building-and-recc-chat

[somber surge]

i even asked him if he wanted and

and

amd

and he said he likes intel so im doing what he wants

[potent prairie]

970 evo isn't the best value.

[somber surge]

oh aight

what would you suggest for a 500 gb ssd?

[potent prairie]

Mp34 is much cheaper and slight faster write, tho read is a good bit lower

Curently lik $67

[somber surge]

oh

ok

what about the crucial p1

[potent prairie]

It's a good bit slower than the mp34 and 970

2000/1700 vs 3000/2600 for the mp34

(r/w in MB/s)

Sabrent rocket is another cheaper option with good speeds

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KGMBCKD/ref=twister_B085GG5QDR?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

$20 less for 3400/3000

[somber surge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r7PqzN

hows that

[mortal rampart]

is there a reason for those fans??

[somber surge]

he wants rgb, plus i think the case only comes with one

for better airflow, and he wants rgb

[mortal rampart]

theres cheaper cooler master fans

same size

[somber surge]

he wants rgb though

[mortal rampart]

for like $10 less

[potent prairie]

I think it's pretty solid. There may be more value oriented SSDs, but i think the rocket is a good compromise

Make sure the rgb is the same ecosytem/ can be controlled with the same software

[mortal rampart]

yeah they're rgb

[somber surge]

yeah ok

lets see

[mortal rampart]

they're called the sickleflow

[somber surge]

aight

but they dont look as good

[mortal rampart]

ok >.<

also why not just get a 10th gen

or does that require a newer mb?

[potent prairie]

10 gen intel has a new socket, yes

[mortal rampart]

okok thought so

cause the 10th gen part is like $20 more

mini itx with a lot of rgb

hehe

its gonna be a qt

[potent prairie]

Yeah, it would be like $40 more for a 10th gen mobo and cpu

[mortal rampart]

oh

get that

my mans budget already sky high

[little leaf]

@somber surge Why not a 9700k

More perf for not much more

[ripe wind]

Should recommend purchasing an actual gaming monitor or should i continue using my tv haha

[little leaf]

@ripe wind whats your system?

[somber surge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2CyzTC

Ta da @little leaf

[little leaf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qzhpwh also @somber surge

Wait is the a itx build @somber surge

Because even with intels newest and rgb fans

You could get an air cooler, but then your sacrificing athstetics

[spiral flax]

whats better a 5700xt or a 2060 super

[potent prairie]

@pearl shore Is that rog bling part of your case?

[mortal rampart]

@spiral flax they're about the same

just get whichever one is cheaper ig

and if you stream then nvidia

[spiral flax]

ok

[austere condor]

i built the PC for $3500

[sharp perch]

How much did you spend

Wow

Hmm

[austere condor]

i bought the CPU for $900 used

they were $2000 new

motherboard was $200

[sharp perch]

What do you think I can get for 2k and maybe the rest on stuff like monitors and headset and keyboard

[austere condor]

ram was $300

10700k / 3700x
16/32GB ram
RTX 2080 super

for like $2k

with fancy stuff

[sharp perch]

Which store

Or online

[austere condor]

online

[sharp perch]

I usually use my country websites

@austere condor I thought maybe Azerty is a good website is that good?

Ping me

[buoyant flame]

What camera did you get @austere condor

[fast dust]

Yeah the picture quality is incredible

[austere condor]

Canon M50

[whole dawn]

@austere condor What desk is that in your setup?

[buoyant flame]

Nice

I got a sl2 but I can never take pictures that look as good as yours

Do you edit your photos or are they all raw?

[little osprey]

Anyone here has pc building experience

Most of us, probably.

[buoyant flame]

Yep

[serene obsidian]

Thanks Kisuske and Night for the list. Also Kisuske what are some of the cases you had in mind? That would be a huge help

[mortal rampart]

you lookin for some nice airflow?

something flashy

whats your preference?

@serene obsidian

just a general question

[buoyant flame]

Td500 mesh

Boom done

[mortal rampart]

exactly

what i did

td500 mesh gang

would yall get a xeon quad or hexacore?

the hexa is like $50 more tho

they both clock in at around the same

[buoyant flame]

I don't know much about Xeons ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[mortal rampart]

neither do i lmao

[serene obsidian]

Airflow would definitely be the focus

[sterile wave]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/p7LRPn

thoughts?

more ram will be added later

[fast dust]

That’s a very expensive motherboard

But looks solid to me after a quick glance

[sterile wave]

i spent at least 2 hours trying to pickout a mobo

[fast dust]

@mortal rampart which two models are you debating against?

Oh wait it’s Canadian currency

Nah that’s fine my bad

Looks very solid

[stoic island]

Interesting cooler

[fast dust]

[sterile wave]

building it for friend, he said he preferred air

[stoic island]

I mean

[sterile wave]

this one seemed pretty decent

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stoic island]

U14s is kinda a weird spot

[fast dust]

Still a decent cooler doe

[stoic island]

oh wait

gotta check smth

hmm

yea

[fast dust]

yea

[stoic island]

Why not like d15s

Meshify c can fit that

[sterile wave]

i was thinking about it, and i think there might actually be ram clearance issues

[stoic island]

pcpp was being weird because of my list that I had

not with d15s

d15 maybe

[sterile wave]

o

they are 2 different things hmm

[stoic island]

With NH-D15s unless it's an ITX mobo with the ram right up against the socket it prob won't have ram clearance issues

[sterile wave]

would u think its needed?

[stoic island]

Pricing is off tho

3900x might as well get bit more cooling

[sterile wave]

i dont think he'll be doing extreme overclocking

oh yeah

[stoic island]

not needed

but could get a bit more

[sterile wave]

i also read that u14s has the cooling pipes aligned with 3900x die

so it might actually cool better

than d15

[stoic island]

?

