#building-and-recc-chat

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little leaf
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anyone got tips on how to sell my pc?

gloomy goblet
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list it

spiral zealot
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i use an AIO but only because i was able to repurpose one from my old build, and i'm in a tiny case so airflow can be an issue

silk estuary
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I'm using an nzxt kraken x63 iikvn

little leaf
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lol I know that much

silk estuary
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I like it

gloomy goblet
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i just want an rgb aio that support msi's mystic light

little leaf
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@gloomy goblet why do you want an aio

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just tell me why

celest horizon
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I'd ask Zack tbh - he has an MSI z390 mobo + a corsair h110i AIO or something

gloomy goblet
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;-;

little leaf
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I have an aio because It was a gift and I didn't have to spend money on a cooler

gloomy goblet
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@celest horizon zacheri correct?

celest horizon
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@lime forge hi

lime forge
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what

gloomy goblet
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can you help me sir

lime forge
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i can certainly try

little leaf
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aio support with msi soft ware for iikvn

fierce flame
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My computer isnt showing display

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Everything seems to be running but wont post a signal

lime forge
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plug to graphics card, not motherboard

little leaf
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@fierce flame does everything within the pc seem to turn on?

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ok

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oh sh#t that looks good

gloomy goblet
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damn

fierce flame
gloomy goblet
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hot

lime forge
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is video cable plugged into graphics or motherboard

gloomy goblet
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hot

fierce flame
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Yeah it is

lime forge
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it wont show anything if plugged into motherboard

spiral zealot
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white PC hardware + rgb = smexy

deep skiff
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got that lonk cpu block

lime forge
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also @gloomy goblet what can i help you with

little leaf
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@lime forge you don't know his cpu though

lime forge
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okay and

gloomy goblet
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i wanna get and rgb aio with supported mystic light

fierce flame
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I was messing with the memory frequency and cpu overclock and it just stopped displaying

celest horizon
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The AIO/MSI mystic light malware RGB control software

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Figured you'd know about that

lime forge
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you can get any AIO you want and then just put on fans that support MSI mystic light software

gloomy goblet
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im actually that stupid

lime forge
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but if i were you id go all corsair bcuz their rgb software is waaaaaaaaaaaay better

spiral zealot
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@fierce flame you could have set something to an unhappy setting, might be worth resetting cmos/bios first and seeing if you can get it up and running again on default settings

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icue ftw

fierce flame
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How do you reset cmos the battery right?

spiral zealot
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yeah

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unplug the psu

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pull the battery

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let sit for 30 seconds

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plug it all bac in

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cross fingers

fierce flame
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Unplug just from the wall right?

spiral zealot
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i unplug from the psu myself, but it's all the same

little leaf
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ye you should cross fingers you didn't short something

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which is pretty unlikely

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but I could happen

spiral zealot
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yeah, you might have actually killed something, but a cmos reset is a quick/easy check

gloomy goblet
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@lime forge corsair software would be iCue correct?

lime forge
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yes

gloomy goblet
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OK

lime forge
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its waaaaay better than mystic light

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it also isnt blocked by vanguard lmfao

gloomy goblet
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which aio you pefer

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aio and fans*

autumn hemlock
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Can any mod help me?

still roostBOT
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carkk#4833 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lime forge
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not if u got small fingers

deep skiff
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rip

lime forge
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could be possible to just unplug riser from motherboard... but CMOS battery is a pain

gloomy goblet
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@lime forge which aio and fans combo you perfer?

lime forge
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try reseating gpu before cmos, maybe that might fix

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@gloomy goblet for my use case, i have a i7 8700 which doesnt require any crazy cooling, i have a h100i rgb platinum and i love it

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but you might need a larger or smaller one depending on your setup

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what cpu and case are you looking to get>

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?*

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also the h100i has the fans i prefer

still roostBOT
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carkk#4833 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

fierce flame
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Every time I overclock it always messes with my computer

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Just gonna enable docp and call it a day

gloomy goblet
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@lime forge the r5 3600 and the Phantek P300A

spiral zealot
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did the cmos reset get you up and running again? @fierce flame

lime forge
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h100i rgb platinum would be good

celest horizon
lime forge
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or if you want a 360mm, Thermaltake Water 3.0 (but that plugs into argb, not corsair software)

celest horizon
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Arctic Freezer II 280mm 🐐

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If you must go AIO

lime forge
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just take his advice ^

gloomy goblet
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lemme check it out

celest horizon
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H115i pro / h150i pro are decent, the platinum versions of either use a different pump design, but also higher max RPM RGB unicorn vomit fans

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NZXT's X62 and X72 are still pretty top tier

gloomy goblet
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what about nzxt x53?

fierce flame
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Yes it did

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Oh my goodness

gloomy goblet
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wha

celest horizon
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DOCP is just AMD speak for XMP

gloomy goblet
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well im just gonna ask for opinions but would this be alr

celest horizon
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2060 KO is great for productivity use cases, but has a lower power limit than it's counterparts at the same price

gloomy goblet
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but is the build an overall good build?

celest horizon
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Pretty solid, ya

fierce flame
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@spiral zealot it got me running installing my windows now thanks friend

gloomy goblet
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yeah i think this is the build i wanna go for now

spiral zealot
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@fierce flame awesome

celest horizon
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If there's a sale on the 1TB WD black sn750 - I'd get that instead, if not the MP34 is more than fine

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Quite fast really

fierce flame
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Any tips on getting the most out of my 3700x and 2080s

gloomy goblet
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oh what does it mean when i get this error?

hollow grove
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they mean what they say

spiral zealot
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exactly what it says, it's not an error, just notes to be aware of

gloomy goblet
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ohhh

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notes

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ok

hollow grove
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if you use the m.2 it won't let you use 2 sata

gloomy goblet
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hmm

celest horizon
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Non-issues

gloomy goblet
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i kinda wanna not do m.2

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so i can put and hdd

spiral zealot
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but if you're only using an m.2 drive, it's a meaningless non-issue

gloomy goblet
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later on

spiral zealot
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you have more than 2 sata ports on the board

