#building-and-recc-chat

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viral ore
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wher give way winner

buoyant flame
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If givway winer get email y I no get email?

bold turret
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this is my full pc closly

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how much u guys rate it

buoyant flame
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Looks good

bold turret
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thanks

umbral frost
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Does anyone know anything about not being able to move icons on the desktop?

fast dust
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What OS do you have

sand falcon
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Don't put icons on the desktop, easy fix

viral ore
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ez

umbral frost
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@fast dust Windows 10

bold turret
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lmao

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ez fix

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No icons at all

fast dust
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@umbral frost what version? Also is it activated or not

umbral frost
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It wasn’t activated, and windows 10 pro 64 bit

fast dust
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Maybe it’s because it’s not activated

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Get a cheap eBay key and see if that fixes it

umbral frost
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It’s definitely activated

fast dust
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I don’t work with inactivated win 10 a lot though so Idk if that’s the fix

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Oh it’s activated now

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Have you tried turning it off and back on again lmao

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In reality though I’m not a software guy I’m mainly a hardware guy

umbral frost
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Yeah that usually fixes it, but I wanted to see if there was an easier way

fast dust
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Nah just restart it if you haven’t to see if that works

umbral frost
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Alright

fast dust
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I find that shutting it down completely and turning it back on helps more than restarting btw

umbral frost
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I’ll do it

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Thanks

fast dust
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I know I pretty much didn’t help at all lol but your welcome

rugged spear
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Windows10...
Have you tried checking that "Show desktop icons" option from the Desktop's Right-click Menu > View ?

@umbral frost

river drift
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any one know of a good streaming pc build preferably amd

stoic island
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what budget

river drift
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i got 5000 to spare on this

mortal rampart
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5k??

river drift
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yeo

mortal rampart
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Gah Dayum

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Im gonna go @ you and e-beg in the self promo chat <33

stoic island
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@river drift you want prebuilt or build it yourself

river drift
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either

stoic island
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like 5000$ is like the point where you just grab some flashy 3000$ pc and be done with it

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I'll make a list and look for prebuilds

river drift
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i made a amd ryzen 5 build for a starter but streaming is bad it tanks on modern warfare

stoic island
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ye modern warfare needs a lot of gpu power for streaming

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I hear people saying 2070 super struggles with it

river drift
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would the amd's newest gpu be a contender

stoic island
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not out yet so

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:P

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right now, no

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5700xt is worse than 2070 super in pure performance, and Nvenc in Nvidia GPUs is better for streaming

river drift
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gotcha

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what if i went big bucks for a titan card

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probably not the best fps im asuming

stoic island
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just... don't

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titans arn't made for gaming

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even today it doesn't make sense to get anything past a 2080ti

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If you wait for 3080ti/3090 to come out, those will be good

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but right now that's the list I suggest

river drift
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dang i could buy two of thoes lol

stoic island
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Don't do dual GPU...

river drift
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gotcha no sli

stoic island
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It's a pain to setup, lack of compatibility, and not worth how much more you're spending

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I'll look for prebuilts now

river drift
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ok

stoic island
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didn't know this existed

rugged spear
river drift
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i will buy that just to drive forget performance lol just kidding

stoic island
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anyways just taking a look at origin... they're as overpriced as ever

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a similar setup to the list I sent, costs 4000$

river drift
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never heard of them

mortal rampart
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Really??

river drift
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how about digital storm assuming the same

stoic island
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Maingear is pretty good for prebuilts

mortal rampart
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Nice

stoic island
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that alienware pc actually has pretty good value

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relative to the other stuff

river drift
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your kidding me Alienware cheaper no way not in a milion years did i expect that

stoic island
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2tb ssd+2tb hdd+64gb ram

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thats more than the other setups

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ima check omen pricing

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pretty low powered for omen

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ima check cyberpower

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Cyperpower doesn't seem like it has a 3950x option, but a similar 10900k build would be 3400$, not bad

river drift
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ok

stoic island
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anyways just giving you options

river drift
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still not bad at all on my price budget

stoic island
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yea

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Cyberpower and Alienware are the decent prebuilt options so far, and the list I sent

river drift
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how about a full custom water cooled pc

stoic island
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lemme check

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think ekwb made some

river drift
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ekwb or thermaltake ill trust

stoic island
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aw no it's only 3900x+5700xt

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lemme check the other prebuilt companies rq

river drift
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any good idk

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lol

viral ore
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bitspower is solid

buoyant flame
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I prefer a flashy cpu block but ya, looks good

stoic island
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if you really want custom loop, imo it's worth it to do prebuilt

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they usually route stuff better, make it look nicer, and lower risk when filling the loop and leak checking the loop

river drift
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yeah i found a company called zidax

ripe wind
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I just build my first pc.. you guys made it easy thanks for those who helped..

little osprey
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Is the nzxt starter pc any good?

sweet dove
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its one of the better prebuilds but still more expensive than building it yourself

little osprey
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Bro Idk

edgy wagon
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Just finished setup on my new monitor 😄

little osprey
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I been looking for weeks for the motherboard i want and it sells out instantly

digital finch
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Hey everyone, first time PC builder here looking for some feedback on a build I whipped up on PCPARTPICKER.COM

My goal is to create a gaming rig for around $1000-$1500(CAN). Not interested in RGBs going pewpew, and do not need to game on the highest graphics setting.

One thing I am concerned about is the MOBO I chose. Without enough fan headers could I use a splitter or just plug it into my PSU somehow?

Would cable extensions help with cable management for the sake of increased airflow within the case?

Not too concerned about having more storage at the moment. However it is something I will keep an eye out for if I find a good sale on a 2TB HDD (Most likely for extra games). Is there something I can do to improve file transfer speeds from my main storage (NVME) to the secondary storage (HDD)?

