#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 498

small mural Apr 16, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Oof.

tidal radish Apr 16, 2020, 12:52 AM

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@cursive wharf Good to know haha

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 12:53 AM

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So yeah I wouldnt go 750w as it's kinda a waste of money. Spend that on an SSD instead

small mural Apr 16, 2020, 12:53 AM

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How did you figure the 9th gen doesn't work on this chipset?

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 12:53 AM

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https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/98086/intel-b250-chipset.html

Intel® B250 Chipset Product Specifications

Intel® B250 Chipset quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.

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best you could do is 7th gen

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 12:54 AM

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god damn intel

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 12:54 AM

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which are overpriced, and usually getting an AMD CPU+mobo is the same price

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then just a 7th gen CPU

still roostBOT Apr 16, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Reptoid#6482 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

small mural Apr 16, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Oop

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Damn, back to the Pentium 😥

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 12:55 AM

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F

tidal radish Apr 16, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Also, I do have 3 240hz monitors, 1 is boxed up still because my current build couldnt handle it, also is there any specific cpu cooler that i should get, Ive been looking at some noctua fans but are AIO's better?

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 12:59 AM

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well, Noctua fans are good, but overrated and overpriced. AIOs noise normalized perf is about -5% to 1% better then a good air cooler, all in while being more expensive. So basically not worth it unless for looks

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 12:59 AM

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I think they mean Noctua air cooler.

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 1:00 AM

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still, same thing compared to other air coolers

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 1:00 AM

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I think they're all slightly overpriced right now

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but for a while d15 was 90, same as drp4

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 1:00 AM

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I mean compared to Mugen 5

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 1:00 AM

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..?

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rev b?

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that's a single fan cooler

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 1:01 AM

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or smth

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and it's still barely worse

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 1:01 AM

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maybe you mean macho

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 1:02 AM

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is it not like 5 degree difference in noise normalized perf tho?

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basically nothing tbh, because 5 degrees means little to the standard consumer

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 1:03 AM

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cant find noise normalized

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heres normalhttps://images.tweaktown.com/content/8/3/8320_33_scythe-mugen-5-rev-cpu-cooler-review.png

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 1:04 AM

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well you have to kinda guess it, but compare perf and then noise

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pretty close in both regards

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iirc

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 1:04 AM

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It is

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all coolers are at some point

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for non-OCed, it doesn't really matter above stock though

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Also wonder about this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dZ3H99/scythe-ninja-5-430-cfm-cpu-cooler-scnj-5000

Scythe Ninja 5 43.03 CFM CPU Cooler

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Worse than rev b somehow xD

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I dont really understand how

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but maybe fins are too large? and fans too far away from heat source? that is my only guess.

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 1:07 AM

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fan curve probs

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need to look into noise graph as well

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 1:08 AM

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maybe

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looks like its pretty quiet though

latent storm Apr 16, 2020, 4:38 AM

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hey i have a question, will the stock cooler that comes with my ryzen 5 3600 be good enough?

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:03 AM

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They're not going to include a cooler for that CPU that would kill it. They'd have to pay for the warranty claim.

warped moat Apr 16, 2020, 5:04 AM

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It’s fine if your not overclocking

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:04 AM

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can someone help me out with upgradeing my current build?

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Most likely.

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:05 AM

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can i pm u? cause theres alot

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:06 AM

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I'd just dump it here anyways.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:06 AM

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lol k

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so 1st is there a program to give u my current specs cause i kinda dont want to type it all out xD

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i guess i can just type it

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Piriform Speccy I guess?

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:09 AM

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k

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Hm. @still roost gets mad if I paste any links.

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:13 AM

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pm me if need be

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Should be able to copy/paste the summary in here. As an example..

    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
    Intel Core i7 @ 3.20GHz    56 °C
    Coffee Lake 14nm Technology
RAM
    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1329MHz (19-19-19-43)
Motherboard
    HP 844C (U3E1)
Graphics
    Sceptre C32 (1920x1080@165Hz)
    BenQ GC2870 (1920x1080@60Hz)
    Unknown DisplayLink USB Device (Undefined)
    Unknown DisplayLink USB Device (Undefined)
    2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 (HP)    40 °C
    SLI Disabled
Storage
    465GB Western Digital WDC WDS500G2B0B-00YS70 (SATA (SSD))    42 °C
    931GB Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102 (SATA )    37 °C
    238GB SanDisk Extreme Pro USB Device (USB )
Optical Drives
    No optical disk drives detected
Audio
    Conexant HD Audio```
Edit: Kind of annoying it doesn't include the CPU model.

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:17 AM

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true

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how do u do that black box again?

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Three tildes (next to the tab and 1 keys) before and after.

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:26 AM

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        Operating System
            Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
        CPU
            AMD Ryzen 5    107 °C
            14nm Technology
        RAM
            16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz (15-15-15-36)
        Motherboard
            Micro-Star International Co. Ltd. X470 GAMING PLUS (MS-7B79) (AM4)    34 °C
        Graphics
            SyncMaster (1440x900@60Hz)
            VG245 (1920x1080@59Hz)
            8192MB ATI Radeon RX 580 Series (XFX Pine Group)    54 °C
        Storage
            465GB Seagate ST500DM002-1BD142 (SATA )    29 °C
            931GB Sabrent Rocket Q (Unknown (SSD))
        Optical Drives
            Optiarc DVD+-RW AD-7270H
        Audio
            NVIDIA Virtual Audio Device (Wave Extensible) (WDM)```

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well that kinda didnt come out right oh well

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my budget is like $500 and trying to get it to a decent gaming rig

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Which Ryzen 5 chip do you have?

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..and what cooler? 107c is excessively toasty.

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:29 AM

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2600 or something like that i know its 2k

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just wraith

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:30 AM

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I'd check to make sure the fan was spinning or it wasn't chock full of dust.

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:31 AM

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lemme look

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how would i clean it if it had dust in it cause i might have to wait till tomorrow the fam is sleeping

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and i cant tell if theres dust in it when its spining

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:35 AM

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If not that, you'll want to make sure it's mounted properly. Probably get a pretty significant boost just getting temps under control.

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I usually shove zip ties in all fans so they can't spin and use compressed air to blow dust out.

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..with the PC off, of course.

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:36 AM

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yes lol

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 5:36 AM

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The airflow of your case can also affect temps

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Switching cases dropped my temps by a significant margin

misty spindle Apr 16, 2020, 5:37 AM

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hey guys

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just built my pc

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and i dont have windows installed bc i dont have a keyboard

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:38 AM

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yea i was thinking about getting a gaming case cause everything is in a workstation case and was gonna try water cooling if need be

misty spindle Apr 16, 2020, 5:38 AM

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📎 IMG_20200415_200600.jpg

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:38 AM

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A decent air cooler would be loads better than the stock cooler.

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Looks like the Ryzen 5 2600 should sit ~80c under load with stock cooler (depending on ambient temps).

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 5:39 AM

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"Gaming" case doesn't matter, just as long as it has airflow

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:39 AM

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yea i dont think this case does

misty spindle Apr 16, 2020, 5:40 AM

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which one

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mine?

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Break out a holesaw and add some vents to mount some fans. 🔪 🖥️

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Lol

misty spindle Apr 16, 2020, 5:40 AM

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yes

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lmao

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:41 AM

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That's what I did on my old old Socket 754 Sempron build.

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:41 AM

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lol

paper ermine Apr 16, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Imma be getting this tomorrow. Cant wait

📎 Screenshot_20200416-014119_Newegg.jpg

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 5:42 AM

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@misty spindle nice build, I guess you are using an APU

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:42 AM

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^ Yeah, lookin' clean.

misty spindle Apr 16, 2020, 5:42 AM

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yea

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thx

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 5:43 AM

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My case says it can fit a rad, it can't, unless it was a slim with slim fans

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Critical, I'd say figuring out how to keep your CPU cool should be priority #1. As for upgrades, your RX 580 should be pretty decent but if you're getting poor FPS in games, you could just swap out the GPU for something new. I'd think that CPU would be fine for a while.

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Depends on which games you're trying to run (on which monitor and at what settings), but that CPU is probably throttling down due to heat which I'm guessing is killing performance.
Could be a free performance upgrade just getting it cooled down.

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 5:45 AM

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A decent case with front panel fans and room for top fans is always a good idea

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thumbsupcat

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:46 AM

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tnx for the input techkyle I thought about doing that for longrun ryoku

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Could always go for the box-fan mod. 🤷‍♂️

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Pull the side panel off and set a box-fan next to it.

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 5:46 AM

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My case is a super cheap $35 case

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📎 JPEG_20200104_115152.jpg

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Cheap, good flow, nice looking

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Dang. Is that glass or just acrylic?

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 5:47 AM

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It's glass

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:48 AM

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is glass the best?

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Glass is literally for looks

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:49 AM

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I've screwed motherboards onto pieces of scrap board before. Best temps ever.

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Just need airflow. The rest is eye candy.

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:50 AM

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k i might go with that since i dont foresee my pc being knocked over in the near future

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yea i will prioritize cooling first

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Yours might be fine. It could be an issue with the way the CPU cooler is mounted. Might check to see if your temperatures go down with the side panel off.

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 5:53 AM

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The main negative about that case is it's pretty small for an ATX, it was really annoying to build in

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:53 AM

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i have the side panel off

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 5:54 AM

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If the side is off and temps are still high then you might wanna remount the cooler like he said

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Can you feel heat coming off the cooler? I'd be careful not to touch it since it could potentially be burn-your-hand hot.

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If the cooler is pretty cool, then heat isn't getting from your processor to the cooler.

