np 🙂
#building-and-recc-chat
little leaf
It wont explode unless you get bad gpu
livid sierra
yeah im a noob pc builder
half crown
u can look at Bitwit or Jayz2cents videos
foggy hazel
@livid sierra please understand/know this: There are no stupid questions, only silly answers.
little leaf
Dont cheap out on psu
livid sierra
Apevia ATX-PR800W Prestige 800W 80+ Gold Certified, RoHS Compliance, Active PFC ATX Gaming Power Supply thats the one i purchased is that bad ?
not shipped yet so i can get my money back
i didnt just buy it i searched it up before buying
little leaf
What happens if bad psu not my but thats what hapens if you got bad psu
livid sierra
OH hell nah WOOOF
half crown
oh wow Apevia
livid sierra
is mine bad for my pc tho ?
little leaf
Never heard of them
livid sierra
look on the newegg website they have it to
half crown
what did the reviews on your power supply say?
damn it only has 1 review lol
at least its a 5 star review lmao
livid sierra
lots of mixed reviews
livid sierra
but you know people be careless with the stuff they purchase
half crown
yea im looking at amazon's reviews on it
livid sierra
more good than anything
little leaf
Imo I would buy from reputable brand with good warenty
Because you really dont need 800wats for a 2070s
half crown
you dont
little leaf
And a highmid ranged cpu
little leaf
But you dont know if it gonna break just saying
half crown
i use a 2080s now
livid sierra
which do you prefer ? thats what i was refered to when looking up good psu
half crown
whats ur total budget
try to go for modular PSU's
they are usually a bit more expensive but have a cleaner look since u can opt to not use wires u dont need
livid sierra
$1200/$1300
half crown
yea u can build a solid rig with that
livid sierra
yes
half crown
either look at the Evga Supernova G series
little leaf
Aight ill do it in a sec
half crown
or Seasonic
livid sierra
im new to this lmao slow down
half crown
my bad lol
livid sierra
im a new born pc builder
little leaf
Go eith a or a- psu from above
livid sierra
@little leaf idk what that is
half crown
ive used evga PSU's in the last 4 rigs ive built
modular PSU is when the wires are attachable
livid sierra
mmm okay
half crown
that way any left over wires u dont need u simply dont have to use it
cleaner look
semi-modular is when all the wires are detachable except for the power cord to the motherboard
half crown
and non-modular is wires permanently attached
little leaf
half crown
yea they are lol
foggy hazel
@livid sierra difference between a good quality non-modular and a good quality modular PSU is at most 10 usd
half crown
^
little leaf
@foggy hazel corona prices dough
livid sierra
lol
half crown
yea the market is kinda crazy right now lol
foggy hazel
@little leaf not seen anything that says he is buying right this second yet
livid sierra
right i was lucky to get my case! it was sold out literally the next morning
half crown
GPU i bought for 580 i slike 800+ now fohhh lol
but those are 3rd party sellers on newegg taking advantage of out of stock items
what CPU are u getting?
livid sierra
i want to go with intel since im familiar with it
little leaf
No don’t
if you do anything besides gaming go amd
the 3800x is really cheap rn btw
livid sierra
my laptop runs on i3 ofc its very old but works great
half crown
yea intel is really nowadays solely for gaming-focused rigs
little leaf
amd on top if you do anything that needs more threads or cores
livid sierra
what is the name ill look for it now
half crown
AMD is better for al-around use and cheaper too
livid sierra
oh i want both gaming a regular usage not just gaming
half crown
yea AMD is ur best bet
little leaf
half crown
yea look at his list
little leaf
If you looking for 1300 dollars and already got case
livid sierra
you talking about ryzen?
livid sierra
i was also looking at that to but was not sure
little leaf
3800x is a great chiops
livid sierra
yeah i need a new power supply now lol since the one i had ordered is crap
half crown
u can cancel it
little leaf
Get it cause its on sale
livid sierra
i did
little leaf
70 bucks off
silk estuary
I'm still waiting on mine >->
half crown
wait whats on sale?
silk estuary
Oh! I got my ram today though!
half crown
wth
silk estuary
Corsair vengeance but RGB
little leaf
its insane price
half crown
a 3800X retail is 400?!
silk estuary
32 gb of nice
little leaf
yes
silk estuary
No?
livid sierra
i see but rn i can't afford it lol not for like 2 weeks even if it goes back to $400 ill still get it
silk estuary
On Amazon you can get it for 338
little leaf
Msrp is 400
half crown
whats MSRP for a 3900X?
silk estuary
500 or so maybe?