CPU: AMD 3600
MOBO: Gigabyte B450M
RAM: 2 x 8gb DDR4-3200
STORAGE: 1 TB NVME SSD
GPU: 5700 XT (Sapphire)
CASE: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case
PSU: SeaSonic 650 W 80+ Gold Fully Modular
CASE FAN: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 * 4

mortal rampart
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Send the link lmao

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Looks pretty good tho

stoic island
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Need more specifics, plz sent pcpp link
@digital finch

sand falcon
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Looks pretty solid

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Lotsa fans, but nohing wrong with that

digital finch
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I was inspired by you bob

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Been lurking on this server for a lil bit till I decided to join. Spent the last week or so following along in chat and slowly learning. Then put together a build based on what I think works for me.

stoic island
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Ye my suggestion was just halve the fans and go for 3600cl16 ram
Nothing wrong with everything else

sand falcon
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It is a good build

little osprey
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How do u upgrade bios?

stoic island
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Update*

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Depends on the motherboard

little osprey
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Autocorrect my b

stoic island
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Otherwise download onto USB, go into bios, and use m flash or whatever it was called

little osprey
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When ever I try to use another motherboard on pcpart picker it says warning I need to upgrade mother board

stoic island
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Depends on the motherboard

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If you're pairing b450 with 3rd gen Ryzen, you can ignore it

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That's just redundant

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The chances of you getting a board with not up to date bios (bios that supports 3rd gen chips released ~2 years ago) is very very slim

digital finch
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I see some builds using some sort of thermal paste or compound. What is this exactly? I know it has something to do with helping the transfer of heat. Just not sure exactly how to use it. Or if it is necessary for when I decide to build my PC.

little osprey
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@digital finch if u using a ryzen cpu u don’t need it I think

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I’m using this motherboard and it says it need to update but idk how

sand falcon
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It will be fine

stoic island
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@digital finch thermal paste is always needed, but stock cooler on Ryzen comes preapplied with thermal paste

desert gulch
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@little osprey that psu may be difficult to find, yesterday it was in stock for a little but it's been out of stock for over month before that.

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Actually looks like Newegg and BH have it

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Nvrmind

sullen spoke
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2 of some of the best places 😋

desert gulch
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I like wally-world more but ok. SmileyEgg

queen tulip
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baka survivor

little osprey
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I try to build a pc but it gave me an error can some body help me

desert gulch
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What did the error say?

little osprey
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hey guys i was wondering if i should set my fans to full speed?

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I just scren shots

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I can send it to you

desert gulch
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Ok

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@sand falcon this isn't necessary is it? Only for extreme oc'ing?

little osprey
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Oh so it is not a proble

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Problem *

desert gulch
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I don't believe so

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Maybe wanna ask some other people though too

little osprey
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Ok thx

sand falcon
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Shouldn't be an issue

desert gulch
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Cause I had that same error but I figured I would be fine

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I should be fine with a 5700 xt right?

little osprey
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But my gpu is 2070 super

desert gulch
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5700xt is more power-hungry

little osprey
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But i want to use rtx thing

desert gulch
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That won't demand more power

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It should work fine

little osprey
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Ok

uneven sparrow
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Is a [Ryzen 5 3600, 16gb RAM, GTX 1660 SUPER] entry level?

mortal rampart
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Mm

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You're mid range

little osprey
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can some one help me

bold turret
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guys do i need extenction cables?

sullen spoke
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For psu? Likely not

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Most people just get them for custom cables to look pretty

uneven osprey
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yoooo

fast dust
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Oh he gone

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Sad

uneven osprey
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Can i use G.Skill trident z royal that has intel.xmp on label for x570 mobo

fast dust
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Yep we use it all the time for AMD builds

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And if it doesn’t work you can just return it

uneven osprey
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I aint missing anything am i?

severe bloom
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The timings are horrible that’s why it’s cheap

fast dust
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Timings are as important as speed

uneven osprey
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ahh okay

analog hearth
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timings don't make that much of a difference lol

fast dust
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Er I’m thinking of CL huh

analog hearth
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does the difference exist? yes. is it that dramatic? no

fast dust
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Er wait

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Hold on my brains cells kinda slow rn

analog hearth
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relatable

severe bloom
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Timings make a huge difference. They are latency timings. The higher they are the more delay before ram can be accessed.

analog hearth
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yes

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I mean I guess it just depends on what you're doing

fast dust
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Here’s a chart to show you this in action once it uploads

analog hearth
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I mean, it would perform better, but the price to performance ratio is absurd if you asked me

uneven osprey
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well i guess i need 3600 mhz min cos of infinity fabric

analog hearth
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I'm on 3200MHz. haven't tried 3600MHz, but I'd imagine it wouldn't make that big of a difference

fast dust
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It makes a bigger difference then you’d think... if you’re on AMD

uneven osprey
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I am

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^^same

analog hearth
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I mean, there's a difference, just not that big, based on what I've seen

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I mean, definitely get a higher speed, but if you expect something like, a 50% increase in performance from 3200MHz and 3600MHz, you should probably look at more benchmarks

uneven osprey
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So peeps before i buy ram

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What are your suggestions

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defo 3600mhz

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just brand i guess

analog hearth
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make sure it's B-die
(somebody correct me)

severe bloom
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Gskill 3200mhz cl14 kits are bdie and oc to 3600 and above no problem

analog hearth
uneven osprey
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noice

analog hearth
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I've heard Corsair actually makes garbage RAM

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I'd just stick to G.skill and you won't have a problem

severe bloom
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Yeah Corsair kits will most likely use lower quality ram

analog hearth
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lol whoops, shouldn't've gone Corsair :/

wooden viper
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httpsa://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xj4tTC thoughts?

stoic island
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Go for a different motherboard

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Could get different case

wooden viper
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What mother board do you recommend?

stoic island
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If you really want x570, Asus x570 plus wifi

wooden viper
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I kinda want it cheaper

stoic island
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Then Asus b550 plus or something

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MSI b550 a pro is decent

bold turret
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some one msg me asap as i am building a pc and i need help

analog hearth
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ASUS Prime X570-P actually isn't that bad. has the best VRM thermals out of most (if not all) "budget" X570 motherboards

wooden viper
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Shi so all of that worth

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I mean good picks?

analog hearth
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wat

stoic island
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@analog hearth not in stock when I checked tho

analog hearth
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ah rip

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if you wanna budget, I'd wait for it. unless you can find something better of course

stoic island
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Also, the only other x570 boards at that price are the toasty MSI boards sooo

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Not much of a competition

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B550 a pro should be decent at 140$

fallow cloak
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Hi I am planning to build a Linux PC with 64GB of RAM and Two GTX2080 Graphics, Is there any advice in what motherboard and processor and other things to use. I have never build a PC before. My budget is within $2500-$3000.

analog hearth
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oh are the cheaper MSI X570 boards also good?

stoic island
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why?

