#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 500

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 7:48 PM

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up there

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:48 PM

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First thing why 2 ssds

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Mm 1 m.2

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and one just because I want a lot of games

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Yeah 1 nvme and 1 states ssd

tranquil dust Apr 19, 2020, 7:49 PM

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why not 2 ssds

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Well get a hard drive

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 7:49 PM

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@sharp perch no

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:49 PM

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I mean you can get cheaper nvme

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 7:49 PM

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One hundred more for the ssd isn't a big deal

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:50 PM

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And if you get 2 m.2s you can use it as a faster style so you can make your own ssds faster by having them go sort of idk what is it called naed

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 7:50 PM

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@raw igloo any special reason behind the actual parts, that we need to know about?

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 7:50 PM

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White color scheme

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 7:50 PM

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@sharp perch no, you cant.

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Future proof for a while

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:50 PM

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There was something to make it much faster

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 7:50 PM

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not like what you are rambling on about no.

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I heard it from a worker at Linus tech tips

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 7:51 PM

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A 2 tb M.2 is expensive

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Nah not 1

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But 2 different

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Ones

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 7:51 PM

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The Mother board doesn't have enough space

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I think idk

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 7:52 PM

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@sharp perch what you might be talking about is caching, the kind we do in the serverspace

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but that is not relevant for the consumer space

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and again, it wont make the machine actually "feel" faster

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:53 PM

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K

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 7:53 PM

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@raw igloo at a quick glance, the build is about 300-ish usd overpriced

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 7:53 PM

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What you mean

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Yeah I see it to

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Well you can get cheaper parts for the same performance

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Like what

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:53 PM

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@foggy hazel will explain:)

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 7:54 PM

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oh no, you had to comment

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Oh

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 7:54 PM

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so you can sort that out yourself @sharp perch

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:54 PM

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I thought you were gonna say that

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Lol

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Well let me take a quick glance again

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 7:54 PM

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People are overpricing the graphics card

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sold out

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Like 150 less

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Is there a reason why you chose 32 gigs

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Of ram

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Lol

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Idk

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:56 PM

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I mean not gonna lie Nvidia’s GPU’s are fine

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Cheaper and reliable

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 7:56 PM

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is the Cpu a mistake

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Well you already have it don’t you

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 7:56 PM

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friends amd ryzen 7 is like just as good

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ik but for future

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Well yeah but than you need another motherboard

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 7:57 PM

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"I mean not gonna lie Nvidia’s GPU’s are fine
Cheaper and reliable" wrong

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Okay naed give me some sarcasm:(

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I only bought the Cpu I can change the rest

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 7:57 PM

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no need, you are doing that fine on your own @sharp perch

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Okay I’m bad at this but if you want you can say what you think I just wanted to say what I think

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 7:58 PM

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aye, which is fair :)

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just correcting what is wrong

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 7:59 PM

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K but don’t say that I don’t wanna help because I wanna help people here to:/

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 7:59 PM

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@raw igloo the main "problem/difference/challenge" with the AMD vs Intel question is this: They excel at two different things

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and how people value those two things gets confused a fair deal by the people talking about it

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 8:00 PM

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?

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What two things

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:00 PM

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on the intel side you have single cores being silly fast (to some extent)

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but it comes with a hefty price attached

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 8:00 PM

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He means amd is cheaper and has more threats depends on which on and intel is more for performance correct naed?

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Yeah im 550 down

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:01 PM

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on the amd side, you have a lot of cores and "close enough for 99.9999% of people" performance for a fair amount less

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Amd is more stream and intel is performance

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:01 PM

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@sharp perch not quite

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its a lot more complicated than that, if you want to get nitty gritty about it

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but there should not be a need for that here

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 8:02 PM

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I have a full list of builds lol

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 8:02 PM

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The one I got is 8 core 16 thread

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 8:02 PM

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From performance to looks

raw igloo Apr 19, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Will it be hard to build?

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:03 PM

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let me just grab a 2500-ish amd build list

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Il get one to if that is okay?

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@foggy hazel:)

tranquil dust Apr 19, 2020, 8:03 PM

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i dont see why it wouldnt be

umbral moon Apr 19, 2020, 8:04 PM

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i know i already had a pc part picker list and like you think i’m not serious about any of this but is a i9 9900k better or an ryzen 9 3900x better

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Depends

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KdtQGc

System Builder

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This is 2k for amd

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Again this build isn’t mine

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YGw7vW

System Builder

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This is more for looks

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@raw igloo

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:08 PM

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@raw igloo https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yMRQgJ

System Builder

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just a random build thrown together

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a fair amount of the mainboard cost comes from the integrated Wifi

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instead of the separate card like in your list

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 8:09 PM

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And look what mister did lol picked a nvidea gpu what a surprise:)

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:10 PM

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why wouldnt i?

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 8:10 PM

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No hard fealings naed

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I said nvidea gpu is also good and you said wrong to me

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:10 PM

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if you are talking about a build at that budget, for gaming, that is your only choice at this point in time.

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Look at my builds

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:11 PM

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@sharp perch "cheaper and reliable"

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 8:12 PM

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So what do you think is it good?

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:12 PM

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please read and dont just make up what you think i am saying.

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@wicked berry trying to post a build?

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Yeah ?

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:14 PM

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send it to me in a dm, and i will post it for you

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Cool

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:14 PM

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your lvl is not high enough, which is why it is being snagged by the bot :)

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Ahh makes sense

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

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when your name goes "blue", you can post links yourself :)

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Cool

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

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on behalf of @wicked berry https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/yQPRRk

System Builder

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Good idea on a big server like this

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

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aye :)

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for those that want to comment on @wicked berry 's build, keep in mind, it is a AUS based one.

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so availability and prices are going to be bonkers

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and that is the normal state of things

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:16 PM

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I did get a really beast of a PC but it was in USD it was like 3k XD

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:17 PM

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:)

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what you have there is not a bad machine at all

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but standard question is this: any special reason for the tomahawk?

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Yeah I got some help with the parts

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No someone suggested it

stoic island Apr 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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(Looks like tuf b450m pro is out of stock in Australia rn)

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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it has been out of stock over there for the last ... 4 months or so :)

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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I was close of doing it all my self but my CFS made me to tierd so a guy gave me a hand

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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CFS?

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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If I can say something

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Chronic fatigue syndrome

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:20 PM

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ah

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:20 PM

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No :p

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Wait till the covid 19 stops and get you’re parts than because right now the whole economy is going down

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Yeah I probably will

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:20 PM

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@wicked berry you got a need/use for wifi?

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and what is your audio gear? usb or minijack?

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:21 PM

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It would be nice but my pc will be right near my modem so.

