#building-and-recc-chat

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little leaf
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I mean i have to wait 2 weeks for 3100

sudden turret
cursive wharf
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@little leaf why 3100 tho? The core to CCX layout is bad compared to 3300x and that cant be changed

cold sorrel
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I'm glad I jumped on buying my case when I did. It's now out of stock on Newegg with "Sold out"... meaning it might be a discontinued model at this point.

oak moss
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what is Aorus lighting software called? ๐Ÿค”

cloud drum
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Does the fan face up or down

oak moss
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some face up and some face down. mine faces up @cloud drum

cloud drum
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Now my computer won't display on my monitor

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How do you fix this

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??

oak moss
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hmm

cloud drum
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It happen after I switched the Psu

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Everything is on

oak moss
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bad hdmi cable?

granite imp
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@cloud drum if your case is vented under your psu, face the fan down, otherwise face up.

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@cloud drum check gpu connection time psu at psu and at gpu.

cloud drum
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Time?

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PSU at PSU?

granite imp
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To*

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Sorry

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On mobile

cloud drum
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What is that

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PSU to PSU

granite imp
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Check your connection between your psu and gpu

cloud drum
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Oh

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It's on

granite imp
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And I was saying to check both the connection at the psu, and also at the gpu.

cloud drum
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The GPU is on

granite imp
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Did you gpu some loose from the mobo

sullen spoke
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Has the pc worked before

granite imp
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Come

cloud drum
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Yah it has ghost

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None of my mouse and keyboard aren't turning on either

granite imp
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I would start at the monitor, and work your way back. Make sure monitor is on and has power, secure display connection at monitor, secure it at gpu, secure gpu to mobo

sullen spoke
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Maybe itโ€™s not posting

cloud drum
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The monitor works I tested it with the Xbox

granite imp
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Are your mouse and keyboard wired into your mobo io or your cases front panel io?

sullen spoke
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Check if something like the ram came loose

cloud drum
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Mobo and case

granite imp
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Is the power supply working? ๐Ÿค”

cloud drum
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My mouse isn't on

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Even tho it's in

granite imp
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๐Ÿค”

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Time to take it all apart and rebuild. ๐Ÿ˜‚

cloud drum
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Rebuild?

sudden turret
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if that's connected to your gpu

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they need to be in pci-e

cloud drum
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Ohh really

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I mean they're were pcie connectors on PSU

foggy hazel
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@cloud drum those 2 cables are connected to what?

cloud drum
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The case fans and SSD

foggy hazel
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okay

cloud drum
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I prolly have to plug I'm the pcie and use those connectora uh

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In*

foggy hazel
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that is practical, if you want the GPU to actually power on.

cloud drum
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Even tho it's lights are on?

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Ok I'll try that

foggy hazel
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you didnt read any of the manuals did you?

cloud drum
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No

foggy hazel
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We have a much easier time helping you IF you actually try to help yourself

cloud drum
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I found that the hard the way

sudden turret
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ffs

mellow basalt
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Is this a good build?

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It put the wrong one my bad ๐Ÿ˜…

foggy hazel
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its a solid enough one

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i dont know anything about that specific PSU thou

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the rest looks solid enough

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personally, i would go for a bit faster ram

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but that is about it

mellow basalt
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Whatโ€™s faster?

mellow basalt
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Later down the road imma add RGB

foggy hazel
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as i said, your list is solid enough

sudden turret
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I think I posted a 2x8 in #tech-deals for a decent price

fair ermine
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just get corsair if you want rgb or trident g-skill

mellow basalt
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@sudden turret I donโ€™t see it

mellow basalt
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@fair ermine which one?

sudden turret
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93 bucks for 3600mhz cl18

mellow basalt
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Thatโ€™s actually a good deal

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@sudden turret is there any deals on mechanical keyboards?

sudden turret
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probably ๐Ÿ˜›

granite imp
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@mellow basalt

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If you order a racer keyboard from bestbuy you get a free racer mouse

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Lemme find out which model it is

fair ermine
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razer viper

tender field
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i am upgrading my computer i doing custom watercooling do you know what's a good case for

analog hearth
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what's racer?

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never heard of that brand

fair ermine
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lmao

granite imp
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Box car racer

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Budget brand

sudden turret
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@tender field kinda depends on your budget

mellow basalt
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Razer you mean?

analog hearth
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oh Razer

tender field
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i look good case

granite imp
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Yes, I know it was very difficult to figure that. Iโ€™m glad itโ€™s cleared up now. ๐Ÿ™„

mellow basalt
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@fair ermine you deleted it multiple times ๐Ÿ˜‚

analog hearth
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two completely different words

fair ermine
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deleted what?

mellow basalt
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@fair ermine I asked which Corsair?

sudden turret
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cant post links with grey name rapid.

mellow basalt
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Ohhhhh

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Can you dm me the link?

granite imp
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Like I said, I know it was difficult for you, but we got passed it together. Now we are a stronger unit

analog hearth
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okay big deal

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we got it now

fair ermine
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oh it wont let me send the link for it but the vengence rgb pro

granite imp
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I know, thatโ€™s what I said.

fair ermine
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yup

tender field
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Thermaltake View 91 RGB is good Case for Watercooling

mellow basalt
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For me?

tender field
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me

mellow basalt
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Ohhhh

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Is watercooling better?

cloud drum
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Ok so I used a

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The pcie cables

mellow basalt
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I was so confused ๐Ÿ˜‚

cloud drum
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PC is on but still no display

mellow basalt
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Pretty nice build

cloud drum
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@foggy hazel

granite imp
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@mellow basalt not so nice if it doesnโ€™t work.

cloud drum
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@sudden turret

sudden turret
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put the old psu back in

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was working fine yea?

cloud drum
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Yah it was

sudden turret
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so two things happened.

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either that psu is messed up

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or you messed something up during the swap.

cloud drum
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Hmm

sudden turret
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so go back how ya had it...

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if it boots as it should.

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something wonky with that psu

cloud drum
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Ok

sudden turret
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if it still doesn't come on..

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you done did goof'd

still roostBOT
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Tifa#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

cloud drum
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I hope its not

sudden turret
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that's all I got

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or can think right now.

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naed probably say the same thing, just in different context.

