I just wanted to test it and its just
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-RTX-2070-vs-GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti
#building-and-recc-chat
stoic island
useless
out of date
golden bronze
@stoic island Okay, I am not computer savvy really so that's mainly the reason I've used it
stoic island
This is actually useful
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
potent prairie
Okie, another question. How does one cut softline tubing?
stoic island
I believe scissors are fine
potent prairie
Cool. Thx
latent storm
how do i know which way my fan blows air?
potent prairie
The grill side is the side it blows out of
granite imp
Wire it up and feel it?
pastel briar
@edgy cape nope, won't matter, you could order from the moon if you wish, its personal preference and what ever is best price wise for you
edgy cape
latent storm
ok and one more question, the screws included with the fans don’t seem to fit in the fan holes, any reason why?
potent prairie
Damn. Just realized I need to buy another $60 in fittings
I think they are just like that..I had to force my ll120 fan screws
little osprey
Alright so I'm looking to make a build with a 2070 super, 3600, a black and white case, and possibly an AIO but I read a lot of people having issues on their AIOs with leaking and whatnot. Any reccommendations? The build will be used mostly for gaming and streaming and possibly rendering music and developing.
1300 is the Max and I have peripherals.
sudden turret
I have never had a mishap with AIO leaking
so don't read to hard onto those.
2070super is a solid card, along with the 3600cpu
sacred obsidian
if you dont plan to OC, you can get an air cooler. if you do plan to OC, you can get a better air cooler and it will function just as well. AIOs are for looks, but yeah closed loops rarely have issues.
sudden turret
you seem to be headed in the right direction
little osprey
I've done quite of bit of research, I dont wanna go in half-cheeked. I'm coming from a msi gs63vr I had as a student which was nice to travel with but had serious thermal issues.
I'll probably end up OCing for the heck of it but yeah im not keen on having dust everywhere (that said I'm also not comfortable enough to install a complete custom loop)
potent prairie
Make sure you get a case with removable filters then
I made that mistake my first order
little osprey
Any specific suggestions for a mid ATX?
sacred obsidian
also make sure to do positive air pressure. more fans in than out, and with every in fan having a filter.it will help a lot with dust
potent prairie
I like the rog Helios but it's pricey. The 680x from Corsair looks sweet if you can get a deal
little osprey
Oof yeah I'll watch for that, seems like to stay in budget I cant spend more than 100-120ish on a case
sacred obsidian
I got this when it was 60 but i dont think its that price anywhere right now 🤷♂️
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077232WC2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
potent prairie
See if you can find a warehouse deal
little osprey
The 680x looks to be 260$ at the cheapest
potent prairie
Yeah. Pricey :/
little osprey
Yeah and the Cullinan MX just doesn't seem to be available
latent storm
how to find fan screw
sullen spoke
screw usually come with case
viral ore
sudden turret
fan extention cable
latent storm
alright cool thanks
midnight pelican
croz
copper crane
Putting together a "new" build with components from a prebuilt.
cpu - ryzen 5 3600x (ordered)
mobo - tomahawk max b450 (ordered)
gpu - rtx 2060 super (have)
ram - venegeance pro 16g (have)
storage - 970 evo M2 & Kingston A400 (have)
PSU - thermaltake smart 700W (have)
case - lian li dynamic XL (ordered)
fans - corsair QL120's (ordered)
did i miss anything ....
midnight pelican
cooling?
copper crane
cpu comes with a stock cooler
tranquil dust
bc its the x
copper crane
AIO was something i was looking at however its a 50/50 on what people recommend.
if i can keep the temps down with the stock unit ... can maybe use those funds in the near future to upgrade GPU , etc
midnight pelican
yeah
with that gpu and if yiur not overclocking that much you should be fine on temps without an aio
copper crane
alot has changed since my last build ... 20+yrs ago
bold rune
how do i know how much power supply i need
buoyant flame
If you put your components in pcpp it'll tell you the wattage and then just get one that's higher than it
That doesnt mean they're all good tho
If you need a recommendation let us know
hasty sleet
I have a dell xps 8900 and have come to the conclusion that i want to upgrade my gpu to a 2070 super and a 750 watt power supply. I know it sounds like overkill but they will be transplanted later into a entirely new build once i get the money. However I have a i7 6700 4 core cpu. Would the bottle necking be bad?
buoyant flame
Well it would be usable and most likely get better performance than what you have currently. Also just a note. Some dell motherboards use proprietary connections that a average psu doesn't have. It might be worth it to research if this upgrade is possible on that board.
hasty sleet
U mean other than 24 pin?
little osprey
@copper crane for how much ?
buoyant flame
Yes. Sometimes there's weird cpu power
copper crane
@little osprey tough to say ... because of the money I "wasted" on the prebuilt
little osprey
How much lol
hasty sleet
I do see a 4 pin connection labeled "ATX CPU" do modern modular psus have these?
midnight pelican
nzxt only good prebuild company tbh
hasty sleet
@buoyant flame
buoyant flame
They should
copper crane
when all this covid pandemic started happening i knew i needed something to keep my "busy" ... so bought it from a local shop that they had built as a "demo".
with the prebuilt and the parts i have bought since 2400cdn
buoyant flame
It'll probably have a 8 pin that can be separated to a 4 pin
hasty sleet
oh so its just a matter of buying an adapter?
I checked all the psu outputs going to the motherboard its only the 24 pin and the 4 pin
buoyant flame
I dont honestly know, I would say yes but I cant be 100% sure and I don't want to tell you the wrong thing.
Maybe @cursive wharf has some insight
analog forge
when the new intel cpu should be invalid to buy ?
pastel briar
I do see a 4 pin connection labeled "ATX CPU" do modern modular psus have these?
