#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 518

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Does your motherboard have onboard graphics?

terse stag May 6, 2020, 5:52 AM

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I recent it

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:52 AM

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I know that used to be a thing.

terse stag May 6, 2020, 5:52 AM

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also what do you mean on board graphics

somber magnet May 6, 2020, 5:52 AM

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igpu lol

terse stag May 6, 2020, 5:53 AM

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???

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:53 AM

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motherboards used to come with integrated graphics on the motherboard.

stoic island May 6, 2020, 5:53 AM

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I don't think fx had iGPU?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:53 AM

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I don't know how long ago the last one was.

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But they're built into the CPU now.

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Which that CPU doesn't have one.

terse stag May 6, 2020, 5:53 AM

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I got this PC when i was in 7th grade

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:53 AM

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If I remember correctly FX series were without APU's.

terse stag May 6, 2020, 5:53 AM

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5 to 4 years ago

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:54 AM

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It's not that bad. I think there is something wrong with it.

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Like bad drivers or something.

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@terse stag What PSU is in it?

terse stag May 6, 2020, 5:55 AM

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PSU?

stoic island May 6, 2020, 5:55 AM

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I'd assume driver update is in order

somber magnet May 6, 2020, 5:55 AM

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power supply unit

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Power Supply Unit

terse stag May 6, 2020, 5:55 AM

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TR2 700W

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:55 AM

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I wonder if it's thermal throttling or something.

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Do you have windows 7 or windows 10?

terse stag May 6, 2020, 5:56 AM

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10

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It says ThermalTake on it

somber magnet May 6, 2020, 5:56 AM

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now im curious to see what discord would look like on windows 7

if they even support it

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:56 AM

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That should be plenty of power to handle your setup.

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I still have windows 7 on my other computer.

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I don't like microsoft.

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I was avoiding windows 10.

somber magnet May 6, 2020, 5:57 AM

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well there's not many options with wide support

terse stag May 6, 2020, 5:57 AM

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I cant even run minecraft btw

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 5:57 AM

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why would u aboid windows ten

little osprey May 6, 2020, 5:57 AM

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windows 10 is great

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:57 AM

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@terse stag, you're having what seems like software issues.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 5:58 AM

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7 is unsupported

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:58 AM

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I'm no longer avoiding it.

terse stag May 6, 2020, 5:58 AM

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How would i fix it

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:58 AM

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I just held out till the last second.

somber magnet May 6, 2020, 5:58 AM

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someone talking about windows 10 with a linus pfp just makes me think of pirating

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amazing

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:58 AM

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I hate microsoft. I work in IT. My whole job is fixing their mistakes.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 5:58 AM

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I work in IT as well lol

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Mac is worse

terse stag May 6, 2020, 5:58 AM

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How would i fix the soft ware issue

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:59 AM

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@loud galleon Run a game and tell us your GPU utilization and CPU utilization as well as their MHz.

terse stag May 6, 2020, 5:59 AM

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YOU @ someone else!

little osprey May 6, 2020, 5:59 AM

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especially when the end user is a marketing person and doesn't know how to add a single printer lol

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Mac is far from worse.

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I hardly have issues with Mac computers.

terse stag May 6, 2020, 5:59 AM

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@normal brook YOu @'d the wrong person

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 5:59 AM

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macs r gross foe

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doe

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Windows computers it seems like there are the most complicated weird issues.

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Sorry. T_T

little osprey May 6, 2020, 5:59 AM

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yeah if your endusers are exper mac users lol

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Mac's are based off unix.

loud galleon May 6, 2020, 5:59 AM

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?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 5:59 AM

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You're saying you don't like Unix?

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:00 AM

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macs are user friends

terse stag May 6, 2020, 6:00 AM

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What game and where would i find that stuff though

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:00 AM

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friendly

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:00 AM

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@loud galleon accident. Sorry man.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 6:00 AM

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I never have many issues with over 100 windows 10 machines and windows server ranging from 2012 to 16 to 19

loud galleon May 6, 2020, 6:00 AM

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ok

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:00 AM

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windows are more complicated but u could do a lot more with them

little osprey May 6, 2020, 6:00 AM

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could be the way those machines are used and what type of workstation setup you got going on

terse stag May 6, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Where would i find the GPU and CPU utilization as well as their MHz

little osprey May 6, 2020, 6:00 AM

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task manager

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:00 AM

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ctrl del

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alt

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Ctrl Shift Del.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 6:00 AM

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under performance tab

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Ctrl Shift Esc*

terse stag May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Give me one second

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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yeah

little osprey May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Ctrl+ Alt+Del

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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yes

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what he said

terse stag May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Alt+f4

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Not Ctrl + Alt + Del, it's longr.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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or the es

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esc

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Ctrl + Shift + Esc.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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you cna get to it from del

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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It brings it right up.

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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ok

somber magnet May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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i was tempted to say alt f4

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Or right click the start bar and click Task Manager.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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it pulls another window and you click it

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lol

terse stag May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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I signed up for the giveaway so i am hoping i can get in

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:01 AM

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click the power button

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Turn your house power off?

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I feel like that's next.

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Lol.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 6:02 AM

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teamgroup gx2 vs l5 3d vs wd green?

somber magnet May 6, 2020, 6:02 AM

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turn the city power off somehow

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:02 AM

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that was a whole lot of gibberish

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yes

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:02 AM

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What's wrong with the WD black for $79.99 right now?

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:02 AM

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throw water on the cities power generators

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Go ahead and unplug the power to your state please.

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Then plug it back in.

somber magnet May 6, 2020, 6:03 AM

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turn off the country

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:03 AM

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ssd or hdd?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:03 AM

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SSD

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NVMe

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:03 AM

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500gb?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Oh, that's right. Sorry.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 6:03 AM

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yeah

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Forgot that was 500gb

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Not such a great deal.

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Well its ok.

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:03 AM

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its ok

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wd black are fast tho

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Yeah.

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x4 PCIe lanes.

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:04 AM

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its a better deal than paying the same for a 970 evo

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for 250gb

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:04 AM

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I think the 970 evo's are pointless.

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:04 AM

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yeah

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theyre overpriced

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:04 AM

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They were the best. And are still the fastest.

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But there are so many better options now.

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:04 AM

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yeah

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:04 AM

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The newer pricing on the WD stuff is awesome.

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:04 AM

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theres going to be some very fast new ssds coming out soon tho

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:05 AM

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They're new to the market, a little late even, but have great prices now.