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๐Ÿ˜›

foggy hazel
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@cloud drum one piece of advice that will work is this: read the manual

sudden turret
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We can not stress that enough.

foggy hazel
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IF the parts actually work, following the manual WILL work

sudden turret
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read read read read read.

cloud drum
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Yah

sudden turret
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what model/wattage was the old psu compared to this one?

cloud drum
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Wait

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Finally something

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We got something

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Yes

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OMG

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Finally something

sudden turret
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so

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yeah

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didn't I tell you to not overclock

cloud drum
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Yah you did

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I disabled it

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Like you said

sudden turret
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that says otherwise ๐Ÿ˜„

cloud drum
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But I showed you pics

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Of me disabling it

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It was already set to 3.6ghz

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Why was it still on 4.2

sudden turret
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You must have grimlins in your bios

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that change settings after you hit save

cloud drum
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The CPU won't change the clock speed the BIOS was set on

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It still says 4.2 on task manager

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But AMD ryzen master says this

pastel briar
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@cloud drum What Ryzen CPU are you using?

cloud drum
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3600

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Ryzen 5

pastel briar
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ok, there are some things with in Bios that will conflict with Ryzen master, on the 3XXX CPUs you should use one or the other I don't remember exactly what the items were off the top of my head but that may be whats going on here, I have had this happen to me on client builds I have done so I am just giving you a heads up

cloud drum
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When you say one or the other what do you mean

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Ryzen master and the BIOS

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?

pastel briar
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you should either use bios, or ryzen master, not both

cloud drum
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Well this was happening before I had ryzen master install

pastel briar
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im trying to see if I can locate my notes about this so I can give you correct info as I don't want to say something wrong

cloud drum
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Okay

pastel briar
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oh this happened before you installed RM?

cloud drum
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Yah

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I used ryzen master to verify

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What was set

pastel briar
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ok, sounds like a Bios issue, and fair enough, have you updated the bios to the latest from the MFG? (check that your not configured to boot from a back up bios also)

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one of my servers kepy changing my settings even though I kept changing them each time, wound up that the previous user/owner? of the server set the bios jumper to boot from the reserve bios

cloud drum
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I updated three weeks ago

mellow basalt
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@granite imp ๐Ÿคฃ

pastel briar
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ok

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I would try resetting the BIOS to factory defaults and see if the issue persists, and if im misunderstanding your issue please let me know so I can provide accurate info to you

cloud drum
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Will that reset it to it's 2017 version

stoic island
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Reset cmos time?

cloud drum
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Or will it stay to the current version

pastel briar
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no, it will just take it to the preconfigured set up as if the board left the factory with the currently loaded bios on the board

cloud drum
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Oh ok

pastel briar
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were just going to take it back to when the board was born

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but the BIOS will be what ever version you updated to

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(hope that makes sense)

cloud drum
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Yes it does

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Thank you

pastel briar
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your welcome

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this will let us see if the issue still persists even with factory settings

cloud drum
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Yes yes

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It still overclock when k reset

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I

stoic island
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Um

sudden turret
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pull battery

stoic island
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So CPU is at higher clocks for some reason..?

sudden turret
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unplug cord from psu

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press and hold powerbutton

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drains all caps

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and residue power

stoic island
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Box I thought they reset to factory defaults already

sudden turret
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making sure it was done right

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you can tell someone to pull the battery out

stoic island
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I mean like

sudden turret
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and then thats all they do.

stoic island
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Bios reset to factory defaults

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Not reset cmos

sudden turret
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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I dunno at this point.

cloud drum
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fk it

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ill reset my pc

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nuke it all

sudden turret
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lol?

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reset how

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so when you see the 4.3

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you do realize that's just the standard boost clock for that cpu right?

cloud drum
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like facotry rest my pc

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sooo

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i mean it says speed

stoic island
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That's normal boost clocks lmao

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Like on default

pastel briar
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your CPU is naturally going to boost up in certain situations

cloud drum
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oh ok

earnest olive
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@cloud drum did you set that 1.35V manually

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or is that the chip doing it itself

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1.35V is safe if the chip is doing it itself but very unsafe for a fixed voltage for oc

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on zen 2

stoic island
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@earnest olive its all default lmao

cloud drum
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it idd it self

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did

earnest olive
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ok just making sure

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saw some guy on reddit manually set his cpu to 1.54V yesterday...

stoic island
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Also @earnest olive Remember, safe voltages varies between chips

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1.325v is the average safe voltage for Ryzen.

pastel briar
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@earnest olive and im sure that guy will shorten his CPUs life depending on where that voltage is being applied to ๐Ÿ˜„

earnest olive
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I tried to reduce my cpu voltage by 50mV offset yesterday cause I heard some people got better performance from that and I already undervolted gpu

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but my cinebench score dropped by 200

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:(

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idk I heard 1.325v for zen 2 is unsafe on average

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depends on load but if you set that as a constant voltage it can cause degradation

white cove
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hello guys

sudden turret
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o/

thorny bronze
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what is the highest a i9 can be ocd to

stoic island
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there is no limit >:D

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technically you could get a 9900k to 500ghz

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maybe

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who knows

cloud drum
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i99ook

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is poo poo

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amd sihts on intel

little leaf
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@cursive wharf I told you was thinkibg of changing it to 3300x but needed to know where to cut down on

fringe wharf
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What are the differences in ram/memory companies and stuff. what makes one better besides total space

little leaf
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Latency

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Speed

fringe wharf
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How can you tell which has better?

buoyant flame
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The higher the speed the better and the lower the latency the better

fringe wharf
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Oooo ok thanks for telling me

buoyant flame
wary tundra
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my friend has a freesync monitor but he just bought a 2070 super

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will that be a issue

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because I know some freesync monitors support g sync

midnight pelican
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what monitor is it

foggy hazel
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@cloud drum i would recommend that you read some more articles with actual testing.