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@analog hearth no

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Those are the toasty vrm ones

analog hearth
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ah

stoic island
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The MSI a pro and the gaming edge

analog hearth
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I mean, you won't have an issue with VRMs even with a 3700X (not OC'd)

stoic island
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The ones that were overheating

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Yea but preferably not

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It was like 130c with a 3950x kinda hot

woven crypt
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@fallow cloak https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ Idk if you're aware of this site, but you can select the pieces you've already chosen to see if everything is compatible, and where you can purchase items for the cheapest price

stoic island
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Ya

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@fallow cloak also why are you going to do sli?

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Dual GPU doesn't mean double the performance

fallow cloak
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Thanks a lot!

stoic island
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And compatibility is wacky

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Need to buy extra sli bridge

woven crypt
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It's definitely more efficient and reliable to have one powerful card

fallow cloak
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I will be doing some 3D computing.

stoic island
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For like 40% gains at double the price

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What programs

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Only thing that does multi GPU well is blender, everything else kinda doesn't work well afaik

fallow cloak
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Relion for protein 3D structure.

stoic island
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Yea I'd stay with one powerful GPU

buoyant flame
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Me too

fallow cloak
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Thanks!

stoic island
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Also new generation coming out soon

buoyant flame
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You can also run into over heating problem with multi gpus if there is inadequate spacing in-between them and they're not on water. Just another reason why I don't like it

woven crypt
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Also new generation coming out soon
2021?

stoic island
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Rtx 3000 series

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Should be later this year

buoyant flame
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Q4

stoic island
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Ya

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Sometime q4

woven crypt
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I coincidentally looked up information regarding the 3000 Series earlier today, and the articles I was skimming through said 2021

stoic island
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Really?

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Nvidia was saying q4 2020

woven crypt
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Were they saying that relatively recently?

buoyant flame
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Ya, that would be a big bummer if it was delayed again

stoic island
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Afaik ya

buoyant flame
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Zen 3 was also supposed to come Q4 iirc

stoic island
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mhm

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tho xt

buoyant flame
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What about it?

stoic island
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might replace zen 3 launch, not sure

buoyant flame
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Oh

stoic island
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prob not but still a possibility

buoyant flame
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Ya, i wouldnt appreciate that lol

woven crypt
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@fallow cloak What are you looking for in a monitor?

silk estuary
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H m m

sand falcon
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@fallow cloak A bit late to the party, but does your application need nvidia?

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It also appears that Relion is designed to scale well with multiple GPUs/Nodes, so if you need the extra power you might as well get it

stoic island
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Many don't so it's just a warning

sand falcon
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It's designed to work with MPI, so it should be fine

wooden viper
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When the 3000 series come will the 20 cards get cheaper

buoyant flame
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Not likely

silk estuary
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Well at this rate...

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Anything that's in stock isn't gonna be cheap

fallow cloak
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@sand falcon Thanks. yes.

sand falcon
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Np

woven crypt
sand falcon
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Only one 2080 and not much storage

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👎

sick echo
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Hello, Im looking into getting a gaming Pc. Been told the pros and cons of buying either a pre built or just building my own. need help or i guess guidance.

analog hearth
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I wouldn't buy parts now. however, I would research more and more until you feel you can afford parts, as it's usually better to build rather than buy prebuilt

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typically, when you buy a prebuilt machine, it'll more than likely come with a faulty, no-name power supply (same thing with the motherboard and sometimes the graphics card)

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and if you put the time into learning, you'll understand how to troubleshoot in case something is wrong with your PC. in those terms, it's either build something reliable and understand how to fix when necessary vs buying prebuilt and not knowing how to fix the system when necessary

thin salmon
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I agree as far as it not being a good time to build, but when it’s a good time it’s to build one I found it very satisfying.

analog hearth
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^ that too

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you have a reason to be proud of yourself lol

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you just learned a new skill at that point

sick echo
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okay sounds good so just hold off for now ? yeah my budget rn is $1500

brave oracle
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hmmm 1k white themed pc....

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help pls

potent prairie
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You can build a PC right now and not get crappy prices (w/ time), but it is better to wait and educate yourself a bit first

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Ltt is a good start

desert gulch
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So is this discord

sacred obsidian
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uh, you are on discord, yes. im not sure i understand the question

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oh wait

desert gulch
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No I meant this discord is also a good place to start learning about pcs

sacred obsidian
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that wasnt a question

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lmao

desert gulch
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Lol

sacred obsidian
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im sorry

desert gulch
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Ur good

sacred obsidian
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i didnt read the message above 😛

desert gulch
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Well, now it's understandable for everyone else too lmao

little osprey
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Whats better ryzen 5-series 3600 8gb memory nvidia gforce gtx 1660 súper or ryzen 5 3600 16gb memory amd radeon rx 5600xt

sand falcon
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I'd go with 16GB

little osprey
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Ight thx

next kestrel
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5600xt == 2060 super

stoic island
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@next kestrel not quite, 5600xt barely edges out 2060

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so not exactly on the same level as 2060s

next kestrel
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oh wait thinking of 5700xt and 2070 super

stoic island
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they don't scale down nicely

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like 5500xt isn't exactly on the level of 1660s

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but actually 1650s

next kestrel
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wish they'd be more consistent

stoic island
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eh

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it is what it is

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@next kestrel 5700xt is the only AMD GPU that really beats out Nvidia at same price

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and it does it damn well

next kestrel
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I'd prob get the 5600xt over the 2060 tho

stoic island
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why

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Linux is the only reason I'd get 5600xt over 2060

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otherwise 2060 is the same performance

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but better utilities (nvenc, drivers, etc)

next kestrel
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i use linux :))

stoic island
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ya

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that makes sense

next kestrel
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yeah ik i would recommend 2060 over 5600xt

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because nobody i know uses linux :((

stoic island
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bob wya

modern shadow
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Is it worth spending more on my next upgrade so that I get a 2060 rather than a gtx 1660 super?

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nd are those two worth the upgrade over my rx570?

stoic island
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Wait and save up, maybe 3060 will be 350$

modern shadow
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Yeah Im probably either gonna upgrade my gpu or monitor this year

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really should get monitor ngl

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I have a 1080p 60 hz 32in curved rn

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should I upgrade my monitor first or my gpu?