@hasty sleet
most if not all modern PSUs will have the 4 pin, some even will have a 4+4 for newer CPUS that require an 8 pin connector, in fact I can't think of a PSU that wouldn't and If one IS out there just do your self a favor and avoid it as most likely it is a Chinese bargain bin unit...
little osprey
I gotta make a decision lol. Just built the Goku themed PC with a NZXT H710i, but thinking about getting the LIAN LI O11 Dynamic XL with a front distro.
pastel briar
if I put work into something like that I would at least get enjoyment out of it before getting rid of it but that is just me
little osprey
true, but things I do want to change, I'd love to sell it but idk and start over lol. I love to build pcs
pastel briar
I do to, but I also enjoy my work
little osprey
I do
pastel briar
its honestly up to you as you feel like doing
unreal fossil
Okay so I’m here asking for help. This is kinda a last resort. This build has an rtx 2070 super Windforce, a Ryzen 7 3700x with a Corsair AIO, 650 watt psu. It’s basically acting like it’s not even plugged in. No fans, no LEDs nothing.
sullen spoke
oh yikes
unreal fossil
Yeah I don’t really know what to do
sullen spoke
check power cables to mobo, cpu, etc. if you haven't already
make sure psu switch is on
unreal fossil
Yeah I’ve reseated just about everything except the CPU because it’s a huge pain taking the cooler off
And the psu switch is on
sullen spoke
have you check the connection for the power button
unreal fossil
Yeah I’ve taken it off and put it back a few times
I can send some pictures if you guys want
sullen spoke
sure
sullen spoke
hola
oblique comet
Hola que tal?
unreal fossil
sullen spoke
this is buildchat where people ask about building pc
unreal fossil
oblique comet
So I was actually wondering if you guys could help me pick a build
hasty sleet
OK so final plan is to transplant my dell xps 8900 guts into a lian li o11 dynamic but swapping the gpu for the 2070 super and the psu for a corsair rm750 watt. I plan on eventually replacing the motherboard and cpu with a ryzen 7 3700x and a asrock steel legend x570 with a corsair gen 4 pcie 500 gb stick later down the line. My issue is that the case doesnt have fans. Wat are the cheapest set of fans i can buy as temporaries before i get nice rgb ones
unreal fossil
I’m not sure what else to take pictures if
oblique comet
That is exactly what I want
unreal fossil
@hasty sleet probably some cheap ones off eBay. It depends how long you want them for
hasty sleet
6 months at most
sullen spoke
if there is no life to it at all, my guess would be mobo or psu
hasty sleet
I just need 6 cheap ass fans that can blow no frills
unreal fossil
Yeah you could probably get away with come cheap eBay fans
hasty sleet
ok anyone know of a way i can get some for free?
unreal fossil
Alright I’m gonna triple check the connections on the psu
sullen spoke
when did the pc stop working
unreal fossil
I’m building it today. All the parts are brand new
sullen spoke
free fans? probably ask around your area and see if anyone has anything
oh so this is first time putting together
unreal fossil
I’ve built close to 10 computers before and I’ve never seen anything like this
sullen spoke
i see
unreal fossil
Yeah but I’ve built many computers before
hasty sleet
I dont really know anyone who builds computer near me and i live in north jersey anyone maybe live near here that knows a group or something?
sullen spoke
If you happen to have another psu or mobo you can try that to see if problem is one of those
might be easier to see if you put it together outside case
unreal fossil
I have my own personal mobo and psu. I’m building it for someone
I’ll try to take it out and build it outside the case
sullen spoke
ye try that first
unreal fossil
Then if it doesn’t work should I contact the manufacturer?
sullen spoke
you could try swapping psu first, or try putting those parts, cpu gpu ram, on your mobo and psu
if you are comfortable with that
oblique comet
So my question is, I am building a PC around Intel core i3-9100F I'm not an overclocker or anything and just happen to be in a budget, now that budget has expanded and I happened to stumble across a really good deal on Ryzen 5 2600X
sullen spoke
I dont really know anyone who builds computer near me and i live in north jersey anyone maybe live near here that knows a group or something?
@hasty sleet you could try fb marketplace or ebay if someone has something
oblique comet
I can basically build a PC with Ryzen for about 335$ or go really simple with Intel for 290$
sullen spoke
amd is better budget
hasty sleet
I think the new ryzen 3 3100x is like 99 bucks and stronger than an older gen i7 in some cases
buoyant flame
Not entirely true, the 3300x is 120 and on par in some cases
oblique comet
I mean to upgrade somewhat soon for either 10th gen processor or AMD but I believe in both cases I have to change the motherboard so I don't really mind that
buoyant flame
The 3100 trails by a little bit
oblique comet
Well I'm buying this tomorrow, I think Ryzen 3300X is not on sale yet
hasty sleet
ohhhh
buoyant flame
2600x for 120 is not that bad, especially cuz prices have been wack lately
oblique comet
My thoughts exactly.. I mean I was somewhat happy about mi i3-9100F build because it was really cheap. Building a gaming computer for under 300$ (I'm saving on GPU and drives because I already have them) was just crazy to begin with.
Then as I said getting a mobo-processor combo with the X version of AMD 2600 for the same price is what got me thinking if I should go for Intel or get AMD
My budget is 500-600 but I'm also gonna try and get a good monitor for this build
Then going to upgrade GPU and later get a new grn CPU
So what you guys think
latent storm
i have 3 more parts to get and two of the three are out of stock
oblique comet
:(
silk estuary
Ok I've decided
I'm gonna go with the 2060S for now, but upgrade when I have money for 4 monitors
It makes sense monetary wise, and it's available (for once)
oblique comet
Are you sure
I mean, unless that's near future probably by the time you get four monitors there will be better or cheaper GPU's
zinc bridge
So i just purchased a 2070 super and overlooked the 650w power supply recommendation. I have a 550w at the moment. Would my psu still be able to handle that or is it best to just let 2070 sit untill i can get a high psu? I bought the Zotac MIni 2070 Super and PSU is Corair CX seriers 550 watt 80+Bronze
midnight pelican
if your current cpu is not too power hungry it should be ok however you may still want to get that 650ww
zinc bridge
is there a way to find out how much power im using on my pc? sorry im a newbie when it comes to PC stuff im new lol
midnight pelican
which cpu do you have?