[sterile wave]

that was just a reddit post

idk how accurate that would be

lemme find the link

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/d06i9j/will_the_noctua_nhu14s_be_enough_for_3900x/

[stoic island]

I'll have to check their sources but afterall the coldplate is a plate either way

thats the d15s

[sterile wave]

heres an interesting twitter thread about it

https://twitter.com/tekwendell/status/1175591587721728001?s=21

wendell (@tekwendell)

Several users on the forum have reported the same. However if you already have the NH-D15 YOU ARE FINE, I promise. My D15 is in use in another machine I shant tear down to retest to be sure, though. p.s. easier to spot this after both coolers have been "heat soaked" for a whi...

Twitter

[cursive wharf]

overpriced build
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/JFBngJ

[stoic island]

I'll have to follow up later, but with a cold plate I don't know how much it would matter in contrast to directly to the heatpipe

[clever pike]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/cL9K9G

[fast dust]

@cursive wharf he had 32gb before

Probably a reason for that

[stoic island]

@cursive wharf Got any ideas on the heatpipe orientation?

[clever pike]

u could mby try save in other places and get the ti?

just an idea

[cursive wharf]

@sterile wave can save about $250 CAD with the build I did
@fast dust tis was 16GB in the latest build he listed
@stoic island iirc GN did a thing and it didnt matter

[stoic island]

yay more videos to check later

[sterile wave]

referring to me? from 2080S to 2080ti? thats like a $600 CAD differential rn

prices do be sucking

[fast dust]

Oh shoot I read it wrong Hei my bad

I do that too much

[clever pike]

I thought u could get one for like $1200-$1300?

[sterile wave]

maybe second hand, not brand new from retailers i checked

it used to be 1.2-1.3k yeah

but corona

[celest horizon]

Heatpipe/cooler orientation matter more for intel high core count desktop

[cursive wharf]

CAD prices tho, $640 CAD difference or so with 2080S vs 2080Ti

[clever pike]

oh god well in that case prices rly do suck

[celest horizon]

Same with waterblock / jetplate orientation

[sterile wave]

[clever pike]

mboards prices in the u.s are so so bad rn

[stoic island]

whats with the repeats in the selection? :P

[cursive wharf]

either way, still can save $250-ish with this build Day
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/JFBngJ

[clever pike]

besides the tomohawwk

[sterile wave]

yeah im lookin

i was wondering how much of a difference does bdie ram make

thats the only reason i chose the more expensive kit

i was looking to overclock the kit

[cursive wharf]

@stoic island dont ask me, ask pcpp as to why it lists multiple listings of the same item

[stoic island]

If you really want to oc ram, b die.

lol

[celest horizon]

what kit did you get

[cursive wharf]

tho, there is EX920/EX950

different things

[fast dust]

EX920 gang

[sterile wave]

i chose a 16 gb 3600 cl16 kit, with bdie according to bdiefinder website

[clever pike]

3200 compared to 3600 will probably give u like 5 fps but that could vary a lot

[stoic island]

oop

[clever pike]

it's also just a rough estimate

[sterile wave]

was hoping for 3733 1:1 IF

maybe tighten up timings

[stoic island]

b die is always more expensive

[sterile wave]

yeah its about $40 more

[clever pike]

aight i'm a head 2 bed gn

[viral ore]

gn

[sterile wave]

gn

[buoyant flame]

gn

[cursive wharf]

gamers nexus to you too

[celest horizon]

dual rank b-die is decently cheap rn, $200 for 2x16GB 3200 cl14 trident z

[stoic island]

indeed

Yea that was surprising

[sterile wave]

oh damn ur right

hmmm

[livid copper]

is there some kind of a help chat? built my pc and it works fine but im having a slight problem with RAM speed

[eager chasm]

(almost) Anywhere is a help chat here

[livid copper]

well, i assumed this was a place i could go to find some help so

btw, nice black desert pic lol

[eager chasm]

Thanks

[livid copper]

well, where should i ask, dont know where would be the ideal place to ask for help

[eager chasm]

Ask here :D

[buoyant flame]

Ya here is fine

[eager chasm]

What's the problem?

[livid copper]

well, i have 3600 speed ram, but i can only clock it to 3200 before my pc does a boot loop and goes into safe mod

mode*

[buoyant flame]

Did you enable xmp?

[livid copper]

yup

[eager chasm]

What CPU and MB?

[livid copper]

a 3900x and a ROG Crosshair VIII Hero

and the ram is compatible based on all the sources i went to

[eager chasm]

Ryzen will turn on and off repeatedly trying to do ram training

[livid copper]

it reboots 3 times then boots in safe mode

[eager chasm]

When it boot loops how far does it get?

[livid copper]

uhh, nowhere

it turns on for like 3 seconds then reboots

[eager chasm]

That sounds like it trying to do the ram training

[livid copper]

why only when it hits anywhere above 3200 though?

put it to anything above that and it wont post

and i got it to do "something" at 3266

which was it got stuck and i had to refresh the bios

so yeah

ryzen relies heavily on RAM speed so id like to get it to go to the correct speed

[eager chasm]

Not super heavily

[livid copper]

no, but 3200 vs 3600 is definitely a difference

[sterile wave]

depends on latency

if u can tighten to 3200 cl14

thatd be fine too

[eager chasm]

But yea depending on the kit at higher speeds for the first time the bios will turn on and off repeatedly trying to get the communication with the ram right at that speed

[livid copper]

the motherboard compatibility page says that that they managed to get it to run at 3600 on lower latency perfectly fine

i tried that... and it just froze up

had to refresh bios there as well

and this was coming from ROG's website so

[eager chasm]

What ram did you buy?

[livid copper]

Trident Z Neo

3600, 2 sticks of 16gb each

[sterile wave]

is bios up to date?

[livid copper]

yup

thats the first thing i did, and it made zero difference

[sterile wave]

have u tried the sticks separately

[eager chasm]

Or in the other slots

[livid copper]

ya, managed to get 1 to 3266

[sterile wave]

but no higher?

[livid copper]

nope

[sterile wave]

hmm interesting

[livid copper]

the other one didnt get past 3200 still

and this is at the recommended latency and voltage

i did slightly increase the voltage to see if that would do anything and it didnt

[sterile wave]

and enabling xmp sets it to 3600mhz and other settings, but it doesnt boot?

