building-and-recc-chat

[cloud drum]

You think thell be better than rtx 2000 series

Yah it's AMD

[teal tartan]

Isnt the 3080 rumored to drop this year? Or have they been saying that for a while?

[stoic island]

It's every year lol

[cloud drum]

Idk

Is it even worth it?

[buoyant flame]

Supposed to be Q4 this year

Unless they delay it again

[stoic island]

Usually yes

for a bit

then no

[teal tartan]

Kinda bummed the ti was almost double the super

[stoic island]

meh

ti is always just the highest of the highest

[buoyant flame]

And it doesn't make the super any less powerful

[severe bloom]

There still aren't that many games that even have ray tracing thats worth it so a RTX is still just not needed unless you are dying for one

[little osprey]

Totally dying

[severe bloom]

I think when next gen hits that will finally change. Its like when Geforce 3 came out supporting shaders took a while for game engines to move that way, now its the only way

FFP (fixed function pipeline) isn't even taught in Programming books anymore, the same will happen with ray tracing

[jaunty karma]

how much will Ryzen 3 1300x cost used for a year?

[subtle snow]

How much is electricity over there?

[jaunty karma]

wut

[subtle snow]

Oh you mean buying it used, not the cost of using it for a year?

[frosty vortex]

I'd guess 50 bucks maybe.

Highest bid I see on eBay for one is 44 bucks

[teal tartan]

Has anyone ordered from Simylor their prices seem too good to be true 😂

They want 90$ for a z73 and its so tempting 😂

[fleet portal]

hey guys im looking for someone that is able to help me decide on a motherboard for my AMD ryzen 9 3900x please DM me

[subtle snow]

Asus tuf x570

Well also depends on your budget

Fgv can> hey guys im looking for someone that is able to help me decide on a motherboard for my AMD ryzen 9 3900x please DM me
@fleet portal what's your budget

[fleet portal]

my budget for the mother alone is 2-300 canadian.

[stoic island]

Need wifi or no

[fleet portal]

no

[stoic island]

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX77775

thats one

https://www.newegg.ca/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus/p/N82E16813119197
this is if you wanted wifi

[fleet portal]

thank you

[stoic island]

You're welcome

[still roost]

Pixifyツ#9848 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[shadow mango]

i looked up videos how to wire all the connectors from my power supply to my mother board and to my gpu i got the big one connected and my mother board turned on

any pics to help me

[stoic island]

What

@shadow mango did you plug in CPU power

Top left of board

[shadow mango]

can you send a pic

[stoic island]

It's just top left

[shadow mango]

or should i send a pic

[stoic island]

You send one then

[shadow mango]

No

Imma move those wires also

Just wanna get everything plugged in then worry about cables

[modern shadow]

Quick question: is b450 gaming plus max good?

[shadow mango]

@stoic island

[stoic island]

You see that thing next to the vrm heatsink

[severe bloom]

Does that aio need to be plugged into a usb header?

[stoic island]

Plug that in

That's CPU power

Up and to the left of CPU

[modern shadow]

Yes

Something about that cooler flipped infuriates me

[stoic island]

Don't forget put in ram sticks

[shadow mango]

im sos lost 😦

should i put thoes in now

[severe bloom]

You see the 8 block looking receptor?

[stoic island]

Wtf it's not letting me edit photo

[severe bloom]

4 pins top row 4 pins bottom black plastic

[shadow mango]

i know whewre to plug it in but witch cord is it there is so much

[severe bloom]

Should be only 1 cord that can fit it

Your psu may give you 2 of them

[little leaf]

Plug the cou 8pin from psu into that

Cpu

[stoic island]

There

The cord should say "CPU" ON IT

[severe bloom]

If you have a Corsair psu it will say cpu

[stoic island]

99% of PSUs label the cables :p

[shadow mango]

Non of my cords say anything

[stoic island]

Bruh what

On the header itself that you plug in

[severe bloom]

I have an extra laying around let me get a pic

[stoic island]

It usually is printed on the plastic thing

[little leaf]

What psu lol

[cerulean burrow]

The power supply lol

[shadow mango]

???

[severe bloom]

Should be a solid 8

[severe bloom]

That’s it on the right in your left hand

[little leaf]

is it a tt rgb?

[shadow mango]

Okay its in

[severe bloom]

So that goes into the 8 pin on the video card the pieces should slide together to form a 8 pin if there is no dedicated 8 pin and should have a 2nd one as well for the 6 pin

[shadow mango]

Yea it does there is a 8 and. 6 so do i need to just plug the 6 and 2 into the 8 pin

[severe bloom]

need both

yeah plug the 6+2 into the 8 and then the 6

Then you should just have any drives you have unless you went all m2 and the fans. Fans should fit on the 4 pin connectors even if they are 3 pin fans, will see a kind of channel on the fan connector that "slides" into the tab on the fan connectors on the mb. The annoying part is running those fan wires when you have a lot of fans

[shadow mango]

So is there a separate 6 pin or is it this one

[severe bloom]

its that one

some psu's have seperate cables for them, some don't

[stoic island]

GPUs have 6+2 most of the time

[severe bloom]

If they are SLI ready they usually have 4 cables but most just come with 2 since SLI is a dying thing

[shadow mango]

Sooo like this

Oof its kinda ugly like that but if it works i aint mad

[severe bloom]

A black zip or twist tie will work good to hold that loose wire to the others to make it look clean 🙂

[shadow mango]

I was already doing that

😌😌

[severe bloom]

Or if your case was fancy it might have velcro strips as well to use

[shadow mango]

Nahh it aint dat fancy

So what about these

You guys are gonna walk me through this

If thats okay

[severe bloom]

So those are usb connectors, the bigger one is a usb 3.1 or 3.2 the other is a usb 2.0

Your mb book should show you where to connect them, turns all the case usb ports on

[shadow mango]

There is usb ports down there

[little osprey]

it should've came with a manual, but if you want live help we're here.