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:54 AM

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k and yes it feels warm

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 5:55 AM

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I used expensive thermal paste that doesn't cure

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Even generic goo should keep it somewhat cool.

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 5:56 AM

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thumbsupcat

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Hm. I'd say remount the cooler and go from there.

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:59 AM

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k

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Revisit the need for upgrading after that.

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 5:59 AM

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k

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Should be a pretty rockin' little rig still.

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 6:00 AM

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i mean i am running an ark server while playing ark xD idk if that would do it or not

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Annoyingly the best stuff for cleaning thermal paste can't be bought anywhere right now

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Rubbing alcohol on a towel? Might just have it laying around.

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That CPU should't be able to get that hot no matter what you throw at it.

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..unless you're overclocked on the stock cooler.

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 6:02 AM

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no i dont think i am

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Yea gaming generally doesnt even put a CPU under full load

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 6:02 AM

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oh ok

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 6:03 AM

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If you were doing Folding @ Home then I could see it Maybe getting in the 90s

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Over 100c is pure bad

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 6:04 AM

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k im going to turn my pc off let it cool down for a few then re mount it

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and see if that fixes it

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Got paste?

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Can't remount without new paste

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Yeah, definitely don't want to try to reuse.

hardy yarrow Apr 16, 2020, 6:05 AM

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erm lemme look i should some where

misty spindle Apr 16, 2020, 6:09 AM

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is it just me or does everyone think that fans shouod be blowing air at 30mph

lyric thistle Apr 16, 2020, 6:39 AM

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yes

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no less

misty spindle Apr 16, 2020, 7:05 AM

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XD

formal crow Apr 16, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Yo bros any one here use a EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 XC Ultra Black Gaming, 06G-P4-2163-KR, 6GB GDDR6, Dual HDB Fans? Looking to upgrade from a 1060 to that bad boy.

eager chasm Apr 16, 2020, 9:27 AM

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That's a pretty spesific model lol

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It would be a pretty good upgrade.

sudden turret Apr 16, 2020, 9:28 AM

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I'd say

formal crow Apr 16, 2020, 9:33 AM

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Sweetness yea the 1060 i bought from CL is louder then heck.

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Could ya guys rate my build if ya dont mind? Rysen 5 3600 CPU, 32gb ddr4 3200mhz, GeForce 2060 XC GPU, 1tb ssd, 6tbhdd, mother msi B450 Gaming Plus Max, two CORSAIR AF140 LED Low Noise Cooling Fan and a standard 40mm corsair case fan. Anything you would reccomaned changing? This includes parts just ordered.

tepid basalt Apr 16, 2020, 9:59 AM

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i recommend changing the case from nothing to something

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or looks like u had one already

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dumme

formal crow Apr 16, 2020, 10:08 AM

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My bad lol its a corsair 175r

waxen verge Apr 16, 2020, 10:24 AM

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Seems pretty decent to me. barbShrug

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I was looking at the 2060 or 2070 and ended up with a 5700 XT just because it was on sale and it would be nice to occasionally use adaptive sync over HDMI. Either or is fine.

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Power supply? Shouldn't need much, just curious.

analog hearth Apr 16, 2020, 12:44 PM

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@formal crow than*

proud galleon Apr 16, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Current Build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mC4ZHB

Build Upgrade: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4mcCK4

Thoughts? In regards to storage, I'll probably have M.2 soon enough.

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warped moat Apr 16, 2020, 2:04 PM

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What are you going to be using this pc for

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I wouldn’t buy that motherboard the Asus tuf b450 pro gaming is better

proud galleon Apr 16, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Mostly using it for gaming on a whole array of titles. I'm planning to start streaming as well in the near future and probably editing eventually.

warped moat Apr 16, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Then overall it’s a fine upgrade minus the mobo

mossy pine Apr 16, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Can anyone recommend a good cheap Wi-Fi and Bluetooth adapter card so I can get wireless connectivity on my PC

latent storm Apr 16, 2020, 3:37 PM

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in my build i’m trying to get the parts for right now, i already ordered the asus tuf b450 pro gaming atx am4 mobo and i was gonna use CL18 trident z rgb 2x8gb kit but someone mentioned yesterday that it wouldn’t be easy to run with CL18 memory on ryzen 3000 so should i switch it out for a CL16 kit of the same memory?

sullen spoke Apr 16, 2020, 3:56 PM

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cl16 is better

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cl18 would technically work but most people would only recommend to go with cl16 or better today

woeful agate Apr 16, 2020, 4:19 PM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gTBF3t any thoughts?

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latent storm Apr 16, 2020, 4:46 PM

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if you’re spending that much money at least get that kit in cl16

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is 16-19-19-39 good or should i do 16-18-18-38

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 4:56 PM

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16-18-18-38 is optimal but 16-19-19-39 is basically just as good

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This was my take on it
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/j662YH

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digital pecan Apr 16, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Any suggestions on a $900 below pc for my friend? Not prebuilt

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 5:16 PM

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This comes pretty close to 900 USD
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BHLpRk

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digital pecan Apr 16, 2020, 5:18 PM

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It looks pretty good, thank you for that

surreal gyro Apr 16, 2020, 5:19 PM

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the crucial ram is cheaper

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236214

unkempt ibex Apr 16, 2020, 5:20 PM

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can someone help me with my fps

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 5:26 PM

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@surreal gyro wdym?

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that is worse actually

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That is at 3200mhz, instead of the 3600mhz on the Ripjaw Vs

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16-18-18-38 has barely any difference than the 16-19-19-39 on the corsair ram, and 3600mhz is quite a bit better than 3200mhz.

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@digital pecan I'd say keep the ripjaw Vs

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They're the cheapest 3600mhz cl16 kits that I know of

foggy hazel Apr 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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aye, at least for the US market

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Yea, true. I assume it was the US market because I said USD and there was no clarifications made.

foggy hazel Apr 16, 2020, 5:28 PM

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aye aye :) just commented with the US part for the lurkers :)

sudden turret Apr 16, 2020, 5:29 PM

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@placid vigil i'd change those two fans around

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to intake

placid vigil Apr 16, 2020, 5:30 PM

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ROFLEgg didn't know they were backwards

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Thx

surreal gyro Apr 16, 2020, 5:33 PM

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@stoic island i didn't catch that it was faster whoops

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 5:34 PM

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fair

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Build quality wise corsair vengence and g.skill ripjaw are about the same, so its just gonna be specs vs specs

surreal gyro Apr 16, 2020, 5:35 PM

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ture

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i just bought parts and am waiting for it to come in the mail.

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 5:35 PM

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nice

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might take a while due to human malware

surreal gyro Apr 16, 2020, 5:35 PM

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i should get all the parts on monday

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 5:36 PM

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fair enough

surreal gyro Apr 16, 2020, 5:36 PM

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i should get the amazon ones on sat and then newegg on mon

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Newegg2

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ftw

surreal gyro Apr 16, 2020, 5:37 PM

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i just need to save some money up to get a new case

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i have one now buts it not good, but i will work temporarily

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 5:39 PM

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what case is it

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changing cases is annoying

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gotta take everything out and stuff

surreal gyro Apr 16, 2020, 5:39 PM

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the one i have now

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i have no idea

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http://www.xoxide.com/lianli-pc-v1110a-silvercase.html found it

xoxide.com

Lian Li PC-V1110A Computer Case - Silver

Allow us to introduce the Silver Lian Li PC-V1110A, one of the latest cases in Lian Li's all new V Series. Offering a new style, structure, and enhanced, the V Series is the next step in the evolution of the Lian Li case.

Featuring an all aluminum alloy chassis, the Lian Li P...

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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3878866 its a little diffrent than this with out the middle bar

Tigerdirect

Lian-Li PC-V1110A Aluminum Mid Tower Case - Silver

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 5:52 PM

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whats a great for $800bucks tops

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pc

icy plume Apr 16, 2020, 5:55 PM

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cad, aud, or usd

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 5:59 PM

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usd

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NBJrx6 i found this but wondering if it is any good

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stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:01 PM

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bro

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thats 3000$ USD

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:01 PM

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oops wrong list lol

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:01 PM

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lol

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:01 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NBJrx6

System Builder

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it wont let me put the right one in here lol

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:02 PM

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wdym?

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can you type out the characters after the /list/

placid vigil Apr 16, 2020, 6:02 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b6pDMc

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stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:02 PM

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if it doesn't let you copy it for some reason

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hat works

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only hdd?

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:02 PM

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is a 1660ti better than a super

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:02 PM

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barely

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and super is cheaper

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:02 PM

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ok

placid vigil Apr 16, 2020, 6:03 PM

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He said 800 max so it was either 500gb ssd or 2tb hdd

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Would you rather have ssd or hdd

muted atlas Apr 16, 2020, 6:03 PM

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I have a question but it’s about a laptop build is anyone able to help?