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also, no need for language like that here

cloud drum
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ok

little leaf
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Amd beats intel on processing like rendering because it has more cores

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And threads for the same price

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Intrl just keeps the clocks speeds the highest

midnight pelican
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yeah

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10900x?

little leaf
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In most cases having highet clock speeds is better for gaming

midnight pelican
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wtf is inte

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intel

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a 10900k and 10900x have essentially the same benchmark if not the k is better

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yet the x is double the price

little leaf
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@midnight pelican maybe better oc

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Idk because I havent looked into the nee chip benchmarks

cold sorrel
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I just hope next month I can get my hands on a monitor that doesn't cost a fortune

little leaf
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whats your budget?

midnight pelican
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@little leaf from as far as i can see the only difference is that x299 boards are better

white jungle
cloud drum
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looks good

celest fjord
foggy hazel
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that you need ram :)

celest fjord
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I have some 8gb sticks of ripjaw aegis laying around when I upgraded last time but thanks for pointing that out

little osprey
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dual core..

lyric thistle
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What's wrong with dual core?

little osprey
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well there is only 2 cores being the main issue :p

foggy hazel
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its a machine meant for doing only 1 thing

lyric thistle
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It could be for doing multiple things even, so long as the tasks are small, like media center

little osprey
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they just already get pushed pretty hard from a 4k youtube or 1080p 60 twitch stream, i would say avoid them unless absolutely necessary

cold sorrel
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I just hope we see the reasonably priced monitors come back in stock over the next month. The prices are ridiculous at the moment for things that aren't completely OOS.

little osprey
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i would hope a media center pc could do 4k 60 youtube

foggy hazel
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@little osprey that depends entirely on the software stack attached to it

little osprey
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and in a few years?

celest fjord
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The internet connection for 4k would be unreasonable this would be for streaming SD or HD and playing locally.

lyric thistle
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Not entirely unreasonable, but if you're below the average in internet speed, then you're out of luck for 4K

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Myself included

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Thanks, AT&T

celest fjord
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I live in a rural area so satelite or celluar hotspot is the only thing available.

lyric thistle
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Yeah, I'm lucky enough to have...DSL or whatever it is

little osprey
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oh, oof, makes more sense but, still.. im sure the 2200g or 3200g would be better choices though

foggy hazel
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@celest fjord have you thought about OS?

lyric thistle
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More than 50 bucks a month for 5Mbps down internet

celest fjord
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Windows 10 home should work, not too sure about any linux os and definitely not iOS

foggy hazel
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fair talk @celest fjord

little osprey
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even on an i5 quad Firefox wouldnt do 4k youtube

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chrome would though

foggy hazel
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that has more to do with the hardware implementation and the way that chrome gets to choose codecs

celest fjord
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Having 8gb of RAM has become almost necessary for most applications now a days so making sure that the OS doesn't hang up on bandwidth is more important than processing speed to me.

little osprey
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im on an old dual core now 2 threads, and i have to 480p everything 360p even

celest fjord
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ouch

little osprey
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although i am running windows 10 on it lol

cold sorrel
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We're about to leave DSL behind and upgrade to fiber optic Internet.

little osprey
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fiber is so overkill lol

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might be good for wifi connections

cold sorrel
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Our DSL is not great and seems to be getting worse over time. The plan we were offered by the new company is roughly the same price but much faster.

little osprey
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i got 200 down 20 up and its always stable as heck

celest fjord
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With 2 physical cores and 4 threads it may work better than a few older processors. The 3200g is just under $100 and the motherboard would need a BIOS update before it will work with the 2nd gen ryzen.

little osprey
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also whenever the next APUs drop they will be beast mode

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probably

celest fjord
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Very true though they will only work with the 500 series boards

little osprey
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yeah

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hopefully they aint too expensive

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b550s

foggy hazel
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@little osprey you are forgetting the rest of the stack

celest fjord
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The B550 is supposed to be the midrange boards so between $80 to $200 is what I am expecting though the smaller the board the more expensive it gets unfortunately.

foggy hazel
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there will also be a 520/30 chipset

little osprey
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oh i didnt know, interesting

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same time release?

foggy hazel
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nah

little osprey
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-_- lol

cold sorrel
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I'm probably going to get a 550 board at this time, rather than x570 like I once planned. Just got to wait for them to come out.

little osprey
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im literally gunna try and wait for ddr5, but, il probably buy after ampere

celest fjord
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Just hope MSI doesn't flub the roll out of the B550 boards like they did the X570

little osprey
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someone will make good b550s if not msi

celest fjord
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Yeah that is why I went with an ASUS board for my current build, haven't had an issue yet Knock on wood

stoic island
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They likely won't

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afterall x570 tomahawk was pretty great

pastel briar
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Yay my folding farm is running , got the GPU set up on the Dell too, oh hey I can post pics now, sweet!

celest fjord
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Nice

stoic island
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@pastel briar you folding for curecoin?

little osprey
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awsome crazy

stoic island
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or

pastel briar
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curecoin?

little osprey
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hes folding for linus obviously :p

stoic island
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It's like

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a coin for folding

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kinda like mining

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but it's a weak coin

pastel briar
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I see, and no, and I am folding as part of the EVEGA team

stoic island
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I fold for netwars with ryoku

pastel briar
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unless I can find something more profitable ๐Ÿ˜„

stoic island
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lol

pastel briar
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A Ferengi with out profit is a Ferengi with out Latium...

little osprey
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i should probably look into the whole mining stuff, im sure i could learn to set it up

celest fjord
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Deep space Nine, my dad's favorite show

pastel briar
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I like DS9 also ๐Ÿ˜„ is it sad that every computer in my house is named after a Starship? ๐Ÿ˜„

celest fjord
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Nope got to keep the dream alive

pastel briar
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hehe

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I got both Enterprises chugging numbers at the moment, need to decide on a name for the Dell

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Server 1 is Enterprise-E and the second one is Enterprise-A

celest fjord
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Voyager or Raptor?

little osprey
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do you have to claim bitcoin and stuff?

pastel briar
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not sure, I tried the BT stuff but never got very far with it

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maybe I should try and dis out my bit coin mining stuff again....but it never seemed to be profitable

celest fjord
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The only way to make mining anything profitable is to set up a renewable energy source instead of paying for electricity off the grid. The power bill makes or breaks a mining operation.

pastel briar
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hmm....perhaps, maybe I should tie my mining rigs directly into the renewable energy source I have....

celest fjord
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If the batteries can handle the draw and you have enough energy collection to cover it then I don't see why not.

pastel briar
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There Dell given Voyager, and my new Ryzen power gaming box given Defiant ๐Ÿ˜„

buoyant flame
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What renewable power source do you have @pastel briar

celest fjord
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Nice

pastel briar
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Trying to fine tune the wind power opperation

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though part of me is wanting to put solar on the roof but the cost seems a bit much (and Corona....) so I have been experimenting with building wind turbines

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small scale ones

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to see how feasible wind can be (we do at times get stupid amounts of strong wind as were about 3 miles from the coast line here in CT)

little osprey
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thats cool as heck

pastel briar
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not really, it came from being stuck at home bored with nothing to do, which is partly why I am now the (proud?) owner of three servers....

