#building-and-recc-chat

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agile bear
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what is working?

fallen atlas
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The fans xD

waxen finch
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I need help configuring fans for my Lian Li 011 dynamic, I have 8 in total where should I put them?

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As of now I have 2 as exhaust on top 3 as intake on bottom and possible 3 as exhaust

agile bear
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are you aio? @waxen finch

waxen finch
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Yes

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I have an aio on top

agile bear
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@fallen atlas does your motherboard have debug leds?

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agile bear
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Id say have your fans at the bottom and do a chimney @waxen finch

spiral zealot
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if you're running aio as intake through the rad, i'd go with intake on top/front, and exhaust on back/bottom, assuming you have decent clearance underneath

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looking at images of the case, not sure if you can do front fans though

agile bear
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I would say dont put any expelling out the side so that you have max airflow to rad

spiral zealot
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if you can't, then aio as intake, and back/bottom as exhaust

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oh wait, yeah, i see how it's set up

waxen finch
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What it looks like rn

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Top 2 are exhaust and 3 on bottom are intake

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I have 3 more fans but I don’t know if I should do intake or exhaust

spiral zealot
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i'm personally just not a fan of doing exhaust through radiator, because it's warm air you're pulling through

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from inside the case

waxen finch
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So what should I do?

agile bear
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you could do push pull if you wanted to

waxen finch
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Hm

agile bear
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this is just an idea

spiral zealot
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that could work, ultimately you want to lean a little towards positive pressure, which means more intake cfm than exhaust cfm

agile bear
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but you could put rad there so it draws in fresher air from bottom and exhaust at top

sand falcon
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Generally you want about the same in and out, but a bit more in

agile bear
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that would just be some fan tuning

spiral zealot
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if your exhaust is higher, you're gonna be pulling air in through all the unfiltered gaps in the case

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and that's just more dust

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neutral is ideal like Bob said, but that is pretty hard to achieve, so leaning towards more intake is usually the way to go

waxen finch
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Should I do maybe intake as side ?

agile bear
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is the bottom filtered?

waxen finch
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Yeah

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Bottom and top is filtered

agile bear
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im guessing side isnt then

spiral zealot
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you could intake through bottom/top and exhaust through the side then

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and push out where there's no filter

agile bear
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I think intake top and bottom is a bad idea

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youd be fighting the assisted convection

waxen finch
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So which is more ideal?

spiral zealot
agile bear
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Personally Id say out on top and side just for the temp benefit and if you dont put it on the floor dust management shouldn't be horrible

spiral zealot
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and it looks his best overall temps were top/bottom intake

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and side exhaust

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with an aio on top

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he has a chart at 5:57

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he does have a 360 top aio though

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and it looks like yours is 240

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so numbers might be a little different

waxen finch
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Yeah it’s a 240

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Ima test that out

spiral zealot
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his gpu temp was higher in that config, but under full load, he had a better balance between cpu/gpu temps with top/bottom intake and side exhaust

waxen finch
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Ima try his config

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Top and bottom as intake and side as exhaust

west pelican
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I have a problem I need technical support

sacred obsidian
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what is wrong

west pelican
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I have a problem I need technical support Is someone help me?

spiral zealot
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@west pelican what is your problem?

sacred obsidian
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he dm'd me

spiral zealot
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me too

sacred obsidian
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its that the newegg servers are messing up

fallen atlas
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Hey guys, so I put together a build using the following components :

CPU : AMD Ryzen 3 1200
Motherboard: ASUS Prime B450M-A
GPU: GIGABYTE Radeon RX 570 DirectX 12

I cant get the CPU to display anything on the screen - lights turn on, fans run. I've double checked the connections and I fear the Bios may not be compatible with the CPU.

Has anyone run into this issue?

spiral zealot
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i think that would be an admin/neweggservice problem, yes? @sacred obsidian

midnight pelican
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@fallen atlas are your gpu cables plugged in

spiral zealot
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yeah, make sure you're plugged into the gpu not the motherboard

sacred obsidian
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yeh but its more of a servers are overloading, just give it time i would assume

fallen atlas
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The GPU is powered and the cables run from the GPU to the monitor

spiral zealot
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hm

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it could be a bios issue. do you have another gpu or anything you could try? just to make sure the card isn't faulty?

sacred obsidian
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check that the ram is plugged in all the way

fallen atlas
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My brother and I just swapped the GPU over to check if the one i bought was faulty.

sacred obsidian
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check that all the connections are plugged in all the way as well

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you could also try using one stick of ram in the far right slot

fallen atlas
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We're gone over the connections for the last 4 days X_X but I dont think I've tried the one RAM stick to the right

midnight pelican
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are you getting any thing on your screen?

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or is it just not turning on

spiral zealot
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he's getting power to the board and case, fans and everything are spinning up

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just no display output

midnight pelican
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yeah

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if hes not getting a boot error or smth on the screen

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like its not turning on at all it could be a monitor issue

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you could try swapping out the hdmi cables or the monitor

spiral zealot
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good point, i've had hdmi cables crap out on me and i've torn my hair out trying to figure out the problem

fallen atlas
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Yeah there's simply no signal being received by the monitor. I've tried it on 3 monitors with an HDMI and an HDMI - to - VGA cable

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even tried it on my TV that has HDMI port.

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The monitors ive used also come from other working PC's

midnight pelican
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have you tried using another hdmi cable

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what happened when you swapped out your card?

fallen atlas
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Yeah

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on using a different HDMI

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Same results : motherboard lights up, fans turn but no signal received by the monitor.

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Unfortunately this board doesnt have troubleshooting LED's

spiral zealot
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it shouldn't be a bios thing, the 1200 is zen, and B450 supports zen out of the box

midnight pelican
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did you try that card with a monitor you know works?

spiral zealot
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if it was a 3000 series cpu, it could be a bios thing

midnight pelican
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yeah it shouldnt be a bios issue

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at this point it could be youve got a dead cpu

fallen atlas
spiral zealot
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or it could be a bad pci-e slot for the GPU, can you move the card to another PCI-e slot?

fallen atlas
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Was the CPU bought

spiral zealot
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it won't run at full speed in anything other than the top one, but it will let you test the slot on the board itself

midnight pelican
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yeah try that^

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that cpu shouldnt have any bios issues with the motherboard

spiral zealot
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yeah, at this point i'm thinking it has to be either the CPU or the board

midnight pelican
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yeah

spiral zealot
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and if it's the board, it's probably just the pci slot, because if the board was dead overall, you wouldn't be getting power to fans etc

midnight pelican
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and its not getting any output?

