building-and-recc-chat

[little osprey]

It eeeessss what et eeeesssss

[stoic island]

Lol

[little osprey]

so, whatd yall think of my updated pcpp list with the vpn100 256gb added

[wary tundra]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tbw7jp I dont know about this power supply but this build is going to be so pretty

[stoic island]

Gx2 again?

...

[little osprey]

Lol

[wary tundra]

I wanted to throw in a 212 because its pretty

[shadow mango]

@viral ore yea its idling

[little osprey]

no

no gx2

[wary tundra]

welp

[little osprey]

oh lol

[viral ore]

its fine at 40c

[wary tundra]

what should I put

[little osprey]

nvm thought he was talking to me

@viral ore thanks again for helping me with that scam

Ok, time to put a temp pc build together

[stoic island]

eh

[little osprey]

and @wary tundra AMD comes with a stock cooler

[viral ore]

lol np

[stoic island]

lol

[wary tundra]

im aware

[little osprey]

ok

[wary tundra]

212 look cool

[stoic island]

AMD stock is black tho

also you could get a cheaper case

like Focus G

[wary tundra]

I know

meshify c pretty

[little osprey]

Ryzen stock is solid

@wary tundra I gotta meshify c

[stoic island]

and on the PSU

I'd also go 3300x whenever that goes back in stock

[wary tundra]

I know the psu is bad

[little osprey]

corsair cx is recommended

[wary tundra]

but I couldn't find a cheap one that was in stock

[stoic island]

CX is the lowest I'd go

for decent builds

[little osprey]

i believe its cx

@wary tundra

[stoic island]

BR lowest I'd go for cheap builds

CX good CXm mainly has coil whine

[wary tundra]

if the cx series was in stock I would put that

[hazy ridge]

The person above me has devorced parents

[shadow mango]

@little osprey i was gonna get that case but got the corsair 275r instead

[little osprey]

That's also a good case!

[shadow mango]

thats what im working with

[little osprey]

lol, imma be hooking my desktop up to a 75" tv so....

Sweet

[sullen spoke]

I thought pc was monitor xD

[shadow mango]

@little osprey thats tough

[wary tundra]

wait cx450w is in stock

[little osprey]

how so?

[wary tundra]

pog

wait

[wary tundra]

its cxm

[little osprey]

@shadow mango how so?

[shadow mango]

75' ion like dat

[little osprey]

i got it for free

What?¿??

[shadow mango]

@little osprey 1v1 me bro bro

[little osprey]

no need to spend $100+ on a small monitor when i have a free 75" tv

I love I I got a regal cup sitting on my desk🤣🤣

@shadow mango lol

[hazy ridge]

Can I have perms to send pics of my setup?

[shadow mango]

@little osprey i only play cs or rust or raft nowadays or golf with friends is a banger

@hazy ridge i think you have to be in the server for like a week or so

[hazy ridge]

Oh ok sounds good

[little osprey]

I play all kinda games haha

[shadow mango]

@hazy ridge you can @ one of the admin tho if you want

[little osprey]

Ark, mw, warzone, ftn, etc

[shadow mango]

@little osprey i was gonna get tarkov but it looks kinda wack

[little osprey]

Yeah tru

[shadow mango]

lol

[little osprey]

I know alot of people who like valorant but it's kinda meh imo

so back with marcus

[shadow mango]

ion like val its a kids csgo

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gwDJ9G

got as close to 1000 CAD as i could

@little osprey I think the cpu should be a bit more powerful for high refresh rate 1080p gaming

[mortal void]

@mortal void 5700xt over 2070S?
@little osprey
Its budget. 5700XT is cheaper and I don't mind not having RTX. The performance of the XT is pretty solid for 1080p

[little osprey]

It's cheaper in your country?

In mine there's a model of 2070S that's a tad cheaper than 5700xt is why I asked

@little osprey its already at 1124.06 CAD

any higher and itd be way over budget

[shadow mango]

i wish i went budget i think mine was like 2500$

ehhh i like the parts and everything i got

i was just ready to finish my pc tbh

took me about 2 months to even get all the parts

[wary tundra]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jBF4Wb the cx550w is back in stock so I changed some things. im going to let my friend pick his case so I just threw in the 275r as a filler

[little osprey]

Ok, curious to see what people can come up with. Looking at basing this system on a Gigabyte B550 (which one you can figure out), The parts I have or am about to order are already filled in. Prefer Gigabyte/Corsair, but like I said, curious to see what people can put together. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mkbwQq

[wary tundra]

also he wants a lot of storage

[shadow mango]

@little osprey whats your budget

[mortal void]

It's cheaper in your country?
@little osprey
Cheapest 2070 Super is $729 while the XT I have in my build is $535.91. And it has higher base clock because its the XFX THICC III Ultra

[little osprey]

say maybe $600-700 on top of what's already there.

@little osprey u bought an oem key?

I have 3 keys I already own

[shadow mango]

so about like 900$ @little osprey

[little osprey]

U paid 100 bucks for them?

The first one was free, the others were ... much much cheaper. lol

@little osprey good good

Ignore the price on the OS

It's funny how on my end it shows that price as $0, lol

And yeah about $900ish total

[shadow mango]

idek tbh @little osprey id just get the parts you want it all looks good right now

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Salvecai/saved/#view=kdbgt6 heres my personal list

Dang a 1660S trio, that must run very cool!

38C right now

full tilt, maybe 52C

Good

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550i-aorus-pro-ax/p/N82E16813145222?Item=N82E16813145222 vs https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-aorus-pro-ac/p/N82E16813145216?Item=N82E16813145216

[cyan glacier]

i need help

[mortal void]

hey wait question

[little osprey]

Ok?

[cyan glacier]

building first pc i need help

[little osprey]

Ok

@cyan glacier ask away buddy

[cyan glacier]

do i need a screw for my m.2 ssd

[little osprey]

Yes

[cyan glacier]

cause it didnt come with one

[little osprey]

Should have come with the MB

Yeah

[cyan glacier]

MB?

nvm

but the mother board only came with wires

[little osprey]

It shoulda came with screws

@cyan glacier what's ur mobo

[cyan glacier]

B450-F

[copper mason]

what type of airflow pressure do you prefer for your case ?
what type of pressure do you recommend for builds prone to overheating ?

[little osprey]

Ignore context lol

[sullen spoke]

anyone know a laptop for 1700 or less?