[livid copper]

yup

[eager chasm]

Let it auto the timings and voltage and set frequency to 3600 and try

[sterile wave]

^

[livid copper]

xmp does everything right?

[eager chasm]

It should cycle a few times

[livid copper]

it auto does all of that and sets the speed to 3600

and it cycles 3 times then goes into safe mode

[eager chasm]

Then keep trying, that cycling is it trying to setup the ram correctly

[livid copper]

that doesnt change, am i doing something wrong or do i need to turn off safemode so it can properly cycle or something?

how many times should i try lol

im on the pc right now so

[eager chasm]

You could just use it at 3200 you won't really notice the 5FPS difference

[sterile wave]

have u tried messing around with infinity fabric clock

[livid copper]

well, its more of the fact that its not going to the correct speed thats bugging me

not the fps lol

honestly, i dont have any idea what those are

this was my first build so i dont know much about the bios

[sterile wave]

i assume the clock should be set to auto

[livid copper]

i mean, i can boot into my bios and look

i can use discord on my phone

[sterile wave]

but after enabling xmp, try to find that setting and set the clock to 1600

[livid copper]

im just going to do that because it my help with this

just give me a second

Ok I'm in my bios

It's currently on D.O.C.P. with speed set to 3200MHz

[eager chasm]

Dopc 3600 should do it

But no idea why it isnt

[livid copper]

I set it to 3200 because it won't post at 3600

It does the reboot loop and safe boots

[eager chasm]

Maybe disconnect your boot drive so it can continue trying to cycle the loop without going into safe mode

🤔

[livid copper]

Does that work? I thought the safe boot was part of the motherboard not windows

Pretty sure it's the motherboard

[eager chasm]

I thought you meant it was booting into windows safe mode

[livid copper]

No, bios safemode

[eager chasm]

Then step it up up little by little and see if it work that way

[livid copper]

That's how I got to 3200

[eager chasm]

Did you ever try putting the ram in the other slots?

[livid copper]

It will not go above that

No, should I try slots 2 and 4?

[eager chasm]

Yes

[livid copper]

Ok give me a min

Ok, now that that's done, do I just try and boot it in 3600?

So uhh?

[eager chasm]

Yep

[livid copper]

Well damn, was that really the problem?

Uhh, let me verify real quick

Yup, that did it

Wanted to make sure it was stable

Well cool, thanks for the help!

[eager chasm]

So it's the MB

Glad it's working

[livid copper]

👍

[mortal rampart]

@fast dust the e5-1620 v2 and the e5-1650 v2

[fast dust]

I am here

[mortal rampart]

there they are

@serene obsidian https://www.newegg.com/black-montech-flyer-x-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-00CN-00009?Item=9SIAK91AX48138

this is a nice price

currently sold out

but they also have it available on amazon i believe

[fast dust]

Okay let me check it out

Btw why do you want Xeons? @mortal rampart

[mortal rampart]

a throwaway build

just to have

[fast dust]

[mortal rampart]

a lot of my friends dont have pcs and are looking ito them

*into

[fast dust]

Seems like a little waste

Is it for gaming?

Or for workstation tasks? @mortal rampart

[mortal rampart]

mm

i wanna say gaming

[fast dust]

Want to

?

[mortal rampart]

ya

[fast dust]

So gaming or no

[mortal rampart]

ya

gaming

[fast dust]

Mmmmmm

[mortal rampart]

not anything crazy

[fast dust]

There’s probably better options

[mortal rampart]

like??

[fast dust]

Xeons weren’t built for gaming

Older intel CPUs

[mortal rampart]

yes im aware

i like the cores and threads tho

[fast dust]

I7-4770k

Hold on I gotta go

[mortal rampart]

okok np

[spiral zealot]

i'm building a xeon gaming system

6c/12t

it gon slap

only targeting like 1080p60 medium/high though

i threw my back out a few days ago so i haven't worked on it at all since like monday

[lyric thistle]

Will it play games tho

Do you have to like dodge the slap every time you turn it on

[mortal rampart]

like i've seen builds with xeons and they look so sex-c

[spiral zealot]

coupling an x5675 with an rx 570, 12gb triple channel ddr 3

looked up a lot of x58 in modern day performance videos/reviews

if i can find cheap 8gb sticks, i might go up to 24gb

but trying to buy as little as possible

and just use what i have lying around

[mortal rampart]

i found an x99 mb that uses ddr4 with an nvme socket

i have nothing lying around lmao

[arctic jungle]

...

[spiral zealot]

i have a tendency to hoard for a while and then do a purge via reddit/ebay

so i'm reaching that point right now

[mortal rampart]

i would've but

corona

is stopping me

and im sad about it

[spiral zealot]

building out this x58 system and then clearing out some misc stuff i have lying around, mobos, coolers, video cards, fans, etc

i bought the case i'm using for this build locally, but we were responsible social distancers

both had lysol wipes/hand sanitizer, we stood 15 feet apart, he put the case in the middle and backed off, i went and grabbed it and left the cash on the ground, and backed off, he grabbed the money and we left in opposite directions lol

and then i wiped down the case again before loading it into my car

[mortal rampart]

i live in a small town

and i've looked for people selling but they aren't

like anything

[spiral zealot]

yeah, i had to drive up into san francisco to pick up this case because nobody around me is selling stuff

[mortal rampart]

i'll probably start looking into it again whenever i go back to school in september

[shadow mango]

i have 3 screens now lol

[fast dust]

Yeah the good thing about Xeons build is their triple channel and ECC support

[mortal rampart]

i saw lmao

[little osprey]

anyone else order stuck at Baldwin park or ?

[thorny bough]

Looking to build my first PC & doing some major upgrades

Here’s the list, lemme know what you thing:

ASUS ROG MAX XII HERO
i9-10900k
ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 2080 ti
64 GB G-skills trident Z DDR4 3200
Dual 2TB seagate barraCuda 2TB 7200 RPM HHF
Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 1 TB SSD
NZXT KRAKEN C72 360mm all in one liquid cooler n

[neat garnet]

that PC is nuts

[stoic island]

x72?