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@stoic island

stoic island
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Both :p

severe bloom
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Wait for monitor next gen cards should support display port 2 and hdmi 2.1

stoic island
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Should

modern shadow
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My wallet limits me to ~one purchase a year

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so yeah

severe bloom
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If the consoles are delivering 4k@240hz so will pc

modern shadow
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is there other expected nividia gpus other than rtx?

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wish theyed support the lower end a little more

stoic island
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no

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not with q4 launch at least

severe bloom
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Rtx is Nvidias future so maybe they will release something more budget friendly this time around but doubt it.

modern shadow
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I feel like if I get the gpu, the monitor wont express its full potential

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but I I get the monitor, the gpu wont hold up to its standard

silk estuary
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Gpu first

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Monitor second

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No wair

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*wait

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Cuz the new gpus comin out this year

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Idk

glass laurel
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I need help with this problem I’ve been having

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So I have a WiFi adapter because my router is to far away to use Ethernet but this started happening recently I will connect to the WiFi and then it will just disconnect me for like 2-3 minutes let’s say it does this every minute pretty much

sacred obsidian
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is it a pcie wifi card or usb?

digital finch
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Are pcie wifi cards better than usb in terms of more stable connections?

sacred obsidian
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kinda, yes

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in my experience my wifi would disconnect when it cant detect it, usb wifi cards dont do anywhere near as well as pcie cards

digital finch
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Cool thanks, what about wifi 5 wifi 6. Does that mean I need a wireless router that supports these features?

sacred obsidian
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but you also gotta be careful cause there are some bad pcie cards too

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ima be honest idk what wifi 5 or wifi 6 means

digital finch
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Ah ic. I see it as a selling feature on some pcie cards

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Would this be a viable option for a pcie card?

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Does a mobo limit what sort of pcie card you can use.. or does it just have to have the pcie port

sacred obsidian
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it doesnt really matter in this context, as long as it has the pcie port and the usb port for it to connect to it should be fine

digital finch
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Or do they all generally come as a pcie x1

sacred obsidian
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but im not entirely sure on that brand but it looks fine to me on paper .-.

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im not actually great with wifi cards i just know pcie is much better than usb

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but theres other things that could cause disconnects too

digital finch
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Cool, good to know thanks! Also sorry @glass laurel for jumping into your question there.

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So I have a WiFi adapter because my router is to far away to use Ethernet but this started happening recently I will connect to the WiFi and then it will just disconnect me for like 2-3 minutes let’s say it does this every minute pretty much
@glass laurel

sand falcon
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It has to have at least a pcie x1 slot open, but you can put it in other length slots

glass laurel
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It’s a usb

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Sorry my phone died

sacred obsidian
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its all good

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i would check your drivers and see if you could update them but id also look into getting a pcie adapter. It could solve your problem but it will also help you get better internet speeds over wifi and better connectivity

glass laurel
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Do you have any recommendations for pcie adapters?

sacred obsidian
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do you know what internet speed you should be getting?

glass laurel
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I have 200 mb internet rn

sacred obsidian
analog hearth
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Speed doesn’t matter much. It’s the version that matters (whether it’s a 2.4GHz router or a 5GHz router)

sacred obsidian
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both should support both tho

analog hearth
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That’ll be fine then

limber vigil
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is there a way someone can make a parts list for under 1.5k? if can dm me plz

sand falcon
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Totally possible

cloud drum
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is Legend the highest role you can obtain thru levels?

fast dust
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Yes

deep skiff
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yeah

cloud drum
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and levels is just given for talking in chat?

analog hearth
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Yes

fast dust
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Uh huh

cloud drum
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i see

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where do you check your levels?

deep skiff
cloud drum
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is it worth replacing this or waiting

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nvm

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id rather wait

fast dust
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I wouldn’t if it works for you rn

cloud drum
#

yah it works fine

#

i just got the itch to replace for some reason

fast dust
#

Haha yeah I get that

#

I want to upgrade my case, fans, and GPU and I only built like 4 months ago

cloud drum
#

my friend said i was impatient and shouldve waited for next gen

#

maybe he was right

fast dust
#

You have 1st gen Ryzen?

cloud drum
#

i got a 3600

#

idk what 1st gen is

fast dust
#

What CPU?

cloud drum
#

ryzen 5 3600

fast dust
#

Oh nah 3600 is solid

cloud drum
#

I had a 1400

fast dust
#

You’re totally fine

cloud drum
#

and that was ass

fast dust
#

1400 not as solid but still okay for plain gaming

cloud drum
#

I bought a pre built from cyberpower and it said 1600 cpu but got 1400 instead

fast dust
#

Prebuilt Cringe

cloud drum
#

didnt realize this until a two years later when i went back and read the order details

fast dust
#

So sad

cloud drum
#

at the time it saved me money

#

cuz it was good for its value

fast dust
#

No SSD Cringe

#

Sell me your 1060 3gb

#

Jk

cloud drum
#

i still have it

fast dust
#

Did you upgrade?

fast dust
#

Or are you still using it

cloud drum
#

this is what i have now

#

yah i basicly upgarded

#

the case is just a price holder

deep skiff
#

okay that gpu price is kinda wacky

fast dust
#

Oh wow you made a lot of upgrades

cloud drum
#

i paid 450 for the gpu

#

pp doesnt update prices

fast dust
#

Good for you on all the upgrades

cloud drum
#

thanks

#

it open my eyes

#

i bought it not knowing how to remove anything

#

now i have some knowledge

deep skiff
#

good for you :)

cloud drum
wooden viper
#

Does honey work for pc parts?

desert gulch
#

Watch their add lol

jagged ember
#

Just go on the site and try it really

desert gulch
#

Honey hasn't helped me find any deals, so I deleted it

fast dust
#

Same

little osprey
#

honey saved me over 15% for fifteen minutes on pc insurance

potent prairie
#

It works sometimes

jagged ember
#

Just keep buying more things lmao

potent prairie
#

It doesn't often work on Amazon and eBay

jagged ember
#

This is true

little leaf
#

saved me 85 on newegg

jagged ember
#

shop on newegg, friends

spiral flax
#

can somebody link me the best prebuilt pc for 1100-1300

silk estuary
#

Build your own

  1. most likely better specs
  2. most likely the same price for said specs
    altho in this market the impossible is known to happen
  3. the satisfaction
spiral flax
#

ik im going to build my own pc but my friend wants a good pre built lol

#

cause he doesnt have time

jagged ember
#

just get someone to build it for him?