[little osprey]

Yes@sullen spoke

@cyan glacier it should have came with two m.2 screw packages

Mine lol

[cyan glacier]

@little osprey im extremely dumb and thank you for helping me

i may or may not have found it

[little osprey]

Lolol np

[cyan glacier]

they were in front of me the whole time and i was just to dumb to find it\

[little osprey]

Haha

It happens

[mortal void]

ok time for my question

does this mean the Mobo will already be at the correct Bios when it ships or am I being dumb?

oh boy thats small sorry ^^

[little osprey]

@mortal void yes

[mortal void]

@mortal void yes
@little osprey
Sweet, thanks

[little osprey]

@sullen spoke Aorus 5 KB-7US1130SH - 15.6" Gaming Laptop, Intel Core i7-10750H, GeForce RTX 2060, 16 GB DDR4, 512 GB SSD, Windows 10 Home - Only @ Newegg https://www.newegg.com/product/N82E16834725086?m_ver=1

[sullen spoke]

k

[mortal void]

I would assume the XFX THICC on my build is very much suited to VR lol

[karmic vigil]

Guys should i install graphics card before power supply or after

[stoic island]

doesn't matter

[little osprey]

[vestal sonnet]

what’s better a rx 5600xt or gtx 1660 ti

[spiral flax]

whats better a 3600 or a 3700x for gaming and light streaming and hw?

@vestal sonnet id go for a gtx 1660 ti

[buoyant flame]

Both will work fine, but a 3700x should help with streaming a little

[spiral flax]

is 3600 still good for light streaming

[buoyant flame]

3600 is a very respectable chip tho

[spiral flax]

and will the 3600 be able to run games well while discord and spoitfy is in the back?

[buoyant flame]

You can stream on it. Especially if your using a gpu encoder

What gpu do you have?

[spiral flax]

for gpu im planning on rtx 2070 super

[buoyant flame]

Ya. You'll be fine

[spiral flax]

k

will 3600 be able to run other apps while playing games

like discord

and spotify

[buoyant flame]

I have a 3600 and I play games while running multiple apps in the background fine

Discord and Spotify being 2 of them

[spiral flax]

k

is there a good cpu cooler for 3600 that looks cool and will fit into a white case theme

its okay if its black fan

just want it to fit with white case theme

[buoyant flame]

Hmm. Well ik that people will yell at me...
But an aio will look the best lol. Something like a corsair H100i

[spiral flax]

that wont fit my budget lmao

[buoyant flame]

Whats your budget?

[spiral flax]

also an aio that big wont fit my case

1350 USD

actually it mighty

[buoyant flame]

For just the cooler I mean

[spiral flax]

are there any cheap aio cpu coolers

other than the corsair h1009\

[buoyant flame]

Not any i would recommend

[spiral flax]

*i

[buoyant flame]

You could just buy a wraith prism off of ebay or something, its not white but it has argb

And it'll cool better

[spiral flax]

yeah the prism looks good

[buoyant flame]

Cheap too

[spiral flax]

isnt it 80?

[buoyant flame]

You can get a new one off ebay for like 30 bucks

[spiral flax]

k

[buoyant flame]

Pretty good value imo

[spiral flax]

is wraith prism good for 3600?

[buoyant flame]

Yep. Should keep it nice and cool

[little leaf]

yes

[spiral flax]

whats the overall difference between 3600 and 3700x?

and should i wait for the 4th gen amd cpus?

[little leaf]

cores threads and clock speed

@spiral flax yes

[spiral flax]

k

[buoyant flame]

Depends on what you have now

[spiral flax]

will the 4th gen cpus be cheaper or more expensive or around same price

[jagged ember]

I'd expect more expensive

[buoyant flame]

My guess is that they'll be slightly more expensive for the respective replacement models

[jagged ember]

Last gen chips should enjoy a slight price drop when gen4 drops

[spiral flax]

will the 4th gen cpus be better than 3d gen

[buoyant flame]

And they're already pretty cheap

[jagged ember]

Oh yeah

[buoyant flame]

Yes

Lol

[jagged ember]

They're definitely better

[spiral flax]

and if so do you know what the difference might be between 4th gen and 3rd

[buoyant flame]

No, there's no way to know that yet

[jagged ember]

We will have to wait until ppl test them

[buoyant flame]

Best guess is higher clock speeds

[jagged ember]

More cooresss

Nah no way

[buoyant flame]

They have enough cores already lmao

[jagged ember]

Intel: We need more cores!
Tim: we already have cores at home

[buoyant flame]

Lol

[spiral flax]

when 4th gen comes out will it be smart to buy 4th gen or the cheaper 3rd gen

or hopefully chepaer 3d gen

cause im assuming prices for 3rd gen would drop

after 4th gen reveal

[buoyant flame]

Depends on how the 4th gen performs

Can't make that decision now

[spiral flax]

k

is there like an estimate release date?

[buoyant flame]

Q4 this year

[spiral flax]

and also do we know when the new gpus would come out and what price they would be or for what budget

[buoyant flame]

They're also expected for later this year but we do not know pricing or performance yet

[little osprey]

76 bucks for a 1060 6GB used is a good deal right?

Just making sure

[buoyant flame]

Yes

[little osprey]

Ok I thought so

I'm gonna use it for an oculus rig

[buoyant flame]

Ya, good price

[little osprey]

Gonna gift it to someone

[buoyant flame]

Nice

[rare burrow]

Hey I’ve been in this server for a while and never really used it but I was thinking of building a pc but I had a friend who was going to purchase a prebuilt with kinda the same specs as the one I’m building and i wanna know if it’s worth it to build

[buoyant flame]

It usually is

You can usually get better quality parts for the same or less than a pre-built

[little osprey]

Yup

Prebubs like to cheap out on psu and mobos

[spiral flax]

nzxt is like the only good prebuilt company

[buoyant flame]

And ram

Theyre alright, very expensive

[little osprey]

Yeah

[buoyant flame]

Better quality tho

[little osprey]

DIY is almost always best

[rare burrow]

Okay

[little osprey]

If you know what ur doing

[rare burrow]

Well ive mentally built a pc and got all the parts on my notes which would equal to about $1100 but my friends prebuilt is about $900

[spiral flax]

??

[little osprey]

??

