#building-and-recc-chat

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white osprey
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id rather go intel

sand falcon
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It's cheaper, that's the big thing

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Do you need wifi?

white osprey
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nope

sand falcon
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There ya go

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Much more power

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Also 100 or so cheaper

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What do you think?

white osprey
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that one u linked me cost more lol

sand falcon
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It's 1359, yours was 1463

white osprey
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u using US dollar?

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or r we not seeing the same thing

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Base Total: $1279.41
Shipping: $8.99
Total: $1288.40

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1st one

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Base Total: $1290.81
Shipping: $8.99
Total: $1299.80

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2nd one

sand falcon
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The price for the PSU and GPU are off

stoic island
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bb

sand falcon
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They're out of stock at the place pcpp is pulling the price from

white osprey
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any downisde of going ryzen

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amd

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?

sand falcon
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Downside is you get a 2080 super instead of a 2070 super

viral ore
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less frames in certain games

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but, not by much

white osprey
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bottleneck?

sand falcon
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No

white osprey
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cheap mobo is fine ?

viral ore
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bottleneck has nothing to do with brand lmao

sand falcon
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The frame difference is when the GPU is the same

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In this case, the intel system has a 2070 super and the amd system has a 2080 super, so amd will slaughter intel

white osprey
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so where do i get psu from

sand falcon
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The mobo should be fine. You can get a better one if you want, but the 3600 doesn't need it

white osprey
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sense u said the price was wrong

sand falcon
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Right now the cheapest price for it is from amazon

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I'll look if there's a similar PSU for cheaper

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Will you be overclocking the GPU?

white osprey
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no

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well

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maybe if i knew how to

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dont wanna mess with it

sand falcon
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Cool. I found one

white osprey
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that one cost more then the last one

sand falcon
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Crap, it's out of stock too

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The other one costs $155

white osprey
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could wait a bit longer

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any time on when it comes back in stock?

sand falcon
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No clue

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It just came back in stock about a week or so ago, and it's gone again

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Not the best PSU, but it's cheap

white osprey
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u said earlier the mobo should be fine

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what could go wrong ?

sand falcon
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Yup

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It could crack in half if you sit on it

white osprey
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whats up with the bios warning

sand falcon
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Not an issue

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When ryzen 3000 first came out, not all motherboards supported it out of the box. They've almost all added support now though

white osprey
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so once i build everything

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just plug it in

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and itll work fine?

sand falcon
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With the usual caveats, yes

white osprey
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whats the usual caveats

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ive built a pc once

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was babied the whole way through

sand falcon
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Basically that you build it right and don't mess it up

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If you can plug things together, the system will work

toxic wind
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yoo

stoic island
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Usual caveats being like : If you don't plug in the CPU 8 pin, it ain't booting

toxic wind
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could someone help me out w a pc upgrade

sand falcon
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yoo stinky

stoic island
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yoo stinky

sand falcon
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Sorry, couldn't resist 🙂

viral ore
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haha, stinky

sand falcon
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Anyway, watcha got?

viral ore
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one stinky boi

white osprey
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heard someone say something about updating ryzen drivers

stoic island
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bios*

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no real need

sand falcon
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That would be the bios

toxic wind
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I would like to upgrade from a 1080p 60hz monitor to 1440p 144hz one.

I am currently running a i5-490k CPU, GTX 970, and 16gb DDR3 RAM. I would like to upgrade to a RTX 2070 Super.

I have been researching about screen res vs cpu bottlenecking but have heard so many differences of opinion. If I get a RTX 2070 super will I be alright with either my 1080p or a 1440p monitor?

stoic island
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yes

sand falcon
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Yes

viral ore
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wait

stoic island
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wait i5 490k?

toxic wind
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4906k LOL

viral ore
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haswell 49xx isnt i5

sand falcon
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cool, ok

viral ore
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orr

stoic island
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another old sounding intel chip

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uhm

viral ore
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wait

sand falcon
viral ore
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49xx is devils canyon or something like that

stoic island
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4690k?

toxic wind
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I heard that a higher res monitor is actually easier on the CPU

sand falcon
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Found it

toxic wind
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yes thats it

sand falcon
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It can be

stoic island
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but 4c4t cpu

viral ore
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ok, thats it lol

stoic island
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any game

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gonna be wack

toxic wind
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cuz my mobo is DDR3 and im using an LGA 1550 socket

viral ore
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1150

sand falcon
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Depends on the game

toxic wind
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Sorry lmao

stoic island
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Higher resolution I believe puts same load on CPU, but more load on GPU as it scales up

sand falcon
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Some games a higher resolution will force more of a load on the GPU. It depends what the engine does

viral ore
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framerate is very cpu dependant

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in most games

toxic wind
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Right now, im getting pretty good frames in any game I play wiith my gtx 970

stoic island
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try rust

toxic wind
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I have to keep my settings on medium tho, id like the higher res and refrtresh rate

sand falcon
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It'll be an upgrade, just expect to upgrade the CPU soon too

viral ore
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yo whats wrong with the ark intel site

stoic island
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Yes

viral ore
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its not working for me

toxic wind
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okay

viral ore
toxic wind
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Apprecaite it fellas

stoic island
viral ore
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are you sure?