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You talking about the PCIe 4 SSD's?

little osprey May 6, 2020, 6:06 AM

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sata ssds

terse stag May 6, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Ok so

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:06 AM

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no i saw one recently

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it was an m.2

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5gig read and right

terse stag May 6, 2020, 6:06 AM

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WHat tab do i need to be on when i do she ctrl+shift+esc

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:06 AM

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performance

little osprey May 6, 2020, 6:06 AM

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performance

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:06 AM

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HAH I SAID IT FIRST

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Im so cool

lime forge May 6, 2020, 6:07 AM

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banned

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:07 AM

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NO??????? ):

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:08 AM

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@terse stag Just do it now.

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Who's banned? 😮

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Oh I misunderstood didn't I?

midnight pelican May 6, 2020, 6:10 AM

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zacks been following me

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Who got banned>

lime forge May 6, 2020, 6:11 AM

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me

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Hey what are those Microphones that go under your shirt and clip on your neck opening called?

little leaf May 6, 2020, 6:12 AM

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@lime forge what do you think about this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ds8c7T

System Builder

lime forge May 6, 2020, 6:13 AM

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rm650x psu would be better

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550 cutting it close

little leaf May 6, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Aight

lime forge May 6, 2020, 6:15 AM

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otherwise good

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just uhhh i've never heard of that brand of ssd

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Silicon Power?

lime forge May 6, 2020, 6:15 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:15 AM

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It's a x4 PCIe lane SSD.

lime forge May 6, 2020, 6:15 AM

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doesnt mean its good

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Not the weird x2 SSD's.

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It means it's faster than the x2 SSD's.

lime forge May 6, 2020, 6:16 AM

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some FX processors have "8 cores" and theyre hot garbage

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literally hot

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garbage

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spec does not equal everything

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:16 AM

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That's true, but most of the speed is coming from the connection to the nand memory.

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not the controller.

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The controller is what differes the wd black from the 970 pro.

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 6:17 AM

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silicon power sata ssd is good

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:17 AM

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You don't get that much difference in performance, but there is some.

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 6:17 AM

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don't know about their nvme line tho

little leaf May 6, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Could switch it out for crucial p1

terse stag May 6, 2020, 6:17 AM

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@normal brook So i am getting good fps on league like im only getting 60 though.

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 6:17 AM

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basically the same as wd green

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:17 AM

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@terse stag What is your CPU utilization and speed as well as GPU?

lime forge May 6, 2020, 6:17 AM

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could be a fine ssd for all i know but im just voicing my opinion that i would go with a brand that i know. just me. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 6:18 AM

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well yeah

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:18 AM

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It's decent.

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I've put one in a users computer at work.

little leaf May 6, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Ok https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ds8c7T

System Builder

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:21 AM

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@little leaf You didn't change it.

little leaf May 6, 2020, 6:22 AM

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I change the drive and psu

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:27 AM

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I think Mikos's thermal paste "cured".

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HIs CPU seems to be underclocking to 1.4ghz

little osprey May 6, 2020, 6:31 AM

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So.. how much would this have cost me before corona? https://secure.newegg.ca/wishlist/pd/33541352

little leaf May 6, 2020, 6:32 AM

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@normal brook what cpu does he have?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:33 AM

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hey what do you guys recommend for servers running several vms runnning simple game servers like minecraft

little osprey May 6, 2020, 6:34 AM

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depends on the server hardware

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CPU/Memory

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:34 AM

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im thinking ryzen 8 core

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but the 160 ryzen 2700 and 1700 are not on sale atm

little osprey May 6, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Ryzen Epyc or whatever is the server cpu i believe

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:35 AM

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debating buying a crypeto righ to stock up on gpus

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what about r9 3900

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:35 AM

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@little leaf FX-6300 he says.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:35 AM

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does ram matter alot>

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:36 AM

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You should look up the recommended specs for minecraft servers.

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It's grown over the years.

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I once ran a server on a dual core 4gb ram machine.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:37 AM

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it could also be a maple story server

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Back in 2011.

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You should get a VPS instead.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:37 AM

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damn those were the days

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:38 AM

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https://www.inmotionhosting.com/cloud-vps

Cloud VPS | InMotion Hosting

Cloud VPS powered by redundant cloud infrastructure. All unmanaged plans come with High Availability, Unlocked CPUs, and SSDs

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Seems reasonable here.

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$50 a month for 8gb and 4 cores.

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This way if you want to quit 3 months down the road you've only lost $150.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:39 AM

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hmm would maple story be cpu intensive

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Probably not.

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I used to run MU Online servers.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:40 AM

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i have 3 ryzen 8 core cpus 1 is personal 1 my friend is testing and one needs to be built

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:40 AM

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You can usually run the server on pretty low spec machines.

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Why don't you just use one of those then?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:41 AM

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what else do you think i vould do with 3 ryzen 2700

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one of them is being used

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Ryzen 7 2700?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:41 AM

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2 2700 and 1 1700

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Oh 3 different ryzen 7 2700's?

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I see.

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Which one is being used?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:41 AM

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i wish it was on sale again

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:42 AM

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I should really sell my machine.

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People are spending so much on computers right now.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:42 AM

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1 is being used as a test for the server one needs to be built and one is my persnal rig

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:42 AM

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And once this is over, I could build a better machine.

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If you have a server already, why are you asking about them?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:43 AM

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you can build a solid ryzen computer and if u go on offer up you can pull some good condition ex mining gpus like 580s and 570s from amd

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im debating buying a crypto mining rig with 6 570s gpu then taking two or three to turn into additonal servers, at the current price only ryzen 5 6 core is affordable

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:44 AM

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I would start with what you have man.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:44 AM

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im trying to figure out if gpu matters more or cpu matters more for the vm/server combo

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:44 AM

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You've got a great processor for server use right now.

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For minecraft?

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Servers are usually CPU bound.

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That's generally most all servers.

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It's rare a server has a GPU installed.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:45 AM

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so most of the game intenseive stuff will be on the client side?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:45 AM

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Yes.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:45 AM

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i c i c

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have you seen that video of someone that made a server with the mean stack for a survival game i believe 7 days to die something like that

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trying to build something like that

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:46 AM

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No. The mean stack?

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Whats that?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:47 AM

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i ran verfier in command prompt on my pc and it broke it, alot of bsod after logging in and running

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:47 AM

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verifier? Whats that?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:48 AM

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mongo db express.js angular and node.js

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verfier.exe is something you should never run on a wokring computer unless you are testing drivers and is a dev

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i tried wipe my c drive and it wouldnt let me

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you have to kill it with command prompt in safe mode, a experience I hgihgly dont recommend

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:50 AM

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Looks like verifier is a normal windows troubleshooting program.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:50 AM

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imagine its ur birthday and you break your computer and the new Denon prime 4 controller you ordered hasnt been delivered for two days. such is life

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it has a warning that you shouldnt run it on a normal working system

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:51 AM

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I've never actually seen driver verifier.