little leaf
No
silk estuary
499
little leaf
Hmm
half crown
yay 100 bucks off
silk estuary
little leaf
Im excited i’m building my second build in like 3 weeks
livid sierra
those prices are not bad at all
silk estuary
If everything goes right I'll have mine done by Tuesday
half crown
they arent
comparable intel chips of the same tier are considerably more
and i came from intel too to a 3900X
i7-6700K
little leaf
I went from core 2 duo to i79700k
little leaf
Was my uncles
half crown
i had a FX8350 before the i7 and i hated it
little leaf
I wanted a gaming pc and the spare parts he had were core 2 duo and 4 gigs of ddr2 ram
but he had a 970
half crown
970 was an amazing card
half crown
this was actually my first build where i went wild with my budget
cuz ill be stuck at home for 3-4 months might as well make it worth it lmao
little leaf
but then some error occured where a few of the cores weren’t showing up
still roostBOT
Madgadget#4042 has been warned
little leaf
@silk estuary imo should’ve went with 2070s
little leaf
2070s great card
silk estuary
I'm waiting for the next gpu series to come out before i get a better one
half crown
rumor has it the 3080ti is gonna be one hell of a beast
silk estuary
I'm sure it will be
half crown
i actually waiting to see what the new Ryzens are gonna be like
silk estuary
I'm also sure that the 2080ti will drop in price, lmfao
half crown
rumored 15-20% better performance than 3900X
livid sierra
thanks for everything again! ima head out
silk estuary
Drop harder than a sack of potatoes
foggy hazel
@silk estuary why would the 2080ti drop in price?
little leaf
Next time I upgrade will be after 2 new gens of gpu
half crown
np @livid sierra
silk estuary
Cuz a new series would have come out?
half crown
1080ti didnt drop much when RTX came out
silk estuary
Drop prices on the older gen so you can make room for the newer gen
Or at least, there'll be more "used" sales
foggy hazel
@silk estuary nah, just launch at a higher price
people are buying the current TI at the current price
foggy hazel
which, has NOT been selling at its actual MSRP since launch
silk estuary
Yeah... 1,300 dollars
silk estuary
Whats it actual msrp the- bruh
half crown
for FE/oem?
foggy hazel
welcome to the "supply/demand" market
silk estuary
I'm sure current times aren't helping
half crown
didnt need a 2080ti cuz my most graphic heavy game is my flight sim
silk estuary
I know what you said
foggy hazel
time will tell
foggy hazel
but from my pov, i dont see a logical reason (right now) for nvidia to launch at a lower msrp
foggy hazel
tomorrow is just the architecture reveal (if we are lucky) and the reveal of the HPC cards/models
half crown
aw
foggy hazel
at least, that is all i am expecting
silent swift
I need a monitor
half crown
what kind u looking for
tough ridge
can anyone recommend me a 700$ pc build for my friend, he wants to start gaming on a pc, he wants to start with apex,fortnite, and siege
hollow grove
i went 7 hours without error, but as soon as i boot up the crew 2 i get the same black screen, still having audio for about 5 seconds. complete shutoff than upon reboot it's a good single beap followed immediately by a gpu error code
tepid basalt
@tough ridge https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NzTbf9
you can shave off some cash from the case or downgrade the cpu
3300x sounds good but its price hasn't been updated yet
eager chasm
@tepid basalt that MB is out of stock and isn't reflected in the pricing
@tough ridge https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3rHff9
The GPU is a bit older but will still play all those games very well
eager chasm
You could drop the ram in my list to 8GB and get a 1650 super for more performance, but 8GB might be a bit tight in some games, if you can spare about $40-60 more just go straight for the 1650 super
shut rampart
One of my friend told me that case fan doesn’t really help temperature that much and it’s just make a bunch of noise is that true
celest fjord
Let me put it this way, the way an oven works is that it is an enclosed area that heats up with heating coils, if there was a fan in the oven it would not work as well. Different fans are more effective than others and airflow direction helps to move the heat from the case. So having an intake ( air going in) and exhaust ( air going out) really helps keep the temps down
sudden turret
cool air in, hot air out.
it's not big science.
as far as 'noise' that's debatable 🙂
variables = brand of fan and speed of the fan.
some fans you can have 100% and hardly hear them but others they are insanely loud.
eager chasm
@shut rampart that's true if you never turn the computer on, then it can't get hot 😄
sudden turret
pastel briar
One of my friend told me that case fan doesn’t really help temperature that much and it’s just make a bunch of noise is that true
@shut rampart
All I got to ask is what is your friend smoking? sounds like some good stuff I want....fans DO help, think about it, if fans did not help cool PCs and move cool into and hot air out of, why are they in just about every single PC? (fanless designs excluded)
valid loom
Alright, here are my specs, I'm trying to get into streaming, but don't know what I should set my streamlabs settings to, so the stream dosn't look bad.
-Ryzen 7 2700x
-GTX 1050
-16 gb ram
Let me know if I need to give anymore specs
pastel briar
as for streaming I can't really say much on that, but good internet connection will help also, as for the hardware I would say you got a good start, might need to bump up the GTX 1050 a bit, but I will defer to someone who runs a streaming rig to better advise
valid loom
Alright thanks
I've been looking into the rtx 2060 super as an upgrade
That should be enough
pastel briar
I would honestly wait for the new Nvidia cards to drop but something tells me they may be some what lackluster in some respects....still waiting to get more info tomorrow and see what Nvidia holds...
hopefully AMD gets a fire lit under there britches and comes out with some new cards with RTX functionality soon
valid loom
Yeah
I'm gonna wait until the 3000 series gpus, hopefully the 2000 ones will drop in price
silk estuary
That's my strategy too lol
fossil coral
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8BTxPn anything i should change?
eager chasm
looks good
fossil coral
yikes the prices are all wack
supple idol
budget?
fossil coral
its was like $780-800 at some point
eager chasm
@fossil coral Oh the 3300X is cheaper and performs about as good as the 1600AF
and yea PSU prices went up cause of the shortage
fossil coral
thats out?
