I got some amazing deals on my build: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Nightwielder/saved/#view=2TVy4D
Got this (except for the second monitor monitor) for $3,676.46
#building-and-recc-chat
potent prairie
sacred chasm
what
pastel briar
if you have and older devices chances they are using Wireless G @latent storm
sacred chasm
why you paying 3.6k for a moniotr
pastel briar
they meant there build
sacred chasm
Ah
potent prairie
I paid 3.6k for my whole build except my second monitor
potent prairie
The preditor?
sacred chasm
I was stupid and bought the Freesync versions of my moniotrs so I can't overclock my dells
cause I have geforce 🙂
pastel briar
though I do have to question the Intel decision, but it is your build, and if that is what you want and are happy with it, I am glad you got it!
potent prairie
I don't have preditor one yet, just the dell
But yeah I should have gone red
I didn't do enough research w/ that
potent prairie
I'll send pictures once I'm done. Gonna look epic
potent prairie
Which one?
sacred chasm
the dells
potent prairie
That backlight is sick
pastel briar
I do like that triple display set up
sacred chasm
It was a 5 dollar led strip from walmart LMAO
pastel briar
yea I am not doing the RGB thing, mainly because I wouldn't be able to decide on just one colour 😄
potent prairie
Yeah lol.
I'mma see if I can jerryrig something that still works in iCue for cheap
sacred chasm
I switched to razer just because my fans sync with them LOL
And I actually really like their huntsman elite
pastel briar
that and I would wind up trying to intigrate it into my server to automatically control the RGB functions 😄
sacred chasm
Like it has minimal branding 🙂
potent prairie
Lol. I went iCue b/c my laptop has icue integration
I respect razer.
sacred chasm
They're pricey ngl
latent storm
@potent prairie you’re spending 4.6k on a pc but can’t get some 7200rpm hard drives?
potent prairie
Only spending 3.6k and those are for storage 🙂
potent prairie
In raid 0 they'll be plenty fast w/ the two nvme as my primaries
latent storm
i’ll pretend i know what raid 0 means
sacred chasm
lol
potent prairie
Basically writing to multiple drives at once to make storage faster. Like a little bit of data on each drive
cursive wharf
oof, that Corsair stuff be so overpriced
sacred chasm
tbh all gaming gear is over priced
potent prairie
Yeah and the proprietary connectors suck. Like over $250 on fans
cursive wharf
talking also about the loop and fans
potent prairie
I totally agree but like I might as well go all the way, ya know
sacred chasm
go big or go home
potent prairie
Right lol
cursive wharf
I mean... probs could have gone 2080Ti SLI
sacred chasm
3 1440p 144hz monitors arent cheap
cursive wharf
Which I'd say is better in bragging rights
potent prairie
Yeah. But like with 3080s around the corner
potent prairie
I'll wait a few years
cursive wharf
the market has only affect a few specific PC parts rn
it actually has yet to change all too much
pastel briar
yea website search algorithms suck too... I search for SSDs and I get computers.... I put "Intel SSD SATA" and I get intel NUCs.....bashes head into stress reliever
latent storm
hey is there any reason to go with an aio for ryzen 5 3600?
potent prairie
I've heard AIO aren't all that great.
cursive wharf
Amazon has such a horrible search engine
I like how eBay has a much better one yet Im pretty sure they have much less budget
potent prairie
Yeah. eBay you can at least get rid of out of country and such
pastel briar
ehhh ebay wasn't much better, I honestly would be able to design one a bit better if I could just take the best of Google, Amazon, and Ebay and combine them.....oh wait I can I got a Fing 64 core server that I could run as a search engine box......
latent storm
i was looking into the fractal design celsius s36
potent prairie
Google shopping search sucks. Never shows any deals. Hard to filter
pastel briar
again that is why I would take the best functions from each one and build my own custom one 😄
potent prairie
Yeah. I can spend hours looking for a good deal and deciding between comparable products
stoic island
I like newegg search best
potent prairie
I'd say eBay has them beat
cursive wharf
So basically at 3.6k it wasnt all to horrible. But with current prices for those specific parts then that PC seems kinda meh for 5.6k
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nP9hx6
latent storm
why a blower card?
i thought those didn’t perform as well as dual/triple fan designs?
cursive wharf
Take note of the watercooling kit
No point in worrying over the GPU fan layout if you're just going to replace then with waterblocks
analog hearth
Why two GPUs?
cursive wharf
bragging rights
If you have the money, you might as well because it does help a bit
Also for that great dual GPU look. Like, who doesnt like them dual GPUs look?
latent storm
ah alright my bad
buoyant flame
Thats a hard flex machine
pastel briar
I can "hard flex" but I like to do it in other ways LOL
like using the 40 core server to quickly crunch numbers and data 😄
upper verge
Hello everyone
So i need some help from some of you please...
I have ordered SOME of my parts for my PC.
These and a NZXT H510i
viral ore
hmm, i assume thats what you have ordered so far
viral ore
why 2 512 instead of 1 1tb?
upper verge
This was preferred by a friend.
viral ore
ahh, so this isnt your build?
viral ore
well, its fine, not really a problem
so, you need mobo, case and psu. whats left in your budget for these parts?
and what about keyboard, mouse, and monitor
upper verge
$700
viral ore
and do you need keyboard, mouse or monitor??
sudden turret
Didn't Naed help you with the build Wiikly
sudden turret
?? tridentZ is great ram
viral ore
hes paying double
for a heatspreader
that ram is equivalent to the $84 set from G.Skill
idk what the timings are either
could be like 18 lol
welp hes offline so whatever
sudden turret
but yes, naed helped him yesterday with a bunch of stuff.
upper verge
He suggested this
upper verge
viral ore
soooooooo....... why didnt you buy this??
viral ore
it doesnt matter what you say
still roostBOT
SassyFish256#5719 has been warned
upper verge
Ya know what nevermind..
empty blaze
My build is going to be the same almost except with 2070super instead
viral ore
dope
normal brook
What does everyone think of single rank vs dual rank memory? Dual rank gives better performance, but what about with overclocking? Is single rank better at that point?
cursive wharf
depends on mobo topology. Whether it's daisy chain or T-Top
normal brook
@cursive wharf what is best for both scenarios?
Thinking about it makes my brain hurt
Logically you would think for daisy chain a single dimm per channel with dual rank would be best because of the slight performance gain dual rank gives.