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Thanks for this.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:52 AM

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now that i think aobut it might have been fine if you only select sepfic dirvers

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:52 AM

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But I definitely think you probably used it wrong.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:52 AM

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yeah i did lololololololololololol

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:52 AM

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what are you using for Virtualization?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:53 AM

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vm

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vm are

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:53 AM

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vmware?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:54 AM

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yep

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i believe so

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also g skill ripsaw ddr4 3200 on a msi pro carbon x470 mobo highly not recommend

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trident z works well but the ripshaws couldnt hit 2800 and i played with the xmp profiles and overclocking

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:56 AM

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Is it on the qualified vendor list?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:57 AM

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actually i dont know when i checked i looked at both the trident and ripshaw but i didnt find the specific 32 gb trident ram i had even though it worked

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i think i saw ripshaw on there

normal brook May 6, 2020, 6:57 AM

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You should definitely always check the QVL when buying RAM for your motherboard.

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Did you return it?

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If you bought 3200 RAM and couldn't hit it, I imagine gskill will let you swap it out for a new set.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 6:59 AM

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let me check i just bought the rgn trident ram i was going to return the gskill

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i know the cl is 16 18 18 38

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Thats good,

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:04 AM

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hey y'all, i have a question on my first computer build... i just bought all components, for a full ~$700 pc build... wondering if i need to also buy the Thermal Paste? or any other product that i'm not thinking of? sorry to interrupt

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:04 AM

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f4-3200c16d-32gvk

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Thermal paste usually comes on the CPU cooler.

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Or in with the CPU cooler.

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I usually use my own preference of thermal paste though.

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Who knows what is pre applied to the CPU cooler?

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:05 AM

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ok. I dont believe I purchased a CPU cooler, since my case has 2/3 fans and its not a big time gaming rig

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:05 AM

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What CPU cooler did you get?

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:05 AM

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didn't,

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:05 AM

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Oh sorry.

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I saw that backwards.

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What CPU did you get?

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:06 AM

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went with a AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/smacherey/saved/xVLBcf for reference

custom budget build ~$700

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:06 AM

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that should come with a cooler

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:06 AM

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That comes with a CPU cooler that has thermal paste pre applied.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:06 AM

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oh sick

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Yeah.

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Just be warned, if it cures in a couple of years...

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Replace it.

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Some thermal paste basically dries up.

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You'll notice your CPU thermal throttling when it shouldn't.

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So if your computer slows down.

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Know thats probably it.

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 7:07 AM

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pre-applied paste is generally very good about NOT doing that

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Is it?

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:07 AM

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for sure, i worked in IT, have re-done a few PC's thermal paste, + dust blowing, lol. disgusting

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:07 AM

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I've personally never used it.

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Yeah, tell me about it.

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I currently have a storage unit full of roughly 200 computers.

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Lol.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:08 AM

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😮

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why tho

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:08 AM

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I bought them from my work.

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For $500 xD

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:09 AM

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are they a few years old?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Yeah.

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4-5

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:09 AM

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rough model

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HP?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Dell Optiplex 3040

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I think.

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3020?

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Around there.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:09 AM

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ayy. those are project computers for people to upgrade 8)

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Some 3020 and some 3010

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I literally have like 70 of those.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:09 AM

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I'm smelling an Ebay auction

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:10 AM

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I need too.

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I've been sitting on them.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:11 AM

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another question for you sages.
I want RGB on my computer, If i'm understanding what I've read/watched on youtube. . . I've got a MSI motherboard, so it'd probably be good to look for MSI controller / RGB that is compatible, is there any advice you guys have on that?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Do they have controllers?

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What are RGB are you trying to add?

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There are a bunch of different routs you can go.

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I'm personally looking for a ARGB controller.

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Been trying to find info on what's out there but it's difficult.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:12 AM

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MSi has a program that is pretty slick

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it seems so tough to actually get some good info, like wtf

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:13 AM

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Yeah, they have programs.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:13 AM

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and the "dragon" whatever from MSI, the website actually is broken, internal linking , 404's, etc...

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just ridiculous

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:13 AM

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It depends on how much RGB you want I suppose.

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If your motherboard has a header for RGB, you could just use that.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:13 AM

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i honestly just want some strips. i dont need fan-colors and a fricken light show, LOL

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:14 AM

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If you just want strips, and your motherboard supports it, you should be able to run off of the motherboard headers.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Depends on whether the RGB connector is 5v 3pin ARGB, 12v 4pin RGB, or proprietor (Corsair for example)

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Hei is right.

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There are different types of rgn.

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the ARGB and regular RGB.

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Two different headers on the motherboard.

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ARGB is addressable RGB.

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So think of your light strip doing a wave of color.

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VS the other RGB would only be able to do one color at a time.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:15 AM

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RGB header (12V for 5050 LEDs

found that on amazon for what my MB has

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:15 AM

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What is your motherboards name again?

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12v RGB is the all or nothing RGB.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:16 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6d9tt6/msi-b450m-pro-m2-max-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-pro-m2-max

MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

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so 12V is just flash not fade

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Oh no

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Sorry.

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You can fade.

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It's just the whole strip will be one color.

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It can do all the pulsing and fading.

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Just no rainbow effect coming off of a single header.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Only one 12v header and that's it

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:18 AM

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ahh that's fine. and then what about fan-frame RGB then, outta luck?

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not that i need it

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:18 AM

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You can buy external controllers too.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 7:18 AM

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Tho you could get some USB to RGB Controller too

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:18 AM

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That will allow the rainbow effect.

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Fan frame RGB? You can still do fans.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:18 AM

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ok, what products would those be, that would work with the MSi type of setup im going for, i think i'd wanna use their software not like 3 different deals.

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:19 AM

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It just wont have different colors all at once.

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It will be a single color.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:19 AM

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that's totally fine

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Corsairs is probably the most famous.

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They have a huge ecosystem of RGB.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:19 AM

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i dont need a pride parade i just want a slick look, LOL

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:19 AM

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It's proprietary though.

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The fan connectors only work with their stuff.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Corsair is too overpriced

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:19 AM

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It is expensive.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Their RGB fans are 2.5x overpriced

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literally

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:20 AM

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Maybe even more.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:20 AM

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see, thats the problem! i want something thats gna work with my MSi motherboard

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:20 AM

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If you look at the QL's.

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They're like 120 for 2 fans righ tnow lol.

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Do you care about having multiple different colors at once?

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:20 AM

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i've seen a lot of chinese LED strips that advertise as usable on multiple systems

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 7:20 AM

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Sorry, not 2.5x but rather 4.167x

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:20 AM

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i dont really care about multiple colors

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just interested to see what you guys know, cuz its been dead ends for me

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Haha @cursive wharf that's exactly it.