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no windows errors or anything just straight up black?

fallen atlas
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This board only has one PCI slot

midnight pelican
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hm

fallen atlas
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Yeah just black

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screen says " no signal, check your device is on"

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So whats even more frustrating

spiral zealot
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ooh yeah, that's the mini-itx board

midnight pelican
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well if your brother doesnt mind then you can try to ask him to test his board out if its a ryzen board

fallen atlas
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is these two items were replacements from a previous purchase with the same issue

midnight pelican
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hmmmmmmm

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whats your psu?

fallen atlas
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Sorry, whats PSU?

spiral zealot
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power supply

midnight pelican
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i dont know if it could be a storage issue because you would still get a no boot media correct?

fallen atlas
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Insignia NS-PCW4508

spiral zealot
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yeah, you'd still get display if it was a storage issue

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it sounds like either no post at all, or post but no display

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and if you've swapped the GPU already

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and you only have the one slot to test with

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it still comes back to either the board or the CPU

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do you have another ryzen CPU to test with?

midnight pelican
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it seems highly unlikely that its the board since its a replacement

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it could be but its unlikely to have two faulty boards

spiral zealot
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unlikely but not impossible

fallen atlas
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Negative on the additional CPU

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and the current CPU is also a replacement

midnight pelican
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hmmmmmmmm

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hm

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hmmm

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this one is a tuffy

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try a different psu

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just

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for the sake of it

fallen atlas
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We did that as well T_T

midnight pelican
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maybe its the case

fallen atlas
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I bought a new PSU and HDMI cable like two days ago to try rule them out

midnight pelican
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ok so my reccomendation is right now to take everything out of the case and build a test bench with only the core components

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that way its easier to rule out certain things

spiral zealot
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yeah, make sure the case isn't shorting anything out or anything like that

midnight pelican
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and you can try to swap out parts to see if u can get an output

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because at this point youve built a whole new computer and still no post

spiral zealot
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if it still just won't do anything, my best guess is the CPU

midnight pelican
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did you read the manual ;-;

spiral zealot
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but it's worth trying to eliminate all the variables

fallen atlas
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The case was recycled from my dad's old PC that was running fine with the components its had but I see your point because we've done all this mounted to the case.

midnight pelican
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plus it will be easier to swap stuff out when eliminating components

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and have you tried using that rx570 in a working computer

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to make sure that it works

fallen atlas
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I haven't but eve with the card that was previously on there it didnt display.

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At this point I'm considering returning everything and buying an already built PC ; unfortunately, at this point some of the components have been with me more than the 30 days - do you think NewEgg might still accept them? Everyone I've talked to about this has been like " what more can you possibly change if you're on your 2nd motherboard, cpu and psu ? '"

midnight pelican
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youve already built two different computers lol

spiral zealot
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yeah lol

fallen atlas
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lmfao fml

midnight pelican
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maybe you need to change your monitor output?

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like the channel

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which hdmi its supposed to be displaying

fallen atlas
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lol I wish, we made sure to tune into the appropriate one

midnight pelican
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have u tried a different outlet

fallen atlas
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As in power outlet for the PC? Multiple in different parts of the house

spiral zealot
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one thing to keep in mind, insignia isn't the best brand in the world, so there is a possibility that the PSU is what killed the board/cpu in the first place. if you do end up rebuilding and trying again, try either the replacement PSU you bought or a bigger brand, corsair/evga/seasonic/etc, just to be sure

midnight pelican
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is the cpu power plugged in?

spiral zealot
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yeah, the smaller power connector up near the top edge of the board needs to be connected as well as the 24-pin on the side

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i forget if the asus board is a 4 pin or 8 pin

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probably 8

fallen atlas
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Both set of pins are in - at first we missed the 8 pin connection but even after its been the same

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lol ill be very hesitant to try another build for a while tbh.

midnight pelican
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is it a modular or fixed psu?

fallen atlas
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Its fixed

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I only bought to try and rule out the original psu, just ran to best buy to get one.

midnight pelican
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are you sure you used the correct 8 pin for the gpu/ cpu power

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they are both 8 pin connectors but theyre shaped slightly different

fallen atlas
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For the 8 pin I paired two 4-pin connectors

midnight pelican
fallen atlas
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Plugging them in didnt feel forced and all the wires were aligned consistently.

midnight pelican
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the 8pin for cpu or gpu?

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if its split the 8pin gpu should be a 6+2

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if its for the cpu it should be 4+4

fallen atlas
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For the CPU we did 4+4

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for the GPU it required an 8-pin so I bought a 6-to-8 pin adapter

sand falcon
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I think that 8pin cpu and 8pin gpu have the same pinout?

midnight pelican
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the psu didnt come with an 8pin?

sand falcon
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Aren't they?

midnight pelican
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they look similar so its easy to mix up

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but they do

fallen atlas
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Unfortunately the PSU didnt come with an 8pin

midnight pelican
sand falcon
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Of course

fallen atlas
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Yeah we noticed for the GPU the pin sockets had a specific shape on the corners

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Like that ^

sand falcon
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The polarities are reversed? Seriously?

celest horizon
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Yep lol

sand falcon
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why

fallen atlas
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I was wondering about that

celest horizon
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It's really hard to force an 8 pin EPS cable into a pcie header or vice versa though.

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Still stupid that they're reversed.

fallen atlas
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But glad to see that's correct

midnight pelican
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whats that mean

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that theyre reversed?

sand falcon
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They have vcc and gnd on opposite pins

midnight pelican
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yup idk what that means

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@fallen atlas and you are completly sure its not you? have you had someone else try to hit the power button?

sand falcon
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Positive power and negative power are flipped, like a battery that gets put in backwards

little osprey
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facepalm

midnight pelican
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weird

fallen atlas
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I mean its my birthday today so knowing my luck it prob is me xD

midnight pelican
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happy birthday doe!

fallen atlas
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Thanks man

midnight pelican
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ok so weve tried everything ;-;

spiral zealot
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i think it's the CPU most likely, the question is just why would it potentially kill 2 cpu's in a row

midnight pelican
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you could try to make some of your money back and return/ sell stuff and buy a decent prebuilt

spiral zealot
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and that makes me think PSU is the root cause, because that's usually what kills systems

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especially if you aren't doing anything like mad crazy overclocking

fallen atlas
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Welp, i've learned a lot more about CPU's in a week than i have in years and even though we weren't able to figure out wtf is going on thanks for going over this stuff with me. I don't feel nearly as crazy as i did earlier xD

midnight pelican
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i think just getting a prebuilt would be better than to keep buying replacement parts tbh. no matter how much i hate them i have no other solutions (ᗒᗣᗕ)՞

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lol happy to “help” ;-;

spiral zealot
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just make sure you price out the system individually so you can make sure you aren't getting gouged on the overhead for them building it

fallen atlas
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Its all good, I really appreciate the time and effort though.