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:04 PM

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I can fit in a ssd with only 5$ over budget
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QrZW6R

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buoyant flame Apr 16, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Oh cool the matx tuf is finally back in stock

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:05 PM

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yea

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:05 PM

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he wants a ssd and a hdd

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Made it <800$

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hpfVHB

System Builder

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SSD and HDD

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That still has a 1660s and 3600

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better mobo

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same perf ram

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cheaper better airflow case

placid vigil Apr 16, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Nice

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Better PSU, and 450w is good enough for this build

muted atlas Apr 16, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Is a Acer Aspire 5 Slim Laptop with an addition of two ram sticks of 16gb of ram added and 1tb of storage good for gaming like not new gen but like CSGO/OVERWATCH/DAYZ

placid vigil Apr 16, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Specs?

muted atlas Apr 16, 2020, 6:10 PM

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I’m on a budget and I’ll find it

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:10 PM

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What is your budget

placid vigil Apr 16, 2020, 6:10 PM

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And do you necessarily need a laptop

muted atlas Apr 16, 2020, 6:11 PM

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I’m not able to buy a huge gaming pc so I was going for laptop and my budget is somewhere near 400-600$

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:11 PM

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damn thats a small budget

muted atlas Apr 16, 2020, 6:11 PM

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and yeah I was looking to be portable

placid vigil Apr 16, 2020, 6:11 PM

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I mean mini itx

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Oh portable

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:11 PM

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small budget makes itx builds really hard too

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Acer Aspire 5 only has iGPU...

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lemme see if theres any good <600$ lapptops

muted atlas Apr 16, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Okay thank you

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:12 PM

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so a what do you guys think of a 3600x instead of a 3600

muted atlas Apr 16, 2020, 6:13 PM

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I watched a video on the Aspire 5 2018 with an extra ram stick and it ran games pretty well but if I were to get that and get in a range of 16-32gbs would I be good for casual gaming and performance ?

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:13 PM

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@stoic island 3600x or 3600

placid vigil Apr 16, 2020, 6:13 PM

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3600x and 3600 is not a big difference

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:13 PM

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3600

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:13 PM

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ok

placid vigil Apr 16, 2020, 6:13 PM

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And you can manual oc

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:14 PM

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is the MSI B450 Tomahawk atx AM4 any good

placid vigil Apr 16, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Yes

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But I think you would have to update bios

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:15 PM

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does that involve using a different cpu?

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Not with MSI boards iirc

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:16 PM

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ok

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Because bios flasback

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:16 PM

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so i can use a 3600 i buy on that mobo to update it

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:17 PM

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you can just flash it with a usb without a cpu or anything

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You should get a different motherboard

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:17 PM

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ok

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whats a good one

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:17 PM

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The Asus b450m tuf pro is a better mobo

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3rd gen ready too, cheaper than tomahawk max.

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Heres my list again

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hpfVHB

System Builder

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:17 PM

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is the rox strix b450 good?

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:18 PM

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I would just suggest the tuf b450m pro

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:18 PM

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ok

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is there a difference between the pro and the plus

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:19 PM

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yes

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pro is better

thorny bronze Apr 16, 2020, 6:19 PM

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ok

viral crane Apr 16, 2020, 6:55 PM

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@thorny bronze I have a 3600x and wish I got the 3600 and put the extra $30 into something else. I've been helping 2 of my boys build their setups and both went 3600 since the performance is barely noticeable

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 6:58 PM

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3800x barely does better than 3700x too.

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I have a 3800x.

viral crane Apr 16, 2020, 7:00 PM

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are the ryzen 9's even worth it for gaming compared to the 7's?

icy plume Apr 16, 2020, 7:10 PM

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probs not

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Gaming? Not at all

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You don't need more cores for gaming.

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But for like video editing, yes, you can utilize those cores.

icy plume Apr 16, 2020, 7:13 PM

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yeah

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games are like 99% single-core

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so some processors are just core-count upgrades, some are core performance

viral crane Apr 16, 2020, 7:13 PM

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true

shell plover Apr 16, 2020, 7:14 PM

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First time pc builder. My motherboard says "Supports CPU up to 65 watts." When shopping for CPU. Do i use the TDP specification to stay within my motherboard specification?

cunning prairie Apr 16, 2020, 7:27 PM

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3600 or 3600X

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 7:36 PM

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@shell plover Might need specifics of the situation.

shell plover Apr 16, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Im trying to put a 3600x on a ASROCk A320M-HDV MOBO

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 7:37 PM

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You already own either of those things?

shell plover Apr 16, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Yes the MOBO

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 7:37 PM

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I'd suggest a 3600 not a 3600x

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3600x is needlessly more expensive than the 3600.

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and Yes, you can do that, there was a video done about it a while back. Not optimal at all, but it does work.

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A320 mobos are pretty out of date but

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they work

shell plover Apr 16, 2020, 7:39 PM

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@stoic island Whats a good cost effective MOBO option for me?

leaden kayak Apr 16, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Thinking of upgrading my gpu for fortnite, Nvidia G100 a good choice?

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Asus tuf b450 pro. That exact motherboard I can link if you give me a second.

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idk y the link so long but
https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming/p/N82E16813119224?Item=N82E16813119224&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2Fy3prxr%2Fasus-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-Gkml_krAFrdckDx1UoqoKw

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wtf is a g100

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lemme see

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This thing will not cut it for a good gpu

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@leaden kayak are you on laptop or desktop

leaden kayak Apr 16, 2020, 7:43 PM

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its a 20 inch 09 imac

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 7:44 PM

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I don't even think you can upgrade on that.. but idk

leaden kayak Apr 16, 2020, 7:44 PM

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please i need help

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 7:44 PM

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apple products are weird

lime forge Apr 16, 2020, 7:44 PM

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cant upgrade the GPU in an imac

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Yea... Apple products are really bad for upgrading and stuff

lime forge Apr 16, 2020, 7:45 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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my stepmoms imac has an i9, 64gbs of ram, and a 4tb ssd

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lol

leaden kayak Apr 16, 2020, 7:46 PM

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can i upgrade rim on here?

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rom

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whatever

tidal radish Apr 16, 2020, 7:46 PM

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ram

leaden kayak Apr 16, 2020, 7:46 PM

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ram

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im only one in class that cant play

sharp frost Apr 16, 2020, 8:01 PM

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You wont be able to play fancy games on an imac they are not built for that

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But i guess you are trolling so it doesn't matter

latent storm Apr 16, 2020, 8:31 PM

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i have only one intake fan and one exhaust fan in my case, am i gonna need another intake?

digital pecan Apr 16, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Probably

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what r your specs

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 8:41 PM

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if you want to

modern shadow Apr 16, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Should I get a Ripjaw 3600 16GB or a cheaper option?

sleek valley Apr 16, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Does anyone suggest any videos to help me upgrade my cpu and mobo?

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I know search YouTube, but I’d prefer something that someone has confidence in

stoic island Apr 16, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Get that

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@sleek valley on a prebuilt or something?

sleek valley Apr 16, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Yes. I’ve already had the pc. I’m upgrading those parts

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Might have to add ram but I’m not to worried about that. More concerned on doing the mobo and cpu myself.

foggy hazel Apr 16, 2020, 9:38 PM

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@sleek valley read the manual

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not a joke

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take your time, read the manual

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and then take it step by step

sleek valley Apr 16, 2020, 9:39 PM

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I understand that part. But I understand that like one wrong move and I can fry my pc. And I can read all day, but visual helps too

foggy hazel Apr 16, 2020, 9:39 PM

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one "wrong move" wont fry your machine

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a bunch of harebrained moves will

sleek valley Apr 16, 2020, 9:40 PM

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That’s kind of the vibe I’ve been getting from reading up on it

foggy hazel Apr 16, 2020, 9:40 PM

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you have to be majestic levels of unlucky to damage anything

sleek valley Apr 16, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Okay. I know about the whole static part etc. just nervous I guess haha.

foggy hazel Apr 16, 2020, 9:41 PM

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as i said, take your time

sleek valley Apr 16, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Yea. Okay.

foggy hazel Apr 16, 2020, 9:41 PM

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it might seem "simple"

little osprey Apr 16, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Why can’t I post a link

foggy hazel Apr 16, 2020, 9:41 PM

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but there really isnt any replacement for taking your time and reading the manual and checking things an extra time :)

sleek valley Apr 16, 2020, 9:41 PM

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I’m an electrican and I work with PLC plates. But doing this upgrade scares me more than anything haha

foggy hazel Apr 16, 2020, 9:42 PM

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:)

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think about it like this: Experience

sleek valley Apr 16, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Yea true

foggy hazel Apr 16, 2020, 9:42 PM

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i have been doing this for a couple decades +

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so i dont really even think about it

sleek valley Apr 16, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Okay, do you mind if I DM you and ask you a couple questions? I don’t want to blow up this channel

foggy hazel Apr 16, 2020, 9:43 PM

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but i sure as heck think about things if i am thinking about touching the breaker box in the basement

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there are no stupid questions, only silly answers :)

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so dont worry about blowing up the channel

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but IF you feel better about asking in a dm, by all means, please do :)

toxic wind Apr 16, 2020, 9:52 PM

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is the gigabyte rtx 2070 for $370 worth it?

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deal of the day

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or whatever

foggy hazel Apr 16, 2020, 9:57 PM

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did you fall asleep @sleek valley ?