eager chasm
your MB is out of stock and isn't even counted in the total
fossil coral
b r uh
eager chasm
you could use a cheaper kit of ram
supple idol
yea its approaching 3600 at that price
stoic island
psu way overpriced
stoic island
why not a mp34 for an ssd
supple idol
definitely agree. i am about to finish my build this coming friday and the whole experience has sucked due to human malware
fossil coral
yeah i dont even have the money for what it used to be, this is for future reference
i'll prob change some stuff eventually
supple idol
well in that case all of the prices are going to be hopefully dropping back down by the time you buy it
fossil coral
ye
supple idol
i think you can get a similar case for just a bit cheaper as well
unless you are like me and absolutely had to have a white one at a bit extra cost lol
fossil coral
yes
i am like you
i would've gotten the standard nzxt case but i heard it doesnt have the best airflow
supple idol
i like the compactness of the nzxt cases but i wanted something that was way different from my brothers build. which is why i went with a corsair crystal 570x white
but yea you just want somehing that has decent airflow and a design you like, without breaking the bank. and huge ups if it comes with case fans pre installed
eager chasm
the NZXT case is a meme XD
supple idol
they are also way cheaper, but obviously have less airflow than the meshify
supple idol
yea its definitely unique. i dig that front panel
fossil coral
looks cool imo
supple idol
form and function
best of both worlds
and yea from what i can see, that is the cheapest meshify white case
fossil coral
yea
supple idol
before human malware, and actually like 2 weeks ago or so, they were only 60 to 70 bucks
you use USD right?
fossil coral
yea
supple idol
okay yea they were about 60 to 70
fossil coral
just gotta wait this out ig
supple idol
and that honestly sucks. i wanted to wait it out, but i wanted my build ASAP lmao
fossil coral
either way im not exactly getting a lot of money rn so it'll be a while before i can afford it anyways
im considering flipping items on ebay to get more money
supple idol
yea i bought my parts from paycheck to paycheck, since i only make minimum wage and cant work much since im not 18 yet
and that could definitely work
fossil coral
im 14, i can technically get a part-time job but i really dont want to
im just not ready for that stuff
supple idol
well its really hard to find a job at the age, and on top of that, since the coronavirus is blowing around, a lot of places are closed and arent looking to hire. i got my first job at 16, now im 17, and ive found a lot of places really look at people under 18 as a last resort, and i couldnt imagine how difficult it would be to find one if youre under 16, let alone with covid 19
supple idol
thats the smart thing to do. mow grass, shovel snow, etc. slowly but surely, as long as you save, you could get there lmao
fossil coral
i have no excuses to not do that other than im too lazy which is DEFINITELY not a good mindset for me rn
supple idol
i started my build back in late february i think, and this friday im buying the final part. and thats only because the nursing home i work at raised the wages because of the difficulty of the time with the corona, otherwise i probably wouldnt have got it until june, july, or maybe even august
fossil coral
Nice
supple idol
yea its really exciting when you get it all put together. its kinda awkward looking right now because the computer is all built, except the cpu socket is empty and the AIO is just kinda hanging out because it has nowhere to go lol
im just scared that the r7 3700x will go out of stock by the time im able to buy it
fossil coral
i feel like i would much rather build it all at once
couldnt stand looking at a pc thats not done
would be torture for me lmao
raw igloo
Im saving enough so by the time the 3000 series gpus come out I can buy it
supple idol
so would i, that way you have less chance to damage something, but at the same time, since ive been waiting months, effectively working for nothing, i wanted something to at least look at to keep my motivation up to keep buying parts
raw igloo
Probably using intel gen 10 i9
Since the amd socket is discontinued anyways after this gen
fossil coral
raw igloo
Would have to change mobo anyways
cold sorrel
I went ahead and bought my case early because it was on sale. Everything else I'm waiting until after the release of the b550 boards next month.
supple idol
i have a 2070 super in my (unfinished) system right now, and then save up for the beastly 3080ti/3090. and for the motherboard, i bought an x570 to avoid that issue. i wanted it for the corsair mp600 gen 4, but i lucked out.
fossil coral
how much is ur finish build gonna cost?
fossil coral
jesus
raw igloo
2000+-?
fossil coral
must take forever to get that money
raw igloo
I have 1600
sullen spoke
hopefully it won't be more expensive than 20 series
fossil coral
im not spending more than $900
supple idol
yep, since late feb to now
raw igloo
I wanna leave some left so bank doesnt get mad
cold sorrel
I admit to not having it in me to wait until the Nvidia 3000 cards release or AMD's Zen 3. I'm just waiting for the b550 boards because I knew they're coming next month.
supple idol
hopefully not, and i honestly dont think it will, seeing how pascal gpus are still around the same price of turing ones
fossil coral
depends how long it will take for me to make my money
which, at my current rate, is a long time
supple idol
its really hard to discipline yourself. i know that feeling @cold sorrel
fossil coral
i do chores for money so i usually dont make more than $16 a week
supple idol
bo3 is fantastic, if youre only buying it for zombies
supple idol
nice price lmao. and yea @fossil coral but by the time you get a job, money will feel so much different, it was really weird for me. my first paycheck, i got $300
fossil coral
ive watched none
raw igloo
Cool stuff
supple idol
well i had this terrible mindset that i wanted the best and i wanted it now
raw igloo
What gpu?