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Good point

midnight pelican
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buy from nzxt if you are going to get a prebuilt tho

little osprey
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nzxt, yeeeeuck

midnight pelican
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they only charge for the build fee everything else is msrp

spiral zealot
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or maingear, i've heard really good things about them too

midnight pelican
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better than alienware.

spiral zealot
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LTT did a secret shopper last year

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and maingear was solid

fallen atlas
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damn i didnt know that

midnight pelican
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brands to stay away from

spiral zealot
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origin

midnight pelican
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walmart

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origin

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i buypower

spiral zealot
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ibuypower

midnight pelican
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cyberpower

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alienware

spiral zealot
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cyberpower is a crapshoot

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but usually not great

fallen atlas
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alienware is bad? I thought they were legit?

little osprey
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ibuy is nzxt

spiral zealot
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walmart is jank

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dell overprices big time

midnight pelican
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apple 😳

spiral zealot
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and support is AWFUL

little osprey
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alienware is overpriced dell trash

fallen atlas
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😮

spiral zealot
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seriously, go watch the series linustechtips did on secret shopping prebuilts last year

sand falcon
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Alienware is pretty bad

spiral zealot
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it's a 4 part series

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and they go through dell support

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and it's a nightmare

fallen atlas
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Sorry, so which brands do you recommend again?

spiral zealot
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i personally like maingear just from what i've seen/read about them

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but i haven't actually bought from them

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so i have no first hand experience

little osprey
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Haven't heard anything bad about them, but also have not had them since I build my own.

spiral zealot
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yeah, same

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again, price check compare with anyone you're thinking about buying from and make sure you aren't getting gouged

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and try and see if you can find any reviews of their support

split silo
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thoughts on the fractal design ion+ platinum 660w psu?

stoic island
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good

split silo
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177 dollars good?

stoic island
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oof

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thats

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well

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Corona making prices high, so it's decent I guess today, but usually it would be more decently priced at ~130$

buoyant flame
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For sure

little osprey
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Hey guys if anyone can answer this there is a buzzing sound coming from my pc and it only goes away if I put pressure on any of the parts I feel like it’s my hdd but I don’t know

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No one wanted to answer it in general

stoic island
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could be hdd

little osprey
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Yeah bc when I touch my case you can feel a light vibration

stoic island
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there are like dampening things for hdd vibration

little osprey
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I think I need to take it out and screw all the screws into it I kinda did it half ass

spiral zealot
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yeah, any drive bays or anything like that with open screw holes can be a source of vibration

mystic oak
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could be your fans rubbing on omething

cursive wharf
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thin aluminum can easily cause noise from HDD vibrations

little osprey
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yeah i screwed in all 6 screws do my hdd in the hard drive bay so i think i should be fine now thanks for the clarifications

gloomy snow
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Is uninstalling an io shield easy?

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lol

stoic island
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Ehm

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You gotta take the entire motherboard out

celest horizon
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Who uses an io shield

tepid basalt
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normal people?

gloomy snow
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Hhahaa

sand falcon
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sooooo, I actually didn't use an io shield in a recent build......

tepid basalt
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ofc you don't

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you're a laser shark

sand falcon
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this true

mortal rampart
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ayo

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i have all my parts but my processor

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should i put everything together rn?

tepid basalt
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yep

stoic island
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no

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dont

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gotta put cpu and cpu cooler on before slapping into case

tepid basalt
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doesn't really matter tho

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as long as you can put the mobo into the case without scratching the back

sacred obsidian
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you have to access the back of the mobo to add the cooler and you can't put the cooler on til after the cpu goes in

sand falcon
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cases usually have mobo cutouts

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Also ryzen stock just goes on top 🙂

sacred obsidian
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not all

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and ryzen stock still has to remove the mobo hooks, which makes it easy to drop the backplate if you aren't careful, and if you dont have a good backside cutout that can make it even more difficult.

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best to do it outside the case

mortal rampart
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ok thx guys <33

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I'll wait

wary geode
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Just flickers no activity for posting

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Just flickers everything just flickers

tepid basalt
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@wary geode what does the bug led say?

wary geode
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It has one it’s a a320

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?

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Plz

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@tepid basalt

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It turns on with the 24 pin not with the power button

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Idk why

tepid basalt
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hmm

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first

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remove your ram

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clean it

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and insert

wary geode
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Yeah did that 😦

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I think it’s a bad motherboard I’m going to return tomo

potent prairie
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@cosmic spear what budget?

cosmic spear
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The same

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That u have

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I9 and 2080 ti

midnight pelican
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that’s like 2000

cosmic spear
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From us

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?

potent prairie
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So like 2k? 3k?

midnight pelican
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Seems u alr know wat u want

cosmic spear
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I know

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What u want

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I dont know

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How yo bike

potent prairie
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What do you need help with then

cosmic spear
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Build by myself

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I’m afraid

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Bout that

potent prairie
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So you have the parts picked out?

cosmic spear
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Yes

potent prairie
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Ok. My advice is go to YouTube and do watch some videos to learn what not to do

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Pc building traps by techquickie is good

midnight pelican
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So basically what u do is u buy everything

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And then plug it in

potent prairie
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Look at a build guide or two

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That should give you everything you need to know, then if you have specific questions you can ask em here

buoyant aurora
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Ok, looks like I am gonna be spending $1900 on my system before microcenter savings

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This became very expensive very fast

stoic island
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Lol

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Computers arnt cheap

potent prairie
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Yep

buoyant aurora
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Especially workstations lmao

hasty sleet
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buy prebuilt swap gpu instant gaming machine monkey brain

little osprey
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If you like overspending...

hasty sleet
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thats why monkey brain

jagged ember
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stinky small brain

little leaf
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using for a flip

normal brook
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No such thing as an APU “gaming pc”

spiral zealot
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Esports focused if you really wanna give it a target use case

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jagged ember
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Wow

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That just happened

little osprey
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Wot

buoyant aurora
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Lmao

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For once weggbot does something good haha

vast topaz
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what's the best graphics card for a Ryzen 3 5500X

sudden turret
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that actual not good

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guy had links asking about his build, nothing wrong with that, but the length of the message bot considered it spamming.

sullen spoke
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Bad weggbot

mortal rampart
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Rip

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Also if anyone is buldin using a 3100 just get a 1600af instead Chef_Kiss

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Yw btw 🙈

deep skiff
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don’t get the 3100 just get the 3300x

obsidian vault
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kk

cinder jay
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ok

sand falcon
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3100 has really bad core to core latency

zealous epoch
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would a ryzen 5 1600AF and a 960 GPU cause bottle necks?

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it's a bandaid fix till he gets a new GPU

analog hearth
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@vast topaz is that a joke? the Ryzen 5500X doesn't exist, nor would it be "Ryzen '3'"

sand falcon
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Maybe 2500x?

compact hill
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Lol

analog hearth
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Lol

novel sand
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Hi, I recently bought a computer off an auction and I'm trying to figure out what i can upgrade on it for at least a 2x improvement but i don't know anything about computers... is anyone able to help?

analog hearth
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what are the specs of the system?

novel sand
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R5 1600 / rx580 4gb / 8gb ddr4 2400 / Asus Prime A320M-K

stoic island
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For what workloads?

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gaming?

novel sand
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yes pretty much only gaming

analog hearth
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you already have a decent system. I would just focus on upgrading the RAM and the GPU. I would say a 2060 or 1660 Super (or TI) would be fine for the GPU, and then I personally would just add another 8GB of RAM (you can mismatch RAM as long as it has the same speeds and timings)

stoic island
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Well 1600 is a pretty bad CPU today

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I'd upgrade CPU and ram

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And mis matching ram makes the ram run as slow as the slowest stick, which is 2400mhz here, which is pretty slow

analog hearth
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yeah. forgot to mention that I would only add another 8GB if you're on a budget and not OC'ing memory. I would try to get 16GB 3200MHz kit if you're going to stick with the same CPU

stoic island
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What's your budget to upgrade it?