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 10:00 PM

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@toxic wind okay deal. Tho depends on cooler. A better cooled 2060S for a bit more may be better appreciated

small mural Apr 16, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Well i opted to upgrade my mobo to something with the B365 chipset

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In order to accomodate the I5 9400

cold sorrel Apr 16, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Ah man. It looks like the RGB fans I wanted are now discontinued.

little osprey Apr 16, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Looking for a fair priced 2070 super

latent storm Apr 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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reference

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it looks the best imo

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for the price anyways

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also should i wait until september to get ryzen 4000

desert mulch Apr 17, 2020, 1:08 AM

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i need a wifi card what is a good one for gaming

sullen spoke Apr 17, 2020, 1:13 AM

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there isn't really a specific card that is good for gaming, just good wifi cards

desert mulch Apr 17, 2020, 1:14 AM

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ok what is a good price for one

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or do u know a good one

compact hill Apr 17, 2020, 1:15 AM

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I mean like 50 for a high bandwidth one I think like 200mbps

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I might be wrong

sullen spoke Apr 17, 2020, 1:15 AM

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this one is pretty nice https://www.newegg.com/asus-pce-ac68-pci-express/p/N82E16833320173?Description=ASUS PCE-AC68 AC1900&cm_re=ASUS_PCE-AC68_AC1900-_-33-320-173-_-Product&quicklink=true

compact hill Apr 17, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Havnt checked prices in a while

sullen spoke Apr 17, 2020, 1:16 AM

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this is a pricier one tho

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I wouldn't spend more than $100

desert mulch Apr 17, 2020, 1:16 AM

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i only have 75$ dollars 😦

compact hill Apr 17, 2020, 1:16 AM

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What's your internet speed?

buoyant flame Apr 17, 2020, 1:17 AM

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That one is kinda overkill so don't sweat it lol

desert mulch Apr 17, 2020, 1:17 AM

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ok and i dont know what my internet speed is i would have to ask my dad and he is doing work or something

sullen spoke Apr 17, 2020, 1:17 AM

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you can run a speed test

desert mulch Apr 17, 2020, 1:17 AM

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how do i do that

sullen spoke Apr 17, 2020, 1:17 AM

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https://www.speedtest.net/

Speedtest.net

Speedtest by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test

Test your Internet connection bandwidth to locations around the world with this interactive broadband speed test from Ookla

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it tests upload and download speeds as well as ping

desert mulch Apr 17, 2020, 1:19 AM

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57.72 download and 7.80 upload but in my area there has been some problems with internet becuase of corona

sullen spoke Apr 17, 2020, 1:21 AM

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something like this looks fine https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-rnx-ac1900pcev2-pci-express/p/N82E16833166141?Description=wifi cards&cm_re=wifi_cards-_-33-166-141-_-Product

buoyant flame Apr 17, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Still seems kinda expensive tho right?

desert mulch Apr 17, 2020, 1:22 AM

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i dont know anything about wifi cards so idk

sullen spoke Apr 17, 2020, 1:22 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/fenvi-fv-ax200-pci-express/p/0XM-00JK-00060?Description=802.11ax&cm_re=802.11ax-_-9SIADXZ9BX8105-_-Product

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I'm no wifi card wiz but this one looks good and not very expensive^

buoyant flame Apr 17, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Ya

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It does

desert mulch Apr 17, 2020, 1:25 AM

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ok ill order that one i already have all my parts for my build so i started it last night so hopefully by the time i get this i can install it and go

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i did the speed test again and this time i got 68.91 download and 7.66 upload is that a good score

buoyant flame Apr 17, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Its decent

desert mulch Apr 17, 2020, 1:28 AM

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ok

mossy pine Apr 17, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Can anyone recommend a good cheap Wi-Fi and Bluetooth adapter card so I can get wireless connectivity on my PC

buoyant flame Apr 17, 2020, 1:44 AM

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Look up 5 messages this

next ibex Apr 17, 2020, 2:18 AM

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I went to install a rx 5700 in my system which is a ryzen 5 2600 b350m bazooka 16 gb trident z 3200 speed and a off brand 500 watt psu and nothing would turn on or light up

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I was wondering if anyone had suggestions or anything would help

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Also I took it out turned it on and the rgb would light up and the cpu fan would spin but it wouldn’t post and I tried it with the old gpu and same thing happened as the 5700

marsh meadow Apr 17, 2020, 3:19 AM

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I want to upgrade my current rig. I want to replace my outdated motherboard and graphics card with a more current model but need it to support Vista or Windows XP

sullen spoke Apr 17, 2020, 3:22 AM

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riot bought hypixel?

lime forge Apr 17, 2020, 3:22 AM

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what

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WHAAAAAA

sullen spoke Apr 17, 2020, 3:22 AM

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ye

lime forge Apr 17, 2020, 3:22 AM

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V

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sullen spoke Apr 17, 2020, 3:22 AM

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i don't understand it

lime forge Apr 17, 2020, 3:23 AM

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eh screw hytale

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its literally roblox x minecraft

little osprey Apr 17, 2020, 3:26 AM

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is the 750$ build he just made posted anywhere?

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like the specs

oak moss Apr 17, 2020, 4:36 AM

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is there any good wifi adapters?

lime forge Apr 17, 2020, 4:36 AM

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i have this one

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https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-PCE-AC68-Dual-Band-Wireless-Adapter/dp/B00F42V83C/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=PCE+AC+68&qid=1587098206&sr=8-1

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it boosted my speeds from 30mbps to 200+

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best upgrade ive ever added to my PC

oak moss Apr 17, 2020, 4:39 AM

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i just dont wanna run a whole ethernet cable from my living room to my bedroom

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 4:41 AM

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You upgrading your build or haven't built it yet

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Because you could get a Mobo with integrated wifi

oak moss Apr 17, 2020, 4:41 AM

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@stoic island thats one thing i forgot when i bought my mb.

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but yes, building it

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 4:42 AM

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So you already have mb?

oak moss Apr 17, 2020, 4:42 AM

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yes

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Wifi cards are weird

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I don't quite know which are good

oak moss Apr 17, 2020, 4:52 AM

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i might snag that. @lime forge

lime forge Apr 17, 2020, 4:52 AM

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i really need to get a referral code haha

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anyways

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before you buy it

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what is your internet plan rated for?

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for example, our plan is 600mbps down

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i got a gigabit card because i wanna be future proof

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also that card has good antennas

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but you could save a buck getting a cheaper card if you dont need gigabit

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but i recommend it so your connection isnt throttled

oak moss Apr 17, 2020, 4:55 AM

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its not much but Im supposed to get 200mbps download. but i download some games and i get 90max. sometimes 120-130 on a good day

lime forge Apr 17, 2020, 4:56 AM

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thats good

oak moss Apr 17, 2020, 4:59 AM

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i could get that card & have no problems?

tepid basalt Apr 17, 2020, 6:55 AM

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wifi card reviews are really confusing

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with any model

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there're half praising it

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and the other half just bash it

mortal rampart Apr 17, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Is there a board that supports all generations of ryzen without a bios update??

tepid basalt Apr 17, 2020, 7:12 AM

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x570

mortal rampart Apr 17, 2020, 7:20 AM

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Thx

woven sluice Apr 17, 2020, 11:42 AM

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Trying to build a deskPC. Any help? I can’t find a good desk with glass top.

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 12:05 PM

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@mortal rampart there are a number of b450 boards that got built with support from the start.

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so, unless you specifically need the other features that x570 brings, there should not logically be a reason to spend a bunch more for boards with that chipset.

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 12:57 PM

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hello. am trying to upgrade my pc but am not sure what to upgrade first, could someone help me with this

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:05 PM

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if you give a bit more details about what you have, then we can try @autumn spade

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Intel Core i7-7700K , Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti, Samsung 850 Evo 500GB , Asrock Z270 Extreme4, Seagate IronWolf 4TB (2016), DDR4 8GBytes@foggy hazel

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:23 PM

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just to make certain, your OS is on the ssd right?

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as for what to upgrade first, i would say GPU

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and then it just becomes a question of budget

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and psu

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:24 PM

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yes is on the ssd

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psu?

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:25 PM

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depending on what GPU you go for, your PSU (powersupply) might also need an upgrade

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:26 PM

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i was thinking on
PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB GDDR6 Graphics Card

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:26 PM

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that is a valid option

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:26 PM

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i want something i don't have to upgrade again in at least 3 to 5 years if possible

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what is a good psu you would recomend

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:27 PM

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the only one that can decide that is you

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because what you deem/find acceptable performance is entirely decided by you :)

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phanteks AMP is a good choice

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but, depending on what you have currently, you might be just fine

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:30 PM

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how would i check what psu i have

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:30 PM

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if you dont know from memory, open your case and look at the side of the psu :)

latent storm Apr 17, 2020, 1:33 PM

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idk how but can someone please make sure this kit will work with my motherboard

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WRK2FT/gskill-trident-z-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gtzrc

G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:33 PM

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it will work

latent storm Apr 17, 2020, 1:34 PM

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i got an asus tuf b450 pro gaming

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:34 PM

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i know @latent storm :)

latent storm Apr 17, 2020, 1:35 PM

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i remember you telling me a while so that the specifics matter, and i matched the part numbers and it was a cl18 kit but i changed it to the cl16 kit so i just wanted to make sure

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thank you

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Seasonic X series 80 Plus Gold

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:37 PM

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how long have you had that PSU @autumn spade ?

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@latent storm you are very welcome :)

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:37 PM

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for a while is the oldest component i own

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:38 PM

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okay

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the following is not meant to scare you

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:38 PM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:38 PM

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however, depending on how long you have had that psu, you are way past the normal warranty on it

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the x series got released back in 2009

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and it has a 7 year warranty

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:39 PM

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oh lol so i do need a new one

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:39 PM

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keep in mind, nothing says that it is un-safe to run a psu way past its warranty

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in general, i personally and at work, prefer not doing so

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:41 PM

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it as work real good all this time so i don't complain but since am thinking on upgrading

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i will get a new one

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:41 PM

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i would recommend that :)

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:41 PM

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recommendation and what for RAM

celest horizon Apr 17, 2020, 1:42 PM

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I have one of those x series golds too, the fan curve got annoying after a while, replaced fan, cut pwm wire, still works fine.

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Bought it Jan 2011.