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click around

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there are no products

sand falcon
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Worked for me

viral ore
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i cant get to the advanced search

toxic wind
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did i say 4960 I meant 4690k

stoic island
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search works

sand falcon
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I figured

viral ore
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but i dont want search

stoic island
viral ore
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i want to sort by feature

sand falcon
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feature is pointless at intel. Just buy the cpu they say is best

viral ore
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nooooo

stoic island
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be apple

viral ore
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aahhhhhh

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i cry

sand falcon
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Don't bother benching either. That's misleading

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And btw, the 4790 is better than the 10900 because ubm says so

stoic island
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lol fr?

viral ore
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lmaooooo

stoic island
viral ore
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33%??

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thats hardly any perf increase lmao

cobalt prism
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Over 6 years...

wintry kettle
stoic island
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GPU be expensive

cobalt prism
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Yeah

viral ore
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canadia

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tho

wintry kettle
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yuh

stoic island
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2060 super should be 550 cad

cobalt prism
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There are cheaper ones

stoic island
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not

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650

viral ore
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oh

buoyant flame
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Lmao that benchmark

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And thats ub too ROFLEgg

cobalt prism
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Also the memory is expensive

stoic island
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540 cad

cobalt prism
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For 16 gigs you can get a pair for 90 bucks

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Easily

stoic island
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It's 100cad for 3600cl16 kit

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I edit your list now

wintry kettle
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okay i was trying to go for a white build

stoic island
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black build

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because td500mesh white isn't in stock in canada

wintry kettle
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merci

stoic island
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you're welcome

wintry kettle
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whats the diffrence between a m.2 and a nvme ssd?

stoic island
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M.2 is the slot

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NVMe is the protocol

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the M.2 SSD in your list was using the slower SATA protocol

wintry kettle
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so the new one will be faster?

stoic island
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Yes

wintry kettle
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ahhh i see

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thanks so much

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i really appreciate it bro

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@stoic island do you think there is a better power supply instead of the one i have? in my link

stoic island
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no

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RM is a great power supply

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top of the line imo

wintry kettle
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could i get a cheaper one maybe or is that one good

wintry kettle
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okay thanks man ur way more helpful then the nzxt server

stoic island
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lel

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I don't like nzxt

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their cases don't got good airflow :PPP

next kestrel
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but they look clean

stoic island
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true

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but airflow matters moar to me

deep skiff
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okay nerd

stoic island
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okay birb

winter marsh
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hey i found a sweet looking case that should have good air flow

clever pike
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what do u think of this (it will actually be £590)

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u talking 2 me?

stoic island
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the wut?

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@little osprey what are you on about

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you going crazy?

sand falcon
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Only eight cores? And you think that's powerful?

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smh

stoic island
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@sand falcon ikr how's your 4096 core CPU treating you

sand falcon
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I upgraded. It just didn't have enough power

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ooof

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ooooooof

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You need to upgrade

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You know pentium is a really really bad cpu, right?

stoic island
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lol

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14.4bps

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bit per second

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damn

sand falcon
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That's very slow

stoic island
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I'm sorry for you

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not even B/s

sand falcon
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That's like morse code speeds

stoic island
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ikr

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like a Pentium 2 is like 500mhz iirc

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3x that

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1.5ghz

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barely scratches modern processors

spiral zealot
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got my i7-6700 system booted, switched to air cooling, and so far so good. during R20 runs, the hottest core only hits 68C, the coolest hits 59C. i'm excited to be close to finishing this thing

stoic island
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not even taking into account ipc gains

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nice

spiral zealot
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i have no comparison for scores, but their built in leaderboard has me ahead of a 6700HQ and behind a 7700K

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so that sounds right lol

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and idle temps are 29-30C

sand falcon
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Who's trying to post links?

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Language

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Hey theo, ya wanna ban this guy or no?

jagged ember
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bits per second

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now there's a unit i haven't seen in a long time

sand falcon
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I found the clip, I'd post it for you, but it's somewhat questionable

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You'd be banned for trolling and language

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There's a pretty obvious inuendo in there

jagged ember
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mm

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pg13 lol

sand falcon
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You're totally trolling

jagged ember
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context dependent

sand falcon
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How old are you?

jagged ember
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he's trolling, bob

sand falcon
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I know. I want to know how old he is

jagged ember
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i'm 95

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sand falcon
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I'll try to find one that cuts out before the innuendo for you

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It's a good clip

jagged ember
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do it anyways

sand falcon
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It's not the worst, but I was hoping to avoid it

jagged ember
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it was there for a couple of seconds

sand falcon
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You can't post links 🙂

jagged ember
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no can do

sand falcon
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I don't work in a cube

jagged ember
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weggbot does not allow it

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also we all work at home now?

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so

stoic island
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bob can u dm it to me?

sand falcon
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Yeah. I think it's good, but it is kinda off color

stoic island
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I'm just curious

jagged ember
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bob's your classic laser shark too

sand falcon
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That's not the part I was talking about 🙂

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You can't post links

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Also, no spamming

jagged ember
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lol

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someone help this man

astral ridge
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lol

sand falcon
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What do you think Mr.1111?

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It's kinda on the edge for me

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Hey @celest horizon, can you give us an opinion on whether a clip is okay?

celest horizon
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what

jagged ember
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hi forks

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we require an answer to a question

sand falcon
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I sent you the link

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Forks gave the okay Anders

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There we go

jagged ember
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nice

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we now have more knowledge of the rules

spiral zealot
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we used to watch Hackers once or twice a year at my old job, when we would do hack weeks

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also, Matt Lillard is the coolest dude, huge nerd

sand falcon
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We might have it in our storage closet

jagged ember
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the dude?

sand falcon
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We have a tv in the back of our storage closet with DVDs of all the necessary classics

jagged ember
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oh, the film

sand falcon
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I'm not sure what all we have in there

jagged ember
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check the closet for bodies sometime, yeah?

sand falcon
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There's a 2 foot box full of rubber ducks

jagged ember
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oh, nice

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who ordered that one?