[rare burrow]

And they almost have the same specs

[spiral flax]

well like the parts for the build might be lower quality

[buoyant flame]

If you want, I can make a list for you for a good quality 1000 dollar diy build @rare burrow

[spiral flax]

like the prebuilt might have 2666mhz

[rare burrow]

Can I dm you? @buoyant flame

[buoyant flame]

Sure

[spiral flax]

so long story short i have concluded that i should not buy a pc until new parts come out

[little osprey]

@spiral flax what are you wanting

Intel or amd

Because intel is pretty solid rn

[spiral flax]

amd cpu

nividia gpu

[vestal sonnet]

what graphics card should i get for <300

[spiral flax]

also a lot of stuff are sold out and prices are much more expensive then stock cause of corona

[little osprey]

@vestal sonnet 2060

@vestal sonnet EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 KO ULTRA GAMING Video Card, 06G-P4-2068-KR, 6GB GDDR6, Dual Fans, Metal Backplate https://www.newegg.com/product/N82E16814487486?ignorebbr=1&m_ver=1

[spiral flax]

2060 super isnt is 400

nani

[little osprey]

I know..

She/he said 300

[spiral flax]

ik i saw

swear rtx 2070 super was 399

or is that 2070 super

OH NVM

thats non super 2060

yup 2060 is a solid choice

if you want you can also go 1660ti if u want cheaoer

*Cheaper

[vestal sonnet]

@little osprey thanks

aren’t 1660 ti just barely cheaper tho

[little osprey]

Yes

2060 ko is better than 1660ti though

Also np

[stoic island]

...

1660 super is better than 1660ti in value

[buoyant flame]

Ya

[spiral flax]

true

[copper mason]

What would you recommend as optimal air-cooling config for the following:
case:
https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-enthoo-pro-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811854069?Item=N82E16811854069
Comes with 2x of these case fans:
http://www.phanteks.com/PH-F140SP.html

If going for slightly positive pressure, should I buy 1 or 2 more fans
and set up the 3 or 4 fans so that intake fans have higher static pressure (due to drives cages) + airflow?
Ex: Intake: 2x of the PH-F140SP => ~164 CFM (more than enough to displace 2.442 ft^3 per second)
Exhaust: buy 1x rear ( OR, 1x rear + 1x top) fan(s) at 150-160CFM

[cloud drum]

When you buy a new Mobo does it come with all the SATA cables

Like for fans SSD

[silk estuary]

I had to buy my sata cables, but I also bought a pre owned mobo (i think)

[cloud drum]

You can use the same ones from an old gen right?

AM4 350 to 550?

[spiral zealot]

found a case for my retro/budget build. picking up a fractal design r5 tomorrow

white w/window

one step closer

getting it locally for only $25

[silk estuary]

I don't see why you wouldn't be able to, if the connectors are the same. Newer ones might be faster tho

[little osprey]

Intel, lol

Amd / Nvidia

[sacred obsidian]

new mobos come with sata cables, yes. And you can use older sata cables no problem. ive not seen one make a perf diff.

[buoyant flame]

Yep ^

[little osprey]

I've had a few go bad after a few uses but other than that no issues.

[spiral flax]

whats a good cpu cooler for the amd ryzen 5 3600. I want it to look good in my build and not just look ugly and standout in my pc for being wierd. My case is white and i am mostly going for a white theme. some stuff in my build are black for the black and white contrast looks pretty cool
i was thinking the hyper 212 evo black edition and i think it might look pretty good in my build for it has a clean black look and it might look good for a black and white contrast
any help or feedback would be very mucho gracias

[sacred obsidian]

only one i had go "bad" is the one with the metal clasp i let fall on my gpu and connect 2 pins which caused it to go up in flames

are you going to OC buck?

[little osprey]

Ooof

[spiral flax]

no @sacred obsidian

and if i do oc it will be very minimal

[sacred obsidian]

stock cooler is more than sufficient and I like it

if not, hyper 212 evo black is nice.

[spiral flax]

its just the stock cooler looks ugly

[sacred obsidian]

oh see I like the stock cooler lol

[spiral flax]

cause in a white case with rgb and shiteee it looks wierd

[sacred obsidian]

you could get the wraith? the rgb version whatever its called

[spiral flax]

how much

[sacred obsidian]

but the hyper 212 evo black is a good cooler too

uh

you can get it for 20-30 on ebay

[spiral flax]

will it look good in a white case with rgb in your opinion

[sacred obsidian]

its the same thing but square and RGB

but again, I personally like that look lol.

[little osprey]

Can't see why it wouldn't. I'll be using one in my new temp build until i get an AIO

[sacred obsidian]

and the center is not perma red btw. clarifying cause i originally thought it was

[little osprey]

What are the chances of one of my components getting damaged if I cross psu cables?

[spiral flax]

low

[sacred obsidian]

what do you mean by crossed psu cables

[little osprey]

Say I mix the cables of one psu with another psu

[spiral flax]

i think it means like different cables for different psu

yeah

[little osprey]

Yes

[spiral flax]

well @little osprey u should not do that

[buoyant flame]

I already recommended the wraith prism lol

[sacred obsidian]

usually you can't do that

[spiral flax]

that is not a good idea

it can work just not a good idea

[little osprey]

Ik but I think I did and I can't tell the difference 🤷‍♂️

I got 2 modular psus

[sacred obsidian]

its likely fine

but if you know which cables belong to which, id switch em out

[little osprey]

Okay because I just watched a Kristofer yee video and it freaked me out when I realized what could happen

[sacred obsidian]

share the video?

[little osprey]

Sure

https://youtu.be/Fdvelgu8uZw
Time stamp 6:15

[sacred obsidian]

but yours is already running and running fine right

[spiral flax]

why is the wraith prism not on pcpartslist F

[sacred obsidian]

cause its a stock cooler

[buoyant flame]

Ya

[sacred obsidian]

you can only get em second hand i think

[little osprey]

@sacred obsidian well ya see I took it apart to swap out some components and...

[sacred obsidian]

oh so you haven't booted it yet?

[little osprey]

No

I'm scared

[sacred obsidian]

take em out and see if they have labels on em

[buoyant flame]

You can buy a wraith prism new on Amazon i think

Theyre cheap from eBay tho

[spiral flax]

k

[little osprey]

I'll just try this later tomorrow I don't wanna try this just yet

[sacred obsidian]

also another thing you can do is see if the other cable will even fit.

cause they usually make em proprietary

[little osprey]

@sacred obsidian really?

