#building-and-recc-chat

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cursive wharf
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tv1 just does the straight HDMI to HDMI, hopefully without issue

copper mason
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wait lemme read again xD

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ye, do DP to HDMI>HDMI to ethernet to HDMI on tv2 as tv2 is 1080p so bandwidth isnt as high
@cursive wharf wait did you mean to use another extension cable on the DP->HDMI converter cable ? xD

cursive wharf
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have 4k tv do GPU HDMI to monitor HDMI
have 1080 tv do GPU DP to cable HDMI to ethernet and back HDMI monitor

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as 1080 tv should have lower bandwidth and thus not have these bandwidth issues

copper mason
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to ethernet and back HDMI monitor
I couldn't quite follow this part 🤔

little osprey
cursive wharf
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Also looking into DP length limits, 3 meter for the high res. Possible to do 15m if say keeping to 1080p on a good cable
you're doing HDMI over ethernet are you not?

copper mason
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have 1080 tv do GPU DP to cable HDMI to ethernet and back HDMI monitor
@cursive wharfthe DP to HDMI converter cable is only 6.6ft ya I'd need an active cable to go longer
but as you said with 1080p it might not be an issues, just that it's only 6.6ft it won't reach

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you're doing HDMI over ethernet are you not?
@cursive wharf ooo I see the cable says "with ethernet" but I'm not using it for anything ethernet

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I just plug that HDMI-HDMI cable from GPU's HDMI port to TV's HDMI port

cursive wharf
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yes, as 4k tv is close but 1080 tv is far from what I understand

copper mason
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yeep that's right

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and the 1080p TV isn't connected to ethernet

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it's super old I got it for free

cursive wharf
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ye, GPU DP to HDMI>HDMI to ethernet>ethernet to HDMI>HDMI to 1080 tv HDMI

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using the > to try and separate the conversions

copper mason
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dang that's a lot of conversions xD

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I don't fully follow how the HDMI to Ethernet, and Ethernet to HDMI works

cursive wharf
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isnt that what the ethernet converter you already have now is?

copper mason
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oh no no I don't have a ethernet converter xD

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I have a DP to HDMI cable

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the other cable I have is just HDMI to HDMI

alpine sparrow
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@little osprey decent

cursive wharf
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is what I got confused about. Anyways gtg for a bit

little osprey
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what imporvements to make?

copper mason
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the highlighted text is shown on the body of the HDMI-HDMI cable

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it's at least 5 year old so I don't know its exact model

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but ya I'm not using it for anthing internet related
for all intents and purposes it's just a HDMI cable

little osprey
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So I finally decided on my Mobo, going to get it next paycheck which should be by next Wednesday, Thursday at the latest

copper mason
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is what I got confused about. Anyways gtg for a bit
@cursive wharf gotcha thanks a bunch for the help

little osprey
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Asus ROG Strix b450-F Gaming ATX

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$130

potent prairie
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Nice. Found it at at that price?

little osprey
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Yep

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And surprisingly of all places, Best Buy

potent prairie
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I'm surprised w/ all the price gouging

little osprey
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In Stock too

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Let's hope that lasts another week

potent prairie
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I'm going ROG b550 i with my next build once it comes back in stock

little osprey
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Well I have an Asus AC5300 router so I want an Asus rog Mobo so I can reap the full benefits of the router

potent prairie
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Is that a thing lol? How does your mobo matter w/ your router

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Like as long as it has an ethernet port

little osprey
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There's a few features that I get as a bonus

potent prairie
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Aight, fair enough. I just like the look, even if their service is apparently bad

little osprey
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@potent prairie

potent prairie
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Ah, fair enough

little osprey
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might pay more for mobo, but ill like the features i get

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lets hope its still in stock next week

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...ok wtf

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Pcpp says it's in stock

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Best buy says no

viral ore
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this is worthless

little osprey
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B450-F

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@viral ore

viral ore
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?

little osprey
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Not h470-i

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I don't know why you linked that

viral ore
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im not really talking to whatever happened up there

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this is my own comment

little osprey
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Oh ok

viral ore
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i just came across this and couldnt think of a reason anyone would choose this board

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a locked rog board

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what a waste of money

little osprey
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Ahh

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Locked?

viral ore
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unoverclockable

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max ram speed is 2933

little osprey
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Ahh

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found this

viral ore
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oh wow

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not bad

little osprey
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In stock on the 29th

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Might buy it then

viral ore
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but by the 29th, b550 boards might e in stock

little osprey
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In fact that's 3 days before I get paid

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True, but it's cheaper

viral ore
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yeah

little osprey
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The b550 version is $60 more with double the ram

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But the 450 offers everything I need

viral ore
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well, the b550 version isnt worth buying, there are cheaper boards

little osprey
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Like the 450

viral ore
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no, i meant if you were actually looking for a b550, there are better b550 boards

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than the rog strix

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better as in cheaper

little osprey
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Well like I said earlier I'd rather ROG

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It pairs with my router

viral ore
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lol, dont be a sucker for a brand mane

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ooh

little osprey
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I posted the pics up above

viral ore
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in that case, matching branding is a reason

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i didnt read whatever is up there

little osprey
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Yeah I got the Asus AC5300 router

viral ore
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nice

little osprey
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heres why i want a rog mobo

cursive wharf
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barely will make a difference

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what actually makes a difference is your ISP and the plan you have

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also if your network is setup poorly

viral ore
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so, its a custom implementation of QoS?