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so you can disable 2 and still be fine

hollow grove
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i have 3 sata drives and an nvme

gloomy goblet
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would it be fine if i do m.2 and add hdd later on?

hollow grove
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it's sweet

spiral zealot
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you probably have 6 sata ports

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so yeah

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it's fine

gloomy goblet
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oh

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ima go check to be sure

spiral zealot
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you can run nvme and 4 HDD off the board itself

gloomy goblet
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damn

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like thinking of it thats a lot

hollow grove
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i HIGHLY reccomend to save money buy some crappo ssd and get a 2 tb hdd

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windows on ssd

spiral zealot
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^

hollow grove
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games on hdd

gloomy goblet
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nope

silk estuary
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I have 8 sata ports i think

spiral zealot
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that's what i do, 240gb ssd for windows, barracuda 7200RPM 2TB HDD for storage

hollow grove
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i personally had 3tb worth of hdd and a 120gb ssd

gloomy goblet
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id rather do game and windows on ssd

hollow grove
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now i have a 1tb nvme ssd

gloomy goblet
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and the rest on hdd

hollow grove
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why

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lol

spiral zealot
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games on SSD is almost always pointless

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load time improvements are too minor to matter

gloomy goblet
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really?

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damn

spiral zealot
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and have almost zero impact on actual gameplay

gloomy goblet
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then just windows on ssd

hollow grove
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facts

spiral zealot
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there has been only one game i've ever had significantly better performance off SSD

hollow grove
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i put my games on my ssd bc my drives suck and my wifi is too fast for them

spiral zealot
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and it was because the game was horribly optimized lol

gloomy goblet
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lol

spiral zealot
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hooray Anthem

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at launch, if you were running off HDD it was almost unplayable

hollow grove
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anthem

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HAHAHA

gloomy goblet
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lol

spiral zealot
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if you moved it to SSD, it was silky smooth

gloomy goblet
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lol

hollow grove
spiral zealot
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the flight mechanics and all that were amazing

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there was just no content

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so disappointing

gloomy goblet
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whats your guys wifi speeds? im just curious

spiral zealot
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i paid for a month of Origin to get access

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and then cancelled lol

hollow grove
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mine is 500mbps

spiral zealot
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so i spent $15 all total for it

viral ore
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@late ice that rad tho

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its huge lol

hollow grove
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dude @spiral zealot origin access is amazing

spiral zealot
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i'm on gigabit via comcast, so i pull 800ish down via wifi on average

hollow grove
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i love it

gloomy goblet
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i get like 250 or 260 mbps

spiral zealot
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i re-upped it later because there was more stuff i wanted to play

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but originally i got it just to try anthem

hollow grove
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i use it for battlefield

spiral zealot
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so i wasn't out $60

hollow grove
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and all the other 5.7 billion games

gloomy goblet
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whens a good time to get pc parts for cheaper price

hollow grove
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it's like what xbox game pass should be

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not right now

spiral zealot
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prices usually drop when next-gen stuff comes out, all the used to be current gen will see some kind of drop

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or around things like black friday/cyber monday

hollow grove
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when ryzen 4k drops i'm buying immediately

gloomy goblet
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ehh probably wait till the end of the year to build the pc

spiral zealot
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2000 series GPU's will probably see a small drop when 3000 series comes out later this year

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same with ryzen 4th gen

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you'll see 3rd gen prices come down across the lineup

gloomy goblet
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which is when?

spiral zealot
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i might upgrade to a 3600 or something when that happens

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fall? september/october? based on rumors i've seen

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but no official date

hollow grove
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ima get a b350 mobo soon

gloomy goblet
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ohh

hollow grove
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aww dude i could wait that time

spiral zealot
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i'm on a B450 board now because i planned on upgrading eventually

gloomy goblet
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ill just wait

spiral zealot
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but i might skip 3rd gen and go straight to 4000 series when it comes out

hollow grove
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i got x570 because i'm smart

gloomy goblet
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but i got a pretty good first build come up

hollow grove
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it'll support all chips

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and not be cut down

spiral zealot
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i had a budget on this build, and B450 prices were down at the time

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so i just grabbed that

hollow grove
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dude i spent 200$

spiral zealot
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i think i spent $75 on this one

gloomy goblet
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alr ima go

hollow grove
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or actually it was more like 300 after the fact

spiral zealot
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it's an ASRock mini-itx B450

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tinypc

hollow grove
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i got ram cpu and mobo for 300

glacial gorge
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hey yesterday I came in here asking for support on my pc not working and today it did work so I just wanted to say thank you all for helping me!

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Forgot who exactly helped me but ty if u did

spiral zealot
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oh wait, i got my board for $125

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ram was 75

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cpu was 120

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but i was coming from an FX system lol

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so i was fine with paying that for the comparative performance boost

celest horizon
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Glad you've seen the light

echo tapir
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can i put a 3 pin fan plug-in into a 4 pin on my mother board

viral ore
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yep

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they are keyed to be intercompatible

deep skiff
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ya

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but to be able to control the fan speeds you need to run it as dc not pwm in the bios

still roostBOT
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carkk#4833 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little osprey
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mmmmmmmmm

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I'm waiting for B550

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when ryzen 4th gen drops I'll pick up a used 3700 or 3800

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preferably x

midnight granite
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Is this a good build?