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:21 PM

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fair, have to ask :)

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Have you guys seen the new WiFi router from asus

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:22 PM

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what about audio?

sharp perch Apr 19, 2020, 8:22 PM

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It’s now got rgb they can’t stop putting rgb on anything or they go nuts:)

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Ahh Dame I forgot what the plug is called the Round one that gose in to phones XD well some phones

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:23 PM

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mini jack

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Like I would not mind messing around with like a sound card or something later on but for now 2k is good XD

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:24 PM

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reason i ask is that it should be possible to get mainboard with a soundchip that is not horrible

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at your budget that is

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Oh really 😏 I do like nice sounds

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:25 PM

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because the specific mainboard you have only really excels at overclocking

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and even at that, it is, imo, highly overrated

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and very overpriced

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

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At this point the parts are just there for a guide so if you have any suggestions please do send them

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I'm on vc if you want

foggy hazel Apr 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

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i can join in a moment :)

wicked berry Apr 19, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Oh wait how do I do push to talk on phone XD

plucky lily Apr 19, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Is the corsair rmx 850 from 2018 still good? Also, does it matter that the seller is in Canada and I'm in US. Is anything different?

buoyant flame Apr 19, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Ya thats a good psu but probably not needed at that wattage

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As for the Canada thing I believe that it should be the same but I'm not certain

plucky lily Apr 19, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Thanks! I'm looking at one on ebay but the seller is in Canada. I'm going to have to figure out that out

stoic island Apr 19, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Ebay PSUs aren't ideal...

plucky lily Apr 19, 2020, 9:51 PM

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It's listed as brand new

stoic island Apr 19, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Never opened?

strange garden Apr 19, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Is it worth upgrading from an 8700k to a 9700k

stoic island Apr 19, 2020, 9:55 PM

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no afaik

plucky lily Apr 19, 2020, 9:55 PM

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@stoic island yeah. So I should be able to register and be covered under warranty?

stoic island Apr 19, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Welll

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I'm not too sure about corsair, but It gets iffy since you didn't pay for it

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How much is it?

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because I would rather get something new if it's close to the cost of a new RMx psu

plucky lily Apr 19, 2020, 9:57 PM

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$139, I don't know about shipping yet

stoic island Apr 19, 2020, 9:58 PM

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... I would suggest just buying new

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What's your PC specs?

plucky lily Apr 19, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Why can't I post a link to my build? Am I still too new here?

stoic island Apr 19, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Yea...

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you can dm me the link though.

tired knoll Apr 19, 2020, 10:01 PM

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U have to wait till ur name is blue

stoic island Apr 19, 2020, 10:01 PM

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And corsair warranty is non-transferable.

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still roostBOT Apr 19, 2020, 10:04 PM

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iHumanoid#4166 has been warned

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plucky lily Apr 19, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Thanks @stoic island

latent storm Apr 19, 2020, 10:07 PM

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hey @foggy hazel i noticed you mentioned that the phanteks amp is going to be hard to find, do you have any suggestions for a replacement ?

stoic island Apr 19, 2020, 10:07 PM

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@latent storm I would suggest this https://www.amazon.com/Enermax-Revolution-Certified-Supply-ERF650AWT/dp/B07PB67ZS7/

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@plucky lily

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pinged wrong person but still works

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Revolution D.F. is higher on the tier list,

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and most PCs that aren't multi GPU don't need more than 650w.

latent storm Apr 19, 2020, 10:08 PM

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wow that is a lot of money

plucky lily Apr 19, 2020, 10:08 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4gbB9G

System Builder

latent storm Apr 19, 2020, 10:09 PM

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oh so you rich rich

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your gpu costs more than my entire system 😐

stoic island Apr 19, 2020, 10:09 PM

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lol me too

plucky lily Apr 19, 2020, 10:11 PM

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😂 No not even close to rich. I've just been saving. And since I've just been sitting around gaming I decided to finally pull the trigger.

stoic island Apr 19, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Then I would suggest this
https://www.amazon.com/Enermax-Revolution-Certified-Supply-ERF650AWT/dp/B07P6SJJN6/?th=1

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750w

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while 650w would do just fine for you

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with the amount of money you're willing to spend, might as well get some more.

latent storm Apr 19, 2020, 10:12 PM

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i’m working a mf minimum wage job to try to get mine 😳

plucky lily Apr 19, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I'll check that one out. Thanks man

stoic island Apr 19, 2020, 10:17 PM

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If you're wondering, the tier list I'm using is in the pinned messages.

cursive wharf Apr 19, 2020, 10:24 PM

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@plucky lily RMx 2018 an okay PSU. However as an 850w PSU, it isnt ideal realistically. To give you a scale of what a standard PSU can do, you can run a stock 3950x and 2080Ti off a 550w easily. A PC that'd need an 850w would be an HEDT CPU with dual GPU. Basically multi thousand USD PC. PSUs price should scale with the PC price so you can get premium things like multi rail or manual OCP setup, better quality all round, etc

plucky lily Apr 19, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Thanks for the info. I was basically going off of something I watched or read recently that said psu's efficiency is best at around 50% usage. So that's why I was looking at 850's

stoic island Apr 19, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Hei, the reason for 750w is with that build already having a 2080ti and a high end lga1151 board, I'd rather have them still have good oc headroom even with the new power hungry 10th gen Intel chips.

cursive wharf Apr 19, 2020, 10:47 PM

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seems fair then I guess. Pretty sure 9900k max OC with standard high end cooling is usually about 250w, 100w more then 3950x
@plucky lily Yes, tho it's only about a 2% efficiency difference between 50% usage and 95% usage for most PSUs. Could be better spent on saving the money for whatever else there is, or getting a quieter PSU, PSU with better performance (voltage ripple/regulation, transient response, etc)

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which, instead of getting a decent 850w (RMx) you're now getting a pretty good 750w (DF)

plucky lily Apr 19, 2020, 10:49 PM

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So you would also recommend that Enermax 750?

cursive wharf Apr 19, 2020, 10:51 PM

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yeah

plucky lily Apr 19, 2020, 10:57 PM

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@cursive wharf @stoic island Thank you both so much!

slender solar Apr 19, 2020, 11:03 PM

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@strange garden nah i dont think so

stoic island Apr 19, 2020, 11:16 PM

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You're welcome.

cursive wharf Apr 19, 2020, 11:21 PM

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welcome

woeful agate Apr 19, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Hey guys

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My friend needs a 500 cad budget pc

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Hell just be using it for gaming

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Please halllllpppppp

tidal sky Apr 19, 2020, 11:40 PM

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whats the diff between these 2 cases

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https://www.amazon.com/NZXT-H210-Management-Water-Cooling-Construction/dp/B07NY28MZW/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=nzxt%2Bmini%2Bitx%2Bcase&qid=1572414721&sr=8-3&th=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=10_30_19-20&linkId=bf5e78d6f7e04af8e52d73ade3446631&language=en_US

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https://www.amazon.com/NZXT-H210-Management-Water-Cooling-Construction/dp/B07TD9TKKZ/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=nzxt+mini+itx+case&qid=1572414721&sr=8-3&th=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=10_30_19-20&linkId=bf5e78d6f7e04af8e52d73ade3446631&language=en_US

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if anyone can help me with this id greatly appreciate it

lime forge Apr 19, 2020, 11:45 PM

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literally just the decals

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its the same case, just different prints on the outside

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oh wait

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nevermind

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the h500 is a ATX Mid case, the other one is a mITX case

sullen spoke Apr 19, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Overwatch theme

lime forge Apr 19, 2020, 11:46 PM

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the links both said h210 soooooo

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but upon clicking one of them is a h500

sullen spoke Apr 19, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Yup

tidal sky Apr 19, 2020, 11:50 PM

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what do the H210 and H500 stand for

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like whats the diff

lime forge Apr 19, 2020, 11:51 PM

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its just the model number

tidal sky Apr 19, 2020, 11:51 PM

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oh but there basically the same ones

weak arrow Apr 20, 2020, 1:08 AM

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I’m looking for a 600w psu no ketchup and mustard cable 60+ bronze for 50-70 dollars send a link if you know one with those specs I listed thanks 🙏

fast dust Apr 20, 2020, 1:11 AM

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EVGA 600 GD?
It’s 80+ gold and I believe you can get it for around $70

If not, though, what about the EVGA 600 BQ? Not the best quality, but it’ll work

weak arrow Apr 20, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Ok thank you

teal bison Apr 20, 2020, 1:14 AM

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cx 2017 550 depending on what the price is right now, its been fluctuating due to the virus

glacial tendon Apr 20, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Hey guys! What's up?

