the 560w is plenty

[cinder wedge]

Idk where the 3600 is but yeah it’s a five

Okay great and that’s the link you sent earlier?

[viral ore]

the "ryzen 5" doesnt tell me anything

the 3600 is the important part of the model number

either way, that psu is fine

buy it before it goes out of stock

its gonna go oos real soon

[cinder wedge]

Okay, but it’s better then fine right

[viral ore]

buy in within the next few minutes

[cinder wedge]

Okay I will

[viral ore]

good

its not gonna be there tomorrow

i guarantee it

[cinder wedge]

Okay I believe it

I don’t have to worry if it’ll be too big for my case right?

[viral ore]

yeah, the psu is quite small

[digital finch]

Thinking about upgrading my CPU cooler. When I get around to it.

If I buy thermal paste for said CPU cooler upgrade could I then use that same paste for the CPU on my laptop? Is there any difference? Could it be used on the GPU for my laptop?
I have a 10 year old mac and was just curious if I need to do any maintenance.

[cinder wedge]

@viral ore I ordered it about 15 minutes ago so now all I Gotta do is return the other one

[viral ore]

awesome

[cinder wedge]

Yeah!

[near garden]

Hello?

[sand falcon]

hello

[viral ore]

hello

[near garden]

Can someone tell me any tips for my first build and is this 800$ budget build ok ?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WfDmtp

[sand falcon]

Looks decent. Check that the SSD has a dram cache and consider a cheaper motherboard and better GPU

[vital warren]

i'm getting the same case for my new build nice pick, and the tomahawk was like $20-$25 cheaper a while back but prices went up ig, should be decent alternatives if not just wait a little

[cursive wharf]

mobo is sold out also overpriced for the quality, SSD is DRAMless, GPU is 1660 Non Super for a 1660 Super price, PSU is an IED, and case is to pricy for the budget. @near garden

[bold turret]

any one knows how to fix this

[sudden turret]

have you looked up that error code.

[analog hearth]

@bold turret look up the error code

[bold turret]

i have

it tells me nothing rlly

[analog hearth]

https://www.google.com/search?q=0xc004f069&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS864US864&oq=0xc004f069&aqs=chrome..69i57.4235j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

I find that highly debatable

[clear remnant]

Can someone help me with building the best Ryzen pc I can get for $1300?

[bold turret]

@clear remnant just buy it from ryzen it self

[potent prairie]

What lol

[bold turret]

if u going to use all the parts from ryzen

[potent prairie]

I'm working on a build for ya @clear remnant

[clear remnant]

@potent prairie thank you

[potent prairie]

What do you intend to use it for?

Straming, gaming, cad stuff?

You need lots of storage?

[clear remnant]

Ya all 3

2 tb if possible

[potent prairie]

Do you care about rgb?

[clear remnant]

Not really, but add it if you can

[potent prairie]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wc3dk6
I think this is a decent balance for you

[arctic jungle]

it's not 1300...

[potent prairie]

Ok, whoops

I thought 1500 for some reason

Gimme a min lol

[clear remnant]

Yep

[arctic jungle]

@potent prairie j knock the 2070s down to 2060s, and get an aio that's cheaper

wait lemme do it

@clear remnant whar res/fps u gaming at?

[analog hearth]

whar

[clear remnant]

Nothing yet, I’m starting from completely scratch

[arctic jungle]

and cheaper case @potent prairie

[potent prairie]

Yh, that'd do it 🙂

[arctic jungle]

also no need for 650w psu

almost done

[clear remnant]

Thanks guys

[arctic jungle]

it's 10$ overbudget but that's fine right?

@clear remnant

[clear remnant]

Ya that’s good

[arctic jungle]

actually nvm

it's in budget 🙂

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ymdg6R

@clear remnant

comments, questions, concerns

[potent prairie]

eck, gigabyte lol

[arctic jungle]

what's wrong with gigabyte?