sand falcon
#

Build it for your friend to practice for yours

jagged ember
#

or that, yeah

spiral flax
#

aight

#

good idea lol

#

can anybody create me a good pcparts list for 1100-1300 dollars

#

a lot of corsair would be appreciated

#

also a lot of rgb

#

mostly for gaming

#

super light streaming and homework

little leaf
#

wtf is it with everyone and corsair

spiral flax
#

juicy

little leaf
#

ITS WASTED FUK#ING MONEY

spiral flax
#

no

deep skiff
#

at least waste it on noctua if ur getting fans

little leaf
#

yes it is

spiral flax
#

ai but bois give me a pc parts list

little leaf
#

corsair is a waste of money

#

@deep skiff hey also can you find me a cheapish mobo for a 1600af while I make him a list?

deep skiff
#

dude it’s 1am lemme sleep

sand falcon
#

BitCoin, no avoid filter!

little leaf
#

😦

#

Fine

#

gn nachos

deep skiff
#

gn love_it

silk estuary
#

I love my corsair ram

spiral flax
#

will i need extra case fans @little leaf ?

silk estuary
#

Not wasted money in my opinion

little leaf
#

@spiral flax prob but its like 40 for a pack of 3 so you can keep 2 and the extra corsair controller

spiral flax
#

so only 2 extra?

little leaf
#

you need one extra

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you can put 2 extra, if you want better airflow

spiral flax
little leaf
#

orrrr you can keep 2 and the controller and keep the controller

#

no

spiral flax
#

why not

#

😭

little leaf
#

if he wants a better streaming experiece go nvidia

spiral flax
#

oh yeah i was going to switch the 5700xt with 2060 super

little leaf
#

don't need fan splitters because the corsair case comes with a corsair rgb fan hub

#

ok no

#

get a 2070s

#

the ram is overpirced and not 3600

stoic island
#

I want to make list but too tired so all I'll say is b550 ds3h and hdv works, keep mp34 in mind, and 3600mhz cl16 ram

little leaf
#

that ssd is too much for the price at the moment

#

@stoic island ye

stoic island
#

Prob dif case, don't need fan splitters

little leaf
#

an mp34 is only 111 rn

stoic island
#

Really? For 1tb?

#

It was 127$ like an hour ago

little leaf
#

oh nvm its 127 again

stoic island
#

Lol

#

I might be back if I can't sleep.

@little leaf now make those changes into a list :p

#

Td 500 mesh black still in stock last I checked

little leaf
#

sorry in a game rn will do it rn

stoic island
#

Do it whenever possible

#

I slep now

little leaf
#

slep gn

#

@stoic island but he wanted corsair rgb I think

spiral flax
#

just want it too look sexy and be a beast

bold turret
#

guys were should i put the cables for the amd cooler in the motherboard?

eager chasm
#

@bold turret which cooler?

bold turret
#

ill dm u

eager chasm
#

Stealth, spire, prism?

bold turret
#

the one with ryzen 7 3700x

eager chasm
#

So prism

bold turret
#

ye i think

little leaf
#

there should be a usb powerheader for rgb

eager chasm
#

You plug the fan into the CPU fan header buy for the RGB you only use one of the 2 other cables

little leaf
#

plug it into a usb prob

#

or there should be a rgb header that you can also plug in

eager chasm
#

You only want to use the USB header for RGB

little leaf
#

You can use either one , but don't use both together

bold turret
#

whats the difference with each other

eager chasm
#

The USB header will allow for addressable RGB

#

The other will do basic color

bold turret
#

usb then

#

can i call u?

eager chasm
#

No I'm at work

bold turret
#

f

eager chasm
#

If your MB doesn't have a special USB header near the cooler for the prism then you route the cable around the back and connect it to a header in the bottom of the board

#

Since there is generally a GPU between the cooler and the bottom

coarse coral
bold turret
#

some one dm me asap for tesing the mob

subtle halo
#

deleted sad tldr

analog pulsar
#

lol

#

i read it

analog hearth
#

@little osprey is that a trigger trombone?

little osprey
#

@analog hearth haha I wish man, it's just a regular one

analog hearth
#

I got one. I didn't buy it (parents did). I don't regret begging for one lmfao

#

it's a fun instrument

little osprey
#

Ye

grand basin
#

So i just reset my computer what drivers do i need to install?

fast dust
#

Motherboard, graphics card

#

Sound card if you have one

grand basin
#

Gpu one is geforce experience right

buoyant flame
#

yes

grand basin
#

ok

#

@buoyant flame i installed the geforce experience drivers and it updated but its still looks a bit different

#

idk if thats just me thinking it tho

buoyant flame
#

what looks different?

grand basin
#

idk the graphics idk

buoyant flame
#

its probably fine lol

grand basin
#

lol

#

how do i find the MSI drivers

buoyant flame
#

For what?

#

motherboard?

grand basin
#

my mobo

buoyant flame
#

Manufacter website

#

what board you got?

grand basin
#

msi x570 gaming edge wifi

grand basin
#

Install all of those?

buoyant flame
#

No

grand basin
buoyant flame
#

Tbh, your system is probably fine with the drivers windows found but if you want, you can install the most recent chipset, lan, and audio drivers

grand basin
#

Not all of them?

buoyant flame
#

Don't really need to but theres no harm in doing it

grand basin
#

and since i reset my computer will i have to update the ram again? last time i had to install dragon center and turn the ram to the proper amount

buoyant flame
#

update?

grand basin
#

like My ram is 3600 i think

#

and it doesnt automatically go to that

buoyant flame
#

did you enable xmp?

grand basin
#

whats that

buoyant flame
#

its a setting in the bios

#

that puts the ram to the advertised speed

grand basin
#

No i didnt

#

idk how to do that

buoyant flame
#

select enabled on the xmp drop down

grand basin
#

how do i boot into bios

#

and do i need to open the mobo driver files?