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and why?

eager chasm
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Ahahaha

spiral zealot
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rubber duck debugging

sand falcon
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Exactly

winter marsh
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hiddy ho

fathom gate
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Has anyone had problems with blower style gpus more specifically the Asus turbo 2080 super ?

cursive wharf
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probably, "problems" is very unspecific

fathom gate
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Concerned about temps

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And throttling in comparison to the other versions of the card.

tepid basalt
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so you're expecting a blower 2080s not throttling?

fathom gate
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I'm asking not expecting anything.

brittle spindle
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Im getting shelves built rn

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so its on the floor temporarily

autumn wolf
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at least its not on carpet

brittle spindle
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yeah

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and I clean it out every 3 weeks

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the GPU wires are crooked bc there wasnt enough space to fit them side by side evenly

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@autumn wolf

autumn wolf
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happens

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especially when going down the bottom grommet

brittle spindle
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yep and thats why I got banned from the Build pics chat bc boblasershark argued with me about crooked cablecombs and the wires

little osprey
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hello everyone, recently i bought a laptop from newegg and it starts making weird noises since the third day i got it. Then i brought it to a repair guy and he asked me to find a new fan for it. i searched every where and couldnt find the right one. is there any experts i can discuss with here?

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plz dm me

exotic bison
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Sorry I have another question what watt for my power supply would you recommend for a Ryzen 5 3600x with a b550 motherboard and the graphic card is a RTX 2070 super

sand falcon
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Will you be overclocking?

little osprey
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If anyone planning to buy a high end Turing card... Do research before buying pls :)

exotic bison
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No mostly likely I will not

little osprey
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Hell even Facebook status from PC gamer and stuff like that know what's up and are like don't buy this lol

sand falcon
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Then you should be fine with a 650W psu

little osprey
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450w would even be fine

fast dust
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Wait 450w for a 2070 super?

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Or are we talking about something else

little osprey
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Well I'd go 550 to be safer but yeah sure

sand falcon
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If you get a really good supply and undervolt you might be fine, but no point in skimping on a PSU

fast dust
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Most 450w units only have 1x 6+2 pin connector, so, no. I wouldn’t get a 450w. 550-650 all the way.

exotic bison
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Ok then I will look into a 550W or 650W thanks!!

sand falcon
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np

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Make sure it's a good PSU and won't blow up on you

little osprey
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Those are all sold out :p

fast dust
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@exotic bison in the pins of this channel there’s a power supply tier list. Try to shoot for tier B+ or better. Tier B minimum. Don’t get tier C or lower. :)

sand falcon
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There are some still available

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Quite a few actually

exotic bison
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Awesome thanks so much!! @fast dust

fast dust
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Fs

covert shale
fast dust
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It’s not for no reason

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Rgb gives you better performance

covert shale
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lol

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coulda got 3600 ram for the same price lol

little leaf
slow valve
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I want to try and build a high end Pc using a 2080ti and a Ryzen cpu at least, what are good parts to make this a beast of a rig? Also, i don't care for rgb so if it has rgb or not it's fine

little leaf
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budget?

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and purpose?

slow valve
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$2500-$3000
High end Gaming and streaming

little leaf
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you could go intel

slow valve
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I'm not a big fan of intel, since I've used Ryzen for almost all my builds

little leaf
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So there is no way you will go intel?

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since you going 3k build for gaming

visual crow
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its never to late 😭

slow valve
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I don't plan on using intel

little leaf
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Well you won't be getting the best gaming experience

slow valve
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I'm not going for 4k also

little leaf
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wdym?

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cpu is used more at lower res

slow valve
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hmmm

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okay

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i don't know much on computer building specs so this is new to me

little leaf
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Do you want to do a custom loop?

slow valve
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But if you think intel is better can you send me a list with intel and a list with Ryzen

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Imma probably air cool it since it's better than water cooling

little leaf
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Depends

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air cooling more noise

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looks worse

slow valve
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I'm still lenient on the cooling so either is fine

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and looks don't matter much to me, performance is what i want

little leaf
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I just want to know if your comfortable doing a custom loop

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oh ok

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you don't care about looks ok

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thats a firts

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first

slow valve
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is custom loops mean custom water cooling where you have to do it yourself

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I mean why do looks matter when you want to play a game or edit or stream, when your just gonna look at the screen and not the computer

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But send me a list of a build with intel and one with Ryzen and I'll check them both out

little leaf
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just saying having looks couldn't hurt

slow valve
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Yeah i know but performance come's first to me, so if it looks good yet performance is the first priority then that's fine

little leaf
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Sorry Have to go do something can't make the list rn

vestal cove
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So what’s your question?

slow valve
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It's okay your irl life is more important

vestal cove
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Need help cleaning your tempered glass?

slow valve
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yes it has a really bad stain on it @vestal cove

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just contact me when you get back on @little leaf

vestal cove
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Hmm

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I would probably do a liquid cooled system

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Not air

spiral zealot
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@slow valve are you gonna be doing any workstation style stuff at all? rendering, etc? ryzen + nvidia GPU will be the best in that situation, otherwise intel is best for pure gaming FPS numbers. ryzen is still my recommendation just for price vs performance though.