I am having a hard time finding the topology for my board.
open brook
so i forgot who told me this but i bought the new msi laptop with gen 9 i7 intel cpu and he said basically why my frames are dropping during streaming its cuz not of the technology of the cpu its because of over heating i wish in 5 years they find a solution to maximize and use all the intel core i7 9th gens power with super low tempatures
mighty sapphire
Quick question! I’m doing my build and my gpu looks like it may be bent? Does anyone know if the 2070super with 3 fans looks like the far end is bent down slightly
Sorry it’s the end closest to where it hooks into the case
latent storm
where does it look bent?
mighty sapphire
Yes exactly like that @lyric thistle
ebon fulcrum
whats a good power supply? I dont want it to be too loud but also rather strong
lime forge
whats the PC specs
mighty sapphire
Okay! The only thing I have left is connecting everything to my psu. And I can’t seem to figure out which goes where. I have the tuf b450 pro and the revolution df psu
lyric thistle
if it works, next step is to test the thermals and see if it overheats
mighty sapphire
The 24 pin is obvious so I know where that one goes onto the mobo but I’m not sure if I have it right connected to the psu? The cord has two end connectors for the psu. And it also says to use the 8 pin as well on the mobo and I’m not sure where to hook that one to the psu either
lyric thistle
the ends of the power connectors should have little labels on them
mighty sapphire
They don’t 😒
The only one that does is the pcie ones and the only 8 pin one I have says cpu on it
But doesn’t fit right into the 8pin connector on the mobo
lyric thistle
is the CPU connector a 4+4?
mighty sapphire
I think so. I’m not sure honestly.
lyric thistle
it could be a bit tough to plug in
also each of the PCIe, CPU, 24pin connectors will have a clip on them (of course) and they have two different shape plugs
mighty sapphire
This is the back of the psu. And I’m guessing that’s how that one cord plugs in? And the other end is just the 24pin that goes to the mobo?
lyric thistle
they have some D shaped ones, and some square shaped ones
quick wren
the motherboard has a matching notch that that clip latches around.
mighty sapphire
Yea the end labeled cpu has two clips and it doesn’t seem to fit anywhere
quick wren
so you can use that to make sure it's oriented correctly, because the keying on the individual connectors can be hard to see
mighty sapphire
Yep I noticed the d and square shapes. Which is how I noticed the cord labeled cpu doesn’t fit anywhere on the mobo
quick wren
on most of my motherboards, if you have the back IO plate at your top left, it's usually going to be above the CPU or above and to one side
usually between the CPU and back I/O at the top of the board
which motherboard did you get again?
I'll see if I can find a picture to guide you
mighty sapphire
This is where I thought it went but the shapes don’t fit correctly
The tuf b450 pro
quick wren
that's the connector, and it looks like clip side up
mighty sapphire
That’s what I thought, but the cord that says cpu the d shapes and squares are different
It still pops in but is it okay if the shapes are different?
quick wren
if it goes in far enough for the clip to lock without being forced, it should be ok
mighty sapphire
Okay! And does it just hook to the spot by the mobo piece? Or to the separate cpu on the back of the psu?
And I’m hoping I have the other one hooked right on the back with the two separate ends?
quick wren
judging by the back of that PSU I think it can go in either one
mighty sapphire
Okay!
quick wren
it has two in case you have a motherboard that needs two separate auxiliary power connectors
just don't mix up PCI-E and CPU (EATX12V) connectors
(they shouldn't fit anyway, but they have different pinouts that aren't interchangable)
mighty sapphire
Now on the gpu I use both places on the gpu and hook the cable up to those separately?
quick wren
which GPU?
quick wren
8 pin and a 6 pin, yeah, you need both of those
lyric thistle
what do the pins on the PCIe cables look like?
lyric thistle
oh ok, that's good to go
quick wren
PCIE power cables you may find in 8 pin, 6 pin, 6/2, 4/4, or 4/2 configurations.
pastel briar
@ebon fulcrum not sure if you have already gotten a reply (discord wasn't updating) but depending on your build a good rule of thumb is to get at least 80% above your rated power requirement, some brands I have had good luck with (though most of these are either Tier 1 or Tier 2 PSUs anyways) are Corsair CX series (if I need something that fits in the budget range but gives me good quality), Silverstone, and currently run a Corsair SF 550W PSU (IIRC its a platinum)
For more on what I am talking about as far as the tier list is concerned (the higher the tier the better Tier S being the really good ones and Tier 1 being the top end, and going down to Tier 5 or 6 (T6 just stay away from these please) you can visit https://www.gamingscan.com/psu-hierarchy/ and https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/
also reason why I say stay away from the Tier 6 PSUs (note if there are any more tiers beyond Tier 6 they also are being included in the stay away warning) is pictured above. I hope this info help answer your question and sorry for the wall o' text but I figure I might as well help you get the best for your build.
quick wren
There's a wide range of them, because PCIE cards have come with 8 pin, 6pin, and 4pin power sockets and power supply makers want to fit as many of those as possible with as few different cables as possible, so long as the combined parts of it fill the slot you are trying to put it in, it should be fine.
pastel briar
They are separated
@mighty sapphire
the power connectors are both 6+2 (called 8 pin) they are correct for your GPU, one you use the 6+2 in one block and the 6 in the other and your good to go
lyric thistle
I need me a 1+1 for my GPU 😔
pastel briar
eh?
quick wren
and if you ever run into a power supply that doesn't have enough connectors, or doesn't have the right connectors, it's time to get a new power supply, if your GPU has those external power connectors, it's because it needs the extra power and can't work without it.
ebon fulcrum
@lime forge its a AMD Ryzen 5 3600, MSI B450 Tomahawk max, G.Skill Trident Z (16GB), Seagate Barracuda 2TB internal HDD, MSI GeForce RTX 2060 6GB Ventus XS OC,
pastel briar
@lyric thistle what GPU are you using??
lime forge
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i have that one
i like it
i think any of these are good? https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007657 50001402 50001459 50001697 4814 600315663 600037998 8000 600479295&Order=PRICE
pastel briar
@ebon fulcrum did you get my info about your PSU question I posted up?
quick wren
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HhvBYH <- my system as of 2 weeks ago. I was going to get a new GPU but I'm thinking as of now, best course of action is to wait for the new ones this fall
pastel briar
its all good
ebon fulcrum
thank youu
pastel briar
@quick wren yes you are correct, plus in addition to the new stuff dropping, the prices on current gen stuff should also start dropping as the secondary market starts being flooded with people wanting to upgrade
@ebon fulcrum sorry about the wall o text with it (I can DM it to you if needed) but I figured that would help answer your question about PSUs
quick wren
1060-3GB is a little on the weak side in 2020, but not so much so that upgrading is urgent.
pastel briar
indeed, I am still using my GTX 1080 (yea I know im a pleb) 6GB card 😄
ebon fulcrum
It's all good. I just wanted a good PSU that wouldnt be DUA like my last one ;-;
lyric thistle
GT 730 yeee haw
pastel briar
ouch, yea if you look at the list I posted any of the Tier 1 PSUs are good to go, lowest I would go is Tier 2 Tier 3 pushing it if your in a pinch budget wise
buoyant flame
6gb 1080?