#

or leave it just downloaded

buoyant flame
#

restart pc and you either hold the del or f2 key, but sometimes itll tell you which one to press

grand basin
#

ok so restart

#

and hold del

buoyant flame
#

So, somebody just came to my house and I gtg, may @cursive wharf can help

grand basin
#

ok

stoic island
#

Hei best help

grand basin
#

Ok so I booted into bios

#

It’s already at 3600

#

So the reset didn’t change it Ig

cursive wharf
#

Still in bed on my phone, so can kinda help

#

But afaik it was just a Win reset which doesn't touch BIOS. So BIOS settings, like XMP, will stay the same

grand basin
#

I tried to reset everything cause i had a keylogger/virus on my computer

#

and for the mobo drivers do i need to open the file or is just downloading it fine?

cursive wharf
#

You'll need to open the files and run some exe/msi file from it

stoic island
#

Usually called like setup

grand basin
stoic island
#

Did you extract the folder?

#

Unzip?

grand basin
#

do i have to do that on all of them?

#

@stoic island

stoic island
#

Dew it

grand basin
#

?

cursive wharf
#

Yes

grand basin
#

your name is so trippy Hei lmfao

sullen spoke
#

lol

cursive wharf
#

Yep, just been keeping like that for the meme

sullen spoke
#

i forgot who did that, forks maybe?

grand basin
cursive wharf
#

Yeah. Was some mobile glitch and forks changed it to be cross platform glitch

stoic island
#

Yus

#

Lol

grand basin
#

ok i restarted

#

So why is the watermark not here?

#

theres no windows watermark

#

@cursive wharf so if i had a keylogger/virus on my computer but i nuked it its gone right

#

i deleted everything but windows is still with my key

cursive wharf
#

That can sometimes be stored in BIOS, which windows may have done temparily

grand basin
#

but the hack isnt on my computer anymore right

#

cause i wiped everything

cursive wharf
#

Unlikely. Very few malicious programs can stay through that. But it is still possible

#

Can never really give a 100% certainty with these issues sasly

silk estuary
#

Why do you have a virus in the first place >->

fast dust
#

What did he download doe?

little leaf
#

The virus or the driverss?

latent storm
#

hey i’m just looking for a 128gb like uhh usb thumb drive, is there any brand in particular i should stay away from?

analog hearth
#

just stick to the main brands: Lexar, SanDisk, etc.

stoic island
#

Samsung

sand falcon
#

I've had issues with sandisk

latent storm
#

alrighty cool thanks

jade lantern
#

Any recommended parts for a $500 gaming pc that can run most games?

pastel willow
#

Yeah if any one can help that would be great if it will greatly improve proformance I am flexible

#

I want to be be able to play mount and blade banner lord

#

And most every thing else at 1080 with good frame rates

wary geode
#

@jade lantern i would say im good at budget builds

shadow pond
#

Hey guys

#

I have a build and I’m not sure if 550W is enough or not

#

The estimated is 400w

#

But is it accurate?

shadow mango
#

so my friend has a dvi and a hdmi and the hdmi was working and the dvi wasnt so i told her to go into the monitor setting and change it to dvi on that monitor she did and it turned the hdmi off

#

on the other monitor

grand basin
#

@cursive wharf ever since i reset it seems like my files are corrupting lol, i was playing csgo and then all of the sudden one of the files disabled or something and vac kicked me also discord randomly corrupted

modern shadow
#

@shadow pond what is your build like?

#

I need specifics to estimate

shadow pond
#

@modern shadow I can’t share the link here

modern shadow
#

Dm me

#

Cuz you need to talk more

shadow mango
#

so can anyone help me

little leaf
#

@shadow pond whats tge parts?

#

@jade lantern it is possible but I recommend a 600 dollar budget

#

500 would have to get used parts

oak moss
#

@little osprey what desk is that?

little osprey
#

wooden desk i found on amazon

#

it was like 70 bucks

#

?

#

@cloud drum

#

yes

modern shadow
#

My pc is turning off without warning. I just recently applied thermal paste and it also happens when I dont play a game. What can I do to prevent that?

little osprey
#

yeah dms

rough hawk
olive kraken
#

Hey guys idk if this is the most appropriate chat. But I just had a few questions on how to de/un build a computer. Reverse engineer whatever it's called

bold rune
#

if i get a mobo that has on board ethernet and says 1 x 1000 Mbit/s is that good enough ? so if i do a speed test and my wifi plan is 200 mbps , will the 1x1000mbit be able to run up to 200 mbps on a speed test?

analog hearth
#

gamer

little leaf
#

@bold rune what lol

silver bolt
#

Need a recommendation for a WiFi card. Due to current living arrangements I can’t do Ethernet.

silk estuary
#

My motherboard has an m.2 Wi-Fi slot so I just used that up

#

kek

keen depot
#

Uh

#

Someone wanna explain to me

#

Why Amazon is selling 3600s for 56 bucks

#

Pcpp messed up?

spiral zealot
#

it's a real listing, but it's from a 3rd party seller with a 1 star rating

#

so most definitely a scam

#

every other listing is up at the current 175-180+ price

#

i can guarantee it's a BS listing, you pay, you get nothing

#

see that kind of thing allll the time on ebay as well

#

CPUs and things going for a fraction of the market price, from a seller with like 4 feedback

#

and none of it recent

potent prairie
#

Well, if it is you can just A-Z claim em

spiral zealot
#

yeah

#

buyer protection and all that

potent prairie
#

No point wasting your time if everyone who left feedback says it's a scam tho

spiral zealot
#

lol, nothing but 1 star reviews for that seller until today, and suddenly 2 5 star reviews in a row

silk estuary
#

What's weird is it seems like they "sold" thermostats

rough loom
#

yea i wouldnt buy that

silk estuary
#

Neither would I

white osprey
#

hey can anybody help me with a pc build thats better or on par with this laptop

#

budget is about 1300

stoic island
white osprey
#

tysm

stoic island
#

can save more if you strictly need it under 1300

white osprey
#

is this about as good as it gets?

#

i dont much about cpus

stoic island
#

10600k+2070s yea that's about as good as you can get

white osprey
#

so how does this one perform?

#

will it be cool enough?

stoic island
#

Yes

white osprey
#

psu good?