[shadow mango]

I want live help

[severe bloom]

Yep thats the 2.0 one you should connect, should be a bigger one for the 3

what board do you have?

[little osprey]

it makes you feel better doesn't it?

[severe bloom]

I can pull up the manual and give better directions

When you plug that usb cable in to the 2.0 header it will only fit one way, look at the plug and see where the blocked pin is and then match it to the header on the board

[little osprey]

General 2 VC is open

[severe bloom]

that a b450f gaming?

[severe bloom]

ok your in luck

I just intalled that board for my wife and have the manual in her office let me get it

[shadow mango]

Goes

[severe bloom]

If you look on page 1-2 that goes on either one of #12

[shadow mango]

There

[severe bloom]

missing pin will be bottom right

That is the com connector its the one to the right of that

should say usb1314 or usb1112 on the board

[shadow mango]

This goes this goes into the usb 1314 or the 1112

[severe bloom]

yep

you should have an audio cable as well

[shadow mango]

Yea thats what that cord is

[severe bloom]

it looks almost the same but should say HD_AUDIO

Ah :p

[shadow mango]

Hd audio goes there

[severe bloom]

Yeah that goes on the one all the way to the left on the bottom #15

[stoic island]

PC builders would be so lost without manuals lol

[wary geode]

Yea

[severe bloom]

I don't really need them to hook things up but I like to read the specs lol. I killed an Asus Zenith II Extreme Alpha mounting a waterblock and it was such an amazing board, due to covid they were out of them and settled for a MSI Creator TRX40 not as happy with it but it works. It does have a better solution for addition m2's, a fan cooled pcie card that supports 4 vs the m2 slot on the Asus that could handle 2

[wary geode]

@stoic island thanks for the help here’s how the builds looking so far

[stoic island]

Yea at that point it's all high end boards just from different brands

Some slightly different specs

[wary geode]

Got a nzxt case too

[shadow mango]

Okay thats in

[severe bloom]

The Asus had more phases and weighted more than most computers and had a fancy LCD that showed the temp

Ok so that big usb cable should go into #6

[wary geode]

A320 for the win

[shadow mango]

So this is for rgb lights

[severe bloom]

That goes into #12

[shadow mango]

Okay any one

[severe bloom]

Is it from your aio?

[shadow mango]

Yea

[severe bloom]

Yeah doesn't matter which one

[shadow mango]

Okay thats in but i feel like the lights should have turned on

[severe bloom]

wait, you have power on???

[shadow mango]

No

[severe bloom]

or just plugged in

[shadow mango]

Just plugged in

[severe bloom]

ok whew

it will turn on once we boot up

[shadow mango]

The mother board lights on

Is that okay

[severe bloom]

Yeah the mb will always be on when the power is plugged in

[shadow mango]

Okay

Lemme take a sip of water

[severe bloom]

I miss that board 😢

Although it was slightly larger than eAtx so was a little annoying as well lol

[shadow mango]

What about this one

[severe bloom]

so that is the other case usb cable

It should go into #6

[shadow mango]

There

[severe bloom]

yep thats the one

So you should just now have the front panel (system) connectors for power/reset

What case are you using? It may have come with a connector for using to connect to the mb

[shadow mango]

These

[severe bloom]

Yep

[shadow mango]

Where they go

[severe bloom]

Your case may have come with a plug looking thing that they connect to instead of going on the mb to make plugging them in easier

[stoic island]

Bottom right of motherboard

Theres usually a diagram on the motherboard of how to put them in

[severe bloom]

So top 2 pins are PLED+ and PLED-

[stoic island]

Ye

[severe bloom]

left most

top left most on that are PLED+ and PLED-

[stoic island]

Manual might have a better diagram if you have the manual around

[severe bloom]

then the next 4 are for the pwr switch

[stoic island]

• and - usually matter

So make sure those are right

[stoic island]

Follow that ^

[severe bloom]

So yeah the PLED+ then the - then the power switch next to it, then on the bottom put the reset one on the exact 2 pins the power is on skipping the first 2

But again if you look through your case materials you might have been given a thing that plugs into this directly so you can plug into that and then plug it into

The case connections are all standard, just what you get changes based on case and I can't remember the last one I saw that had a speaker....

And don't worry if you get these wrong nothing will happen from trying to power on if they are backwards

And if its right it boots and you go into bios to set a few things and then off to install windows

[shadow mango]

Okay those are in

Look good??

[stoic island]

Arnt there more?

[severe bloom]

Depends on the case

But thats the bare minimum

[shadow mango]

No thats all

[stoic island]

Huh, I just remember one more 1x2 to the right in my case

But eh

[still roost]

Pixifyツ#9848 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[shadow mango]

So thats all the main stuff right

[severe bloom]

Yep, should be able to hit power on and boot up, unless you didn't plug in your drives

Well could still boot but will get a no disk error

[shadow mango]

I dont have my drives plugged in should i do that first

[stoic island]

So, aio pump plugged in?

Yea

[severe bloom]

Yeah should be those really slim connectors, they fit in only one way bc they have a weird L on the side of the connector

Oh did you plug the fans that came with the AIO into its fan connectors?

And what about the case fans have you connected them?

[stoic island]

Ye

Basically, if anything has dangling cables, find a place to plug them in

[shadow mango]

All that connects to a hub

[severe bloom]

So the AIO should also have a fan connector you connect to your MB, dont put it on the AIO_PUMP

the AIO_PUMP headers aren't always PWM friendly, but if you have them all in a fan hub that will work

[stoic island]

The header that comes out of the pump should be plugged into AIO_PUMP :P

[stoic island]

And best if you plug the hub with the AIO fans into CPU_FAN or whatever it's called

[severe bloom]

Eh I usually plug an AIO into the CPU_FAN to make sure its a pwm signal and I can change things

[still roost]

farpetrad#9121 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stoic island]

Pump should still be pwm tho

[severe bloom]

lol

plug that into the CPU_FAN so your mb does not "complain"

[shadow mango]

Is that what thats for

??