supple idol
2070 S, paired with r7 3700x
supple idol
yea ik its kinda overkill for my needs but i just wanted it so badly lmfao
raw igloo
I get it
supple idol
im getting a 3080 ti tho, eventually. no questions asked. especially with next years tax return
raw igloo
The stimulus is supposed to be the tax return
so if you got stimulus that takes from return
supple idol
the stimulus was only part of a bill for economic impact so the economy didnt fall apart during this time. it is tax exempt and the money was yours to do whatever you felt like with it. you still will get a full return next year
raw igloo
Oh lol
supple idol
yea but my mom got the $500 for me and let me spend it how i wanted, bless her. i still wish i wouldve got the full $1200
then i wouldve bought a 2080 ti
supple idol
but now since 3000 is right around the corner, im sort of glad i didnt
fossil coral
Linus: Today we have 2 NVIDIA Titan RTX's, a AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X, 4x16 gb rgb ram, and water-cooling. Yep! We're doing a budget build!
supple idol
yoo i called that the ampere gpus would have 3 fans on the reference cards tho
kinda off topic but
raw igloo
3 fan looks sick
supple idol
think about it tho
pascal were blower style
turing were dual fan
it only makes sense
when they drop, im definitely getting an EVGA FTW3 3080 ti
thatll look beautiful
raw igloo
price speculation?
supple idol
$1600 mayhaps
supple idol
the evga 2080ti ftw3 is about $1500
eager chasm
How bout NOT picking the more expensive version lol
supple idol
its tough! lmao
raw igloo
i just microwaved an uncrustable help
supple idol
yucky
deep skiff
why
supple idol
the intelligence is through the roof
raw igloo
my hand is hurting
supple idol
i wonder why that is
raw igloo
i got a frozen one to cool my hand down
supple idol
im talking about the 3 most recent
pascal: 1 fan
turing: 2 fans
and then ampere will have 3. reportedly, anyway
foggy hazel
and Volta is between Pascal and Turing
supple idol
but yes i get what you are saying, im just refering to the reference cards of series' of gpus
foggy hazel
technically 2
supple idol
the other architectures are for whole lines
foggy hazel
and the Ampere rumours are just that, rumours
untold trail
I know my mobo fits into my case, and my cpu fits into my mobo but how do i make sure my gpu can fit into my case
foggy hazel
it is way way way too early to start talking about desktop variant cooling solutions on products that have not even been announced yet
supple idol
what gpu and case?
foggy hazel
@untold trail check the manufacturers page for both products. Normally , it will tell you the numbers you need to know
foggy hazel
length/height of the card
supple idol
gpu as in graphics card, sorry
untold trail
oh my b that was a mess up on my part. radeon rx580
supple idol
that case supports up to a 410 mm GPU, and im sure youll be just fine
what brand rx580?
supple idol
the dual fan one?
untold trail
yes
eager chasm
well those were blower style cards, not really a "fan" design like most GPUs
supple idol
its about 230 mm so youre a okay
supple idol
the clearance in that case for a GPU is 410mm and that card you picked out is only 230mm so youll be okay
hes referring to what i said earlier i think
supple idol
thats alright
pastel briar
@foggy hazel I think in general most have forgotten about volta...
also if were talking about this little (big?) guy, all I see is a data centere oriented device similar to the Quadro just with functionality added, Cool, still waiting to see what the "consumer" side will bring but so far not thrilled.....though having the Mellanox integrated is a plus....
muted dawn
Anyone know what this sound from my pc is
pastel briar
A silent video? that is black screen?
eager chasm
I hear air moving, and that's normal
pastel briar
I can barely hear a fan...
muted dawn
U not hear fan rattle
muted dawn
If my fans in warranty could I get my money back or nah?
pastel briar
@muted dawn you would need to contact the seller for questions like that, it really depends on there policies and what now, same can apply to the MFG of the fans as well
pastel briar
as for fan "rattle" it could be that your fan is simply loose IE toghten the screws some or put anti vibration rubber pads/feet on them and done
orchid coyote
Hey guys, I've been having a problem with my computer that I believe could be an issue with the cpu, but I'm really hoping it's not
fossil coral
whats ur problem
orchid coyote
For some reason I've been having random lag spikes in my games and normal applications where my ping spikes up for no reason,I've also had my task manager open in order to see how it impacted my computer and the cpu percentage also shoots up(on normal applications from 8%->~30%) could that be an internet is it my cpu?
stoic island
Yea, thats pretty normal
something might suddenly want to load in
or start up
causing CPU to ramp up for a second
eager chasm
@orchid coyote are you looking at your CPU graph in multicore mode? right click the graph and switch to logical processor view
orchid coyote
I just switched the graph
eager chasm
having a one of your cores super over taxed can cause a game to stutter
orchid coyote
and currently wifi, but I'm getting my ethernet working fairly soon
How do I make sure that it doesn't get over taxed?
sudden turret
what's your internet package? and type of router?
orchid coyote
i7-7700k, and pretty much every game
sudden turret
probably needs a good network reset
stoic island
Wait wait wait, @orchid coyote are the lag spikes you're talking about Ping spiking, or your frames stuttering causing lag
eager chasm
so are you connected to your network by 2.4G or 5G?