[sullen spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-tired-exhausted-gif-9595436

[mortal rampart]

does anyone have a wraith prism cooler?

my cousin just sent me his but i think im missing stuff

[little leaf]

@mortal rampart what do you have?

[mortal rampart]

he sent me just the cooler

i was watching a video on how to install it and it seems to come with a "usb" 4-pin cable for the lights

[little leaf]

Yes there should be 2 cables for rgb

[mortal rampart]

you think i could buy any

like anywhere

cause i need em' for the rgb

[shut estuary]

@little leaf my computer is like smashed my cousin smashed it

[little leaf]

@shut estuary wtfJ?

how what why when?

[shut estuary]

He got mad I think at a game called krunker I play it too but he slammed the all in one computer

It was only a 500 dollar Lenovo pre built computer

[little leaf]

lmao

[shut estuary]

Well actually it’s half broke

It’s broke to the point where u can’t use the screen

[little leaf]

lmao nice

[shut estuary]

And part of it’s messed up like u could hook it up to another monitor and play it but the fan is not cooling right

So it heats up

Also I’m 14 so I don’t got money to buy a new one

I don’t got an xbox either only my parents do

My parents also got a PS4

[little leaf]

Should make your cousin pay for it lol

[shut estuary]

They had 3 xboxes my dad who is an hour away has 2 xboxes

My cousin is broke

He’s also 14

I want to beat his as for swearing at me

I mean I have 150 dollars that it

[little leaf]

Should take him to small claims courts lol

[shut estuary]

lol

He’s small tho he’s 5’2

Which sucks is that the school gave my family 300 dollars in food stamps

300 for person

Well kid

And theirs 4 of us

So we got over 1000 dollars in food stamps

[high coyote]

Bought two Noctua NF-A12x25 PWMs 🙂 to replace my crappy 3 pin fans for my fish tank build I’m working on.

[shut estuary]

Awesome 👌

[shut estuary]

Imagine putting screens on the side to add 24 hours of fish swimming with water so it looks like a real fish tank

That looks actually awesome dude

[high coyote]

Yea it’s going out great I’m using 140 MM fans hanging for life on my 240 MM while I wait for the other ones that come tmr

[shut estuary]

Atleast it’s coming tmr

[high coyote]

Because those 120 MM weren’t just doing a good job

Yea

[thorny bough]

@stoic island what?

[shut estuary]

Lol well the computer I said didn’t work I mis worked it it does work but horrible

[high coyote]

Whenever I plug something in my fingers get slimy cause the liquid

[shut estuary]

Worded*

Damn that sucks

My pre built Lenovo computer barely runs roblox like

[thorny bough]

Looking to build my first PC & doing some major upgrades

Here’s the list, lemme know what you thing:

ASUS ROG MAX XII HERO
i9-10900k
ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 2080 ti
64 GB G-skills trident Z DDR4 3200
Dual 2TB seagate barraCuda 2TB 7200 RPM HHF
Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 1 TB SSD
NZXT KRAKEN C72 360mm all in one liquid cooler n

[high coyote]

You have the almost same specs

That’s funny

[thorny bough]

Any advice before I get everything built, literally terrified

The almost same specs?

[high coyote]

64 GB 3200 MHZ CL14?

I’m still waiting on my 10900K it’s preordered

Really shouldn’t get 2080 TI wait for the new series that’s coming soon

[shut estuary]

I’m still waiting for someone to make money trees so I can get money to make a pc

[thorny bough]

PC4 25600

[little leaf]

@thorny bough wouldn't buy yet

New gpus at q4

[thorny bough]

How much for new GPU you think?

[high coyote]

That’s what I just said about the 2080TI there coming out soon

Around the same price

[little leaf]

maybe like 100 more the gpu teir now

[high coyote]

I heard it’s going to be cheaper or the same

[thorny bough]

That’s not bad

[silent fractal]

whoever recommended the ID-COOLING SE-224-XT you are an idiot

[little leaf]

@meager fossil nivida

[ripe wedge]

nvidia and intel

[meager fossil]

ty

[ashen needle]

Planning to build a cheap entry PC for the bf, wondering how I can make this a bit more cost effective

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bxRdV7

[winter marsh]

@ashen needle looks good on paper

[spiral zealot]

you can definitely save money on the SSD

the Team MP34 512gb will save you $30 and is a great performer as well

or you can drop to the MP34 256GB since its just the boot drive, and that runs about $40-45 usually

but the 512 is the sweet spot between price/performance for that model

[winter marsh]

@ashen needle Actually it's a simular to the route I'm taking as an ugrade, but I am going with Ryzen 3800xt on a Asus B550 or X570 mobo. I think the storage and boot drive are an excellent choice for reliable performance. Except I intend to use the 1tb version, my only trouble is how the 1660 will bottleneck a Ryzen 3600. If you expand your budget by another $150.00 usd you can drop in a Rtx 2060 super, rather then upgrading to one later.

[ashen needle]

yeee I getcha

I might as well just go for a 2600/2700

but that's also true

[winter marsh]

No the 3600 is a superior cpu to both, but the 1660 even as a ti version can't keep pace with it

I'm not one to talk as I've built four fx 8350 powered pc's for the kids to save a buck

now I am planning to build four i5 3570 cpu pc for the foster kids, just so I can pair em with the Gtx 1060

it's more or less a cpu/gpu balancing act to ensure they have the same performance, however that isn't true.

I built one as a Ryzen 1500x with the same gpu and it doubles thier benchmarks due to its ddr4 ram

So I suspect the i5 3570 will out bench the fx8350 as well but to a smaller degree, but as gamers go they just wanna game and don't care about the details.

[bold turret]

Hey can some one dm me who can help to chose parts for my new stream/gaming pc

[stoic island]

Bottlenecking is arbitrary

Also what budget

[eager chasm]

Ranger has been helped

[rugged spear]

So, my packages from newegg had arrived ten minutes ago...

...and the box for my RX580 kinda has a dent.