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:43 PM

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as i mentioned earlier, phanteks AMP (which is a seasonic unit, but for less money)

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:43 PM

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i have never had a problem with mine still work as the first day

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:43 PM

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aye, and as i said, the intention was not to scare you

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or to force you to buy a new psu

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:44 PM

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out of stock

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:44 PM

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it was meant as information that you might not be aware of

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:44 PM

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i know thank for giving me the info i been looking to upgrade my pc component for a while now

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i just uwsuly spend the money in something else

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okay found one in amazon

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:46 PM

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for what price?

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:46 PM

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newegg is out of stock

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:46 PM

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on the 550w yes

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they have the 650 in stock at 106 usd

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:47 PM

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139.99

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:47 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4xGnTW/phanteks-amp-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p650g_us01

Phanteks AMP 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

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that is plenty enough juice

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:48 PM

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is saying out of stock

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:48 PM

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gah!

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:49 PM

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lol i have to spend a bit more or wait

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:49 PM

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or get another psu

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:49 PM

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or yeah get another

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:50 PM

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let me just yell at the local psu nut

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@cursive wharf you awake?

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because i know my seasonics etc, but i really dont know much beyond that in regards to psu's

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because they compete very well in the stuff i normally work with

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also, EU vs US

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:53 PM

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hmmm i just know the basic and read a lot and check reviews

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how about the GPU PowerColor RED DEVIL Radeon RX 5700 XT DirectX 12 AXRX 5700 XT 8GBD6-3DHE/OC 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 CrossFireX Support ATX Video Card

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that or is there something better in about the same price range

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400 to 600

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:56 PM

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that is a fair range

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:56 PM

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yeah i told myself i had to have about that much to get something good

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:57 PM

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its a bit of a weird mix really

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:57 PM

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is it i feel they are all expensive

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:58 PM

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the 2070 super at around the 500usd mark is probably what you should aim at

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:59 PM

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okay and how it that better?

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 1:59 PM

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long or short answer?

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 1:59 PM

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long

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lol

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 2:00 PM

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https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2516?vs=2522

GPU 2019 Benchmarks - Compare Products on AnandTech

GPU 2019 benchmarks: Compare two products side-by-side or see a cascading list of product ratings along with our annotations.

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thats the basis for it

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 2:00 PM

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also what brand of the 2070

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 2:00 PM

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nvidia makes the chip

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the reason i even recommend that card is your budget

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i you had said 300-500 the 5700xt would have been the first choice

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 2:01 PM

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oh i see

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 2:01 PM

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but 400-600 ... the 2070super IS faster

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its your choice if you want to pay for that

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 2:02 PM

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER Founders Edition - 8GB GDDR6 1770 MHz RAM - 2560 Cores - Ray Tracing - DirectX 12 - DP/HDMI/DVI-DL - VR Ready

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 2:02 PM

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also, depending on how much value you put into the nvidia features, that has some worth too

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 2:02 PM

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that card?

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 2:02 PM

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thats the "standard" version

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any of them can work, it doesnt matter much

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by "standard" i mean, its the reference model

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(which is not a bad thing)

digital pecan Apr 17, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Should i use DP or HDMI?

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 2:05 PM

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EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER FTW3 ULTRA GAMING, 08G-P4-3277-KR, 8GB GDDR6, iCX2 Technology, RGB LED, Metal Backplate this one is on my price range

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 2:06 PM

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the founders edition "should" be 500 usd

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 2:06 PM

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669

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 2:06 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3sJmP6/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8-gb-video-card-900-1g180-2515-000

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Video Card

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 2:06 PM

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is what is for in newegg

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 2:07 PM

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then we grab it somewhere else

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 2:07 PM

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good idea lol

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 2:18 PM

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I believe this is one of the cheaper 3rd party 2070supers
https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2070-super-08g-p4-3071-kr/p/N82E16814487456

buoyant flame Apr 17, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Sometimes the gigabyte windforce has good prices too

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 2:30 PM

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I like EVGA now for some reason, but it's at the same price iirc

autumn spade Apr 17, 2020, 2:30 PM

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idc for price as much as preformance so if it is a bit more expensive i just save mor emoney

small mural Apr 17, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Well.

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I'm upgrading my system. Just waiting for the mobo.

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My current Mobo, GPU, and CPU, Ram are as follows Msi B250M Gaming Pro, Gt 710 V2 (2gb GDDR5), Pentium G4400, 8gb GDDR4 (GEIL EVO POTENZA 2x4gb)

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And then the CPU, Mobo, and GPU are being swapped.

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New specs will be I5 9400, ASROCK Pro4 B365, Geforce GTX 1650 (4gb GDDR5)

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I'm looking forward to the large upgrade 😈

modern shadow Apr 17, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Bruh going blue? Don’t go red

buoyant flame Apr 17, 2020, 5:21 PM

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What does that statement even mean

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wuuut

terse cairn Apr 17, 2020, 5:29 PM

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I'm looking to build a new PC, and I'm going AMD. Haven't decided on 3600x or 3700x yet, but I have been doing a bunch of YouTube watching, reddit reading, and general internet searching. What is the point of going with an X570 motherboard over a good B450? From what I have read, unless you are going to use SLI or PCIe 4.0 for storage it's kind of pointless. GPUs can't even use all the bandwith of PCIe 3.0?? Does anyone have a good reason to spend more money on the X570 mobo that I haven't been able to find?

buoyant flame Apr 17, 2020, 5:32 PM

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No

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Lol

sharp sundial Apr 17, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Is the "Seagate BarraCuda 510 M.2 2280 1TB PCIe G3 x4, NVMe 1.3 3D TLC Internal Solid State Drive" a good SSD?

worthy tendon Apr 17, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Hey what's better, Radeon Rx 570 or a 1060 something

lime forge Apr 17, 2020, 6:38 PM

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rx570 is a fantastic card for 1080p gaming on budget

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they often go used for about $100

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(the 8gb variant)

worthy tendon Apr 17, 2020, 6:38 PM

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I have the 4

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A friend says they have a 1060 they are not using

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Was worried about bottle necking from the 1600 AF cpu

lime forge Apr 17, 2020, 6:48 PM

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1600af wont bottleneck anything imo

modern shadow Apr 17, 2020, 6:52 PM

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If I get a okay here, I guess the build is good https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7k9QgJ

System Builder

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someone okay this

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 6:58 PM

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ok

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SSD isn't great, but has dram so good enough I guess

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could go for 3600mhz cl16 kit but if you need to save a buck, 3200mhz works.

sharp sundial Apr 17, 2020, 7:58 PM

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h

cursive wharf Apr 17, 2020, 7:59 PM

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@autumn spade @foggy hazel currently best option for 650w would be Enermax Revolution DF. Basically same price as AMP but a bit better in quality. Last I checked was in stock

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 8:04 PM

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thank you @cursive wharf

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Hello everyone! Looking for a bit of guidance here!
Going to build a new workstation that I’ll also use for gaming, editing videos, and mining every so often when I’m away from home.
I have $1500-$2000 to spend and already have a NVIDIA 1070 for my gpu.
I was looking at the AMD 3900x and 3950x for a cpu, is the 3950x really worth the extra $300?

cold sorrel Apr 17, 2020, 9:14 PM

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The Enermax power supply you just recommended is out of stock on Newegg.

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:14 PM

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@polar goblet that is up to you to decide, it is 12 vs 16 cores

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Benefits of those extra 4 cores?
Just better processing, faster?

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:17 PM

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"ability" to do more at the same time

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is the core of it

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the question of "does that make a difference for you" ... only you can decide

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Alrighty 👌🏼
So I guess I should just build out each shopping list for both cpus and see what’s in my budget.

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:18 PM

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aye

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:18 PM

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What motherboard should I go with?

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:18 PM

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from a "only" gaming pov, the 3950x doesnt make a heck of a lot of sense

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but from a mixed workload (and especially video/render related stuff) it makes a LOT of sense

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so again, comes back to what you value and how well you understand your own workload

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Yeah. Especially if I want to edit videos and then be doing other things on IE

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:20 PM

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re: what mainboard: the build is going to be "as is" for a number of years right?

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Yes. Trying to build something that’ll work for 4-5 years at least

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:21 PM

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then go with a x570 chipset board

digital pecan Apr 17, 2020, 9:21 PM

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I use the MSI MPG x570 gaming edge wifi

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:21 PM

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around the 200-ish USD mark

digital pecan Apr 17, 2020, 9:21 PM

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the price is a little hiogh but it will lasdt a while

cold sorrel Apr 17, 2020, 9:22 PM

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That MSI board is the same one I'm planning to get

digital pecan Apr 17, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Nice

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it is excellent

deep skiff Apr 17, 2020, 9:22 PM

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the tuf is a pretty decent board if you dont wanna spend a lot

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:23 PM

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the gaming edge is fairly well priced

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but then again, most of them are

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:23 PM

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MSI X570 gaming edge WiFi. 3.2 GEN 2 $200

cold sorrel Apr 17, 2020, 9:23 PM

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I'm leery of going too cheap on things, but I'm also not going to buy a top of the line board.

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:23 PM

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its only when you hit the 250+ mark that things go a bit bonkers

deep skiff Apr 17, 2020, 9:23 PM

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didnt msi have some wonky things with vrms or is that fixed

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:24 PM

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some people complained about MSI on the launch stuff @deep skiff, that might be what you are remembering?

deep skiff Apr 17, 2020, 9:24 PM

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yea

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all i know about msi is the unify helped fix the issue, idk anything else they did so they probably fixed it

little osprey Apr 17, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Here's a basis:https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zKvF3t, the Mobo's pretty cheap but high quality, and the PSU is almost industrial quality.

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Looks like my two best options are the
ASUS TUF 570 $190
MSI MPG 570 $200

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:25 PM

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weird

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200$ for 32gb of ram?