Thats the hub

[severe bloom]

That is a sata power cable should go onto the psu or a sata hdd

thats not the psu cable is it?

If it is then it goes to any sata hdd you have or some fan hubs/rgb hubs use them

If you have no sata hdd then can just tuck it away unless you have something else with a matching connector, typically fan hubs (corsair commander pro) or rgb hubs (corsair lighting node)

[shadow mango]

There is 2 fan connections and 1 rgb header

Aio came wit this also

[severe bloom]

I thought we already connected that reset switch lol

That little connector should go into the AIO somewhere on the cpu block

[shadow mango]

We did that came with the fans and on the hub it says case reset or mb reset

[severe bloom]

its the usb connector for the aio pump/block side

What hub is it?

[shadow mango]

It came with the cpu cooler

[severe bloom]

Ugh did you plug the wire into case fan?

Should plug the 2-3 case fans into that and that plugs into any one of the fan headers on the mb

[shadow mango]

There was this connection a 2 promg that led to a female 4 prong those are for the fans

It has to be

All the fans are connected to the hub

So this has to connect to the fan connection on the mother board

[severe bloom]

So the hub should have a sata power connection and a usb out

[shadow mango]

Yes

[severe bloom]

The fans should connect to it and nothing should need to go back to the mb's fan connectors, the mb will get the fan signal through the usb connection

[shadow mango]

Isb is already connected

Thats all plugged in

[severe bloom]

Hmm never seen additional 5v and 12v like that, wondering if its for rgb and argb extensions let me try to look up that fan hub

Did it come with the case?

or did that come with the cpu cooler?

[shadow mango]

Cpu cooler

[severe bloom]

Ah ok let me pull up its manual hold on

[shadow mango]

Okay

[severe bloom]

Oh ok

So that splitter cable

The two fans should plug into that and then that should plug into the CPU_FAN on the MB

Should be at the very top just to the left of the memory slots

[shadow mango]

I hve 3 fans

[severe bloom]

Does the splitter have 3 connections?

[shadow mango]

No 2

Lemme see if there is another one

[severe bloom]

ok hold on their site loaded the wrong manual when I pulled up the 360 ml

[shadow mango]

Okay

Ml 360 r

ML360R

[severe bloom]

here we go so they show a 3 fan connection splitter in the manual

[shadow mango]

Pic

[shadow mango]

Fans already in that

[severe bloom]

Ok that needs to go to CPU_FAN on the mb

[shadow mango]

Ohhh okay

[severe bloom]

there should be another cable similar to the end of that off the cpu cooler that goes on CPU_OPT

or could go to AIO_PUMP since its the pump connector

Then there should be another cable that goes from the cpu pump/block to the usb hub, Its #8 on that picture can't tell what kind of cable it is

RGB!

Then you should of gotten another cable #3 in the picture to connect the rgb cables from the fans to the hub through 1 port

Let me know if I'm going too fast

[shadow mango]

I just got the fans plugged in

[severe bloom]

Now doing the rgb?

[shadow mango]

8 is done

3 done

[severe bloom]

ok cool so idk why it has a reset switch cable that they expect you to use instead of the case but you can connect it where the case one was or leave the case one. I don't see it being marked as required

[shadow mango]

Okay ill just leave the cas eone

Case

[severe bloom]

And same with the one that says MB reset that makes no sense to me

[shadow mango]

What about the rest of these

Ohhhhhhh

[severe bloom]

2 and 4 are rgb and argb connectors that we will connect tto the mb

[severe bloom]

oh sorry next page :p

[shadow mango]

All the other connectors are for diffrent cou cooling

Cpu

[severe bloom]

well you do have the connectors on the bottom the 12v rgb

on page 15 its cable 2 or 4 they should of freaking labled it, the cable package should say though (I hope)

I think yuou don't need to connect it though unless you add more rgb than the 3 fans

[shadow mango]

Iyea i have both

I was gonna get 2 more fans rgb

Next paycheck

So i wasnt stuck with a stock fan that came with the case

[severe bloom]

So I think its only needed if you need more +12v signal from the rgb_header1 on the mb

The cable that is

These are crappy instructions so I can see why you were confused

[shadow mango]

So do i needa connect that if i add 2 more fans in the future

Yea i was really lost

[severe bloom]

Shouldn't usb should pull enough power

[shadow mango]

Okay cool

So now what

[severe bloom]

if you add some led strips then you might as the longer they are the more power they pull

So if thats all the cables we should be able to power on

[shadow mango]

Do i not need to plug anything into that

[severe bloom]

Yeah the sata cable should plug into it

Its that connector on the top

[shadow mango]

Okay

[severe bloom]

yep that guy, the little L on the end will match up to the one on the hub

[shadow mango]

Should i plug in one of my harddrives also

[severe bloom]

Yep

You should of also got a really slim sata cable for going to the mb sata connector

They are typically flat cables

[shadow mango]

Are these sata cables also

[severe bloom]

yep

[shadow mango]

For smaller ssd

[severe bloom]

so either end can go to the mb or the drive BUT if you have multiple then the L one should go to the bottom port on the mb connetors and the 2nd one you do opposite with the flat end to the mb and the L to the drive

Can purchase aftermarket ones with a longer L for plugging in above a bottom one

Or can buy ones flat on both sides

[shadow mango]

Do i need to plug in a sata to my mother board

[severe bloom]

Yep

on page 1-11

so ports 1 and 2 are the bottom most sata ports with 1 being the one highest from the board

They are stacked on top of each other

If your cable can plug in and go right into the back of the case then plug the L into the board, makes it look cleaner when it doesn't show anything but the connection

Its those 2 on the board

[shadow mango]

Let me grab a monitor and a hdmi

Thats all i need right

[severe bloom]

An internet cable as well

[shadow mango]

Internet??