The cardboard inside seems fine, but.. Should I test the card and see if it's working?

I don't know if I should open stuff up right now because my other parts won't arrive till end of July.

[eager chasm]

It should be fine, there is a lot of foam in that box

[rugged spear]

Okay..

[eager chasm]

But yeah it's a good idea to visually inspect your parts so if one is noticably damage you can return it now and get it back faster

[rugged spear]

Ok

[bold turret]

hey

[buoyant flame]

Yo

[bold turret]

@eager chasm

[eager chasm]

[buoyant flame]

Oh you were helping him too ryoku? Lol

[bold turret]

ye

wait i cant post links

[buoyant flame]

Oh you can't post links till level 3

[bold turret]

ree

[eager chasm]

since he needs the budget to include monitors, desk, KB, mouse, and chair I kept it as cheap as possible wile still giving a lot of performance, or tried to atleast

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/CJDYFG

[bold turret]

the one we went was the link i sent you in start justegg

[buoyant flame]

He never told me he needed those lol

[bold turret]

ops

my bad there

but those will not be more then 200-300

[buoyant flame]

Ok well I would switch that ram for a cl16 kit for ripjaws

[eager chasm]

3700X and 2070S are good target performance without breaking the budget

[buoyant flame]

Lemme get my list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cnVVK4

[eager chasm]

he picked the ram

XD

[buoyant flame]

Lol

My list is in USD so its about 2500 usd to reach his UK budget

So I'm still 400 under

[eager chasm]

just switch the region

[buoyant flame]

Idk how to do that on mobile lol

[bold turret]

well i wanted to have 32gb in the cheapest whey

[eager chasm]

your list is over budget

[buoyant flame]

Oh rly?

[bold turret]

oof

[buoyant flame]

He told me 2500 usd

My bad

Ok well go with ryokus then

Lol

[bold turret]

well i just google it

[buoyant flame]

Its fine

[eager chasm]

2080Ti will never fit in the budget and allow for him to buy everything else

[buoyant flame]

Haven't bought anything yet

[bold turret]

it says is was 2467 dollars

[buoyant flame]

Ya, I was misinformed

Ryokus list is good assuming you switched the ram

[bold turret]

what ram u suggest me then

[buoyant flame]

Lemme get a link

[bold turret]

as long is 32gb and worth the price

[buoyant flame]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc

[eager chasm]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/pTLGTC

[buoyant flame]

Good price to performance ram

[eager chasm]

added it

[buoyant flame]

There we go

[eager chasm]

the build is about 1450 ish

[buoyant flame]

Ok well I gotta head out now,

[bold turret]

tho u gotta find it a uk one

shiping will take long

[buoyant flame]

Ryoku knows what he's talking about so you should be able to finish it

[eager chasm]

550 for monitor, desk, chair, mic, KB,Mouse might be tight, but doable

those are fine to get used or cheap usually

[bold turret]

ryoku whats the diffrents of the ram i chosed and your

[eager chasm]

the CAS latency

[bold turret]

english pls

[eager chasm]

it affects performance a bit, you could go with your CL18 kit and it will have a 2 MS slower response time

[bold turret]

ight

the ssd it will work as a normal one righ

bc 2tb is going to be for video storage and 1tb for normal use

[eager chasm]

the SSD is an NVMe SSD, it plugs directly into the motherboard and is way faster than a normal SSD

[bold turret]

k

[eager chasm]

[bold turret]

ight going to order the part suggest the website they are there or maybe ebay

[eager chasm]

whatever way gets you the best deals you can get

[bold turret]

ight

ty for all

let u know when start building

ill get back in dms to show u what exacly getting

[astral hatch]

What would be the first thing you’d upgrade in a PC

[sand falcon]

@astral hatch Depends on what you already have.

https://www.userbenchmark.com/ Can you run this and post thre results?

[astral hatch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8X4zTC already built

[sand falcon]

Ah, that's even easier

Probably either CPU or GPU

[celest horizon]

gpu then cpu imo

[sullen spoke]

well depends what you need the pc for i guess, whatever is lacking the most

[astral hatch]

Well I’m mostly a console player and it’ll be used to stream BUT I will also game on it too.

[sullen spoke]

then a gpu would probably be more important to you, nvidia preferably for the nvenc encoder

[astral hatch]

Oh ok, so let’s say I upgrade the gpu and cpu. What would be the next 2 to upgrade?

[sacred obsidian]

you probably dont even need the cpu upgrade rn

upgrade the gpu and you should be pretty much good gaming wise. you can upgrade the cpu but you dont really need to

after that, i mean unless you want more ram, its a good pc

[astral hatch]

Like upgrade the gpu to 2060, 2060 super or what?

I was actually thinking of looking at a cooler too.

[sacred obsidian]

2060 super or if you can afford it, 2070 super is nice

the stock cooler you can upgrade if you want but if you're not overclocking then the stock cooler is fine. but if you do want, i like the hyper 212 black air cooler, or you can get an AIO which is more expensive but looks prettier imo

[astral hatch]

Ok cool, thanks for the help everybody!👍🏻

[cloud drum]

why are psu so expesnive

[potent prairie]

Custom sleeved rgb conversation cable 😁

[eager chasm]

@cloud drum because there is a huge shortage right now.

[bold turret]

yo is amd any good

[fast dust]

Yeeeeees

Their GPUs are iffy but their CPUs have amazing price to performance

[potent prairie]

Ey, congrats on the Egghead @fast dust

[fast dust]

Yeeeeees

Thanks my man

[eager chasm]

Ranger is planning on doing streaming and video editing of games so a Ryzen 7 CPU will be perfect

[fast dust]

Even a Ryzen 1600 af/2600/3600 will work good for that too

[bold turret]

2080 or 2080 super

[little leaf]

2080s

Not point in getting a 2080 when theres 2070s

[mortal rampart]

Do I need to remove thermal paste from the side of the cpu?