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Just wanted a quick recommendation about my gpu

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 1:23 AM

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What do you mean?

glacial tendon Apr 20, 2020, 1:23 AM

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I can either do a crossfire with my Radeon 270 (really old, I know) for around $100 on ebay or buy a new 5500XT

weak arrow Apr 20, 2020, 1:23 AM

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How do I turn on ray tracing on my pc

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Accioly what is your budget right now?

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Crossfire is not very well supported, and I believe that card is pretty bad even in crossfire.

glacial tendon Apr 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Imagine that I'll spend $500 with GPUs for the next 20 years

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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So... What are you willing to spend now?

glacial tendon Apr 20, 2020, 1:25 AM

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If you tell me a GPU will be good for the next 20 years I can spend $500 max

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Or if it will be good for the next 10, $250

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Nothing can last 20 years... I'll take a look at whats good right now for ~250.

glacial tendon Apr 20, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Thanks Mr1111

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I saw the Radeon 5500XT for $220

silver lichen Apr 20, 2020, 1:27 AM

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GTX 1660 Super runs abotu $240. Best value for the money

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 1:27 AM

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I'd get the GTX 1660 super right now.

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But if you wait a bit, they're rolling out gddr6 to all the GTX 1660 supers right now, which increases performance by a good bit.

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nvm they're already gddr6

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But I would still suggest 1660 super, heres one for 240.
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GeForce-192-bit-Support-Graphics/dp/B07ZHDZ1K6/

glacial tendon Apr 20, 2020, 1:30 AM

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That looks great! Thanks guys

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It makes sense when two people answer the same thing at the same time

silver lichen Apr 20, 2020, 1:31 AM

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*GDDR6 in the 1650 Supers.

glacial tendon Apr 20, 2020, 1:34 AM

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I'll go for it... I don't wanna repeat the same mistake I did by buying a DDR3 memory card because my mobo is old... Maybe in the future I'll do a new build using my ssd and GPU 😄

silver lichen Apr 20, 2020, 2:13 AM

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I just did a new system a couple months ago. Ryzen 5 1600AF, Asus Prime B450, 16GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance, Thermaltake Contac Silent cpu cooler and a Thermaltake case fan. Spent ~$310 on all that.

Re-used my Corsair Carbide 200R case, Antec Earthwatts 600w PSU (maybe 650, i forget), Kingston 512GB 2.5" SSD, GTX 660 video card.

Love the build. CPU doesn't get much more than 45C when gaming atm. I'm saving up to get a GTX 1660 Super to complete the build.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Hei I need help

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Or someone lmao

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I have a single stick of 16gb 2666mz should I over clock it

little leaf Apr 20, 2020, 3:15 AM

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your not running at dual channel?

cold sorrel Apr 20, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Good grief, now the Ryzen 3600 is out of stock

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:25 AM

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no i have on stick of 16

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im gunna buy another stick but for now should i overclock it?

compact hill Apr 20, 2020, 4:42 AM

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if it overlocks no point in not

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overclocking ram isnt very hard

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:48 AM

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what do u mean

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oh ok

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idk how tho like its 2666 like how much do i go

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Guys I need help rn

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I think I’m in the bios but idk, idk where I am

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Laptop or desktop

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Take a picture

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Desktop

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Ok one sec

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Do I now hit f10 to go to bios?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Yes

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Ok now where do I go

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Take a picture?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:16 AM

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I want to overclock my ram

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K

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compact hill Apr 20, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Prebuilt mobo might not support overclocking

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:22 AM

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wtf

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so I can’t

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:22 AM

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They usually allow ram

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Check configuration

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:22 AM

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how do I do that lmao

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Oh u wanna pic?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Check the tabbed named "configuration"

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:23 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Damn

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Wtffffff

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is it my ram or motherboard

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Well. That's another reason not to go prebuilt I guess

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I'm assuming bios

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Motherboards don't lock you out of ram oc, I've never heard of that happening.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:25 AM

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So I can’t do anything

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Do some quick research on Google about if anyone has done it on that prebuilt

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Ugh ok 😦

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i dont think i can

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i literally dont kno what to do with my pc its so bad i have an 2080 and it runs like crap

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Maybe link the exact prebuilt and maybe someone can outline a plan to upgrade it to be less crap

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Might sleep soon

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Okay

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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/omen-by-hp-obelisk-desktop-intel-core-i7-8700-16gb-memory-nvidia-rtx-2080-2tb-hdd-256gb-ssd-hp-finish-in-shadow-black/6285801.p?skuId=6285801

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If someone could help me out I would seriously appreciate it

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^

vagrant aurora Apr 20, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Would there be any type of bottleneck if I use a Ryzen 5 3600 with a Radeon 5700xt? Good combo?

little osprey Apr 20, 2020, 5:48 AM

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No

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Very little bottle neck in most games

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:05 AM

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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/omen-by-hp-obelisk-desktop-intel-core-i7-8700-16gb-memory-nvidia-rtx-2080-2tb-hdd-256gb-ssd-hp-finish-in-shadow-black/6285801.p?skuId=6285801
If someone could help me out I would seriously appreciate it

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with finding new/better parts for me to part out and buil

little leaf Apr 20, 2020, 7:04 AM

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@unkempt ibex ok I have a few recommendations

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Have you benchmarked your pc to see if any of your components are under preforming

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Oof you got that prebuilt

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Personally I would’ve built it because its more price effective

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For the amount you spent on the pre built you could probably have a betrr pc

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Id also recommend making it dual channel though it wont show major increase in fps

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I also recommend trying to use intel xtu

vagrant aurora Apr 20, 2020, 9:23 AM

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What mini ITX motherboard would you suggest? Something compatible with Ryzen 3600 cpu

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Honestly, I feel the limiting factor is probably still the ram. You could swap that single stick out for these, faster speeds, prob better latency, and dual channel.
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231941

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@unkempt ibex

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Other than that, there's no good "small" upgrade you can do to make it run smoother

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The GPU seems good

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Mobo and CPU are good Enough

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Maybe another nvme drive or something could speed it up more, but that doesn't affect performance, just load times.

compact hill Apr 20, 2020, 2:37 PM

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You dont really need the faster ram

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It's an intel chip

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Intel chips do too up to 3200mhz.

compact hill Apr 20, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Just buy another stick so its fuel channel

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Lemme see if I can find a source

compact hill Apr 20, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Duel*

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 2:38 PM

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dual*

compact hill Apr 20, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Oh lol

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I'm saying that it wont effect performance that much

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Intel chips don't benefit much above 3200mhz, but Ryzen does at ~3600 mhz and above

compact hill Apr 20, 2020, 2:38 PM

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For the price of another kit

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 2:38 PM

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I saw a case where a person had 10% or more improvement in frames from switching from 2400mhz to 3200mhz ram

compact hill Apr 20, 2020, 2:39 PM

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I thought he has 2666

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 2:40 PM

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2666 is pretty close to 2400