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If you're just doing two strips and don't care about the multiple colors, you have plenty of options.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:21 AM

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^ more more more

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lol

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Just make sure you don't overload the header as far as power is concerned.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:21 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/tell-me-more-share-micheal-scott-the-office-steve-carell-gif-5407074

Tenor

the office

▶ Play video

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the specific RGB header?

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 7:22 AM

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There are some decent but cheap RGB fans from say upHere

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I think there is also Edizy

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:22 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/airgoo-magnetled-agmgcl0001-multi-color/p/1W8-011Z-00001?Description=RGB strip&cm_re=RGB_strip-_-9SIAKRY9G21180-_-Product

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That was a quick search on newegg.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:22 AM

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yes, airgoo, saw that

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i've got a white case so this would be perfect

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:23 AM

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The one I sent you has magnets.

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So you don't have to use the double sided tape on your case.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:24 AM

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thats awesome. i'll make sure to leave the magnet right next to my physical drive for long periods

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jk

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:24 AM

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It's really funny, regular non PC RGB seems to be the same exact stuff.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:24 AM

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4 pin or 5, though

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cuz i could probably shave a few bucks off, LOL

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:24 AM

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I wonder if the voltage and connections are the same.

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The stuff I'm taking about comes in long strips.

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And you cut them to size.

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 7:26 AM

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depends on the leds

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:26 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Govee-Colored-Cupboard-Lighting-Adhesive/dp/B07RX57HDL/ref=sr_1_20_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=RGB+strip+magnet&qid=1588749943&sr=8-20-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzS1FaNUdIMUpaWlZIJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjc1MTk2M0pHNFdFWDdOQU5RSiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMTE2NDEyM09OTFVFSDhHU1c5OSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

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That's kinda it.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:27 AM

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i used to have those up behind my TV, when i lived above a bar, big 69 inch plasma, thing was a space heater

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:27 AM

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Looks like it's the same.

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 7:27 AM

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generally, the non-pc ones use their own power control, for the exact reason that it is easier/simpler/safer (for whatever else is potentially hooked up)

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:27 AM

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+12v G R B

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:27 AM

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it had heat waves coming off of it in the winter time, didn't mind because the heating in that building was shite

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:27 AM

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Orly?

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I do know there are limits on the headers that you want to be careful of.

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 7:28 AM

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the advantage of doing it from its own controller is that you dont risk something going wrong (to the same extent)

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:28 AM

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That is true.

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 7:29 AM

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again, depends entirely on your knowledge etc

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:29 AM

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Especially since it's probably sourced from anywhere in china.

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 7:29 AM

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and how you rate the risk

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:29 AM

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That's my only issue with it.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:29 AM

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so what kinda controllers are there, and is it USB or some pin config

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:29 AM

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The not knowing the source.

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The controllers you would use would be usb.

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They usually connect to the USB header on your motherboard I believe.

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 7:30 AM

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for the pc side, if you dont want to go with a custom programmed setup (on the controller itself), stick to one of the known brands and use their software

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:30 AM

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plenty of USB ports (4x2.0 and 4x3.1 Gen 1)
thats what a review said of my MB,

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 7:30 AM

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which will generally use a combination of usb (and sata powr) and a fan header

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:31 AM

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There's an internal usb header.

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It's a bunch of pins sticking off of your motherboard.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:31 AM

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but does that mean that those are external? i wish there was a breakdown youtube vid that just showed everything. instead of bugmen screeching about how great it is

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:31 AM

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I will find you a picture.

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It might make more sense.

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:31 AM

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i've got it up on newegg

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 7:31 AM

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@glass swift most NOT absolute bottom budget boards have access to about 12+ usb ports (of different gens)

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:32 AM

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ahh found it

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https://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll1280/13-144-271-Z50.jpg

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 7:32 AM

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also, for numbers like that, please do yourself the favour and use the manufacturers page

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thats missing a LOT of onboard labels :)

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:32 AM

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2 labeled USB on bottom,

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:33 AM

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📎 unknown.png

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:33 AM

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how about the bottom left, what are those guys

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Yeah.

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You got it.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 7:33 AM

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These ones specifically

📎 unknown.png

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For your board

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 7:34 AM

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https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-PRO-M2-MAX/Specification

B450M PRO-M2 MAX | Motherboard - The world leader in motherboard de...

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:34 AM

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could a psu from an old dell or thinkcenter power a rx 570?

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 7:34 AM

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thats the spec list

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:35 AM

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or should i stick to pci powered cards

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 7:35 AM

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As for 12v RGB header, also there

📎 unknown.png

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 7:35 AM

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@little osprey that depends entirely on the PSU

glass swift May 6, 2020, 7:36 AM

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thank you guys

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Cant just say wattage, rating, brand, etc either to say whether the PSU can or cant. Need specific model and do research on it (which cuz OEM might be hard to do)

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:37 AM

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Yeah, also, it might not have extra PCIe power cables.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:37 AM

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cause i was thinking, i7 2600, with a 570.. 1080p high detail gaming for like 200 bucks

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:38 AM

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You could always upgrade the PSU?

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:38 AM

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like a tech yes city style build

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while i wait for ampere lol

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Lol.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:39 AM

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or maybe resell

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:39 AM

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I recently watched a youtuber explain his computer resell business.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:39 AM

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why do psu's and motherbkards gotta be so hard

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:39 AM

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I had no idea people would buy used computers for that much online.

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It's crazy.

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Why are they hard?

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:40 AM

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im thinking of starting skmething like that

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cause you cant knkw if they any good unless your like a specialist tester person

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Oh. I think they have protection circuts.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:41 AM

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gpu cpu is easy

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:41 AM

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And usually wont start unless they're good.

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Most PSU's are made in the same factories.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:42 AM

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did the reseller person have a psu guy or something?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Super Flower and Seasonic are two large brands.

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Oh that guy, no he just bought parts.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:43 AM

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bulk buy of great walls or something

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Compiled them, and sold them.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:43 AM

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ah

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:43 AM

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I wish I would have went with a Seasonic PSU.

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I got a decent one though.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:44 AM

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apearently corsair cx is like the best in the world for 80 bucks -shrug-

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:44 AM

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I got the EVGA SuperNova G5 850 for like $60 after rebate.

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But then I forgot to send in my rebate. 😦

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So I probably paid like $80 or $90 for it.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:45 AM

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i never get any rebate card things or nothing

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Are you saying you avoid them?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:45 AM

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i found some good deals on ebay for used psu

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Or you never receive them after having submitted them?