And if so how

[fast dust]

No need to

[little leaf]

Not needed but you can if you want

[fast dust]

I mean unless it’s on the pins or wtv you’re fine

[little leaf]

Just make sure its no spilling off onto board

[potent prairie]

I mean if it's non-conductive and doesn't get on the caps I don't think it would be an issue to get it on the board

[little leaf]

If it is use achohol and toilet paper

[mortal rampart]

Okay thx <33

[potent prairie]

Or q-tips

[mortal rampart]

I took most of it off the sides but I can't get it on the side of where the level is

Where it says am4

[fast dust]

Wdym

Elaborate on that please

[mortal rampart]

There

[fast dust]

Oh no you should be fine

Steel legend gang btw

[mortal rampart]

WWW

steel legend gang

[fast dust]

[bold turret]

Guys i just made my final build can you msg me so i can show the link

[inland atlas]

I dont understand sticking cheap plastic in your expensive build aka funko pops

[fast dust]

I have a funko pop in my build

[little osprey]

Alright

[fast dust]

As long as you don’t put it on something that gets hot they look cool and give some personality to your build

[inland atlas]

I stuck a funko pop in my build and it got melted lol

[fast dust]

So @little osprey it looks like a semi-decent case but airflow looks kinda bad

[little osprey]

It says it has 6 pre-installed fans

But I can swap them out

[fast dust]

Whaaaaat?!

6 pre installed fans for that cheap?!

[inland atlas]

The front panel is decent

[little osprey]

Its on sale

[fast dust]

Does it have reviews on it?

[little osprey]

Yeah

The lowest I've seen is a 4 star

[fast dust]

What’s the rating

Wow dang

[little osprey]

But it's normally 230

But it's on sale so I didn't know if I should buy it or not

[fast dust]

I say go for it and if it turns out to be bad just return it

And tell us it’s bad so we’ll know lol

[inland atlas]

The only complaint I've seen is that front panel

There's no space in the glass

[fast dust]

Cause I’ve seen one other person ask about it so far

[inland atlas]

Look at the vents on the side

Front panel us only bad thing

Is

[little osprey]

Would it still work well

[inland atlas]

Yeah just runs a bit warmer

[little osprey]

i was actually gonna go with that case but i saw a bad review and it freaked me out

[little leaf]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/TheRangerYT/saved/#view=d8wRTW

[inland atlas]

I always go with a trusted brand

[little osprey]

i don’t remember what to review was but it made me change my mind

I mean aren't they a trusted brand tho?

[inland atlas]

like bequiet, corsair, fractal ect

[little osprey]

just get a corsair 220T rgb it comes with 3 fans and buy like 2 more fans

[little leaf]

@bold turret

[inland atlas]

Musetek isn't a well known brand

Its probably a cheap Chinese brand

[little osprey]

i get 70-80 temps on full settings on AAA games with just 3 fans

[inland atlas]

That makes budget cases

[little leaf]

@little osprey thats not great

[inland atlas]

Musetek isn't well known

[bold turret]

ye?

[little osprey]

Mm

[little leaf]

@little osprey cpu or gpu?

[little osprey]

3 fans

[steep grove]

Deepcool that i have works well

[little osprey]

cpu

[bold turret]

@little leaf ?

[steep grove]

only has 10 fans in case currently, lol

[little leaf]

@little osprey what cpu and cooler?

[little osprey]

ryzen 5 3600 and stock cooler

[little leaf]

Ah I see

But 3 fans is enough

[inland atlas]

I have 3 fans and I have 65 degrees

[bold turret]

?

corn coin

[little osprey]

what gpu kitty

[inland atlas]

Underload

Idle its like 20-30

[little leaf]

@inland atlas what cpu and cooler?

[little osprey]

damn

20-30

[inland atlas]

I have the gigabyte windforce 2080 super

[little osprey]

nice

[inland atlas]

and cpu ryzen 7 3700x and a bequiet dark rock slim pro4

[little leaf]

Nice I have a i79700k and a 2070s

[inland atlas]

With arctic silver 5 thermal

[mortal rampart]

Is this too much

[inland atlas]

Woof

That is fine

No more

[mortal rampart]

I can take some off lmao

[spiral zealot]

yeah, if you can, just leave the part in the middle and clean off the sides a bit

[inland atlas]

Grain of rice is All you need

[mortal rampart]

How's that

[fast dust]

Looks fine

[spiral zealot]

yeah that's fine

[mortal rampart]

Thx

[storm thunder]

hi guys I am building my first pc and im having trouble as it doesnt fit with most online videos I am primarly having trouble with the power supply connections and case connections the build is a 3900x and 2080 super

would someone be able to direct me in what to do

[fast dust]

What power supply you got

[storm thunder]

thermaltake 750 rgb

[fast dust]

Smart?

[storm thunder]

idk

[fast dust]

Thermaltake Smart?

Or toughpower

[storm thunder]

lemme look

toughpower

[fast dust]

Okay phew

So can you elaborate on your problem for me

[storm thunder]

I dont know where I should put all the cables in my motherboard

and where my case cables should go

in my motherboard

[fast dust]

Okay case cables

There are USB 2.0 cables, 3.0, and HD audio

As well as front IO connections

Read your motherboard manual to find out where those go

Actually, reading the manual is the answer to this whole thing

It’ll tell you where everything goes

[storm thunder]

thank you

[little osprey]

Can someone help me with my pcpartpicker list

Like I made one bought it would be nice if I got your opinion guys

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[sacred obsidian]

i mean it should be fine but id save some money and knock down that gpu to like a 2080 super which is still plenty powerful but you can get it around 700

if you dont wanna do that the pc should run fine

[little osprey]

Ok ty

[proud yacht]

Is anyone here?

I have a question

[modern shadow]

yes @proud yacht

[proud yacht]

So I was wondering if you could make any revisions to my pc build, I've never built a pc before and am almost ready to order everything

I don't know for sure what to use, some people in a different server told me that the psu, gpu, storage, and mobo were all trash

[sand falcon]

@proud yacht Sure thing

Is it a pc part picker list?