vestal cove
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He said gaming and streaming

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I’m pretty sure he can fit a intel cpu in that budget

slow valve
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I might make videos in the future

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but I'm pretty new to the world of pc building and have little idea of what the specs should be and the components

chrome coyote
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nyone know a fix for this my friend is having problems with his ram. its always saying 4gb uasble even when hes not got anything open. hes just formated recently so it cant be a virus

spiral zealot
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@chrome coyote assuming he has more than 4GB installed, and it's across multiple sticks of ram in his system, try just booting with a single stick at a time, and test each one. one might be going bad

chrome coyote
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he has 8gb

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and its 1 stick

spiral zealot
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in that case, there are settings in both the bios and windows that can end up reserving memory for hardware usage (like integrated graphics, etc), something might have gotten reset there and it's holding half his ram when it doesn't need to

chrome coyote
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whats the settings called

spiral zealot
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if you go into the boot options within windows (click start, type in 'msconfig' hit enter and click the "Boot" tab), there is an advanced options menu that contains a 'maximum memory' option. that should be unchecked. If it's checked and set to '0', that could be causing the issue

quaint cloud
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anyone got a suggestion for a motherboard to go with a 2070s and a 3700x?

chrome coyote
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he said hes alerady tried that so i dont think its windows reserve

spiral zealot
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do you know what kind of motherboard he has?

chrome coyote
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no he has a prebuild

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which probably makes the whole thing worse

spiral zealot
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what kind of prebuilt? he can probably try and find a manual that outlines the BIOS settings, or if he's comfortable just booting into the BIOS himself, to see if there's anything that addresses memory settings

chrome coyote
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the brand of prebuild it awd it

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i can give the link to the one he has

spiral zealot
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sure

chrome coyote
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it says 2 dimms so i will have to check with my friend to see

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he does have 2 4gb sticks

spiral zealot
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is windows seeing a full 8GB but saying only 4 is usable? or only seeing 4GB total

chrome coyote
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seing 8gb but 4gb usable

spiral zealot
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ok, so it's not a bad stick. it's definitely a system setting of some kind.

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if he goes into his bios, have him go to Advanced > Chipset > and check that Primary Graphics Controller is set to GFX0 (assuming he has the GTX1060 in the listing on the website), set UMA Frame Buffer Size to something like 64MB, and Frame Buffer Location to 'Above 4G'.

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that's just making sure that the system isn't trying to set aside any memory for an integrated GPU that doesn't exist

chrome coyote
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hes got a 1050ti 4gb

spiral zealot
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either way, it's a discrete GPU, not an integrated one

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so you want to make sure that the system isn't holding any memory aside for something that isn't actually there

little osprey
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Can someone reccomend a case that includes a PSU and preferably also an aio

deep skiff
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nzxt h1

little osprey
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Can you send a link

deep skiff
little osprey
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Yeah that's the problem

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I need one that's in stock

deep skiff
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:v dunno if any have an aio+psu

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usually aios arent included, psus are decently common in some brands

little osprey
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Psu at lease

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Aio is liked but not required

chrome coyote
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hes went into his bios and changed the required settings and it hasent changed

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@spiral zealot

spiral zealot
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hmm. since he does have 2 sticks, i would still recommend trying to boot one stick at a time and see what happens

upper fable
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@rapid oak its a Cougar conquer case that i custom painted

rapid oak
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oh nice looks great

upper fable
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thanks! I figured i would try

uneven sparrow
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So like
-Ryzen 5 3600 (CPU)
-GTX 1660 Super (GPU) MSI
-16gb DDR4 3200mHz (RAM) Corsair
-Gigabyte X570 Gaming X (MOBO)
-650W 80+ Gold (PSU) Corsair
-NZXT H510 Elite (CASE)

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Opinions and suggestions?

desert gulch
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What latency is your ram?

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It should say cl something. Cl means latency

stoic island
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Use pcpp

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@uneven sparrow what's overall budget?

deep skiff
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also h510 elite hella expensive u could get a o11 dynamic or something if u want the rgb

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u pay like $70 over the h510 for a glass front panel and rgb fans

stoic island
deep skiff
stoic island
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I dunno

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I just didn't like the shroud on that one

deep skiff
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shush

stoic island
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There's a reason I didn't pick cheapest option :P

deep skiff
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i am techie you are not my list is superior

stoic island
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I didn't liek it

little leaf
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1k for only 1660

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?

stoic island
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I'm legend you're not bow to me

deep skiff
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okay the 3300x is like 250 rn

stoic island
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@little leaf it was built around what they sent

little leaf
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Au

stoic island
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and we don't have a budget

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so

little leaf
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Ah

deep skiff
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the 3600 is the cheapest decent option

stoic island
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we'll reallocate budget towards GPU and such when we get responce

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prob swap to b550

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maybe swap to like a focus g

deep skiff
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a320 for bonus budget points

little leaf
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Or b450

stoic island
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there were ~110$ b550 boards so I'm not too worried

deep skiff
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ya u could slap a 5700 in there probably

little leaf
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Or 5700xt

stoic island
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depends on budget yaknow

velvet rock
stoic island
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what's with the current choices?