orchid coyote
@stoic island I think both?
eager chasm
Oh what's your GPU?
orchid coyote
and normally 5G
sudden turret
sorry for the question barrage, its better to help you lool
The more we know the better.
stoic island
So does your fps drop to like 10fps every once in a while?
stoic island
Frame stutters are usually CPU based
sudden turret
game on SSD?
orchid coyote
thats what i figured
eager chasm
are your games using the 1080? or is your integrated graphics the default?
orchid coyote
@sudden turret for the most part yes
eager chasm
you might wanna check that in NVIDIA control panel
crap performance in ALL games might be your default GPU is the IGPU
orchid coyote
@eager chasm I'm pretty sure it's using the 1080 or most of these probably wouldn't be able to run at max settings right? 😅
eager chasm
they AREN'T running at max settings
you just said you are having problems in ALL games
orchid coyote
yeah but it can run, just the occasional lag spikes
sudden turret
hm
orchid coyote
but you have a point
sudden turret
but it's not your worst fear, your cpu is fine 🙂
eager chasm
right click your desktop and open the NVIDIA control panel and double check your default GPU
just to make sure
orchid coyote
where would it show my defaults?
pastel briar
@orchid coyote what are you plugging your (i am guessing) HDMI cable into, the main board, or the GPU?
if your not sure take a good clear picture of the back side of your PC we we could go from there also, if you have a GPU (external) your PC should (generally) not be using the onboard iGPU (most boards will auto disable the iGPU as well)
orchid coyote
my moniters are connected directly to the GPU
orchid coyote
no worries (:
pastel briar
ok, so we can at least establish that (in theory) the PC is using the GPU at this point
stoic island
Is it possible for you to go in a game and record when the spikes happen?
eager chasm
is it only online games or ALL games even single player?
orchid coyote
I'm pretty sure it's also single player, but it's been a while since I've played a solely offline game
stoic island
(With rivatuner and msi afterburner osd would be ideal)
orchid coyote
but my concern is that it happens out of game too, just not as much as I realize
eager chasm
have you updated your drivers with GeForce Experience?
pastel briar
@stoic island while I understand the idea behind that recording could also introduce additional "spikes" and if its happening on all games that may indicate an issue with settings with in the Nvidia Geforce experience program which I would suggest making sure it is up to date, and also checking for the latest drivers
orchid coyote
like my typing would freeze up on discord and my cpu spikes up
pastel briar
@orchid coyote I would suggest checking for a driver update as it sounds like you may need to update them
orchid coyote
I just updated my geforce drivers 2 days ago and the problem still remains
pastel briar
and I agree typing causing a freeze is not normal
stoic island
@pastel briar It shouldn't affect it much as recording does not take much CPU power, and I believe a 7700k should be able to handle it just fine
I wonder if it is something with the CPU
eager chasm
sounds like something is over taxing a core but it's not a game
orchid coyote
what could it be?
eager chasm
sooo back to my original idea, but look for a different source
pastel briar
too bad I cant get a good look at your task manager to see if there is something going on
stoic island
yea
or hwinfo or something similar to check CPU frequency & temps & stuff
cpu-z or smth
eager chasm
@orchid coyote press CTRL+SHIFT+ESC, then go to the start up tab and show us what's there
eager chasm
I like a smooth fast startup XD
sullen spoke
always good to clean up the startup
stoic island
most are disabled so meh
latent storm
finally got my psu 🙏🏻
stoic island
good
sullen spoke
i have too many https://i.imgur.com/Sc93l0G.png
stoic island
dayum
sullen spoke
adobe smh
eager chasm
my Bios time WINS
latent storm
except it’s on back order so i have to wait 2 weeks for it to ship
eager chasm
suck it!
sullen spoke
stoic island
I mean ryoku you want me to disable all my stuff
orchid coyote
for some reason my print screen is being wonky, give me a sec
stoic island
and reboot?
sullen spoke
my windows snipping tool doesn't like me, so i got sharex instead 🙂
foggy hazel
@pastel briar thats one variant of it, the other (and imo main) variant is a SXM one
stoic island
brb
pastel briar
@foggy hazel right, but I am not going to jump on the Hype train like most people seem to do 😄
orchid coyote
I don't believe I'm allowed to send images on here
stoic island
ick
eager chasm
DM it to me
sullen spoke
not until lvl 3
stoic island
got my bios time to 18.4 sec
eager chasm
I'll post it for you
stoic island
good nuff I guess
stoic island
lmao
my ssd is 90% full anyways
I can't complain with 18sec
900gb/~950gb usable
eager chasm
ngl, dont even know what some of that junk is
stoic island
gonna clean it up
orchid coyote
also while looking at the application processes for CPU during the lag spikes, the thing that spikes up is strangely windows explorer
orchid coyote
file explorer
orchid coyote
ah, right ofc
sullen spoke
stoic island
cleaning stuff up time
already uninstalled/moved install folder for quite a few games
like csgo
sullen spoke
what kinda mp4 ya got there
sullen spoke
ahh
orchid coyote
wait so is there anything else I should do?
