#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 490

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 7:28 PM

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it has

deep skiff Mar 23, 2020, 7:29 PM

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yeah the 1600 af is a 2600 with slightly lower boost clocks, but for $85 it’s a steal

sharp perch Mar 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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What should i get for a good pc that can run 200 FPS on games and is really good for video editing and music production

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 7:32 PM

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have you not asked that question before @sharp perch ?

sharp perch Mar 23, 2020, 7:32 PM

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No

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I asked something else

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And how are you naed:)

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 7:33 PM

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good

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hopefully you are too

sharp perch Mar 23, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Yeah so how is it with the corona virus in your country

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 7:33 PM

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re:video editing and music production: that depends entirely on what you actually mean by that.

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its here and if you dont act like a raving lunatic, it is so far fairly trivial to deal with

sharp perch Mar 23, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Maybe the question is if I already have the pc but I want to get my headset and speakers maybe for it

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 7:37 PM

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and those choices still depend entirely on what you actually mean by what you said earlier.

wind leaf Mar 23, 2020, 7:37 PM

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@wary geode is everything going fine

wary geode Mar 23, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Yeah just helping my dad

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U need a monitor?

wind leaf Mar 23, 2020, 7:38 PM

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you know what? sure let’s put a monitor on there.. 1080p 144hz 1ms gaming monitor

wary geode Mar 23, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Ok

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qxndvW

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@wind leaf

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I think this is good

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But the 144 ha is kinda expensive

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My recommendation for if you want that would be to buy used mouse and keyboard

wind leaf Mar 23, 2020, 7:48 PM

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alr

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let me check it out

wary geode Mar 23, 2020, 7:48 PM

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If u need help with the kbandm I can help

wind leaf Mar 23, 2020, 7:49 PM

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@foggy hazel what do you think

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1660 vs 1660 ti

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 7:52 PM

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dont you mean 1660 super vs 1660 TI @wind leaf ?

wary geode Mar 23, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Not much of a difference

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But he prob would know more 😂

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 7:54 PM

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@wary geode question: why would you choose something like the BQ psu?

wary geode Mar 23, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Idk I got my psu Corsair 550 80+ bronze fully module for like 50 so I chose something near its price

stoic island Mar 23, 2020, 7:55 PM

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cx is at the same price

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I believe at least

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 7:56 PM

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so, no eye towards the actual quality? just cost? @wary geode

wary geode Mar 23, 2020, 7:56 PM

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I could it’s not hard just busy rn and clicked the cheapest one for now until I get onto my computer

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 7:57 PM

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there was no mention of that when you posted the build list

wary geode Mar 23, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Yeahhhhh

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My bad

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 7:57 PM

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so, am i to understand it correctly, that IF i hadnt asked you would not have mentioned it? because that is not cool.

wary geode Mar 23, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I’ll get to more deal hunting later

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I was going to improve the list in a hour or so

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So I didn’t think it was to mention for now

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 7:58 PM

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in the future, please just say so at the start :)

wary geode Mar 23, 2020, 7:58 PM

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It’s my first time doing a build list I didn’t know sry

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 7:58 PM

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there is no shame in not having the time

wary geode Mar 23, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Yeahhh I will no prob thanks for the heads up

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 7:58 PM

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we are all volunteers here.

wary geode Mar 23, 2020, 7:58 PM

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@wind leaf please read ahead

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 7:58 PM

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you are very welcome :)

wary geode Mar 23, 2020, 7:58 PM

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I was dumb and didn’t mention this

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I’ll be more careful next time

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 8:03 PM

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@wind leaf if i remember right, your budget is very tight?

dusty peak Mar 23, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Should i install my 2x8 sticks of RAM in my 1/3 dimm slot or 2/4 slot?

upper condor Mar 23, 2020, 8:17 PM

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@dusty peak depends on mobo

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Usually 2/4 I believe

dusty peak Mar 23, 2020, 8:18 PM

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i have an asus tuf x470 gaming plus

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i only ask because ive seen setups with ram in the 1/3 slots

upper condor Mar 23, 2020, 8:19 PM

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One second

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 8:20 PM

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@dusty peak if counting from the cpu, 1 and 3 is correct for that mainboard

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nope

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sorry, my mistake

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2 and 4

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i read the manual wrong.

strange garden Mar 23, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Anyone have any idea why my CPU usage keeps spiking to nearly 100% it happens when I switch apps or do certain things while playing games.