zinc bridge
i7 8700. not K
tepid basalt
sounds like you'll probably be fine
midnight pelican
you ll probably be fine for now
tepid basalt
that i7 draws 150w at best iirc
midnight pelican
and a 2070 will draw 250ww at most
cursive wharf
8700 takes max of 120w, 2070S takes max of 230w, rest of system would be 70w
420w total peak
zinc bridge
ok so i should be good but best to invest in a higher PSU for the future?
midnight pelican
yeah
cursive wharf
Get no more then 650w as it's a waste of money. Also tends to be the trap where people try to get a poor 750w+ PSU that's the same price as good 550w/650w. Overall getting a worse PSU because one focused on wattage too much in the same price bracket
silk estuary
@oblique comet if that happens then I'll get a 2080ti
upper verge
Hello all
Just wanted to say to everyone i have everything ordered except for one part
Which is my Motherboard
I got my GPU and PSU yesterday ordered. Which both should be here 14th
midnight pelican
does anyone have any experince with xpg
floral walrus
Hey all. I completed my build 2 weeks ago and then decided to upgrade my old radeon r9 380 to a radeon rx 5700. My frames have gone up by a huge margin, with Escape From Tarkov being the main game I expected a boost in. The problem is, after a few minutes of playing, around 5-20 minutes or so, my screen goes black and my computer restarts. I dont know why this is happening. All of my parts are new and of high quality in my opinion.
Any thoughts?
tepid basalt
what's your psu?
floral walrus
Ryzen 5 3600
tepid basalt
psu
shy dome
my motherboard smoked like it was hanging out with cheech and chong, thank the pc heavens my other hardware survived the ordeal.
tepid basalt
I haven't heard about that psu brand before
but when your pc just auto restart under high load without even a bsod then I'd blame the psu
floral walrus
I didnt have a problem until I got my 5700.
Even with the r9 380 I was able to play for a few hours without problems.
I haven't heard about that psu brand before
@tepid basalt sorry. The brand is Raidmax
velvet hill
Anyone on here who can help me to make sure all this stuff works together
PM me
upper verge
Hey can i borrow everyone for just one question real quick?
I know it states that my 5500 XT will require atleast 450w. But a Ryzen 5 doesnt need a whole ton does it? Cause i got a 650w psu
Im hoping that will be enough.. PCPartPicker says its compatible
tepid basalt
why not 1660s?
little leaf
@upper verge we know but were making a recommendation
And yes the 650w will work as long as it is a trust worthy psu
exotic aspen
placid zenith
@velvet hill - I got turned on to https://pcpartpicker.com/ recently from this site, and I've found it to be VERY helpful. Thanks Newegg Crowd!
cursive wharf
@floral walrus probably group regulated PSU. Which old hardware doesn't have issues with but new does. So high workload just messes everything up
pastel briar
@floral walrus how cheap are we talking about? Chinese bargain basement cheap? Or a quality brand was on sale? Never heard of “Cobra” goes to research brand
sudden turret
@weary gulch are those the TT quads?
little osprey
Best build for 1500 aud?
upper verge
@upper verge we know but were making a recommendation
@little leaf the one i chose is a Thermaltake
Incase you wanted to know
cold sorrel
I've got what is possibly a dumb question. Is there like some way I could let a new computer link to my laptop to copy all my files? (Save the OS, I know I need to install that fresh.)
pastel briar
@cold sorrel yes, you can use a device similar to this to do what you are asking, however you might be better off using a USB drive or USB external HDD for the same task if all your doing is copying files from one PC to another
@cold sorrel also no question is dumb unless it goes unasked, your learning so please ask away, I don't mind helping
cold sorrel
... I could have sworn my portable hard drive was 1 TB. I'm trying to see if I can purge enough crap off it to use. (There's some old rarely needed files on it I do want to keep.) Otherwise I might have to invest in another to be able to transfer everything I want
timber plover
Good afternoon. For those of you who use Gigabyte Z390 mobos with 3 slots for M.2 NVME SSD. What configuration of M.2 NVME you use, and why?
pastel briar
I don't have that exact board but I do have boards that use M.2, generally I use one OS/Boot, one for my games, and if applicable one for storing non critical files (anything critical gets backed up to my NAS and if super critical goes also to offsite back up)
oblique comet
Hello guys
Would you get an i3-9100F or a AMD 2600X assuming you get both for the same price
deep skiff
3 1 0 0 a n d 3 3 0 0 x
pastel briar
Yay new toy!
little leaf
granite imp
Can we get less feet in the pic?
pastel briar
lul
cloud drum
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/660913187801006130/708354838999859310/IMG_20200508_122909.jpg
will a 6+2 connector workt for a 8pin conector
buoyant flame
yes
cloud drum
lastly theres a 6pin and 8pin connectors are both required to be used?
cloud drum
gpu
buoyant flame
All the power connecters should be plugged in on the gpu
cloud drum
oh ok
cold sorrel
Oh boy, card I definitely can't afford.
granite imp
@cloud drum how much did you pay for that if you don’t mind me asking?
I got my 2060 super from microcenter, an EVGA, and it was $420
But mine only has 2 fans, no rgb
meager relic
Hey naed,. What do you think about this idea
granite imp
So what’s the difference when the graphics card has the same chip but one has 3 fans and the other has 2. Does it only come down to cooling? Or is there a reason for the extra fan?
sudden turret
yes, cooling
stoic island
Meh
granite imp
What temp is too hot for a gpu to be at?
fringe wharf
is the Corsair SPEC-06 ATX Mid Tower Case a good case?
stoic island
Idk I'm too lazy to check :p
granite imp
Is it easy to put an aftermarket cooler on your gpu?
granite imp
I’ve got an EVGA 2060 super. 2 fans. Would that even be necessary?
cloud drum
more mem?
stoic island
Not necessary to make a cooler upgrade
cloud drum
idk i got it cuz it was the best brand
granite imp
Thanks
stoic island
Dual fans are all you need anyways
granite imp
Tifa, a week after I built my pc I found 2070 supers with cosmetic defects from evga direct with warranty for less than what I paid for my 2060 super
granite imp
I’m adding extra fans to my case as well, so we’ll see if that keeps the gpu any cooler too
sullen spoke
iron basin
Hello friends! I’m looking to get a SSD bf for a Lenovo Flex 4 1470 any suggestions? I’m very new to replacing hardware outside of a chip of ram here and there. What else will I need for this project? Any advice is welcome!