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they're both pretty low

compact hill Apr 20, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Yeah it might be a worthy investment

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I would get a new cpu cooler for sure

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 2:41 PM

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huh

compact hill Apr 20, 2020, 2:41 PM

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That ones a stock

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Probably doesnt even have a copper bottom

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 2:42 PM

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wait

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god damn intel

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they prob have one of the worse boards

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so 2666 is what they're stuck with

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dual channel still works.

sullen spoke Apr 20, 2020, 2:43 PM

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z370 or nothing

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 2:44 PM

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CPU cooler would still be a good investment

compact hill Apr 20, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Yeah so buy another stick of ram

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And get a better CPU cooler

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@unkempt ibex

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Maybe like a NH-U12s

woeful agate Apr 20, 2020, 3:40 PM

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yo guys

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my friend needs a 2000 cad gaming pc for gaming/editing/recording

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at 1440p

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please config

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 3:42 PM

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@woeful agate 2000 cad including monitor or no monitor

woeful agate Apr 20, 2020, 3:43 PM

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nope

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no peripherals either

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 3:50 PM

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alright

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@woeful agate
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y7TwK4

System Builder

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I would put in a 3600 but it's out of stock

woeful agate Apr 20, 2020, 3:57 PM

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kk

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nice thx

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do i need to add any fan hubs or fans?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 3:58 PM

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nope

woeful agate Apr 20, 2020, 3:58 PM

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ppl said that silicon power is slow

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or is it good

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 3:59 PM

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It's good

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slower than like a 970 evo ofc

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but it's still a fast drive

woeful agate Apr 20, 2020, 3:59 PM

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kk

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:00 PM

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The case has a fan controller

little osprey Apr 20, 2020, 4:00 PM

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i need build under $800
or pc complete
?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:01 PM

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@woeful agate you could get another fan if you want to

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but it's got 3 rgb fans in the front

woeful agate Apr 20, 2020, 4:05 PM

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yea i know

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i kinda want a rear fan

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ml120 or something

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:06 PM

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you could

cold sorrel Apr 20, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Darn it... I should probably at least just go ahead and order my case, drives, and keyboard while I wait for my motherboard and CPU to come back in stock

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I mean, it's not going to hurt them to sit in a box in my house while I wait for the other parts, is it?

silver lichen Apr 20, 2020, 4:07 PM

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@little osprey all new parts? anything re-used in it?

little osprey Apr 20, 2020, 4:08 PM

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no

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yes collect all new parts
@little osprey all new parts? anything re-used in it?
@silver lichen

cold sorrel Apr 20, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Or maybe I'll just order the case and keyboard. It's not likely anything wacky is going to happen with motherboard form factors in the next few months.

little osprey Apr 20, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Or maybe I'll just order the case and keyboard. It's not likely anything wacky is going to happen with motherboard form factors in the next few months.
@cold sorrel i new for pc i just need pc a good one for gaming

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:11 PM

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everything is out of stock rn

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its so wacky

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no good 1660 super in stock

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or 2060

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Just use this,
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bxgXWb

System Builder

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until 1660 super is in stock

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like this one
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Gaming-Backplate-06G-P4-1068-KR/dp/B07ZHZL2JB

Amazon.com: EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Super Sc Ultra Gaming, 6GB GDDR6,...

Buy EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Super Sc Ultra Gaming, 6GB GDDR6, Dual Fan, Metal Backplate, 06G-P4-1068-KR: Everything Else - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

cold sorrel Apr 20, 2020, 4:16 PM

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This is the build I was aiming for, but everything is disappearing from stock on Newegg:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wznnCL

System Builder

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:17 PM

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it's sad

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2060 ko is out of stock too

little osprey Apr 20, 2020, 4:19 PM

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why ThinkingEgg

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:19 PM

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people are buying it up

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and the production has stopped

cold sorrel Apr 20, 2020, 4:19 PM

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I'm still contemplating to just go ahead and order the case, the SSD, the hard drive and keyboard. Those parts can just sit and wait on everything else coming back in stiock

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:19 PM

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you could

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 4:24 PM

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have some patience

cold sorrel Apr 20, 2020, 4:26 PM

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I have to admit, I like the case and worry if it goes out of stock it'll just vanish for good. Much like those RGB fans I really liked.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 4:28 PM

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what people (generally) consider vanishing for good is the following: Something goes out of stock for the 1-2 months that they remember to be interested in that product.

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as i said, have some patience

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:29 PM

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do i need to get a new motherboard?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 4:30 PM

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@unkempt ibex if this is still the same conversation from the other day? then i believe the conclusion was no.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:30 PM

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yeah lmao

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:30 PM

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The one about OCing.

sudden turret Apr 20, 2020, 4:30 PM

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-_-

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:30 PM

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ok cool any recomondations ona cpu cooloer?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Well actually, first you might want to see how the temps are on your stock one.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 4:30 PM

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@unkempt ibex i have one recommendation for you: Focus on what was talked about the other day first

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:31 PM

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(ram?)

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 4:31 PM

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because i am fairly certain that was covered too

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both ram and cooler

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Side note, you think this is one of the older mobo that restricts ram speeds to 2666mhz?

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I can't quite find the mobo in it from googling

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 4:33 PM

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it could be

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but i do know that IF he asks customer support about it. they will tell him the max ram speed it supports

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Because at first I was suggesting 3200mhz ram, because I didn't realize some intel boards limits to 2666mhz

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 4:34 PM

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so, the general theme is like the previous conversation today, patience :)

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Like always, a thing I lack :D

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:35 PM

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bu tif i get new ram could i overclock it or no

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:35 PM

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If it doesn't let you now, it wouldn't let you later.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:38 PM

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oh so i cant

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if that bc of my motherboard?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:39 PM

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I believe so.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 4:40 PM

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@unkempt ibex start by fixing your ram

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and please read that as it is written

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not as a recommendation to OC anything.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:43 PM

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ok so im gunna buy the 2 i got the link for

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:43 PM

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wait

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Link it again?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:44 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231941

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Actually wait

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:44 PM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 4:44 PM

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eh?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Do you have CPUZ?

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(for checking for motherboard, then check max ram speed)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:44 PM

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what is cpuz lmao

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oh

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 4:45 PM

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https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

CPU-Z | Softwares | CPUID

CPU-Z is a freeware that gathers information on some of the main devices of your system :

			Processor name and number, codename, process, package, cache levels.
			Mainboard and chipset.
			Memory type, size, timings, and module specifications (SPD).
			Real time mea...

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left side, zip english

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:46 PM

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That might be worth to pin :p

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:46 PM

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theres 4 files whihc one do i extract or what ever

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or open

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Left side, zip english

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:46 PM

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ik

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ill get a pic

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:47 PM

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📎 unknown.png

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:47 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

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Yeah after I hit that

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Did you extract it?

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if you did

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CPUZ x64

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Did you open it?

sacred swallow Apr 20, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Ive got the H510i. Im trying to find fans to replace the two that came with the case. Im going to keep the stock configuration (two exhausts, one top 140mm, one rear 120mm. Does anyone recommend good quality fans to replace the OEM ones?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:52 PM

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well

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I believe H510i doesn't have great airflow

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so it might be worth going for the pressure oriented arctic P12 and P14 fans

sacred swallow Apr 20, 2020, 4:54 PM

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yeah i wasnt sure if i needed pressure or airflow fans. all the videos i watched just confused me more

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:54 PM

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ok i have it up imma take a picute

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:54 PM

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WarfareT click the "mainboard" tab

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:55 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:55 PM

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yea thats what I needed

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The chipset is H370

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Doesn't support overclocking, and max memory is 2666mhz.