[proud yacht]

Yes

pcpartpicker.com/list/swY3p8

I asked someone to revise it and they gave me that one that I just sent

[potent prairie]

Good ssd

[proud yacht]

ok

[sand falcon]

What's the budget here?

[potent prairie]

PSU is alright

[proud yacht]

I was going for around 900-975

[fast dust]

It looks like a decent build. You didn’t do bad necessarily. Dunno why people called everything trash

[sand falcon]

Wait, is the 3600 OOS?

[proud yacht]

The only real things I want to keep are the case, graphics card and cpu

[sand falcon]

Everything here looks solid to me

[proud yacht]

Ok, I was wondering with the mobo, does that come with a wifi card or do i have to buy one?

I don't really understand the whole wifi in a motherboard thing

because I have an ethernet cable but I want to be able to use WiFi just in case.

[potent prairie]

Slighly cheaper ram with the same speed and still c16:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mcH8TW/gskill-aegis-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gis

[sand falcon]

Do you have access to ethernet?

[proud yacht]

Yes

[sand falcon]

Then use ethernet

The mobo does have wifi though

[fast dust]

@potent prairie no heatsink tho. Looks are important too

[proud yacht]

So the mobo in this build already has wifi?

[fast dust]

@proud yacht Ethernet is much better. Use that whenever you can. But WiFi is on the motherboard so if you need to use WiFi you can

[proud yacht]

ok that's what I was wondering

[sand falcon]

If you have ethernet though, use that

[proud yacht]

Is there anything else besides the ram that I could shave off a bit of the price?

Will do

[fast dust]

Case maybe

But I’d say everything is pretty cheap already

At least for the quality you’re getting

[sand falcon]

It's a corsair case, should be good

[proud yacht]

Ok cool, how do you think it will be able to run games like, R6, GTA V or like minecraft shaders?

[sand falcon]

I'd keep the ram you have. It's only a four dollar difference and having the heat spreader is a plus

[proud yacht]

ok

[sand falcon]

r6 and minecraft will run at 120+ fps

[proud yacht]

ok

[sand falcon]

GTA V I don't play, so I don't know about that one, but it shuold run just fine

[proud yacht]

Do you think it would be worth it to buy a 144hz monitor then for this build?

[sand falcon]

2060s is a pretty decent GPU

144HZ 1080p should work

[proud yacht]

ok

Do you have any reccommendations for monitors

Really I'm looking for a curved 144hz monitor with 3ms or less response time

1080p

It's been a struggle to find a monitor for that

[sand falcon]

I'd stear clear of curved

[proud yacht]

really?

[sand falcon]

Not really worth it in the sizes you use for gaming

[proud yacht]

oh ok

[sand falcon]

What size monitor were you looking at getting?

[potent prairie]

If you really want to be cheap, this is the same ram at the same latency for literally $1 less: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qGqbt6/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvgb

lol

[proud yacht]

Really anything, most likely 24 inches

xD

[sand falcon]

That's a good size

[fast dust]

24 inch 1080p monitor gang

165Hz gang

[potent prairie]

27in 1440p 165hz gang

[sand falcon]

Also bear in mind that the advertised response time for monitors is usually for going from gray to gray, not showing colors

[potent prairie]

😛

[proud yacht]

I have been having trouble because most the the monitors I'm looking for have good refresh rate but bad response time

Or vice versa

[fast dust]

What’s your monitor budget

[proud yacht]

I've narrowed it to about 200

[fast dust]

Do you mind buying refurbished

[sand falcon]

I'd say response times up to 15 or so should be fine, what do you guys think?

17" 1280p 75Hz gang btw

[proud yacht]

I've heard questionable things about refurbished monitors and that they usually have something wrong with them

omg I'm so stupid

[fast dust]

My main monitor is refurbished and going strong

[sand falcon]

That's why it was refurbished. The things that are wrong get fixed

[proud yacht]

I didn't know that response time was the time to shift to a different color and not input lag

I'm so stupid

I thought it was input lag

[sand falcon]

It will equate to input lag in the real world

[proud yacht]

ok

[potent prairie]

I got 4ms and don't notice at all

[proud yacht]

So is there any monitors you would recommend for around 200 or less?

[sand falcon]

The connection to your mouse will have most of the lag in a system

[potent prairie]

Like my last monitor was 1 ms, can't tell the dif

[proud yacht]

I see

[sand falcon]

https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime
Here's something fun

Most people have a reaction time of 170-300ms

[potent prairie]

lol. humanbenchmarks

I like it

[proud yacht]

Do you think I would find the best monitors on amazon?

Or like bestbuy?

[potent prairie]

You can find used ones on ebay

I personally would look at ebay/amazon/newegg

Find the cheapest option is like new condition

Amazon warehouse deals are usually great

[proud yacht]

What refresh rate should I go for?

I want at least 144hz, so should I go with that or like 165?

[potent prairie]

144hz moniters are often overclockable to 165

[proud yacht]

oh ok

[sand falcon]

You might have to lower settings to get 165

[proud yacht]

Another question: Can I take a copy of windows 10 from a laptop I dont use anymore and put it onto a desktop or is it only for other laptops?

I really don't want to buy a copy of windows 10

[lyric thistle]

eBay

[fast dust]

^

You can get cheap keys there

[inland atlas]

i got mine from there

for 3 dollars

[proud yacht]

ok

But could I transfer it from a laptop to a desktop if I wanted to?

[mortal rampart]

i believe you can but its a lengthy process through microsoft i think

[sand falcon]

You can do it

[spiral zealot]

if you have a registered copy installed, sign into your microsoft accounton that machine, and it will create a digital license for you, and then if you re-install or install on a new machine, just sign in again and it will register the copy of windows and tie it to the digital license

you can have i think 5 machines all using the same digital license on a single microsoft account

[wintry gust]

Hey guys I'm having an issue everything seems to be working on pc I built but there is no beeping but no signal either

Anyone have any suggestions

[fast dust]

Do you have the CPU power cable plugged in

[wintry gust]

Yes

[fast dust]

Let’s hear your full spec list

[tepid basalt]

b450 non max?

no, that looks like max version to me

what's the cpu?

and is it just me or your gpu's sagging? 🤔

[wintry gust]

Sec, 2080 ti msi graphics card 1000 wat evga power supply, 16 gigs corsair 2666 ram, i5 3800 quad core processor Intel, msi arsenal motherboard

[tepid basalt]

wot

i5 3800?