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@velvet rock what's overall budget

velvet rock
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those are things i have

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and im trying to keep it about a grand

stoic island
velvet rock
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Unfortunalty i already have everything on that list

stoic island
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Aw damn

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What do you have

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Please don't say ram or CPU

velvet rock
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everything on that list

stoic island
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Damn

slow valve
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@little leaf Are you back yet?

stoic island
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Grab a 5700xt if you can

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And a RM(x) 650w PSU if it's in stock

velvet rock
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ill look into it thank you

little leaf
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Yes sorry

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@slow valve just adk mr111

fathom gate
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Ew mang you can get a ryzen 7 3800x and AC Valhalla for the price he paid for that r5 3600 almost that's gross.

stoic island
#

What

slow valve
#

@little leaf What does that mean?

little leaf
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Just ask him

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Trying to biy something

slow valve
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okay

stoic island
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I am the all knowing...
Of price to perf

little osprey
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Hello im looking to build my first pc. The budget is $500 and i just need help picking parts for the build. Any help is appreciated.

slow valve
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@stoic island I'm relatively new to pc building and want to build a pc that has a 2080ti and hopefully a Ryzen processor. I value the performance rather than looks so looks don't matter to me, i don't care if it has RGB or not I want performance first. I plan to use it for streaming and high end gaming. What would be the best parts to make this a beast of a rig with a budget of $2300-$3000?

little osprey
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360mm aio rgb reccomendations?

buoyant flame
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I like the 360mm aio from ek
https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-aio-360-d-rgb

little osprey
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From third party retailers please

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Like newegg

stoic island
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went overboard bc it's 3000$
why not

buoyant flame
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Guess corsair is your best bet then

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Kraken is gonna he super expensive

little osprey
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Link it up

stoic island
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Kraken X73

little osprey
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Well this is what he was looking at so lol

stoic island
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H150i

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242$ holy

little osprey
#

I bet most stuff is cheaper than that

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Yeah

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That's what I was saying

buoyant flame
#

I mean, h150i is just as expensive

buoyant flame
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Ah there we go

slow valve
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Thank you for your time, it's very helpful @stoic island

stoic island
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I need to check the review on the new MSI aio

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You're welcome

buoyant flame
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Newegg was overpriced and I dont know much about corsair aio pricing so I didn't know

stoic island
little osprey
stoic island
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say 100-150 is usual overkill price range

white osprey
#

hey can somebody here help with something on ebay?

buoyant flame
#

I think 150 is about average for a 360mm

stoic island
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yea

white osprey
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so

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i think the buyer only accepting pay pal?

stoic island
#

?

white osprey
#

but cc is there as an option

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but wont work

stoic island
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I mean

white osprey
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ive tried looking this up multiple times

little osprey
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And by power he means 3800XT

white osprey
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looks like u can only use paypal

stoic island
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if you buy through ebay

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ebay takes credit card

white osprey
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or link paypal to cc

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yeah i am buying through ebay

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its happen on a lot of items for me

stoic island
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weird

white osprey
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whether i use credit or debit

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doesnt seem to matter

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this seems to be an issue for other people

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doesnt seem to have a good fix either

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its really annoying

slow valve
#

Do you have a motherboard on the market with an ethernet plug? @stoic island

stoic island
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99% of motherboards have a ethernet port

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it doesn't come with a cable but it has the port

slow valve
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Wait

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sorry I didn't see it had it

stoic island
slow valve
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Do you have any recommendations for a monitor at 1440p? @stoic island

stoic island
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annnd it's out of stock damn it

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Yes

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lemme check pricing first tho

slow valve
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Thank you very much

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have a nice day

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I hope i haven't bothered you

stoic island
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there were some others but out of stock or overpriced

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You're welcome

fathom gate
#

Pixio has a nice one I think it's the px278

stoic island
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none of the pixio panels are in stock as far as I can see

white osprey
#

can anybody here help me with ebay checkout problems?

drifting timber
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hi

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should i wait for ryzen 4000 nvidia 3000?

viral ore
#

if you want to wait

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sure

drifting timber
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thx sassy

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any idea how long the wait will be

viral ore
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plan to wait 3 months at least

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maybe even 4

drifting timber
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ya i can wait

viral ore
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if youre looking to spend like 1200 or more, wait

drifting timber
#

yea look to build a high end system

viral ore
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if your budget is like 800 or less, just buy now

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ok

drifting timber
#

yea plan to spend more than 1200

viral ore
#

nice

drifting timber
#

🙂

viral ore
#

make sure to come back here and ask for help putting together a component list

drifting timber
#

yea

viral ore
#

theres like about 50-100 of us who keep up with tech news, so theres usually always someone here who can help you

drifting timber
#

thanks

stoic island
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holy hell that's a big boi

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that's just overkill on everything... @drifting timber what do you do?

tiny grove
viral ore
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oh jeez @drifting timber

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what on earth are you doing with that?

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you did a decent job at picking parts tho

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the only obvious things that are odd is your PSU choice

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1000w is seriously overkill

fathom gate
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850w bru and that's prolly more than enough.

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But jealous of that pc choice.

stoic island
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Cooler overkill/overpriced, Mobo overkill/overpriced, Ram overpriced/overkill/not great perf, SSD way overkill, GPU somehow underpowered considering budget, Case overkill/overpriced, PSU Overkill

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only thing that makes sense is the CPU, 3950x makes sense for some people

fathom gate
#

Another way to look at each of those overkill/overpriced nods is. Quality/Expensive.

stoic island
#

?