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everything could be upgraded but you know

analog hearth
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also, I wouldn't rely on that motherboard if you're going to upgrade your CPU

novel sand
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i bought this for $277 i'm just completely lost when it comes to understanding what fits with what and whether or not it can be upgraded

stoic island
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Also, any SSDs in the PC?

novel sand
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500gb

little osprey
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Do you need a os Microsoft 10 pro

stoic island
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fair nuff

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what

little osprey
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Like

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Do you need to buy the os

stoic island
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Ebay key

novel sand
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like i was considering a 5700xt but im not sure what all it'd take to make it work

little osprey
#

Buh they scam

stoic island
#

I mean it works now

analog hearth
#

your CPU would probably bottleneck that 1600. I would just turn up the graphics settings lol

stoic island
#

It's just everything can be better

analog hearth
#

that's a good price for RAM

stoic island
#

always

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ripjaws are great

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and then the GPU of your choice

edgy wagon
#

2080 ti with a amd athelon 200ge

analog hearth
#

lol

edgy wagon
#

insert thanos "perfectly balanced as all things should be"

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is there any reason to get more than 16gbs of ram? im debating replacing my cheap 3000 mhz for 32 gbs of trident z neo

analog hearth
#

video editing. real-time video encoding(?) (like, screen recording with OBS, stuff like that)

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but for sure video editing

deep skiff
#

yea if ur ram is always pegged at 16gb or really high u probably could benefit from more

edgy wagon
#

its around 80-100% most of the time while gaming and streaming

analog hearth
#

I'd upgrading

edgy wagon
#

is the speed worth paying more for?

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i saw the ltt video on ram speeds and i have seen slight upgrades in fps and power but is it worth 30-60 dollars more?

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comparing say 30 bucks for a stick of 3000 vs 50 for a 3600 speed

analog hearth
#

using Ryzen? 3600 for sure

sour kayak
#

So I’m in need of a cpu upgrade. I’ve got a i5-7500 paired with a 1070ti. Should I get a 7700k so I don’t need to switch out my mobo? Or do you think I should switch to AMD so I could benefit from more cores.

analog hearth
#

I'd say always go with a higher speed if it's doing something in real time

mortal rampart
#

@edgy wagon neh I decided to go the 3200 route to save me $20

analog hearth
#

@sour kayak I feel it would overall be best to upgrade to a Ryzen-based system. some people would say to just upgrade to a 7700K (and I was about to say the same), but I just did a bit of research just now and realized that getting a 7700K still means that you'd be spending more than if you were to get a 3600 with a reliable but inexpensive X570 motherboard (I would say the Asus PRIME X570-P is a great budget X570 option)

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and you could still use your same RAM until you decide to upgrade to faster memory

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and there's an upgrade path as well

sour kayak
#

Yeah that’s what I was thinking.

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Thank you

analog hearth
#

:)

deep skiff
#

also the 7700k is just a lame 3300x

analog hearth
#

lol fr

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expensive and has the same performance for a budget CPU

novel sand
#

i think i'm just lost when it comes to motherboards...

analog hearth
#

if you're upgrading to something like, a 3600 or something that's lower-spec, I'd just stick to B450 (if you can update the BIOS, which requires a second PC)

sour kayak
#

B550 is coming out soon too

analog hearth
#

lol that too

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hopefully

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it's probably best to wait for that (if it ever happens lmfao)

sour kayak
#

Its supposed to come out June 16th, so it hopefully wont be long.

analog hearth
#

what's your source of news on that btw?

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just curious because I haven't heard much lmfao

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but nor do I even have a tech news source haha

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or at least a reliable one

sour kayak
#

I was just looking at gamers nexus, which i guess isnt that reliable.

hollow grove
#

gn is reliable

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LOL

analog hearth
#

nah I think GN is pretty reliable haha

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next to Hardware Unboxed

hollow grove
#

ima facetime steve and tell him you said that

analog hearth
#

btw rookies can't sent links

hollow grove
#

rekt

sour kayak
#

Yeah i see that

analog hearth
#

haha

novel sand
#

I'm trying to switch from a hardcore console gamer to PC I just want to get at least 1080p 120fps med/high settings on all FPS games... but with the new xbox coming out i'm not sure i can make the move while beating its price but i have no clue what i need to combine to reach those specs

sour kayak
#

So your goal is to stay under the price of the xbox?

novel sand
#

even if its a couple hundred over... but even then my entire library is on xbox thats why im using auctions so i guess im just looking for the specs id need to hit those stats

sand falcon
#

New xbox probably won't hit 120fps on med to high settings

novel sand
#

at 1080p?

sand falcon
#

yeah

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It's good, but it doesn't look like it will be that good

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Are you looking to match the specs on the xbox or better them?

novel sand
#

if i can better... i have $1000 plus whatever i can get out of this pc if its not able to be easily upgraded

sand falcon
#

You have a pc you can upgrade?

novel sand
#

im not sure how far it can go if it can at all: R5 1600 / rx580 4gb / 8gb ddr4 2400 / Asus Prime A320M-K

sand falcon
#

What's the PSU+Case?

analog hearth
#

keep the CPU. the 1600 is still good

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just upgrade the GPU and RAM

novel sand
#

im not sure its a pre built i got from an auction... i dont see supply

sour kayak
#

The power supply will probably have some model number and/or brand written on it

sand falcon
#

On the otherhand, we have a $1000 budget to work with

novel sand
#

the psu is hidden in a compartment ill have to open it but ill have to find the tools

novel sand
#

sorry that took a while its 500watt and the case is a Rosewill Prism S500.... if youre still here lol

ornate marsh
#

Anyone running a ryzen 9 3900x with a asus prime x570 pro? Looking for memory suggestions , currently looking at gskill traitant neo for ryzen 3000 cpu

white jungle
#

I’m kinda needing help with my current build project. I’m stuck at the point of wether I should sli my 1070 and 1080 together. What would be the advantages of doing so?

sour kayak
#

You cant sli cards that are different. A 1070 and a 1080 wont work.

white jungle
#

I’ve read on Nivida forums saying you could if they both have directx 12

exotic trellis
#

is there a a gaming monitor that is good below 100

potent prairie
sour kayak
#

@white jungle Im not sure where you saw that information, but according to NVidia in order for SLI to work the two cards must be the same. Theoretically you could set it up to do an unofficial SLI with DX12, but the vast majority of games probobly wouldn't support that anyways.