[sacred obsidian]

they will have diff keys usually. not always

[little osprey]

Because it's a TT and a gigabyte psu I got the cables swapped up

[sacred obsidian]

sometimes they will fit but if the others dont, you probably have the right cable plugged in

[little osprey]

Okay I'll try it tmrw

[sacred obsidian]

alright

[little osprey]

Thx again

[rare burrow]

Is there anything that compares to the 2060?

[little osprey]

1660ti

[sacred obsidian]

rx 5600 xt

[rare burrow]

And what would be the best cpu for a 1k$ build?

[sacred obsidian]

prob 3600 or 3300x

[rare burrow]

I think I’m going to be getting a Ryzen 5 3600

Okay

And do you need an ssd with a lot of space?

Like is 1Tb too much?

[sacred obsidian]

you can go small SSD and big HHD, or just get a big SSD.

no such thing as to much space IMO

1TB is good

you can always add more space later tho

[rare burrow]

So is a 512Gb M.2 good for a starter build?

[sacred obsidian]

so like if you get a 1TB nvme and need more SSD space you can just get a 2.5 sata SSD later. you can also use HHD as storage

yeh

Id try to get at least 1tb space to start with, whether you want a 1tb m.2, or a 500 nvme and a 1tb HHD

[rare burrow]

Okay

So then a Samsung 860evo?

[sacred obsidian]

it will probably fill up faster than you expect

nah

go with like the MP34 or SN750

much cheaper, good perf

[rare burrow]

Okay okay

And for a monitor I might go with an msi 144hz

But if there is something that’s better?

[sacred obsidian]

MP34 is best bang for buck right now unless you can find a SN750 for the same price

im not savy on monitors

[rare burrow]

Okay that’s fine

[sacred obsidian]

just look for 1ms response, 144hz

[rare burrow]

What about keyboard or mice?

What brand do you prefer

Or if there’s any deals rn

[sacred obsidian]

for mice I love the Logitech - G502 Hero SE if you wanna go cheap

for keyboard I went with a cheap hyper X keyboard but red dragons are also a good cheap option

[rare burrow]

Wow okay thanks so much for your help I really appreciate it

[little osprey]

Sitting here comparing the new B550 vs. the x570 and really can't figure out what I'd be losing.

[sacred obsidian]

np i looked up the hero SE and it seems to be going for 75 now, but i got mine at best buy for 25 so dont overspend on it lol

uh something something about pcie running at 3.0 somewhere but still utilizes 4.0 or something

[rare burrow]

Okay and do you prefer going on amazon or like buying in person?

[little osprey]

I really like my Corsair M65 Elite. They're around $50

Try Newegg.com

[rare burrow]

Okay

[sacred obsidian]

i personally prefer to buy pc components in person if you can find a good deal, cause easier and faster to return if parts are messed up. but dont buy pc parts themselves from best buy. If you have a microcenter near you, go there. best deals. if you don't buying from newegg and amazon is usually the way to go

[rare burrow]

Okay thanks again

[sacred obsidian]

np 🙂 good luck

[rare burrow]

How much do you think a hyper x Mechanical keyboard will be?

[little osprey]

No idea, I have a Corsair K70 Mk.2

[rare burrow]

How much did you spend on it?

[little osprey]

Think it was on sale for $110

[shadow mango]

So why is my cords and all of that connected but my monitor says power saving mode

[potent prairie]

You plugged your display cable into your video card, not mobo, right?

[shadow mango]

Yea

[sacred obsidian]

was it working before?

[shadow mango]

Yep

[sacred obsidian]

did you change anything?

[shadow mango]

I put in a ssd

[sacred obsidian]

do you get bios screen?

[shadow mango]

No

[potent prairie]

Is it set on the right input?

[shadow mango]

Yes

[sacred obsidian]

take out the ssd and see if it boots

[shadow mango]

Wouldnit be cause my ssd isnt plugged in all the way??

[potent prairie]

You should still see the bios logo

[modern shadow]

Hmm

[sacred obsidian]

probably not but if thats what changed then take it out, if it still doesnt work you might have knocked something loose while putting it in

[shadow mango]

Okay

[latent dagger]

I just finished my first pc build: Ryzen 5 3600, XFX Radeon RX 580, 500 GB SSD, 16 gb 3200 DDR4, and Corsair CXM 450 w 80+ Bronze PSU. What do you guys think i should upgrade in the future

[shadow mango]

So should i put the back on or just turn it on

[sacred obsidian]

like the case panel?

[shadow mango]

So it turns on now

[sacred obsidian]

is the SSD new or used?

[shadow mango]

Why would a ssd mess that up?? Used got it out my old one its a 500gb wd blue

[mortal void]

I just finished my first pc build: Ryzen 5 3600, XFX Radeon RX 580, 500 GB SSD, 16 gb 3200 DDR4, and Corsair CXM 450 w 80+ Bronze PSU. What do you guys think i should upgrade in the future
@latent dagger
Depending on usage, bigger SSD would be my guess

[sacred obsidian]

m.2 or 2.5 inch sata drive?

if it has windows on it or program files it could cause issues but you should at least see bios

[latent dagger]

That's what I was thinking, thank you @mortal void

[shadow mango]

Its not i wiped it clean

[sacred obsidian]

you can try plugging it in again and make sure all the cords for it are plugged in properly, and try different sata ports. if it still doesnt work youll need a new ssd.

[still roost]

Pixifyツ#9848 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[shadow mango]

Should i plug it in while my pc is on or will that mess it up

[sacred obsidian]

no turn it off and unplug every time

for safety

[shadow mango]

Inplug my power supply

[sacred obsidian]

from the wall or the back of the pc, yeah

[shadow mango]

Okay

[sacred obsidian]

or just hit the switch but its better to unplug imo

[shadow mango]

I see bios

Its loading now

That was weird i might have just knocked something loose then gave myself a little jump scare

[sacred obsidian]

dont worry it happens. if its working now thats good 🙂

[shadow mango]

I was like what did i doooo wrong

[sacred obsidian]

thats me everytime i rebuild my pc or add something lol

it happens

i once spent an hour and a half troubleshooting my pc only to realize i didnt plug in cpu power

it was probably just something not plugged in all the way

[modern shadow]

Do I get a aio for 150 dollar of a dh15 for 100? If aio the which on should I get?