pastel briar
yea or maybe its 8?
quick wren
(and yes, I do have two mice and two different pairs of headphones that I use with my PC)
pastel briar
now you got me wondering 😄
buoyant flame
I dont think they made a 6gb 1080, probably 8gb
lyric thistle
why not
buoyant flame
?
quick wren
different tools for different purposes 🙂
lyric thistle
is one set wired, one wireless?
quick wren
both wired.
lyric thistle
ah ok
quick wren
vertical mouse for general use, g203 to game with
lyric thistle
oh yeah I remember that
quick wren
vertical mice are good for RSI, terrible for gaming
pastel briar
its the Founders edition, and next time I have it in my system ill look it up but im pretty sure it was a 6GB model but hey if it is an 8GB unit cool
quick wren
as for the headphones, open ear headphones sound better but they leak, a lot, and they can never match closed ear for bass
lyric thistle
open ear or bust :)
ebon fulcrum
@pastel briar what are your thoughts on the Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX? sorri to be a bother as well ;-;
pastel briar
your not bothering, that is why im here to help 🙂 as for thoughts I have not many, its a good PSU anything with 80+gold is what your going to get better efficiency out of (obviously platinum is the highest), I generally try to stay with 80+Silver or better
quick wren
I still don't have speakers for this setup beyond the ones built into the monitor that have literally never been used, but I suspect I'd have to spend a fortune to have anything that would come close to the headphones.
lyric thistle
I have an iLive iPod dock
I also have a Bose Mini Soundlink
I don't use either for such a purpose
mighty sapphire
And now that I have it all built I just need to put windows on a usb drive right?
ebon fulcrum
Whats lowest to highest considering PSUs? I know the lowest is Bronze right?
lime forge
lowest is unrated
then theres 80 plus
bronze, gold platinum, titanium
i think
huh
turns out theres a silver level between gold and bronze
bronze is good for lower power budget builds, but gold is preferable for anything above.
oh well i should mention
the 80 plus program is voluntary
manufacturers dont have to participate
so if it is unrated, most likely it is not a good PSU as the manufacturer didnt care to get it rated.
but for all i know maybe its even better than titanium lol
mighty sapphire
Do I need a windows key? I don’t remember needing one when I reinstalled windows a while back onto a laptop but it wasn’t a brand new computer
quick wren
I'd suggest better efficiency and higher quality over excessively higher wattage, there's no real reason to run a 1200W PSU in a system that's not capable of pulling more than 350W.
full seal
I'd argue quality over efficiency. There's plenty of good bronze and bad gold or better units. Only real issue with efficiency that most people need to worry about is waste heat, especially if you're working in a case with bad air circulation.
quick wren
waste heat and power consumption
though how much you care about the power consumption mostly depends on how often you replace your PSU
if you expect to be using it for 3-5 years, or longer, you may find the higher efficiency pays for itself over time.
deep skiff
efficiency can be misleading, a bronze can easily be better than a gold because of the components and features like ocp
quick wren
but yeah, quality first.
full seal
I guess it really depends on how much of each day you run your PC at a high load, and if you're going to see a big difference in your power bill with that extra 5-15% draw. Absolutely makes a difference in business when you're running an office building full of them.
quick wren
right the 80+ ratings are primarily about efficiency at less than full load
but generally, if you are speccing your power supplies right, the majority of your usage is going to be somewhere between 20%-80% load, and probably more like 40%-70%
lyric thistle
@mighty sapphire
looks like the card naturally has an angled heatsink arrangement in that area
mighty sapphire
This is what mine looks like installed
cloud drum
@lyric thistle what rtx is that
vagrant gulch
Anyone know an alternative HDD for the Phanteks P300A Mesh? I bought the Barracuda, but come to find out it doesn't fit the tray...
vagrant gulch
Yes
lime forge
barracuda will fit
in one of those
you need to take off the front panel to access it
it fits both 2.5" and 3.5" in drives
vagrant gulch
Crap I can't send a pic for example.
lime forge
now you can
vagrant gulch
Oh thank you
lime forge
yep
lime forge
we restrict it to level 3, but i can tell youre not trolling.
vagrant gulch
Nah, just trying to get help
lime forge
yep
vagrant gulch
Thanks
lime forge
sure
vagrant gulch
Let me try and get the pic real quick
lime forge
alright
vagrant gulch
Yes
lime forge
there should be holes in the side of the hard drive, try to align it with the plastic pieces that stick out
dont be afraid to bend the plastic a little
it will fit, you just need to fiddle with it a bit lol. those types of hard drive cages are a pain
vagrant gulch
Ahh I see. I'll try now and let you know. Thanks.
vagrant gulch
Lmao I was putting it in the wrong way and wrong side. @lime forge
I think I must be tired from doing work. Thanks again.
lime forge
Glad i could help. 🙂
pastel briar
welp Im off to bed, night all
stoic island
Good night
mighty sapphire
What’s the best way to keep track of temps and stuff?
stoic island
@lime forge no, BIOS >:D
mighty sapphire
I’m downloading that! But how do I get into the bios without restarting?
stoic island
I'm joking about that.
mighty sapphire
Oh lol
stoic island
I like MSI afterburner for my GPU temps along with OCing.
mighty sapphire
Where do I find the normal ranges for what my stuff should be in?
lime forge
CPU and GPU should idle around 30-40, and under load no higher than 80 is preferable
quick wren
also, when you do reboot, reminder to turn on XMP at some point on your new build.
stoic island
Under 90 is safe, slightly risky, but still safe.
lime forge
^
stoic island
Idle temps also depend on room temp, and other factors, so that can vary.
mighty sapphire
Okay awesome! @quick wren what is xmp?
lime forge
XMP is a preset overclocking profile for your ram which allows it to run at the speeds that it is rated for
mighty sapphire
Oh okay! Is that in the bios?
lime forge
yes
quick wren
All the higher speed RAM requires a XMP preset (sometimes labeled DOCP)
lime forge
^
quick wren
otherwise, it will likely run at 2133mhz speeds, which on Ryzen particularly, is very bad for performance.
lime forge
when i got my RAM, it ran at 2666 or 2133 (i cant remember) but when i enabled XMP it ran at 3200 which is what i bought.
mighty sapphire
I do remember seeing docp but I wasn’t sure what it was. I can get to that in the bios by restarting?
stoic island
Yes.
lime forge
restart pc, mash the del key
(you dont really have to mash it)
but just keep pressing it till u get in
stoic island
(or f2 or f9, whichever one it is for you)
quick wren
Unless you've turned on fast boot, in which case you have to go the long way around through the windows recovery menus.
stoic island
But most likely delete
lime forge
^
quick wren
(pro tip: don't turn on fast boot until you are sure you won't have to go back into bios anytime in the near future)
stoic island
I've never used fast boot xD
quick wren
or just don't turn it on at all, it's not really much of a savings
stoic island
Yea...
mighty sapphire
Where would it show me the speed the ram is running at?
stoic island
I assume Asus motherboard?