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damn that's a lot of storage

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I've only got like 2.2TB

cursive wharf
#

@white jungle mGPU (multi GPU) is different then SLI. You cannot SLI two different cards together. You can mGPU two different cards tho. However mGPU is primarily useful for workstation tasks as very few games support mGPU. It's basically a DX12 thing only and not all DX12 games support it

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You'd probs be better off selling both and getting a better single card

novel sand
#

do motherboards have a max speed for ram?

potent prairie
#

Yeah, check with your manual to see what the maximum supported speed is

novel sand
#

uhh.. mine has 2 different answers - AMD Ryzen™ processors:2 x DIMMs, max. 32GB, DDR4 3200(O.C.)/2933(O.C.)/2666/2400/2133 MHz, ECC and non-ECC, un-buffered memory...

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...& AMD 7th Generation A-series / Athlon™ processors:2 x DIMMs, max. 32GB, DDR4 2400/2133 MHz, non-ECC un-buffered memory

stoic island
#

Motherboards don't have a max speed for ram

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the CPU does

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Motherboards usually label it for whichever CPU fits

deep skiff
#

yeah for example the first one is for ryzen, which is higher than the second one (a series and athlon chips), because ryzen has a better memory controller, allowing higher ram speeds

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but usually for ryzen 2000 just 3200mhz cl16 is fine, and for ryzen 3000 3600cl16 is good

novel sand
#

ok thank you lol i was so confused...

earnest olive
#

@hollow grove that belongs here but yeah Team MP34 is great

deep skiff
#

can we have the offical newegg discord pc build where its just parts that always are recommended like the cx450 and mp34

wide sparrow
#

@stoic island mind if i see your ryzen master settings?

edgy wagon
#

this is a 1500$ computer

#

my 3600 rx 580 build was around 500 total and is leaps and bounds ahead of this mac

deep skiff
edgy wagon
#

damn higher clock speed lmao

deep skiff
#

da_heck ur right

edgy wagon
#

this might be why i got 15-20 fps in most games

deep skiff
#

but ya macbooks are usually super overpriced unless buying used

edgy wagon
#

i bought it brand new when i came out

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since my parents at the time wouldnt let me build a pc since "they got too many viruses" and "broke faster and are a bad investment"

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and i didnt know better than to listen to them

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now im majoring in computer science and broken out of so many lies i always believed

deep skiff
#

i just needed a laptop for school and stuff, got it used for 500 off a friend so its actually a decently good deal

edgy wagon
#

my dad used to buy windows pcs for work but he never thought about building his own instead of buying a cheap prebuilt every 2-3 years

sour kayak
#

Apple is really good at build quality and marketing, and that attracts a lot of people that don't know any better

deep skiff
#

tru

edgy wagon
#

now my pc runs laps around this mac

deep skiff
#

and everybody knows apples ecosystem well

edgy wagon
#

although i still use this mac for video and photo editing

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since i prefer imovie and the trackpad is nice for photoshop but thats preference

deep skiff
#

lol imovie and gamepigeon are the only reasons to get apple products

edgy wagon
#

i wonder if i can get imovie on a downloadable drive using third party software

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changing os types would be a pain though

sour kayak
#

iMessage in general is the main reason why Ive got an apple phone still. The second you add an android to the chat everything breaks.

edgy wagon
#

still has a flip phone since i dont use it for anything other than calls

stoic island
#

@wide sparrow my settings for what

wide sparrow
#

Your cpu

stoic island
wide sparrow
#

trying to get an idea on how far you can push a 3800x compared to 3700x

stoic island
#

I hurt my chip so

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mine can't be pushed much

sour kayak
#

you hurt it?

vague crystal
#

600 usd build?

little osprey
#

3800x can be pushed a lot farther but wait for 3800xt

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Or 4800x

#

4800x is 8 cores on one ccx

#

Much better latency

sand falcon
#

Maybe

stoic island
#

Prob not

sand falcon
#

We don't actually know what any core count/configs will be yet

stoic island
#

4800x is more likely to be 12c or 16c

sand falcon
#

Two CCD's on some chips in the r7 line seems likely right now

vague crystal
#

hm

little osprey
#

I already know core counts and configs

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Sources

sand falcon
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Unless of course, they end up keeping two ccx per ccd

#

What are your sources?

little osprey
#

Sources that signed an NDA but trust me enough to tell me

sand falcon
#

Dubious

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Especially since you just broke that trust

little osprey
#

Lmao

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I'm not under nda

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And I'm not saying who broke nda

#

I have not betrayed my friend's trust

#

Take it or leave it.

sand falcon
#

You did. What position are you in that you can get word on designs?

sour kayak
#

damnn

little osprey
#

A man with a lotta friends and a man with a lot of overclocking rep

sand falcon
#

And what is your name? I have never heard of you

deep skiff
#

wuuut just cause kingpin is good at overclocking doesnt mean he can look at the 3080 ti design before everybody else

little osprey
#

I mean yes, if he's designing the PCB for Evga's kingpin 3080ti

sand falcon
#

what

normal brook
#

@deep skiff concidering that he has his own line of GPU's through EVGA, says otherwise.

little osprey
#

Kek

deep skiff
#

yeah but he cant get it before evga gets it

normal brook
#

No, but you think EVGA doesn't get it before the release date?

sand falcon
#

I don't think kingpin designs the boards. He doesn't have the training.

normal brook
#

That's not how things work.

little osprey
#

Are you implying evga doesnt have ES's

deep skiff
#

they do, and he doesnt make the pcbs also

normal brook
#

No, but he works with them.

little osprey
#

He provides input on the design

normal brook
#

Adds things.

deep skiff
#

he designs the cooling

sand falcon
#

So my question @little osprey... 5nm on zen3 or no?

sour kayak
#

I mean, they do design it in cooperation, but idk if he gets those designs any earlier

normal brook
#

And VRM's and such.

little osprey
#

The kingpin cards are not sold for their stock coolers. They are ln2 cards

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Doesnt look like on zen3

deep skiff
#

and anyway i just picked a person, lets just say a different top tier overclocker

sour kayak
#

those cards come out after the first release, sometimes significantly later

little osprey
#

Zen 4 though looks like 5nm

deep skiff
#

its an e x a m p l e

normal brook
#

They literally get them before launch all the time.

sand falcon
#

Anyone can say that by looking at the roadmap. If you have an inside source, why can you not confirm yes or no?

normal brook
#

Watch Gamers Nexus. He has video's he releases after the launch data but that were made far before.

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He just did one for new Intel CPU's.

sour kayak
#

hes a reviewer though

little osprey
#

Zen4 gets 5nm ddr5, and sold under ryzen 5000 name. Its five themed

normal brook
#

He was working with a overclocker.

sand falcon
#

@normal brook They're under very strict NDA though. Shingle here would be breaking NDA

normal brook
#

The overclocker had the CPU.

little osprey
#

I dont watch techtubers

normal brook
#

The Overclockers are under strick NDA too.

little osprey
#

I get my info before their videos are posted

deep skiff
vague crystal
#

1070 for 220 usd?

normal brook
#

You really think a media outlet will get access before someone who has say in the final product?

sand falcon
#

Again, the zen4 stuff is old hat. All you have done is claimned an inside source giving core counts

little osprey
#

Yes and I've known that for like at least 4 or 5 months iirc

sand falcon
#

I've known it for a year or so

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What about SMT4?

little osprey
#

Neat I think it's on slides somewhere

sand falcon
#

When will we get that stuff?

still roostBOT
#
Señor_Shingle#9658 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

sour kayak
#

RIP

little osprey
#

I ain't heard anything regarding smt4 lately

sand falcon
#

What is smt4? No googling

little osprey
#

Quad threading

sand falcon
#

How many chips support it right now?

normal brook
#

I can never remember AMD's multi-threading acronym.