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I mean I suppose it can be cool?

little osprey
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solars cool too but, dont think that would be very effective in canada with the winter thing

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unless snow reflecting the light helps balance that out

pastel briar
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well where I live we get a metric tone of sun on a day to day basic and IIRC our solar rating is up near the double digits

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(we are more or less in the Jet streme path)

little osprey
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you would legit have the power ckmpany paying you during certain months

pastel briar
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true that is why I am thinking about doing it and letting it feed the grid

little osprey
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i dunno if they actually do that tho lol

pastel briar
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some do

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especially if your putting more into the grid then you take

celest fjord
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It is strange that the RV solar kits are standardized yet the ones for your home have so many variations.

little osprey
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if your sure youl be using them the rest of your life its worth considering

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otherwise you could buy another house lol

pastel briar
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no, but its sad there is no standardizations period.....

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hmmmm thoughts?? AMD FirePro W7000 4GB card being offered to me for $50.00 (usd)

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its a work station card...

celest fjord
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Those generally have no video out and are mainly for extra compute power. If you are doing a lot of number crunching then that would be good but I would worry that it would have been flashed or undervolted and not reset.

pastel briar
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hmm...

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it looks to have video out put ports on it

celest fjord
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Huh, it does, retails new for $299 on amazon.

pastel briar
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interesting, would I be a fool not to jump on the offer or should I look for something better?

celest fjord
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At $50 it would either have to be used or possibly something wrong with it. Would it be a bad idea to ask for proof it still works?

pastel briar
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I suppose I could, I always assume something is wrong with items I buy (but I also have the ability to fix things too) so im not entirely afraid either

celest fjord
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If you are willing to work with it then that is a great deal.

pastel briar
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well I would be shoving it into my servers and letting it loose on folding at home also

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or do you think a Quadro card would be better?

celest fjord
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I haven't seen the spec comparing the two so I can't give you a recommendation.

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The real question is if you will need special drivers for it and if you do will those driver interfere with any other graphic card in the computer.

sullen spoke
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There is the option of game ready or studio drivers for nvidia cards

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Idk how multiple gpus in one system work tho

celest fjord
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So it might be better to match brands

pastel briar
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well the servers are using what ever intel/ibm GPU (on board) they have, that is why im considering these things as work station cards are supposidly better at crunching numbers

celest fjord
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So it wouldn't matter as long as you have a video out

sullen spoke
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I donโ€™t really think matching brands matter too much

buoyant flame
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Ya ^

pastel briar
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well I sent a message asking for more info on the item so we will see where that goes

#

worst case I can shuck it in the Dell and test it out and make sure it works properly

modern shadow
#

what are some cheap 140mm rgb/argb fans? perferably 2-pack or above

buoyant flame
#

upHere makes some decent cheap fans

pastel briar
#

Asiahorse were some that I had used on one of my previous builds (pre RGB build with only Yellow LEDs) they seemed to work quite well and were actually quiet

buoyant flame
#

Box recommended some recently too, lemme see if I can find it

compact hill
#

@modern shadow I recently bought the coolermaster rf120m 5 pack for like 40 bucks, its 4pin rgb

#

They look nice

sudden turret
#

yup that's them

buoyant flame
#

Ok cool they look nice ๐Ÿ‘Œ

modern shadow
#

is there a picture of them in a case?

silk estuary
#

Question, does the nzxt kraken x63 come with pre applied thermal paste?

buoyant flame
#

Box has one, when he comes back around I'm sure he'll share

cloud drum
#

They should

#

Celty

cyan plaza
#

are monitors that cost around $150 even worth it ๐Ÿค”

sacred obsidian
#

depends on what you need it for

#

my last monitor i just needed 1080 at 60hz. spent 100. was great.

cyan plaza
#

opps forgot the first link ๐Ÿ˜…

buoyant flame
sacred obsidian
#

that second one is bad tho imo

cyan plaza
#

can't find any other monitor close to what i want besides these 2

sacred obsidian
#

8-5 ms response time, doesnt say what the refresh rate is, and $250?

#

oh its 60hz

#

what are you wanting out of a monitor?

cold sorrel
#

Because most decent priced monitors are OOS right now

cyan plaza
#

I want
VESA Compatibility - Mountable
HDMI / displayport
at lest 1920 x 1080

sacred obsidian
#

oh i didnt even think about that

#

ok

#

lemme check

#

you're in the US right?

cyan plaza
#

yap

digital pecan
#

can anyone reccomend a good gaming rig for my friend that's under 1400$

#

not pre built

cold sorrel
#

1\qaa\

cold sorrel
#

Sorry for the random string of letters. Kitty apparently decided to say hello while I was afk

cyan plaza
#

thanks i like that one better

sacred obsidian
#

np ๐Ÿ™‚

chilly belfry
#

Iโ€™m a beginner and I need some help, where do I find the gtx 1650 super drivers ?

#

Sorry if itโ€™s a stupid question

stoic island
buoyant flame
#

Yep

#

I was just looking for that link

cold sorrel
#

Eh, I wouldn't call that a particularly stupid question. It can be hard to track down where a particular company stashes their drivers on their website.

stoic island
#

and as always, there are no stupid questions, only silly answers :)
Naed#3611

buoyant flame
#

I love that quote

stoic island
#

ikr

buoyant flame
#

I've personally been told it about 10 times ROFLEgg

stoic island
#

heh

#

I just ask away so

buoyant flame
#

ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

little osprey
#

-+

chilly belfry
#

Thanks for the help ๐Ÿ™‚

glossy crown
#

Poggers

buoyant flame
potent prairie
#

For 1440p gaming. Needs to handle heavily modded Skyrim at good fps

stoic island
#

@potent prairie list is private

potent prairie
#

Whoops

#

Fixed

stoic island
#

I assume you got that CPU for a reason?

potent prairie
#

Was looking at an i7, this wasn't too much more
So no

stoic island
#

@potent prairie I'd suggest a Team MP34 1tb SSD instead

#

So are you gaming with it or do you have workloads that use 12 cores

potent prairie
#

Gaming

stoic island
#

I'd rather put less money into the CPU and more into the GPU then.

