#building-and-recc-chat
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@mint knot you been playing around with your ram?
Reason: Bad word usage
yes and no
no need for that language
i ran verifier and it fungled my pc
PG13 is this servers moto
sorry was bout to rage
@mint knot congrats, then you have only yourself to pat on the back for it
kernel_mode_heap_corruption <- normally ram or driver related
it works but i wonder if resetting the bios and reintalling windows would work
to prevent bsod
reinstalling windows should do the trick
unless you have a bongled piece of hardware
Omega, why were you messing with the Driver Verifier anyway?
i tried to do a clean install but it wouldnt let me delte the c drive files
i forgot lol
What was the issue you had to make you want to use the driver verifier to fix it?
You forgot?
it might have been when i was playing around with the ripsahw ram taht was stuck at 2133
You booted from a flash drive and attempted to install windows which wouldn't let you wipe the C drive?
i did not boot from a flash drive
@mint knot for a clean install: unplug all the other drives you might have, boot from the usb stick. (and if so desired, delete the partitions on the drive). Then install windows
@mint knot so ... what you are saying is, from inside of windows you tried to delete the C: drive?
He's just saying unplug anything you don't want to get accidentally deleted.
but the chdk coomand showed the drive is ok
that is very similar to trying to fell the tree you are currently sitting in.
sometimes when i add a drive or something like that, pc will start cycling through the boot screen or will stop detecting an os, and clearing cmos seems to fix it but only sometimes? whatsup with that
@mint knot i would strongly suggest that you read up on how windows install works
@little osprey the drives that it does that with, have they ever been used for OS installs?
so do i keep the c drive in but boot from usb?
they have
@mint knot basically yes
@little osprey Are you talking about if you put a USB stick in?
no
@little osprey let me guess, you have "just" formatted them from file explorer?
hah yes thats probably it.. why is that?
there are a number of hidden partitions on those drives
those partitions are connected to the boot process
which is why your bios gets quite confused
thank you for ur advice i will unplug all other drives boot from the usb recovery stick i made then reinstall the drives and wipe them
ah i see.. so how to format one properly?
You can turn of boot from usb inside your UEFI.
It will solve that issue.
I usually do that after wiping a computer to give to someone.
@normal brook its not a usb related one for @little osprey
hopefully this dosent mean the drives i sold had easily recoverable data lol
@little osprey you know what disk management is?
Yeah, data is still on there.
xD
Even with windows long format, you can still get data off of it.
i do now
@little osprey the following is 100% at your own risk.
in disk management, selected the drive and right click the partitions that you want to delete.
ONLY do this on the drive you have connected (which is making the behaviour that you mentioned earlier)
do NOT try and do this do any of the other drives
it will allow you to make a right royal mess
You can't delete your OS drive if that's what you're assuming.
You can delete any data drives though.
no, but he sure as heck can delete everything else
how do u do a clean install if u cant delete ur os drive
You boot to a USB flash drive.
you boot from something that has the ability to do so
yeah it happens to the OS drive too
It loads a mini version of windows called windows PE to install winndows.
@little osprey imo, you would be best served by having someone talking you through the steps WHILE you are doing it. So things can be explained in detail to you.
Since it's booting off of the flash drive, it can wipe the other drives without issue.
can having two drives both with the same windows activation in one pc mess stuff up?
i dont have the pc and drives in question anymore
"mess stuff up" <- elaborate what you mean?
i was just curious
ok i will probablt leave my drives in then cause call of duty crashes everytime and its probably the game files
its like 200gb
Are they two separate hard drives?
they are but i wonder if that would fix the issue after doing a clean wipe
i just dont want anymore bsod erros
i get all diff kins
kinds
@mint knot then it is highly recommended that you dont mess with things you dont fully understand
can ccleaner mess with things i dont understand?
yes
mk lol
that is true though the soultion seems best sutied to wipe verything
OmegaFruitPunch, is there any important data on the machine?
Yeah.
although if you play cs go dont let c cleaner clean advanced files cause youl start getting VAC kicked
Then you can do whatever you want without risking data loss.
which also has cod so i will probably unstiall blizarrd and cod b4 the wipe
@mint knot the following is not said to be mean or to sound mean: But based on the comments you have made so far, i would STRONGLY suggest that you have someone talking you through each step, because there are a number of comments you have made, where you seem quite .. confused .. about what is what.
i dont think so, use the usb to do a clean boot and seperate the drives u want to keep the importatnt stuff, c drive is for sure getting wiped im not too sure whats on e drive but i moved some documents around just in case and b drive will be unplugged as that has alot of older documents that may be important.