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 8:21 PM

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http://puu.sh/Fo3o6/69380ade2e.png @dusty peak

strange garden Mar 23, 2020, 8:22 PM

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I7-8700 while playing path of exile

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 8:22 PM

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do you have a ssd @strange garden ?

strange garden Mar 23, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Ya my OS is on a 256gb m.2 but my games are on a 2tb hdd

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 8:23 PM

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PoE loves being on a ssd

strange garden Mar 23, 2020, 8:24 PM

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I mean the game is seemingly running perfect. I wouldn’t even know it was spiking if I couldn’t hear my cooler take off like a jet engine every now and then

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 8:24 PM

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stock cooler?

strange garden Mar 23, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Ya and I know I’ve been meaning to upgrade

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 8:24 PM

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that is all you can do

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PoE just puts enough pressure on your system thatyour cpu is getting hot as heck

strange garden Mar 23, 2020, 8:25 PM

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But it’s not just POE it will do it when switching between chrome and other apps

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 8:25 PM

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yes, because the stock cooler is "that" bad

strange garden Mar 23, 2020, 8:28 PM

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I mean my thought process is that I shouldn’t be seeing that much usage. There’s no way POE and an app or 2 open is maxing out all 12 cores on my i7-8700 right? I understand it’s getting loud because it’s getting hot. But it happens relatively randomly. Like not every time I switch apps or load a new area but every now and then

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 8:28 PM

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the reason that the cpu cooler ramps up is because there is a load

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and if the stock cooler is small (read: bad) enough

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even a seemingly small thing can cause it to ramp up

wind leaf Mar 23, 2020, 8:30 PM

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@foggy hazel yes it is

strange garden Mar 23, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Yes I understand the fan and temps are relative to load. My concern is I’m not putting it under load the cpu is spiking from seemingly nothing. My usage shouldn’t jump from 40-50 to literally all cores maxed or close to just when I switch from POE to chrome or afterburner or whatever it is. That just seems wrong

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And it wasn’t really doing this until I moved everything over to a new board and wiped everything

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 8:34 PM

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some setting could have been twisted around somewhere @strange garden

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and you have to remember, new board = new fan curves for the cpu cooler

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@wind leaf https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HCzFHB

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strange garden Mar 23, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Ya and I adjusted the curves and everything in the bios and they seem to working appropriately, and again it’s not the noise or fan speeds that I’m concerned with. I’m curious as to why the usage is spiking so hard when I’m seemingly doing nothing that should be putting that much strain on the CPU

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 8:44 PM

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you would have to look at the actual difference between the CPU profile between your two boards

strange garden Mar 23, 2020, 8:44 PM

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I’ve monitored usage across all cores and it’s legitimately doubling usage or more for like half a second when I switch apps or load a new area sometimes

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What do you mean by that?

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 8:45 PM

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a given bios will be tuned to behave in a specific way

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this is where the bonkers TDP numbers on the intel platform comes from

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the mainboard manufacturers are free to tune things as they see fit

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but all i can offer is these two options:

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do a full reinstall of your OS and pay special attention to your mainboard drivers

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second: Check the bios release page of your mainboard

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and read the actual release notes and ofc, figure out which bios version you actually have.

strange garden Mar 23, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Well it was a cpu and gpu from a prebuilt hp omen that I moved to a Rog Strix z370-e gaming mobo with all my drives. I did a wipe but it still had the hp bloat ware so I deleted most of that. I did update the bios on my mobo to the most recent version.0

foggy hazel Mar 23, 2020, 8:50 PM

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what i said above applies.

celest horizon Mar 23, 2020, 9:14 PM

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That sounds like normal cpu usage.

strange garden Mar 23, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Ok I opened up my computer ( which was just running fine) and moved my fan plugs and changed the slot I had my ram in, and now when I go to turn on my PC I’m getting a yellow led on mobo that indicates a ram error and it won’t boot. Any one have suggestions?

sacred obsidian Mar 23, 2020, 11:20 PM

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make sure its pressed in all the way

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also what slots did you take them out of and what slots did you put them into

wind leaf Mar 24, 2020, 12:31 AM

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@foggy hazel the RAM and Cpu are out of stock... what can i do to buy the parts today?