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:45 AM

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no, they jjst never shown up once

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:45 AM

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That sucks pretty bad man.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:45 AM

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200 for 4 1300 watt evga

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:45 AM

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I've never not received one.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:46 AM

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plus 70 for shipping

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Omega, that's a psu that can power 2-3 machines.

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o_o

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:46 AM

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it can power a t-1000

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:46 AM

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yeah i think its ppls ming rigs

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Can it?

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Yeah.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:46 AM

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but can it power cyberpunk 2077

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Mining rigs for sure. Lol.

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I bought my server from some guy who had like 40k's worth in mining rigs.

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Was very interesting.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:47 AM

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did anyone see linus folding at home rig? used almost 2000 watts

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:47 AM

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No I didn't.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:47 AM

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2 PSUs

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2 1300 watters

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:47 AM

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That's crazy, how many GPU's?

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Who are you favorite Tech youtubers?

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:48 AM

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like8 Quadros or something, and 2 28 cores or something

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:48 AM

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Of course.

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He always has the most expensive stuff possible.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:49 AM

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apearebtly it was laying around collectinf dust for months lmao

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:49 AM

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Did you see the compensator 2020 build?

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:49 AM

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nope

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:49 AM

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He got that one weird twisted aluminum inwin case.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:49 AM

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i like tech yes city and tech deals, gamer nexus, linus is for nostalgia

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:49 AM

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The total was like 40k or something like that.

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I like Gamers Nexus.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:50 AM

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i liked maxishine alot back in the day, dunno what happened to him

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:50 AM

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I'm not a fan of the Tech YES city guy.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:50 AM

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also hardware unboxed

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:50 AM

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He's ok.

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How about the Hot News guy?

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:51 AM

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digital Foundry as well, love their optimisation vids

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never heard of em

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:51 AM

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You should check him out.

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He's pretty good for news.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:52 AM

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bob of all trades

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really good reviews on laptops

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of course tech deals is og

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:52 AM

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he recomends the 660p though :p

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:53 AM

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the intel hard drive 660p?

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o_o

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:53 AM

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m2 ssd

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:53 AM

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I wouldn't buy one of those.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:53 AM

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its not bad i hve it

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:53 AM

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They're cheap, but I bought my MP510 for 119.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:53 AM

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why wouldnt u get it

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:54 AM

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It has very little cache.

rough hornet May 6, 2020, 7:54 AM

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Uwu

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:54 AM

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It runs out of cache almost instantly.

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And is super slow.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:54 AM

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i trust his word but the a80 does seem better value, its probably just an okay drive

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i never heard of sillicone power before

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Really?

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Why has no one heard of silicon power before?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:55 AM

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alot of them share the same manufacturing partnrs

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Yes you have

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:55 AM

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and tbh, the logo sticker they put on their drives looks like .. bad

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Let me give you an image that will make you say, oh yeah...

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:56 AM

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warranty void if ugly sticker removed

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:56 AM

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https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71Go8M7u4qL._AC_SX466_.jpg

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:56 AM

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mgs4 was a masterpiece

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:56 AM

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lol

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now if only we could emulate it

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:57 AM

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mgs4?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:57 AM

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it needs a remake

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:57 AM

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nah

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:57 AM

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What's that?

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:57 AM

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metal gear

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:57 AM

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Oh.

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I was never a fan.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:57 AM

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the most legendary stealth action rpg

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:57 AM

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I liked Zelda better.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:57 AM

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rpg? lol

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:57 AM

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Yes.

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You were either on the PS MG side, or N64 Zelda side.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:58 AM

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i consider it to have rpg elemtns

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:58 AM

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every game is a role playing game

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:58 AM

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I'm just saying, they were probably the most popular game for each console.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:58 AM

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ps had final fantasy

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Yeah.

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I was just about to say.

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FF7

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But other than that next in line is MGS

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:59 AM

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i liked horror so i def like PS

mint knot May 6, 2020, 7:59 AM

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sigh when the xbone one gets released my pc will be out dated\

normal brook May 6, 2020, 7:59 AM

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It kinda sucks they're making consoles so beefy.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 7:59 AM

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mine wont :) well the gpu probly will be lol

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:00 AM

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What do you have a ThreadRipper?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:00 AM

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its crazy imagine buying all that for 500 to 600 dollars

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:00 AM

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im getting a 3700

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:00 AM

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Nice.

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I have a 2700x.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:00 AM

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oh your barely at all less then console

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:00 AM

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AMD said they would continue AM4 until 2020.

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Now that 2020 has come...

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Will they move on?

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:01 AM

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you might even still be faster than console if the cooling sucks

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:01 AM

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4000 should have am4 support

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:01 AM

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It does.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:01 AM

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but that ps5 ssd

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:01 AM

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I'm not talking about 4000.

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It's almost here.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:01 AM

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yeah 4000 will be last i think

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:01 AM

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I'm talking about 5000.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:01 AM

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5 for 5

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:01 AM

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probabalt not

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maybe i got confused the next line of ryzen is the 400 series or 5k series

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:03 AM

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next up is 4, i believe 5000 will be am5

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dunno tho

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:03 AM

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That would be a good time to switch.

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I'm skipping 3 and 4.

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Might update when 5 comes around.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:04 AM

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a 2700 will last you many years

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Depends on the IPC improvements though.

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I really wish they still published that data.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:04 AM

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as long as your near console your fine enough

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:04 AM

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You used to be able to compare IPC between intel and AMD.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:04 AM

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well the psu will not change

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:05 AM

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Sometimes I don't know what you guys are talking about.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:05 AM

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they say consoles are more optimised but through what ive seen over many years, a pc with lesser hardware performs better

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:06 AM

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Their GPU's have been crap though.

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Until this generation.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:07 AM

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like a ps3 basically had a 5770, but my 5770 made the ps3 look old as heck

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:07 AM

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does ipc comparison matter that much when they have different archtituraial designs

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:07 AM

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PS3 only had like 256MB of graphics ram.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:08 AM

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woah but 5770s had 1gb

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maybe im thinking of 360

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:08 AM

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That too was pretty weak.

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I think the PS3 was better than the 360 hardware wise.

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The PS3 had 1 8 core processor and the 360 had two 4 cores.

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:09 AM

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anyone trying to upgrade my crappy school laptop into a gaming pc for me? your boy cant work and is stuck at home with nothing because of corona 😦

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:09 AM

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i have no idea what im thinking of lol

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360 had that? woah

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so thats 3 gens of 8 core

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:10 AM

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hmm i have an alienware external gpu that im not using

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:10 AM

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what gross

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what gpu? i know the connector bottlenecks easily

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:11 AM

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The xbox 360 had 512mb of shared ram.