-bf
iron basin
Nice, thank you!
Any recommendations on SSD for this model? I’m having a hard time figuring out which is compatible.
pastel briar
@iron basin I have had good luck with Adata, Samsung, Hynex, Intels SSD
as for tools a basic screw driver generally (depending on how the laptop is put together) is all you need
foggy hazel
that is your source of teardown manuals etc if you need anything beyond the video above
oblique comet
So my build ended up being a Ryzen 5 2600X with ripjaws 16gb 3600 ram rx 580 8gb and a 650w power supply all within a b450 motherboard
granite imp
Almost my build I just did
2600x, Corsair 16gb 3200, 2060 super, 650w gold
Asus b450-f Rog strip
Strix*
floral walrus
@floral walrus how cheap are we talking about? Chinese bargain basement cheap? Or a quality brand was on sale? Never heard of “Cobra” goes to research brand
@pastel briar it's a 90 dollar psu that was on sale for 60 because of a random sale.
stoic island
thats
quite different lol
everything but the CPU maybe PSU was different
yea prob a bad PSU then
a non-rated Raidmax unit
stoic island
Well, it's not one of the units LTT rated soooo
The only other raidmax units they rated :
foggy hazel
what do you need that much juice for?
stoic island
why 850w
floral walrus
I raising the dead in my house and gaming. Multitasking.
stoic island
w u t
mighty sapphire
Quick question. I got this gpu stand that lights up but I have no idea where to plug it in at! It doesn’t seem to fit anywhere!
stoic island
You have a 3600 + 5700...
@mighty sapphire send a pic
@floral walrus even 450w would be enough for your build
like
what in your pc is drawing so much power
mighty sapphire
stoic island
Might be molex
mighty sapphire
Connector: 5v 3pin + molex 4pin
stoic island
no idea why its 2/4 pins(?)
mighty sapphire
That’s what it says the connections are
foggy hazel
the "part" that is closest to your thumb is the puzzling part for me
that "lip" looks weird
mighty sapphire
foggy hazel
okay, nothing to worry about and yes, that is 100% molex
lyric thistle
moilex
mighty sapphire
Where does that hook up to?
lyric thistle
woo
foggy hazel
the angle on the first made it seem like there was something blocking it
sudden turret
where is it coming from
foggy hazel
it hooks up to a cable from your PSU
sudden turret
well what is it attached to I should say
stoic island
maybe things that look somewhat like these
sudden turret
oh nm I read up
Quick question. I got this gpu stand that lights up but I have no idea where to plug it in at! It doesn’t seem to fit anywhere!
@mighty sapphire plugs into your PSU molex
as naed said
foggy hazel
wooo, you are doing all kinds of good today Box, even things we cant get regular users to do
you know, reading up etc :)
sudden turret
-_-
stoic island
yay good job box
sudden turret
SHUDUDUDUP.
foggy hazel
:D
lyric thistle
Haha
mighty sapphire
Okay cool! So a cable that came with my psu should be able to hook it up I’m guessing
stoic island
Yea.
sudden turret
correcto
foggy hazel
aye, there will most likely be at least 1 cable with molex on it
there might also be one with a combination of sata and molex on it
sudden turret
that molex you showed is a male/female version
stoic island
Naed, do those usually plug into the "sata" port on the psu or like the "peripherals" port?
just out of curiosity
foggy hazel
depends on the setup and the psu
stoic island
fair enough.
mighty sapphire
Perfect!! Thank you guys!! I found it
sudden turret
woo
stoic island
I just have no idea what the "peripherals" port is for
mighty sapphire
Hooking it up now lol I definitely found the cord and I’ll take a picture as soon as it’s up!
foggy hazel
mentally you can label it as "random power source" @stoic island
sudden turret
Manic its a stand, that holds the GPU from sagging
lyric thistle
Ah
stoic island
lol ok
lyric thistle
So it has RGB lighting on it in this case?
sudden turret
so rgb all the things I guess.
yo kids, we heard you liked rgb for your rgb, so here is some rgb.
mighty sapphire
The one I got has bloodhound etched into it and rgb!
mighty sapphire
sudden turret
That's pretty slick.
mighty sapphire
lyric thistle
Neat
mighty sapphire
Only 30$ too. Comes with a remote and stuff but I don’t have a battery for it yet lol
mighty sapphire
I’m not sure how to do a video lol but it changes colors to it’s pretty awesome!
lyric thistle
Get a 5.25" bay drawer to put it in box
mighty sapphire
Thank you guys again!! You’re always sooo helpful! I’m so glad I decided to build a pc instead of getting prebuilt lol
foggy hazel
no, thank you, for sticking with it :)
sudden turret
It's more rewarding making something than bought outright.
now that you have the experience, it'll be easier to upgrade cause you know how it all went together.
those are already a thing.
yep
I think NZXT?
probably already done.
ask Naed
he is the RGB expert.
mighty sapphire
It definitely is! I can’t wait to build another one lol and upgrade when it comes time!
foggy hazel
may you live in interesting times Box!
cursive wharf
custom watercooling is like $260 for a RGB CPU/GPU copper loop with 360mm/240mm rads
not that expensive if you know where to look
stoic island
Mainstream stuff are pretty damn expensive
though ekwb has some cpu kits for like ~300$
cursive wharf
ekwb just be extremely overpriced
stoic island
?
for example?