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eh

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i mean, 129 for a atx b450 is decent regardless

little osprey
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For $210 I could get a b550 with wifi

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But I already have a wifi adapter coming in

viral ore
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for 150

cursive wharf
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price to perf is good, still the best board to get ATX wise for being cheap on b450. But getting for the reason of custom QoS is eh

viral ore
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this is preorder, but by the time youre ready to buy it could be available

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but, stick with the asus board

little osprey
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hes my full list

cursive wharf
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def change that PSU

little osprey
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keep in mind the ONLY thing i dont have is mobo

viral ore
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ohh rip

cursive wharf
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IED in disguise

little osprey
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well didnt buy it so....

cursive wharf
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return it if you can

little osprey
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the only hardware i bought myself is the storage and the mobo

cursive wharf
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then I do suggest trying to get a new PSU when you can. It truly is a sketchy PSU

viral ore
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for a 3600 and a RX 570 i would say the psu is good enough considering you already own it

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nah, the psu works at least

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hes not running a ton off it

little osprey
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its still in the packaging from when it was shipped

cursive wharf
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well, it works till it catches fire

viral ore
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oh really? return it if its still in the packaging

little osprey
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everything minus storage is in shipping packages

cursive wharf
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I assume parents or relatives bought it?

little osprey
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also why return it when almost all psu are either sold out or being price gouged?

cursive wharf
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So that your PSU doesnt explode

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It isnt a very good PSU

little osprey
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also @cursive wharf thats an interesting story right there, how i got the parts in the first place

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your partly correct that a relative bought em

cursive wharf
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bit harsh given it's a gift, but you should give the PSU back and say that it isnt really that good

little osprey
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Well, the family member who bought it was my younger brother who stole my debit card and bought the parts as an apology from stealing other things from me

sand falcon
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Nice

little osprey
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Yep

cursive wharf
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well then...

little osprey
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Yep

cursive wharf
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interesting...
Anyways, should still be in your name to be able to return it, unless return window passed

little osprey
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It's a 30 day window right?

cursive wharf
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little osprey
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So ... he used your card, to buy parts, as an apology, for stealing something else?

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Yep

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facedesk

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Lol

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Though once my parents asked us both who really did it since if it was my brother he would be in legal trouble(first time they asked) he adamantly refused it was him, and still does dispite proof it was him

viral ore
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well, hes not very good at buying parts smh

little osprey
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Well he doesn't know much about parts anyways, he's 13

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Sounds like my idiot younger brother.

viral ore
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honestly, just return as much of that crap as you can

little osprey
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He didn't even buy the case nor gpu I wanted

viral ore
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i know its a hassle, but what a waste of 800 dollars

little osprey
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@viral ore nah, going to keep it. Might replace psu

cursive wharf
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starting new would honestly be more idle tbh

little osprey
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Challenger S case btw

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And Adata xpg z1 16gb c16 3200 ram

spiral zealot
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return PSU for sure lol

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thermaltake smartbomb

little osprey
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Thing is I wouldn't get money back

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Since it was bought as a "gift", I'd get a gift card balance

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If that

lyric thistle
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You won't get your money back when it nukes your computer either NYEHE

spiral zealot
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^

little osprey
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Lol

spiral zealot
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take the gift card

little osprey
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Wouldn't that fall under manufacturers warrenty?

cursive wharf
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PSU would, not the parts

spiral zealot
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exactly

cursive wharf
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like CPU/GPU/storage/mobo

spiral zealot
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rest of the system is a loss, and they'd replace the PSU with another tickign time bomb

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hooray?

little osprey
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And I think I have like a $5000 computer coverage through my insurance company

spiral zealot
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i'm sure you can find other stuff on amazon that would be useful if you got a gift card back for the PSU

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buy toilet paper, it's still legal currency based on the state of the world

little osprey
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Not really

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My area has lots of toilet paper in stock

cursive wharf
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look into it and see how much you get as Amazon/Newegg money

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for the rest of the parts

little osprey
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Honestly, if it was me. I'd tell them the card was stolen, and let little bro deal with the consequences. He's going to have to wake up to it eventually.

high coyote
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PSU doesn’t like the liquid

little osprey
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Hes already suffering consequences

spiral zealot
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get a gift card, and spend it on a site that accepts amazon pay

little osprey
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Lol

spiral zealot
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then you aren't locked into spending on amazon

high coyote
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@little osprey it works just PSU doesn’t work in the liquid

little osprey
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The gift money would be put into my Amazon wallet

cursive wharf
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well make sure he truly understands so he doesnt actually duck himself when he is an adult

little osprey
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@high coyote what?

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@cursive wharf he's heading to a psychologist and will most likely be heading to juvie

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But tbh, I'll wait a bit and see what else comes into stock in terms of PSU

cursive wharf
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hopefully that should get it to him. You see a lot of bad stuff on the internet and sometimes is sad to see

little osprey
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I've had good luck in terms of hardware so far.

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When I went to upgrade my laptop, my mom evacuated the house for fears that I would explode my laptop or something similar.

cursive wharf
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anyways, major PSU shipment was like half a week ago (lots of PSUs came into stock). It'll probs be another 2 - 3 weeks until next major shipment I'd guess

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so probs go with Pure Power 11 that is coming to stock soon or Phanteks AMP, if you can afford it

little osprey
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Was thinking of raidmax cobra either 1200 or 1000

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1200 is $99.99

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And it's a 80+ gold

cursive wharf
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nah, no good info from actual reviewers

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PSUs have so much in quality that you dont really realize it's kinda crazy. To give an okay list of it all:
voltage regulation/ripple, included protections (and whether they work properly), transient response, capacitor quality, fan quality, noise (both from fan & coil whine), whether it's group regulated, whether it's multi rail, how good the solder quality is, what the failure rate is, what the average failure of the PSU causes, etc

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with all of that in mind, you cant just use wattage, rating, or brand to figure it out

spiral zealot
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quick look at the LTT PSU tier list shows the Raidmax Cobra AE Gold, 850W and above on the Tier B list, but that's not the same as full proper reviews

cursive wharf
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Also for wattage, you can run a stock 3950x+2080Ti off a good 550w. 650w for basic OCing

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So you really dont need that much

little osprey
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Ik

cursive wharf
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@spiral zealot and it's greyed out, meaning some potential issues are with it. Looking at the notes nothing says why it is. The reviews also arent that great info wise sadly.

spiral zealot
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yeah, there might be more info in the spreadsheet they used to classify everything, but that's a lot of digging

cursive wharf
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speadsheets have not much of anything

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I'll just call it lack of info until a more proper review comes out for it (which doesnt seem likely tbh)

little osprey
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Read amazon reviews and I don't think I'll return it