Iirc docp is how Asus calls xmp
@mighty sapphire the ram speeds would be in the bios.
mighty sapphire
Okay perfect! I’ll check those and turn xmp on once I restart it!
mighty sapphire
Is there anything else important like that I should do?
quick wren
windows updates, chipset drivers, and BIOS update, however, make sure your power isn't likely to cut out during that process
mighty sapphire
Does that mean it didn’t work since they both still say 2133 by them?
quick wren
Ryzen performance has improved a lot through microcode update and windows updates.
mighty sapphire
Okay cool! Any idea why my sound wouldn’t be working?
quick wren
(CPU-Z will probably show the single channel speed, so don't be freaked out if it's right around 50% of the rated speed when you check there)
is your sound connected via the front panel or rear jacks?
quick wren
try the rear jacks temporarily and see if it works
if it suddenly starts working there, you didn't connect the case's audio to the front panel audio headers on the motherboard properly
mighty sapphire
Well I guess, do I need something separate to make it work through my monitor? Like do I need separate speakers or something?
mighty sapphire
Display port
quick wren
it's possible the wrong output's selected then, check your sound options in windows and make sure the output's set to displayportt
mighty sapphire
This is all it’s showing me
quick wren
that should be going to the monitor then, check the monitor's controls and make sure the monitor volume levels are ok (and not muted)
99% of the time, if you've got it routed to the right place, it's muted somewhere along the way
mighty sapphire
Every place I see it unmuted
quick wren
even the onscreen controls on the monitor?
mighty sapphire
Here?
quick wren
nope, there are some buttons on the back of the monitor
or like a little joystick sort of control there
there may be a volume control in those menus somewhere
quick wren
wait... does that monitor even have built in speakers
https://www.msi.com/Monitor/Optix-Mag241c says it does not
mighty sapphire
Umm good question I suppose 🤦🏼♀️ I would hope so but I also didn’t pick it out
Oh gosh! Gez! My bad
quick wren
it has a headphone jack, but honestly, I wouldn't use that, just connect headphones or speakers directly to the PC if at all possible
the headphone jack on a monitor is only good for if you can't reach the one on the tower for some reason.
mighty sapphire
Okay!! I was worried I hooked something up wrong lol we should be able to use the one on the computer fine!
quick wren
also, speakers on monitors are usually only barely adequate at best, so you aren't missing anything
same with ones on laptops, honestly 🙂
mighty sapphire
Good to know! I tested it with a headset so it does work!
quick wren
(built-in speakers are generally squeezed into too small of a space to work well without compromises)
mighty sapphire
To the computer tower
So better off buying them separately anyways it seems
I feel dumb haha but I’m glad I didn’t mess up something when hooking it up! I’m surprised that I haven’t at least that I’ve noticed or found yet lol
hot vigil
better quality and better choices available having separate audio speakers vs the built in ones
lean patrol
Hey there, was wanting an opinion on something. If I already have the i7 8700k is it worth it to switch to Ryzen if I wanna upgrade from the 1080 to the 2070 super? I'm thinking I might need a new motherboard though if I'm gonna upgrade instead of slapping in a new GPU
mighty sapphire
This is what this says now to in task manager so it’s good now right?
quick wren
@lean patrol I'd say probably not, unless you are going to a much higher end ryzen
that looks right for the memory speeds
lean patrol
not really. I'm just trying to get a better 1440 maybe 4k build going
I'm still rocking my 1080 FE from years ago
quick wren
Ryzen would be better price/performance if you were building today, but at least in this generation it's not going to be a meaningful upgrade for you for gaming from what you are using.
for multitasking, maybe, but not for gaming
you'd be fine to just upgrade the GPU there, assuming there's nothing else like really slow memory holding the system back
mighty sapphire
Thank you for all your help @quick wren
quick wren
@lean patrol what's your memory speed?
@mighty sapphire np, good luck with your new PC 🙂
lean patrol
to be honest not sure
quick wren
Heres the thing with the 8700K - it's already a high end enthusiast chip, and it's only a couple generations old, so Ryzen does not offer compelling advantages over it - it can match it, and on the top of the line, even pass it just slightly, but you don't upgrade your whole system for single digit % gains
so, if you were building today, you'd likely be better off with a Ryzen build because it would be a better value, but given the i7-8700k is roughly even with the high end consumer ryzen in single core performance, you wouldn't be upgrading, you'd be sidestepping.
lean patrol
So it'd be fine to throw in a new GPU?
quick wren
so, go for the GPU upgrade, don't worry about a CPU upgrade just yet, but do make sure your memory speeds are good enough, DDR4-3000 speeds are probably the lowest speeds I'd consider staying at, most new builds are better off with DDR4-3200 or DDR4-3600 memory
lean patrol
oh you mean my RAM?
quick wren
yeah
lean patrol
I have 2 of the trident Z currently on my NZXT N7 Z370 motherboard
I believe they are GDDR5X if I remember correctly
quick wren
GDDR5 is pretty much exclusively for GPUs and consoles
trident z comes in speeds from 2800 to 4600 if I'm reading their website correctly
quick wren
CPU-Z, or looking in BIOS
quick wren
ok. well, we know that the slowest DDR4 speed for Trident-Z is 2800, and that you are well below that, which means you never turned on XMP in your bios, and your memory isn't even running at the speed it's supposed to.
lean patrol
I've never messed with Bios stuff
quick wren
so, congratulations, you get to have what may be a fairly large performance upgrade just by rebooting, going into your bios settings, and finding the option to turn on the XMP profile so that your memory actually runs at the speed it's supposed to.
So, to fix it, you'll want to reboot, and you'll have to quickly press a key to get into BIOS settings, most likely the DEL or F2 key on most BIOS, but look up your motherboard's manual if you aren't sure.
and then somewhere in there you'll find the setting for XMP
lean patrol
Ok so I turned it on. How do I check if it worked? All I did was load the XMP profile and put the Bios on performance mode. Didn't even know that was a thing
quick wren
you'll be able to see it in CPU-Z as well as in task manager
lower right corner, it says what speed its running at
lean patrol
oh neat. It says 2133 right now. not sure what it was before though
quick wren
2133 is stock speed before loading an XMP profile
in CPU-Z, you'd see it on the memory tab, but remember that show's the speed of one channel not the combined speed
lean patrol
so it didn't work I guess
quick wren
There may be something else you have to click there in the bios to actually select and activate the profile, or you may not have saved the changes
You can also check the SPD tab in CPU-Z to see what the actual profiles are, usually the last one will be the XMP profile:
in my case, 1800 = one half of a dual channel DDR4-3600
lean patrol
ok so my XMP-2300 says 1600
quick wren
k, it's DDR4-3200 memory then
now go back to BIOS and see if you can get it to actually run at DDR4-3200 instead of DDR4-2133 🙂
lean patrol
it says XMP Profile 1 3200 frequency
quick wren
try clicking that and see if it selects
or see if there's a button below it with a selection between 3200 and 2133
might take you a few tries to figure out what options need to be selected, but once you find the right thing, it will show as DDR4-3200 in windows
which, is enough of an improvement over DDR4-2133 that it might actually improve your game performance by a LOT
I've got to go to bed, but someone here should be able to tell you exactly where the settings are and the correct way to set them if you know what motherboard you have
lean patrol
yea I've gone in 3 times and it still says 3200 yet it doesn't reflect that.