#

Like a 3700x 2080 super

#

That ram seems expensive... Iirc trident z neo 32gb 3600mhz cl16 kits were 180$

potent prairie
#

Ok, will look into that. Is the mp34 good spec wise? I chose the rocket b/c they had benches almost the same as the 970 Evo plus

stoic island
#

@potent prairie actually, the sabrent rocket is fine, but the sabrent rocket q was slower and less endurance

#

But sabrent rocket (normal) pricing was off iirc

potent prairie
#

I definitely price check ram. This isn't an urgent deal, so I'll do some waiting for deals
Ok thx

cursive wharf
#

esp when you get such a cheap mobo

stoic island
#

MP34 spec wise look very good

#

@potent prairie thing is, the kit I linked is cheaper and faster soooo

#

ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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Still got rgb too

potent prairie
#

Aight. Will look at that, thx. I thought I had bought the better version of the sabrent rocket for my rig. Whoops.

cursive wharf
stoic island
#

Nooo hei the d15 though ๐Ÿ˜ญ

potent prairie
#

Mini atx tho

#

She wants a compact build

stoic island
#

Tuf b450m pro
Whenever that goes back in stock

#

@cursive wharf honestly that graphics card sketches me out, you know how good the cooling on that is..?

The 2 fans seems really spaced out, making it look like the fans might not be blowing directly into the GPU...

#

Or not cooling the vram or something

potent prairie
#

Might try for an evga card again, for the warranty

cursive wharf
#

Fan doesnt have to be over GPU die, barely makes a difference

#

Just needs an actually decent cooler and fans

stoic island
#

Also small fans

#

So

cursive wharf
stoic island
#

I mean the EVGA 2080 super ko is only like 20$ more

#

I'd get that :p

#

Even if just for the warrenty

#

That heatsink seems like a thin boi

potent prairie
#

I just like evga
Not amazing asthetics, but good service

stoic island
#

That's if you're into that kinda stuff

potent prairie
#

Is a super worth it over a normal 2080

stoic island
#

I personally don't like hybrid GPU.

#

Yes super is worth it new

cursive wharf
#

Well, airflow on that AIO would be much better due to the air not hitting and bouncing off the L changed fins

#

despite total volume being somewhat close

#

idk fin density

potent prairie
#

Any better mini atx mobos?

stoic island
#

Asus tuf b450m pro

#

Whenever it's in stock

potent prairie
#

I know this sounds stupid, but I don't really like their asthetics and would pay more for a non tuf branded one

stoic island
#

It's just a really really good board for the price

#

Usually idgaf about aesthetics :p

cursive wharf
#

You'd be probs looking at quite a bit more money for same/better quality

potent prairie
#

Alright, will consider it. Any other options tho?

stoic island
#

mATX boards... Ehm

#

Steel legend should be a decent mATX board right Hei?

cursive wharf
#

for mATX

stoic island
#

OOS and expensive eh

potent prairie
#

Yeah. But better chipset

cursive wharf
#

Everything else has things like worse sound chip, less NVMe M2 slots, etc

stoic island
#

X570i aorus pro should be good but also expensive and OOS

cursive wharf
#

While it is better, not really $90 better

stoic island
#

itx boards usually fits in mATX cases.

potent prairie
#

I don't think the case I was thinking supports it, but I will check

cursive wharf
#

But also have a hard time supporting dual M2 with M2_2 slot being well cooled, lacks any PCIe expansion, and only two RAM slots

potent prairie
#

It has mini itx support

stoic island
#

Fair enough

potent prairie
#

Alright. Thx for the tips.

wide sparrow
#

@scenic heath specs ?

scenic heath
#

i5 9th gen
RTX 2070 Super Founders edition
500GB SSD
3tb hard drive
x4 Corsair QL120mm RGB Fans
ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E Gaming
Corsair Liquid cooling H100i v2 RGB
Corsair Vengeance 16GB Ram
Phantexs Evolv X

#

instead of i9-9900k im waitin for 10th gen

potent prairie
#

Be aware 10th gen is another socket

#

So you'd need a new mobo

still roostBOT
#
OVERRRR 9000#1052 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

scenic heath
#

Oh your right

#

I said the S word

#

smh

#

yea might stick with 9900k

potent prairie
#

If you do, best buy has been selling them off and on for like $480 new on eBay

scenic heath
#

oh thanks for the tip!

#

Save me a lot

#

and I need it rn lol

potent prairie
#

Np. I think might have actually got mine for like $450

scenic heath
#

thats actually amazing

#

wow theres one for $410

#

I cant afford it rn tho wow

potent prairie
#

Really? That's cheap tho

scenic heath
#

yea but the seller on ebay has 0

#

for his sellin or buying

#

thing

potent prairie
#

Best buy went off sale, they are at 515 now
Iffy. But you do have buyer protection

#

If it's new, I'd still buy it and check the factory seals

scenic heath
#

yea

#

but I might jus bite the bullet and get it off best buy

#

Ihave a friend who works there so he might get a good discount off of it

potent prairie
#

Yeah. If you can't afford it now, keep an eye on it, might go back down

scenic heath
#

Yea

potent prairie
#

Good luck :)

scenic heath
#

I will

#

Apprecaite it a lot man!

potent prairie
#

Np

stone token
#

watch the 10th gen be like a millionm dollars

cyan plaza
#

soo.. yes or no Some AMD X370 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

scenic heath
#

I think 10th gen was gonna be like close to 600+

cursive wharf
#

10th gen is going to be about $75 or so more then AMD

#

bulk buy of 1k units is like $40 - 50 more then AMD's single unit pricing. So single unit pricing of Intel would be $20 - $30 more then bulk buy per unit

stone token
#

how long until new gpu's come out?