I don't look much into custom watercooling but
ekwb seems good nuff
cursive wharf
$260 for a RGB CPU/GPU copper loop with 360mm/240mm rads right here.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32899782878.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5cf562285UYWPR
glhf trying to find something like that for less then $500 on ek
last I checked an EK RGB GPU block was $200
and EK's $270 kit doesnt come with another 240mm rad either
stoic island
damn
sudden turret
you're still paying for name brands
cursive wharf
So that's $470 + 240mm rad price
sudden turret
just like with anything.
cursive wharf
- fittings
stoic island
sadly their Aluminum series is going EOL
because that was like 300 for a full loop
CPU+GPU
sudden turret
thats what I just pulled out of my build Mr1.
cursive wharf
I also heard that fluid gaming series had issues with blocks not being tightened enough
sudden turret
being tightened?
cursive wharf
easy fix, but still can cause leaks on first leak test which can be annoying to deal with
stoic island
huh
sudden turret
Guess I've been lucky then
stoic island
but yea if I go custom water I'll prob get bykski
sudden turret
never had a leak
stoic island
but
cursive wharf
Another good company would be Barrow
stoic island
air ftw
sudden turret
and I switched tubing, style, placement multiple times
before I was happyy with it
cursive wharf
tho I usually see Bykski be better priced
sudden turret
not sure what these other people be doing lol
stoic island
until custom watercooling is cheaper than Noctua mainstream cooler, or I become rich asf, I'm sticking with air.
sudden turret
I paid 170 for the fluidgaming 240a
cursive wharf
I mean, you do need to consider GPU too
sudden turret
then another 60 for a 120rad+fan
stoic island
I don't care about my GPU cooling beyond stock so
unless future GPUs have heat issues
¯_(ツ)_/¯
cursive wharf
so like two CPU coolers and some GPU modding would be like $190 or smth
I like my quiet GPU
It's nice and quiet
stoic island
like 70$
sudden turret
but works 😄
cursive wharf
eh, I guess
potent prairie
Bad idea. You need to cool your CPU if you want it to survive
You could move the fan/radiator
foggy hazel
why do you want to move it?
stoic island
they dont like how the tubes look
foggy hazel
soft bends only
sudden turret
they still pivet at the base of pump(cpu)
cloud drum
Ohh really
modern shadow
I trust th CX more
lyric thistle
CX CX CX
pastel briar
Servers are finally mounted....uuug
stoic island
@edgy cape it's okay, not great, but if it's like 60$, go for it.
cursive wharf
TXM gold is better same then CX tho (edited for correct info)
But yeah, TXM is usually quite overpriced so unless ~$70 USD then dont get it
pastel briar
I think I got seriously bored lol
My new toy mounted…cleaned up the network rack some, lengthened it as well, ordered my 4u case has well
pastel briar
still have some wire management to do and pull off, but I am stuck waiting for the actual cords (power) to get here from Amazon, so I can have shorter length cords that will hopefully let me run them better
lyric thistle
Same list from #general-chat ?
pastel briar
its not a trash, but I wouldn't say Nahhhh either....thought I am hesitent about raidmax only due to never using them my self so I can't say anything about quality....
lyric thistle
^^
lyric thistle
Is Team ramm bad?
chilly belfry
Thermaltake Smart PSU are trash ?
lyric thistle
I think so 
chilly belfry
Why
granite imp
dang, i didn't realize the series of psu mattered too.
got an RM650 80+ gold corsair. is that good? I'm clueless
eager chasm
it doesn't have the best airflow, but for those parts it wont matter a whole lot
little osprey
Is that case worth or is there a better cheaper one
glass swift
PC Build is coming along nicely, I should have all parts by next week wednesday!
Ryzen 5 (3600?), want some LED but i dont wanna spend an arm and a leg.. meant to send this to build pics, lol. but i guess i need some help on LED
modern shadow
@little osprey for airflow a p300a mesh with a few cheap fans instead, but if you want aesthetics, go for the h510
glass swift
PS
Is that case worth or is there a better cheaper one
@little osprey
I bought a really nice case with 2 120mm fans in it, ill provide link if u want
glass swift
glass swift
this is the one that @foggy hazel recommended for my build, tons of room, tons of cross compatibility,
modern shadow
Yer
little osprey
It’s better than the h510 ?
glass swift
according to the old masters, yes
stoic island
h510 bad airflow >:D
glass swift
good airflow, the back is wide open too basically
from that website link i just posted....
modern shadow
Also 2 5.25 bays for no specific reasons
glass swift
you may have to install your power supply upside down, technically, for the fan to spin inside the case and create more airflow, insteadof just down
lyric thistle
Nice
glass swift
just what the box recommended
little osprey
glass swift
what rig are you building @little osprey are you on PCPARTPICKER
lmao, you read my mind
little osprey
lol
glass swift
(Warning!Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.
)
little osprey
Um what’s that
glass swift
thats on your incompatibility warning, you may have to flash it
little osprey
Lol
glass swift
with an older componant
saw that on youtube a while back, you have to have them ship you one, i heard
lyric thistle
5.25" bays are good for whatever if you want to do that kinda thing
glass swift
i mean, what i have,
modern shadow
Pro 4?
little osprey
Which one is it
potent prairie
I'm not a fan of their software
glass swift
thats what i have for my MB,
they're backstocked elsewhere but AMZ had 1 that i bought, newegg seems to be in stock for just under $79
little osprey
That motherboard is upgrade friendly as well ?
glass swift
and MSI is a company you can trust
yes., tons and tons of ports
sata usb etc. what kind of upgrade you mean
also, btw, there's ram on sale on newegg, or at least there was, that was RGB
little osprey
Like gpu and procceser
stoic island
I like MSI software :p
little osprey
I don’t really know that much about PCs just want something good to start off with
glass swift
msi software is sexy. so you mean like the processor chip you'd buy,
separate?
cpu?
stoic island
That ssd is not good
little osprey
Yeah around
glass swift
ok
stoic island
glass swift
are you set on a 2tb internal hard drive? you could shave cost by just not doing that
how many gigs does a man ned
need
little osprey
I’m not gonna be downloading like crazy
lyric thistle
Gigs
lyric thistle
Over least 9000
glass swift
^
stoic island
2tb hdd is pretty standard :p
glass swift
so way less than 2 TB, what editing? photo, video,
glass swift
kk
see and those builds with the 3300x arent even accounting for their price, you're closer to 700 with that or even 3600x
- windows 10 key if you need that... 800
stoic island
120$ is 3300x
glass swift
172 for 3600
stoic island
win10 key is ~5$
stoic island
Ebay :D
stoic island
lots of people here including me can vouch for ebay keys
glass swift
how in the hell, lol
stoic island
even if one fails, its like 5$
little osprey
Did yalll get the list
stoic island
I accidentally bought 2 keys, both works, checked both of them, both were retail keys.