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They make you pay for shipping for returns

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*thermaltake does

cursive wharf
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getting +$20 back is more ideal then getting -$350 to -$400 back of hardware

little osprey
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They make ME pay for the shipping for returns

cursive wharf
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yes, you gain back $40 or so and lose probs $20 or so for shipping

proven plank
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And btw, this is overkill because I need it to last at least 8 to 10 years

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And I hope to finally play minecraft at HD with more than 25 fps

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AMD + ASUS ROG = Yes weggsmug Chef_Kiss

little osprey
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Can I be adopted?

proven plank
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Yes

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Just run away and buy a really realistic dog costume and try to be as much as an animal as possible

little osprey
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woof woof

proven plank
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Good boy

keen depot
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I mean it's good, but you can cut so much off that price

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You're not going to need 64 gb of RAM

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I would reccomend going with a kraken over the Asus, you're paying for the name brand

proven plank
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Nah, I prefer the Asus, I know a friend who uses the krakens x with the little remote thingy

keen depot
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And also, if you're planning on sketching out a lot of the stuff

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Keep the mb

little osprey
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Giga

keen depot
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But replace the GPU and CPU with something cheaper

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Since ryzen 4 and Nvidia 30XXs are coming this year

proven plank
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Keep the mb
Yeah, going to get the 3080Ti and the 4950X

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For sure

keen depot
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Also, cut that 64 gb kit to a 32

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Worse comes to worse you buy the rest later

proven plank
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Oh well, I have a 7k$ budget for the setup so...

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And I am going to work for those money

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And in like maybe 9 months I will have them

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If everything goes right

keen depot
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Be honest here, what are you planning on doing with it

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@proven plank

proven plank
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Oh well

edgy wagon
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"play roblox and moincraft"

proven plank
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Minecraft with rtx at most while streaming

keen depot
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Uh

proven plank
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Bruh

edgy wagon
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to some extent i was right

proven plank
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Yeah6

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Yeah*

keen depot
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RTX Minecraft?

proven plank
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Actually yes

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Yeah lol

next kestrel
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sound card tho?

proven plank
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Minecraft with rtx

keen depot
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Alright fine, get a 2080 super for that

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Or cheaper

proven plank
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sound card tho?
Yup

keen depot
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And upgrade to 3080ti

proven plank
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Alright fine, get a 2080 super for that
Heeehh nah, gotta get everything right away

edgy wagon
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i dont think hes building it until 2 years from now

next kestrel
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samsung ssds are kinda overpriced

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but then again

edgy wagon
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or am i dead wrong?

keen depot
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Sigh, you're wasting so much money

next kestrel
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so is your build

keen depot
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You also don't need 2 1TB NVME drives

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Especially not Samsung ones

edgy wagon
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but he wants them

next kestrel
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and also wtf are monitors

keen depot
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If you're getting a wide you don't need a second

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And if you for some reason decide to get a second

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Go with a 1080p 60hz

next kestrel
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dont get one thats more expensive than the ultrawidw

keen depot
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Since you won't really be using it for that much

edgy wagon
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or get 4k ultrawide 120 hz

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and budget parts more

proven plank
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Okokok, did you read what I said?

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I want it overkill

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I could buy even a quadro rtx and wait a bit more to pay it

keen depot
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This is more than overkill

proven plank
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But I would take it

keen depot
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Honestly I can make you a cheaper PC with 2 2080tis

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That's how over priced this is rn

proven plank
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Yeah I know

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But I want it like that and I cannot change things for more cheap ones

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Bc I want it to last for loooooong

edgy wagon
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you are overpaying for brand names

proven plank
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I know

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But I like them

keen depot
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Cough cough ASUS case

proven plank
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Yup

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I love the way it looks

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And the corsair cosmos isn't a difference

keen depot
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Look, ASUS is great and all, but there are better cases

edgy wagon
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uhh

proven plank
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I know but I don't like them

keen depot
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For much less

proven plank
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They're too boring

keen depot
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...

edgy wagon
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lian li, h510 elite, those open air things

keen depot
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^

proven plank
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Ok

edgy wagon
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the only thing i can personally see paying slightly more for is a monitor and a case

proven plank
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Find me a good looking case for even 230$

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A cooler looking case

keen depot
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Ok

proven plank
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I want the best out of a monitor too because I've been playing with a 25 hz monitor my whole life and I've been playing with a bad laptop since my birth

edgy wagon
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ouch

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i just ordered the new alienware 240hz monitor

proven plank
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Ok cooler but not a transformer

keen depot
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Oh I like those cases

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Look gio

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What kind of build to you like

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Rgb

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Clean

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Mix of both

proven plank
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I don't like it, it's too edgy

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Does it fly?

drifting timber
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i want to have the ability to upgrade to 64x2

keen depot
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There ya go

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Even got you a pattered front

edgy wagon
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matrix what do you plan on using your pc for?

proven plank
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I see it too boxy

keen depot
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...

proven plank
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Hold on

keen depot
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Paying 600 dollars for a case isn't worth it

drifting timber
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gaming for lesiure vms for work

keen depot
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No matter how cool it works

proven plank
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It's 230

viral ore
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wait, whats going on here??

proven plank
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It's 230€

viral ore
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no, i mean in general

keen depot
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The guy wants a 7k PC that he's gonna upgrade

viral ore
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lots of interesting component choices are being thrown around

proven plank
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We are discussing about me choosing the Asus rog case

viral ore
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its a case who cares

proven plank
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The guy wants a 7k PC that he's gonna upgrade
I'm not going to upgrade it

viral ore
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if you like it and have money, get it

keen depot
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It's 3x the normal price of a case

proven plank
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If I can find a cheaper alternativ that I like them ok

viral ore
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you dont need a 7k pc, after the 3k mark price/perf falls of a cliff

proven plank
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Hold up, lemme see what I find Interesting to me

keen depot
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^^

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I will make you a PC with no case

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Hold on

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Same specs

viral ore
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also, gaming at 7k, just go intel

proven plank
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I prefer that amd