lyric thistle
#

Never

tepid basalt
#

August for Nvi and Nov or Dec for AMD

#

source: my dream

cloud drum
#

google that mobo and see the latest version

little osprey
#

Can someone lmk how it is

sullen spoke
#

I think you should get at least one ssd

little osprey
#

Yeah Ik Iโ€™m missing that

#

Besides that what you think

#

All that includes taxes

sullen spoke
#

memory looks like out of stock, could be more expensive

harsh bolt
#

It looks like you are going for a small build so it should work. But I agree. Atleast a 500gb ssd

sullen spoke
#

and idk much about thermaltake psus

little osprey
harsh bolt
#

I think he just went with that one for the size and price

#

If you could go up to 700$ price then that could change a lot

sullen spoke
#

๐Ÿ˜‹

little osprey
#

Doubt it

harsh bolt
#

For that price range with a 3rd gen ryzen. It seems a solid build. Just for gaming ?

little osprey
#

Yeah

#

Ima preorder the 3300

harsh bolt
#

Yeah than what you have is all you need. I went overkill on my pc. Mostly used for gaming lol

little osprey
#

What are your specs

cloud drum
#

@sullen spoke can you give sauce for your pfp

sullen spoke
#

huh

harsh bolt
#

Cpu:Ryzen 9 3900x
Gpu:Asus rtx 2080
Psu:Corsair rm 850x
Ram:32gb corsair rgb vengeance pro
Motherbord:msi mpg x570 gaming edge pro

cloud drum
#

wheres it from

harsh bolt
#

Custom built

sullen spoke
#

it's from a album cover?

harsh bolt
#

Storage is 1 tb hdd and 1tb ssd

static bison
#

im broke and don't have a pc i suck

harsh bolt
#

A little saving here and there is always a good plan. You dont need a 1000$ pc to play games

sudden turret
#

cool

cloud drum
ancient crown
#

I am getting a new pc
I picked out all the parts but still confused about which motherboard to get
can Anyone help?

stoic island
#

Just ask your question

ancient crown
#

idk which motherboard to get

#

idk the difference between them which is better than the other..

stoic island
#

Like

#

What are your parts, and what motherboards are you looking at.

ancient crown
#

9700k ,2060 strix,16gb ram,
the motherboard i was looking at is the asus rog strix b365-f

stoic island
#

Ick Intel

#

Chipsets are wacky

#

B365 might be the locked one, all I know is z390 is good

sullen spoke
#

z370 is older but can work

ancient crown
#

The chipset is better?

sullen spoke
#

z390 is better

#

Mr1 is saying b365 might be locked meaning can't overclock on it

#

you have a 9700k which is an unlocked chip, can be overclocked. If you want to overclock in the future it would be better

ancient crown
#

ohh ok

buoyant flame
#

Intel board and chips are so weird

ancient crown
#

So any z390 board ?

#

@buoyant flame u prefer ryzen chips?

buoyant flame
#

At the moment yes

sullen spoke
#

many people do

#

as of right now they are better value

buoyant flame
#

And soon to be better performance ๐Ÿ˜‰

ancient crown
#

what about intel's 10th gen processors

buoyant flame
#

What about them? They're basically just the 9th gen but with way more power consumption

#

Nothing special imo

sullen spoke
#

they look interesting, but power is going to turn your house into an oven

ancient crown
#

oof

#

ok well good talk guys

#

thanks 4 the help

buoyant flame
#

Sure thing

untold trail
#

anyone know any decent cases with built in cooling?

#

ATX

#

or a brand that i can check out thats mid price

#

like 60-100

stoic island
#

wdym built in cooling

#

almost all cases come with fans installed

digital pecan
#

yeah

lyric thistle
#

as opposed to built in heating obviously

buoyant flame
#

Lmao

feral fog
#

I am looking to upgrade ram in my 2018 mac mini I7 Processor. Will the following memory be compatible? CORSAIR Vengeance 64GB (2 x 32GB) 260-Pin DDR4 SO-DIMM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300) Laptop Memory Model CMSX64GX4M2A2666C18

warm nova
harsh bolt
#

I would think size would be the biggest issue

untold trail
#

well ive heard the phanteks p300 without the mesh has subpar cooling

#

so are there any cases or brands that are better in that regard, so when i need more cooling it can facilitate that

buoyant flame
#

Td500mesh

stoic island
#

you beat me to it

buoyant flame
#

Ik ๐Ÿ˜‚

untold trail
#

whats the price like?

#

nvm ill just check

#

wow only 100

still roostBOT
#
Hero#7119 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

untold trail
#

oops my b forgot about no cursing

#

whats argb?

digital pecan
#

adressable rgb, its more customizable

warm nova
#

the corsair ram should fit what you need. it is unbufferred non parity 2666 mhz ram. I would maybe do a bit of research and see if you can find another person that has swapped the ram with that kit, or check with corsair and see if they have any kind of qvl for that particular mini.

#

apple loves to keep secrets and will never put out lists for upgrades

digital pecan
untold trail
#

so the phanteks p350x and the Td500mesh are the same price

#

but im not sure what would make one better than the other

stoic island
#

TD 500 mesh ftw

#

@untold trail p350x only comes with 1 fan, td500 mesh comes with at 3

untold trail
#

cool cool

#

and it has mesh right? doesnt that help with airflow or is it aestheitc

#

*aesthetic

stoic island
#

mesh is in the name

untold trail
#

it has some bad reviews too im not sure what to make of them

stoic island
#

td500 without mesh is only meh

#

td500 with mesh is good

untold trail
#

cool

#

sucks that it only becomes available after the 15th

#

gotta wait even longer

#

is this a widely accepted case? like its considered good?

wide sparrow
#

Td500gone

#

In the US idk where to find that case

wide sparrow
#

For the pass 3 months

#

Look its still on preorder lol

#

Amazon might delay that case again

#

It was suppose to come out in February

#

I'm not even sure if they gived my money back

untold trail
#

aww that really sucks

#

i really hope it actually comes back on the 15th

#

this makes me hesitant to pre order

#

can u cancel pre orders?

sudden turret
#

I don't see why not?

buoyant flame
#

I think it'll probably be fine

untold trail
#

hopefully

wide sparrow
#

Yeah you can

little osprey
#

What parts would be compatible as well as a cheap starter gaming pc

drowsy fractal
#

sooo... I got a MSI 1660 Ventus XS OC... what should I upgrade to next? my CPU is a Ryzen 3600.

#

or what would be an appropriate step up?

fast dust
#

Why do you need to upgrade?