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Can you click on the memory tab?

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and take a screenshot of it?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 4:57 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 4:57 PM

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aye

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 4:57 PM

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oof it's prob worth in investing in lower latency ram

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brb

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Naed, do you think it's worth still going for the ripjaw kit, even if it can't at it's full potential? Just for if the build is upgraded one day?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:00 PM

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no

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that system is "weird" enough as it is

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Fair enough

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What do you think about this?
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164203

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:03 PM

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a single 16 stick should do the trick

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:03 PM

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oh right

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Well naed my thought was invest in lower latency?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:04 PM

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@unkempt ibex could you take a picture of the "SPD" tab in cpu-z

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(Mr1111, that shows the part number, if possible, for the ram)

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Oh really

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I see

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If I search 16gb cl19 its just filled with a bunch of different listings for this stick...

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foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:05 PM

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aye, give it a bit

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:06 PM

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I just find it funny

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:06 PM

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lets see if he gets back with a picture :)

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:06 PM

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theres like 2 pages of just that stick

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https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007952 600082361&d=2666 cl19&page=1&order=PRICE

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:06 PM

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:)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:06 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:08 PM

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hmm

📎 unknown.png

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:09 PM

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aye, this is why i wanted the SPD picture :)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:09 PM

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i sent it right?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:09 PM

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2*8 it is

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Yea...

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:09 PM

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yes, and thank you for that @unkempt ibex

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:10 PM

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This would be my suggestion.
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164203

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:10 PM

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aye, seems solid enough

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:11 PM

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so i buy those?\

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:11 PM

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yes

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that is our recommendation

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:11 PM

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could i sell my old ram then?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:11 PM

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you could try

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:11 PM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:11 PM

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but i doubt anyone but someone else with a Omen would want it

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it really is not very good ram

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:12 PM

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idek what exact ram it is

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i think i saw it on ebay not too sure

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:12 PM

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just nod your head and say yes :)

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it doesnt matter :)

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Well, now you have the part number, you could include that in the listing

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:12 PM

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so when i get my new ram i tak ethe old one ou and just stick the other 2 in?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:12 PM

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yes, out with the current single stick, and in with the 2 new ones

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:13 PM

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ok

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Just a warning, it might not boot right away and take a bit to train the memory.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:13 PM

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ok

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isnt that ram the same speed?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:13 PM

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technically no

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:13 PM

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It is, but lower latency.
Edit : Same frequency, lower latency.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:13 PM

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practically, no

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"big number wise"? yes

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:14 PM

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should i just get a new motherboard then

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or not worth

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:14 PM

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It's a lot of hassle and money to spend

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:14 PM

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going with a new board is not that simple for you

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:14 PM

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yeah but my motherboard already sells for 240

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:14 PM

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because of the custom nature of the Omen

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:14 PM

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oh

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:15 PM

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(PSU and case)

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:15 PM

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thankfully its a m-atx board

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but PSU wise .. no idea about their setup

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:15 PM

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okay

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:15 PM

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https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/h7IAAOSw08dd833o/s-l1600.jpg <- this is the mainboard btw @stoic island

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it is a very .. spartan .. board

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Huh

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:16 PM

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i mean i could sell it

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but idek how to take out eveeything and all that

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:16 PM

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It's a lot of hassle for not a lot of gain right now.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:16 PM

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@unkempt ibex for now, buy the ram, get the ram, install the ram. And then we talk about how it performs after that.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:17 PM

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okay

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and my pc is loud and hot

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should i also get a better cpu cooler or more fans

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Maybe both.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:18 PM

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uhm alright i saw a cpu cooler is was like one fan its hard to describe but it was liquid cooled

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Wait

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:19 PM

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lets stop you right there.

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you are NOT going water cooled

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:19 PM

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wait why

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:19 PM

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because it has an impact on things around it

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:19 PM

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ok

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Unconventional board, and bad rad support I assume?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:19 PM

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that board screams "made for one type of cooling"

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and the current cooling throws air across the board

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Oh damn I just noticed

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No vrm heatsink

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That depends on airflow over them

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:24 PM

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so what should i get fab wise

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fan*

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Do you know the size of the case fans?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:24 PM

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no let me check

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:25 PM

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80mm, 120mm, 140mm, etc?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:25 PM

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i have no clue

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i looked at the product information and it didnt say

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:25 PM

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I mean take a look inside?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:26 PM

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would it say on the fan haha

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:26 PM

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sorry to dump this on you @stoic island (but dinner prep calls), reviews of the unit should/might also give you the numbers

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IF there is a product/model name on the fan, then yes @unkempt ibex

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I'm currently eating lunch rn that's why lol

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:27 PM

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i do not see anything on the fans

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Can you take a picture?

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Maybe I can quickly take a glance, and look it up when I finish eating

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:28 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Just 1 fan?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:29 PM

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and a stock cooler

oak moss Apr 20, 2020, 5:36 PM

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aye what headset is everyone rocking?

buoyant flame Apr 20, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Bose soundlink

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Corsair HS60

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@unkempt ibex for now, I'm gonna assume that's 120mm

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:37 PM

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corsair void pro

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Because that's all I can find

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:37 PM

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ok

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:38 PM

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So I'm just gonna suggest some nice Arctic F12s

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Cheap and effective

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:38 PM

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ok

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how many?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:39 PM

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And CPU cooler wise, that might depend on clearance in the case.

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How many can you fit in the case?

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Is there anywhere you can put fans on the front?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:39 PM

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ill take a icture for your judgement

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📎 image0.jpg

oak moss Apr 20, 2020, 5:42 PM

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@stoic island how are the HS60’s?

slender ore Apr 20, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Hey I got a question about my pc I have a pc that has a nvidea gtx 1050 ti is possible that I can upgrade to a nvidea gtx 1060 by any chance

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:43 PM

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stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:44 PM

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They're pretty nice @oak moss. Only complaint is that the wire is pretty short

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@unkempt ibex ok can you take a picture of like the front?

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@slender ore need more information, Laptop or desktop? Prebuilt?

oak moss Apr 20, 2020, 5:45 PM

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how short is it? just plug and play?

slender ore Apr 20, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Alright one sec

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Yes

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It's fine when you're sitting down

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But for my config at least, with the headphones plugged into rear IO, I can't really move around wearing the headphone like standing up

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It might be better just to show you

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:46 PM

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slender ore Apr 20, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Ok send the info u need now

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Huh

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:46 PM

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huh?

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that is one effed up design

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:47 PM

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@unkempt ibex you can get 2. One on top and one exhaust

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:47 PM

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What do u mean of the front?

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slender ore Apr 20, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Its has a amd ryzen 5 2400g and a 14gb or ram

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Link maybe?

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@unkempt ibex I looked it up, you can fit a fan on top, those panels can come off.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:50 PM

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On top ?