[analog hearth]

I thought Gigabyte got better

[arctic jungle]

yea gigabyte is gucci

good coolers, gpus, and even mobos

[analog hearth]

a lot aren't though

ehhh debatable

some are a hit some are a miss

[arctic jungle]

aorus is nice

LMAO neweggs banner is gigabyte

[clear remnant]

Sorry, but I forgot to mention something

[potent prairie]

I was not a fan of the designare board I tried from them

[arctic jungle]

yea?

[clear remnant]

I need it to be WiFi compatible cause I’m not sure if I can use Ethernet yet

[arctic jungle]

ko

I can do that

one sec

[potent prairie]

I wouldn't do the p1 tho

[arctic jungle]

@clear remnant what's the internet speed?

also what type of internet

[potent prairie]

Get a smaller 500gb mp34

It has TLC and better r/w

[arctic jungle]

mhm

[clear remnant]

250 gb down

[arctic jungle]

k

wifi 5 or 6?

[clear remnant]

I’m pretty sure it’s 5

[arctic jungle]

k I found a good deal on a wifi 6, but dont worry bc its backwards compatible

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pgXdk6

[clear remnant]

Okay good

Thanks

[potent prairie]

I'd still cash out another $40 for a tuf gaming board if I were you, over that cheap MATX one

[clear remnant]

Which tuf specifically?

[potent prairie]

sorry, $30

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pvYLrH/asus-tuf-b450-plus-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-plus-gaming

[clear remnant]

Thanks you

Thank**

[arctic jungle]

oo

but gigabyte boards are so good

well

the b550 ones

[potent prairie]

I'd highly doubt that that bottom of the line matx one is any good, but that's just me

[arctic jungle]

understandable, but they're pretty gr8 for the price- I was skeptical too till I did some mild oc for a customer

[potent prairie]

Gigabtye in general or that board?

[arctic jungle]

that board

in particular

[potent prairie]

Well, I haven't used it myself, so if he wants to get it go ahead 🙂

[clear remnant]

I don’t know what to go with lol

[potent prairie]

Well, this might be a better option than both

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/43BTwP/gigabyte-b450-aorus-pro-wifi-rev-10-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-aorus-pro-wifi-rev-10

Has wifi built in so you wouldn't need a $50 adapter

[arctic jungle]

oh yea thats a good find

[clear remnant]

Is getting used parts okay, cause that one is either out of stock or used

[arctic jungle]

I was gonna do that but I assumed that bc of the mobo shortage it wasn't gonna b avalible @potent prairie

@clear remnant depends

I wouldn't do stuff like used mobo, cpu, etc

[potent prairie]

The second buying option is on preorder, if you don't mind waiting a few days

[arctic jungle]

bc those things are volatile

[potent prairie]

I would say go used if you can find a deal

Be careful with mobos and psus tho

[clear remnant]

Ya, I can preorder it, on what tho

[arctic jungle]

go ahead for cases, case fans, MAYBE gpu if it's a good deal, def no psu, def no mobo, def no cpu

[potent prairie]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1543524-REG/gigabyte_b450_aorus_pro_wifi.html

If you can get open box deals on those it can be worth it

[arctic jungle]

ur budget is high enough that u should get new parts, but stay away from risky used stuff

open box is gr8 option

yea

[potent prairie]

I disagree personally, I saved like $2k on my build by going used/open box for almost everything

[arctic jungle]

oh wow that's awesome

[potent prairie]

If you have the time to go bargain hunting it can save you a ton

[arctic jungle]

wish I had that mindset lmao

[clear remnant]

It’s kinda hard to find open box online tho. For me at least maybe I’m just not looking hard enough lol

[arctic jungle]

would have saved, well, all my savings

[potent prairie]

Amazon Warehouse deals is a great place to look

[arctic jungle]

ebay is gr8 too for open box

[potent prairie]

eBay is rarer these days with pricejacking

[arctic jungle]

^