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@trim violet , What is your school latop?

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You might be able to use an External GPU.

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:12 AM

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an old acer predator that i bought off of letgo

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:12 AM

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What model?

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Does it have USB C?

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:12 AM

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the thing over heats in an hour and becomes unusable

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i think so

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:12 AM

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You might be able to do it then.

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I would look into it.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:13 AM

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how far does usb c get you?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:13 AM

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What's overheating? The CPU or GPU?

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:13 AM

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the whole laptop lol

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everything but the screen gets ridiculously hot

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like burning hot

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:13 AM

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is the external bottleneck gone with c?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:13 AM

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I don't think so.

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But, it will still be better than the dedicated mobile graphics.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:15 AM

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yeah, and by the laptop sounds like you shouldnt pair a fast gpu with it anyway, the external housing will cost more then the gpu lol

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unless theres cheap ones now

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:15 AM

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ive been wanting a tower for a long time but with corona virus going on now its impossible for me to get any money

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:16 AM

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damn

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:16 AM

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most of my family is out of work too so were barely hanging on

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i enter every pc giveaway i see but im pretty unlucky so i dont win

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:17 AM

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i wasnt elligable for benefits so i got on welfare, only took like 3 weeks

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:17 AM

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@trim violet Build one from scraps man.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:17 AM

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sorry to hear that though

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:17 AM

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i have no money and no income @normal brook its not possible

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i would if i could trust me

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:17 AM

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You can find computers for free one craigslist sometimes.

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on*

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:18 AM

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right now i been playing re2 on ps3 lol

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:18 AM

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What's RE2?

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:18 AM

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resident evil

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:18 AM

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Oh ok.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:19 AM

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could you afford like a 50 dollar desktop and a 20 dollar 8800gt? play old games?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:19 AM

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You could play old games.

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I'm playing old games.

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MU Online.

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Specifically.

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:19 AM

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honeslty

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i cant

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:19 AM

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would 8800gt drivers still work even lol

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:19 AM

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its that bad

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:20 AM

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You don't have any other computers?

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MU Online works on my 2005 computer.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:20 AM

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the only pc i have in the house right nkw is a 2 thread pentium from 15 yrs ago, it cant even watch twitch

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:20 AM

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No, that will do it.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:20 AM

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i sold my rig to save up lol

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:21 AM

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That's better than my 2005 computer.

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Does that thing have windows xp on it?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:21 AM

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@trim violet man thats rough

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:21 AM

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windows 10, its messed up lol

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:21 AM

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yeah

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:22 AM

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i had to dip into my roth ira and the stim check rally helped

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how do you feed ur self

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:22 AM

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Yeah, you're definitely computer poor right now my friend.

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:22 AM

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parents

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:22 AM

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I am sorry 😦

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How are you on discord rn?

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:22 AM

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my bro is getting the canadian relief, im jealous lol

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:22 AM

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i didnt get the stimulus either

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:22 AM

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o_o

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Why didn't you get the stimulus?

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:22 AM

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the laptop

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didnt file my taxes last year

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:23 AM

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File them really quick.

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Last year as in for 2019, or 2018?

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:23 AM

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19

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:24 AM

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Lol, neither did I.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:24 AM

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filing my taxes is pretty easy.. 0, 0,0, no, no, 0, no, done

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:24 AM

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I still got my stimulus check.

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Mine's the same.

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0 no no no not a vet and done.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:24 AM

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lol

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:25 AM

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if you filed for 2018 you should get it

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:25 AM

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Milk, what city do you live in?

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:25 AM

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Maybe i didnt qualify for another reason then

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idk

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:25 AM

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r u a dependent

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:25 AM

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It's really hard not to qualify.

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Even dependents got money.

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Albeit less money.

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:26 AM

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i am dependent but my mom claims me

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:26 AM

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Your parents got the money then.

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Since she claims you, she got your $600

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:26 AM

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be hard to ask ur mom for laptop money when no one is working

tranquil dust May 6, 2020, 8:26 AM

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my mom got 500 for me lmao

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:26 AM

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It may have been 500.

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Probably 500.

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My sister told me what she got for her kids.

tranquil dust May 6, 2020, 8:27 AM

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i think its 500, yeah

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:27 AM

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Was going off of memory.

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Milk, where do you live?

trim violet May 6, 2020, 8:27 AM

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FL

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:27 AM

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I'm checking your craigslist for free computers.

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You know what's funny.

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I almost got a free computer off of facebook the other day.

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I didn't pick it up cause I was too lazy.

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It was an older Phenom II machine.

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I was going to fix it and give it away.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:28 AM

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phenom 2 my first build

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with the 5770

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:28 AM

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Same dude!

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Wait.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:29 AM

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lasted me sooo many years

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:29 AM

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Phenom 1 was mine.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:29 AM

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i think we had this convo yesterday lol

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:29 AM

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Phenom 9950 I think

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Maybe.

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I still have that computer.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:29 AM

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did crysis get you into it too?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:29 AM

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It's freaking awesome.

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I could run crysis, but I can't remember if my computer was built before or after.

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Was crysis 2007?

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:30 AM

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myne was soon after

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yeah

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:30 AM

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It was.

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I built mine in 209.

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2009

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No relation to crysis though.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:30 AM

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i did too, why didnt you get a 2nd gen?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:31 AM

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2nd gen just came out when I built my computer.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:31 AM

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ah

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:31 AM

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I think I either got a deal, or Phenom II wasn't quite out yet.

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I did spend like $300 on the thing though.

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Back then graphics cards were much cheaper.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:32 AM

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1100 cad in total for me i think

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so like 800usd maybe

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:32 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/xfx-geforce-9600-gso-pvt96osdfh/p/N82E16814150320

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That was the graphics card I got.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:33 AM

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boo amd was king then tho

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:33 AM

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That was when we were switching from pixel pipelines to stream processors.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:33 AM

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or was that also right before radeon 5000?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:33 AM

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I think so.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:34 AM

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the 5770 lasted me up untill mgsv came out basically

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:34 AM

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I was never an ATI fan.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:34 AM

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30 fps mode but still lol

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:34 AM

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My computer with an ATI card in it has screen flickering issues.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:34 AM

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i dod have that too with dual monitors

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forgot how i fixed it

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:35 AM

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Back then GPU manufacturers would change the specs of the cards too.

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You would have two different manufacturers with different RAM specs.

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The card I sent you was a 512MB card by nVidia's standards.

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But that one has 768.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:36 AM

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weird

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i sold my phenom2 for 15 bucks a few months ago :(

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:37 AM

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Nooooo

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What version did you have?