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Ok so I should buy 2 of the fans?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:50 PM

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https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Gaming-Desktops/Where-how-to-install-additional-120mm-fan-in-Omen-Obelisk/td-p/6916065

community.hp.com

Where/how to install additional 120mm fan in Omen Obelisk

I am having trouble figuring out how to install a 120mm Corsair fan in the top of the case of an Omen Obelisk desktop. I have not been able to find any specific instructions on where or how it mounts, aside from the roof of the case. Per the HP website there is a mounting br...

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Yes

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Ok so 2 artic fans and the ram

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Should I get a noctura fan for cpu

woeful agate Apr 20, 2020, 5:51 PM

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dominator ram any good?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 5:53 PM

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One sec

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@woeful agate Pricey, but good. There are alternatives.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 5:57 PM

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@unkempt ibex semi-random question, could you take a picture from the side that shows the bottom part of the case AND the surface it is on?

woeful agate Apr 20, 2020, 5:58 PM

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kk

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 5:59 PM

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What do u mean like

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foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:02 PM

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yes. and now for another one

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take a picture of the bottom of the case?

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(as in, the part that is facing the desk)

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:03 PM

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(I assume you're trying to see if theres filters at the bottom that allows for another fan?)

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:03 PM

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distance

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because if you look at the one above

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there is bugger all distance from the table to the case itself

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and that case seems to be pulling from the bottom

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as in, the air intake is the bottom of the case

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and if that is "practically" blocked ....

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Wdym part facing I’m consumed

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Confused

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The back part of the case or

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:06 PM

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the part that it is standing on

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I have to lift my pc up?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:07 PM

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or tilt it on its side really

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I lifted it up

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It looks like this

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foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:08 PM

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hm

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why the heck are there not any "high" feet on that case?

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because that is clearly pure intake grills

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Uhm

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:10 PM

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question for you @unkempt ibex

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Yep

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:10 PM

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are there any rubber feet at the corners?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Sorta yeah

rustic bolt Apr 20, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Wish I had room to turn my tower right-side up, old PowerMac G5 case I gutted out and customized.. thing is so TALL... so much room to play around with though. Such a nice design, very heavy and clunky though hehe.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:11 PM

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could you grab a picture like the last one, but showing one of the feet?

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the G5 is a nice design indeed.

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Side note, cases usually use the front to pull in air, not in the omen's case I guess.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:12 PM

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its a cylinder design

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its a "obelisk"

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:12 PM

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but it doesn't come with stock fan on the top xD

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:12 PM

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aye, because someone didnt care enough

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because "technically" it is "fine"

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:13 PM

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(it even had the fan mounting holes and all lol)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:13 PM

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foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:13 PM

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huh?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:13 PM

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I mean, even my focus g, which is made for front to back, with only an OPTIONAL fan slot at the bottom has somewhat substantial legs

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naed I think its like a rubber ring kinda thing

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:14 PM

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@unkempt ibex is it resting/standing on that edge?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Yes

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:14 PM

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gah!!!!!!!!

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Well no I push it a little of my desk to get the pic

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:14 PM

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oml

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so it gets no airflow

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:14 PM

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it gets from the back and front of that

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there isnt one at the back (as you can see in the picture above)

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@unkempt ibex question: have you got 2 pieces of "something" that you could potentially put the machine up on?

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if that makes sense?

rustic bolt Apr 20, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Wish I could post the pictures of my "handy-work" lol... Someone was literally throwing out their old G5 and I scooped it up thinking "That's a pretty cool case!"

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:16 PM

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(something to prop it up)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Like on both ends

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Like a book or something

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:16 PM

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yea that kinda thing

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:16 PM

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that could work

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Yeah probably

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that would help airflow?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:17 PM

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remember, the goal is to leave as much of the bottom of the machine "free"

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it wont hurt!

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:)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:17 PM

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ok but i am still buying to 2 artic fans and the ram right?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:18 PM

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the current topic is a side topic, so not related to the other things

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:18 PM

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oh goctha

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and for a cpu cooler what should i do

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:18 PM

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that i will help answer after shopping :)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:18 PM

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oh ok

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:18 PM

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if @stoic island doesnt beat me to it :)

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:18 PM

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I was trying to figure out case clearance, but I couldn't find anything on it lol

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You think a lower profile noctua tower cooler could work Naed?

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like a u12s?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:19 PM

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a fairly high cooler could work, notice the shot of the cpu cooler with the gpu in the picture

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:19 PM

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well I mean

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my d15 stands tall above my gpu xD

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but d15 is disproportionately large

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:20 PM

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i would strongly recommend that whatever cooler is chosen, it should be one that doesnt require a change of backplate

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:20 PM

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uhm

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so like the noctua

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:21 PM

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hmm

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looks like a good bit of space?

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just ram clearance to consider

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:22 PM

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i will be back in .. 45 minutes or so

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Alright

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I'll go find someone else to bother

rustic bolt Apr 20, 2020, 6:22 PM

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you going with air or a fancy liquid setup?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:22 PM

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so what cpu fan do i get or should i wait

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i think air they want me to do

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idk i have a stock cooler soo

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:23 PM

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They need to go air

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the VRMs on that board relies on passive airflow from the air cooler

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theres no VRM heatsink

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and the airflow in that case is already abysmal

cedar spindle Apr 20, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Hey guys

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Question, about to build my pc but for Windows I read I have to make a copy USB from a different windows computer, the only one I have is messed up as hell screen looks wierd doesn’t work as fast as it should maybe viruses, will those issues transfer over while making the USB?

rustic bolt Apr 20, 2020, 6:23 PM

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I didn't see your specs or system, but I always preferred the big ol Zalman heatsinks.. people either love or hate them though.

torn sky Apr 20, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Why not use WC to cool the Vrms?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:24 PM

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No, since the download onto usb is directly from microsoft, it shouldn't carry over virus files

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...

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why

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I mean I have a huge nh-d15

rustic bolt Apr 20, 2020, 6:24 PM

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@cedar spindle You can usually use any Windows 7/10 OS to load the Windows Installer onto.

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:24 PM

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but WC to cool the VRMs?

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are you kidding?

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that board isn't a x570 aqua

rustic bolt Apr 20, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Just toss it on your USB.

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:25 PM

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you can't just do that

cedar spindle Apr 20, 2020, 6:25 PM

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@stoic island where I was looking it said we download a software from Microsoft then use that to “make” a new copy of windows on our current windows pc

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Is there anyway I could get a clean windows install onto the USB from my Mac?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:25 PM

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That... doesn't quite make sense xD
The windows you download from microsoft is like a clean copy

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the only thing that windows does is windows

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it doesnt copy over anything else

rustic bolt Apr 20, 2020, 6:26 PM

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MS basically wants everyone to have Windows, they don't make it too difficult heh, they literally have a small file you download onto an external USB drive.

cedar spindle Apr 20, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Can you send me the link for where to download😂

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:26 PM

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one sec

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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

cedar spindle Apr 20, 2020, 6:26 PM

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I’m sorry it’s my first build and I’ve spent wayyyy to much money

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:27 PM

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It's quite alright

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@unkempt ibex so I am leaning on getting a tower cooler for you like this
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y88BNYZ?tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1

cedar spindle Apr 20, 2020, 6:27 PM

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That link makes so much more sense

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the first one I read was sending me to the creation tool that’s why I got very confused

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:28 PM

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ah

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:28 PM

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for my cpu?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Yes

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:29 PM

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ok so im getting the 2 sticks of 8gb ram 2 artic fox fans and the noctua

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:29 PM

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get the ram and arctic f12 fans first

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I need some other people's opinions on the noctua cooler first

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:29 PM

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ok

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:29 PM

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and some other considerations

silver lichen Apr 20, 2020, 6:29 PM

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What's the CPU?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:29 PM

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i7 8700

rustic bolt Apr 20, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Zalman's I always liked.. they are BIG though.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:30 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I'll brb. I'm gonna try to find the height restrictions in the case

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:30 PM

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ok

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could i fit another fan under that one?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:30 PM

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@rustic bolt send me a pic of what you mean maybe?