Ethernet

[severe bloom]

ethernet cable?

yeah lol

[shadow mango]

Does it need to be hooked up to internet

[severe bloom]

not if you just want to boot and install

[shadow mango]

Yea cause i have work at 7 and its midnight lol i just wanted to do this

[severe bloom]

Ah well should be good to boot and install windows

The bios will make you enter it, can just hit esc and load optimized defaults for now

[shadow mango]

Okay

Okay

So now what

[fleet portal]

is a 600 watt going to be enough for a ryzen 9 3900x, ASUS PRIME X570-P AMD AM4, Radeon 5700 XT, and 32 GB of ram?

[shadow mango]

Cpu fan speed error

What does that mean

[severe bloom]

Just means its not detecting the fan speed from what we plugged in, go into the bios

Should have a tab or something that says monitor

[shadow mango]

My cpu is at 95f

[severe bloom]

so on the monitor tab it should show some fan speeds, are no fans turning?

and just looking at them were they turning?

I see 35c on that screen and that is a great temp for doing nothing

[outer locust]

Whats a good build under $800?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r6sr8M

I was thinking about this one

But cant seem to get a psu to fit the budget

If you could find any flaws about my build, inform me about it

And if you could get a solid psu that would keep the budget $850, please put it in the pcpartpicker

Thank you

[fleet portal]

snone here

i need help

https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-x570-tomahawk-wifi/p/N82E16813144310?Description=MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK&cm_re=MSI_MAG_X570_TOMAHAWK-_-13-144-310-_-Product

is this a good motherboard for a ryzen 9 3900x?

[pallid oriole]

Theoretically it should be able to run a 3900x

[fleet portal]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-b450-f-gaming/p/N82E16813119140?Description=ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING Socket AM4&cm_re=ASUS_ROG_STRIX_B450-F_GAMING_Socket_AM4-_-13-119-140-_-Product&quicklink=true

or this one

i need it for work so i need it i cant wait for the new 550.

[little leaf]

I dont think that mobo is in stock at bestbuy

[pallid oriole]

b450 will need a bios update

go for x570 for future compadability

[little leaf]

No it wont @pallid oriole

[pallid oriole]

no?

[little leaf]

As amd stated b450 will work with gen4

[pallid oriole]

yes but it would loose support for older gen processors as a result

[fleet portal]

what gen is ryzen 9?

[pallid oriole]

and if they decide to make a gen 5 it wouldn't be supported on 400 series motherboard

gen 3

[little leaf]

B450 should now arrive with new bios for 3rd gen

[fleet portal]

so i can buy it set it up and work right away cause that is what ned.

[little leaf]

What cpu do you have?

[fleet portal]

ryzen 9 3900x.

[pallid oriole]

b450 is a risk with bios since as it should be equipped with a new bios, it might be stuck on the shelf with an older one

power draw as well

[little leaf]

@fleet portal ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) ATX Motherboard with PCIe 4.0, Dual M.2, 12+2 with Dr. MOS Power Stage, HDMI, DP, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.2 Gen 2 and Aura Sync RGB Lighting https://www.newegg.com/product/N82E16813119197?m_ver=1

[fleet portal]

i have a 600 watt PS do i need a 750?

[little leaf]

@fleet portal unlikely

@fleet portal gpu?

[fleet portal]

5700XT

[pallid oriole]

according to psu calculation websites it would but id recommend a higher wattage for headroom

[little leaf]

Sorry I meant @pallid oriole unlikely

[pallid oriole]

im sorry as well

[fleet portal]

@little leaf that motherboard is sold out everywhere near me :p to pick up

i need to go with the b450

[little leaf]

@fleet portal new egg will ship it

[fleet portal]

its the best bet for me to start working gain.

[little leaf]

I dont know about the vrms

[fleet portal]

new to computer terms what si VRMS?

[little leaf]

Energy transfer

Stuff if Im corrext

Its the power delivery to cpu

[fleet portal]

so itll bottle neck the ryzen 9?

[pallid oriole]

how fast do you need your new pc

[fleet portal]

graphic design and video rendering.

[pallid oriole]

how fast do you need it to start working again, sorry

[little leaf]

The board I recommend above will ship and deliver soon because it should be in stock

[fleet portal]

tomorrow.

[little leaf]

Ah

I see

[pallid oriole]

budget?

[fleet portal]

im spending 1700$ canadian for this new setup for work effiency.

[pallid oriole]

x570 boards have a high probability to have proper power delivery to work for a r9 3900x

is the msi motherboard that you asked for earlier still available near you?

[fleet portal]

so this one?

https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-x570-tomahawk-wifi/p/N82E16813144310?Description=MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK&cm_re=MSI_MAG_X570_TOMAHAWK-_-13-144-310-_-Product

[pallid oriole]

yes

[fleet portal]

we all agree?

[pallid oriole]

or the one @little leaf recommended

[fleet portal]

@little leaf

[pallid oriole]

if its available near you do it, however think about a bigger power supply

careful with the 5700xt as well. im not too knowledgeable on it but I've heard that amd is still working on the firmware side of it

[fleet portal]

what would you recommend? power ise.

[pallid oriole]

600 watt from a reputable supplier would work, but see if there are any 650 watt psus or above for some extra headroom also from reputable suppliers

psus are getting harder to come by due to tariffs

[fleet portal]

i have a 600 watt corsair.

[pallid oriole]

thats good enough

[fleet portal]

ok sweet.