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I like it more

viral ore
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unless youre doing other thinks that warrant 32 threads

proven plank
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I am a fanboy

viral ore
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NO SELLING

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wait

proven plank
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Hi! Im selling my gaming pc; i7-9700K, 32GB Ram (3000mhz), and nvidia rtx 2070! Need to sell ASAP. 500USD for full system; if you want separate parts PM me for more info, prices and pics!
@little osprey delete it

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It's against the rule

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You're going to get warned

viral ore
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@coarse coral @little osprey ban this man, this isnt the first time he has tried to sell crap

proven plank
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Oh well

viral ore
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or @ripe osprey

proven plank
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@subtle halo

viral ore
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dang it, yall are gaming rn

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tomie is crafting

ripe osprey
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im now losing the race cause of you

proven plank
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Not tomie tho

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Oh lol

viral ore
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srry linds

ripe osprey
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its okay lol

viral ore
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but he try to sell multiple times now

ripe osprey
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kicked

viral ore
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ok, so why get an amd cpu

proven plank
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Do I really got kicked

viral ore
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are you doing anything else aside from gaming?

proven plank
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Yeah

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Maybe some photoshoo work and I want to get into heavy modeling

viral ore
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literally, if your doing anything else, go amd lol

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boom

proven plank
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Yeah

viral ore
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amd time

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lol

proven plank
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And I also use A LOT of apps at the same time

viral ore
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but i should say this now, are you planning on buying any of this within the next week?

proven plank
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Within the next 2 years

viral ore
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well, come back the day when you are ready to spend tons of money on a pc

proven plank
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I'm not going to buy those stuff

keen depot
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Here

proven plank
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Ok

viral ore
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lol

keen depot
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Your upgrade compatable PC

proven plank
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I don't like it

keen depot
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So I went with cheaper GPU/CPU since you would trade them out

proven plank
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I wouldn't

keen depot
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You're not going to noticed a difference between 100 and 144 hz

proven plank
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I said even in the description that I was not going to buy those components but I was going to buy directly the 4th gen ryzen and the 3080TI

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And I will notice a difference

viral ore
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speaking from experience, i notice the difference lol

proven plank
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I did try out 100hz vs 144

keen depot
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All the 144 hz wider monitors are overly expensive

viral ore
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i can tell between 144 and 240 as well

keen depot
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But fine I'll change it out

viral ore
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240hz is Chef_Kiss

proven plank
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Oh well, I am fine to pay that much for it

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There is even a freaking 300hz laptop

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It's ridiculous

viral ore
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dont forget the 360hz display

proven plank
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Yeah

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Oh man

viral ore
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which i will be purchasing someday

wooden viper
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Thoughts httpp://pcpartpicker.com/list/W7dvx6?

keen depot
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There

proven plank
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I remember when the 180hz was the bonkers monitor

keen depot
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A 144hz monitot

viral ore
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it needs some tweaks

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brb

proven plank
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Anomalous

wooden viper
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Thx

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😑

proven plank
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I need to see the prices of the next 4th gen ryzen and the prices of the 3080ti and what best way than seeing the price of their previous gen parts?

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And I want those rog parts

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Because I love the way rog looks

viral ore
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do you already own the PSU @wooden viper

keen depot
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The ROG parts are completely over prived

proven plank
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And I don't mind overpaying for it

keen depot
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Even for the looks

proven plank
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I don't care

wooden viper
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No I just need to wait or get another one

proven plank
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If it's beautiful and doesn't costs 3000€ I can buy it

viral ore
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ok

little osprey
#

ASUS is really bad with CS too. I stopped using them after about 15 years of using them almost exclusively for customer builds.

gritty solar
#

guys i need help, I bought a silicon power 512gb ssd but it has two notches on the end that it connects instead of one, is there any way i could still get it to work

proven plank
#

I want the look tho

viral ore
#

also @wooden viper the H510 has bad airflow, so your components could get a but toasty

proven plank
#

Look, if someone of you can make me a good looking pc that doesn't costs more than 7k and that has a 3950X and a 2080Ti at least with 11Gb of ddr6

viral ore
#

i would suggest something different, unless you really like the look of the case

proven plank
#

I would be happy

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And choose that instead

keen depot
#

It clashes way too much tho

#

Also if you have a 7k budget

little osprey
#

Well, RiP

proven plank
#

Spend all the 7k

keen depot
#

hard-line watercool

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Or at least softline

#

Either works

viral ore
wooden viper
#

I’ll check it out

viral ore
#

the WD ssd is crap, and the psu was meh, and the motherboard was kinda unnecessary

proven plank
#

I don't want an entire watercooled px

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Pc*

keen depot
#

Why not?

viral ore
#

also, the difference between 256 and 512gb of SSD was like 15 dollars

proven plank
#

Why not?
Because I'm a noob at building

#

Literally my first pc built up from zero

keen depot
#

Softline water building isn't hard

#

Put the block on

#

Take off the cooler of the GPU

proven plank
#

I know but I'm scared that I'm going to mess up somethinf7

#

Something *

keen depot
#

It's pretty safe

proven plank
#

You wanna do it for me xD?

keen depot
#

Depends, where do you live, and do you trust a 16 y/o?

proven plank
#

Yeah

#

I live in Italy tho

#

LUL

keen depot
#

Heh

#

Not happening

proven plank
#

Yeah lol

keen depot
#

I live in SoCal

proven plank
#

California?

keen depot
#

Yeah

proven plank
#

Ok

keen depot
#

But if you have worry's about it

proven plank
#

Well, a pretty long distance then

#

I want to go just watercooled for the cpu lol

#

That's it

gritty solar
#

can someone help me plz

proven plank
#

And can I underclock the gpu when I want?