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:12 AM

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How does this look? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KKBTtp

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upper condor Mar 24, 2020, 1:12 AM

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@little osprey id change case and psu

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:12 AM

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what are you using it for?

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:13 AM

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i kinda wanna stick with the case, what should i change the PSU to

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what are you using it for?
@teal bison
Gaming and streaming

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:15 AM

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@little osprey ok well im going to assume you want those specific fans and case?

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:15 AM

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i just want the case

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idc about the fans

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:15 AM

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ok, well do you have a need for fast storage? if you are just gaming and streaming, you probably dont

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:15 AM

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id perfer it

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:16 AM

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for what tho? are you copying 20gb files all day?

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:17 AM

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i already have one extra so i have no use in buying a diff one xD just added it to have it

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:17 AM

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so you already have some of the parts?

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:17 AM

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only the ssd

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:18 AM

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ok well i assume that one is for your apps/games and the 4tb is for other stuff like stream recordings and stuff?

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:19 AM

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yeah

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photoshop, premiere ect

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I have like 2tb of files so may as well prepare for more lol

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@upper condorwhat should I change the psu to

upper condor Mar 24, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Bitfenix whisper

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:21 AM

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and i assume you want the neo ram specifically?

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Its what I've seen people use and say good things about but if theres another you recomend it's fine aslong as it has rgb lol

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:22 AM

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well ya thats what i figured you wanted it for the rgb

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:22 AM

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And for the aura sync

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I would have gotten the royal 4000mhzs but those are hella expensive

upper condor Mar 24, 2020, 1:23 AM

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And dont improve that much

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Wat

upper condor Mar 24, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Diminishing returns

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The timings are probably bad

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Oh

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You cant even buy that psu anywhere that I can find

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It's just out of stock

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:27 AM

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and do you want that gpu for the rgb?

upper condor Mar 24, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Check newegg actual site @little osprey

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:27 AM

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It's just really nice looking and yeah lol

upper condor Mar 24, 2020, 1:27 AM

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If not phanteks amp

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Yeah its our

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Out

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:29 AM

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yeah i would get the phanteks amp

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Ye

unique rapids Mar 24, 2020, 1:30 AM

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hello guys. I have a ryzen 5 3400G and it's idling at 1.4v. Any solution in the BIOS? I am currently using a negative offset to lessen the voltage spike when in full load.

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:31 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XtNxWb

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teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:31 AM

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other than that looks fairly solid, although you could change the hdd to two of these
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mwrYcf/seagate-barracuda-computer-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm008
and save like $70 if you wanted

Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:31 AM

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I went for the 4Tb because I need it lol, I dont really have much storage left with my current 2tb

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:32 AM

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thats why i said get 2 of them

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Ohg

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Oh

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:33 AM

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they are really good price/gb not including nas drives or slower drives

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Would you be able to make it so they fill up together like a raid drive or whatever

static sierra Mar 24, 2020, 1:33 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
need some opinions

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little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:34 AM

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That is nothing f

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:34 AM

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@static sierra change it all its terrible

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jk lol

static sierra Mar 24, 2020, 1:34 AM

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lol i know

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:34 AM

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@static sierra you didnt share it right

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:34 AM

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i think he was meming

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:34 AM

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Oh lol

static sierra Mar 24, 2020, 1:34 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nYRFHB

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lol im a goof - sorry

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:35 AM

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what are you using it for @static sierra

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 1:35 AM

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You have no storage.