[tepid basalt]

Do I get a aio for 150 dollar of a dh15 for 100? If aio the which on should I get?
@modern shadow depends on what're you up to

[modern shadow]

I might overclock later on, and is planning to move to a r7 4000 series next year

[tepid basalt]

but if your gpu has a nice back plate, I'd say go with aio

dh15 is just slightly behind the best aio in the market rn

so performance isn't a problem here

at this point, it's all about aesthetics

[modern shadow]

I have space for a 360 aio

[tepid basalt]

360 for a 3600 sounds kinda wasteful

but if u want, go for it

[modern shadow]

Which one specific one should I get? Not worrying about thermal, just aesthetics

[sacred obsidian]

for asthetics id get an aio

[modern shadow]

Like which aio?

[sacred obsidian]

depends on price range

[modern shadow]

150 max

Would like rob fans

[sacred obsidian]

i love this one but its pricey https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082DYSQVF/?tag=vpremium00-20 lol

rob fans?

[modern shadow]

For the best

[sacred obsidian]

this one is 99 but idk how good it is https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835200123?Description=aio&cm_re=aio-_-35-200-123-_-Product

i have a rosewill case and its a good case but thats all i know about the brand 🤷‍♂️

[sand falcon]

For 3600 it doesn't need to be great

[modern shadow]

I might overclock later on, and is planning to move to a r7 4000 series next year
@modern shadow

[mortal void]

wow this is a nice monitor

[little osprey]

How are these specs

This is my friends setup

[sand falcon]

Respectable 👍

[modern shadow]

Better than mines

Is the cooler master 360mm rgb aio good?

[mortal void]

not enough RGB @little osprey

[little osprey]

He's streaming rn lol

@mortal void lol

[mortal void]

speaking of RGB lemme just go make an all Corsair PC Build on PCBS

what Corsair Case though?

[little osprey]

@mortal void hm

How bout the icue 220T rgb

[mortal void]

what size is that?

[little osprey]

Full atx

[celest spear]

So anyone got a fix for a brand new MSI Gaming X Trio that’s having graphics issues and causes the monitor to turn to black and come back on sometimes under a little bit of load. Tried the drivers 2 times and nothing. And it’s not the monitor cause I’ve changed that to 2 other monitors and same thing

[mortal void]

Full atx
@little osprey
DAYUM

[jagged ember]

I would just use my phone as a webcam

[mortal void]

@little osprey
BTW I'm running PCBS Lowest Possible settings on an i5-4590 with HD 4600 Graphics. Funnily enough its playable

[little osprey]

Lol

[mortal void]

2 x 4 DDR3 Ram too

[little osprey]

Dang

Aren't you building a new pc?

[near garden]

Any mobo recommendations for a ryzen 5 3600 ?

[mortal void]

man I wish I could get that. Nah its my PC Build for when I am actually able to do so

it'll be my first ever experience building my own Gaming PC

PC in general

[jagged ember]

B450, or just wait for the B550 lineup

but b550 lineup will have less usb ports according to linus

[mortal void]

Any mobo recommendations for a ryzen 5 3600 ?
@near garden
ASrock b450M Pro4

[sand falcon]

USB splitter time

[jagged ember]

asrock doesn't like high temps, keep that in mind

otherwise it's fine

[little osprey]

No it doesn't

[mortal void]

should be fine if ran at stock though right?

thats the MOBO I'm planning on getting

[jagged ember]

it should be fine

[little osprey]

Yeah

[jagged ember]

just don't run it 24/7,

but i guess that's for all pc so

[mortal void]

its not my PS4 lol

My PS4 is either on, or in rest mode

[jagged ember]

lmao

[little osprey]

help

[jagged ember]

but yeah that mobo should be fine either way

[mortal void]

cool

[little osprey]

i am desperate to find a case

all parts are ordered

all i need is the damn case

ive been looking for hours

[mortal void]

whats your preference and budget?

[little osprey]

100$

rgb

mid tower atx

[mortal void]

what country

[little osprey]

usa

[mortal void]

ok

[little osprey]

thanks so much

Get the corsair I said above?

[jagged ember]

mmhm

[little osprey]

where?

[jagged ember]

How bout the icue 220T rgb

[little osprey]

That's the one

[shadow mango]

my pc runs so slow lol it says i dont haqve any windows updates i wonder if its cause i bought a key off ebay

[little osprey]

shipping is $100

@shadow mango I did the same it shouldn't be that

[jagged ember]

nope

not it

[little osprey]

@little osprey what? Shouldn't be

[shadow mango]

any reasons why then it like stops loading or it freezes at random times

[little osprey]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-icue-220t-rgb-airflow-atx-mid-tower-smart-case-black/6370550.p?skuId=6370550

@little osprey

@shadow mango are your parts old?

[shadow mango]

no i just got a whole new pc

brand new everything

[little osprey]

will the 3 fans be enough

That's more that enough!

[shadow mango]

@little osprey 2 in the front 1 in the back depending on your tower you should be good

[little osprey]

it comes with 3 in front

3 is more that enough man

[shadow mango]

oh yea you should be perfectly fine

[little osprey]

thank you so much

you saved my soul

Np

i've been looking for hours

[jagged ember]

lol i stacked some fans in my case

that increases airflow, right?

[mortal void]

damn thats a nice looking case

[shadow mango]

so back to my problem with the random freezes amy solutions

[jagged ember]

I'm thinking it's windows updates

[shadow mango]

it says i have none

[jagged ember]

I'm assuming you aren't running old pc parts

[shadow mango]

no sir

[jagged ember]

and you're running an SSD

[shadow mango]

yes sir

[jagged ember]

specs?

also how old is your pc

[shadow mango]

litreally just got all the parts

[little osprey]

@mortal void the one I shared?

[jagged ember]

oof

you checked taskmanager and no processes are hogging cpu or ram?

[little osprey]

Is it a brand new Celeron? Lol

[mortal void]

@mortal void the one I shared?
@little osprey
Yee

[shadow mango]

@jagged ember yep nothing there either

[jagged ember]

hmm

[shadow mango]

let me try one thing real quick

[mortal void]

@little osprey iCUE 220T in white or black for this PCBS Build?