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AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $167.00 FREE $167.00

Motherboard

MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $69.00 $69.00

Memory

ADATA XPG Z1 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory $59.99 $59.99

Storage

Team L5 LITE 3D 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $59.99 $59.99

Video Card

EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO GAMING Video Card $299.99 1 $3.99 $303.98

Case

Zalman S3 ATX Mid Tower Case $45.99 FREE $45.99

Power Supply

Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 $3.99 $73.98

little leaf
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@cursive wharf

earnest olive
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oh no

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i will make you a better list when my league game is over

little leaf
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Ye lmao

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thats what I said

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They didn’t trust me

earnest olive
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it's a really really bad list for a number of reasons

little leaf
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In the discord I was in it was pretty toxic they were like I have lots of experience and this is the best you can do

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Ye Lol thats what I said

neon condor
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I almost threw up reading that list of parts.

little leaf
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ik lmao

earnest olive
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can the enemy team just surrender already so i can make a list

little leaf
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Lol

earnest olive
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guess i have to beat the hope out of them

cursive wharf
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I mean the only actually bad thing is the a320 board. Potentially bad thing is CXM

earnest olive
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alright lemme make my list now

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3000mhz cl16 ram for the price of 3200mhz cl16 ram

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if $842 isn't too much this is a worthy upgrade

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non modular psu but man psu prices are wack right now

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you could also drop the 3600 to a 3300x in the second list and remain below $800 then upgrade to a ryzen 4000 cpu later on

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good option if you plan to upgrade

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@midnight granite

little osprey
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hey

half crown
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hey yall im planning on using 9 NZXT aer rgb 2 fans in this current build of mine

foggy bough
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hello guys is it possible to build a ryzen 5 3600 rx 5600 xt with 2 case fans, the stock cooler for the cpu and a ASROCK B450M PRO4-F

half crown
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in what case?

foggy bough
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its an ok case

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@half crown deepcool shield v2

half crown
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so one intake fan and 1 exhaust fan?

foggy bough
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yeah

half crown
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i would add 2 more for intake

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but that build is just fine for that case

foggy bough
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but is it possible to get away with okay temps with 2 case fans?

half crown
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maybe for cpu

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gpu might be a little higher

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what fans are you using?

foggy bough
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one from the case and one Genesis NGF 1167 hydrion

half crown
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my guess is temps would be a bit higher cuz thats a pretty decent sized case

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with only 2 fans the airflow wouldnt be optimal

foggy bough
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i will try to squeeze in one more of these fans

half crown
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and that genesis fan only does about 40ish cfm of airflow at max

foggy bough
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is that good

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?

half crown
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its decent collectively

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but for a single or twin no

foggy bough
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but i can get away with 3 case fans right?

half crown
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most fans hover within the 40's range of airflow

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yea

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is there a reason why you're trying to stretch out having less fans?

foggy bough
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my budget is limited

half crown
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ah

foggy bough
half crown
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what country are you in?

foggy bough
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with no more than 10 euros?

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greece

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@half crown have u found anything?

half crown
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u want led on the fan or are you ok with none?

foggy bough
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im ok with none but found a case fan that is 69 ish CFM

half crown
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do u care about noise level?

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cuz 69 cfm sounds like a high rpm fan

foggy bough
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the case fan i found is 26db

half crown
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i would look at the Arctic F12 fans

foggy bough
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how many CFM?

half crown
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or the Be Quiet Pure Wings 2

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the arctic is 53cfm

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and its like 4.5 euros

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the be quiet ones are like 65 cfm

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8ish euros

foggy bough
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ok lemme check

half crown
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you should be ok with high 40s+ cfm range

foggy bough
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yeah but im gonna get the be quiet ones to be safe. Im gonna get 2 of them

half crown
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good choice

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having 2 in the front at least helps cool out ur cpu and gpu

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and whatever hdds you are using

foggy bough
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yes

ember sierra
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I had a question: I’m planning on upgrading my rig in the near future and wondered how good of a gpu to get. I usually play rpg or mmo and plan on playing new releases (such as CP2077). My budget is very limited tho and I’d like to push it as little as possible. So which GPU is recommended for my demands?

half crown
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whats ur budget?

foggy bough
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well with an i3 8th gen you will probably get bottleneck if u go higher and that wont be nice

ember sierra
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I will upgrade cpu as well

foggy bough
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to what cpu?

ember sierra
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Maybe r5 3600x

foggy bough
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dont get that get the r5 3600 its more value

ember sierra
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Ok

half crown
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whats your budget? what resolution you plan on gaming on?

foggy bough
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u pay much more for 2 or 3 frames

midnight granite
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Is this a good pc for fortnite with a budget of 800 dollars?

half crown
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Is this a good pc for fortnite with a budget of 800 dollars?
@midnight granite that should be just fine for fortnite

foggy bough
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@midnight granite better get ryzen 5 1st gen or 2nd gen

ember sierra
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My resolution is 1080p and my budget is around 1000€ (for a full upgrade so CPU, GPU, RAM, Mobo, PSU etc)

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But I could slightly push it if required

midnight granite
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k @half crown @foggy bough

foggy bough
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will u upgrade your case?

midnight granite
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maybe

foggy bough
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no not u

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@ember sierra

midnight granite
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any suggestions?

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oh

half crown
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lol

midnight granite
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lol

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nvr mind

foggy bough
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lol

ember sierra
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I would like to @foggy bough

half crown
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CP2077 looks like an intense game tho

foggy bough
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what case do u use now

ember sierra
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Masterbox Q300l

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I believe

foggy bough
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thats quite nice dont upgrade it

ember sierra
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Ok

foggy bough
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how much ram?

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do u have?

ember sierra
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I have 8 which is too little obv

foggy bough
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ok get one more stick of the same 8gb ram

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get a nice b450 board over 90 dollars

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get a ryzen 5 3600

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a rx 5700xt or rtx 2070(depending on whats cheaper)

half crown
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the 5700 will most likely be cheaper

foggy bough
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get some more case fans

ember sierra
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Which ones recommended

foggy bough
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@half crown yeah but less performance

ember sierra
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Also my 400w psu will not be enough right?

half crown
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he on a budget tho, and the 2070 S with current prices are about half is budget already

foggy bough
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yeah get 600w at least 80 plus

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well its 400 for the rx 5700xt with same performance

ember sierra
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The 2070 u meant super or ā€žnormalā€œ

foggy bough
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normal

half crown
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super

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oh

foggy bough
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xD

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lol

ember sierra
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ok get one more stick of the same 8gb ram
@foggy bough I have two 4gb sticks currently. Will that work?

foggy bough
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get 2 more of these 4 gb sticks then

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are they over 3000mhz?

ember sierra
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Im not sure. All I know is that they are some non-hestspreader Kingston sticks

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And pretty old

foggy bough
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then get some heat spreader sticks with 3000mhz or more

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make that 16gb

ember sierra
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That’s what I thought

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Yup

foggy bough
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and put the other ram away

ember sierra
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Vengeance is good?