[pallid oriole]

is there an 80 plus sticker on it?

i guess its not usually on the psu, it should be fine

actually can you tell me the model of your corsair psu

[fleet portal]

check your DM @pallid oriole

[silk estuary]

"Thicc" lmao

[raw charm]

hey guys

quick question, does anyone here who has experience with AMD chips have any recommendation as to whether g.skill neo series memory works well?

i was just curious because i was looking into a amd build but wasnt sure what memory to pair with it

as of now im going for normal g.skill cl16 3600 ram

[cloud drum]

That's going to be a bottleneck GPU

[sullen spoke]

as of now im going for normal g.skill cl16 3600 ram
@raw charm 3600mhz cl16 works well with ryzen

[arctic jungle]

@raw charm brand doesn't rlly matter for RAM
3600mhz cl16 ram is 3600mhz cl16 ram

but ye that would be the best

[shadow mango]

im officially tired asf but @severe bloom thank you so much for all the help last night and @stoic island you guys are the best i really woulda been stuck if it wasnt for you

[shut rampart]

Hi I’m loooking for a upgrade

I have a 1660ti + I5 4690k + 16gb DDR3 1866 RAM

Mobo is a old asus h81m-plus

[arctic jungle]

budget @shut rampart

[shut rampart]

600

What to get this

[arctic jungle]

don't buy corsair ram

[shut rampart]

Then what do I get

[arctic jungle]

regular non brand name ram

[shut rampart]

And why?

Not to buy Corsair

[arctic jungle]

its too expensive

[shut rampart]

Anything else?

[arctic jungle]

any other brand rlly

g skill maybe

idk

search pcpp

[shut rampart]

No anything else I shouldn’t buy

Or should buy with my parts list

[little osprey]

what gpu

u have

on ur list

[arctic jungle]

I mean, make sure u have enough power in your psu

@little osprey scroll up

[shut rampart]

1660 it

[little osprey]

oh ok sorry

[shut rampart]

Ti*

[little osprey]

wow no cooldown this is nice

nzxt has a cooldown for 5 seconds and its irritating af

[shut rampart]

cool

[little osprey]

im gonna post a pic of my new pc when all the parts come in

[cedar night]

is there any mobo’s that doesnt give that warning? my cpu is a ryzen 5 3600

[buoyant flame]

An x570 wouldn't give that warning but is not necessary for a 3600. Most b450 boards come pre updated now so you most likely don't have to worry about it

What board is in that list?

[cedar night]

asus rog strix b450

[buoyant flame]

F?

[cedar night]

yes

[buoyant flame]

Ok lemme check real quick

[cedar night]

thank you

[buoyant flame]

Yep, dw about it. It comes pre updated now

You can see on the manufacturer page

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B450-F-GAMING/

[cedar night]

damn theyre sold out on bestbuy

what about an asus prime b450m-a?

[buoyant flame]

Yes, that is also 3000 ready

[cedar night]

thats perfect, thank you

[buoyant flame]

[jaunty karma]

does the 3500x compatible with b550?

[buoyant flame]

When the b550s are released, yes it will be compatible but why would you get a 3500x?

[jaunty karma]

no its been with me for a while

[buoyant flame]

Then why are you upgrading only the motherboard

[jaunty karma]

i have a a320

[buoyant flame]

Ok

If I were you, I'd wait for zen 3 ryzen to drop and upgrade the cpu with the motherboard

[jaunty karma]

but i plan to keep the cpu

[buoyant flame]

Ok, well even tho your mobo is old, upgrading only it won't really make a difference to performance for you

[jaunty karma]

or should i just go for b450

is 1 stick bad?

[distant night]

I’m getting that motherboard

[buoyant flame]

Of ram?

[jaunty karma]

yea

[buoyant flame]

Its not ideal

[jaunty karma]

oh

[buoyant flame]

I would upgrade the ram before the motherboard

[jaunty karma]

should i upgrade that too

[buoyant flame]

Yes

[jaunty karma]

well i can get ram and motherboard

[buoyant flame]

You will see a big improvement from it

[severe bloom]

My wife runs that board it’s a good board.

[jaunty karma]

cuz my ram is 8gb

[buoyant flame]

Which one? @severe bloom

[jaunty karma]

and i think its 2400

[severe bloom]

B450f gaming

[buoyant flame]

Ok 👌

[jaunty karma]

2400mgz bad?

[buoyant flame]

Not that great

[jaunty karma]

oki

[buoyant flame]

Especially for ryzen

[jaunty karma]

ill send my specs

[buoyant flame]

I would get a 3600mhz cl16 ripjaw kit

16gigs

[jaunty karma]

Ryzen 5 3500x

Gigabyte A320

1x8gb ram 2400mhz

Corsair Aio 240mm

RX5600XT

RM750

there

@buoyant flame

what should i upgrade

[buoyant flame]

I would definitely want to upgrade the ram first, which would cause you to upgrade the mobo aswell

A b450 should be fine

[jaunty karma]

but a b550 is ideal right

[buoyant flame]

Not really

Doesn't really matter for a 3500x

[jaunty karma]

but i see in the box pcie gen 4

[buoyant flame]

What about it?

[jaunty karma]

doesnt b550 support that

[buoyant flame]

I think some of them do

[jaunty karma]

not b450

[buoyant flame]

You don't need it tho

Its essentially useless for the average consumer

[jaunty karma]

but there almost the same price

[severe bloom]

There are no pcie4 video cards yet so it adds nothing

Next gen should be pcie4

[buoyant flame]

And b550 isn't out yet

[jaunty karma]

ik

in 2 days it will

[buoyant flame]

If you wanna wait then sure might as well get one

It'll last longer

[jaunty karma]

ok then

what ram should i get

[bold robin]

Team group dark pro

[buoyant flame]

Ripjaws 3600mhz cl16 16gb kit imo

[severe bloom]

At least 3200mhz

[jaunty karma]

let me see

hyperx?

[buoyant flame]

G.skill

[jaunty karma]

crucial?

[buoyant flame]

G.skill ripjaws

[bold robin]

This is 3200 14-14-14-31, cheap

Good for raisen

[jaunty karma]

gskill tridemt?