open brook
so i watched a couple videos today for arounnd 7 hours and i was looking at high end cards at the highest level to some budget cards also streaming on a desktop vs laptop and basically its kind of a long story but in short i found a video that summarized evertyhing for me it was that the highest card on the market is a 2080ti and at ultra settings there was a comparison video where it was the regular 2080 2080 super and a 2080 ti and at ultra settings all the cards were barely getting 68 to 60 fps on max settings at 1080p so what i found out was that recently ive said this but my graphics card died so i bought a msi laptop and i thought to my self if the best card in the market is getting 68 frames on the maximum settings in battlefield 5 that means that i need to turn down my settings on my games on my new laptop and as soon as i did that the dropped frames stopped i also looked at getting an app called afterburner im still new to it and new to computers as well but what amazed me was that the most highest expensive card can barely get 70 fps on maxmimum highest resolution rendering settings all i wanted was to get into a stream that my laptop didnt drop frames so the solution was to turn every single game to the lowest setting the awkward thing is that at ultra settings on all games i get high fps but when u loook at the stream health u get 49 dropped frames and stuttering inside your cell phone when your watching the stream so ive come to conclusion that getting the highest gaming pc of 5000 dollars will give u 0 drpped frames and decent frame rate but u can fix your laptop if u just dont turn on the settings ultra even though ingame it shows 100 plus frames on ultra or im not sure im very new to computers but i ran out of ideas
pastel briar
@lean patrol in your bios there should be a item specifically labled XMP (May need to refer to manual for more information) that would be what you would need to set for the change to take effect
open brook
does any onne knwo what indication on msi afterburner to look at that shows the cpu is to hot to give it the natural numbers of the cpu spec like i watched a video where it shows you can check your llaptop specs online and find the base clock and boost clock but as soon as you heat it up or power or something thats when you drop frames is it called limit no load and limit power? is that the indication when it says power that means ur guna drop frames?
foggy hazel
@open brook do you get why i said the 2080Ti is overrated now?
open brook
yes
i been researching for like 14 hours on the solution lol
but i stopped gettind dropped frames on my laptop turning off all settings the thing thats wierd is that with ultra settings ingame i get high fps but when i stream it drops frames so i tried turning down my settings on low then stream and i got 0 dropped frames even though ingame the laptop is capable of high frame rate at ultra settings
foggy hazel
a FPS counter will generally only show you 1 aspect
which is why frametimes etc are quite important if you want to understand things :)
open brook
yea im trying now the 2nd step to learn indications of msi aftterburner and meanings of base clock and boost clock a video suggested that the manufacturers of the laptop should always be giving the speeds its been given so if by anytime it stops giving that power it means that your cpu is over heating or something is going on im still trying to figure it out
foggy hazel
its not a small subject that you have started on :)
open brook
yea lol true
little osprey
hello everyone just asking what type of ram i can install on the MSI MPG X570 Gaming Pro Carbon WIFI motherboard Socket AM4 ATX AMD X570??
little osprey
ok ty
pastel briar
Good morning @foggy hazel (afternoon for you) stretches
foggy hazel
likewise @pastel briar
fathom silo
okay so how do i tell what case i needa get bc all the full tower cases are ugly and i want a mid tower but idk if things are gonna fit
how do i tell
pastel briar
@little osprey what cpu are you using? Iirc that should be DDR4
foggy hazel
@pastel briar that chipset is ddr4 only.
tranquil dust
x570 but it uses ddr1
foggy hazel
@tranquil dust no need for jokes like that here.
pastel briar
@foggy hazel ok cool, still waking up so haven’t had my get up and go drink just yet 😄
foggy hazel
:)
tranquil dust
xd
little osprey
at this moment im using a X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM amd 1700
foggy hazel
@fathom silo look for ATX support
little osprey
upgrading
pastel briar
@little osprey I would suggest 3200 or better (3600 (will look to see what I have if needed) seems to be the “sweet spot”
fathom silo
so if i get a mid tower with atx support it will be okay?
foggy hazel
@little osprey depending on how fast your current ram is, you dont need to rush that part of the upgrade
pastel briar
Remember Ryzen benefits from faster speeds
little osprey
3600 looks good to me
foggy hazel
@fathom silo based on you not telling us anything about the mainboard you have. That is the safe bet
little osprey
well im trying to get the ryzen 9
fathom silo
GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS ULTRA LGA 1151
foggy hazel
that is a ATX board.
pastel briar
I alas back up @foggy hazel statement @little osprey
foggy hazel
stock standard ATX
fathom silo
so everything will b clear? fit right? does my gpu need to be worried about?
cus i want an nzxt case
pastel briar
As long as it (the case) says that it will accept ATX size boards yes
foggy hazel
@fathom silo please remember what you just went through :)
@fathom silo details details
pastel briar
checks tracking info YAY tracking says my memory for my server should be (hopefully) arriving today or tomorrow!!! 32GB of ECC goodness 😄
exotic aspen
With what’s going on right now it could be a day early or a day late depending on the carrier
pastel briar
yup, that is why I said hopefully 😄
but either way at least I know it is in the city I live in, now only if they offered the ability to go pick it up......
marble shuttle
@foggy hazel, Just got my replacement processor in the mail for the boot problem I've been having
foggy hazel
going to be interesting to see how that turns out @marble shuttle
pastel briar
@marble shuttle YAY!
marble shuttle
@foggy hazel, booted up with both rams and showing 16GB
How can I check that it's running in dual channel on MSI?
pastel briar
@marble shuttle how many slots does your main board have (2, 4, or more?)