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The 6 core? XD

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:37 AM

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955 black

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4

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:38 AM

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https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-9600-GSO-vs-AMD-HD-5770/m8575vsm7752

UserBenchmark: AMD HD 5770 vs Nvidia GeForce 9600 GSO

Based on 29,588 user benchmarks for the AMD HD 5770 and the Nvidia GeForce 9600 GSO, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 636 GPUs.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:38 AM

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i wonder how the 6 holds up today

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:38 AM

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That's the closest I can find to my card.

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955 black? the 1065 was the 6 core wasn't it?

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:39 AM

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no idea

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:39 AM

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Mine was the 9950 I'm pretty sure.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:39 AM

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black had better binning i think, or higher clock outa the box

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:39 AM

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1055 1090 1100 were all 6 core

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Black was overclockable.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:40 AM

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i would get it up to 3.6 but ran hot so i stuck with 3.5

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:40 AM

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https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-955-vs-AMD-Phenom-9950/2935vsm2758

UserBenchmark: AMD Phenom 9950 vs II X4 955

Based on 34,968 user benchmarks for the AMD Phenom 9950 and the Phenom II X4 955, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 1,222 CPUs.

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That computer died on me quick though.

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I think I had a bad motherboard.

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The Caps on my GPU blew for some reason.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:41 AM

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my motherboard died 3 times over a 9 year span

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:41 AM

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And I remember having to send in my mobo for some reason.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:41 AM

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was yours asus?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:41 AM

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Yes.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:41 AM

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all mine were asus

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:41 AM

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I'm an asus fanboy.

still roostBOT May 6, 2020, 8:42 AM

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Old_SnakeTwitch#8147 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:42 AM

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ASUS hasn't done me well.

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But I'm still a fanboy.

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I had a gaming computer from them too.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:42 AM

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they are for intel from what j know

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bad on amd

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:43 AM

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The little pin in the power port kept breaking off.

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That machine was intel.

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I honestly think it was my fault.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:43 AM

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I wouldnt be an Asus fanboy because company wise they arent that great

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:43 AM

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I remember accidentally ripping off one of the caps when installing it.

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It was way easier than it should have been.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:44 AM

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Cant admit mistakes and try to blame other companies for their own issues

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:44 AM

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Hei, you're right.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:44 AM

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and their gpu heatsinks are ugly

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:44 AM

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I just really like their marketing.

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the ROG stuff is really cool.

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:44 AM

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fanboi of good prices

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:44 AM

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^

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:44 AM

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I think the Strix RTX cards are the nicest looking cards out there.

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Same goes with their motherboards.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:45 AM

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i have a preferred brand for every component except motherboard lol

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:45 AM

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i'd argue the msi gaming x & z look cooler

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:45 AM

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Do you?

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I also have perferred brands.

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:45 AM

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and the strix fan blade are glued together

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:45 AM

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Name your brands.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:45 AM

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I dont care for the brand, just care about whatever is the cheapest decent option

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:45 AM

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although msi are doing oretty good on boards now

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:45 AM

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Because all brands fail at some things randomly

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:46 AM

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I used to be a one brand fanboi when I own nothing

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now when I owned something

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:46 AM

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I wouldn't buy an ASUS PSU though.

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:46 AM

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I'm fanboi of everything offering good pp

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:46 AM

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I like Seasonic foro that.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:46 AM

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evga consistantly makes great gpus, seasonic great PSUs

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:46 AM

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I own an EVGA.

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Too cheap to pass up.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:46 AM

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Seasonic overpriced PSUs

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:46 AM

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5 years ago, my dream was a full set of gears from steelseries

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:46 AM

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Seasonic is overpriced, but they're the manufacturer.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:47 AM

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their bronze lineup is well priced but yeah

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:47 AM

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So, can get the same quality for cheaper

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:47 AM

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I guarantee they're picking the best parts for their stuff.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:47 AM

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Also Seasonic bronze (S12/M12) is trash

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:47 AM

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I guess theres superflower as a manufacturer too.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:47 AM

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it is? o.O

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:47 AM

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Group regulated and lacks protections

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:47 AM

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They don't really have a consumer following directly though.

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:48 AM

#

superflower is like noctua

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kinda overpriced

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:48 AM

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Causing instability for anything more then an office PC that only has an iGPU as well as just not being as safe

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:48 AM

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but u want the best and don't care about money, u go to them

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:48 AM

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well im glad i paired it with a 1050 then... lol

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:48 AM

#

Karozy, you thinking about Seasonic?

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:49 AM

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nah

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seasonic

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I heard many negatives stuff about them

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:49 AM

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Or PSU's made by superflower, but sold under a different name?

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:49 AM

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and seasonic doesn't scream luxury into my face

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:49 AM

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Seasonic doesn't to me either.

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TBH they're kinda ugly.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:49 AM

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Also there is the Seasonic FX/PX series having GPU shutdown issues on high power GPUs

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:49 AM

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I like EVGA for looks.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:49 AM

#

they screamed realiable to me, maybe not though

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:50 AM

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evga? idk

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:50 AM

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You can never trust by brand, only by model

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:50 AM

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their vga looks awful to me

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:50 AM

#

Hei is right.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:50 AM

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Which is why Ill never be brand loyal

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:50 AM

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CPU's are definitely model based.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:50 AM

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il still vouch for evga GPUs though

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:50 AM

#

PSU*

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wtf?

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:51 AM

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well I won't say their gpus are bad

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:51 AM

#

CPU? Idk where that came from.

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:51 AM

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they just looks ugly

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:51 AM

#

There are a lot of ugly PSU's out there.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:51 AM

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i think they are the nicest looking lol

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:51 AM

#

And honestly I think Seasonic really does top the cake.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:51 AM

#

cheapest EVGA 20 series cards are usually best in noise normalized cooling perf at that price point

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:51 AM

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nah

📎 Z.png

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kinda bland

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:51 AM

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But that is about all I can give EVGA credit for

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:51 AM

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10 series as well no?

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:52 AM

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My EVGA PSU is the loudest fan in my case.

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:52 AM

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oh yeah

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:52 AM

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It's horribly loud.

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:52 AM

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the KO looks pretty good

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:52 AM

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Luckily it has the eco mode.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:52 AM

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yeah the Ko is my plan for now

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:52 AM

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EVGA also had 10 series catching fire tho

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so I mean...

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:52 AM

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evga seems to have tallent in making cut cost verions of stuff

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:52 AM

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oof

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:52 AM

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KO should only be for workstation stuff

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otherwise has poor cooling on VRMs

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and memory too I think

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:53 AM

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im getting one for gaming, would i be fine without oc?

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:53 AM

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buildzoid pcb breakdown says its memory is bad for oc

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:53 AM

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You're telling me, this card isn't the nicest looking card out there?