keen depot
#

Gio, here

proven plank
#

@gritty solar @subtle halo or @ripe osprey ban for the profile Pic

#

Gio, here
Wait tho, there's another thin

#

The mantainance

ripe osprey
#

bruh

keen depot
#

Maintenance isn't too terrible

proven plank
#

I know but I don't wanna rik it

keen depot
#

Just watch the video

#

Then make up your mind

proven plank
#

Wait hold up

ripe osprey
#

pls dont tell use what to do or who to ban

proven plank
#

Nono hold uo

gritty solar
#

can someone plz help me

ripe osprey
#

let us make the determination on what to do

proven plank
#

Up*

#

I saw something that wasn't right

gritty solar
#

I bought a silicon power 512gb ssd but it has two notches on the end that it connects instead of one, is there any way i could still get it to work

ripe osprey
#

yes you did

#

and you said "ban"

#

just report it

#

and we will make the call on wht to do

gritty solar
#

i changed so its all chill

proven plank
#

Oh ok then, sorry, I did say why thi

gritty solar
#

i lowkey forgot it was that

#

its been that for like 5 months

proven plank
#

i changed so its all chill
Oh ok, but you should firstly read the rules before even chatting

keen depot
#

Gio, just stop

gritty solar
#

i didnt think it was even that offensive it was just a jacked up roblox character

ripe osprey
#

gio

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just report it and move on

#

its okay

keen depot
#

@gritty solar can you take a picture of the SSD

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And send it to me

ripe osprey
#

no need to be a mod without being a mod

gritty solar
#

yea lemme take it out of rq

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It won’t lemme send a picture

#

I’ll dm it to u

keen depot
#

Alright

proven plank
#

@keen depot just saw the video

gritty solar
#

i dm it to u

keen depot
#

@gritty solar yeah that'll work just fine

gritty solar
#

but it wont work

keen depot
#

That's a normal M.2 SSD

#

Hm

gritty solar
#

its got two slots u saw that like on the end

keen depot
#

What's the MB you have

gritty solar
#

gigabyte aorus wifi plus

proven plank
#

You know it's my first pc and I'm spending a lot of money, and I don't think I will be able to buy again something if it breaks, I just want a water cooled cpu with like the rog cooler and radiator or the evga one

jagged ember
#

Mind you, water-cooling performance is similar to air cooler performance

#

On a closed loop, at least

proven plank
#

Ok

jagged ember
#

Just a heads up but you don't have to change anything

proven plank
#

What about I use it overclocked

#

I use the cpu overclocked

gritty solar
#

so what do i do about the ssd

jagged ember
#

If ur mobo doesn't have an m.2 slot it won't work

gritty solar
#

it does

#

but the ssd has two slot

keen depot
#

It does

gritty solar
#

its weird

jagged ember
#

Then it's fine

#

Just put it in there like Linus does

#

45 degree angle

gritty solar
#

i did it like ths

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that

proven plank
#

Just put it in there like Linus does
Drop it then put it in?

potent prairie
#

Can you dm me that photo too @gritty solar

gritty solar
#

yea

jagged ember
#

Try reduce the angle a bit

#

And align the notch

keen depot
#

I don't know a whole lot about m.2 SSDs

jagged ember
#

Lol mine kinda just went in so

keen depot
#

But are B+Ms compatable with Ms?

potent prairie
#

That won't work

#

It is a different key, not m-key

jagged ember
#

Oh there's a difference

gritty solar
#

okay so do i just send it back

#

and get a compatible one

potent prairie
#

Yeah, I would

jagged ember
#

Yeah do it

keen depot
#

@gritty solar how many m.2 slots does the MB have

#

Have you tried different ones

gritty solar
#

id have to take out my gpu to put it in the other one

potent prairie
#

Oh... wait a sec

keen depot
#

Hold on, can you link the MB?

proven plank
#

Does someone knows a pc with a 3950X and a 2080Ti with all the peripherals for 7k$? I want to know the best I can get from that money so It can last really longer

gritty solar
#

2090?

proven plank
#

Corrected

gritty solar
#

ok

proven plank
#

I'm using a phone

gritty solar
#

oh

#

so should i still just send it back

keen depot
#

Shump, link the mB

potent prairie
#

Yeah. Looks like you got a B+M key

#

You want a B key

gritty solar
#

yea thats what i have

#

a B+

#

ok lemme link the mb

potent prairie
#

I'd return it and get like a MP34

proven plank
#

If someone finds a better permorming a looking pc build than mine please @ me, I wanna see it (max 7k doe)

#

See ya beauties

jagged ember
#

Yeah mp34

next kestrel
#

😄

proven plank
#

Good pc build for 4500$

#

You made it for just gaming?

next kestrel
#

yeah

gritty solar
#

i think my build is pretty good for 2000

potent prairie
proven plank
#

Oh ok then

#

Oh well, see yall

next kestrel
#

it should handle streaming pretty well tho

proven plank
#

Night beauties

keen depot
#

@gritty solar yeah both of your m.2s are M key

gritty solar
#

so what should i do

potent prairie
#

If you are ok spending $20 more for an mp34, I would return it for that. I'm trying to see if you can use B+M on a M key

keen depot
#

@gritty solar according to Tom's hardware b+m is compatable with M

gritty solar
#

but the ssd is in the slot and everything and it still wont work

next kestrel
#

yeah i think

potent prairie
#

Hmm. Does it seem to be in right?

gritty solar
#

yea

next kestrel
#

did u screw it in and everything?

gritty solar
#

yea

next kestrel
#

do you have any other drives?

#

sata

gritty solar
#

no

#

i had a 2tb hdd tho

next kestrel
#

is it connected?

keen depot
#

Hm

gritty solar
#

yea

keen depot
#

@gritty solar move it to the other one

gritty solar
#

the thing about that one

#

is its like alot longer

#

and i wont be able to screw it down

next kestrel
#

you can move the standoff/screw

keen depot
#

Yeah

next kestrel
#

with your case you should have some tool to unscrew the standoff

gritty solar
#

i have a NZXT h510 matte black and red

#

i have screw drivers

keen depot
#

Okay, what's the SSD that you're trying to install

gritty solar
#

yea

#

so should i just move it and see

potent prairie
#

Sure

gritty solar
#

ok gimme a minute to do it

keen depot
#

@gritty solar dumb question, but did you enable the m.2 mode in your bios

potent prairie
#

I think it's enabled by default?
But wouldn't hurt to check

gritty solar
#

ok imma be completely honest, ive never built a pc before this was my first i had a laptop before this, so to answer ur question, no i have not, how do i do that

potent prairie
#

If you have $20 and can wait a week, an MP34 is a considerable better drive

gritty solar
#

i have 0$

potent prairie
#

Fair enough. A sata ssd is still way better than mechanical

little leaf
#

only if it has dram

potent prairie
#

It does

gritty solar
#

ok so should i just send ot back

little leaf
#

if it doesn't its sometimes alot worse

gritty solar
#

or should i try and connect it first

little leaf
#

what are you guys talking about?