[little osprey]

White would probably look really good

I'm a sucker for white builds haha

[mortal void]

lol

I did a mini-itx NZXT only Build earlier

white case, white cables. NZXT Purple for RGB

[little osprey]

I used to do that same thing all the time lol

[jagged ember]

wish i could get an nzxt h1

[little osprey]

Simulate builds until I actually build a computer

[jagged ember]

that thing is so cool

[celest spear]

Yo JD

Oh wait

Pen

Can I pm you real quick

[little osprey]

My phone at 5% nawwhhhh

Aint gotta charger

[jagged ember]

nice

wish i had that game

[mortal void]

I mean

you can easily get it

[jagged ember]

$$

it costs actual human dollars on steam

[covert crypt]

Can someone recommend me an excellent gaming laptop thats thin and not over the top expensive o.o

or direct me to the appropriate channel

[jagged ember]

razerblade15

Whats your budget

[covert crypt]

under 2k CAD

[jagged ember]

ah

ROG Zephyrus G14

[little osprey]

Yeah it's a neat game

[jagged ember]

about 100 over budget tho

Dell's G series isn't too bad

[mortal void]

@jagged ember
$15.50 CAD G2A Global Steam Key

[jagged ember]

that's moneyy

[covert crypt]

oh that one i saw a review they said people would usually go the silver one 1920x1080 display

but the display is 120hz

[jagged ember]

mmhm

[covert crypt]

vs the black/grey one with 144hz

[jagged ember]

Get whatever features you feel you need

[covert crypt]

something about ghosting isnt that great or somethingf

[jagged ember]

honestly 120hz vs 144hz is not really a concern unless your competitive gaming

*you're

[covert crypt]

hm

i guess thats true and besides i already got a gaming desktop just wanted a laptop for on the go

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vTsgrV

[little osprey]

@mortal void how do you like the thermaltake toughram, I think it looks very clean

I kinda wish I would've gotten it over my trident z

[jagged ember]

ripjaws gang

[mortal void]

looks very industrial lol

[little osprey]

Ripjaws ugly man

[mortal void]

its Thicc

[jagged ember]

it's good

i love them

[covert crypt]

lol i wanted my pc all black

[jagged ember]

ROG G14 is a great portable workstation tho

[covert crypt]

no rgb aside from the AMD default cpu cooler

[jagged ember]

Linus was super impressed by it

[mortal void]

no rgb aside from the AMD default cpu cooler
@covert crypt
Same for mine

[little osprey]

I mean it performs well I just don't like the look lol

[covert crypt]

aight ROG it is 😄

[jagged ember]

ayy

just before you go,

what do you wanna do with that lapptop?

[covert crypt]

game on the go mainly Valorant, League of legends, MHW

[jagged ember]

ah

[little osprey]

Bruh any laptop can do that

[jagged ember]

basically

[covert crypt]

also want it to last a couple of years

lol even though laptop lifes sucks

xD

[jagged ember]

but also, some game streaming software exists now

[mortal void]

whats a good MOBO to pair with this Virtual Corsair build lol

[little osprey]

@jagged ember what do you think of the toughpower ram?

[mortal void]

I'm putting AMD in it

[jagged ember]

I'm thinking aside from valorant, the slight latency you get is worth the tradeoff

[little osprey]

@mortal void tomahawk max?

[jagged ember]

Toughpower RAM?

[little osprey]

Yes

[jagged ember]

they make ram??

[viral ore]

oh, thermaltakes ram

[little osprey]

Yes sir!

[viral ore]

that stuff slaps

oh, thermaltakes ram

[little osprey]

And I'm very tempted to pick it up lol

[viral ore]

thermaltake makes decent ram

why is my internet being stupid rn

thermaltake

[jagged ember]

@covert crypt you can check out software like Rainway or Parsec for gaming on a laptop

[viral ore]

test

[jagged ember]

why is it red?

[little osprey]

Mine too there's like a delete when my messages go through

Delay*

[spiral flax]

is 3600 good for some streaming and some light homework and also is it good for having things like discord and spotify in background while playing games?

[jagged ember]

wait what is happening

[jagged ember]

I've turned demonic

[spiral flax]

is 3600 good for some streaming and some light homework and also is it good for having things like discord and spotify in background while playing games?

[viral ore]

thermaltake makes decent ram

[jagged ember]

way enough

[viral ore]

yes

yes

yes

[spiral flax]

k

[jagged ember]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-flame-gif-4591965

[viral ore]

wtf

[jagged ember]

I've become a demon

[spiral flax]

will wraith prism and 5 3600 go well?

[viral ore]

are yall discords ok???

[little osprey]

@spiral flax not just light homework HEAVY HOMEWORK

[spiral flax]

will wraith prism and 5 3600 go well?

[viral ore]

mine is dying

[spiral flax]

will wraith prism and 5 3600 go well?

[viral ore]

are yall discords ok???

are yall discords ok???

are yall discords ok???

[little osprey]

Yes

[jagged ember]

anything is better than the stealth cooler

no

[little osprey]

@viral ore no!

[viral ore]

amd stock cooler on the 3600 is good

[jagged ember]

literally like 10 second message delays

[little osprey]

What da frik i going on

[spiral flax]

no

[jagged ember]

no

[viral ore]

IF I COULD SEND MESSAGES

[spiral flax]

whenever i text i have to resend

[jagged ember]

help

[little osprey]

None of my messages are going through

[jagged ember]

can you seee what i'm typing

[spiral flax]

not sure if its just me

no

whenever i text i have to resend

[jagged ember]

what the heck

help me

[little osprey]

Yeah

There's a big delay

[viral ore]

why did it send that three times

[mortal void]

anything is better than the stealth cooler
@jagged ember
Whats wrong with stealth?

[viral ore]

lol

[jagged ember]

lmao

not enough cooling

[viral ore]

lol

no

[jagged ember]

I'm running it and it is not cooling

[little osprey]

Boi what u talking about stock fan is fine

[viral ore]

amd stock cooler is enough

[mortal void]

not enough cooling
@jagged ember
But its the stock cooler for R5 3600. Surely its good enough

[jagged ember]

not enough, at least

[little osprey]

For light homework

[viral ore]

no

[jagged ember]

50 something idle

[viral ore]

amd stock cooler is enough

[little osprey]

I'ma restart discord

[jagged ember]

not enough, at least

[viral ore]

no

[jagged ember]

50 something idle

[viral ore]

amd stock cooler is enough

[little osprey]

Yeah

[jagged ember]

50 something idle

clearly something is wrong

clearly something is wrong

[little osprey]

I think I'm just gonna call it quits for the night my discord is being dumb and my phone's about dead

[viral ore]

thats on you, it works fine for everyone else, check case airflow and you mounting pressure and your thermal paste

thats on you, it works fine for everyone else, check case airflow and you mounting pressure and your thermal paste

thats on you, it works fine for everyone else, check case airflow and your mounting pressure and your thermal paste

[covert crypt]

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/asus-rog-zephyrus-g14-14-gaming-laptop-grey-amd-ryzen-9-4900hs-1tb-ssd-16gb-ram-rtx-2060-en/14575597

[viral ore]

is discord work?