Thtats my thought process
Omega, do you know how to make USB Boot media?
Mines in napkin folding :/
i just prefer making certain, because there is bugger all we can really do if you wipe the wrong drive
You're is more advanced than mine.
but if i didnt ask anyone i would have nveer thoguht of doing a wipe i would be scrouing the internet
I think your OS is still fixable tbh.
though i do have abelton and arturia installed
If it were me, I would attempt fixing it.
@mint knot i strongly encourage questions, and if you stick around, you will see me say the following quite a bit: There are no stupid questions, only silly answers
Wiping is always my last resort.
so i wonder if i do a wipe would that mess with the authorizations and activisions
ty for ur advice @foggy hazel
wipe = EVERYTHING is gone
it really helps
I would like to know what was wrong with your computer before you ended up using that driver verifier tool.
You would have to reactivate your windows copy.
is this like your job or something naed?
It seems like that to me too.
in my actual work life? only for about 25+ years
It's my job too.
i mean being a newegg support person
no, i am a volunteer
ah cool :)
Naed, you're a little more cautious than I am.
i think i was following a tutorial on checking ur ram stats for a program called ryzen ram something, another program i was using didnt work to get me that data so i think at one point i tumbled on the verfifier command but didnt see the huge warning
@normal brook context
ive never not shopped at newegg lol, always the cheapest
people take things out of context all the time
I would easily allow someone to wipe their hdd and then recover the data afterwards.
People have to learn.
Rebuilding partitions isn't hard with the right tools.
how do u recover a wiped hdd
there are better ways imo @normal brook :)
yiur saying in denmark local shops beat newegg price?
It's just not how I learn I suppose.
@little osprey taxes/local laws etc
ah i see
I've also never heard of a blank hard drive causing boot loops either.
USB flash drives, yes.
But not HDD's.
@normal brook you talking about the issue @little osprey has?
none of my drives were blank
Yeah.
usb s are really slowing copying some music files and speed went from 12 mb to 600 kb
its happened to me a few times over the years
Yeah.
( F: in this case)
Wait
IF you just format that drive in file explorer
how do u do thesse nice screen captures
Windows 10 adds other partitions.
that IS a windows 10 drive
I see that.
those are the 2 start ones
The GUI looks like it.
and then windows 10 is on the C drive
When installing windows 10, base install gives you 4 partitions.
no, 3
What version of windows 10 are you installing?
but, it doesnt change the point/question you asked
what r all the partitions 4
(the above is win 10 pro)
your question about @little osprey is related to the 2 first partitions
i wonder if pro unactivated would be faster than activated home
IF you format a drive that has had a OS installed (in this case windows 10) in file explorer.
you will only EVER touch the C and F drive in that screenshot
meaning, the 2 others are left over
that is what @little osprey has on the extra drives he has trouble with
i hope that makes sense @normal brook ?
I don't think I'm following.
lol
I know about the MSR.
And the Boot drive.
But why would it cause boot loops unless he's done something wrong?
I've never seen it come out of the blue.
because his bios gets confused
it sees a drive that "supposedly" can boot
but not really
How is that possible?
it comes back around to the bios being wonky
The BIOS doesn't determine if a drive can boot or not.
A file on the drive does.
The boot loader.
and where is that file located in the above screenshot?
and what is still around when you format the drive in file explorer?
so why would my main os drive be effected, if the problem is files not being deleted
one question at a time @normal brook :)
It didn't seem to me that he was formatting an old OS drive.
he isnt
You cannot format the boot partition.
he is plugging in drives that USED to be OS drives
I suppose that could be a thing. It didn't seem like that's what he was talking about though.
I guess I just didn't understand his initial statement.
not trying to sound rude, but please read again :)
i dunno whats going on between you both but naed got it lol
we are both just curious individuals :)
Also, if you format a drive, it usually formats the full physical drive.
no
not if done in file explorer
because that is partition based
you cannot touch the hidden partitions from file explorer
so i should format from disc manager, when wiping drives that had my os?
@little osprey basically yes
mk cool
ideally, you would use something like gparted running from a usb stick instead
i used todo, and something else to get back the missing space after cloning
didnt know windows had one
@mint knot re: screenshots: winkey + shift + s
what about for mac
If it's not your primary drive, disk manager can wipe the whole thing.
@mint knot i cannot remember the keys for it there :)
can i clone drives with it?