potent prairie
#

He has a B+M key WD Blue and is having trouble installing into his mobo/detecting it. From what I can see, B+M keys work in M Keys, right?

keen depot
#

@gritty solar it's a setting in the bios

gritty solar
#

how do i do that

keen depot
#

I don't know much more past that

gritty solar
#

i slow

#

dang ok

#

so should i just go into my bios and look

keen depot
#

I mean I guessM

potent prairie
gritty solar
#

ight imma go look through the bios

#

Ight I’m in my bios

#

And idk where to go to

potent prairie
#

Advanced-->Onboard Devices Configuration

past umbra
#

I kinda wanna upgrade my ram to 32 gigabytes, should I buy a 2x16 kit or buy 2 more 2x8s

gritty solar
#

4x8

#

There is no advanced

#

There’s advanced frequency, memory and voltage

past umbra
#

Wdym

gritty solar
#

U should get 4x8 sticks of ram

#

I’m talking to night abt other things

keen depot
#

Eh

#

Go with whatever is cheaper @past umbra

jagged ember
#

I think you gotta exit simple mode

#

It should tell you how to access advanced mode in your bios

potent prairie
#

It turns out it is showing up, but it's a optane drive not a normal ssd

jagged ember
#

damn

potent prairie
#

Looks like whoever he bought it from sent an 16GB optane drive instead of what he paid for

keen depot
#

@gritty solar any luck?

potent prairie
#

It showed up for him, but like I said the seller sent him an optane drive not the 512 gb ssd he bought @keen depot

keen depot
#

Wait he got an optane?

jagged ember
#

but it's 16gb

potent prairie
#

Yeah. A 16GB optane

jagged ember
#

was it amazon?

keen depot
#

How do you mess that up that badly

potent prairie
#

It was likely a third party seller

jagged ember
#

can't you ask for a return?

potent prairie
#

He can and will

jagged ember
#

okay, nice

potent prairie
#

Just a really wierd situation

jagged ember
#

if he has an intel cpu, that optane would be nice

potent prairie
#

Yeah, but not for $70

jagged ember
#

usually they let you keep the wrongly sent stuff, right?

potent prairie
#

Depends

#

If it is direct from amazon, sometimes

#

3rd parties usually want the item back

jagged ember
#

damn

lyric thistle
#

I like 3D parties

potent prairie
#

Lol

lyric thistle
#

You can look this way and that way and the shapes change

jagged ember
#

i've been talking about 3d desktops, man

#

that's where its at

spiral flax
#

where do i download nivida drivers?

potent prairie
#

Google nvidia drivers 🙂

jagged ember
mossy citrus
#

open for edits

subtle halo
#

forks already have one just setting up

mossy citrus
#

Ok

#

Send pcpp link

karmic vigil
#

why such a poor gpu

mossy citrus
#

Its a mc server

karmic vigil
#

ohhhhgotchu

mossy citrus
#

We just need a output

karmic vigil
#

thought u meant for playing mc lmao

mossy citrus
#

Rip

karmic vigil
#

do you gotta budget ?

mossy citrus
#

Hell no

#

Idk

#

We made as a joke

#

"newegg minecraft server"

karmic vigil
#

maybe dont spend as much on case

#

oh ur not serious

mossy citrus
#

@celest horizon whats the mc server build

#

Send a PCPP link

celest horizon
#

Huh

mossy citrus
#

forks already have one just setting up
Tomie

celest horizon
#

Oh, it runs on a dell optiplex now lol

mossy citrus
#

Lol

jagged ember
#

lmao

celest horizon
#

Started it on a 9900k, then moved to 7700k , now 3470s

mossy citrus
#

Im making a server for me and my friends

potent prairie
#

You don't need that much to run a smallish MC server. Like I run a 6th gen i7 with under 20 players, 60+ mods

mossy citrus
#

Any tips?

jagged ember
#

evolving, only backwards

celest horizon
#

Ya, I can easily move it to my other servers if it got bigger

#

But it's fine on the dell for now lol

mossy citrus
#

Im using 1.16

potent prairie
#

Starting out? Get an optiplex with like a decent i7, grab like 16-32gb of ram, a SSD, and you're golden

jagged ember
#

can you just run a server on the same computer ur playing on

potent prairie
#

Yes

jagged ember
#

i.e my rig

potent prairie
#

But like it's nice to have it separate, it hogs up resources and whenever you need to restart the server is down for a bit

jagged ember
#

right, ic

#

so you really just install the mineraft server jar file and run it

#

and open your port to the world

#

and it just works?

potent prairie
#

Not if you want a good experence

#

It does, but you want to pick a GUI

#

And paperMC is the best

#

It is more optimized, runs better

little osprey
potent prairie
#

Then you want some basic mods, EssentialsX, WorldGuard, Multiverse at the very least

little osprey
#

its free and no downloads

potent prairie
#

Aternos is alright but not for a serious server (in my opinion)

little osprey
#

for servers

potent prairie
#

I want full control

little osprey
#

true

#

but i use tekkit launcher for my mods so....

jagged ember
#

right, but if it's a pretty causual server

#

then i won't even need the mods?