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Overkill doesn't mean quality

fathom gate
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I

stoic island
#

hell I wouldn't call that aio overkill, just overpriced

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just an average 280mm aio that's somehow 170$+

fathom gate
#

He's paying for it in quality, overkill doesn't mean quality you're right but what he has there is quality for EXTRA price.

viral ore
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idk, 4th gen ssd speeds might be helpful, unless the goal of this pc is literally just to be overkill

stoic island
#

not really

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I'll take an Arctic Freezer II over that

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for cheaper

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better cooling

fathom gate
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For a 3400$ pc.

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The goal better be overkill

viral ore
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i mean, its obv expensive, but it might not be overkill

stoic island
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Overpriced

fathom gate
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True you don

viral ore
#

maybe he really does need a pcie 4.0 ssd, and 64gb of ram

stoic island
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overkill in this case for example the mobo

fathom gate
#

don't know what they're doing with it.

stoic island
#

like

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why

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what does that have a unify doesn't

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basically nothing

viral ore
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i just didnt want to get into it now, because hes not buying for a couple of months @stoic island

stoic island
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Just pointing issues out now

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for the future

viral ore
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yeah, but well point them out later

stoic island
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2tb gen 4 ssd as sole storage

viral ore
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when we figure out what hes doing with 64gb of ram lmao

stoic island
#

the idea is to learn is it not?

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also cl18

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32gb sticks

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that case looks like a phat o11 with fans lol

viral ore
#

im just saying, if hes using it for work, and has money to throw away, then this is fine, so until we know use case, i guess we'll just wait for him to respond

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or when he comes back in like 3 months

stoic island
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Even if it is for work

drifting timber
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hey was afk

stoic island
#

why not grab say a Arctic freezer II 360mm for cheaper

viral ore
#

i mean, yeah, lots of money in looks

fathom gate
#

I think honestly the bottom line is if he has money to throw away, it's his money.

drifting timber
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i like to get the best of best every 3 years

viral ore
#

yeah, they got money

stoic island
#

and it's my choice to critique the part selection

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why spend more for less?

viral ore
#

nothing wrong with that

stoic island
#

that's my point

fathom gate
#

And mine to defend his choices?

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Is it not the same thing?

viral ore
#

also true

stoic island
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Yes

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it is

viral ore
#

anyway, matrix, what are you using this pc for???

stoic island
#

But I never said anything about your choice to defend the options

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Just on the part selections

drifting timber
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gaming, multiple vms, cad

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its easy to use up 32gb

viral ore
#

ok, so 64gb of ram is fine

drifting timber
#

i got 32 right now

viral ore
#

yeah

stoic island
#

why 32gb per stick is my question

viral ore
#

i got 64 as well

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it nice

stoic island
#

cl18

drifting timber
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32 per stick so i can upgrade

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if i need to later

stoic island
#

it's hard to find 32gb cl16 sticks

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think I found some on newegg before, brb

viral ore
#

he might not need that kind of memory perf for vms tho

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like

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cl18 is fine

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or maybe 3200 cl16 might be better

stoic island
#

all oos

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I mean if you're allocating ram for VMs, why not take advantage of faster ram in the VMs?

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It's not like VMs put a speed limit on your ram

viral ore
#

because the ram is probably fast enough as it is

#

like

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idk

stoic island
#

???

viral ore
#

i mean its ram, what an extra ns of latency really gonna do

#

it might not be noticable

stoic island
#

cpu perf

drifting timber
#

mr weeb if you dont like my components what would you like

viral ore
#

i think the main issue he has is that most of these components cost alot

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like, for no reason

drifting timber
#

ohh

viral ore
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370 dollar mobo

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260 dollar case

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380 dollar ssd is absurd for most people

drifting timber
#

i bought a 965 and people kept giving me crap about it but i never regretted it

viral ore
#

the ram could be faster

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small things for the most part

stoic island
drifting timber
#

thx

stoic island
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the thing is

viral ore
#

like, if your getting a new system every 3 years, and you have money to throw at looks, then theres nothing wrong with this, its just that we all typically think more budget and price/perf wise

drifting timber
#

yea sasy thats the idea

stoic island
#

if you're spending 3000$+ and don't have a 2080ti or equivalent in it
I'm gonna dislike it

drifting timber
#

ohh

viral ore
#

basically

drifting timber
#

interesting

viral ore
#

price/perf of this system is kinda bad

stoic island
#

if you're spending top dollar for performance, might as well get the top performer you know

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I kept the SSD in there because

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well storage is reusable

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worthy investment imo

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64gb of 3600cl16 ram

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360mm aio

slow valve
#

honestly why should looks matter over performance right @stoic island

viral ore
#

whats the purpose of these builds

stoic island
#

Change the PSU in the first list and that one imo @white osprey

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unless you need intel for smth

#

Performance all the way

white osprey
#

intel adv?

#

any advantage to having intel

viral ore
#

are you literally just gaming?

white osprey
#

p much

viral ore
#

10600k is solid

stoic island
#

no intel advantage at the budget tho

drifting timber
#

thx

stoic island
#

10600kf+2070s vs 3600+2080s

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the 2080s is still going to outperform the 2070s

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even if it's bogged down a little by the CPU

viral ore
#

true

white osprey
#

does intel in general have any advantage?

viral ore
#

but if FPS is important

white osprey
#

like in terms of convience for any games

stoic island
#

Better gaming perf
for more monie

viral ore
#

like, a 240hz monitor

stoic island
#

no

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It's just better gaming performance for more expensive

#

that's what Intel is for

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Intel isn't for the low/mid end

white osprey
#

okay so

viral ore
#

if your using a 240hz monitor, however, i would suggest the 10600k

stoic island
#

10600k is a solid CPU for 1500$+ builds for sure

white osprey
#

i mean i can run all games with this build tho right?

viral ore
#

yeah, pretty much

stoic island
#

Most

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I can't predict the future

white osprey
#

which game could this not run ?