no mass activation keys or any of that
glass swift
nice
this would even be ok >> https://www.newegg.com/blue-wd10ezex-1tb/p/N82E16822236339?Item=N82E16822236339
to replace your 22 dollar one with lol
stoic island
hmm I gotta swap out that mobo
shy dome
@sudden turret do you have a minute?
stoic island
oh boy
little osprey
Don’t really wasn’t waste that much since this is just starting
dusty gale
thoughts on this sytem? (I already own the graphics card but Im thinking of rebuilding my whole pc. Also I didn't add any drive storage)
bruh
I cant send links
dusty gale
how do I get out of this role
stoic island
What do you already have?
I'm probably going to make a new list for you, as intel is not good for value at all right now
dusty gale
I have that graphics card, 32 gb of naked ram which I might sell because I want the rgb, a 600w thermaltake psu, and an Asus Prime board. Also i5-9900f
glass swift
side convo, best RGB controller to go w/ MSi MB? I dont want corsair cuz i dont wanna pay the corsair tax, lol
dusty gale
I built it a while back when the parts were more expensive
stoic island
9400f?
stoic island
What exact mobo
glass swift
MSI ProSeries AMD Ryzen 1st and 2ND Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 D-Sub DVI HDMI Micro-ATX Motherboard (B450M PRO-M2 Max) (B450MPM2MAX)
stoic island
Might as well keep your mobo gabe
dusty gale
Asus Prime B360M-A
glass swift
(sorry not for me)
stoic island
I don't see a need to upgrade mobo
dusty gale
Im looking to do gaming at good speeds and graphics (I can already run gta at ultra 1080p 60fps, however I want to stream as well and move to 4k res)
dusty gale
no budget atm but probably around 1100 in parts
cause its still a little into the future
maybe wintertime
stoic island
so can you send a list with your current build?
dusty gale
all the parts i currently have? yeah
just gimme a minute
Im gonna write it in a document and paste it one min
stoic island
pcpp if possible
bold rune
I just got a new pc and the internet isnt working
Says im connected but
doesnt work
i can tell all the drived arent up to date either
but how can i get latest drives update if i dont have internet
dusty gale
Intel Core i5-9400f
Geforce RTX 2060 by Gigabyte, 6g.
2 Sticks of Crucial 288-pin dimm
Asus Prime B360M-A mobo
ThermalTake Smart 600w (I gotta check the other stats on it)
A regular air cooler from intel (I built this when I was a beginner I didn't really research the cooler)
it cost me about 1100 to build a year and a half ago
need any more specs?
dusty gale
yes
vital geyser
if ur trying to stream maby get new cpu
stoic island
eh you'll upgrade it anyways I'll just slap in some placeholder
you're not upgrading storage correct
dusty gale
Drive space or ram?
stoic island
Drive space
dusty gale
I have a Hard Drive and then an SSD that I have windows on
I might swap out the hard drive for something else
stoic island
just put in what you have into this list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vdQqyk
dusty gale
im not entirely sure what the storage I got is
is there a way to check without opening up my case?
stoic island
lemme see if hwinfo does it
dusty gale
wait I think I can do it in task manager
lyric thistle
Disk Management too?
stoic island
I wasnt sure if task manager told you the name of the drive
lmao
@cursive wharf found some other boards with m.2_2 pcie only
Gabe's current build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M73tBZ
@dusty gale so 1100$ of parts to upgrade
dusty gale
probably yeah
If it goes a little over thats fine, just something around there
I just wanna make it so I can go a longer time without upgrading and I want my cosmetics to be improved
stoic island
Okay so you definitely need a graphics card upgrade
dusty gale
my 2060?
I didnt think it was too bad
I mean it runs mostly everything at the best settings without any lag
dusty gale
Oh yeah true
Well
true
but dont add that to the total
Id make it a seperate investment
stoic island
..?
dusty gale
I have a friend whos swapping his 2070 super out for something different and I could get that cheaper
stoic island
kk...
dusty gale
but I dont wanna add it to the total because Idk how much hed charge for it
modern shadow
@stoic island can you send me the link to the mobo spreadsheet?
So i can bookmark it
stoic island
modern shadow
Thx
stoic island
@dusty gale everything that isn't marked as purchased are my suggested upgrades.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/42dmHB
What I suggest with the new SSD is for you to use like AOMEI to transfer your OS onto the new SSD, since it is faster, and use that for programs you use often.
dusty gale
thats what I wanted to do
stoic island
and then the 240gb ssd you can use for whatever, after you transfer everything and clean it out and format it, maybe use it for games you play often
¯_(ツ)_/¯
dusty gale
does the case have room for extra fans/water cooling?
stoic island
yea, most cases do.
stoic island
I would suggest against it
cursive wharf
@stoic island interesting. Tho not to surprising I didnt know before, cuz I barely pay attention to Intel
stoic island
Not much performance difference, a lot more expensive
stoic island
@cursive wharf I dont pay attention to intel at all until I was looking it up for this build lmao
dusty gale
I'd have to look into it
yeah I just like intel cause ive been using it for so many years
dusty gale
I think I had one build with an AMD processor and I wasnt used to it at all
stoic island
AMD is the king for now.
dusty gale
well I mean hey its never not a possibility
stoic island
prob 95% of new builds here are AMD builds
dusty gale
I just gotta research AMD and some different motherboards
stoic island
intel mobos and chipsets are so wacky... different generations take different sockets, and on the same sockets theres different chipsets that support different generations...