little osprey
#

well it has mod PACKS

potent prairie
#

I'd still get them. EssentialX is nice for like speed and bans and stuff

little osprey
#

not specific mods

jagged ember
#

right

little osprey
#

my favorite is tekkit legends

potent prairie
#

Worldguard is a must if you want do any world mgnt

jagged ember
#

so how would one go about installing these mods

potent prairie
#

Download them from spigot or bukkit

#

Put them in your plugins file

#

I recommend MCSS as a great GUI

#

So you don't have to use CMD to run it

jagged ember
#

so just as an overview

#

get PaperMC, install it, download spigot/bukkit along with essentialsx, worldguard, multiverse and drag it into plugins folder

potent prairie
#

Spigot and Bukkit are not needed. Basically, spigot is a fork of bukkit and papermc is a fork of spigot

#

so spigot and bukkit mods are compatable with paper, but you need not download either

#

I would start with MCSS as they make setting everything up a breeze

cursive wharf
#

As someone who likes the nice redstone stuff, I dislike spigot and I believe also paper too

potent prairie
#

Why's that?

cursive wharf
#

some issues with entities when moving around

#

def in lazy chunk area, maybe in full chunk loading area

jagged ember
#

this?

potent prairie
#

Yh, that

cursive wharf
#

cant 100% remember the issues in detail

potent prairie
#

Ah. Well I haven't had any issues and me and my mods do a good bit of redstone stuff

jagged ember
#

I assume i'll still need to open a port and share my public ip address to get people out of my local network into my server?

cursive wharf
#

standard redstone is fine. But say like larger slimeblock contraptions that generally use entities (ie: flying machines)

potent prairie
#

Yes, you will need to setup port forwarding in your router settings and set your ip address and your port in MCSS

#

But you can start out with localhost as the ip if you wanna make sure everything is how you like it before you open it up

#

Trust me, you will get hooked on plugins.

#

I have 60+ and they are growing everyday. Like you can get awesome economy plugins, regenerating mines, tons of moderation stuff, custom lore, pretty much anything you like

jagged ember
#

oh regenerating mines is something that'd be nice

potent prairie
#

The only good one I found does cost money tho (JettsPrisonMines). There are like 2-3 plugins that I couldn't find free stuff for

jagged ember
#

F

potent prairie
#

Feel free to dm me if you want a plugin for something, I can give recommendations to the good ones and the ones to avoid.

jagged ember
#

yeah, thanks!

#

at this rate we'll need a mc channel on newegg lmao

potent prairie
#

Lol

little osprey
#

i mean i have a minecraft channel i can invite yall to

#

i used it for one of my servers, but its dead now

potent prairie
little osprey
#

i havent posted a link or anything so

potent prairie
#

ik lol

little osprey
#

but man i wonder if my build could run 120 on minecraft

potent prairie
#

Mine runs 40 fps avg

little osprey
#

my current is at 60

potent prairie
#

with sildurs extreme shaders and maxed settings

little osprey
#

ahhh i dont use shaders

#

but i do use max settings

potent prairie
#

Nice. Without shaders I get 320+

little osprey
#

nice

#

so a 5 3600, 16gb ram, and an 8gb 570 should do above 60 fps

jagged ember
#

i cap my frames at 100fps

little osprey
#

i do unlimited

#

i dont cap my fps

potent prairie
#

I cap mine at 165, but I did unlimited to see what it'd be at

little osprey
#

at unlimited mine is 58-60

jagged ember
#

i run 60hz monitor tho

#

so is it worth it to cap it lower?

potent prairie
#

No point having it higher if you can't see it

jagged ember
#

hm

little osprey
#

well going to lay down, back is on FIRE rn

jagged ember
#

just jump in a pool

#

or stop drop and roll

#

fire is not good

potent prairie
#

Bye lol

little osprey
#

lol

weary sage
#

hi guys!

little osprey
#

hey

#

@weary sage

weary sage
#

hey Sal

#

i don't know if this is a dumb question

#

but can you decrease the performance of a GPU (RTX 2070s) to be able to use an old CPU (i5 3570k)?

stoic island
#

No, and you don't need to

weary sage
#

ahh i see. Im thinking of upgrading, but im scared that I might break my CPU

#

CPU upgrade is down the line, figured i have the $ for a gpu rn

next kestrel
#

you won't

stoic island
#

Its not like 3570k used pcie 1.0 or something, even then, pcie is backwards compatible

weary sage
#

thanks @stoic island and @next kestrel

jagged ember
#

too much performance won't break your cpu

#

unless it's overclocking

stoic island
#

Yea

weary sage
#

not planning on overclocking until i can with a new cpu

#

🙂

stoic island
#

Too much graphics performance doesn't affect the CPU at all

weary sage
#

what does it mean for a bottleneck then?

jagged ember
#

a lower performing pc part is running at it's maximum performance, but this in turn limits the performance of another component

weary sage
#

ahhh i see

#

thanks @jagged ember

#

def time to purchase this 2070s

#

i see "Depending on the bottleneck you may only get a small performance increase because the CPU, memory and potentially other components are so slow that they can’t feed the graphics card data at a fast enough rate to keep it busy. " from pc-builds.com

jagged ember
#

basically, yeah

weary sage
#

is there a con for purchasing a card in advance or should i just wait till i have enough money to buy all the parts at once?

mossy sail
#

Hey I’m new to PCs and want to build one can anyone tell me the difference between asus GeForce rtx 2070 super OC 8g and asus rog strix 2070 super OC 8g

potent prairie
#

@weary sage If you have a good deal now, there is an advantage. Otherwise, if you can wait till the 3000 series GPUs come out...

weary sage
#

lol is this a trap. i keep hearing memes from pcmr about this kinda thing

#

@potent prairie just kidding

potent prairie
#

Ok then

weary sage
#

@potent prairie imma look it up thanks though

high coyote
little osprey
#

you know i always wondered this, which would be better a 6gb gpu with 1800 mhz speed or an 8 gb with 1500 mhz speed?

#

putting price and brand aside of course

stoic island
#

?????

#

Vram?

spiral flax
#

What’s better 2060 super or 5700xt?

#

Rn I have a 1650 lol

stoic island
#

5700xt for pure performance

jagged ember
#

2060 is more stable

#

And nvenc encoder

stoic island
#

Debatable with current firmware

#

Nvenc is true

spiral flax
#

But are most 5700xt driver issues fixed?