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:25 PM

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water is overrated for a build like that

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:25 PM

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pretty expensive

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:26 PM

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and 4 * 8gig is imo not a smart move for a new build

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might as well go 2 * 16

digital pecan Apr 17, 2020, 9:26 PM

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yeah if u want to add more later

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Naed, you think it's good to recommend the arctic freezer 2 AIO?

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GN reviewed it to be very good, better than most AIOs, and is at ~95$

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:27 PM

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considering i generally dont like AIO's, i think i am the wrong person to ask about that @stoic island :)

cold sorrel Apr 17, 2020, 9:27 PM

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This is what I've mostly settled on for a build (though I'm going to have to wait on the power supply and graphics card coming back into stock):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wznnCL

System Builder

deep skiff Apr 17, 2020, 9:27 PM

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a lot of rgb in that build, that increases the price too

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:27 PM

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The point is because you're usually against AIOs, but I wonder if that could replace an air cooler.

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:27 PM

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re: aio: it has its place, i personally dont believe it is in a consumer build

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Alright

cold sorrel Apr 17, 2020, 9:27 PM

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... I know. But I wanted some RGB.

deep skiff Apr 17, 2020, 9:28 PM

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@cold sorrel i was talking about the other build urs is fine

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Okay so the MSI x570 motherboard should be fine? No problems?

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:28 PM

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@stoic island for me, it comes down to: if there is absolutely nothing else to upgrade, i might think about it in a consumer build.

deep skiff Apr 17, 2020, 9:28 PM

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ive heard decent things about the aio before gn tested it, doesnt look like it has any major issues

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:28 PM

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@polar goblet basically yes

cold sorrel Apr 17, 2020, 9:28 PM

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And I plan to acquire a pack of RGB fans on Amazon, even if the ones I originally wanted got discontinued

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:28 PM

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The price seems pretty good, thats why I think it might be better than other AIOs.

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Anyways lemme see if I can make a good build without gpu at 1500$.

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Okay power supply. I should only need 750w right?
105w cpu
100-200w on gpu

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:29 PM

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re: aio (again): also, keep in mind, i speak as someone that does a lot of builds, and services a LOT of builds, so convenience also counts for a LOT on my end :)

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@polar goblet technically you can do just fine with a 550

little osprey Apr 17, 2020, 9:30 PM

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@foggy hazel NO not in this situation

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:30 PM

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You can do fine with 550w.

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Hei might come in here with the calculations, but you can do fine with 550w.

cold sorrel Apr 17, 2020, 9:30 PM

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i want a 650 power supply just as futureproofing. I want this to be a system I can swap parts on and keep running for years.

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:30 PM

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@little osprey "NO not in this situation" <- do elaborate

little osprey Apr 17, 2020, 9:31 PM

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thats like saying a 550 will still be a 550 in 5 year, complete melarky

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Well lets look back 5 years shall we?

deep skiff Apr 17, 2020, 9:32 PM

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i mean you can run a 3950x and 2080 ti on a 450w psu rn

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:32 PM

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@polar goblet and that is a fair take, just dont go running for the hills with something like a 1k one

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Anyways, I think the thing with MSI x570 is some of the boards' VRMs might be below par, below even some of their b450 boards

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little osprey Apr 17, 2020, 9:32 PM

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PSU's deteriorate that's what I'm referencing

deep skiff Apr 17, 2020, 9:32 PM

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a good one shouldnt deteriorate that fast

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:33 PM

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@little osprey so, you dismiss experience with a situation that is based on buying bargin bin parts?

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:34 PM

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When did all the evga psu go out of stock lmao

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Crypto brand, how much storage do you think you'll want/need?

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Might as well go something like 1TB plus?

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:35 PM

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For example, do you want like a 1tb NVME ssd plus 4tb hdd? or do you only need like 500gb ssd plus 2tb hdd?

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:36 PM

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1 tb m.2 + sata disk for scratch + hdd for storage is the sane option

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:38 PM

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I think last I was looking at was the Samsung 860 who 1TB SSD

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:38 PM

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well, heres my take on it
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gsyB9G

System Builder

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idk what else to upgrade

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:39 PM

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looks solid enough

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would add in another sata ssd

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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reason for the d15s is ram clearance

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yea you can easily do that

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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as scratch disk as mentioned earlier

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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IDK good sata ssds tho

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other maybe qvo

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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just about anything

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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ima put in a qvo

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1500$.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BBN7dm

System Builder

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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its intended purpose is to get trashed as the scratch

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:41 PM

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I don't quite know what you mean by that..?

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 9:41 PM

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scratch disk = term/name for the disk you "work/store" temporary files on when doing editing

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Ah.

cold sorrel Apr 17, 2020, 9:44 PM

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I'm still sad at the fans I liked so much being discontinued. I really wish I had gone ahead and bought them

digital pecan Apr 17, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Which ones were they?

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you could probably still find them elsewhere

cold sorrel Apr 17, 2020, 9:46 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/EZDIY-FAB-Moonlight-Motherboard-Computer-Multiple/dp/B07XDYKC91/ref=pd_ybh_a_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=KVVF0EQKAV6Q8MBBC7VN

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:47 PM

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what about uphere fans

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:47 PM

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@stoic island
Thanks for that list 👌🏼
What’s the difference between the 570 motherboard and this one?

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Which other x570 motherboard?

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Ah I can’t post the link or pic

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Can you give the name?

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 9:48 PM

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MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI Gaming Motherboard AMD AM4 SATA 6Gb/s M.2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 HDMI ATX

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 9:49 PM

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That one is a fair bit worse

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Unify is a tier S- board, that board is a tier D board.

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going off this tier list.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1137619-motherboard-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/

Linus Tech Tips

Motherboard Tier List v2 (currently AMD only)

Credit to:@VegetableStu @GoldenLag @LukeSavenije The following list is based on facts, ranked on power delivery and known problems. The list will include boards that support CPU overclocking available at retail from different brands. Currently only AMD boards are done because ...

cold sorrel Apr 17, 2020, 9:50 PM

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I mean, this might possibly be the replacement, it's six fans to the other page's five:
https://www.amazon.com/EZDIY-FAB-Moonlight-Motherboard-Computer-Multiple/dp/B07XDYKC91/ref=pd_ybh_a_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=KVVF0EQKAV6Q8MBBC7VN

simple stag Apr 17, 2020, 9:52 PM

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should i actually be worried about any static while building my PC?

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or is that mostly BS

digital pecan Apr 17, 2020, 9:54 PM

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u should be careful

simple stag Apr 17, 2020, 9:55 PM

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do i need to buy one of those little static bracelet things?

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ive read that alot of them dont even work

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 10:02 PM

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nope

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dont need them

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its good to have if you want it

cursive wharf Apr 17, 2020, 10:15 PM

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@deep skiff stock 3950x+2080Ti on 550w, not 450w. Idk if you went typo or mistaken, so just pointing that out

cold sorrel Apr 17, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I have an anti-static wrist strap, but I bought that and my repair kit for my PC repair class.

deep skiff Apr 17, 2020, 10:20 PM

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@cursive wharf i was talking with uv, not stock my bad

cursive wharf Apr 17, 2020, 10:24 PM

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I mean, technically average max would work on 450w stock. 2080Ti actual peak is like 375w but on a heavy workload it is usually like 280w

deep skiff Apr 17, 2020, 10:32 PM

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yeah true but it wouldnt really be the best situation

cold sorrel Apr 17, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Now, if I could just remember where I put that stupid kit

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Okay I’m back.
So what’s the difference in tiers for those motherboards? Does that mean performance?

buoyant flame Apr 17, 2020, 10:48 PM

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To an extent yes

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The higher the better(obviously) but you don't need a tier a or s for most use cases

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I have a tier D according to that list

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Okay.
Let’s talk ram.
Who’s running 32, who’s running 64?

eager chasm Apr 17, 2020, 10:57 PM

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32 is overkill for 99% of personal use cases

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unless you are running multiple VMs or doing super heavy workloads 64 is pretty much never needed unless you just want to throw money at it to say you have it

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a 4x8 setup is probably the way to go if you want overkill, but still reasonable ram

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 11:01 PM

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I'd say 32gb is overkill now, but gives you quite a bit of wiggle room for future proofing

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Okay good to know!

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I most likely need a cpu cooler huh?

stoic island Apr 17, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Ryzen has stock cooler

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Okay so not technically needed, just added for extra cooling?

eager chasm Apr 17, 2020, 11:08 PM

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even under load the stock coolers on the Ryzens generally do the job, as long as you aren't over clocking

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my 3700X stays in the mid 80's while doing folding at home, and that's not even with an aggressive fan curve

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 11:17 PM

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@eager chasm i dont as such disagree, however, something to keep in mind, is that going with 4 * 8 leaves you up a creek if you want to upgrade ram later

eager chasm Apr 17, 2020, 11:18 PM

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but for what use would you ever need to?