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right now

viral ore
#

none

white osprey
#

1080p

#

thinking of getting 144hz

#

monitor

stoic island
#

It can do everything then

viral ore
#

144hz? then the 3600 is the better choice

white osprey
#

high/ultra?

stoic island
#

yes

viral ore
#

that varies by title

#

but for the most part yes

stoic island
#

with a 2080 super it's basically guaranteed

#

at 1080p

#

unless it's like crysis rtx

white osprey
#

okay

#

what

#

psu should i get

stoic island
#

maybe minecraft rtx, forgot how that performed

viral ore
#

yeah, any graphical settings for a game are gonna mostly be gpu bound, and a 2080s gives you more headroom for graphical perf

stoic island
#

CX650w I think was in stock

viral ore
#

imma edit list brb

white osprey
#

do i need a fan

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like the 2nd one has ?

slow valve
#

so would you want to put your games on a 2TB HDD or the 1TB NVME SSD?

stoic island
#

depends on the game

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some random game you're not gonna play, hdd it goes

white osprey
#

rust needs ssd

stoic island
#

some game you play a lot and want short loading time, SSD it goes

white osprey
#

so i need a 650w psu yes?

slow valve
#

so high end games so on the SSD while the ones you play sometimes go on HDD got it

stoic island
#

550w works

slow valve
#

Thanks

stoic island
#

I mean

white osprey
#

550w no risks?

stoic island
#

Yes

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450w is risky

viral ore
#

550w is pushing it a bit

#

650w max

white osprey
#

so y did the person who made this list put a psu that was so high

#

any reason?

stoic island
#

lemme check 2080s power draw brb

viral ore
#

price difference between 550 and 650w is very minimal tho

white osprey
#

so a solid 600w?

viral ore
#

2080s power consumption peak is like 260w

stoic island
#

260w peak yea

viral ore
#

plus the 80w from the 3600

stoic island
#

65w tdp

#

unless pbo or boost I think

viral ore
#

ya know, honestly the 550w might not be off the table

#

just most 550w psus suck

white osprey
#

could someone link a psu then?

stoic island
#

I mean

viral ore
stoic island
#

I'll take a look

#

revolution d.f. is good

viral ore
#

the mobo is temporarily oos tho

#

but more in stock in like a week

#

if your buying real soon i can change that

white osprey
#

well

#

my budget is like 1300

#

so

stoic island
#

no filters

#

feelsgood

white osprey
#

is the mobo i had good?

stoic island
#

Yes

#

could go cheaper tho

white osprey
#

um

#

no ty

stoic island
#

oh wait your list

white osprey
#

my list

#

yes

stoic island
#

thought you meant sassys

white osprey
#

no

stoic island
#

in that case it's could be better xD

white osprey
#

well

#

is it good enough?

#

like wont breakdown

#

or have any problems

stoic island
#

it's just back ordered for a while

#

no issues

viral ore
#

oh, crucial P2 is on sale

stoic island
#

ya

viral ore
#

now were getting somewhere

stoic island
#

heh?

#

whats wrong with pcpp

#

it broke

viral ore
#

its fine for me

stoic island
#

oh I see

#

compatibility filter with a dif list

viral ore
#

ahh

stoic island
#

ok CX is all overpriced :(

old charm
#

is this the best channel to ask for help?

white osprey
#

100$ psu possible?

slow valve
#

what's the difference between the ryzen 7 3700X and ryzen 7 3800X?

old charm
#

my friend is having a problem with his pc and i wonder if I could get some insight

stoic island
#

3800x=more expensive 3700x

#

higher boost click

#

looking for PSUs rn

white osprey
#

ok

slow valve
#

So if you plan on overclocking you want the 3800X?

viral ore
#

if you plan on overclocking you want the 3800xt

#

but, thats assuming you literally only care about ocing

slow valve
#

I don't plan on any over clocking anyway

stoic island
#

No

viral ore
#

then get the 3700x lmao

slow valve
#

i was just curious

stoic island
#

Just don't get the 3800x

#

that's what I'd say

viral ore
#

yeah, its kinda in a useless spot

#

like, the only reason you would pay extra for one was for ocing

#

but, now 3800xt

#

so

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

slow valve
#

Yeah i have no plans to overclock

stoic island
#

even for ocing

#

it's barely better silicon

viral ore
#

but if youre already paying extra

#

whats wrong with paying a little extra more

#

😋

stoic island
#

dunno

digital pecan
#

@gaunt remnant what desk is that?

stoic island
#

everything?

viral ore
#

nahh

slow valve
#

I'm just looking for some good case fans now, what would be the best in performance and the look doesn't matter?