[covert crypt]

this good? o..o

[viral ore]

nope

nope

[mortal void]

maybe intel made a bootleg AMD Stealth and ambushed the delivery on the way and switched em out @jagged ember

[viral ore]

nope

[mortal void]

maybe intel made a bootleg AMD Stealth and ambushed the delivery on the way and switched em out @jagged ember

[viral ore]

nope

[mortal void]

discord having extreme issues with @ing ppl

[jagged ember]

I'll check my mounting pressure and thermal paste then

[mortal void]

discord having extreme issues with @ing ppl

[jagged ember]

oh

[mortal void]

discord having extreme issues with @ing ppl

oh god nevermind its all going wrong

[viral ore]

discord having issues with everything atm

[mortal void]

oh god nevermind its all going wrong

[viral ore]

discord having issues with everything atm

[mortal void]

SMH Discord

[little osprey]

Yep

I'm gonna run out my last 3% lol

[mortal void]

I'm putting a Corsair H150i PRO RGB 360mm Liquid Cooler in this Virtual Build @little osprey

[little osprey]

Noice

[jagged ember]

dying

please help

[little osprey]

My messages take about 15 seconds to go through so when you see this, it'll have been 15 seconds ago lol

Back to the Past

[viral ore]

mine dont go through, if you see this its a miracle

woah

that was fast

YAY!!!

[little osprey]

Is it fixed?

Wait

[viral ore]

yeah

[little osprey]

I think it's better

Let's go instant

[mortal void]

usually best to put Ram in 2nd and 4th slots right?

[little osprey]

Yes

[mortal void]

what GPU am I putting in this?

prolly Asus ROG 2080Ti

[little osprey]

Titan rtx

[mortal void]

maybe

but it needs to have RGB and needs to be short enough

[covert crypt]

you guys think the 3080 coming out next year or this

[mortal void]

CPU Rad takes all the room

[little osprey]

Dang I've spent the last two hours texting on discord haha

[mortal void]

lol

[little osprey]

It's 1 am I need to go to bed

Hahaha

I should go to bed

[mortal void]

10:58pm her

here

[vestal sonnet]

11:58

[mortal void]

and I've been awake since 12pm YESTERDAY

[little osprey]

Welp we all 1hr apart

@mortal void dang

[mortal void]

I'm a Canada man after all

[jagged ember]

yes

awaken

[little osprey]

Linus@mortal void

[mortal void]

I'm always behind someone

[jagged ember]

you're behind linus in the number of things you've dropped

clearly, no one can drop as much as Linus can

also, wb discord

[little osprey]

Lolol

[jagged ember]

its not heccin dead

[vestal sonnet]

why does this exist

and what are the words to it

[little osprey]

[mortal void]

I'm throwing a Gigabyte aorus 2080 Ti Extreme 11G in this Corsair Virtual Build

[little leaf]

@mortal void why nor 2 2080tis

[little osprey]

Yeah!

[mortal void]

maybe

[little osprey]

2

[mortal void]

If it'll fit

[little osprey]

2

Dos

Two

[little leaf]

Or quardros

[mortal void]

the base clock is 1770

[vestal sonnet]

or u could use this EVGA GeForce GT 710 DirectX 12 01G-P3-2711-KR 1GB 64-Bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 Low Profile Video Card https://www.newegg.com/product/9SIAFJ8A0J6064

[mortal void]

and I don't think they have Quadros on PCBS

IDK

[little leaf]

Use rtx quadros

[little osprey]

Or rtx T I T A N bwhahahaha

I'm pretty sure they have that right

[little leaf]

Quadros more expensice

[little osprey]

Yeah but I don't think the game has em

[mortal void]

no titans either I dont think

[little osprey]

Whaaat

Doo doo

2 2080tis then

Aoris trio

[mortal void]

they have Vega 64 and 56 tho lol

I'm doing Dual Gigabyte aorus 2080 Ti Extreme 11G

[little osprey]

@mortal void do they have this

[mortal void]

what is it

[little osprey]

Radeon something

I can't remember

[analog hearth]

Radeon VII?

[little osprey]

Radeon Vega frontier edition

[drifting timber]

anyone know a good alternative to https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Crystal-Series-680X-RGB-High-Airflow-Tempered-Glass-ATX-Smart-Case/p/CC-9011168-WW

the only people selling it are price gouging

[analog hearth]

bru

[vestal sonnet]

mmm $5712 graphics card

PNY Quadro RTX 8000 Graphic Card - 48 GB GDDR6 - 384 bit Bus Width - DisplayPort https://www.newegg.com/product/9SIAN0MBMS7193

[little osprey]

Probably going to be that way for any decent case atm

[vestal sonnet]

that is the definition of

[drifting timber]

i got all the components ready to order except a darn case

[little osprey]

Yup, only reason I'm not building atm. Oh, and I'm selling my case, cause ... reasons.

[drifting timber]

ohh

yea its frustrating because i want to order everything

[little osprey]

@vestal sonnet yeah that's for them ltt workstations

[vestal sonnet]

[mortal void]

is Matrexx any good?

[little osprey]

Never heard of them

[mortal void]

Deepcool MATREXX 55 MESH

[little osprey]

Ahh, haven't heard anything bad. But don't have any personal experience with them. They look nice though.

[mortal void]

its basically comparable to the Deepcool E-Shield

except better airflow but worse looks I think

[little osprey]

4 eggs with 239 reviews, can't be too bad.

[mortal void]

I'll stick with E-Shield

[jaunty swan]

What do you think about the Newegg PC builder aka Newegg PC Part Picker, for those who've used it?

Sorry I sound like a survey

[little osprey]

Has potential, but needs the ability to over-ride compatibility to be any use for me.

And the ability to select out of stock items.