I am going to assume 2 or 4 for this
if 2 slots, as long as your populating both slots then your ram will be in dual channel mode
if you have 4 slots you may notice if you look, labels that read A1, A2, B1, B2, if you put the sticks in A1 and B1 you will run in dual channel mode (putting both in the same "channel" will hinder performance UNLESS you are populating all slots), hope this helps ya
marble shuttle
I've got it, thank you
pastel briar
cool 🙂
glad that I was able to help ya, if you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask
pastel briar
@little osprey it kinda depends, I can take a look if you don't mind giving me some time to do so, I personally tend to shy away from prebuilt systems because I found most tend to upcharge labor (which I expect) and over charge for the parts (again I get this to a degree but not if its close to price gouging levels) for generally weakish hardware, but if your not comfortable building a PC there are a few prebuild companies that are decent and who arn't out to price gouge
all I really need from you are the following items
1: absolute max budget you have to work with
2: use case scenario (gaming, video editing, general work, ect)
3: most demanding game you plan to play
quick wren
As far as that particular prebuilt, at least from what I can see in the picture: Both a 1650 and only 8GB of memory already sounds weak even in the 600-700 range. Also that's a midrange Intel chip which is never a good idea in 2020
Making compromises it probably doesn't have to make, and using more expensive parts where those parts don't help.
yeah, I was right, and the DDR4 memory is DDR4-2666
AND ITS RUNNING IN SINGLE CHANNEL MODE
yeah, please, don't buy that prebuilt
silk estuary
What liquid cooling system (preferably that's in stock) would y'all recommend for an NZXT H510 elite? Below 200 if possible, please
pastel briar
Corsaid H101 (I know they have updated it some and changed model numbers at one point, so i'm not sure if it is still called that, but that or Lepa currently have a Lepa 120 on one of my other rigs and that has been in use since roughly 2015-ish
silk estuary
What size radiator?
pastel briar
120
silk estuary
Feck, I'm looking for a 240
pastel briar
that is the one I have, i m certain they also will offer a 240 as well, the system I have only had the space for a 120 set up (smaller case)
pastel briar
yes, like that
depending on the size you need just search for <brand name> < size needed> AIO (All In One cooler)
so for example Lepa 120 AIO
stoic island
I'd like to recommend the Arctic Freezer II.
pastel briar
I can't personially say anything on Arctic Freezer as I never used that one
stoic island
I'm recommending it for performance, and the price.
silk estuary
Seems like it's got good reviews
stoic island
Gamersnexus does some AIO reviews.
buoyant flame
How's this list look for a flashy gaming and light streaming build? I also need a psu recommendation
Also i selected that mobo because it has wifi, if you have another suggestion for a board that has wifi at the same price im all ears
stoic island
its good
RM 750w is at a fair enough price
EVGA supernova G3 650w is also at a fair enough price.
pastel briar
looks find to me, only thing i can think of is if you go with Crutial instead of the Silicon Power you have listed you can save some money if you want to
stoic island
P1 is QLC and slower, I'd rather have A80 for 10$ more.
buoyant flame
ya that's why i picked it
thx for the imput
i might as well pick the 750w over the 650w for 5 bucks more right?
deft zephyr
uhhh there is no meme
stoic island
Yea
buoyant flame
was that yes to my question @stoic island
stoic island
mhm
sudden solstice
Ryzen 5 3600 and sapphire pulse Radeon RX 580 is a good combo right ?
@stoic island
pastel briar
sigh not my server is wanting to be a little bish.......added more memory got it resolved there, and now it wants to complain that the boot drive that it has always booted from with no issue is no longer accessible (bsod), uuug this is annoying me
rustic swan
Hi people of the Discord
pastel briar
hello
rustic swan
Im looking to upgrade my ram and am curious if I can buy a dual channel kit now(32gb) and the buy the same one later to run in quad channel @ 64gb? Does anyone know if this is possible or do I need to buy a quad kit...
Hi @pastel briar
buoyant flame
@stoic island sorry for all the pings. So basically my friend has determined that he wants an intel build despite all my input so i compiled a list that would be comprable in performance to the one you saw earlier. Would you mind looking over it for me?
silk estuary
Heck that's a lot
buoyant flame
he thinks it has better performance. don't actually waste your time tho because i think im finally bringing him around
i just had to use a lot of big words 😉
pastel briar
@rustic swan just to make sure I understand your question correctly you want to do the following
buy kit 1 at 32GB now then at a later date buy an addition 32 GB memory kit of the same type?
rustic swan
@pastel briar yes thats correct going from dual channel to quad channel
pastel briar
@rustic swan you will be fine
austere condor
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N63Ck6
made some progress on the sponsorship rig
realized i didnt have a few parts i needed, waiting for them to show up
buoyant flame
dang wth is that monster
wooden hawk
Nice
austere condor
will post photos once the build is 100% done
pastel briar
very nice
wish my server was behaving right now (i think it is an OS issue as the boot partition I think got fubar'd)
wooden hawk
What you think about an I5-9600k and an Rx 5700xt, 16gb ram
stable smelt
@wooden hawk i would say sick-o-mode system
you could get more bang for buck with something like a ryzen 5 3600 and a nice b450 motherboard. ( same gpu and ram it would be cheaper than the intel with the same gpu and very very close in gaming
pastel briar
and you have a better upgrade path
rustic swan
Hey guys can I use the Gskill Neo ram on an intel cpu?(F4-3600C16Q-64GTZN)
stoic island
Yes
little osprey
you guys know any good cases that can fit ROG Dominus Extreme i been looking for a while now just can't seem to find one
sudden turret
Enthoo Elite
foggy hazel
@rustic swan which intel CPU?
pastel briar
Yay finally got the stupid boot issue solved now to install a new Linux install
@foggy hazel I put in the two new stocks of 16gbx2 and it now boots
foggy hazel
:)
pastel briar
Yes I is happy
wispy plume
Hey, I'm building a new set up. I was talking to the newegg support and they couldn't help so they referred me here.
Would anyone be open to providing some feedback if I post what I'm thinking?
stoic island
Might need to DM it to one of us, since you can't post links until level 3 on this discord
stoic island
On the behalf of @wispy plume
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hcBVqt8gY4nclgca6OFPCzZufH2ICMgV7tfd_lBcYwY/edit?usp=sharing
wispy plume
Thanks Mr1111
stoic island
First, I'd suggest you use https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
It makes things much easier
stoic island
also shows stock, pricing, and which sellers sell the cheapest
wispy plume
Ah
That's nice
ty 🙂
Give me a few mins and I'll set that up
Didn't know about that site
Looks good
stoic island
It's very useful.
sudden turret
sometimes I wonder who runs newegg chat -_-
stoic island
Mike
stoic island
We make better techies >:D
stoic island
we gotta get paid
sullen spoke
Pay me for keep server active
stoic island
employ us plz
sullen spoke
Definitely not e begging
stoic island
I have uh
oak moss
@tidal vault what case you get?
stoic island
months of experience in discord
sullen spoke
I have been in this server for uhh idk how many months
wispy plume
Okay, done with the build through that site
pastel briar
@wispy plume I would suggest going with AMD as your offered better price to performance currently, and unlike Intel it offers you upgrade paths, meaning if you want to upgrade the CPU you can continue using the ram and main board unlike Intel where if you decide to go with a new upgraded CPu your looking at getting new ram and mainboard at the same time, just a thought for you
wispy plume
But, it doesn't allow me to add multiple graphics cards?