stoic island
bc some I already scrapped together into videos
orchid coyote
i know most of it
stoic island
leave it alone :p
orchid coyote
the only thing I don't really are delayed launcher and the creative stuff
stoic island
look at all of these siege clips lmao @sullen spoke
sullen spoke
man how long are they
sullen spoke
i moved all my old recording to a separate drive
stoic island
I delete them once in a while
I combine clips into vids sometimes, and move that to a separate drive
so I can delete the clips
pastel briar
Himachi....good ol' ham n cheese....that can go away, that will cause similar issues, some of the other things like the corsair stuff, and the killer thing, java and java can also be changed to not start with windows (or run on there own unless you want them or need them)
sullen spoke
i like to keep records of everything https://i.imgur.com/Ef8Krym.png
eager chasm
@orchid coyote nothing super unusual in your start up, do you have an anti-virus?
orchid coyote
Nothing besides the basic windows one@eager chasm
@pastel briar alright I disabled those
pastel briar
@orchid coyote I would suggest rebooting (verify the respective programs "start with windows" function is off) and that should help some
also if you have any type of AV running I would suggest turning it off temporarily to see if its causing any issues as @eager chasm has suggested
orchid coyote
How do I check the start with windows things? Is that just the startup applications
eager chasm
if not I'd look at possibly getting an antivirus and running a scan cause random spikes of processing that stall your computer aren't normal
pastel briar
@orchid coyote usually the applications will have with in there settings an option along the lines of "start with windows" or similar wording wise that you can set to off or untick
orchid coyote
are there any free ones you'd recommend? @eager chasm
@pastel briar ah okay, I don't believe I have any with that on, but I'll check
sullen spoke
malwarebytes is fine
stoic island
yay I just purged like 300gb of stuff off my C drive
Malwarebytes is pretty neat
time to run cdm
for fun
weird
whats with my q8t1 read?
orchid coyote
well after rebooting I didn't seem to run into any lag spikes, and now I'm doing a full scan on windows defender just in case
it's normal for the CPU to increase a tonne while running that correct?
pastel briar
@orchid coyote with in a reasonable amout yes there will be an increase
orchid coyote
so not 80% cpu?
half crown
Anyone have experience using a touchscreen monitor as a 2nd or 3rd monitor?
pastel briar
@zinc beacon it would work, depending on your case, if it takes a full ATX sized PSU your fine, if your case is a SFF and takes a SFF sized PSU then you will need to get one that is a smaller size
@half crown not really, but what are you wanting to know, perhaps I can try to guide you in seeking an answer
untold trail
are there problems with psus fitting into cases?
zinc beacon
My old PSU was 500W but very cheap so it exploded
pastel briar
@untold trail is that a question for me or for @zinc beacon?
zinc beacon
I just don't wanna spend money on something that'll blow up again
untold trail
i wanna make sure my case isnt a mistake
midnight pelican
@cursive wharf psu stuffs come help
pastel briar
@untold trail ok, as for issues generally no, just need to be mindful of the case/PSU size in some cases (no pun intended here)
untold trail
yeah im not sure how to interpret measuremeents
pastel briar
@untold trail what case do you have/did you purchase>?
untold trail
td500 mesh
pastel briar
what psu did you buy?
untold trail
EVGA BQ 500 W
pastel briar
your good
untold trail
cool
pastel briar
case and PSU will work fine
untold trail
thanks
pastel briar
though I would suggest for ease of cable management going either Semi-modular or full modular
@stoic island pretty much said what I was about to say 😄 so yea
untold trail
no idea wtf that means
latent storm
idk if anyone cares but gta is free on epic games store rn
stoic island
Small-form-factor
pastel briar
that just referrs to size of the case
stoic island
what does sfx stand for?
pastel briar
@untold trail generally yes, but I can even cable manage my 4u rack mount case (and have)
stoic island
I actually don't know :P
pastel briar
@stoic island id have to look it up honestly
untold trail
ill stick with this for a while
stoic island
lmao I guess they just wanted to add a X for some reason
untold trail
so gpu, mobo, cpu, and psu are all accounts for in terms of accountability. Anything else i should worry about
pastel briar
@untold trail not much else, just want to make sure (if your using a Ryzen CPU mainly) your ram is "compatible" with the CPU (speeds in MHz) and is of decently fast speeds
untold trail
mind if i send my ram and cpu and u help me out?
pastel briar
thats fine
untold trail
not sure how to make sure of that
zinc beacon
I bought that pre built. psu blew. Im checking to see if that other psu will be a good idea
untold trail
ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6 core, G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
zinc beacon
zinc beacon
Why did that send 3 times smh
cold sorrel
I was about to ask why you spammed the same images three times
zinc beacon
Im so sorry
pastel briar
@untold trail your memory would be fine, I would suggest if you can considering slightly faster memory speeds if you can afford doing so, Ryzen does benefit better from higher speeds
zinc beacon
I don't know wth happened
untold trail
uhh sure
pastel briar
@zinc beacon not a big deal, I gathered what I needed info wise so all is good 😄
pastel briar
@untold trail again they ARE fine
hollow grove
i put my rx 580 back in to see if i could play games for more than 5 minutes without my pc shutting off and now it won't even boot into bios
untold trail
i did
no problem
i think ill stick with these tho
im severely over my original budget
hollow grove
i'm getting really mad rn
pastel briar
@untold trail I just personally would not go below the 3000MHz speeds with Ryzen
midnight pelican
@zinc beacon that an i7700 runs about 130w max to to be safe let’s say it’s 150 for your system. A gym 1070 can run up to 220w on full load. The rest of your system will take 100. I recommend getting a 550w psu
zinc beacon
Ok. Thank you. I'll go look for one on NE
pastel briar
@midnight pelican I would have suggested a 600W or a 650W but that is just me 😄 (plus it gives a bit of extra head room to work with, assuming your system does total out to 500W continuous load which will not always happen)
pastel briar
ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6 core, G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
@untold trail
Link to memory??