[buoyant flame]

I'll fetch a link

[bold robin]

Tridentz is overpriced

[jaunty karma]

royal?

[bold robin]

Overpriced

[jaunty karma]

i only see that

and corsair vengence

[buoyant flame]

This is what I would get @jaunty karma

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

[jaunty karma]

i dont think i need 32gb

[buoyant flame]

You most likely don't

[bold robin]

16gb is half price

[jaunty karma]

egg

[bold robin]

Best b die for the price, better binned than TridentZ

[jaunty karma]

i cant find that model

[buoyant flame]

Yes?

[jaunty karma]

from where i am

[buoyant flame]

Where are you based?

[jaunty karma]

lets say asia

[stoic island]

Wait what

[buoyant flame]

Hmm

[stoic island]

Dark pros have 16gb per module?

[jaunty karma]

i only see

trident neo z royal

[buoyant flame]

I'm gonna be honest. I don't know anything about Asian markets

[jaunty karma]

corsair

[deep skiff]

ayy dark pro sexy

[jaunty karma]

vengeance pro lpx

[bold robin]

They're newer sticks

[jaunty karma]

t-force?

[bold robin]

Yes

[jaunty karma]

is that good?

[bold robin]

Yes

[jaunty karma]

i see nighthawk

[stoic island]

Not in my experience

[misty grotto]

What is build-chat supposed to mean?

[stoic island]

Ripjaw v or aegis at all?

[jaunty karma]

crucial

[bold robin]

Not in your experience?

[buoyant flame]

Help with all build questions or talking about the pics in build pics @misty grotto

[jaunty karma]

b550 or x570

[misty grotto]

ohh

[stoic island]

I have some t force sticks

[misty grotto]

Thx lol

[buoyant flame]

Not x570

You don't need a x570

[jaunty karma]

why naut

[bold robin]

I'm running 12 at 3800mhz

[buoyant flame]

Overpriced and your not gonna use one feature it has @jaunty karma

[jaunty karma]

what feature

[stoic island]

Pcie 4.0

[buoyant flame]

Pcie 4.0, better vrms, more m.2s, higher supported memory etc

That is not needed for a 3500x and 5600xt

[jaunty karma]

well i wasted my money on 2 m.2 sticks

[buoyant flame]

What?

[jaunty karma]

cause i hab a320

so its just laying arounf

still in its box

[buoyant flame]

That board doesn't have m.2 slots?

[jaunty karma]

im not sure

[buoyant flame]

I just checked

It has 1

[jaunty karma]

oh it has 1

does it support nvme

[buoyant flame]

Yes

[jaunty karma]

oh ok

well i can use my 970

🙂

[buoyant flame]

Yep

[jaunty karma]

well i still have another one

[buoyant flame]

So if you get a b550 then try to find one that has 2 slots

[jaunty karma]

should i just upgrade my cpu

[buoyant flame]

Not really needed yet

Still a decent cpu

[jaunty karma]

oh ok

well i can save up i guess

[buoyant flame]

Yep

[jaunty karma]

should i get a 2080ti

or should i just wait

[buoyant flame]

Wait

[jaunty karma]

for the 3080

[buoyant flame]

Wait definitely

[jaunty karma]

wut

[buoyant flame]

I would wait

[jaunty karma]

ok then

will the 3080ti bottleneck the 3500x

[buoyant flame]

Yes

[jaunty karma]

oh

[buoyant flame]

When the time comes for big upgrades like that, as in a 1200+ dollar gpu, you can upgrade your cpu aswell

[jaunty karma]

oh

should i get 3950x?

or a threadripper

[buoyant flame]

Are you trolling?

[jaunty karma]

no

why

[buoyant flame]

Because that's a ridiculous question

[jaunty karma]

this will be a bday gift

[stoic island]

No no no @buoyant flame there are no stupid questions only stupid answers >:D

[buoyant flame]

...

[jaunty karma]

so

[stoic island]

Threadripper isn't made for gaming

[jaunty karma]

oh

[buoyant flame]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[stoic island]

It's actually very bad for gaming at the price

[buoyant flame]

I'm trying bro lol

[jaunty karma]

oh

so

3950x?

[stoic island]

Yea

[jaunty karma]

oh ok

[bold robin]

Second hand 7980xe makes mor sense than 3950x

[stoic island]

...?

[jaunty karma]

will the b550 supoport it

support*

[stoic island]

Why would that be

[bold robin]

It's better at everything

[buoyant flame]

A b550 will support a 3950x

[jaunty karma]

oh ok

[buoyant flame]

Gotta keep in mind the board price for that tho @bold robin

[stoic island]

Afaik 9980xe fights 3950x

[past harness]

Yo I need help

[bold robin]

Stop comparing stock

[jaunty karma]

do i wait for zen 3

[buoyant flame]

What?

[past harness]

I just got my computer put together and it turns on with all the lights but no display

[stoic island]

Bruh

Should've specified OC

[buoyant flame]

Make sure the hdmi is plugged into the right port

[bold robin]

Nobody uses x299 stock

[stoic island]

Some do

[bold robin]

Disgusting

[past harness]

Yea I’ve tried every port there is #

[stoic island]

I'd rather compare stock to stock, not everyone OCs

[past harness]

Can sum1 please help lmao

[bold robin]

3950x is ok but frame times in gaming eh

[stoic island]

It's like dark pros

Not worth if you don't oc

[buoyant flame]

This is the first time you turned it on? @past harness

[jaunty karma]

is the 10th gen intel good

[past harness]

Yes

@buoyant flame

[buoyant flame]

Hmm

Make sure the ram is seated correctly

[stoic island]

If you can get a board at a decent price yea some chips are decent

[past harness]

Ok

[stoic island]

10600k is good

[sullen spoke]

10th gen is power hungry

[bold robin]

I use Intel and 10900k is a meme

[sullen spoke]

300w

[buoyant flame]

10th gen is better than I thought it would tbh

[stoic island]

10900k is still ok

It's just a 9900k refresh
Again

[jagged ember]

Power draw though

[bold robin]

It doesn't make sense over 9900k

[stoic island]

Stock power draw is close to tdp

[jaunty karma]

so

[sullen spoke]

It’s a joke because all intel is doing rn is throwing more power into their chips, but yes they perform

[stoic island]

But once you try to OC

300w lmao

[jagged ember]

We dont have unlimited power

[jaunty karma]

my 750 w psu needs an upgrade?