I believe you can.
windows disk manager
no
I'm wondering if I'm not getting all of everyones messages.
It really seems like people are off topic quite often in here.
cmd, shift, 4 for mac
no one builds a mac :p
@normal brook you on the client or browser?
Client.
well a robot might
Internet has been spotty on this laptop today though.
might just be discord servers throwing lag/delay your way
its why you see me using so many @ mentions
I honestly thought people were just being weird and saying extremely off topic things.
Lol.
nah, it has been fairly focused for 2 conversations flowing at the same time
i think you saying that is weird and off topic hahaha
but im having trouble following, its 6 am
@mint knot does that key combo leave the screenshot ready for pasting directly?
So what did I miss then?
OmegaFruitPunch was referring to a screenshot shortcut for Mac^^
I'm confused now.
i should be playing videogames but, all this cool tech talk
you have to click on recents in finder to find it
Nice. That proves it.
have a look at that @normal brook
I am not receiving all of the messages.
so i can safely format non os drives from file explorer? im guessing jts best to use disk manager still though
Wait, it's the same. you replied to omega and I never saw his previous message?
I gtg to bed.
3am for me.
@little osprey disk 1 <- that can be formatted all you want from file explorer
I work at 8. xD
best of luck @normal brook
3am gang
Thanks Naed.
Nice talking to you.
Thanks for explaining everything lol.
Sorry I misunderstood so much.
@little osprey Disk 2 <- That HAS to be done in disk management IF you want to get it clean. But as mentioned, gparted ideally
@normal brook you are very welcome, and dont worry about it, and welcome to the server :)
guys im goign to sleep 2 its 3am for me as well i have been paretty engaged in this file discussion kind of interesting
@little osprey , usually disk 1 will be your OS disk though.
mk, so anything with partitions that arent familiar?
Just make sure you find your C drive in a partition.
as mentioned @mint knot ask all the questions you want :)
that i didnt make
Thats the important thing. That disk is your main disk that you don't want to touch.
i will be back when r u usually on @foggy hazel
i hope u get paid for this at least
here? nope :)
@little osprey Nice talking with you today.
this is just for fun :)
@normal brook likewise, now bugger off and get some sleep :)
Where do you work Naed?
i was thinking of starting a used pc market shtick, but after being here im afraid to explode people with power supplys
i have clients i do work for nowadays :)
Oh nice.
well bless u for helping
:)
I'm a Systems Developer for a trucking company.
that must be interesting
i used to wire lightings for trucks lol
That's why I'm so interested in things I've never heard of before.
Cause I'm supposed to know Lol.
I used to drive Tow Trucks. xD
a lot of what we have talked about here today, is not really something you "need" to know
it might be practical, once in a blue moon
but you dont need it as such
well im glad i know now
no no @little osprey YOU do very much need it
lol
r u gys saying to use disk manager to wipe the drives to get rid of bootable partiotions that confuses a mobob?
yeah
ok i learned something though it seems like @foggy hazel is aying to do it from a usb using antoher program
That very quickly sums it up.
If that was said before all of this, I wouldn't have gotten confused. xD
is that to not accidentally wipe something or to do a better wipe
well once your in my issue its too late fkr that but yeah
@mint knot because not all parition types are equal
@mint knot i specifically talked about the USB way, for drives that have partitions that might not be easily editable in disk management
why would that be the case
because windows is weird
if i wiped everything from the windows install screen is that easily recoverable?
The more powerful tool is diskpart using the command prompt
thats a great answer i can understand that
Windows it weird. But diskpart can fix them without third party tools.
@idle torrent yes, but again, that requires that you are comfortable in the command line
gparted = gui
@little osprey you can get some of it usually, but not all of it
for people that are NOT myself, i strongly recommend gparted for that reason alone
@idle torrent stole what I was going to say. xD
whats the command for that is it dispart d/: r/ just curious
I used to use partition magic, it could also do just about anything
@little osprey If you wipe everything and install over it, you can seriously ruin the data. But if you don't write over it, you can often rebuilt the partitions.
There are multiple types of formatting.
The basic is a quick format.
commands that can be copy pasted should NOT be posted here
ah i gotcha
It simply makes the drive forget where everything is. Even though it's still there.
its all about that context that i mentioned earlier
im not going to try it
and that is prime example of that caution you mentioned earlier @normal brook
@mint knot YOU might not, but there is NO guarantee that someone else is not
now im thinking about human memory compared to storage drives
computers are weirdly built like people
hmm something to consider after i unfold my blanket
I would think of it more like a library.