#

I have to look it up every time.

little osprey
#

I heard weird stuff about it a while ago but it was just whispers about possible quad threading

sand falcon
#

So you say no chips currently support it?

little osprey
#

The cache is there but smt4 isnt super useful for the trouble you have to go through to make it happen

sand falcon
#

How many chips currently support it though?

little osprey
#

No clue. IBM has chips that do that

normal brook
#

Orly?

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I didn't know that.

little osprey
#

Yeah

sand falcon
#

You didn't think to mention this earlier?

little osprey
#

IBM has all kinds of crazy nazi science they leverage

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The fact ibm had quad threading?

sand falcon
#

Yes

little osprey
#

I gotta go clock in

cosmic spear
#

It is better

#

Build a pc

#

Or

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One done

sand falcon
#

Build

cosmic spear
#

Cheaper

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Or not?

normal brook
#

Apparently IBM has SMT8 too.

#

Never knew this was a thing.

sand falcon
#

Yup

normal brook
#

I always thought it was only 2 because of diminishing returns.

sand falcon
#

There were some chips a while back that could go even higher

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IBM more or less solved the diminishing return issue

little osprey
#

Pure cores are best imo

#

But I gotta go get to work

sand falcon
#

I hyperthreaded core is essentially two "pure" cores, just sharing some of the branch-prediction and similar hardware

#

There are two separate ALUs and register files for each core and thread

normal brook
#

I am in a terrible mood.

oak hamlet
gloomy goblet
#

if my aio is 240 it should fit this case right

deep skiff
#

yea

vague crystal
#

@gloomy goblet you dont need an aio for a 3600

gloomy goblet
modern dew
#

random question if anyone has experience.. ive read some horror stories on using diff brand fans on 1 hub/controller, i dont plan to but am just curious. Ive got 3 3pin sp120s and 4 4pin sickeflow v2s, i planned on tossing maybe the 4 sickles on the hub, but would it be fine if hypothetically i used all fans 3 and 4 pin diff amp pulls on 1 hub? i know rpm wouldnt be the same but just in terms of it not exploding on fire or somethin :p

sour kayak
#

I think the issue is less with hubs, and more with splitters

modern dew
#

my goal was just taking some pull off the mobo instead of 6 headers being occupied, and putting load to psu instead so just the 4 is fine but curiosity

sour kayak
#

A hub would be fine. Just don’t plug to many fans into one header

modern dew
#

the way it is rn is 6 slots and 1 has a splitter of 2 fans but thats on pump header since higher amp rating headers, but i would ideally want to clean wires up all to hub if its possible thats why i was curious but isnt a deal breaker

potent prairie
#

Dunno about different brands b/c they may have different draws, but my CoPro can handle 8 fans with some splitters no issues

modern dew
#

yep that was basically why i asked, the amp pull is different but not by much pretty close

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ill prob just stick the 4 same fans and be safe

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but again just was curious for cleanliness

exotic trellis
#

why does the NZXT case have a 100 dollar shipping on amazon

modern dew
#

probably is a different seller

spiral zealot
#

yeah almost definitely 3rd party fulfillment

modern dew
#

the non main sellers have crazy shipping sometimes, especially rn

#

i saw some things 20$ acessories having insane 50+ shipping rn, its all down to crazy upscaled 3rd party sellers price gouging

cosmic spear
#

You guys

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Were right

#

Build cheaper

#

That one from a company

#

400 less

#

Ryzen 7 3800 rtx 2080 ti

#

Anyone from nj

sour kayak
#

No

#

Guess not

past harness
#

budget 800$ pc

#

anyone wana help me im noxs friend

spiral zealot
#

strictly gaming, or gaming and streaming?

past harness
#

gaming

edgy wagon
#

ryzen 5 3600 1660 ti

spiral zealot
#

^

edgy wagon
#

just look up 800 budget build

#

there are so many vids

#

also you could go ryzen 5 3600 and a rx 5600xt or an rtx 2060

#

but the other parts would be cheaper

past harness
#

what about memoory cards

#

8g?

edgy wagon
#

ram?

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get 16gbs if you plan on gaming

spiral zealot
#

you can do 16gb on that budget

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3600mhz if you go ryzen 3000 series

edgy wagon
#

what games do you want to play @past harness ?

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and do you plan on recording or streaming?

spiral zealot
#

he said just gaming when i asked initially

past harness
#

Just normal games

edgy wagon
#

we talking fortnite / valorant / csgo or Assassins Creed / Tomb Raider / Battlefield 5?

past harness
#

gta rocket league mine craft

edgy wagon
#

ok so those are mostly easy to run

past harness
#

can sumone put together a list plz i am so new to this

#

Ik my frioend knows a bit but he go tno internet so im on hios accoutn

spiral zealot
#

and is a little under budget

edgy wagon
#

not sure about gta but ik that you can run those games on a simple system

spiral zealot
#

if you want more storage, you can swap out the drives for a bigger ssd/hdd and add 30-40 bucks to the overall cost probably

#

but the core of that, cpu/mobo/ram/gpu will run what you want to run

#

and might be overkill if that's the only stuff you're gonna run, tbh

#

but it's under the budget you mentioned

edgy wagon
#

i mean i get 240 fps in games i play and ik that rocket league is easier to run

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although i keep my settings medium or low since i play more competatively

past harness
#

@spiral zealot Could i use a different case woith that buiold

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sum with a litttle white in tt

spiral zealot
#

yeah, the case can be whatever you want, i just grabbed something that would fit the motherboard and was around the $60 price point

past harness
#

Would the DIYPC DIY-A1-W ATX Mid Tower Case
Work

surreal mango
#

It would work

spiral zealot
#

yeah, that woul dtotally work too

past harness
#

Ok how do i remove the other one off the list

spiral zealot
#

there's an X on the right side by the price for the case

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click that, and then it will reload with a button that says 'add a case'

#

and then you can click that and go pick the DIYPC case instead

past harness
#

no x

spiral zealot
#

near the top right, you should see edit this part list

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click that, and then there will be the X to remove things

#

if you still can't, i can go in and edit it

exotic marten
#

Anyone still on?

stray current
#

hello

exotic marten
#

So I bought brothers old 6600k Mobo and ram. Now I'm having bsods and freezes like crazy. Never had this on my 4690k build. Did ram test. Clean. Reinstalled windows completely on separate drive for testing same thing now.

little osprey
#

Re mount the cpu

exotic marten
#

He said he never had issues which I believe since I have seen it working great

spiral zealot
#

first thing would be to make sure that everything is seated correctly. pull the ram and reseat it, reseat the cpu, etc

exotic marten
#

Already rebuilt entire thing

#

Just bought new ram today and installed same issue

little osprey
#

Reseat the cpu

exotic marten
#

All components worked before. X2 970s 850w psu

#

Did reseat CPU already as well

#

No bent pins

spiral zealot
#

do you have any other cpu that you could socket into that board?