static sierra Mar 24, 2020, 1:35 AM

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work, gaming, server

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taking my nvme from my laptop into it

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:35 AM

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do you need anything on that motherboard that warrants the $300?

static sierra Mar 24, 2020, 1:36 AM

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the wifi and 6 hdd I have to put in it

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 1:57 AM

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does this one fit your needs? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7mGnTW/asrock-x570-phantom-gaming-4-wifi-ax-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-phantom-gaming-4-wifi-ax

ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING 4 WIFI ax ATX AM4 Motherboard

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wifi 6 and 8 sata connectors

static sierra Mar 24, 2020, 1:58 AM

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only thing I don't like is no heat spreaders for the nvme

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:58 AM

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I was just looking for that one dragocor 😂

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 2:00 AM

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i just watch this video when i need to remember. one of the top comments has time stamps for notable boards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti38JS8RuPU

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Actually Hardcore Overclocking

Buildzoid's massive AM4 motherboard roundup 2019 // ALL X570 X470 a...

My Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/buildzoid
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#AMD #motherboard #Ryzen

▶ Play video

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although he mostly just goes over vrm because he is a... well... actually hardcore overclocker

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but does mention some other features like "cheapest way to get wifi 6"

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@static sierra what nvme are you using?

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also its $150 cheaper so keep that in mind. if you want to spend 150 for some heat spreaders go for it i guess, although im sure there are cheaper ways to get that too

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Yo drago? What are some good fans that have rgb? I need 6 fans :p

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 2:06 AM

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dont know much about fans although the ones you have in your list i think are good

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Ok ty

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Ik u didn't ask me but these would be my recommendation

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https://www.amazon.com/upHere-Intelligent-Addressable-Motherboard-Adjustable/dp/B07HK7YRCD/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=uphere+rgb+fans&qid=1585015604&sr=8-5

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I didnt see what u have yet tho

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 2:07 AM

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oh yeah ive heard uphere are a decent budget brand

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Ya they are. I figured nobody likes paying 100 bucks for fans

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Do they work with gigabytes fusion 2 light sync

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Yep

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They do

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Yep lol

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Fusion sync is gigabyte right

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:09 AM

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I believe so

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Do you think they will work with this mobo
Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LJxbt6/gigabyte-x570-gaming-x-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-gaming-x

Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 2:16 AM

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yeah if they are compatible with rgb fusion, although the comments say that board is a brownish color so be mindful of that if you are going for aesthetics

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Yes they're compatible and they come with a nice controller to keep all the wires in check

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 2:25 AM

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@teal bison should I go with an arours elite

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nHxbt6/gigabyte-x570-aorus-elite-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-aorus-elite

Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard

teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 2:30 AM

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id have to look into the differences between it and the tuf, gimme a sec

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 2:30 AM

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I'd prefer to go with the gigabyte because od the gpu

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jHt9yk

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teal bison Mar 24, 2020, 2:31 AM

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umm ok

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i think its a good board just maybe not the best value, but id have to look into it

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 2:31 AM

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I just am weird in the way that I want the same brand stuff XD

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Anyone have thoughts on this build? I've pretty much got it all in my cart at newegg, a few items are on sale and fit what I wanted anyway. The HD's I already have on hand. Case TBD since I'm on a budget and I have some optical drives I'm going to toss in later when I rip them out of my old HAF 932.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pn7Mmg

grave badge Mar 24, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Need help I'm trying to figure out a good mb for a 5th gen ryzen CPU or 7th gen on a budget anyone got any good ideas I'm open to just about anything

tranquil dust Mar 24, 2020, 12:43 PM

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ryzen 5 1600 af

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:02 PM

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Thats not what he asked

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@grave badge there aren't 5th and 7th gen ryzen cpus yet but ill assume your referring to third gen R5 and R7 models. If it is the 3000 series then I would recommend the asus tuf pro gaming matx board

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I'll throw a link in for that

wary pond Mar 24, 2020, 1:03 PM

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hey guys

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i need help with compatibility

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:04 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming/p/N82E16813119224?&quicklink=true

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Whats your question @wary pond

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I can try to help the best I can

tranquil dust Mar 24, 2020, 1:08 PM

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oh he said motherboard LMAO

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Yep lol

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In response to a budget ryzen cpu tho your answer was correct ROFLEgg

tranquil dust Mar 24, 2020, 1:10 PM

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laff

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Not sure where we went tho lol 🤔

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 1:24 PM

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@buoyant flame Did you take a look at my build by chance?