Remember all of those cards you looked through to find a book?
Imagine if those didn't exist that the books didn't either.
If you throw all of those out, and all of the books cease to exist.
It's basically that.
r u talking about human memory
But the books are technically still there.
Who got headphones on rn?
You just forgot how to find them.
brb im going to mk ultra my drives
A library that has shelves full of empty beer bottles and all the books are on the floor so you never remember what that stupid thing was called when you need to
My heart dropped
If you want to wipe your drives so you can give them to someone else, there are tools that will write to the drives multiple times so there is no way the old data can be read.
Same
Never have seen those though.
and they sound like putting your music through a guitar amp
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Those are my headphones.
have you guys heard the coronavirus song
Weird flex but okay
it was made by mit i believe
My surround sound can go low as 5hz
Sennheiser's are awesome.
I have the Vizio 5.1.4
yeah i love sennheiser, microphones too
Dolby atmos
their dynamic mics are the best
The novel coronavirus, often described as an invisible enemy, is indeed a nanoscopic object that cannot be seen. But COVID-19 can be made audible. MIT professor Markus Buehler used a computational algorithm to translate the structure and sequence of the virus' spike protein in...
TBH mine sounded better.
250khz sample rate
But I think it was subjective.
i dunno hxx either
audio techinica are super reliable
AT is middle kf the road, but yeah pretty reliable
Yβall broke π
they are like a less poor mans behringer
My surround sound can do better than any headphones on the market
i love behringer too tho
sorry hd-6xx
funny my dad gave me a used behringer today
surround sound is lame
didnt know it was good
Ok back to my astrophysics PhD work
hps3000
a behringer what?
swtich to cs
?
what the hell mac lol
Iβm doing a project on the andromeda galaxy and is wonders
what behringer did you get omega? mic? mixer?
hps3000 grey heaphones
Like how itβs going to hit us
thats interesting
π€·ββοΈ
ohhh i had those once i think, they hurt my ears really bad
Ofc
how do you begin to model that
what are you going to do after ur phd
200k salary
im not sure if i should upgrade from the 558
apply to space x
gross
you sound like a space x person
for cali or neveda
cali is expensive
150 is nothing in cali.
space x makes alot of sense
True
so many factors can dwindle a species
But I have a saving account with 700k in it
including humans
i make like 10k a yr lmao
For studies and future work
I will end up moving to Silicon Valley
Idk yet
More jobs to come
what school do u go to
is that depend on ur exp level and prior interships
UCLA atm
ucla for the phd?
Night guys.
Yea
same here its almost 4 am Been procastining for 2 days staright
how do u have so much
if u dont mind me asking
its 6:24am for me lmao
Part-time
any tips? Did you put ur earnings in a vanguard fund, bought bitcoin? Roth?
NASA jet-purpulsion I worked in a control room
how much was the part time salary
U can do stocks
Like invest in small companyβs that have potential
40k salary
5k extra
i was wondering if you follow the sandp 500 u should avg 5 percent but if those companies are listed on there for only 20 years
than r u going to really avg 5 percent
π€·ββοΈ
thats great that u saved so much from 40k something people make 90k and have nothing saved
What are u majoring
Oh
I took comp sci
Gave up at recursion
I passed arrays
So a win I guessπ€·ββοΈ
is astrophysics easier?
so you gave up and picked something harder lol?
Actually better than comp sci
Itβs more exciting and thatβs what drives me to learn
Like what is on the other side of this universe
And the multiverse theory
Galaxies colliding etc...
what would ne the diff between doing comp sci vs doing what ur doing cant you use math do simulations theory as well if that makes sense
Just put together a pc build. It turned on. A red light was blinking where the power switch is located. The pc fan was clicking and smoke came from the 8 pin connector. Need help please
You must do the elementary work
AP Physics 1 and 2
Then go to physics c
Then quantum mechanics and
have u heard of eric weinstein
No ? Who is that
he makes a hard point on his opinion that pyhsicts havent really improved the field for many decades
u should look him up, his also big on gemotric something
@rough hornet @mint knot go to #general-chat .. if you want to chat non related pc build stuff.. some people might ask questions about their pc. and be ignored..
sorry about that
Letβs move to general
but check him out
I need help
I forgot this is build chat even π€·ββοΈπ
@subtle halo can you help me?
@foggy hazel could help.
Thanks
@shy dome what do you need help with?