[fast dust]

Ahem wait i5 3800?

[wintry gust]

I believe so ya

[fast dust]

o_0

Hol up

[tepid basalt]

first time hearing such name

where do you get this rig from

[fast dust]

@wintry gust ah that’s not a thing

[wintry gust]

Friend lol replaced the motherboard, ram, graphics card

[fast dust]

I5 3800 is not real

[wintry gust]

Hold on..

Its a 1151 type

[fast dust]

Uh huh

Is it an i5-8400?

You might be mistaking clock speeds for model

[tepid basalt]

this is your motherboard, no?

[wintry gust]

I5... maybe it is a 3400

That is my board

[tepid basalt]

okay

[fast dust]

Nope 3400 would be 3rd gen, which is socket 1155

[tepid basalt]

so it's a 8400

[wintry gust]

ahhhh

[fast dust]

8400 sounds right

But it’s quad core

[wintry gust]

Ya its a quad.

[fast dust]

8th gen i5 was quad core?

I don’t remember...

Hol up again

[tepid basalt]

well if he mistook clock speed for name, cores can be mistaken too

at least we know that it's intel now

[fast dust]

I5-8400 is hexa Core

So if it’s quad core it’s gotta be 6th or 7th gen

[tepid basalt]

also, while we're on the topic, I don't think these part exist

yet

[fast dust]

Yep it’s a joke

Joke specs

[tepid basalt]

ik

[sand falcon]

userbenchmark time

[tepid basalt]

so does it boot to bios

[wintry gust]

It is an i5.... quad that is no joke

[sand falcon]

Wait, nvm

[tepid basalt]

or just straight up no signal whatsoever ?

[fast dust]

Dude an i5 quad core is gonna bottleneck a 2080 ti bad

[wintry gust]

No signal straight up

Well it was temporary

[sand falcon]

Do you get any signal if you disconnect the GPU and run off of the motherboard connector?

[fast dust]

@wintry gust do you know if it’s an unlocked CPU or not?

As in does it have a “K” at the end of the CPUs name?

[proud yacht]

I got a question about my build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/swY3p8

will this mobo work with a ryzen 5 3600?

[wintry gust]

Its unclocked

[fast dust]

@proud yacht yes

[wintry gust]

It was over clocked to be a 4200 mhz

[proud yacht]

ok I was just making sure

Thank you very much!

[fast dust]

Oh shoot so you can’t try to display off of motherboard crap

@proud yacht yep no problem my man

@wintry gust could be an unstable overclock. Try resetting CMOS

[sand falcon]

K series should still have iGPU, it's kf that doesn't isn't it?

[wintry gust]

Well its a new board so no overclock anymore

[sand falcon]

What all have you replaced?

[wintry gust]

Aka the system fried and I replaced parts

[fast dust]

@sand falcon I thought the older K series didn’t have a GPU, but I don’t remember entirely

[wintry gust]

motherboard, ram, graphics card

The power supply was fine and lrocessor

[sand falcon]

Just not the CPU?

What motherboard/GPU did you have before?

[wintry gust]

I had it running before It broke

An Asus z200

No a z270e

[sand falcon]

Okay

[fast dust]

I’ll let bob take it from here. I gotta leave anyways

[tepid basalt]

wait

so what's your processor rn

...

if possible, please remove the cooler and read the name

[wintry gust]

I'll get back to ya lol ^^

[sand falcon]

I think we're thinking the same thing karozy

[tepid basalt]

yeah...

[sand falcon]

Will that have completely fried the CPU?

[tepid basalt]

🤦‍♂️

at least he doesn't report any bbq smell

I hope not

[sand falcon]

I'm going to see if there's any documentation

[proud yacht]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/swY3p8

Do you guys think that this build could run oculus rift games?

I was thinking of buying a vr in the near future

[sand falcon]

Intel was so dumb how they did that

[wintry gust]

Hrmm cou huh..

[sand falcon]

@proud yacht That should run vr. Me and my roomate played vr on a mobile 1060 with crappy cooling

[proud yacht]

What about streaming too? Like games like Siege, minecraft, or modern warfare?

[tepid basalt]

yep

all good

[proud yacht]

cool

I'm glad you guys know what you are talking about because I honestly had no clue xD

[sand falcon]

I'm looking and it seems like the CPU should still be fine

[proud yacht]

cool

What do you think is the first thing I should upgrade in the future though?

[tepid basalt]

psu

[proud yacht]

ok

[sand falcon]

I'd upgrade GPU

@wintry gust Any news on the CPU?

[proud yacht]

What should I upgrade to then?

rtx 2070, 2080?

[wintry gust]

Waiting for a response. I do have this.. would this be better?

[earnest olive]

you could spend less on the case and mobo and bump that gpu up to a 2060S

better than what

i5-8400 is still a pretty competent gaming cpu for now

whoever just posted that link, you can't post links until level 3

[sand falcon]

You have the 8400?

[wintry gust]

Yup it was for another computer I was working on.

But i can use that and I can get another later

[earnest olive]

if that's what you have already i wouldn't rush to upgrade it

better off waiting for ryzen 4000

[sand falcon]

I would use that. You're old motherboard used the first gen 1151 socket, which was compatible with 6th and 7th gen CPUs. Your new motherboard is second gen 1151, which even though it's exactly the same layout, will not work with the CPUs that the old motherboard worked with

For the second gen 1151, you'll need an 8th or 9th gen processor, so that 8400 will work just fine

[wintry gust]

Ty

[earnest olive]

some mobos made for 6th-7th gen can be modded to work with 8th-9th

👀

[tepid basalt]

yep

you just need modded bios for i3 and lower

and cover up some pins with i5 and i7

people do that alot in my place

saves them some cash

in exchange for potential errors