Oh
I see
Let me get the link
Hang on
tidal vault
@oak moss The NZXT H510
oak moss
@tidal vault nice!
stoic island
On the behalf of @wispy plume
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/beetree/saved/#view=Z4bDcf
wispy plume
thanks Mr1111
stoic island
I would also suggest an AMD build
pastel briar
for example when the new Ryzen CPUs drop as long as they are on the AM4 socket (more then likely they will be) I can go from my Ryzen 2700X and jump into the new Ryzen 3X series with out having to get new ram and mainboard
stoic island
and I would STRONGLY suggest against dual GPU or multi-GPU
wispy plume
Now, there should be 4 graphics cards. Not sure if that would fit?
sudden turret
amd just be kiling it lately 🙂
wispy plume
Well, I'm going to have 15 monitors on this set up
So, I need multiple graphics cards
wispy plume
I'm a developer
My current set up has 12 monitors
Let me find a pic so you get an idea of what I'm trying to do
sudden turret
I'll go ahead and update your role so you can post
cursive wharf
So what is the full use case of this?
sullen spoke
Amd yummy
stoic island
Wait, so what's the full budget?
wispy plume
Well, I need it to work
wispy plume
I can't spend unnecessarily, but it'll be fine
sudden turret
well
stoic island
yea
sudden turret
we'd make it the best possible for your situation
sudden turret
not going say yeah just get 4 2080ti hurhurhur 😄
stoic island
What's' the budget?
cursive wharf
I mean couldnt you do less with larger ones, 21:9 or 32:9?
sullen spoke
Woah, so many screen
lime forge
what the-
wispy plume
With these stands: https://vivo-us.com/products/stand-v003d?_pos=1&_sid=64d149e16&_ss=r
lime forge
that is a wall of monitors
sudden turret
it's pretty amazing.
sullen spoke
I like screens
stoic island
AMD should also be better for like a 3900x at the same price as a 9900k
sudden turret
what is your current PC setup
stoic island
Just because of more cores processing everything on each screen
cursive wharf
depends on the task
cursive wharf
it is apparently workstation and some workloads can be heavily Intel optimized sadly
wispy plume
Not sure if I get banned for pasting this. I guess we'll find out:
still roostBOT
beetree#8429 has been warned
wispy plume
Yeah
sudden turret
not banned
wispy plume
"warned" 🙂
sudden turret
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130935 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117649 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233892 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487250 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811352029 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156068 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438010 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186058 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3BG16C7864 https://www.amazon.com/LG-32MA68HY-P-32-Inch-Monitor-Display/dp/B01IA9FXAO/ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAC334WA3184 https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Mouse-Large-Computer/dp/B003NR57BY/ https://www.amazon.com/Skyzonal®-Office-Computer-Armrest-Support/dp/B019LM6Y02/
wispy plume
That's the current set up I have
cursive wharf
wow, lots of links
wispy plume
Yeah, sorry
sudden turret
x99 ❤️
wispy plume
I guess, starting with the motherboard is where the complications starts
So, I need 4 graphics cards
I was thinking MSI MEG Z390 GODLIKE EATX LGA1151 Motherboard
stoic island
wow
wispy plume
But, I'm not sure if it'll fit
wispy plume
$4-5k
cursive wharf
im wondering tho, what about 21:9 or 32:9 meaning less monitors?
sullen spoke
Ok box, above the law I see
wispy plume
What is 21:9 and 32:9? Sorry, not sure what it means?
pastel briar
aspect ratio
wispy plume
Ah
sullen spoke
Ultra wide
sudden turret
Crazy Plane do your magic.
pastel briar
IE screen width
cursive wharf
aspect ratio for monitors. Every 9 inch in height is 16 inch in side by default (16:9)
sudden turret
get this man a 14 monitor PC 😄
wispy plume
So, that monitor stand can only fit 3x 32 inch if the VGA fits are in the bottom
It's only rated for 27 inch, but I know it works larger.
And, it's not easy to find monitors with the VGA fittings at the bottom
And, ideally at a reasonable price as it's 15 pieces of it
It doesn't have to have high resolution though
sudden turret
your monitors, they have hdmi output at least?
or will they all need replaced too?
stoic island
couple of those eh
wispy plume
I'm looking at AOC C32V1Q
cursive wharf
sudden turret
cause if they're all vga... you won't find current gpu's to hook that up
cursive wharf
VGA is also sometimes just the broad term for video ports
sudden turret
trueyeah
wispy plume
VGA, sorry
cursive wharf
but also that one old video port
wispy plume
Whatever the mount holes are called
cursive wharf
any video port, or the actual VGA port?
sudden turret
vesamounts
wispy plume
The VESA mounts need to be at the bottom of the screen, otherwise it's not possible to fit three monitors on the desk mount
cursive wharf
now, there is replace all the monitors with really wide ones like posted above to have less total monitors with around same screen real estate...
sudden turret
just curious, what are you developing the requires 14 monitors 😄
wispy plume
I'm running my own business
sudden turret
right on 🙂
wispy plume
So, it's full stack, meaning I'm doing lot's of development "in parallel" you could say
sudden turret
gotta have one for minecraft though I see
wispy plume
SCEPTRE C305B-200UN, not sure where the VESA mounts sit on that one. But, if it's right behind the standard mount it's too high to work on the stand
The minecraft business was the last one 🙂
sudden turret
lol
wispy plume
Now I'm working on a new business. Online food delivery 🙂
cursive wharf
Also what specific workloads are you doing?
wispy plume
I run some code locally
Run 1-2 virtual machines
A database local
Build server local
So, it's various jobs that run. Some requires disk, some cpu, some memory
No graphics though.
cursive wharf
What you need to do is look at the tasks individually and see if they are Intel optimized by a lot (note: some tasks will advertise as being Intel optimized but only gain very little perf, kinda just end up being a lie)
because if not, AMD is a better choice
Due to getting 1.5x more cores/threads of the 9900k for the same price as the 9900k
wispy plume
I doubt there's anything Intel specific
Was just trying to read about running virtual machines, but seems AMD is just as good on it
cursive wharf
Also note that you wont be able to run SLI, only mGPU (multi GPU) with four cards
wispy plume
Yeah, I don't need SLI
I didn't even plug it in on my current set up
Like, I never put in that extra cord or whatever it was
cursive wharf
I think that's mostly all I needed to go through
wispy plume
Okay, thanks!