exotic marten
#

Updated bios and tried secondary BIOS as well

#

Nah just the 4690k

#

Same socket diff chipset

spiral zealot
#

yeah

#

hm

#

i think they're slightly different sockets too

#

i thought haswell was 1150

#

and skylake 1151

#

but either way

#

can't swap

stray current
#

correct

#

6600k skylake

exotic marten
#

Ohh wait yeah you right

stray current
#

4690k uses z97 board

#

6600k uses z170 board or h170 idk

exotic marten
#

I really am getting pissed off now. No idea what the issue is

#

Z170 and Z270 for 6600k

spiral zealot
#

if you tried it with different ram and you've reseated everything, and tried a windows install on a different drive

#

it sounds like it would have to be either the cpu or the board

exotic marten
#

I've even changed power outlets

spiral zealot
#

do the BSOD's give any error string or anything

exotic marten
#

Usually whea uncorrectable or irql

#

Within the last hour just trying to play a game it's been restarting by itself no bsod. Just froze so I came in here

celest horizon
#

Sup shingle

spiral zealot
#

whea uncorrectable is usually a hardware failure of some time, especially if it happens on different windows installs

exotic marten
#

Starting to think it's the Mobo at this point. CPUs rarely are bad

spiral zealot
#

yeah

#

if you haven't done anything crazy like OC it too hard or anything

#

it could very well be the board

exotic marten
#

Sucks because they don't make Z170s anymore. Gotta scrounge for a new one

#

Nah everything stock right now

#

Have even swapped cmos batteries

spiral zealot
#

can just try and find the cheapest ebay board you can

#

just to test with

exotic marten
#

Already spent 300 on this plus 67 for new ram

spiral zealot
#

there's a board on ebay with 2 days left on the auction, currently at $2.25 lol

#

msi z170 a gaming pro carbon

exotic marten
#

Otherwise I would have bought all new

spiral zealot
#

can keep an eye and try and snipe it if it stays low

exotic marten
#

Of course there's an ASRock z270 new on Amazon which is brand I got now

#

Is that in stock ?

#

Link?

spiral zealot
#

it's just an ebay auction, private sale

#

if all you want is something to use as a test bench

#

there's an HP Elitedesk LGA 1151 mobo for $22

#

buy it now

exotic marten
#

Nah would rather just find a new one this way I can return

#

Amazon easiest for returns well Newegg too

spiral zealot
#

true

exotic marten
#

Thanks for the help anyways

spiral zealot
#

no problem, sorry couldn't find a solid root cause

lucid crag
#

Is rog strix b450f compatible with 3700x?

spiral zealot
#

on the right bios version, yes

#

current version is 3003, so it's very possible that as long as you don't end up with a really old board, it will have the right bios out of the box

lucid crag
#

But if I do get an old one am I screwed?

#

Cause I don’t have older cpus

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Only got a 3700x

jagged ember
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Local microcenter or something should have CPUs to help you update the bios no?

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Or ryzen has the boot program thing where they send you an older cpu

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But you have to give it back after you're done

lucid crag
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No I don’t have Microcenter near me

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Or should o get the b450 mortar max

spiral zealot
jagged ember
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That should eork out of the box

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Also that yeah I was trying to find that site

spiral zealot
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worst case scenario, AMD can send you an athlon 200GE to use to boot with

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and update bios

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and then you send the Athlon back to them

lucid crag
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How long would it take?

spiral zealot
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depends on where you are, you fill out a form, they have to review/approve it, and then they send you the CPU

lucid crag
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I have to pay for it?

spiral zealot
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no

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but you have to send them the serial number and proof of purchase on your 3700x, so they can verify that you actually bought the CPU you're trying to use in the new board

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and then they'll loan you an Athlon for free

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except you might have to pay shipping

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not sure

jagged ember
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Both ways I think

spiral zealot
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i didn't read too deeply into it

jagged ember
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Wait

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Return shipping is definitely prepaid

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You get free thermal solution though that's dope

spiral zealot
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oh yeah, it's totally free

jagged ember
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Damn man

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I should get me one

spiral zealot
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they send it to you with prepaid return shipping, yeah

jagged ember
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But I bet you gotta pay for shipping to your place

spiral zealot
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but, that's also only needed if your rog strix board doesn't work out of the box

jagged ember
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:(

spiral zealot
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version 2301 was released in may of last year

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and i can't imagine there's any places with stock older than that

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especially with the shortages right now

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so if you buy the board, you'll probably be fine out of the box

lucid crag
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So basically I get the board that isn’t compatible with 3700x, I connect the cpu that amd lends me, I do the bios update and that’s it?

spiral zealot
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yep

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and then you send the loaner CPU back to amd

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prepaid return shipping and all

lucid crag
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So should I do this

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Get the asus b450f and if it’s not compatible with the 3700x I’ll get the loaner

spiral zealot
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i think the odds of having a super old bios are pretty low at this point, so if that's the board you really want, i say go for it

sharp viper
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Hey guys my friend wants to build a pc for around 800 so he can game with everyone. I know a little about computers to the point where I can get a list that works but I don’t know the best budget parts

spiral zealot
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better to get the item you want and then just have to do a couple of steps to get it working than compromise and get something you really want

lucid crag
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You can probably work a 1660 ti in that build

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Not bad

spiral zealot
lucid crag
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Alright I’ll do that @spiral zealot

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Thanks so much

spiral zealot
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you can fudge pieces here and there, if you want more storage or whatever

sour kayak
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@lucid crag I would like to point out that B550 boards are coming out on the 16th, and those are natively compatible with 3rd gen CPUs

spiral zealot
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but that's a general guideline

deep skiff
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peepoSadSip 3600cl18

spiral zealot
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oh lordie

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here we go

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😛

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there's a gskill set of 3600 that i think is CL16

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but it's a little more expensive

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but that build is a little under budget

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so can swap out

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one sec

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better timings, same speed

sharp viper
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Thanks guys I appreciate it

spiral zealot
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i'm just gonna go make a bunch of pcpp lists for different budgets and bookmark them lol

deep skiff
spiral zealot
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fair, i haven't used adata stuff before so i was staying away from them

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but it's cheap enough

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if it dies, it dies

lucid crag
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What are the chances of me getting an old boars

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Board

spiral zealot
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at this point, pretty low

deep skiff
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also 256 and 120gb drives are usually close in price

spiral zealot
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there's been a shortage of supply, which means stuff making its way out to customers is new built stuff

lucid crag
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Alright I’m ordering it

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Hope it works

spiral zealot
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i think you'll be fine, but on the small chance you aren't, you have ways to get up and running

lucid crag
quasi girder
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Hello can anyone help me I’m trying to make a red and black color scheme for my pc build and I need help picking the rest of the parts so far I have the ryzen 5 3600, b450 tomahawk max, trident Z DDR4-3200 CL16, also I need a monitor

latent storm
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budget?

past harness
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Yoo

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Did my friend contact yall earlier

spiral zealot
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yep

past harness
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Lmao no wi need some advice

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Any good replacements for a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB Video Card because best buy sell it for 699 but its out of stuck and amazon sells it for 850 or sum and im not tryna pay that much

stoic island
latent storm
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incredible

wary tundra
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1600af or 3100x?