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 11:19 PM

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perhaps if you decide that your workload could benefit from it

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as in, lets say you currently think 32 gigs is enough, so you go with your suggestion of 4 * 8

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now, in a year or more, you decide that you want to actually make that 3900x do something useful and notice that you really really could use some more ram

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your suggestion leaves you with a set of ram that you wont be using

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which imo could be avoided easily by going 2*16 now

cursive wharf Apr 17, 2020, 11:22 PM

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plus 2x16 is easier to OC

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as a small bonus

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Yeah I’m gonna go with 2 16gb. So I can move to 64 if I want to later

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 11:22 PM

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and before someone brings up "but 2 * 16 costs more than 4 * 8"

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true

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you know what costs even more?

cursive wharf Apr 17, 2020, 11:22 PM

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not really actually

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 11:23 PM

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having a 4 * 8 set that sits in a drawer in a year

cursive wharf Apr 17, 2020, 11:23 PM

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2*16 kits are quite cheap last I checked

buoyant flame Apr 17, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Ya I actually found 4 *8 kits to cost more

cold sorrel Apr 17, 2020, 11:23 PM

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I'm just going with 2 8 GB sticks for right now

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 11:23 PM

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@buoyant flame those are the 4 * 8 "kits"

buoyant flame Apr 17, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Yes

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 11:23 PM

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most people do 2 * 2* 8

buoyant flame Apr 17, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Oh gotchu

cursive wharf Apr 17, 2020, 11:23 PM

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2 * 16 is usually cheaper $/gb then 2 * 8

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 11:24 PM

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as things were last i looked, i would agree Hei

eager chasm Apr 17, 2020, 11:24 PM

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4 Dimms has a minor benefit to performance as opposed to 2 dimms... forgot which tech youtuber tested it lol

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 11:24 PM

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since when?

celest horizon Apr 17, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Depends if it's two dual rank dimms vs 2 single rank dimms.

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 11:25 PM

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also true Forks

cursive wharf Apr 17, 2020, 11:25 PM

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if just about everything is the same spec wise, the 2 * 16gb would be easier to OC then 4 * 8gb because less silicon lottery

foggy hazel Apr 17, 2020, 11:25 PM

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however, we are then firmly into the "i must have more points in X benchmark" territory

eager chasm Apr 17, 2020, 11:26 PM

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true lol

celest horizon Apr 17, 2020, 11:26 PM

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It's just as hard for the memory controller to drive two dual rank dimms of 16GB each as it is to run four single rank 8GB dimms.

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It would be a bit easier to OC 2 x 16Gb vs 4x8GB on a two dimm board e.g. z390 dark, z390 XI apex etc, vs something like a z390 XI hero with 4 slots.

latent storm Apr 17, 2020, 11:27 PM

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should i uhh buy my cpu or all my storage from this paycheck

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Gskill vs Corsair memory.
Anything matter other than almost double the price? Lol

celest horizon Apr 17, 2020, 11:27 PM

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But putting 2x16GB dual rank dimms in a T topology, 4 slot board like any asus z390 - that's not good for OCing

cursive wharf Apr 17, 2020, 11:28 PM

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@polar goblet depends on model

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some models from either brand suck and some are good

eager chasm Apr 17, 2020, 11:28 PM

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I yeeted part of the US stimulus at tech... only about $100 XD

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Gskill trident z NEO (for amd ryzen) 2 x 16gb ddr4 3600

celest horizon Apr 17, 2020, 11:29 PM

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^ good stuff

cursive wharf Apr 17, 2020, 11:29 PM

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okay stuff, but still lots of Neo 3600

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some are b-die

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some arent

celest horizon Apr 17, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Especially since a ton of x570 boards, at least from asus and Gigabyte run a daisy chain layout - best* to use 2 of the 4 dimms.

Not really a huge issue unless you're really into tweaking memory.

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I greatly prefer g skill stuff over corsair, corsair likes to play musical chairs with what chips they use within the same models of memory sticks.

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Also lifetime warranty on g-skill.

modern shadow Apr 17, 2020, 11:36 PM

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This build good?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6m2Gwh

System Builder

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note: I already bought the gtx 1650, dont change it. plan to get a better on later

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final okay before comfirmation

celest horizon Apr 17, 2020, 11:37 PM

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For that price, you could probably get a 1TB nvme drive.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/g377bv/ssd_brief_wd_sn750_nvme_120_2349910010_w/

r/buildapcsales - [SSD] Brief WD SN750 NVMe - $120 ($234.99-$100-10...

392 votes and 209 comments so far on Reddit

modern shadow Apr 17, 2020, 11:40 PM

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at firsy, I thought of WD 3D NAND or crucial p1, but people voted it out

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@celest horizon

celest horizon Apr 17, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Maybe they were thinking of the WD Blue

modern shadow Apr 17, 2020, 11:49 PM

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yes they are

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is the WD blue bad?

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@celest horizon

celest horizon Apr 17, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Not really. But if you're spending ~$115 - don't you want the best you can get for $115?

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https://www.anandtech.com/show/13760/the-western-digital-wd-black-sn750-ssd-review/8

The Western Digital WD Black SN750 SSD Review: Why Fix What Isn't B...

modern shadow Apr 17, 2020, 11:52 PM

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I really want to cut costs as much as possible

celest horizon Apr 17, 2020, 11:53 PM

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I recommend reading through the comments thread on that reddit link, look around that subreddit to see what people think of various drives' value.

modern shadow Apr 17, 2020, 11:54 PM

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oh Im buying this after the quarantine too so I don't know will there be another good dell

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deal

celest horizon Apr 17, 2020, 11:56 PM

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That subreddit would be a good place to look when you need one.

modern shadow Apr 17, 2020, 11:56 PM

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is that team t-force good?

polar goblet Apr 17, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Do they still sell the:
Corsair Icue 220t rgb black?
Apparently $100 on corsiar website but out of stock, $228 on new egg

humble jacinth Apr 18, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Crypto, I'm looking at the 465 for 150 on Amazon

polar goblet Apr 18, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Yeah seems like the 220 is out of stock most places.

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Gonna get the 280x

humble jacinth Apr 18, 2020, 12:05 AM

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How much is the 280x?

polar goblet Apr 18, 2020, 12:05 AM

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$164

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That 465 is nice to 👍🏼
But I like the cleaner look on the 280x

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Question about psus.
Looking at evga.
What’s the difference on these G3, G5, GA...

zenith glacier Apr 18, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Help on this measure

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📎 image0.jpg

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I am buying valve for watercooling p

viral ore Apr 18, 2020, 3:38 AM

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idk, i would think thats a G3/8 based on physical size

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no, thats a G1/4

zenith glacier Apr 18, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Oh good but my husband said no need oh well

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We going Use liquid bottle and tube to drain

sly python Apr 18, 2020, 4:09 AM

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@foggy hazel Looks like the freezing is back, but now its like 4 hours aafter its been running and the event log is shows - Kernal power 41 + Event ID: 28 Error setting traits on Provider {8444a4fb-d8d3-4f38-84f8-89960a1ef12f}. Error: 0xC0000001 = Hardware freezing no dumplog just a hard stop

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im starting to assume the PSU is dying but not sure how to test it b4 investing into a new one

modest vortex Apr 18, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Interestingg

covert torrent Apr 18, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Goodmorning

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I need coffee

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Anyhow...I am building a computer and the size case is the issue

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A midtown at case would be fine normally but I am adding a dedicated graphics card and therefore cooling is an issue so I am wondering if a midsize tower will be too cramped and therefore a bit too warm.

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Any feedback is appreciated

lyric yarrow Apr 18, 2020, 8:04 AM

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nzxt all the way

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h510i

sharp perch Apr 18, 2020, 9:05 AM

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Hello

sleek lotus Apr 18, 2020, 10:06 AM

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📎 Screenshot_2020-04-18_at_13.01.07.png

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📎 Screenshot_2020-04-18_at_13.01.21.png

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is the psu gonna be enough to power that build

sudden turret Apr 18, 2020, 10:12 AM

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yeah

sleek lotus Apr 18, 2020, 10:24 AM

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ok

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 2:40 PM

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@covert torrent A midtower case is more then enough for most builds. Don't go for NZXT cases, NZXT cases usually have bad airflow.

proper ore Apr 18, 2020, 2:45 PM

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whats the difference between a 2070 and a 2070 ultra?

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 2:48 PM

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@proper ore ultra is just a marketing term.
2070 Super is actually a different, better card then the 2070.

proper ore Apr 18, 2020, 2:49 PM

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thanks!

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 2:49 PM

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@sly python back to the drawing board it is then

covert torrent Apr 18, 2020, 2:50 PM

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@lyric yarrow.....and have you personal experience in this way?

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 2:51 PM

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@proper ore on the nvidia side, (in the selection of current chips) neutral, TI and Super are the only consumer chip variants on the desktop

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neutral = just a number

covert torrent Apr 18, 2020, 2:51 PM

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@stoic island.....as evidenced by?

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 2:51 PM

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@covert torrent what case and what graphicscard?

covert torrent Apr 18, 2020, 2:54 PM

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ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER DirectX 12 ROG-STRIX-RTX2070S-8G-GAMING 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

And....Corsair Carbide Series 275R CC-9011132-WW Black Steel / Plastic / Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case

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But I'm open to suggestions as things go out of stock quickly

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 2:57 PM

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@covert torrent your earlier stated worry about cooling, i dont see the problem with those parts

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 2:58 PM

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What

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Midtower cases are more than enough for dedicated GPU?

covert torrent Apr 18, 2020, 2:59 PM

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@foggy hazel...outstanding

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Cooling is essential

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 2:59 PM

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@covert torrent i am curious about where you got the idea that it would be limiting?