dusty gale
thats the thing
cause like certain mobos need Bios updates and whatnot to use 8th and 8th gen intel chips
wide sparrow
Yeah putting intel into your new build is unwise atm
stoic island
AMD is just. Socket AM4. And everything excluding the 4th gen can be put in any mobo with a bios update
cursive wharf
tbh it could very well just be "not supported" rather then "not work at all"
I was too lazy to look at any of the news yet tho
stoic island
4th gen?
cursive wharf
yee
stoic island
They said it was about bios sizes so it's very possible mobo manufactures could put out bios updates
¯_(ツ)_/¯
thats what I got out of it at least
cursive wharf
At launch you heard a lot about Zen supporting ECC mem, no mobos support it but they do "support" it
dusty gale
I know nothing about AMD, whats the spectrum like? Like whats considered the "good side" Like i7s and up
cursive wharf
R3 3300x is literally i7 7700k more or less
dusty gale
I mean like whats a good reccomendation for a chip
cursive wharf
Depends on budget
dusty gale
I want like the equivalent of a i7 9th gen roughly
stoic island
So basically, AMD chips are 4 digits, such as
3700x.
First digit is generation, 3rd gen. Second digit depends, the higher it is, usually the more cores it has.
cursive wharf
I would advised against going i7 and getting a better GPU
stoic island
They're getting a 2070s from a friend
dusty gale
Im really thinking about switching to ryzen
dusty gale
Like I was before this conversation
cause ive heard its a bit cheaper and better at the same time
1100 isnt for the whole build
Hei
stoic island
Honestly you could get a completely new Ryzen build without GPU for 1100
dusty gale
I have a pc Im just doing a big upgrade\
cursive wharf
yeah basically
Surprising that it keeps getting in stock tho
cursive wharf
I would've thought that if it was on low stockage this in/out stock stuff would be done by now
and it'd just be 100% OOS
stoic island
Something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z8f9Qq
Add in whatever graphics card you get
very solid pc
god damn intel stuff was expensive
9700k is 8c8t and like 60$ more expensive than 3700x
cursive wharf
Making a few small changes
dusty gale
The ryzen 7 3700x which is supposedly about a i9 9900k
stoic island
kk go ahead hei
@cursive wharf Ram RGB was requested, and mobo is placeholder
Also, 32gb was for aftereffects work
cursive wharf
Could just get RGB fans/strips tho
stoic island
¯_(ツ)_/¯
cursive wharf
and it'd allow for fancier lightshows
dusty gale
yeah prob rgb fans
dusty gale
cause if i went with intel Id go with a rog strix like z390-f board but if I go ryzen
a tomahalk of some kid
stoic island
moar rgb
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QCjp4n
cursive wharf
dusty gale
wow same time
dusty gale
dude I just realized how good amd is lmfao
its a lot cheaper
but like about the same stats
and I dont have to be as weary of my motherboard selection as long as I pick the amd fitted socket
stoic island
Basically
cursive wharf
There is still quality differences tho in mobos
dusty gale
seems like it
stoic island
mp34 is actually a fine drive it seems
cursive wharf
Ye, think mp34 is fairly new
dusty gale
and my buddy is building a pc he would probably pick it up
stoic island
cursive wharf
still no filter on that mobo tho
stoic island
@cursive wharf any idea why it has such high TBW compared to a80 and others?
dusty gale
whats tbw?
stoic island
It has close TBW endurance to mp510, which has a lot of overprovisioning
dusty gale
total band width? lmao
cursive wharf
nope. But I feel like TBW is more of an advertising "lie" thing. So idk, probs just cheesed the system with calcing it
stoic island
terabyte write
I like using it to quickly compare endurance
but its 500tbw vs like 1500
dusty gale
ok Im confused, whats the difference between ssd and m.2 sata?
cursive wharf
Dont know much of what they mean in "jedec standard" for TBW. But a note is a note
stoic island
Fair enough
cursive wharf
@dusty gale M2 SATA SSD is kinda just meh. It's the same as a 2.5" SATA SSD for usually more money
stoic island
My m.2 sata sucked
cursive wharf
The connector/form factor is different. But the protocol is the same. So no perf can be changed
dusty gale
I mean is there any good reason to have one over just having 2 ssd drives?
like one m.2 and one ssd vs 2 ssd
stoic island
As in m.2 sata + 2.5in sata vs 2x2.5in sata?
cursive wharf
Tho do note, there is M2 NVMe. Which has a different protocol then SATA and is much faster
stoic island
The only differences are the differences in the drives
there are good 2.5in drives, there are bad ones
there are good m.2 SATA drives, there are bad m.2 SATA drives
Yea, NVMe is much faster, like 3000mb/s compared to 500mb/s of SATA
dusty gale
are they on pcpp?
cursive wharf
in sequential speeds
stoic island
"M.2" is just the name of the slot. Speeds differ depending on the protocol and the specific drive.
Here is where nvme is when you're looking in pcpp
dusty gale
this is just a list im working on, is the storage a decent pick? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/crdhk6
stoic island
p1 is decent but you can do better
dusty gale
alright
dusty gale
I added a tb of team mp34
stoic island
kk
dusty gale
what was that case called
stoic island
Coolermaster TD500 mesh?
still roostBOT
gabe#0242 has been warned
dusty gale
bruh
stoic island
lol
rapid scroll
lol
dusty gale
the rog strix helios is cool but im not spending $312 on a case
stoic island
lol
dusty gale
I said the slang word for devils lettuce apparently its a bad word
dusty gale
the fractal case
stoic island
Fractal case dont got no rgb and you wanted rgb so td500 mesh is better for da rgb
dusty gale
good to know
rapid scroll
should i spend the extra money on a AIO cooler or should i just go with air?
rapid scroll
my budget is like 1500
stoic island
if you can spend like 4000$ total, why the hell not have a custom loop
yea no
better to get more performance with air
rapid scroll
yeah
stoic island
Air vs Water has like a tiny bit of difference in performance
dusty gale
Custom loops are icky
stoic island
water just looks nicer
dusty gale
they require maintenance
stoic island
but much more expensive
dusty gale
like more than usual
stoic island
ehh people want that look lmao
dusty gale
Im too lazy to constantly take care of a water system
stoic island
people who spend enough for custom loop prepare for having to clean out the loop and maintaining it every year or so
rapid scroll
yeah
dusty gale
like a regular cooler/radiator sure but a whole tube system forget about it
stoic island
I think the term you're looking for is an AIO (all-in-one)
dusty gale
yeah thats what I meant
any other good reccomendations for cases?