[jaunty swan]

Mmm, I suppose in a "future-build" list kind of way that totally makes sense. In a practical I-want-this-build-shipped-today sense, sounds like it would work alright (but of course which PCMR member would not wait for the best parts for their build? 😛 )

[stoic island]

I'll still be using pcpp as that pulls the cheapest from all retailers, but the Newegg PC builder has potential

[little osprey]

If i can't over-ride to select a case that I know will actually fit a board, even if it's not "meant" to. useless. pcpp can do that.

[stoic island]

And the lack of custom parts from other websites

For when Newegg just doesn't have something

[little osprey]

Can't even add custom parts Newegg does have

There's nowhere to select them

[spiral flax]

Is this good? I revised my parts list. Also for cpu cooler I’m planning to use the wraith prism

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V3XYGc

[potent prairie]

For 1440 or 1080?

[spiral flax]

1080

[potent prairie]

You could save and step down to a 2060s if you want

[spiral flax]

Or a 5700xt

What’s better a 5700xt or 2060 super

Also will I notice a big difference between 2070 super and 2060 super

[potent prairie]

Double check that the PSU you have the is at the very least C tier on the tier list in pinned messages

I think the 5700xt is better, but I'm no expert on amd gpus

Unless you have a high refresh rate monitor, a 2060s or eq should do you well on high settings

[stoic island]

5700xt is comparable to 2070 super, being slightly worse overall

[potent prairie]

I knew it was somewhere in there 😁

[spiral flax]

Should I not buy PCs until new parts come out?

[stoic island]

The longer you can wait the better

That's the motto ;p

[vestal sonnet]

what’s a good monitor for like around 250 or less

[mortal void]

whats a really unique case for mini itx or M-ATX? I'm messing around on PCBS

what’s a good monitor for like around 250 or less
@vestal sonnet
American? or what?

for Currency

[vestal sonnet]

american yes

sorry

[mortal void]

ok

[vestal sonnet]

Cooler Master MasterCase H100 Mini-ITX Case w/ 200mm RGB Fan, Mesh Front Panel, Built-In Handle & USB 3.2 Gen 1 (USB 3.0) https://www.newegg.com/product/N82E16811119374

for a mini itx case

[potent prairie]

Not super unique, but I like this design: Corsair 280x

Micro ATX

[stoic island]

H100 is nice but not really unique

It's just a nice box

[potent prairie]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1472462-REG/corsair_cc_9011134_ww_crystal_280x_computer_case.html/?ap=y&gclid=CjwKCAjw_qb3BRAVEiwAvwq6Vhvn-cKcDZSYnSbeAFxGRmOgxnjR6-5KHY_1uuQ7p-FILUn2iSkwqxoCA1wQAvD_BwE&lsft=BI%3A514&smp=y

The rgb version comes with fans and a copro but is out of stock and people pricegouge

[mortal void]

https://www.amazon.com/LG-29WK600-W-29-UltraWide-21/dp/B078GL93KG/ref=sr_1_1?tag=amazondn0c-20&s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1533042569&sr=1-1&keywords=LG+29WK600

@vestal sonnet theres this

[stoic island]

@vestal sonnet for doing what

Gaming

Productivity

Photo editing

There's different monitors for different needs

[vestal sonnet]

gaming

[mortal void]

the one I linked is pretyy good

[stoic island]

For gaming? I very much doubt it

[mortal void]

75 herts, IPS Panel

its decent for under $250

[stoic island]

Well

G241 exists

[jagged ember]

it's not curved

[stoic island]

And others

For 144hz IPS panel under 200$

[jagged ember]

mmhm

there are better deals out there

[stoic island]

Ultrawide also isn't great for gaming usually

[mortal void]

well I'm not experienced with Monitors lol

I just went and grabbed somethin

[vestal sonnet]

i don’t really care if it’s curved

[stoic island]

I set 144hz as minimum when looking for a gaming monitor :p

[vestal sonnet]

or if it’s big as long as it’s above 20in

[stoic island]

Like if you were just like coding, you'll need a bigger screen

But gaming

A good 24inch 144hz IPS/VA panel is good

[jagged ember]

technically you don't even need ips for gaming

[viral ore]

ips just look good tho

[stoic island]

You don't but it's nice to have

That's why I'd say IPS/VA

[jagged ember]

but then again, the prices for both technologies are pretty similar

[stoic island]

Tn just isn't great, worst case scenario or just sometimes the only choice

[viral ore]

yeah, considering how far theyve gone, TN is just about dead

[jagged ember]

TN is badd

[stoic island]

No 240hz 1440p panel other than tn tho

So that's the only choice

[viral ore]

ohh

[jagged ember]

yeah, but do you really need that speed

[viral ore]

well, 240hz 1440p is kinda an oddball rn

[stoic island]

Just an example

[vestal sonnet]

also what’s freesync and g sync

[stoic island]

Anyways tis g241 whenever it goes back in stock
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1539791-REG/msi_24_optix_g241_gaming.html

[viral ore]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475047

i like this one

oh

you beat me to it

[jagged ember]

gsync is for NVIDIA and freesync is for AMD

[stoic island]

AMD and Nvidia's implementation for syncing each frame vertically so you don't have tearing

[mortal void]

https://www.amazon.com/AOC-27B2H-Monitor-Frameless-Compatible/dp/B07WVNBY1G/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=AOC+CQ27G1&qid=1592460427&sr=8-2

https://www.amazon.com/AOC-C24G1-Frameless-DisplayPort-Adjustable/dp/B07WVN6CWT/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=AOC%2BCQ27G1&qid=1592460427&sr=8-3&th=1

I found these 2 as well

[jagged ember]

also eliminates the need to use the dreaded vsync

[stoic island]

Basically without it, it's possible for the monitor to display the lose half of one frame, then the upper half of a different frame

[broken anchor]

What is the best monitor I can get for under 110$? I will be using it as my second monitor and it will be vertical mounted

[viral ore]

check craigslist

[stoic island]

@mortal void first one 27in 1080p isn't good, second one pricing is off

[viral ore]

or fb marketplace

[broken anchor]

Ah ok

[stoic island]

It's showing 300$ for me on the second one

[jagged ember]

ebay?

[viral ore]

ebay monitors too pricy

[jagged ember]

okay

[viral ore]

cuz shipping

craigslist monitors are like $10

[stoic island]

24inch 1080p is the sweet spot, 27inch 1080p the pixel density is bad and the pixels are noticable