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Or other suggestions

foggy bough
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yeah but rn kinda overpriced

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ripjaws is ok too

ember sierra
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Ok

foggy bough
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how much of the budget have u covered?

ember sierra
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Wdym

foggy bough
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nothing

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how many case fans?

ember sierra
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I only the one which came with it

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Im pretty sure it did

foggy bough
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get 3 more then

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at least 40 cfm

ember sierra
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Recommendations?

foggy bough
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be quiet pure wings,arctic fans,corsair fans,deepcool fans,

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at least 120 mm

ember sierra
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Ok

foggy bough
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also if theres some money left

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try to squeeze in a rtx 2070 super or rtx 2080 or rtx 2080 super

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try not to spend ur money on rgb

ember sierra
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Im always uncertain about 3rd party gpu from companies I don’t know

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try not to spend ur money on rgb
@foggy bough I’ll try

foggy bough
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then get from companies u know

ember sierra
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Lol

foggy bough
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xD lol

half crown
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rgb gives u 100 fps tho

foggy bough
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LOL

ember sierra
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then get from companies u know
@foggy bough Which are generally more expensive

half crown
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they are all pretty good

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except PNY

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havent had much experience with their gpu's

ember sierra
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Also should I upgrade hdd to ssd?

half crown
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i usually get Gigabyte or Asus GPU's

foggy bough
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yeah but try to not go too pricy and get at least 2 fans with the gpu

half crown
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yes a HDD to SSD is a HUGE difference

ember sierra
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Ofc

foggy bough
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or msi are good

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how much storage

ember sierra
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1tb

foggy bough
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ssd?

half crown
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2.5 inch SSDS are cheaper now

ember sierra
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I have 500gb in ssd and 1tb in hdd

sullen spoke
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evga gpu's are good

half crown
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^

foggy bough
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nice u dont need to upgrade

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@ember sierra

ember sierra
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K

cursive wharf
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2.5" to NVMe SSD still isnt that much money difference

foggy bough
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yes

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@ember sierra also if some more money is left u can upgrade the mobo a bit too and the gpu

ember sierra
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Mhm and my cooler will be fine?

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CPU cooler

foggy bough
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yeah it will be ok

ember sierra
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It’s an Alpenfƶhn Ben Nevis

foggy bough
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the r5 3600 has a stock cooler

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its quite nice

ember sierra
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Ah yes i remember

half crown
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the Wraiths are actually pretty good for stock coolers

ember sierra
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Ye

half crown
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i'd give u mine lol

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if i was in EU

foggy bough
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lol

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@ember sierra so basically u will get more than 100 frames per second in almost all games in ultra

ember sierra
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That sounds nice

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Very nice tbh

foggy bough
#

yeah

cursive wharf
#

Do you plan to stream/record?

ember sierra
#

Recording yeah

cursive wharf
#

Then go Nvidia

ember sierra
#

I planned that anyways

foggy bough
#

yeah get a rtx 2070 super or better

ember sierra
#

Im currently looking into 2070s, 2080, 2080s

foggy bough
#

okay then

ember sierra
#

U have a recommended? In that area

foggy bough
#

actually if u go 2080 or 2080s better get a r7 3700x

half crown
#

2080s and 2070s are good

#

ive had both

#

currently have a 2080s

#

yea hes right if u go 2080 u probably would have to up your cpu as well

ember sierra
#

A 2080s like inno3d jet... is that of good quality?

#

It’s definitely cheap

foggy bough
#

nope

ember sierra
#

Ok

foggy bough
#

its not lol

ember sierra
#

That’s what I thought

half crown
#

whats inno3d jet lol

cursive wharf
#

thought it was 1000€ total budget for PC tho

#

making 2080S a bit much

ember sierra
#

It is

#

That’s the problem :(

half crown
#

yea a 2080 is 600 euros

cursive wharf
#

you can 2080 is a waste

#

2070S

ember sierra
#

Ok

cursive wharf
#

1% less perf for much cheaper

half crown
#

yea 2070s iss better value

cursive wharf
#

2080S is the only decent buy

foggy bough
#

but its 700 lol

cursive wharf
#

can you reuse the case?

ember sierra
#

Yes

foggy bough
#

he can

half crown
#

a 2070s is 700?

cursive wharf
foggy bough
#

no rtx 2080 s is 700

half crown
#

how reliabl eis inno3d?

cursive wharf
#

not going to fail

foggy bough
#

he already has an ssd

ember sierra
#

If I throw out the storage it’s in budget

cursive wharf
#

may not be the best temps/noise

ember sierra
#

Mhm

#

But as said I already have storage

half crown
#

go with that buil;d

cursive wharf
ember sierra
#

Ok

#

@foggy bough said extra case Fans

#

What about those, do I need?

cursive wharf
#

depends on case and how many current fans you have

ember sierra
#

One

cursive wharf
#

ye, should get another

ember sierra
#

One or more

cursive wharf
#

I usually at least get 2 fans

ember sierra
#

In total

cursive wharf
#

3 would be diminishing returns. Slightly better temps, but usually not worth it

#

but then again that also depends on case

ember sierra
#

Masterbox q300l

cursive wharf
#

two should be fine

ember sierra
#

K

#

Do i need that 3600mhz RAM?