#

sorry for asking so much

#

just need to be sure

stoic island
#

Yes

white osprey
#

so

#

just to be clear

#

i just need to build it

#

install the drivers

#

and thats it ?

stoic island
#

Windows 10 installation

#

then drivers

#

and yea

white osprey
#

free version right?

stoic island
#

you could

#

or get a 3$ ebay key

#

both works

white osprey
#

for drivers is it just gpu?

stoic island
#

GPU drivers is the only one you NEED to get

white osprey
#

what other drivers?

stoic island
#

everything else is on motherboard manufacturer's website

#

Chipset drivers, audio drivers, lan drivers, whatever else

white osprey
#

how important are those?

severe bloom
#

Windows will install default drivers for most of those things so no need, if AMD though should try the chipset drivers directly from them

white osprey
#

its intel

#

so about the windows key for 3 bucks

#

im looking at in on ebay

#

dude has like 1 review

#

should i just buy it anyway

severe bloom
#

If its just 3 bucks no big deal if it doesn't work can get another for $5 lol

stoic island
#

get it when you build it

#

yea

#

it's usually like 3$

white osprey
#

so

#

will it ask for a code or something

#

and i put the code ?

stoic island
#

windows yea

stoic island
#

I wouldn't get it :P

#

27in 1080p isn't great

white osprey
#

this one?

#

or is ther a 1440p that isnt much more expensive

stoic island
#

1440p hell no

#

1440p 144hz you need 300$ at least

white osprey
#

welp

#

what about the acer one

stoic island
#

that's decent I guess, new 1080p144hz monitors are about 160$ usually

white osprey
#

decent i guess?

silk estuary
#

at the $300 price point I might as well just get a tv

white osprey
#

is there anything wrong with it

#

in particular

stoic island
#

it's TN

#

not great

silk estuary
#

4k tv i mean

white osprey
#

what preferred?

stoic island
#

back ordered but example

#

TN is frowned upon, VA is good, IPS is great.

white osprey
#

big dif between va and ips?

stoic island
#

not really

#

just better colors

white osprey
#

do u have an estimation when that monitor will be in stock?

#

or another example of that one

#

thats i can buy soon

#

im not gonna start buying until about another week

stoic island
#

specs look fine

white osprey
#

alright

#

i really appreciate the help

olive kraken
#

So, I got a job recently and I spent the whole day cleaning PCs and what not and the director asked me if I thought the PCs could run + stream the latest popular games at 60 FPS +

#

They are a bunch of prebuilts but from what I see they have 2700s 8 GB 2666 DDR4 and 1060s think I should tell boss to look for upgrades or nah?

#

My question, do yall think they can run and stream something like Warzone at 60FPS+ or upgrade and if so what to upgrade?

spiral zealot
#

running at 1080p?

jagged ember
#

you'd probably need low settings

spiral zealot
#

the 2700 will hold up reasonably well, but you probably want to upgrade to faster ram and maybe like 1660TI/Super level GPU

jagged ember
#

yep

spiral zealot
#

2666 is slooooow for a ryzen, Zen+ wants faster ram

olive kraken
#

@spiral zealot yes running at 1080p

spiral zealot
#

do you know what his budget would be to upgrade?

olive kraken
#

I thought so, I suggested faster ram and a 2x8 kit for future proof

spiral zealot
#

yeah, 16GB of 3000/3200 would be solid

#

and if he has the budget, 1660S would be what i'd recommend

olive kraken
#

To be honest he said, "don't worry about the budget we just want our division to have a good experience with the machines"

jagged ember
#

then perfect

#

3200 16gb ram with a 1660S

spiral zealot
#

yep

#

that should handle 1080p60 and streaming

jagged ember
spiral zealot
#

and he can ebay the old hardware to recoup some costs

#

or give it to you lol

jagged ember
#

lmao true

#

just run them in SLI and overclock them

olive kraken
#

Yeh, i forgot to mention but they have a like an MSi x470 performance gaming

spiral zealot
#

i would recommend he ebay the old hardware though, 2666 ram is in demand for intel systems, and if they're 1060 6gb cards, people will snatch those up real quick for budget builds

olive kraken
#

Mobo

jagged ember
#

x470 is fine

olive kraken
#

Thanks guys, I'll make sure to share my ideas

jagged ember
#

yeah chauntalei definitely has more experience on ebay than i do

olive kraken
#

The worst part I think is that one of them was running with 1 exhaust fan no intake and with the ram sticks in the wrong position

spiral zealot
#

leave that part out in the ebay description 😛

olive kraken
#

I felt bad for whoever used that one XD

#

The Dust accumulation was disgusting to say the least

jagged ember
#

shhh

#

they don't need to know

olive kraken
#

Yeh, also this may not be the right chat but, you guys know how to work with capture cards?

#

He mentioned streaming in the consoles some games but I've never streamed in a console to my PC so I dunno

spiral zealot
#

no experience with that myself

sullen spoke
#

hdmi output signal from source into capture card

jagged ember
#

nope, have been using my phone as a webcam

#

but it should just show up in obs as a uh

#

capture source

sullen spoke
#

capture card goes in pc, like pcie or something

jagged ember
#

from what little i know

olive kraken
#

alright, thanks for that info. too :0

wanton crystal
#

Question
First time builder btw
So I have started to get in some of my pc components
So far I have my case, psu, motherboard, fans. I do not have a cpu or ram yet. Can I start hooking some stuff up to see if it works? Like if I hook everything I have up currently will my fans even come on?

#

And the reason for me asking is just to start making sure what I have so far works so if I need to replace anything I can

desert anvil
#

i just finished my first build
my case (corsair 220t airflow) comes with a preinstalled rgb fanhub
theres 1 cable that comes out of and im not sure where to put it into my motherboard (b450 tomahawk max)

wet fern
#

If I plug a flash drive in to my pc with Dban on it, will it start dban or could I clear that flash drive

severe bloom
#

@desert anvil it should plug into the USB 2.0 header on the mother board

keen depot
#

Suggestions on how to run power to the graphics card if I have a PSU shroud?

slate thistle
#

Why so many versions of gpus now lol this stuff confuses me a bit

#

why are some 2070 super variants more expensive than some 2080 super variants?

jagged ember
#

well, because a 2080S is more powerful than a 2070S

slate thistle
#

Right, So just a larger shroud and heat sink is the coat justification? A 2070s ftw3 is still inferior to any 2080 right?