@pastel briar someone is helping me atm thanks
Ok good goes to get wake up drink
i feel like you rp
eh?
do you know what rp is
@subtle halo thank you for the @
he should be on track for trying to fix things up now
@tranquil dust Role Play?
@pastel briar yes
Yes I do some Role Play in GTA 5 and used to do so in a few other games back in the day
Glad I join this server. @subtle halo pointed me in the right direction and my boy @foggy hazel went above and beyond helping me with my problem. Thanks so much. Peace and love.
π
you are very welcome @shy dome
That's pretty rare to get help from Naed.
hmm, i was certain that concrete lid on top of the box would be enough to "encourage" you to stay there @sudden turret
:P
there was a hole in the bottom.
ah yes, the whole "eat everything in sight" trait
sorry man, was out working on-site
@foggy hazel that is always fun, but for the ones I could catch I was able to help and get sorted so not every thing got burnt down π ....yet
also ordered my 4U rack mount case for my stealth gaming PC also...
everyone is in good mood today xD
for now yes.....
@subtle halo the US has not really woken up yet
@subtle halo checks fed ex tracking....aaaaaaand my good mood just went sour....
why you ordered during xD pendemic lol
why does fed ex have to be so inefficent when delivering my stuff....
expect it to work like that for now
no I don't mind it being slow, but they had it less then 10 minutes away from my place, took the item an hour north and are still holding it up north.....go figure
as in I could have driven 10 minutes from where I live and gotten my thing faster π
in Willington CT
@foggy hazel I am awake π woke up at 06:30 local time oddly even though I went to bed around 01:30 and don't feel tired....
tracking hasn't been updated and its been this way for two days
plus knowing how things are I will go there and give them the tracking number only to be told "its on the truck" and it just end up being stuck in the trailer at the depot but they are too dumb to figure it out and slow to get it... sigh
plus its only longer legs for my server rack so not entirely mission critical...
contact them...? maybe just maybe they will do something about it
I have tried, most of the people seem to be about as well clued in as a sloth
meh, im not really worried, like I said its not mission critical things so.... π
Reason: Bad word usage
you said π©
meh
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
bots drunk
just rated G mode.
My parents donβt support me for anything I swear.
eh?
I am just mad.
I want to make money through streaming yt and gaming but itβs impossible when my βPCβ is 300 bucks.
Like absolutely impossible.
I see
and even then its not always cracked up to what its made to look like (don't get me wrong, I would support anyone who wants to have a go at it)
@past geyser as far as streaming what are you wanting to stream?
I want to stream subnautica, fortnite possibly minecraft if I ever get that game maybe just have some streams of me talking to supporters that I might have in the future and many more things in the future of doing so.
better question is how old are you. π
Well itβs a 300 dollar HP I think itβs called an βall in oneβ lmao.
touch screen?
No.
what?
well that too, but I try to stay away from those questions... :D
@past geyser oof, yea not much help there...I don't think I can help the HP π
@past geyser also I think the question was intended more for COPPA (Child Online Protection Act) regulations perhaps? IE you have to be a certain age to really be online/collect data/ect
@sudden turret unless I am misunderstanding your intent of the question?
I mean I use Nvidia geforce now to play games on better things but still,
It takes 15 seconds to open my browser.
Oh.
I asked because you just don't see that many young success streamers making a living.
Oh yeah.
seems they are trying to run head first rather than learning to crawl/walk
and getting mad at the parents.
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
that or they burn them selves out very early on
has nothing to do with being a 'perv'
.
or a combination of both
I mean I donβt even have a good relationship with my parents so I feel that is partially the reason.
And I never will.
parents issue sad
I literally do everything around the house everything they took off my door they always 24/7 tell me to do things like to bring the cup that they had that is 2 inches away from them to the kitchen and I do respect my dad since he does hard work and deserves a break but all my mom has to do is take calls look at car damage make an estimate and send checks for only like 2-3 more hours than I do schoolwork.
in streaming.. you must be wholesome.. and accept criticism + very good sense of humour.. thats how you gain viewers.
and be tollerable to the trolls and those who post hateful/mean comments just for the poops n' giggles of it....
(IE have a thick skin)
how, planes have thin skin to fly better
looks at steam library of 300+ games....can't decide what to play.....
@sudden turret yea but us planes also can hit speeds of 300+mph and cruise at 32,000+ above the ground to avoid the stupid π
@sudden turret I mean my mom threw food and a cup of hot coffee over me and my wall including the cup hit me really normal you know.
sad
will daddy boxy do that ? xD
never.