[bold robin]

Like the 10980xe is pointless

[stoic island]

10600k still a good chip tho

Not if you go 10600k or any Ryzen chips

[jaunty karma]

for a 10th geb

[stoic island]

10900k you might need to xDDD

[sullen spoke]

If you get a 10900k and overclock then maybe

[jaunty karma]

oh

[jagged ember]

Mm

[jaunty karma]

i see a evga psu

[jagged ember]

You'll probably definitely need to

[jaunty karma]

1600w?

[jagged ember]

Big power

[sullen spoke]

3000w psu or nothing

[jagged ember]

That should do fine lol

[stoic island]

No need right now

[jagged ember]

I'd go for the modest 1000W

[stoic island]

750w works

Unless you're tryna run 10900k oc

[jagged ember]

Lol just don't overclock yeah

[jaunty karma]

ill think ill pass on the intel

[jagged ember]

Mm

[bold robin]

It's funny cuz w3175x at 8 cores still consumes 350w+

[jagged ember]

Ryzen

[stoic island]

10900k just isn't really worth it

[jaunty karma]

its a bit power hungry

[past harness]

@buoyant flame still didn’t work

[stoic island]

Don't opterons draw like 400w

[buoyant flame]

Check to make sure all power cables are plugged in correctly @past harness

[jaunty karma]

hokai

whats the ideal pc rn

is it rainbow puke

[buoyant flame]

Depends on budget and use

[jaunty karma]

or stealth

chat just died

yes its dead

[past harness]

Hey can I plz get sum help

[snow mauve]

anyone have opinnions on the lga1200 mobos? im thinking an asus 499-a and an i5 for a nice budget level gamer rig

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119289

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-10400-core-i5-10th-gen/p/N82E16819118135

of course ill need a 24/8 psu and some new ddr4 RAM but thats easy to get the rest (ssd, hdd, gpu etc will come out of my previous build

[stoic island]

Holy hell that's expensive

The motherboard is more expensive than the cpu lol

[snow mauve]

cpu, mobo, ram and psu for around 650

[bold robin]

Z490 Apex

[stoic island]

I'll have to check but one of the z490 plus was like 160$

[snow mauve]

its a nice mobo with rgb and its the 1200 socket thats pricely, it will upgrade well, im also building for the future

[stoic island]

Then add a 10600k

Well um

Lga1200 gonna be defunct after next year xD

[snow mauve]

its the intel 10th gen standard

1150/1151 will be gone soon

[bold robin]

Lga1200 already doesn't make sense

[stoic island]

Lga 1200 isn't going to last lol

It's the usual 2 generations and a new motherboard

[snow mauve]

so 10th gen and 11th gen? thats a pretty good run id say

[deep skiff]

yeah it’s confirmed for 11th gen

[stoic island]

...

[bold robin]

500w 12 core?

[little leaf]

Ye gigabyte confirmed that 11th gen would work on x490

[stoic island]

300w*

[bold robin]

10 is already 300

[stoic island]

OCed

Stock is still 145 or whatever tdp was

[bold robin]

125

[deep skiff]

isn’t that pl1 tho

[stoic island]

Don't remember

[bold robin]

4094

[stoic island]

I'll have to check GN vid again

[deep skiff]

pl2 is 250W and what most people will probably run it at

[stoic island]

Isn't 250w pl2 max not what pl2 would draw?

[deep skiff]

dunno

[potent prairie]

🙂

[bold robin]

G skill is overpriced

[warped mesa]

I love my gskill

[potent prairie]

Cheapest RGB ram

[little leaf]

No its not

[warped mesa]

Best looking IMO

[celest horizon]

But muh rgb

[potent prairie]

Cheapest 2x16 RGB kit in 3000MHz+

[bold robin]

Literally, tridentz 96gb 3200 14-14-14-34 is £1100, 192gb team force is £1250 3200 14-14-14-31

Wanna go there?

[potent prairie]

At least according to PCPP

[bold robin]

According to newegg

[potent prairie]

Not saying all their prices are the best

[little leaf]

Most of their ram is fairly priced

[potent prairie]

^

[little osprey]

Newegg uk or Newegg us

[little leaf]

the mid tier stuff is fairly priced

[celest horizon]

imagine having 12 ram slots to fill

[snow mauve]

https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164208

crucial is better value than gigabyte

[little osprey]

Don't think I'd ever agree with that, but ok

[stoic island]

@bold robin we're not talking b die

[warped mesa]

He wasnt talking about gigabyte lol

[stoic island]

We're talking cjr djr

[potent prairie]

That 2x16 kit is about $40 more than the g skill set I just got

[little leaf]

ye that 190 for 32 gigs is not great

[stoic island]

It's b die so yea

[deep skiff]

micron e die best value ram

[warped mesa]

Whats it matter if someone is willing to pay for something they like the look of?

[bold robin]

-_-

[snow mauve]

anything over 16gb is still kinda overkill unless youre heavy streaming in 4k or doing a lot of video editing and such,,,

[stoic island]

Why?

Isn't that 4000mhz

[potent prairie]

Some people like to have three browsers open while playing AC and Sims lol

[bold robin]

3200 cl14

The team force has better timings

And costs half

[stoic island]

Why is it cut off at ddr4 40..