Plus I would be getting a bit of rgb from custom fans/liquidcooler/ram
oblique comet
Guys, Would you go budget with an i3 9100F just to get a gaming monitor with it, and then upgrade afterwards
or, Would you get a Ryzen 5 3600X and get gaming monitor afterwards...
stoic island
Coolermaster H500
oblique comet
Would like to know since new gen is coming up next month
stoic island
@oblique comet Ryzen 5 3600 non-x :P
stoic island
3600x is barely any better and more expensive
oblique comet
Just that the X means I can OC with one click, im no overclocker I know nothing about it
this would be my first ryzen
oblique comet
first AMD actually
stoic island
H500m is expensive
@dusty gale H500 is good
with no suffix
from Coolermaster
Usually for ~115$
oblique comet
Im pairing all up with a RX 580
stoic island
I really like the CM H500 :p
dusty gale
I like the H500m more just my opinion
oblique comet
or if you have any suggestions for a 400$ build, no GPU, no storage needed
dusty gale
but theyre both decent cases
stoic island
I like it too, but expensive
H500 actually makes more sense for my build, and I was looking at it.
still roostBOT
gabe#0242 has been warned
rapid scroll
@oblique comet do you need a cpu?
stoic island
like come on
oblique comet
@oblique comet do you need a cpu?
@rapid scroll Yes, im making a new computer, just reusing old SSD, HDD and GPU.
stoic island
106$
oblique comet
I mind upgrading afterwards as well at some point
stoic island
h500m is like 2x the price rn so sadly nah
rapid scroll
@oblique comet what the budget for the cpu?
stoic island
@dusty gale so, what do you think about the H500 no suffix
oblique comet
@oblique comet what the budget for the cpu?
@rapid scroll I have about 400-500$ for CPU, RAM, MOBO and PSU.. as I have to ship everything to my country
stoic island
What country?
oblique comet
I have someone on Houston getting the parts for me and hes shipping them to Venezuela
dusty gale
you have a middle man?
why not just ship them yourself (idk how shipping works over there)
stoic island
Shipping is wack
oblique comet
@oblique comet I recommend a ryzen 1600 af
@rapid scroll this can only be found at 150$
stoic island
yea its OOS for like 2 weeks now
oblique comet
the price changed then
@rapid scroll This is launch price, a lot of stores bought it and it is sitting around 150 everywhere.. OOS for biggest sellers
I tried and did some digging..
rapid scroll
ah
oblique comet
I was gonna get i5-9400F but then I thought I could put 20$ more for Ryzen 5-3600 or downgrade to i3-9100F to get a monitor as well and upgrade later this year to 10th gen
dusty gale
that cpu is like $150
sand kayak
if i upgrade mobo, gpu and cpu, do i have to start a brand new system or is dere a way for me to keep my data in my drives
oblique comet
i3 is 75$
sand kayak
i3 9100f is
oblique comet
yea
sand kayak
@oblique comet ryzen 3 3300x is coming out and its almost as strong as the i7 7700k according to linus tech tips but i3 9100f is an absolute good deal i have it and based in the data from youtube
i3 9100f isnt that big of a gap away from i5 9400f like a few fps for gamings and the price is good imo
oblique comet
But when is Ryzen 3 3300X coming out, about the time 10gen is coming out, right?
pastel briar
generally some time near or around the same time frame
oblique comet
that would be about 2months without pc
plus the month it may take the items to get to my country
pastel briar
what country are you in.....?
oblique comet
Venezuela
oblique comet
by that time i3-10 gen which might be about the same as 3300X would be out even tho i'd be considering upgrade to i5 of course, and in both cases i'd need to change CPU and MOBO
neon condor
Does anyone know how I can sync my GPU with corsair Icue
I know about the Asus AURA software but it never works for me.
I also think the Corsair Icue interferes with it.
floral walrus
Back again. My new computer is still having problems when I play games like tarkov and star citizen. My frames are great in tarkov, around 70-100 depending on map, after a bit of time, the screen shuts off and my computer does a really quick reboot that makes me sign in again an start up whatever I had opened previously. Some people on here suggested it was my psu. I was using a raidmax before. I switched it out for an older evga 500w psu I had from before, and the problems continued. I deleted and redownloaded my gpu drivers using the amd radeon software and the problem persisted. My cpu is not overheating and the fan is flush. Everything is properly installed. This happened once before with my old xfx 380 when I was playing rust, but never happened on tarkov and star citizen. Once I began to use my radeon rx 5700, these problems started. Is this a major gpu problem that requires a new unit, or is there something I can do?
I would send my build using pc part picker, but I cant send links.
little leaf
looking for the cheapest possible build to play cod looking for a friend
@floral walrus dm it to me I can paste it in for you
oblique comet
looking for the cheapest possible build to play cod looking for a friend
@little leaf I think you could get the build I was saying earlier.. with the i3 9100F
floral walrus
Thx
cursive wharf
@floral walrus Bad PSU. iirc your other PSU was bad as well. A good suggestion is to get an actually decent PSU that isnt group regulated and has decent all round perf
floral walrus
What do you recommend? The evga psu was one I used since 2016 on my old build.
And is there anything else that would cause a reboot besides a crummy psu?
pastel briar
@floral walrus we recommend any PSU that is not a Chinese bargain bin IED waiting to happen
here is the Tier list, generally any thing from tier 3 or higher (Tier S - Tier 3) is acceptable, however keep in mind Tier 3 is usually pushing it and really is more your in a bind and need something useable and safe as quickly as you can get and low cost
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/
And this is FYI why you are better off running away from a Chinese bargain bin IED (See attached pictures for Exhibits A and B)