Honestly if I have a child Iβm gonna treat them so much different.
Reason: Bad word usage
there will always be ups and downs.
well i read some study that.. they if you have bad childhood.. you might end up mimiking them. when you have your own family
that all depends tomie
yeah
so many variables.
That does seem true but itβs honestly got to my head too much to where I know itβs not gonna happen.
If I even have kids anyways.
@subtle halo the social framework you are raised in, is but one of many things that you CAN impact with the choices you make
my mom never hit me but just loud mouth xD
Tomie_yells
ye
Tomie, did she throw the flip-flop at you
They wanna know why I hate my baby brother so much but when you donβt have a door and canβt have any privacy and some little 2 year old comes at you every 2 minutes it gets annoying.
you can't hate on a 2 year old
Tomie, did she throw the flip-flop at you
@sudden turret nope just mouth like argument. but only took few minutes then we are good.

I just tell him to get out of my room.
strange they removed the door to your room.....
Smh
Because he always has some greasy hands touching my mouse and keyboard.
clean them.
.
Be big boy and teach him the hand washing song
Well Iβd rather keep it clean 24/7 then having to clean it every hour.
.
Okay.
Let me tell you what to do with his hands.
Well Iβd rather keep it clean 24/7 then having to clean it every hour.
:)
@past geyser please do yourself a favour and take a good look at how you talk to others. You just might see why people treat you like they do.
Indeed
Communication is important. People cant read minds nor do they think exactly like you. So dont expect people to understand you with a simple glance or an exchange of only some (probably angry) words
hello i require help
what would be a good power supply that isn't too overkill yet reasonable for this build
Lol
RMx if it's a good price still, Revolution d.f if that's in stock
G3/MWE gold/Phanteks amp as other options if first two conditions are not met
a 650 would be fine
More or less. Tho I do question, how much of this stuff do you already have? Half of the components there arent good buys for new
gives you head room to have future upgrades (a 750 would be fine also)
750 is a waste of money tbh
depends on what the user plane for future upgrades
I thought a 650 for my build was going to be a waste but wound up being good because I moved a GTX 1080 into my build....
but either way....new components are kind of ehhh market wise at the moment...
price wise
@cloud drum https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nNzTRk added a psu
Hmm b5...
does it have a 8 pin conector?
I would have to look
it should
Which 8 pin do you mean?
pcie
but most more modern PSUs should have one
it should x2
Like... The second one?
Because all modern PSUs have a 8pin pcie
And most have 2 or more
Pretty outdated then...
it should be 6 + 2
I have never seen a non-propritory PSU come without a 8pin
+2?
what does that mean
can you use that for a 8 pin
6 + 2 is refering to the pin configureation
for pcie
^
depending on the PSU 6 pin may also be a 4+2
(usually found on older PSUs)
@cloud drum that would be the 6+2
so i have toupgrade my psu for this rtx card
@stoic island corrected π
bullocks
Is everything on your list coming from a prebuilt?
it was a prebuilt then i added and remvoed a lot of parts
@pastel briar You can run a stock 3950x+2080Ti off 550w. 650w for OCing. 750w for HEDT CPU/SLI
yup
So yeah, 750w is a waste when it can be spent on better quality instead usually (tho Human Malware is a bit interesting on that now)
i own everything except for gpu
right now i have a 1060
Aw rip revolution d.f. 650w is OOS and 750w is pretty expensive
Reason: Bad word usage
but keep in mind I generally error on the side of caution and give a bit more then may be needed mainly due to not knowing what future plans the person may have (I also take into account the potential to use the PSU with in multiple iterations of there build
im prolly gonna have to get a new one to support the gpu
Mwe gold 650w should be fine
example the PSU in my Optiplex3010 was used in at least two previous iterations of my PC build
Very different afaik
a lot
Different generations, different protections, all they have in similar is prob 80+ bronze
so which version would you rec for this build
Not going to look into it but some difference that can happen
topology, caps, protections, solder quality, etc
Which effect voltage ripple/regulation, transient response, holdup time, etc
Not one of those
oh ok
depending on your build a good rule of thumb is to get at least 80% above your rated power requirement, some brands I have had good luck with (though most of these are either Tier 1 or Tier 2 PSUs anyways) are Corsair CX series (if I need something that fits in the budget range but gives me good quality), Silverstone, and currently run a Corsair SF 550W PSU (IIRC its a platinum)
For more on what I am talking about as far as the tier list is concerned (the higher the tier the better Tier S being the really good ones and Tier 1 being the top end, and going down to Tier 5 or 6 (T6 just stay away from these please) you can visit https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/
also reason why I say stay away from the Tier 6 PSUs (note if there are any more tiers beyond Tier 6 they also are being included in the stay away warning) is pictured above. I hope this info help answer your question and sorry for the wall o' text but I figure I might as well help you get the best for your build.