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https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll1280/AD7H_1_201811151803892096.jpg

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:53 AM

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but just the pcb

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:53 AM

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evga psu is great

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:53 AM

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asus cards look like bad imo

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 8:53 AM

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it would be quite nice, if people, both here and other places actually understood that all brands have both good and bad products

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:53 AM

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i have two 850s

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:54 AM

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850 what?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:54 AM

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trust them used

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850 watt

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gold

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:54 AM

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BR, G3, G5?

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B5?

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etc

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:54 AM

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@little osprey That is surprising to me.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:54 AM

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g2 maybe

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:54 AM

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@normal brook I disagree

📎 EzQ1CtWtsClSGfiU-880x660.png

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:54 AM

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its so bulky and old school looking

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:54 AM

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@foggy hazel I think we all understand that. We're just talking about our favorite brands for certain things. Fanboyism.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:54 AM

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evga black are nicest imo lol

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 8:54 AM

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the looks of the parts do not matter one single bit

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:55 AM

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it looks cool reminds me of gtx 970 gigabyte\

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:55 AM

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but it's sad lightining z line is just for top of the board vga

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:55 AM

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Looks of parts definitely matter.

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 8:55 AM

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@normal brook and fanboyism is just wasted time imo

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:55 AM

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When you want a cool looking build.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:55 AM

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Because EVGA G3 you can literally melt the caps just by overusing them due to poor protections
P2 has issues during blackouts due to hold up time/PWR_OK failing and letting voltage go below what they should, potentially causing damage to components

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:55 AM

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I don't think so.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:55 AM

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oh cmon naed they matter a liiitleee, its just last on the list

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 8:55 AM

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while rog strix design is available across the board

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:55 AM

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Fanboyism is cool. Especially when you have stuff like ROG.

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And rivalry is fun sometimes.

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 8:56 AM

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@little osprey 99.99% of the people that frequent this server are imo, much better served by aiming for performance first

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:56 AM

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well yeah, but a 50 dollar premium to make it match is understandable

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:56 AM

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EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G2 220-G2-0850-XR 80+

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 8:56 AM

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@normal brook imo, the only reason you think it is cool, is that you have not had to deal with it in a corporate setting (is my guess)

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:56 AM

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thats the psu i prefer

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:57 AM

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How have you dealt with it Naed?

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:57 AM

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But also $80 overpriced now because either EOL or just overpriced for G2

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:57 AM

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I got the G5.

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Don't get it.

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The fan is miserable.

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It's either off. Or on at 100%.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:57 AM

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Also so is perf iirc

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 8:57 AM

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big amounts of billable hours, explaining things to people that should know better.

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:57 AM

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Or at least it seems that way.

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Cause you think an airplane is landing in your back yard.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:58 AM

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u guys killed my evga psu fan boism

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 8:58 AM

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G5 issues:
-Noisy
-Poor transient response
-High Vampire Power
-Low efficiency with 2% load
-Not compatible with the alternative sleep mode
-Small distance between connectors

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:58 AM

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yeah i see in the comments ppl saying they are loud

mint knot May 6, 2020, 8:58 AM

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what is the alternative sleep mod

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mode

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:59 AM

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That comment was probably mine. xD

little osprey May 6, 2020, 8:59 AM

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off mode

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 8:59 AM

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@little osprey to start talking about "50 usd being worth the looks" you have to also keep in mind the budget

normal brook May 6, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Nvm, my comment doesn't seem to be in there.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 9:00 AM

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i personally stick to windowless cases so i dont have to worry about looks, i can just understand why people would, unless they building a 3200g with trident ram or something lol

tepid basalt May 6, 2020, 9:01 AM

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a windowless case nowadays is a rare find...

mint knot May 6, 2020, 9:01 AM

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might buy a mining rig with 5 amd 570 8gb and one 580 8 gb just to get the two evga 750 g2 psus lol its 800 bucks

little osprey May 6, 2020, 9:01 AM

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i wish the meshify c mini had a no window version

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 9:01 AM

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@little osprey its not that i dont understand the desire for a nice looking machine. But as mentioned, depending on budget, there are imo much more important things

little osprey May 6, 2020, 9:01 AM

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yeah for sure

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 9:01 AM

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@mint knot Intel tech for power efficiency afaik

normal brook May 6, 2020, 9:02 AM

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Naed, again, I think we can all agree on that.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 9:02 AM

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i dont understand

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@cursive wharf

normal brook May 6, 2020, 9:02 AM

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I always ask people if they prefer a specific brand though.

mint knot May 6, 2020, 9:02 AM

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for crypto mining or general pc?

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 9:02 AM

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@little osprey the define mini c takes that role

little osprey May 6, 2020, 9:02 AM

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i am a fanboy of fractal design cases lol

normal brook May 6, 2020, 9:02 AM

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I would want my fanboyism to be taken into consideration for GPU choice.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 9:03 AM

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mini c has meh airflow though but yes thats what im looking at

normal brook May 6, 2020, 9:03 AM

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Why not the Meshify C?

mint knot May 6, 2020, 9:03 AM

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im a fanboi of handle bars on cases

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 9:03 AM

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Alternative Sleep Mode would be used for general use cases as it benefits from the CPU being at a more idle state

mint knot May 6, 2020, 9:03 AM

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how do u enable alt sleep mod

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 9:04 AM

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@normal brook you are also, seemingly, open to debate on the topic. Now, please think back on some of the interactions you have had with fanboys over the years

little osprey May 6, 2020, 9:04 AM

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if only i could afford a buuld worthy of the define 7

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 9:04 AM

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It's not about the PC itself actually sleeping

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 9:04 AM

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"Why not the Meshify C?" <- i think you misunderstood the point of the define mini C being talking about :)

normal brook May 6, 2020, 9:04 AM

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I suppose I'm misusing the word fanboy then.

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 9:04 AM

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It's about the CPU being able to use different power stages to use less power

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when on

normal brook May 6, 2020, 9:05 AM

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The Meshify C has a a windowless version.

little osprey May 6, 2020, 9:05 AM

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they are different cases thogh one is airflow one is silence

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 9:05 AM

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@normal brook "mini"

normal brook May 6, 2020, 9:05 AM

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There is the Meshify C Mini then?

foggy hazel May 6, 2020, 9:05 AM

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nope

mint knot May 6, 2020, 9:05 AM

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@cursive wharf do you know what this means kernel_mode_heap_corruption

little osprey May 6, 2020, 9:05 AM

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there is a meshify c mini but window only

cursive wharf May 6, 2020, 9:06 AM

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Naed, that seems like a you thing right there. Im not too much into that