zinc beacon
Dont know why its doing that crap.
stoic island
mwe white
zinc beacon
I hope it deleted them
stoic island
weird
huh
theres a MWE gold, MWE Bronze, and that
dont see a mwe white
so I assume they classed mwe white as just mwe 80+
zinc beacon
God damn, I can't win for losing.
deep skiff
yea check the psu tier list hei pinned in this channel
zinc beacon
No matter what I find, nothing is ever gonna work
deep skiff
i'd try to get B or higher
zinc beacon
Yea if I wanna spend 200+ on a power supply
stoic island
since I set Corsair CX as my baseline
deep skiff
yuh
stoic island
can you just wait
zinc beacon
No not really, my son is coming to stay and needs to be able to do his school work.. i'm stressing out
hollow grove
can somebody please help me try and fix my pc?
i've tried 2 psus and still no boot
2 graphics cards, no boot.
stoic island
motherboard
hollow grove
no way dude
deep skiff
is everything plugged in right
stoic island
what
half crown
@pastel briar I wanna use a small 10-12 inch touchscreen monitor as a 3rd monitor solely for pc monitoring software and discord
stoic island
its motherboard checking time
hollow grove
if i have to buy a new x570 board i'm gonna get really pissed off
stoic island
what is it right now
deep skiff
@hollow grove if it is the motherboard you can rma it
stoic island
what is the issue
stoic island
Honestly people blame PSU more than needed, and GPU more than needed :P
Motherboard seems like the most under-blamed part
hollow grove
everything is turning on but i'm not getting to bios
deep skiff
mr1111 mobo hating gang 😳
zinc beacon
Ok I'm getting the EVGA 550M B3
stoic island
why
zinc beacon
Hope it works
stoic island
why not cx 450w
deep skiff
yeah
stoic island
without even clicking on the review..
onyx whale
Hello hello
stoic island
It's not rated on the PSU tier list
zinc beacon
Damn :/
modern shadow
Hi
deep skiff
a lot of people think you need a 600w+ psu, when top end parts can easily run with 400-450w of power
stoic island
Yea
modern shadow
Just talk @onyx whale
onyx whale
Is there a place I can link my pcpartpicker setup I'm looking into so I can get some advice about it
modern shadow
Here
onyx whale
Ah alright
modern shadow
Yeah
onyx whale
Well right now I have an Intel i5 3570k
modern shadow
Just chat
cursive wharf
@stoic island For SFX and the extra "x" I'd say comes from ATX
ATX: "ATX (Advanced Technology eXtended) is a motherboard and power supply configuration specification developed by Intel in 1995 to improve on previous de facto standards like the AT design"
onyx whale
I'm looking to upgrade to a Ryzen 5 3600X or 3700
modern shadow
3600 is enough
stoic island
@cursive wharf but that doesn't fit in any word in "small form factor..."
onyx whale
Right now I have a 500 PSU Corsair, I'm thinking about getting a 750
deep skiff
@stoic island wdym Small Form facXtor
stoic island
Small form extended?
little osprey
Can you run a pc on jus ssd and not hd?
cursive wharf
mr1111, idk, maybe
stoic island
Yes
deep skiff
yes
stoic island
Zix yes
modern shadow
Yes
little osprey
Fs 😘
stoic island
hmm
onyx whale
I have an ASUS P8Z77V-PRO DDR3 in it
stoic island
I honestly don't know what I deleted when I wiped my drive
zinc beacon
Ty
modern shadow
@onyx whale just let someone post 4 u
onyx whale
Nice
modern shadow
Dm me it
onyx whale
@modern shadow no prob
stoic island
Just some games I barely play
cursive wharf
@onyx whale Do you have a 3990x OCed and 2080S or better? Or a 3700x and 2080S SLI? If not, why 750w?
stoic island
lmao
onyx whale
Good point.
stoic island
add in "10900k and 2080"
modern shadow
@onyx whale turn off private
deep skiff
bruh mATX psu time
zinc beacon
Is their shipping prime worth the upgrade?
stoic island
Like 3990x tdp and 10900k leaked power draw is pretty damn close
3990x tdp is 280w
10900k leaked max power draw was 250w
modern shadow
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/catmancatplan/saved/qv8qpg @onyx whale link
Here
Review
cursive wharf
3990x OCed is about 400w, which is what I went on
pastel briar
@deep skiff oh F no! not the Chinese IED bargain bin PSU!
cursive wharf
PBO rather
deep skiff
@onyx whale what gpu?