#

Like the big issues

stoic island
#

Most yes

#

And with 5700xt specific model matters as that card gets pretty damn hot

#

Some heatsinks just can't do it

spiral flax
#

Is the sapphire pulse one good?

stoic island
#

Think so

#

Just stay away from MSI mech OC and I believe the Asus cards

spiral flax
#

Kk

radiant oar
#

could any one help me to find a mechanical keyboard with cherry mx red or speed switches for a good price >>> from your experiences ?

stoic island
#

There was a good steel series one at a decent price

#

Forgot name

radiant oar
#

great .. but most of steel series are expensive .. I think 🤔

#

I need something within 100$ - 120$ ...

stoic island
#

Oh that gives you more freedom then

#

I was thinking you wanted the more 60-90 range

radiant oar
#

😍

#

it sounds great !

stoic island
#

Quite a few people have k70 and have good experiences with it

#

And @little osprey I still don't understand you swapped yours out for one with cherry blues

little osprey
#

I have nerve issues

radiant oar
#

Thank you @stoic island >> 🥰

stoic island
#

Browns

#

You're welcome

#

Blues so loud

#

They're kinda obnoxious ngl

little osprey
#

I still love 'em though

stoic island
#

Cherry browns are where it's at

#

It's got a click

#

Not so loud

#

Reds are fine if you want silent

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Or don't like click

radiant oar
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I agree with you

stoic island
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But I love the click

radiant oar
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clicky become annoying with time 😆

stoic island
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Eh, headphones on and with browns not blues, you basically can't hear it well and still have the nice click feel

radiant oar
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you can argue with that haha

jagged ember
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if you run RTX Voice, blues usually won't come through to the listener

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but blues are so damn loud it's ridiculous sometimes

stoic island
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@jagged ember we don't care about what our mic pics up, just what you hear while wearing headphones :p

jagged ember
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haha that's a more reasonable concern, ig

stoic island
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When you got loud asf blues like me, you can hear it while having headphones on

jagged ember
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yeah, you kinda can

little osprey
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I've had this for awhile now. Still love the clicky

stoic island
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Gotta play music to drown it out lol

jagged ember
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unless you have like good NC and your music is up

radiant oar
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not every body have RTX cards 🤭

jagged ember
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or just music

stoic island
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Clicky feel is good

little osprey
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Although as fast as I type it sounds like popcorn going on

stoic island
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@radiant oar rtx voice runs on gtx hardware

jagged ember
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with slight modifications, yes

stoic island
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People have done it with 1060s and 1660's and stuff

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Yea editing like one thing

radiant oar
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oh really ! that's new for me >> thanks for sharing it

stoic island
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Doesn't actually use rtx cores yet

radiant oar
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because I have GTX 1660 super in my build

jagged ember
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hope they release it for all gpus but

stoic island
jagged ember
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yeah it works well

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but that's not a really big concern for most people, ig

radiant oar
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what Monitor that you used that you can recommend it for me >> 144Hz (IPS or VA) 1ms ?

stoic island
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MSI g241 whenever it's in stock at b&h, 190$ for IPS 144hz 1ms, nothing wrong with that

radiant oar
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cool.. I will look at it ...👍

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what about ASUS monitors aren't they good ?

stoic island
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Some are, MSI makes good price to performance monitors when I looked at it

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Anyways any of the MSI Mag24[insert here] are decent under 200$

topaz frost
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Once prices aren't bloated how much for a new pc ill probably keep my rx 580 and powersupply if its still enough (650 watt) Hoping to possibly stream if there is a way i can make that happen

stoic island
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I have a Mag241c, good panel, no troubles

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@topaz frost if you want to stream, that rx580 gotta go lol

topaz frost
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Yea thats fine

stoic island
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The rest of your PC also matters

topaz frost
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So around how much USD?

stoic island
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USUALLY on normal Pre-corona prices, a decent build can be had for 600$, 700-800$ to round out some of the edges.

topaz frost
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Thats not as much as i was expecting everyone was trying to say 1.2-1.5k

stoic island
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That's if you don't reuse any parts

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Well here's the thing

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Pre-corona 1000$ flat gets you 3600+2070 super

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So um

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Yea

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Prices are bloated rn so that might be why they're saying that, but no need for 1k+ unless you have the money to spend

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600$ cuts a lot of corners though, like 3300x+1650 super

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800$ should get you 3600+1660 super

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Or maybe rtx 2060, depends on prices

topaz frost
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Ok

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Thanks for the help

stoic island
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You're welcome

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@topaz frost the market is constantly changing so come back here whenever you want to upgrade and we'll make a list for ya

topaz frost
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So if i can get a good deal i should go for a 2060 over a 1660 super?

jagged ember
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depends on prices and if you want ray tracing

stoic island
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Yes

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If you get a good deal

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I'd say like 280$ or less is a good deal

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300$ is normal price, decent price for rtx 2060

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2060 is always a step up

topaz frost
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Ok also 16gb of ram any where between 3200-3600 speed would be ok?

stoic island
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One sec lemme grab an example list

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CPU cooler is redundant, but someone wanted it when I made the list. Ryzen stock cooler is good enough if you aren't overclocking and only really game

topaz frost
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ok

stoic island
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PSU is overkill, I actually don't know why I put a cx750 in that list...

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Cx550/Cx650 would do just fine

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Whenever prices clear up, you should be able to get a good b550 board

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That's just an example list anyways

radiant oar
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Q : does 4ms response time really noticeable ? and should I get it or 1ms could be a lot better ?

stoic island
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Eh, 4ms and 1ms g2g is just marketing really, but there are a bit of a difference, generally you should be fine

tepid basalt
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unless you're at shroud or s1mple level

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no

stoic island
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@tepid basalt 1ms g2g can translate to 20ms color to color, while 4ms g2g could translate to 80ms color to color, which is a pretty big difference yaknow

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But it's just could

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Depends on the panel

tepid basalt
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I'm just assuming he's talking about mprt

radiant oar
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I will search about that to see what I am going to buy at the End haha ..

little osprey
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i need help choosing a mouse

tepid basalt