#

Or is cheaper 3200 enough?

cursive wharf
#

3600 is ideal for Zen2 CPUs

#

slightly better averages and decently better lows (stuttering)

ember sierra
#

Ok then

#

3600 it is

half crown
#

dang 3 fans is diminishing returns

#

what about 13 >.>

ember sierra
#

Much fans are much nice

foggy bough
#

3600 is a better cou than 3300x i think

half crown
#

hes talking about ram speed lol

foggy bough
#

oh ok

#

but still the 3600 is better than the 3300x

ember sierra
#

Btw @cursive wharf had those ballistix listed, ripjaws are a good bit cheaper for 16gb@3600hz

#

So why ballistix?

#

At least as far as I’m concerned

zealous epoch
#

iv been running ripjaws for 7years in my old rig , just ordered a new set

ember sierra
#

Actually at same latency they’re similar

#

In price

zealous epoch
#

prices are crazy on anything PC related

ember sierra
#

Ik

#

That’s like the biggest/only drawback to pc

#

Except mobility

cursive wharf
#

@ember sierra that was the cheapest 2x8gb 3600 CL16 RAM for your currency

ember sierra
#

Yeah I missed the latency first ty

foggy bough
#

ino3d is a good brand?

ember sierra
#

The gigabyte 2070s windforce 3x

#

Is at a very similar price, so?

foggy bough
#

better choice yeah

ember sierra
#

Right

foggy bough
#

also u can have 3200 mhz ram with 80 why pay so much more for 3600?

zealous epoch
#

speed

ember sierra
#

Hei said that’s better with zen2 architecture

#

3600 is ideal for Zen2 CPUs
@cursive wharf this

foggy bough
#

yeah but there wont be more frames than 5 or 6

#

will be similar

#

better get worse ram and get better mobo

cursive wharf
#

look at lows

viral ore
#

But the thing is that 3600mhz ram isn't even that expensive

cursive wharf
#

better then trying to get a dual M2/better sound chip mobo

#

or support for an OCed 3900x

foggy bough
#

yeah but with 20 more dollars u get much better mobos

cursive wharf
#

which get you what?

foggy bough
#

what?

cursive wharf
#

one more M2, a better sound chip, and support for an OCed 3900x?

foggy bough
#

and better vrms

cursive wharf
#

thus, support for an OCed 3900x

foggy bough
#

so whats better?

cursive wharf
#

I mean, why are you getting a $420 USD CPU+$50 USD CPU cooler with a cheap board?

ember sierra
#

Following list is fine? (The parts with 0€ cost are parts I already own)

foggy bough
#

nice choise

cursive wharf
#

ultimately mobo upgrade doesnt do much in this case

foggy bough
#

all right then

ember sierra
#

Oh i forget the extra case fan

cursive wharf
#

it def can in others tho

foggy bough
#

okay

ember sierra
#

What fan specs should I get?

foggy bough
#

over 40 cfm

#

and at least 2 fans

ember sierra
#

I already have one so, one more?

foggy bough
#

2 more

#

or 3 more

ember sierra
#

Be quiet! Pure Wings 2 120 PWM is 120mm has 51.4 - 87 cfm and is 9€

cursive wharf
#

3+ fans gets diminishing returns, esp in a mATX case

foggy bough
#

@ember sierra take that

ember sierra
#

Aaand how many times? Hei and you seem to say different things

foggy bough
#

its ok just buy what you have chosen and u wont regret it

cursive wharf
#

also note that over doing the fans can cause turbulence

foggy bough
#

@cursive wharf true

ember sierra
#

One extra fan? Maybe two (I have 1 already)

#

Idk

cursive wharf
#

or incorrect placement. Say having a fan infront of the CPU cooler can cause it and the cooler fan to fight for air causing your CPU temps to rise

foggy bough
#

2 more will be fine

ember sierra
#

or incorrect placement. Say having a fan infront of the CPU cooler can cause it and the cooler fan to fight for air causing your CPU temps to rise
@cursive wharf okay i think that’s actually the case in my pc

#

Oof

cursive wharf
#

ye, you're in mATX so not many fan placements are there

foggy bough
#

just have 2 intake and one exhaust

cursive wharf
#

exhaust at back

foggy bough
#

yes

ember sierra
#

Yes

hushed vortex
#

is it norm to be pre bill be for shiping when you pay with pay pal

ember sierra
#

I just remembered I have the NZXT Hue+ on top of both storage modules. This adds up to 3 2.5" parts, but the q300l only has 2 bays

#

That kinda sucks tbh

cursive wharf
#

dont think it's the bank but mostly the shipping service/store (DHL, FedEx/Newegg, Amazon) you are using to determine that

foggy bough
#

i personally think that getting a rx 5700xt will be better cause its 100 dollars less and has same performance

#

with 100 more dollars u can get a 3700x

hushed vortex
#

yea dell took 1500 from me and did not ship any thing

cursive wharf
#

CPU video encoding is worse then GPU video encoding

#

worse averages and much worse lows, even with an 8c CPU

foggy bough
#

@cursive wharf wdym?

cursive wharf
#

dude wants to record

ember sierra
#

Yup

foggy bough
#

oh

ember sierra
#

Also i like rtx lol

hushed vortex
#

hear what i do

foggy bough
#

so the rtx 2070 super is better for that right?

cursive wharf
#

yeah
@hushed vortex contact Dell support

hushed vortex
#

record from a 2nd pc

ember sierra
#

Lol money tho

hushed vortex
#

not realy

#

you can buy a used pc for this

cursive wharf
#

I mean... You do already have a current PC

hushed vortex
#

and buy new pc for games

#

oh

#

in that case yea just get a capcard

cursive wharf
#

also, spending $100 extra on a GPU with an encoder rather then getting a $500 extra used PC would be ideal

hushed vortex
#

you get better fps if you use 2nd pc as recording pc

ember sierra
#

I would like to have one pc for both. Especially cuz if I don’t record the performance is used on the game

#

So ...