#

@stoic island

viral ore
#

anything noctua

#

arctic has some good cheap fans

slow valve
#

okay thanks

stoic island
#

Noctua is best noise to performance hands down

#

:P

slow valve
#

@stoic island do you think the pc parts list you gave me that it would have good cooling already or do i need to add some fans?

white osprey
#

can someone link a psu for 100

#

550w or more

little osprey
#

Recommendations for a 3-400$ laptop with a dedicated gpu? Used for random stuff and a bit of gaming, needs to be a laptop because I travel alot

stoic island
#

one more 120mm fan in the back

#

that's all you need

#

@little osprey hard to find unless you plan on doing used laptop

white osprey
#

hey weeb

#

the build from earlier

#

does it need an added fan?

stoic island
#

never need

#

just good to have one as exhaust

little osprey
#

Wouldnt mind getting a used or refurbished, I found one on newegg but it had no reviews, looked a bit good for the minor price of $321

white osprey
#

did the case come with fans ?

stoic island
#

Focus G yes

#

Focus G comes with 2 intake

#

could add 1 exhaust if you want

white osprey
#

okay

#

so

#

does everything fit

stoic island
#

yes

white osprey
#

i chose to go with this mobo

#

u linked it earlier

little osprey
stoic island
#

I guess

#

you don't have much of an option at <500$

little osprey
#

Yeah true

slow valve
#

how big it the noise of a fan at 44dB compared to 18dB?

stoic island
#

sounds like a lot but

little osprey
#

Nothing super serious, I have a HP 225 G6 rn thats way too slow for what I want to do, so an upgrade is in the future. Want atleast 8gb ram, ryzen 3 and a dedicated gpu

stoic island
#

fan noise is hard to define

slow valve
#

so it's a slight difference or a noticeable difference that's easy to ignore

stoic island
#

high dB low pitch is a lot less annoying than low dB high pitch

#

what exactly are you comparing?

slow valve
#

I'm looking at noctua fans and trying to Figuring out which to get

stoic island
#

don't get the industrial ones

#

iPPC ones

#

those are loud server fans

#

the one that are like black + orange accents

slow valve
#

Wait so get the ones that aren't IPPC or industrial

stoic island
#

Yes

#

for example Nf-a12x25

#

those are recognized as basically the best fans you can get

#

a bit of a steep price

#

but really good fans

slow valve
#

you said i only should need one right?

stoic island
#

ye

slow valve
#

thanks again

little osprey
#

Oh, another one I saw for about 330$ was the Motile 14" w/ Ryzen 3500U, hows that for mild gaming? Saw a review by The Toasty Bros and it seemed to play CS:GO at 60fps on 1080p low settings

spiral zealot
#

For very light stuff it's not bad. It's limited to single channel memory though, so you're cutting the 3500U's performance effectively in half.

little osprey
#

Yeah I just read that lol. Most games I play are low end, like Minecraft, Terraria, and some others but im wanting to play a bit better/more games. Atm I have to run mc with optifine and everything off, just to get about a steady 20fps

#

But I mean, a 3500u with 1/2 the performance, 8gb ram, would be better than my e2-9000e and 4gb ram 😂

spiral zealot
#

Very true, sometimes you can find the Motile machines on eBay/Reddit for even less than initial MSRP as well. Something to keep in mind if you're looking for one.

little osprey
#

Alright, thanks! Been looking at Craigslist and ebay for custom build laptops too, a friend scored a ryzen 7, 32gb ram and a 2060 for 600$ recently

#

Not sure what I'm going to get yet, been looking at other laptops and making a list

little osprey
white osprey
#

ok so

#

ive been thinking

#

2080s vs 2070s seems to have a maybe 20% dif

#

for a 200 dollar dif

stoic island
#

Yes

white osprey
#

so should i just get the 2070s

#

i mean i dont do hardcore gaming

stoic island
#

the more of your budget you can cram into the GPU the better

white osprey
#

triple a games ultra settings 1440p

stoic island
#

for overall performance

white osprey
#

well

#

i need a monitor as well

#

and i could use that 200

#

on a monitor

spiral zealot
#

@little osprey the ideapad has dual channel, it just has 4GB soldered to the board and a single slot with another 4GB stick in it

#

so you can upgrade the single slot to 8GB and have 12GB total

stoic island
#

if you need the 200 in the monitor

#

try to shave money off other stuff

#

if you cant

#

lower gpu

white osprey
#

i mean its not like a 2070s is bad?

little osprey
#

Ohh I see, ty lol

stoic island
#

GPU = Your performance

#

so

#

yea

white osprey
#

well

little osprey
#

$358 doesnt sound bad, but it does sound underpriced for the specs, could it or am I just overthinking?

white osprey
#

is there games a 2070s have hard time running?

stoic island
#

in 1440p Yes

white osprey
#

not 1440p

#

sorry if i said that earlier

#

144hz what i meant

stoic island
white osprey
#

1080p

stoic island
#

.......

spiral zealot
#

i mean, I bought a Lenovo A485 r5 2500u, 8GB, 256GB, and I paid $450 for it, last year

white osprey
#

already said sorry D:

spiral zealot
#

so $350 isn't bad for similar stats

#

i was able to upgrade mine to 16GB though, so it's a little more flexible in terms of upgradability

little osprey
#

Does anything with the ram matter when upgrading the 4gb to 8, other than maybe mhz?

white osprey
#

well

spiral zealot
#

those boards can only handle up to 2400mhz

white osprey
#

sense ill be getting a 2070s instead

spiral zealot
#

so that's all that matters

little osprey
#

Ah alright

white osprey
#

can someone link a monitor thats 144hz

#

under 200

little osprey
#

Hmm, does an eGPU need anything special port wise?

#

External gpu*

stoic island
#

Yes

spiral zealot
#

you need thunderbolt for that

stoic island
#

USB-c w thunderbolt

spiral zealot
#

^

stoic island
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or hdmi

little osprey
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Has an hdmi

spiral zealot
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HDMI can't run egpu because it doesn't have access to pci lanes iirc