#

Your system looks like a very nice system

stoic island
#

Next step would be GPU.

#

(for the future)

drowsy fractal
#

yeah gpu...

#

should I wait for the reset?

stoic island
#

..?

#

@drowsy fractal what reset?

#

@little osprey depends on budget

little osprey
#

So what if it's like a 800 or more budget

stoic island
#

I'll make a list.

little osprey
#

Thank you

stoic island
#

Like do you intend to use it for a few years or like upgrade within a few months kinda "starter PC"

little osprey
#

Well I want it to be able to run sea of theives, rdr2 and stuff plus I'll be getting some cash in soon so probably the upgrade route

stoic island
#

Because there's always an option for an iGPU build, then buying like a RTX 2070 super (500$) in like a month

#

Actually I'll make lists for both options

little osprey
#

Oh ok

stoic island
#

Lots of things are out of stock right now, so I might put placeholder items for whenever things go back in stock

little osprey
#

So when I was researching honestly 16gb ram is what I need plus a good cooling system but since I'm building and not buying I'll have to go with fans instead of liquid cooling

fast dust
#

Air cooling is usually a better choice in a PC of this budget

#

Air cooling FTW!

stoic island
#

Liquid cooling isn't very worth it even at higher budets

#

Unless you're spending like 3000$

drowsy fractal
#

you wont need liquid cooling unless you're going to be fully loading

little osprey
#

It's more effective at Cooling but it gets up there

stoic island
#

Barely more effective

fast dust
#

Yep unless you have a massive budget are you're doing some heavy overclocking

stoic island
#

Like 1 or 2 c difference

little osprey
#

Yeah

#

I can probably have over a 3000 dollar budget if I wait in the long run

stoic island
#

Hei you know about when 3300x comes out?

cursive wharf
#

Mostly just noise difference on GPU and looks

#

And no

stoic island
#

Don't really want to make a 3400g list

#

But

#

Nothing good on the lower end rn

fast dust
#

3300x gonna be epiccc

little osprey
#

What does it change from the older models

cursive wharf
#

Could put in 3300x part with manual $120 price

stoic island
#

But I don't want to make people wait for months for it to release lol

little osprey
#

Oop

stoic island
#

Eh lots of reviewers got samples so I'd say prob within a month

#

I'll make manual

cursive wharf
#

3300x is the first (timing wise rather then stack wise) Zen2 low end chip is what changed. All lower end 3000 were Zen/Zen(+)

#

3000g is Zen, 3200g is Zen+, 3400g is Zen+

foggy hazel
#

in the stack, the 3300x is the second

stoic island
#

Put emphesis on the rest of the list more than the GPU since expecting a budget for a GPU upgrade.

#

Mobo is kinda placeholder

little osprey
#

Ah

#

Ok

#

Thanks

stoic island
#

Oh right do you need Monitor keyboard mouse or headset?

#

In the list

little osprey
#

I do

#

I want to buy a curve screen moniter or multiple ones that can screenshare

#

As for the keyboard and mouse I'm probably gonna buy a Logitech mouse and just an led keyboard

#

Headphones I've had good experience with hyper x so maybe those

drowsy fractal
#

lol I tried sharing my build guide but im still "grey"

#

^

stoic island
#

grey mann

#

Mag24c is good

little leaf
#

@stoic island for us I'm pretty sure 2 weeks right for the 3300x

cloud drum
fast dust
stoic island
#

its better tho

little leaf
#

ye the actually enabled hyperthreading on all processors

fast dust
#

I mean I know but

#

Thatโ€™s not the point

cloud drum
#

Why won't my image show

little leaf
#

dup

fast dust
#

It shows for me

foggy hazel
cloud drum
#

I see it now

meager relic
#

hey naed, if you arent busy again

#

how are you today?

foggy hazel
#

ask away

#

good, eating dinner.

meager relic
#

good

fast dust
#

Wow wait Naed what country are you in

foggy hazel
#

what do you need help with @meager relic

meager relic
#

nothing

foggy hazel
#

@fast dust denmark

meager relic
#

i just wanted to know how you are doing

fast dust
#

Niceeeeee

stoic island
#

3300x gonna be so neat

fast dust
#

For sure

stoic island
#

Wait til GN does another LN2 OC stream

digital pecan
#

@cloud drum whats your psu?

cloud drum
#

The case is not the same on the list

#

It's just a price holder

stoic island
#

Wack

#

Focus gold

cloud drum
#

It was the only one I could get

#

Everything is sold out

stoic island
#

It's good

#

But the part list looks mismatched

cloud drum
#

Mismatched?

meager relic
#

serious answer please, how hard would it be for me to spray all the parts that i can safely spray on my pc with a paint that reacts to uv light /black light

cloud drum
#

Idk about that

stoic island
#

@meager relic honestly I'd take a look at LTT's mineral oil PC build thing, since they used something to protect the parts, I forgot what.

meager relic
#

i know the mobo and the ram for example cannot be sprayed

little leaf
#

@cloud drum why would you go with the 120mm rad

meager relic
#

but the plastic covering over the graphic card? the psu? the chasis itself.

little leaf
#

when there are 240 aios for less

meager relic
#

the fans?

cloud drum
#

What

meager relic
#

case *

#

not chasis

stoic island
#

@meager relic well, you can def take the GPU shroud off, paint it, clean it, then install it back on

cloud drum
#

I got it for 70$

little leaf
#

ah ok I thought you were buying it for 90

stoic island
#

Case most likely

cloud drum
#

Discount

stoic island
#

The rest

#

Prob not without adding protection

meager relic
#

im setting up my room to be overexposed with black light during certaintimes of the day.

#

and i want psychadelic colors

#

im weird ok.

stoic island
#

You do your beer things

meager relic
#

lol

silk estuary
#

Bro

stoic island
#

yes

zenith glacier
#

if my gpu used too much memory, do it mean my cpu is bottleneck???

silk estuary
#

My aio is 10 stops away catarms

cloud drum
#

Memory?

#

Vram no

cursive wharf
#

@meager relic You can do mobo if careful. Need to spray a protective coating around it, just making sure that sockets dont get hit as this coating is an insulator, making sockets unable to communicate to anything inside it

little osprey
#

1300 bucks for a 3600 and 2060 build? Worse prices than Canada :p

gentle hamlet
#

Does anyone have any build for around $900 that has 32gb of DDR4 ram?