stoic island
well
onyx whale
And I am considering getting a a 2070 super to replace the 970 strix ASUS
stoic island
10900k leaked stock was 250w
cursive wharf
but stock is the TDP for AMD usually
normal crater
Hi i was looking for suggestions as want to buy a mechanical keyboard fullsize with meida control budgeting around $130 mainly for gaming
stoic island
I'm gonna wish intel fanboys luck
onyx whale
I'm just looking for basic 1440 gaming at 80 to 100 frames per second
hollow grove
i'm about to just sell my pc, i'm done with it constantly failing i'm about to go back to consoles
cursive wharf
Lol, I seen a nice post about the 240mm AIO having troubles cooling a 10900k. Comments had people mostly saying that the AIO was trash rather then just believe that Intel is dying rn
onyx whale
12-1600
stoic island
Yea I saw that
onyx whale
USD
onyx whale
12-1600 USD**
cursive wharf
idk, I never really read the post
stoic island
Hei you want to make a list? I'll be off to eat lunch
deep skiff
lmao i wanna see how low the 10900k has to go for it to hit the 125w, idk if the base clocks are that low
onyx whale
Hypercore posted my Redux link
woven crypt
Does anyone have any recommendations for sites to purchase laptop parts? I know somebody that's looking into purchasing a laptop, but is having a difficult time finding the specs they want. It isn't for gaming, just for work
onyx whale
So is my Corsair 500 watt PSU good enough for the tomahawk pro as well as SSDs and new RAM?
modern shadow
@onyx whale why such an expensive case?
woven crypt
I'm not seeing laptop components anywhere
onyx whale
Hypercore, I purchased it years ago on Black Friday when it was like 80 bucks
modern shadow
Oh
onyx whale
The monitor the case.
Those parts you see listed like the Western digital 2 blues SSDs are what I'm looking at for OS and one of them for games and other programs
Is there a difference between running the OS off of an m2 stick on the motherboard
stoic island
faster
onyx whale
That's just for login though right?
stoic island
I mean m.2 is great for everything
onyx whale
And I'm definitely looking to upgrade my monitor because it flickers a lot
stoic island
@onyx whale Okay so I was juts throwing 650w out there because those are more common than 550w, and have better luck being in stock
550w is fine if you can find a good one in stock
onyx whale
Right now my main thing is probably the GPU and the CPU
cursive wharf
@onyx whale Get this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PW8dWb
stoic island
there goes hei
PSU is backordered btw
actually that isn't bad, 2-3 weeks.
rmx850w was the one with 4-5weeks
deep skiff
just glanced at the windows thing and i was like no way hei is gonna put a $100+ key in there
onyx whale
Why the Ryzen 7 and not the high-end Ryzen 5?
stoic island
... "high-end Ryzen 5" ..?
deep skiff
500?
deep skiff
cheapest 2070S are 500 rn
stoic island
@deep skiff @cursive wharf I disabled best buy in my preferences because best buy has most things out of stock, but still shows as in stock
and as you can see, it is out of stock.
stoic island
cheapest decent one was 550$ when I checked
onyx whale
I'm on until but I'm looking to go AMD.
Is a gigabyte RTX about as good as an ASUS RTX?
deep skiff
modern shadow
So rx 5700 xt?
stoic island
pcpp is high
onyx whale
I've also been looking at the RX 5700 XT
It's between that and the 2070 or 2080 super
deep skiff
@onyx whale the difference between the different companies (asus, msi, evga, etc) are just who makes the coolers, one brand isnt better than the other for everything
onyx whale
Gotcha so it's basically customer opinion
cursive wharf
5700XT is a good choice. The 2070S/2080S isnt worth it unless you have the budget, which you do
modern shadow
And vrms
onyx whale
And different brands have different customer bases
deep skiff
except amd gpus never buy asus
little osprey
Ps5 or pc
stoic island
pc5
onyx whale
Right now my tower is basically all Corsair, the ram the tower the PSU
little osprey
Heard they been saying that the ps5 will be better or the same as a high end pc
onyx whale
The main reason I got this case 5 to 7 years ago was because of the capability of expansion in the future
stoic island
Zix we'll have to see
onyx whale
I got my stimulus check recently, so I'm going to be waiting two weeks and I'll have roughly $1,800 to spend
deep skiff
yeah and pretty sure a navi based card wont beat a 2080 ti rn
modern shadow
Heard the democrats are hand out up to $6000 per family 💰
little osprey
Yeah they just have to have the president pass it off or some like that
It’s gonna be 2k per month
onyx whale
So what's the difference between big Navi, the one Nvidia is coming out with Ampere?
modern shadow
No more politics and money
little osprey
Nd still 500 per kid
onyx whale
No problem hypercore. Still learning the rules here
deep skiff
big navi/ampere are still rumored for performance, we just have to wait
onyx whale
So is the consensus the 2070 super or the 5700X Radeon
deep skiff
2070S for performance, 5700xt for value (has slightly buggy drivers, no nvenc encoder, not rtx, and a few other features missing)
onyx whale
RTX has confirmed ray tracing which is something very foolish that I want, and I know it cost a little extra but I think it's going to be worth it
eager chasm
except only like 5 games have RTX lol
onyx whale
Shame
stoic island
Minecraft rtx
stoic island
Quake RTX
eager chasm
I prefer PTGI for java minecraft
stoic island
On launch it was like 3
onyx whale
As of April 18th there are 14 of them
stoic island
Remember seeing like 20