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because the term/word/concept "midtower" does not really mean much

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 3:00 PM

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(unless we talking vertical mount maybe?)
(I also assume midtower as ATX)

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 3:00 PM

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there are plenty of "midtower" cases that are horrible for airflow

covert torrent Apr 18, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Comments about "cramped" quarters in some midtower cases

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 3:00 PM

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there are also plenty that are fantastic

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"cramped" <- if used in the context of a review/comment about the interior of something like the 275R.... says a lot more about the amount of hardware you are trying to force into the case

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(you can only fit so many elephants in a car)

covert torrent Apr 18, 2020, 3:01 PM

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👍

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 3:02 PM

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does that cover all your questions @covert torrent ?

meager relic Apr 18, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Hi, if someone wouldn't mind, what's a good build that absolutely must have support for vulkan api, at least 8 gigs of RAM, 1tb hdd, air cooled. Capable of running Skyrim and eso with tons of add-ons/mods no monitor/keyboard/mouse is needed looking for a graphic card that's at least 3 inputs. Vga dvi and HDMI is fine, or all HDMI or 1 HDMI and 2 dvi. Don't need rgb, do not wanter cooled. I want a basic case.. black... Simple.... Plain

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 3:43 PM

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@meager relic budget?

meager relic Apr 18, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Would like under 800

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But 800 is max

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 3:44 PM

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you got any hardware at all right now?

meager relic Apr 18, 2020, 3:44 PM

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1 monitor with HDMI input, I can get keyboard/ mouse later

rocky thistle Apr 18, 2020, 4:02 PM

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ok so i have a 900 to possibly 1000 dollar budget. I would like to be able to game and stream on this pc and would like to have a dual monitor setup ( im not sure if having 2 monitors even effects the gpus performance) i would like to have at least a 2060 gpu if possible but whatever you think would be best. Just dm me or tag me if you have a list or some ideas on what i should buy and what i should wait to get (with this whole pandemic thing going on) Thanks to anybody who wants to help

meager relic Apr 18, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Lol right.... Cause the world is burning right now

woeful elm Apr 18, 2020, 4:03 PM

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check out Linus' recent live stream build, he says $800 but its closer to ur budget in reality

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 4:03 PM

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ima make a part list

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:03 PM

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@meager relic your audio gear is usb or mini-jack based?

meager relic Apr 18, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Usb

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Don't know what's cheaper

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So I'm thinking usb

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:04 PM

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that is your call

meager relic Apr 18, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Which is cheaper or are they both the same?

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:04 PM

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mini-jack based can go way higher

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but it can also go way lower

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but for the context of my question, the lower stuff doesnt matter

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another question: Do you need/want wifi ?

meager relic Apr 18, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Yeah, I'm not taking risk it chances, usb has never given me problems especially as I plan on using Linux a lot, besides win10.. hence why I need vulkan api.

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I need WiFi card

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 4:06 PM

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huh, I actually come really close to fitting a 2070 super in 1000$.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cZHMDx

System Builder

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:06 PM

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you could just go CX @stoic island

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 4:06 PM

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maybe downgrade the psu to a cx

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yea

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:06 PM

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and as always, hdd is a simple upgrade later on

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 4:06 PM

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cx pretty expensive rn tho...
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tKdVHB

System Builder

woeful elm Apr 18, 2020, 4:06 PM

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if ya got an old laptop u could use that as a wifi card XD

meager relic Apr 18, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Ha

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No

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Never

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 4:07 PM

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mobo wifi is an option too

meager relic Apr 18, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Never never never will I use a laptop

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:07 PM

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@meager relic https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ksxJPn

System Builder

meager relic Apr 18, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Laptops break on me

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:08 PM

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that is a board with wifi @meager relic

woeful elm Apr 18, 2020, 4:08 PM

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was joking that you could use teh wifi card on an old laptop and pass the internet via ethernet to a pc

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 4:08 PM

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@rocky thistle right now, you can nearly get 2070 super with 1000$. if price on say the PSU goes down, it'll be 1000$.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tKdVHB

System Builder

meager relic Apr 18, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Ty naed, does this work with vulkan api?

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:09 PM

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@stoic island as for CX being expensive, that is "just" because we are selecting the 650w vs the 550 we used to select

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@meager relic yes

meager relic Apr 18, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Thank you

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 4:09 PM

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I mean the 550w isn't showing up

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so I assume it's out of stock

grand spindle Apr 18, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Hey guys If you remember about a week ago, i asked about a upgrade for a ryzen 3 CPU, and i went with what was recommended and went with ryzen 5 1600. OS- Windows 10 Pro 64Bit with License Key
Motherboard- GigaByte B450 Aorus M MicroAtx
CPU- Ryzen 3 2200G 4Core 4Thread 3.5Ghz
CPU Cooler- AMD Wraith Spire Cooler
Memory- Patriot 8gB (2x4gB) Viper DDR4 3200
SSD- Silicon Power 512GB NVMe PCIe Gen3x4 SSD
HDD- Seagate ST1000LM024 1tB Sata III HDD
Video- MSI RX 580 ARMOR OC 8gB PCIe (Dedicated)
Power Supply- Cooler Master Elite V3 500W ATX
Case- MasterBox Lite 3.1 Micro ATX
Case Fans- 2x 120mm Fans Front
Case Fans- 1x 120mm Fans Rear
Internet- 1gB Wired Ethernet
Internet- Netgear WNDA3100v3 N600 Wireless Dual Band USB Adapter

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:10 PM

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@meager relic something to keep in mind, yes, the storage is "only" 512gig, but it is fast storage and as mentioned earlier, adding something like a 2tb hdd is a 3-4 minute job, and will cost you 55ish usd :)

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Use pcpartpicker?

woeful elm Apr 18, 2020, 4:10 PM

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thermaltake has a good 500w for like $50 on amazon

grand spindle Apr 18, 2020, 4:10 PM

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this is my complete PC specs. i was wondering what direction you guys would recommend for a GPU.

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:11 PM

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@stoic island aye, that is indeed out of stock :)

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FdRFf7/corsair-cx-2017-550w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020121-na <- here is the original link

Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

grand spindle Apr 18, 2020, 4:11 PM

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keep in mind the ryzen 3 cpu has been Replaced with the ryzen 5 1600 🙂

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:12 PM

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@grand spindle depends entirely on your budget

woeful elm Apr 18, 2020, 4:12 PM

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leah what r u comfy spending on the budget

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 4:12 PM

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out of stock sadly

grand spindle Apr 18, 2020, 4:12 PM

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anywhere from 250-400$ roughly?

woeful elm Apr 18, 2020, 4:12 PM

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2060 or 2070

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:13 PM

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that is 2060-2060super territory

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 4:13 PM

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2070 too

grand spindle Apr 18, 2020, 4:13 PM

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that with be compatiable with my motherboard and everything

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:13 PM

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2070 is EOL

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@grand spindle yes

grand spindle Apr 18, 2020, 4:13 PM

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im a bit of a noob

woeful elm Apr 18, 2020, 4:13 PM

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plug and play

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 4:13 PM

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That is true, but still more performance

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and support will continue

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:13 PM

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availability wont @stoic island :)

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Wait, I thought it's like buying now?

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:14 PM

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remember assumptions :)

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 4:14 PM

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alr

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but this was my thought.
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-gv-n2070wf2-8gd/p/N82E16814932160

woeful elm Apr 18, 2020, 4:15 PM

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out of stock

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 4:16 PM

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yea

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:16 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HfMwrH/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-8-gb-windforce-2x-video-card-gv-n2070wf2-8gd

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE 2X Video Card

stoic island Apr 18, 2020, 4:16 PM

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thats why "was"

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:16 PM

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(grumble grumble, buyer reviews.... grumble grumble)

woeful elm Apr 18, 2020, 4:17 PM

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gpu prices are kinda wierd, but there are more options than ever to really fit as much performance into a budget

grand spindle Apr 18, 2020, 4:17 PM

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you guys are awesome lol

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:17 PM

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before you celebrate too much @grand spindle

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give me a sec here

grand spindle Apr 18, 2020, 4:17 PM

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yes sir

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:18 PM

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yeah, that psu is a problem

woeful elm Apr 18, 2020, 4:19 PM

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ive got an i7 3770k and a mobo to match, im not up to speed on cpu stuff wut should i get? budget is probably 300 for the combo

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:20 PM

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@grand spindle you are going to need a new powersupply

grand spindle Apr 18, 2020, 4:20 PM

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which would you recommend

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:21 PM

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the cheapest decent one we can link you is the CX at around 84 usd

woeful elm Apr 18, 2020, 4:21 PM

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for what wattage?

grand spindle Apr 18, 2020, 4:21 PM

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would you recommend power supply before gpu?

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:21 PM

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@woeful elm thats the cheapest decent one that is available (650w, 550 being out of stock currently)

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@grand spindle let me put it like this, i would not dare plug in the new gpu in that old powersupply of yours

grand spindle Apr 18, 2020, 4:22 PM

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well i wouldnt do a thing without consulting a doctor

woeful elm Apr 18, 2020, 4:23 PM

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650 for 84 isnt bad at all, leaves room for a beefier build down the line. would still wait for the v to pass for some components

grand spindle Apr 18, 2020, 4:23 PM

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or a professional

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:23 PM

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@grand spindle put in simpler terms, psu first

grand spindle Apr 18, 2020, 4:23 PM

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done and done

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thank you very much

foggy hazel Apr 18, 2020, 4:23 PM

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you are very welcome

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just send me the link as a DM @grand spindle

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i will post it on behalf of you

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on behalf of @grand spindle https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/cx-series-config/p/CP-9020122-NA

CX Series™ CX650 — 650 Watt 80 PLUS® Bronze Certified ATX PSU

CX Series™ power supply units provide 80 PLUS Bronze efficiency at a competitive price point featuring black cable sleeving and connectors and a thermally controlled 120mm fan.

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that canada site pick is correct or a mistake @grand spindle ?

grand spindle Apr 18, 2020, 4:26 PM

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thats what im looking at right now

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Canada computers is the biggest store around me