As for any psu decision please make sure you get a quality psu, donβt cheap out or worse donβt get one of the Chinese IEDs
and @cursive wharf also adds other good points as well
PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 12.4 welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Created and maintained by @DatTestBench, @Stefan Payne, @GreatMasterAden, @Juular, @Elisis, @Maurice from Madagascar and @LukeSavenije Last Update: 12-04-2020 Tiering of various units is opinion based off repu...
@cloud drum the Tier list will help in sorting out which PSU to consider as well
ohh okkay
Please... Dont use the first tier list
CX imo is the lowest tier you should ever go
It's a sad joke
I don't use it so... Ltt tier list ftw.
I usually stick to the LTT one my self
Might be the best rn with the bad stock..
Also you dont really need to get x% above rated full power consumption when PSUs can run 10% overload sustained quite easily, if decent quality
yeah the 650w market is kinda wonky rn
what does the +80 mean
I would look at any of the PSUs with in Tier S, Tier 1 or Tier 2 (Tier 2/Tier 3 would be more the if your in a pinch and Tier 3 would be really pushing it honestly as in your in a real emergency levels of oh POOP)
@cloud drum I assume you heard of the Chineseium IED?
no
but just because something is 80+ titanium for example, doesn't mean that its better than psu's of the other ratings, the features and protection are still important
@cloud drum I present for your viewing consideration and pleasure, Exhibits A and B, the Chineseium IED
oh no not that
The Chinese IED I mentioned
named because it was made so cheaply it more or less blew up, yes
was gonna say
as in if you don't care about safety that is the type to get
that is very cheaply made
don't even use a surge protector too
if you wanna cheap out
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π
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SCP
because realistically for one, you arent going to be torture testing your PC much. Two being that PSUs only at bad quality will die off quickly at 90% load
3950x peak is 145w
2080Ti peak is 375w
rest of system peak is like 70w
That's 590w peak, on a torture test, stock mind you. Averages are going to be a fair bit less. 3950x is 125w average torture, 2080Ti is like 360w average torture, rest of system is probs like 40w - 60w. That puts it at 545w average torture. Let alone being less on just standard heavy workloads. 2080Ti average heavy standard use is like 290w as an example
why?
at that price? no
price no, wattage wise/tier list wise yes it would be acceptible
Yea... G3 or MWE Gold is cheap and nice
i have not read over the fairly random back/forth. But has anyone actually asked if that build is serious?
because the parts are wonky as heck
ah. i see @cursive wharf asking
why are psu out of stock
All the parts but GPU in the list is owned
yes @cloud drum
oh lol yah
@pastel briar please look over the parts you "okay" by not commenting on them
oh wait
that 2060SUper is bonkers expensive
back ordered...
let me ask a different way
ok
what parts, on that list do you NOT either own or have on the way or otherwise ordered?
for future reference, click the "gear" icon and mark things as purchased then :)
it makes things much simpler for people to look over :)
ok i will next time
the gang was already working on a psu recommendation for you
so i will mind my own on that :)
haha yah
I orded a gpu but did not take into a count for the psu
I thought it would be fine but no i was wrong
all is good in the end π
ask away :)
I have a 1 tb bvme SSD I want to install with the problem I mentioned yesterday can I just have that drive in there then wipe everything and select for install as the new c drive?
you want to have that nvme be the new OS drive?
@mint knot if you want to use that NVME SSD as your boot drive, yes you can, IIRC I think you may have asked the same question yesterday and I also replied, but you will be just fine, keep in mind formatting the NVME SSD and installing windows WILL destroy any existing data on the drive, before doing any thing I would make sure you have any thing important backed up before hand
Ok
Does it matter where it's positioned it would be the last name spot in the Mobo I'm assuming that's a slower pcie lame
... I really need to go ahead and buy my case while it's on sale. Even if I plan to wait on the rest of the parts, nothing is likely to come out that would invalidate a standard ATX case anytime soon.