#

Idk

hushed vortex
#

no

cursive wharf
#

But I mean, you get like 1% less perf with NVENC anyways

hushed vortex
#

that bad

#

i give a good reson why to use 2 pc

#

if you stream

#

and pc bsod

#

the stream dose not crash

#

just the game pc

ember sierra
#

I don’t stream just record

cursive wharf
#

and if you get a good PC and keep it in check, why would it bsod?

hushed vortex
#

well if your going build a new pc i still get a cap card

#

i had bsod on new pc

ember sierra
#

Recording isn’t main priority

#

I haven’t

hushed vortex
#

60$ for a cap card

#

it cheap

cursive wharf
#

that makes that 3600 to a 3300x

hushed vortex
#

and if you ever do stream you have it

cursive wharf
#

which lowers perf

foggy bough
#

i dont think he needs to get a capture card tbh

ember sierra
#

I can buy it later if i need @hushed vortex

cursive wharf
#

there is a budget that needs to be kept

hushed vortex
#

yes

cursive wharf
#

spending more money on a cap card means less money on other components

#

meaning worse perf

hushed vortex
#

all so with 2nd pc you can add in cool over lay it wood save on render times a bit

cursive wharf
#

or instead get a 3950x/3960x

hushed vortex
#

i prefer real time editing over pre recorded edit

#

def esy with 4k games

ember sierra
#

How’s that?

cursive wharf
#

pretty good

ember sierra
#

Nice

foggy bough
#

real nice @ember sierra

ember sierra
#

Ima save that for when it’s upgrade time

#

Soon hopefully

cursive wharf
#

If you wait too long tho expect to make small changes for prices changing as they always do

foggy bough
#

how much difference do heat spreaders do to ur ram temps?

cursive wharf
#

depends. Most people dont need them

#

havent really looked into it but I'd expect like 3800+ low CL may want some unless you have decent airflow

foggy bough
#

will it make a difference with a r5 3600 and a rx 5600xt?

#

with 3 case fans and a asrock b450 pro4-f

cursive wharf
#

As in those shoving heat into the build causing RAM temps to rise?

foggy bough
#

wdym?

cursive wharf
#

ambient case temps rising from components

#

is why I'd assume you listed the parts

#

anyways what RAM?

foggy bough
#

g skill

cursive wharf
#

speed/timings?

#

and voltage if you know it

foggy bough
#

wait a sec

#

G.Skill Aegis 16GB DDR4-3000MHz (F4-3000C16D-16GISB)

#

@little osprey theres no way u can build with 15$

cursive wharf
#

#rules 9. No sweepstakes/giveaways, e-begging, trading or selling on this server.

foggy bough
#

so hei will it work without a heat spreader

cursive wharf
#

most likely. Im pushing 3000 CL16 on my shoddy 2133 heatsinkless RAM

foggy bough
#

nice lol

cursive wharf
#

tho, seems like yours does have a heatsink tho

#

by default

foggy bough
#

i dont see any heat sinks lol

cursive wharf
#

wait nvm it's a sticker I guess

foggy bough
#

šŸ˜‚

cursive wharf
#

unless model # is wrong

foggy bough
#

yes

cursive wharf
#

tho, the stickers for these things are usually thermally conductive acting as a basic heat spreader

foggy bough
#

really? HELL YEAH

cursive wharf
#

but yeah, dont think any real issues will happen unless you either OC a fair bit with like 1.45v (yours I'd guess is ~~like 1.3v/~~1.35v) or close every air gap on the case

foggy bough
#

okay

#

i dont plan on doing a oc on my pc anyways

cursive wharf
#

yeah, so should be fine then

foggy bough
#

i still have a question

viral ore
#

Then ask

high coyote
viral ore
#

Nice

signal drift
#

Took a loss n sold my samsung cgh90 which was just over month old because crg90 was sold out but now in stock hopefully its noticable sharpness

#

Headed to pick it up now

hushed vortex
#

i did not lose when sold my iphone 11

#

i made profit

#

1200 for a phone i pay 600 for

#

šŸ™‚

modern shadow
#

How

#

But

#

How

hushed vortex
#

ebay

hushed pollen
#

lol

paper ermine
#

Waiting for packages is a pain

wary geode
#

yeah been wai ting a week for keycaps

buoyant flame
#

Which ones?

lyric thistle
#

Escape key and P key

buoyant flame
#

Those are my favorites

wary tundra
#

can someone explain this

sand falcon
#

What are we explaining?

wary tundra
#

just why

#

the cpu cooler is blowing air but the two fans are just sucking it up as soon as it comes out

#

whats the point?

sand falcon
#

The question I have is why is there an AIO but no GPU

wary tundra
#

I dont know

#

I found this image off of google

viral ore
#

The GPU will pull in mostly from the bottom of the case

wary tundra
#

ah

viral ore
#

Giving the case positive air pressure again

wary tundra
#

that makes more sense

#

but still why have the two fans there

viral ore
#

Altho, the cpu rad would make more sense to be where the white fans are

wary tundra
#

it would

viral ore
#

Less restricted intake would help with keeping air pressure positive as well

#

What case is that tho?

wary tundra
#

I think the metallic gear neo mini

#

someone I know is building in that case and I was just confused

viral ore
#

It's not bad, but it seems kinda big for a it's case

#

Like, why spend a ton for itx mobo

#

When u put it in beeg case

wary tundra
#

I dont know

sand falcon
#

Better question... why do ITX mobos cost so much?

wary tundra
#

because they cute and tiny

viral ore
#

It's probably a premium cost

#

Not many people would buy it anyway

#

So they gotta charge more to make it profitable

sand falcon
#

So ITX mobos are like puppies. Cute and tiny and expensive.

viral ore
#

Yes

sand falcon
#

Also they sometimes s*** themselves

viral ore
#

Like, I would pay 200 for an itx board if it was the only way to have a nice, small pc

#

But there are also tiny matx cases

#

So

#

ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ

wary tundra
#

I almost went with a matx build

sand falcon
#

I have an matx build

cursive wharf
#

ITX wasn't that pricy AMD wise before the death of everything

wary tundra
#

wait @viral ore if someone vertically mounts their gpu in that case what would the airflow be like

#

because thats what the person I know is doing

open gazelle
sand falcon
#

Solid build. This is basically what I'm running right now, hust with a third gen cpu

open gazelle
#

Even with a weird and possibly not viable case?

sand falcon
#

Case should work. Not sure what the airflow would be

#

The cpu cooler though... not sure about that. What's your reasoning there?

open gazelle
#

It's for a complete noob to building.

sand falcon
#

Why not just use the stock cooler?

still roostBOT
#
Phantom#6652 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

sand falcon
#

oops

open gazelle
#

Lmao, s'fine. It's for a noob, I have a Noctua Nh-d15 fan in mine, but I just cannot burden this friend with a chonky fan out the gate.

sand falcon
#

Chonky?