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Warfare, no.

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I always think zalmans as the small dingy stock looking coolers

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like these

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silver lichen Apr 20, 2020, 6:31 PM

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CM Hyper 212 Evo is another good air cooler. I have it, but am using the ThermalTake Contac Silent 12 atm.

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:31 PM

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212 evo is pretty low end

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imo at least

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might as well get quality stuff

cursive wharf Apr 20, 2020, 6:31 PM

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212 costs too much

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:31 PM

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ill be bck in 30 minutes if u guys have anything to tell me just dm it or something so i see it

silver lichen Apr 20, 2020, 6:31 PM

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212 is tried and tested

cursive wharf Apr 20, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Gammaxx 400 is cheaper and same quality

rustic bolt Apr 20, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Zalman's were always scary to install lol, I had the larger ones like the ZALMAN CNPS9500's

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Ah I see

rustic bolt Apr 20, 2020, 6:32 PM

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But they did the job... kept my last Phenom 9850 alive for over a decade.. still going strong downstairs hehe.

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:33 PM

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I paid the noctua tax for d15.

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They're beefy, they're reliable, they're expensive, but they work well.

rustic bolt Apr 20, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Not for everyone, I had one lined up for this build (Ryzen 5/ROG B350) but no need, the AMD stock heat-sink was fine.. I'm not too picky.

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Ah

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AMD stock is much better than intel stock.

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anyways @cursive wharf you think you got any way to determind the height of whatever cooler that fits in that case?

cedar spindle Apr 20, 2020, 6:35 PM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/NcHxPn list for reference, I have 9 fans Incl the AIO ones, what would they all plug into? Would I need to buy a separate controller?

System Builder

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Because while I do want a tower cooler in there, it might not fit, and we would need to use smth like a NH-L12s

rustic bolt Apr 20, 2020, 6:35 PM

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I never used them in the past, guess I just got old and lazy on this build.. but I love this system.

cursive wharf Apr 20, 2020, 6:35 PM

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the only thing I could suggest is a guesstimate with cross referencing cases similair sizes

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:36 PM

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They got a omen obelisk

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I have no idea the size or anything

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Wait, isn't ML360r bad or something

cursive wharf Apr 20, 2020, 6:36 PM

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get the guy to just measure the outside I guess

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:36 PM

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I remember something about coolermaster aios not being great

cursive wharf Apr 20, 2020, 6:37 PM

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I never looked into tests so idk

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but never heard them for quality, so doubt they're great

cedar spindle Apr 20, 2020, 6:37 PM

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I read a few reviews they say it’s a bit loud

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But good cooling wise

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Okay so the ML360r has a control module thing for the rgb and fan connectors on the AIO.

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cursive wharf Apr 20, 2020, 6:38 PM

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"amazon" reviews or actual reviews?

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former isnt the best to go off of

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:39 PM

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other than that, the case only has 3 chassis fan connectors, so I think you need a fan hub.

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cedar spindle Apr 20, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Actual reviews I think toms hardware and stuff

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:39 PM

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also, if you buy 2x 3x packs of fans, you can save money, and also have 2 hubs that comes with the fans

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iirc lighting node pro is a fan controller/hub

cedar spindle Apr 20, 2020, 6:40 PM

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I didn’t think I’d need it cause the lightning node said it would be compatible with upto 12 fans

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But now after that I’m thinking maybe that’s only for the rgb and not the rest of the fans

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:41 PM

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not completely sure

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might need more fan hubs if not

cedar spindle Apr 20, 2020, 6:42 PM

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I just hope I can atleast get the 3 on AIO and the 3 with the node working

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Then I can figure out the other 3 at a later date when I can afford to get anything right now after my last parts I’m officially broke

cursive wharf Apr 20, 2020, 6:43 PM

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no

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Corsair fans are so overpriced

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also node pro comes with two RGB headers, 4/6 fan headers, and smth else I think. idk what max daisy chain capacity is tho for the headers

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:46 PM

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@stoic island re: minimum height that will be okay

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look at the add-in bracket "height"

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its a traditional slot height, so that is a safe height as a start

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:47 PM

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hmm yes

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Ru guys talking about my pc?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:47 PM

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(the above is just info about "how to figure out clearance" for future reference)

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we will be shortly @unkempt ibex

cedar spindle Apr 20, 2020, 6:48 PM

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@cursive wharf I never thought it would’ve been so hard to build my own😂😂

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:48 PM

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I mean it doesn't have to be hard until you add in a ton of rgb and a ton of fans

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lol

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:49 PM

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side note, a regular card is 100-ish mm high @stoic island

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:49 PM

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ah I see

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:49 PM

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so that gives you "some" idea about things

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:49 PM

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should be fine for the 125mm ish nh-u12s eh?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

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height wise? yes

still roostBOT Apr 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

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PakmanFPS#1273 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

cedar spindle Apr 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Oops

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Rgb and fans will mess with me😂

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:52 PM

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the challenge with the u12 @stoic island is the required backplate replacement

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because IF there isnt a backplate cut-out, he would need to take out the mainboard

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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ok so im gunna buy the ram and the 2 artic fans

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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really?

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Why would that be?

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it looks to have enough space to me

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oh wait

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Ohhh wait

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Mobo backplate

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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custom mounting backplate :)

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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I thought you meant gpu backplate xDDD

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:03 PM

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@unkempt ibex yet another question for you

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can you try and see if you can easily get access to the "back" of the mainboard?

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as in, can you pull of the back panel of the case?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:06 PM

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i dont htink i can

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:06 PM

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okay :)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:06 PM

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i might there is a couple screws

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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in a normal case, there is 2 screws holding on the back panel, when un-screwed, you can normally just slide off the back panel

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keep in mind, this is in a normal case

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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i think i can then

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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all bets are off with a custom like the Obelisk

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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what would be the reason

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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cooler mounting is the reason

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because most good coolers will require a replacement of what is known as the cpu backplate

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:08 PM

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oh

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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but again, its "just" a idle curiosity

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there are options either way

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i am just trying to avoid having you, have to take out the mainboard

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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yeah

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so buy the ram and 2 artic fans right?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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hang on

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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k

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:10 PM

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let me just figure out this cooler stuff :)

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hmmm

proper ore Apr 20, 2020, 7:21 PM

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what would you guys run, a 5700xt or 2070 xc ultra, i have both and need to get rid of the other

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:21 PM

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this is not looking all that good

lime forge Apr 20, 2020, 7:22 PM

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i would take the 2070 personally

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especially since its that xc ultra model.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:27 PM

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@unkempt ibex this is not looking all that good

unique dawn Apr 20, 2020, 7:28 PM

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2070

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driver issues havent been completely resolved