... so I shouldn't buy the case while it's on sale? Or are you just talking about the fact that a standard case is likely to stay standard
a standard will stay standard
its kinda in the name :)
but yes, there is nothing on the horizon that will change in regards to the ATX standard
(for cases)
A 10 dollar rebate and free shipping is a good deal. Besides, if I don't buy something and commit myself I'll probably just keep talking about it forever.
can have an issue with being indecisive
@mint knot as @foggy hazel said it usually depends on the board, but generally putting the SSD in the first slot is going to be the best)
Ok ty guys
no problem
Guys
does any one know of any good bugget video cards
@fervent wedge depends on the budget.
I've been saving money for a long time
And I plan to build a pc that can handles 4k heavy mods like GTA Ans RDR
Any advice
@little osprey what kind of budget are you looking at?
@fervent wedge got a pcpp list? (if you do, send me a pm with it, and i will post it for you)
3000 $
ok
(because the bot will eat your link if you post it, its our anti spam protection)
im waiting to part princes to go down right now to
when do you plan to start buying parts?
Like in two (max three) months
@foggy hazel can I get your opinion on something cause so many people keep telling me to get different things cause Iβve never built a gaming pc
@little osprey come back when you are closer to purchase time (i am NOT saying this because i dont want to help you, but simply because what i might recommend now, has a fair chance of being irrelevant when you are ready to buy)
@mellow basalt ask away :)
@foggy hazel thanks I really appreciate your help
@little osprey you are very welcome, i look forward to seeing you closer to purchase time :)
π
@foggy hazel which one is better: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/RapidSharpShooter/saved/#view=PXcvf7 or https://pcpartpicker.com/user/RapidSharpShooter/saved/#view=sQW8Jx
Naed or would you recommend something else?
lets start by answering your original question :)
IF the choice had to be between those two very specific builds
then number 1 (the one with the a80 ssd is my choice
However, that is only IF that is the actual choice
IF those wasnβt the chooses what would you recommend?
My budget including the monitor is $1400
modifying the build i mentioned above
throw out the Gammax
throw out the Cougar
throw out the Case fan
and put in the P400A from the other list
Wait that one that youβre talking about was number 2 π
I named it that?
as i said, the one with the A80 ssd
i specifically did NOT use your names for that reason :)
nothing to be sorry about :)
Iβm glad you said something about the case as well cause I donβt really like the case
Not wanting to "hijack" this thread ... however I am piecing together a gaming PC from a prebuilt I jumped the gun a few months back.
Current build is;
MOBO ASUS prime b540
CPU Ryzen 7 2700 and
RAM venegeance pro 16g
GPU RTX 2060 super
Just ordered a Ryzen 5 3600X, will my MOBO be sufficient or what should I be looking at .... been out of this game for 20+yrs.
GPU opgrade will be in the coming year or so once I see a "need" for it.
@wise rapids check the mainboard manufacturers page for specific version that the bios has to be
@mellow basalt https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QP9DFG <- that is basically what i am suggesting
@foggy hazel thank you ! I updated the BIOS but will double check. Just watched to many youtube videos and VRM heat-sinks kept popping up as topics of conversation and my board doesn't have any.
Whoops wrong copy and paste
@foggy hazel itβs bugging out: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/RapidSharpShooter/saved/sQW8Jx
It changed the motherboard to tomahawk
@wise rapids generally, unless you plan on trying to overclock the pants of the cpu, OR are planning on stuffing it in a airtight case? Dont worry about it :)
Also which monitor is better?
one question/situation at a time @mellow basalt
Sorry π
the reason your list flipped to the tomahawk is you edited/interacted with the tomehawk list and then went back to the other list
if you open what i linked above, you should have the list you want
then you can just save that
@wise rapids dont worry, just keep on talking :)
its one question per person, at a time :)
@mellow basalt re: monitors: equally "not very exciting"
@foggy hazel just ordered a Lian Li dynamic XL. Will be filling it up with QL120 corsairs ... my current case Coolermaster Lite 5 was choking everything inside.
ah, rainbow build
fanboy ... yes. building 486's back in the day didnt have all these fancy "toys"
nope, they did not
alot has changed. thanks again @foggy hazel
I wouldn't call my self a fan boy but the more fans I can cram into my build the better....
you are very welcome, please ask again if you dont find the answer @wise rapids
Naed I ran into some sort of problem
@pastel briar i will be installing 10 fans in the case. Then eventually upgrade to AIO cpu cooler.
Yea?
now answer your own question :)
Iβm fine? π