#

Cost**

jagged ember
#

2070s is basically a 2080

#

but a 2070S is not a 2080S

slate thistle
#

And about the same level of variance between a 2080s and a ti ?

jagged ember
#

the smol performance boost for an S vs a TI isn't worth the price

slate thistle
#

Yeah. I’m looking at 2080s refurbs for very nice prices

#

Considering jumping the gun and putting my 2070s in my wife’s pc

jagged ember
#

ooh spicy

#

wish i had bought one of those

slate thistle
#

She was going to get like a 1660

jagged ember
#

1660S, at least

slate thistle
#

Yeah I just didn’t feel like budgeting her pc, I use it too lol

jagged ember
#

eh that's fair

slate thistle
#

I accidentally ordered a incorrect mobo a few months ago

#

I figured I’d make something of it lol

jagged ember
#

lmao

finite remnant
#

He guys
I have a build

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor

MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive

Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card

I find a lot of PSU, but it doesn't have 4-pin, so is 4-pin important?

sand falcon
#

For the 3600, no

finite remnant
#

Good

And the estimated watt is 404, so is 550W enough?

tranquil bobcat
#

Is a Meshify Define S2 for $50 a good local deal?

sand falcon
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550 Should be enough, but might as well get more

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That's a decent price for the case

finite remnant
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Thanks

sand falcon
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What PSU are you looking at? Some of them have a tendancy of blowing up

finite remnant
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Cooler master mwe 550 v2

sand falcon
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Good one

finite remnant
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First, I look up for cooler master mwe 650 v2 but I didn't find it, so I saw cooler master mwe 550 v2, but it have 4-pin problem which you told me it's not problem

rocky kayak
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is 8gb ram still good?

sand falcon
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Depends

rocky kayak
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Depends
@sand falcon on what? i might be getting a b450 and a ryzen 2600 but idk does that help?

sand falcon
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Will you be gaming?

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Why you keep doing that theo

rocky kayak
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yes i will be gaming

sand falcon
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If you're gaming, I would recommend 16GB

rocky kayak
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okay thanks

little leaf
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@finite remnant a txm would be better for the price imo

finite remnant
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Thanks

little leaf
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The one you showed me eas bronze and the same wattage as a tmx

bold turret
tepid basalt
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just download the latest one

arctic jungle
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^ unless ur doing something shady to ur gpu... @bold turret

bold turret
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what u mean shady like?

arctic jungle
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lmao it's a joke, but if ur serious, I mean screwing around with gpu direct control, maybe trying to run way old os with a modern card etc

sullen spoke
analog hearth
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9900K 2080Ti for MS DOS games

brave oracle
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sigh HELP me I game of a mac

silk estuary
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No one can help you then

jagged ember
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9900K 2080Ti for MS DOS games
16K 9123749fps for pong

finite remnant
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Hi guys,

Is Antec power supply good?

next kestrel
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which one?

finite remnant
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Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN

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700 W

fast dust
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@finite remnant check the pins. In the pins there’s a power supply tier list. Find that model there and see how good it is.

finite remnant
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I checked it with my motherboard and it's appropriate with pins

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But I don't know this company if it good or not

fast dust
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With power supplies you need to know the quality. Companies make good models and bad models

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Just because it will work doesn’t mean it’s good.

finite remnant
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How do I know if it good or not?

fast dust
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The Neo Eco M Gold is good according to that list

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Look on it

still roostBOT
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Yams#9651 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

fast dust
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Excuse me?

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I was explaining when to buy what on the tier list ):

desert gulch
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I think you said 'good' three times so that counts as a duplicate?

fast dust
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Maybe

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I spent a lot of time typing it though 😞

arctic jungle
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lemme try

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good good good

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nope

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@fast dust @desert gulch

fast dust
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This is unfair

next kestrel
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i mean i got a hec psu lets see if this thing explodes

supple sundial
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Can someone suggest cheap build for games around 1000£

buoyant flame
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3600 and 2060 super

next kestrel
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if any are in stock then 3300x and 2070 super

buoyant flame
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Good luck finding a 3300x in stock tho

fast dust
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@next kestrel OOOH which one? I just bought a HEC PSU for a flip and know it’s quality. Which one?

spiral zealot
normal sail
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Ok @spiral zealot thnx 4 ur help

spiral zealot
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little over budget, but a solid starting point

normal sail
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My budget would've been $1.5k but I'm getting a MacBook Pro and this is just for my first build

potent prairie
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oof. apple

spiral zealot
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they have their place lol

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i used a 13" mbp as my side laptop for travel and light use on the couch and stuff

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until i bought a ryzen laptop >_>

potent prairie
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There are chromebooks for that

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if you want a real laptop use a windows laptop, if you want a light browser, chromeOS

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If you're made of money and don't game, Apple...

normal sail
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I'm a yter

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I need a good editing computer

potent prairie
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There is adobe, but I guess I can understand not paying the adobe premium

normal sail
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AND I need something to flex with

spiral zealot
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any personal gripes about Apple aside, just don't buy one of the new MacBook Air models, they thermal throttle like crazy

sullen spoke
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adobe epic

potent prairie
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There it is lol

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Apple = status symbol

normal sail
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Very true lol

potent prairie
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Same with beats

sullen spoke
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adobe + apple = status symbol 😎

potent prairie
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Lol

sullen spoke
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beats just plain suck

normal sail
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THATS EVEN BETTER

potent prairie
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I'd prefer a threadripper PC for a status symbol

sullen spoke
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nah

potent prairie
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I mean it only really works with us nerds ig

spiral zealot
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threadripper yes pls

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that is totally my kind of flex

potent prairie
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Yeah lol. That and rgb

spiral zealot
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mad TR system, and then play minecraft on it

sullen spoke
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apple mac pro with amd epyc cpu best

normal sail
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The price will also be epic

sand falcon
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Probably not going to happen 😦

spiral zealot
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i forgot how much a TR system, even first gen, still costs to build

sand falcon
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On the bright side, I have confirmed that minecraft servers can run on arm

sullen spoke
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use intel to amd socket adapter brainlet

potent prairie
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Lol

spiral zealot
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i was like 'oh i'll build a cheap TR 1st gen system just cause' and the price list pushed well past 1k REAL QUICK

potent prairie
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I could have probably gone 1st or 2nd gen threadripper if I gave up some rgb

spiral zealot
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i'm just broke lmao

magic bough
spiral zealot
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missing part of the URL

magic bough
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What would the best motherboard be for it

spiral zealot
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I mean, if it's in your budget to keep that board, you're fine. it'll support ryzen 4th gen when it comes out, it has pci-e 4.0 support, etc