With the last I built, it was real tricky to fit four cards into it
That to me is the scariest part. Just making it fit
Also, this m.2 stuff is a bit new to me. Not sure how that works with everything else
cursive wharf
wow, having four x16 slots is expensive
only one board has that on AM4, being $650
wispy plume
Yeah, motherboard is the hard thing I think
cursive wharf
Tho then again, if you arent hitting the GPUs hard you dont really need all slaves in x16 slots. Can run some of them in x1 slots
wispy plume
Yeah
sudden turret
gpu now a days are a lot better in performance too
wispy plume
I see
cursive wharf
You can do probs a bit more with the PC if need be
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cHq39G
cursive wharf
good for very specific use cases. Most of the time overpriced
Such as trying to use four physical x16 slots
foggy hazel
just curious, but why 4?
cursive wharf
do note that the GPUs will probably run slaves at x4 and master at x8
15 monitors
might also be worth getting one real good GPU and 3 meh GPUs
foggy hazel
just get a 6 or 6+ output card
cursive wharf
dont really know much about GPUs with lots of ports
wispy plume
Which card would you suggest Naed?
foggy hazel
individual screens?
cursive wharf
wispy plume
Hei, which graphics card are you suggesting? I don't see it in the "System Builder"
Yeah, that's my current set up. 4 years old though. New one will be 5 wide, 3 high.
cursive wharf
not an amazing suggestion as Naed has better
but I was saying to get four 2060 Supers
That's what that was
foggy hazel
you wont find this in pcpp @wispy plume
its a bit "outside" of the regular consumer stuff :)
wispy plume
Yeah, but I don't think there's a better place to get help 🙂
What's a "2060 supers"? Do you have a link to that?
foggy hazel
he means, 4 individual nvidia 2060 Super cards
cursive wharf
pastel briar
plural of 2060 Super
foggy hazel
as for suggestiong, i will get to that in a bit :)
cursive wharf
was what I was saying
foggy hazel
do you need accelerated output of any kind?
wispy plume
Something like this: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER DirectX 12 RTX 2060 SUPER GAMING X 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Sorry Naed, I'm not very well versed in this. What do you mean by "accelerated output"?
cursive wharf
Having a program use the GPU instead of just the CPU
foggy hazel
do you need a card that can push a bunch of 3D work?
pastel briar
its all good, that is why we are here to help you 🙂
cursive wharf
from my understanding it was mostly CPU/memory/disk stuff
wispy plume
No, no need for any advanced graphics
Yeah, only cpu/memory/disk
The other route one possibly could go is something like this I guess: Visiontek Radeon HD 7750 2GB 900614 GDDR5 6M (6 x Mini DP) Video Graphics Card
foggy hazel
okay, then something like a Q185 can do the trick
wispy plume
Do you have a link to a "Q185"?
wispy plume
I would still need four of that card though
wispy plume
I was kind of thinking that some regular nvidia card would be "easier" and "more compatible" then some of these more "exotic" multi-monitor cards
Oh, I see what you mean
So, this card makes multiple monitors appear like one monitor to the system?
wispy plume
Amazon and Newegg doesn't even have it though
I fear "driver hell" and me configuring things for days
foggy hazel
again, this is the simple solution (in my head)
lets move on to the next solution
the 6display one i opened with
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foggy hazel
and that is before we start talking about MST hubs
wispy plume
What's the model number on that thing?
wispy plume
It can run 6 screens?
wispy plume
This looks real interesting
foggy hazel
the MST hubs might be the smarter solution for you
wispy plume
Do you have model number for that?
foggy hazel
mst hubs?
wispy plume
🙂
foggy hazel
nah, its a type of hubs
foggy hazel
think... splitter for displayport
wispy plume
So
If I have four screens into one of these hubs
Then, to the rest of the system, these screens will appear like one screen, right?
The issues with this is that I never want to "maximize a window" across four screens
foggy hazel
they could
wispy plume
I want an editor on one screen, a terminal on another, etc
And, I don't want to have to drag windows to "fit" to the physical screen
foggy hazel
if you "just" want full screen apps on each screen
wispy plume
Exactly
foggy hazel
windows key + arrow up <- is your new best friend
wispy plume
But, with one of these "hubs" I would think that if doing that it would fit the app across the four screens that are on the hub
foggy hazel
no
wispy plume
... because "windows" thinks of the four screens as a single screen?
foggy hazel
no, only if you tell it to
foggy hazel
windows wiill see it as X number of screens
wispy plume
I mean, then these hubs is a super cheap way of doing all of this, right?
foggy hazel
and a LOT more practical
aye, as long as you are not trying to run crysis on each single display
that seems to showcase it close enough
that you can get a clearer understanding
with that said, any other questions @wispy plume ?
foggy hazel
you are very welcome :) feel free to ask in the future, and if you think there might be a quirky solution to it, just do a @ for me on the question
wispy plume
🙂
Will do
Thanks!
I'll take another stab at all this, and then possibly check back in tomorrow
... with a new pcpartpicker link
foggy hazel
best of luck :)
wispy plume
Thanks everyone for helping me!
foggy hazel
i am going to crash for now :)
wispy plume
You do that 🙂
lyric thistle
I was concerned for a second before I realized you meant sleep lol
Sleep well Naed
wispy plume
🙂
tidal vault
what do I need to put together a build other than the parts??
stoic island
Screwdriver is all you'll need usually.
stoic island
Some zipties are nice for cable management
lyric thistle
Most parts on most computers go together with screws or nothing
tidal vault
alright just making sure
unborn solar
so 70-80 bucks to put a 500gb SSD in my old Dell e521 with 3 gb of ram and an nvidia card... It is already running windows 10 just slow I believe due to the hard drive. Will that SSD in your opinion breathe new life into it? I don't like being wasteful and it is just used for work, email, social media, online browsing. Nothing heavier than that.
stoic island
I believe a SSD would do it good, if you want SSD suggestions, we can give you some.
unborn solar
I am looking at one on sale on newegg silicone power ace 2.5 512 gb
along with a sata cable and bracket
opal ocean
Anyone have any recommendations on PCIE USB 3.0 cards? Looking to expand.
lyric thistle
I am using a WD Blue 3D NAND 500GB 2.5" drive in my computer
I bought it for 65 USD, and it's pretty good
You should get 300MB/s speeds, as the board's SATA controller is SATA II
I think it's possible to get the 600MB/s SATA III by buying a PCI card, if there are expansion slots that would fit such a card
I haven't used any such thing @opal ocean, but here's a search page on Newegg for that
https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=USB+3.0+PCIe+card
There are some for PCIe slots to put ports out the back of the computer, Mini PCIe cards for front panel USB, and more
unborn solar
@lyric thistle oh wow.. I did not realize my board would reduce the speed of a SSD hard drive...
lyric thistle
While it is a reduction in speed, 300MB/s is still higher than any decent 7200rpm hard drive iirc
unborn solar
ah I see how would I research what to buy?
lyric thistle
I'm not sure what you mean