#

Like a part list.

stoic island
#

why though

#

@gentle hamlet why

gentle hamlet
#

I wanna build one

stoic island
#

why 32gb

harsh bolt
#

32gb is overkill easpically for gaming. 16gb is all you need for any games today.

gentle hamlet
#

Okie

stoic island
#

@gentle hamlet What gave you the idea that you need 32gb of ram?

gentle hamlet
#

I dont remeber

#

I also wanna play rust.

harsh bolt
#

I play rust. I have 32 but 16 was good enough

#

My base right now lol

stoic island
harsh bolt
#

@gentle hamlet I have had a few buddies try with 8gb of ram and have a hard time but once they went to 16gb. They were 100% perfect.

gentle hamlet
#

Okay, ty

harsh bolt
#

Your welcome.

#

And if you ever wanna play rust. Hit me up

gentle hamlet
#

NOt with my current pc

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Lol

stoic island
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@harsh bolt since you play rust, I got a question for you
how the heck do you use the bow

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I can use any other weapon in the game

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just not the bow

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Crossy goes fine for me

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but I cant hit anyone with a bow

harsh bolt
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There's a good bow aim train server. Spent probably about 100 hours on it . I have 2.2k hours in rust

stoic island
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heh I only got like 300 or so

harsh bolt
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I have a couple youtube videos for it. Base builds/electric . No pvp videos though.

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But this isnt the channel for that. You can inbox me If you want

stoic island
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k

little osprey
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can 3000 series be here yet so i can buy a computer

stoic island
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no

little osprey
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:(

mellow basalt
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How much space does rust take?

harsh bolt
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I can give you specific numbers when I get on my pc. Give me a sec. Just got home from work

little osprey
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its crazy how many ppl selling old pc's have closeups up their windows key in pics

agile holly
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Hello. I'm a newbie trying to figure out my first Gaming PC Build. Can anyone help me out with a good component build list. I'm trying to buy everything from the same place like newegg.com. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated (budget is around 1200, fan cooling, RGB)

harsh bolt
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Yes I can

high coyote
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i have 2k hours on rust lmao

harsh bolt
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Same here

forest lake
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So I have a question. I have a Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard. My PSU is EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G3, 220-G3-1000-X1, 80+ GOLD, 1000W Fully Modular, EVGA ECO Mode with New HDB Fan. So I am wiring the PSU up and I came across the 8-pin EATX12V and 4-pin EATX12. My PSU cables has 2 of the 4 pin plugs. (I can add photos) Do I plug all 3 in? Or do I just do the 4-pin and one of the 8 pins?

harsh bolt
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I said 2.2k earlier but I looked. Its actually 2.1k

little osprey
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fx 6100 vs i5 2500

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fx half the cost

stoic island
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14gb it looks like

sudden turret
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mr1 help powerserg build the all mighty 1,200 pc ๐Ÿ™‚

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I'm on break.

stoic island
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okai

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@sudden turret you know if they building now or later

sudden turret
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uh

stoic island
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bc OOS stuffz

sudden turret
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dunno but they want it all from newegg

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@agile holly can you elaborate ๐Ÿ™‚

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new to disc so maybe they'll come back..

stoic island
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kk

sudden turret
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aye..

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๐Ÿ˜„

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and yeah this OOS is getting out of hand ๐Ÿ˜ 

silk estuary
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It's ridiculous

agile holly
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Thank @sudden turret & @stoic island . I'm looking to buy soon within the next couple of weeks. I just wanted to buy everything from the same place if possible. Newegg is an option unless you guys can recommend another reputable place to order from

silk estuary
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I spent basically all my free time in the past week spamming refresh to get my parts lmao

stoic island
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Newegg is great, just some things are getting out of stock quite often, might need to do one of the stock alert thingys

sudden turret
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doable but limited on what you can get your hands on.

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what is your main focus? what game? or editing software?

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wanna crush the newbs.

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or highlight powerpoints ๐Ÿ˜›

agile holly
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I see. Looking for easy build features too since it's my first one ๐Ÿ˜„

sudden turret
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it's all easy!

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I mean.

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ish.

stoic island
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as long as you dont go crazy form factor it's easy

sudden turret
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it's quite literally plug and play

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usually..

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with 1,200 do you need eeeeeeeeeeverything? or 1,200 just on the computer itself.

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everything being monitor, keyboard, mouse, desk.

agile holly
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Cool, I read that compatibility is an issue with components so I want to make sure that the build list has components that are compatible of course ๐Ÿ™‚

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Just the tower

sudden turret
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right on.

agile holly
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with all of the components inside

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I have a monitor and keyboard separately

sudden turret
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wifi?

agile holly
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yes please

sudden turret
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please pull around to the second window.

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mr1 will have your order.

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sorry I had to

foggy hazel
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(just dont acccept the milkshake, he really needs some training on that part of it)

harsh bolt
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i sent you a build @agile holly

sudden turret
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The machine is broken anyways.

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oof I gotta start dinner, kids are nagging

stoic island
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yea okay so

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all 2070 supers from Newegg are out of stock

sudden turret
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

stoic island
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Theres only a 2070 non-super in stock

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I set my preferences to Newegg only

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Corona making things hard

silver bolt
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the noisiest of the bunch

stoic island
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time to take a dip into unknown PSUs

harsh bolt
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oof

stoic island
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its alright just had to check how good corsair CV was again

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I just know CX well, CV not so much

fast dust
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CV just okay right?

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Not as good as CX?

harsh bolt
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i think i paid 150 for my corsair rm 850x

stoic island
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ouch barracuda 2tb is oos

fast dust
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Whaaaaat?!

silver bolt
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wow really?

stoic island
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@fast dust CV 650w is same tier as lower end cx, the rest are bad

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OOS on newegg

fast dust
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Oh cool

stoic island
fast dust
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I got my barracuda 2TB from Walmart

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But Newegg only for this build ik

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Ouch

stoic island
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might be time for a 1tb ssd only build maybe

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that'll last you more than long enough til corona rolls over

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@agile holly Is it alright that everything BUT one part was on newegg?

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or you'll have to wait for it to come back into stock

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god damn it the mobo is oos too...

agile holly
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Sure no problem at all

stoic island
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unless