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on amd's behalf

polar goblet Apr 20, 2020, 7:28 PM

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GSkill Trident for AMD RYZEN 2x16gb
I’m on amazon and there’s 2 different prices for what seems to be the same except a possible different model?
F4-3600C18D-32GTZN
Vs
F4-3600C18D-32GTZNC

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Any differences?

unique dawn Apr 20, 2020, 7:29 PM

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idk what the NC means

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one's neo and ones not?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:29 PM

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@foggy hazel whats up?

polar goblet Apr 20, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Both NEO

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Ah one has (for AMD ryzen) in the title and one doesn’t... hmmm

unique dawn Apr 20, 2020, 7:30 PM

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foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:30 PM

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it seems that the mainboard uses a custom width for the holes that you would use for cooler mounting @unkempt ibex

unique dawn Apr 20, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Are the boxes the same

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Mines the neo

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:30 PM

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which limits the options

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:30 PM

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shoul di just get a new motherboard

unique dawn Apr 20, 2020, 7:30 PM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:30 PM

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how long have you had the machine @unkempt ibex ?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:31 PM

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7 months

unique dawn Apr 20, 2020, 7:31 PM

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wow

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thats not that long lol

polar goblet Apr 20, 2020, 7:31 PM

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One of the RAM says 16 latency.
While the other says (for AMD ryzen) but it’s 18 latency.

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Idk which to get

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:38 PM

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@polar goblet check the manufacturers spec page

polar goblet Apr 20, 2020, 7:39 PM

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From further inspection in the details they’re both for AMD RYZEN series.
Just one is 18 latency and one is 16. Going to go with 16 latency for $10 more

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:40 PM

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naed what should i do

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:41 PM

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i am trying to figure that out @unkempt ibex

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:41 PM

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gotcha

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:44 PM

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the following things are the current situation (as i understand it at least):

There is currently a stock cpu cooler, that cannot easily be replaced, because HP are dum dums with their compatibility.

The case is designed in a way that it sucks in air from the bottom, while not having the feet to create the distance that would enable that.

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Currently, the following measures are being considered:

Adding 2 fans, (there is no real downside to this, but with the case as it is currently, there is no real upside either)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:46 PM

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dnag

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so like im so clueless should i part out and just build a new rig

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:47 PM

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the ram upgrade is a given

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because that is just a plain silly build decision from HP

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this is IF you keep the system ofc

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:48 PM

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what would u do if u had my computer

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:48 PM

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nothing that i can say here without getting Meep on my back

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:48 PM

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oh:(

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:48 PM

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sorry mate

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it is just a really really effed design

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what you should start with is this: Find something that can be used as feet for the case

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:49 PM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:49 PM

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because that might actually make things cool down quite a bit

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because as it is "right now", it is NOT getting the air it needs

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:50 PM

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ok

wide sparrow Apr 20, 2020, 7:50 PM

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@sweet ember what Led strips are you using?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:50 PM

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that is a "temp" fix that will be permament, because the case is designed the way it is

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:50 PM

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ok

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should i still get the artic fans

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:51 PM

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for now? wait

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:51 PM

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what about ram

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:51 PM

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test what feet does first

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same for ram

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if you end up doing a different system, no need to invest in something for this one

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sorry mate

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:51 PM

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yeah i wanna do that

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i think i might eventually sell my motherboard and get a nice one for a new rig

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:52 PM

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as i see it, the parts that are usable from your current system is this: CPU + GPU + Storage

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because the mainboard is ... odd

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the psu is ... odd

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:53 PM

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yeha

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:53 PM

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the case? .. i have not taken a serious look at it, but based on everything else, it is most likely really odd

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:53 PM

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yeah im gunna sell it

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it actually sells for 100 with the power supply

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:54 PM

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remind me again what specific cpu you have?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:54 PM

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ok i know youve been helping me a lot but can you help me find what parts i could use for my new rig

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:54 PM

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or send me a cpu-z picture of the first tab?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:54 PM

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I have an i7 8700

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:55 PM

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just to make 100% could you post the pic of that tab?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:55 PM

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wdym

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oh off that one thing ]

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:55 PM

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CPU-Z:)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:55 PM

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i forget what its called

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📎 image0.jpg

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:57 PM

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thank you :)

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and ofc i would be willing to help find some parts :)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Thanks!:)

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ok so i did some research and i could sell all my parts i dont need around 400 give or take

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Case and power supply-100

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Ram-65 ish

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 7:59 PM

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okay, so that gives us a starting point of 400-ish for Case+PSU + ram + mainboard?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 7:59 PM

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motherboard 240

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yes

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and i can spend a little extra

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:00 PM

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i am amazed that someone is willing to pay 240 for that PITA mainboard

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:00 PM

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ikr found a couple that sold around that on ebay

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:01 PM

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whatever works for people.. i guess ..

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:)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Do u think i could get liquid cooling in this new rig?

cold sorrel Apr 20, 2020, 8:01 PM

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okay, now even the RAM I was going to buy has gone out of stock.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:02 PM

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did you check newegg,eebay,walmart,bestbuy?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:02 PM

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@unkempt ibex if you really want to, yes. There isnt a need as such for it. But if you want and are willing to pay for it, sure.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:03 PM

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my budget for those parts case,motherboard,ram and powersuppy +fans maybe 450

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:04 PM

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aye aye

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:04 PM

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well the fans come with the case

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:04 PM

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depends on the case :)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:04 PM

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+a nice cpu cooler lmao

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:04 PM

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do you have any special wishes for the case?

rustic bolt Apr 20, 2020, 8:04 PM

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liquid is nice but i have personally never invested into it... too pricey for me 😦

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Good looking case not super fancy or expensive, i would like it to be see though if u know what i mean

cold sorrel Apr 20, 2020, 8:05 PM

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At most, I might someday get an AIO to look fancy. But that is a day long in the future

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:05 PM

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so, a case with a window?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:05 PM

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yes

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:05 PM

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any comment about size of things?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:06 PM

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not not really doesnt really matter

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:06 PM

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(and just to make 100% certain, you are in the US right?)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Yes

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:10 PM

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@unkempt ibex your GPU is black/silver/red?

white shale Apr 20, 2020, 8:13 PM

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I'm sure it doesn't make a huge difference, if any at all, but currently running an MSI MPG Z390 AC Carbon motherboard(i think that's right, off the top of my head) with a corsair h100i 240mm AIO Liquid Cooling system with an EVGA 850W Gold Standard PSU. Currently upgrading from NVIDIA GeForce 1050ti, I ordered an MSI brand graphics card, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have mattered if I ordered gigabyte or evga or any other brand, as the only difference is the aftermarket coolers on them right?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:13 PM

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the brand doesnt matter

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each manufacturer (depending on card model) might have "only" put a custom cooler on the card. For other models, it might be a custom designed PCB

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and neither really matters much in the grand scheme of things :)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:14 PM

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oh sorry my gpu is black

white shale Apr 20, 2020, 8:15 PM

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My friend who helped me rebuild my pc from the ground up said that brand didn't matter but some might be quieter than others, so I was trying to get the best advice! Can't to plug in my new 2070 😄

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:15 PM

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2070 is pretty great :D

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does great in everything I want it to in 1080p

white shale Apr 20, 2020, 8:16 PM

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can't wait*

icy plume Apr 20, 2020, 8:16 PM

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1080p 144hz >:D

white shale Apr 20, 2020, 8:16 PM

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It'll be a huge step up from my 1050ti haha