And as we said

We're not touching b die

We're at cjr djr e die whatever

[bold robin]

Tridentz is disgustingly overpriced for what it is

[snow mauve]

because i dont need to have the fastest most expensive memory on the planet to play pc games..

[stoic island]

Not in the US

[little osprey]

Team force, I thought we were talking about good ram.

[bold robin]

LOL

How's it not good

[stoic island]

Ripjaw v 32gb is 150$, My trident z neo 32gb kit was 160$

T force Vulcan ram suck

Like really suck

Their only good kit is dark pro

[potent prairie]

Mine was $134

[bold robin]

Who buys tforce and not b die?

[sudden turret]

all ram sucks.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stoic island]

@bold robin exactly, most of it is terrible, just dark pros good

[little leaf]

I wish I had rgb ram 😦

[bold robin]

this dude really said tforce is bad

[stoic island]

Most of it is

[little leaf]

tforce is bad

[little osprey]

Yeah, I did

[little leaf]

the vulcan kit I had died

[stoic island]

Everything but dark pros

[bold robin]

Xtreem is alright too

[stoic island]

@little leaf mine doesn't run stable at 3200mhz

[bold robin]

Did 4600 cl15 on 7980xe with it

[stoic island]

I have to lower it to 2133mhz to be stable

[little leaf]

Same lol

[little osprey]

I love it when people insist crap is good. Sheesh.

[stoic island]

I hate team for ram

Dark pros are the only exception

[snow mauve]

whats the point of an OC if you have to drop it back to molassas to be stable? lol

[bold robin]

That's why people buy AMD, so they don't oc

[stoic island]

Yes definally

[little osprey]

And here I am with overclocked AMD.

[bold robin]

Inb4 RMA

[stoic island]

..?

I mean a lot of us have tuned AMD chips :p

[little osprey]

It's been running OC for 3 years

[bold robin]

I meant 7nm

[stoic island]

I settled on underclocking in the end for whenever I feel like f@h from time to time

Also it doesn't go above 78c p95 so I'm happy

I'm on 3rd gen

[bold robin]

[celest horizon]

Just run your chip default or pbo lol. Why else would you spend extra on a 3800x

[deep skiff]

^

[stoic island]

I didn't

[deep skiff]

pbo master race

[bold robin]

Meanwhile I'm peaking 900W in AVX256 workloads

[stoic island]

It was same price as 3700x when I bought it

Like 1 month after launch

So I got it

[jagged ember]

Yeah underclocking is actually a good idea imo

Reduced power consumption by half, near the same clock speeds

[stoic island]

Pbo gets too high voltage for moi

Don't like seeing it do like 1.39v on low load

[jagged ember]

extremely controlled temps

[stoic island]

I like my manual 1.1v

[bold robin]

I posted a picture of my motherboard with a Ryzen sticker on to a ryzen Facebook group as a test.

[jagged ember]

Lol i just run eco mode

[bold robin]

It was hilarious how many thought it was AMD.

[stoic island]

Facebook tho lol

[little osprey]

So, you're a troll. Got it.

[bold robin]

I'm a realist and that kid still hasn't responded on why his 3970x is the best from earlier when he owns a 10980xe.

[stoic island]

Eh we're all trolls

[little osprey]

Also, Facebook ... Yeeuck

[stoic island]

Esp according to box

[little leaf]

ew facebook

[bold robin]

It was a social experiment of aymd

[stoic island]

I'm the biggest troll

[bold robin]

[little osprey]

Wait, you probably think Intel is great, don't you.

[stoic island]

No offense but that Facebook group was prob full of random people that were AMD fanboys because it was popular to do so

Without any knowledge :p

[bold robin]

That's how most fanboys are

[stoic island]

Mhm

[bold robin]

They'll take anything that's given to them from reviews

[stoic island]

I'm an AMD fanboy because Intel offerings for my budget is not as good as AMD offerings

[bold robin]

I have AMD and Intel, am I a fanboy?

[jagged ember]

same

except for not having intel

[little leaf]

One of the people at my school keeps recommending a i797000k and 2060 super with a 250$ mobo and I say thats terrible and no one listens to me lol

[stoic island]

Not really

Lol

Motherboards too expensive for intel

Chips are fine

[jagged ember]

It's not that bad but yeah

[stoic island]

Motherboards not so much

[jagged ember]

mobo is the only sad thing

[little leaf]

Isn't there like b460 comming out though

[stoic island]

Yea but limited ram speed might still be a thing

[bold robin]

It's not my fault the W-3175X beats the 3970X in Blender at the same clock speeds due to their lower IPC, memory bandwidth, slower cache and etc

[stoic island]

And locked OCing

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[bold robin]

And their AVX is trash

No offense

[little leaf]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157950?Item=N82E16813157950&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FM6drxr%2Fasrock-b460m-steel-legend-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-b460m-steel-legend&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-Nv74aqtIbY1Ky2Kyywk1Hw how can you buy this lol

[stoic island]

3970x is still cheaper MSRP tho

Anyways

[bold robin]

[little leaf]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157931

[stoic island]

Ok

[celest horizon]

Did you really just copy and paste that from cody lol

[bold robin]

Yes

[stoic island]

Huh a bit better now

[bold robin]

Too lazy to type

[stoic island]

2933 instead of 2666

Still not great

But an improvement

[bold robin]

Who wanted that 10600k build again?

They disappeared

[stoic island]

We'll have to see benchmarks nd stuff

Nah they wanted something else I just suggested 10600k

[little osprey]

Intel doesn't like benchmarks

[jagged ember]

haha yeah

[stoic island]

Also pretty sure that was the guy from Vietnam

Lazada

[jagged ember]

'please don't compare benchmark results'

[eager chasm]

Intel: "Please don't compare us directly to 4th Gen Ryzen"

[deep skiff]