#

Is that the noctua cooler or the AMD cooler?

open gazelle
#

Noctua cooler. It is a CHONK of a fan, barely fits in my H500.

sand falcon
#

Okay

open gazelle
#

Think the Wraith Prism is enough?

sand falcon
#

Yeah

#

AMD coolers are pretty darn good. I'm running the wraith on my 2700x, and I've never seen it crack 80 even under 100% CPU load for two straight hours

#

On a day that has ~85F ambient and no ac too

#

In a mATX case

open gazelle
#

Interesting.

sand falcon
#

AMD coolers are pretty good. If they supply it with the CPU, you can be pretty sure it will run okay as long as you don't try to OC too much

spiral zealot
#

yeah i was using my stock cooler on my r5 2600 and it was more than fine, in a tiny mini-atx case

open gazelle
#

I fully expect my friend to not even attempt to OC.

sand falcon
#

Other things I see is that you might be able to find cheaper ram. That will only save 5-10 bucks, so no biggie there

#

You could also probably go for a lower voltage GPU. Since your friend is new at building, and this is a mid tier build, you could go semimodular or nonmodular

spiral zealot
#

you can actually find faster ram for only like 4-5 bucks more, there's a newegg sale goin gon

#

3600 speed for only like...77 bucks

sand falcon
#

550w should be enough

spiral zealot
#

i think it's on a g-skill set

sand falcon
#

what's the cas on that?

spiral zealot
#

16?

#

let me see if i can find it

#

8 hours left on the sale though

#

but brings it to 77.99

#

and bumps you to 3600mhz

#

if you're shopping for ram and you want it now, that's a solid set at a great price

sand falcon
#

I just looked at the case a bit closer. It looks good

#

Especially coming with four fans and tempered glass

cursive wharf
#

CPU cooler seems quite pricy tbh. Mugen Rev C or Macho C should be close to same price

sand falcon
#

We were thinking just go stock

spiral zealot
#

yeah, if just running at stock speed, the prism should be fine

cursive wharf
#

Stock is also fine. But still a tad loud

#

Comparitive to the $40+ coolers

sand falcon
#

That's true, but it's a good sounding fan.

open gazelle
#

So, I've been told the CPU is just a bit much for a lil' 1660 Super.

#

It may make a little bit of sense, so I may just bump it down to a 3600 and have a 650w PSU rather than 750w monstrocity.

#

I feel like full modular is just the way to go in terms of cabling.

spiral zealot
#

not a terrible idea, it'll still be a really solid combo

open gazelle
#

It's all there and can be moved around at will. I'm open to suggestions however, as it is my 3rd build.

sand falcon
#

What are they planning to do with the build?

spiral zealot
#

i would still recommend the 3600 ram, just because the sale now pushes it into great deal territory and iirc 3600 speed ram pairs better with the higher end 3000 series CPU's

open gazelle
#

USE case is for gaming, MAYBE some streaming but doubt.

#

In my case it does, 3900x with an x570 Gaming Pro Carbon (w/ WiFi connectivity)

#

Was a pretty penny at launch

agile bear
#

Why x570?

open gazelle
#

Moreso for the WiFi capabilities, but if anyone has better suggestions, lemme know!

little leaf
#

@open gazelle The ram isn't the best

#

that latency is pretty high

#

do you need rgb ram?

lyric thistle
#

yes

wary tundra
#

why a m.2 sata?

#

also g3 poggers

lyric thistle
#

why not IDE to M.2 smh

little leaf
#

that psu is out of stcok though

open gazelle
#

Oh it is? Damnit.

little leaf
#

the ram is cheaper and lower latency

open gazelle
#

Nah, I just see that it looks nice.

#

I also was about to put a Vengence in but.

little leaf
#

the ram in there is a pretty good deal

open gazelle
#

Oooh. Nice!

#

I like that.

buoyant flame
#

Oh

#

Someone already did it

#

Whoops

#

Mp33? @little leaf

little leaf
#

oops wrong one lol

#

the mp34

#

is the right one

#

I'm pretty sure

wary tundra
#

I just did the same thing @buoyant flame

buoyant flame
#

What?

#

Same list?

wary tundra
#

I was just about to send it

buoyant flame
#

Oh lol

open gazelle
#

Which build can I take? I might just swap to a Fractal Design case, case is not a dealbreaker.

little leaf
#

ye no the case is mostly your choice

buoyant flame
#

Td500 mesh >:D

#

No choice KermitVader

wary tundra
#

whats your budget @open gazelle

open gazelle
#

$1000 and below.

little leaf
#

@little osprey don't buildin payments

open gazelle
#

HARD stringent cap at that.

little leaf
#

just save

#

Save up money

#

to buy at once

#

why....

buoyant flame
#

When Buying things individually over time, things are more likely to become outdated or incompatible by the time you have everything

little leaf
#

For what?

buoyant flame
#

Your only option is to buy a pre-built and pay in installments, which I don't recommend.

little leaf
#

Well @buoyant flame you could technicaly do the thing where you pay for parts in installments

buoyant flame
#

Seems like a lot of work lol

sand falcon
#

Melio's old computer went scottish, just fyi

buoyant flame
#

To have 10 installment payments on different thing at the same time

sand falcon
#

Newegg does do that. If you miss the payments though, bad news

open gazelle
#

@wary tundra

#

'

wary tundra
#

huh?