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strictly gaming

latent storm
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huh

wary tundra
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my bad

past harness
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IM streaming and gaming with this build

stoic island
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3100

wary tundra
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I meant to ask a question but I think I jumped in by accident

stoic island
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better iPC

wary tundra
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ok

past harness
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So is this a good replacment ofr the same price of my rtx 2080 super founders

wary tundra
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well nevermind the 3100x is $150

stoic island
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bruh

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3300x is amazing at 120$

wary tundra
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yea

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I dont know why the 3100x is that high

past harness
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Good replacment????

wary tundra
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evga makes good cards

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no backplate though ☹️

past harness
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I had a rtx 2080 super founders but its soldout

latent storm
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get 2070s\

past harness
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Wdym

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Im clueless wym

spiral zealot
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2070 super

shy otter
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Hi

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This is my other build but I think the link got deleted

austere wren
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Kept on deleting so I posted it for him

shy otter
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Thank you sm

cursive wharf
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lots of things to change

austere wren
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Np hope you can find somebody to help you as i'm going to sleep!

normal brook
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SickleFlow 120mm vs Masterfan 120mm what's the difference? 😮

shy otter
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I know the type c port is not gonna work on current case. Also case is out if stock but the rest of parts is in stock. So if someone could help me find better ram, case in stock, and anything extra. That would be appreciated!
°budget is $700
°I have 1650 already

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Please @ me if you help

cursive wharf
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-Tomahawk is a $70 - $80 board with good VRMs. Not worth the 115 price so dont buy it for that much. Just get a Pro4 or smth of sorts (depending on stock)
-3000MT/s CL16 RAM is the same price. 3200MT/s CL16 RAM is like $3 more
-A400 lacks DRAM cache and a good controller. One of the worst SSDs on the market
-PSU is more or less an IED. One of the worst semi-name brand PSUs on the market
-Case is priced too high for the budget. Also poor airflow.
-GPU should be sold for a slightly higher budget to get a much better GPU

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@shy otter

shy otter
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Okay I already have the ssd so I should return it?

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Also this all seems really complex how can I get a good build? Could you help me make a better one

cursive wharf
shy otter
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It’s a good build. I can save money on the 1650 since I already have it from old build.

cursive wharf
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note that the GPU is 1650 super which you dont have the super

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That is a 30% to 40% perf boost

shy otter
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I should sell old one then

cursive wharf
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yeah

shy otter
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Or maybe buy my fiends 6500 Xt

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For 100

cursive wharf
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5500XT is also not that great

teal bison
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Hey, havent been keeping up with all the new stuff happening and have a few questions. First off, what is the consensus on the new R3 cpus (3100 and 3300x). Second, is the 1600 af still being stocked at $85? It seems to be at $103 right now. And third, are there any other notable product launches that have happened recently. I know intel released their 10 series but that doesnt seem to be super groundbreaking from the little bit that I have seen, but I am still researching
Also sorry for the wall of text

cursive wharf
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5600XT is good

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if that's what you meant

shy otter
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Actually he has that one yes

cursive wharf
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used 5600XT for $100 is a very good deal

shy otter
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Yes agreed

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Anyways I’m gonna s,eep on it. I’ll let you know what build o go with

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Gn

cursive wharf
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alright, gn

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@teal bison 3100 alright, 3300x great deal ($20 more for 20% - 25% more perf of 3100). 1600AF should still be $85 but supply/demand scale makes it closer to 100. So it'll be a bit for proper pricing. Lastly, not really. Intel launched their stuff. Only okay CPU was 10600K maybe replacing 3700x gaming builds. Tho you'd want at least a 2080S/2080Ti before getting it as cost for Intel is still a fair bit more. Also AMD XT CPUs may make the 10600K useless. Tho they havent launched yet and no info on it, so cant 100% say

teal bison
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After watching GNs benchmark, it seems like the 3300x is very good value. It kind of makes the 3600 irrelevant, in some games matching, some falling a bit behind, and some even exceeding the 3600's performance. Do you think 4c/8t will hold up for a while? is the extra $65 worth it for the extra 2c/4t?

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and it seems the 3100 is DOA because of the 1600 af existing. It seems to outperform it at a (theoretically) cheaper price

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also congrats on techie @cursive wharf I remember you from a while ago and you were always online helping other people. Well deserved

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also what is up with b550? is it looking like it is worth anything? are there any notable differences between it and 450 other than pcie gen4 support?

deep skiff
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4c8t will still be decent (look how close the 10600k and 10900k are, with a 4c/8t difference), and by the time it will be bad at gaming it will probably upgraded

waxen cape
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Hi,In my build paired with a I-9900KS died so what happened was that my custom water cooling system LEAKED and that broke 1 of my 2 RTX 2080TIs so ya pls help

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The new GPU does not work

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I think I broke my GPU slot on the motherboard

still roostBOT
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stray current
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rip

gray river
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get mee6'd

foggy bough
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wait @teal bison so basically the 1660 af is much worse than the 3300x which is 4c 8t? hows that possible?

cursive wharf
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3300x has better averages but less consistent frame times @foggy bough

austere condor
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@foggy bough 1600af is on par for gaming performance with a 4th gen i7 while the 3300x is on par with a 7th gen i7

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Just because the 1600af has more cores than the 3300x, doesn't make it better. It's cores are significantly slower

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It's like comparing a 6 cylinder Honda pilot to a 4 cylinder Porsche 718 cayman

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Lol

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If core count is all that matters for performance, people would be using the 3990wx for top tier gaming rather than the 10900k

sturdy flax
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is this a good build?

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dangit

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R5 3600X, B450 chipset, 16GB RAM, 2TB HDD/120GB SSD, RTX 2060, 600 watt 80+ PSU

spiral zealot
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1600af is basically a 2600, for comparison sake

sturdy flax
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aren't AMD CPUs basically a smol bit big dif in between gens?

stoic island
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Quite a bit better between generation

spiral zealot
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Also smh 4cyl 718 cayman, flat 6 or bust, nothing sings quite like my 3.4L cayman S

stoic island
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Lol

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2600 was 1600 but on the 12nm node
1600af is 1600 but on the 12nm node

deep skiff
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1600af is a slightly downclocked 2600

sturdy flax
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true\

stoic island
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Specifics matter

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A lot

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Some crappy dramless 120gb SSD is not gonna be a good experience

sullen spoke
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nah, wat are specs

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never heard of it ROFLEgg

stoic island
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Blower 2060 can suck

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600w 80+ PSU can be horrible

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And likely is bad since it's only got 80+

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Single stick of 16gb 2400mhz ram is not going to be a fun time