sand falcon
#

'

wary tundra
#

I went 60 cents over

buoyant flame
#

Uh, ya it does

wary tundra
#

it does

#

waaaaa

buoyant flame
#

Mine did

wary tundra
#

oh shoot then hold up

stoic island
#

Lolol

buoyant flame
#

Lul

wary tundra
#

I looked at what pcpp said lol

little leaf
#

@wary tundra why the cooler?

wary tundra
#

they lied to me peepoSadSip

#

because 3600 on a stock cooler

#

might be hot

#

but it works

little leaf
#

It'll work

wary tundra
#

but it wont be chilly

buoyant flame
#

Just gaming it should be fine. Workload is gonna get toasty tho most likely

stoic island
#

List is gone

little leaf
#

ye

wary tundra
#

I deleted it

little leaf
#

corsair customer support is really bad rn

#

like very bad

buoyant flame
#

Like VERY bad

#

Took them 2 weeks to get back to my email

stoic island
#

?

little leaf
#

Like ||VERY|| bad

#

@buoyant flame too lol

buoyant flame
#

?

little leaf
#

same damn

buoyant flame
#

K lol

little leaf
#

my typing is rusty

buoyant flame
#

rusty typing

little leaf
#

I miss my 70wpm with 90%

#

accuracy

buoyant flame
#

What happened to it

lyric thistle
#

why have good typing wen you could ujst not :)

buoyant flame
#

Jp would agree

little leaf
#

I stopped typing for a while and it just went down the drain

buoyant flame
#

Sad

#

Same thing happened to me tbh

wary tundra
buoyant flame
#

Good list šŸ‘Œ

wary tundra
#

meshify c 🤤

buoyant flame
#

But I'd switch it for a td500 mesh tbh

wary tundra
#

I want to build in that case soooo bad

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I usually put in a filler case and let whoever I made a list for choose their case

open gazelle
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Damn, should've mentioned that this person uses WiFi AND ethernet

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I guess I'll have to stick to the TUF x570

little leaf
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what....

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@open gazelle why

open gazelle
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Idk what MB to go with, is that one that's posted good with WiFi?

buoyant flame
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Aorus b450 pro wifi should be fine tbh

wary tundra
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that board is only 130 to

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good choice

buoyant flame
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Used to be 110 peepoSadSip

open gazelle
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My friend that they didn't care about prices, just below 1000.

wary tundra
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if you require wifi

sand falcon
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@little osprey What did you say your budget was?

analog hearth
latent vessel
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lol nice @analog hearth

little leaf
analog hearth
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good chair lol

little leaf
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I might make this pc and sell it

analog hearth
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for some reason idk why that should be $646.15

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something just seems weird about that lol

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not your fault though

little leaf
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Not my fault thats the persons budget

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lol

analog hearth
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but I'd for sure put an SSD in that

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nah I understand lol

little leaf
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no Ik i'm just saying for flipping purposes

analog hearth
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buy a new PC then flip it?

little leaf
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yep

analog hearth
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I mean I guess?

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idk haha

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what's the budget?

little leaf
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well I want to make about 100 in profit

analog hearth
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that makes more sense

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lol just seemed a little weird without the SSD

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you could also get a cheaper 1650 Super, apparently

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cheapest two on PCPartPicker are both $159.99

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should be enough to include at least a 256GB SSD for the price the system was at before

little leaf
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3 dollars lol

analog hearth
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lol worth it for faster boot times

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and believe me when I say that haha

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I wouldn't jack the system with motherboard and GPU features anyways if you're trying to make a profit

little leaf
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No I know that Its just the other 1650s

analog hearth
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ehhh. it's best to make a profit. unless it's something like, better reliability in the MSI AERO ITX OC that I just don't know about vs the other two

little leaf
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ye thats why I went with that one

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for 3 dollars I'd rather have more reliabilty

analog hearth
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ahh okay then I'd stick with that lmfao

little leaf
analog hearth
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that could sell for a profit. but wait for Mr's opinion haha

little leaf
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ye lol

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I already have someone wanting a pc

stoic island
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smart 80+ might be wack

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might burn up kinda wack

subtle halo
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@little leaf kewl

stoic island
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otherwise fine

little leaf
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@stoic island maybe I should go with a br

analog hearth
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oh is that PSU not even an 80+ Bronze?

stoic island
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yea

little leaf
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aight

analog hearth
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oh bruhh

little leaf
stoic island
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5$ windows

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otherwise good

little leaf
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@stoic island the windows is there just to show him price lol

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like look windows cost 100 bucks

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I have my own ways of getting windows though

little osprey
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I went a bought a pro one when my friend needed home. Whoops

jagged ember
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But pro runs multiple OS better right

little osprey
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Yeah, she already had home installed, and we just want to get rid of the watermark constantly on the screen when she was streaming.

sand falcon
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@fallen atlas State your question and answers we shall find

fallen atlas
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I purchased an AMD Ryzen 3 1200 processor and paired it with a ASUS Prime B450M-A motherboard, double checked the connections : Fans and motherboard turn on but I don't get any display on the screen. I fear the Bios on the board may not be compatible, have any of you run into this problem?

sand falcon
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1200g or 1200?

fallen atlas
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1200

sand falcon
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No g?

sand falcon
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What GPU do you have?

jagged ember
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check which port you plug your display into

fallen atlas
oblique vessel
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I don’t think the 1200 has integrated graphics

jagged ember
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not to my knowledge either

sand falcon
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The 1200 doesn't have integrated graphics, you'll need the GPU

jagged ember
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solution found maybe?

fallen atlas
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Hell yeah, here's im going to hook it up and try it out!

oblique vessel
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So basically I have a 450W psu in my build list, will I be fine if the expected power draw is around 360W max?

sand falcon
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Maybe?

oblique vessel
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I’ll be doing light overclocking if any

sand falcon
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Where did you get the expected power draw?

oblique vessel
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pcpartpicker

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And that’s like the maximum without overclocking