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:24 PM

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I did not

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I did now tho and I have 2 suggestions

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Cool

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Whatcha got?

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:26 PM

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I would switch the mobo and ram to another option. I'll do it for you and show you. Gimme one sec

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Hows this look

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RtWmQq

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You can save a little money too if you buy the matx version of that board

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Is there a reason you need a full size atx board

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Ignore that warning btw. That board does ship ryzen 3000 ready

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 1:29 PM

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The ram is on sale atm, let me see what you have.

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:30 PM

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The ram I chose was faster and the same price

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I believe

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 1:30 PM

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The ram I have is actually 77 on newegg atm

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:30 PM

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Ok but for 5 dollars more you'll get a decently better kit

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Really G Skill is the bees knees now?

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:31 PM

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They're definitely respected

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Oh I see, it's 3600 vs 3200. Word. I'll see if it's available

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Alright

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Quick question. Is your audio gear USB or mini jack?

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 1:32 PM

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I got the ATX board because I have no fear of a big PC and eventually adding additional stuff onto it.

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USB for headphones, jack for speakers.

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Plus the tomahawk was in every recommended video I've seen. So I'll take that recommendation and run with it.

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:34 PM

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Ok so the one I selected (https://www.amazon.com/TUF-B450-Pro-Gaming-Motherboard-Lighting/dp/B07R4N68SR/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=asus+tuf+pro&qid=1585056459&sr=8-3) has a better sound chip

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📎 SmartSelect_20200317-223139_Discord.jpg

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This is the current vibe with the tomahawk lol

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I've had to paste that message a couple of times 😂

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 1:36 PM

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rip.

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Damn you Bitwit, Lynus, and Jay.

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Rando other Youtubers.

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yeah the lack of wifi was kinda killin me, but I think I had to do a wifi card on my last build anyways,

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Lol nothing against them tho 🤣

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If you want wifi then I'm pretty sure I know a good one. Give me a sec

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This would be the board then https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B450-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10#kf

GIGABYTE

B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) | Motherboard - GIGABYTE U.S.A.

AMD B450 AORUS Motherboard with Hybrid Digital PWM, Intel® Dual Band 802.11ac WIFI, Dual M.2 with Dual Thermal Guards, Audio ALC1220-VB, Intel® GbE LAN with...

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Its a little more expensive but just think of that as your wifi chip 😉

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 1:43 PM

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oh I was just looking at that

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lol

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https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450-aorus-pro-wifi/p/N82E16813145082

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Nice

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 1:43 PM

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So that's good, we both arrived at the same board.

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Yep. I think that's the one for you

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I would keep the gskill kit still tho

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 1:45 PM

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oh, but it only supports 3200 ram

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I think that's why I didn't take it before.

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up to 3200*

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:46 PM

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The board?

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 1:46 PM

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yea

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Let me check

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Oh your right, thats unfortunate lol

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 1:49 PM

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yea, rip.

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What is the sound chip I should be looking for on boards?

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Well 3200 isn't bad tho

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Lemme check again one second

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Realtek® ALC S1200A

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Thats the one the asus board has

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 1:56 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-performance-gaming-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac/p/N82E16813144188

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Hits 3466 at least. Now I have to decide if 40 dollars is worth wifi and better sound.

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 1:58 PM

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if you dont need wifi i'd go with the b450 tuf pro https://www.amazon.com/TUF-B450-Pro-Gaming-Motherboard-Lighting/dp/B07R4N68SR

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:59 PM

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That was my first suggestion nachos but he did need it

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 1:59 PM

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I NEEEEED IT.

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I live in an apt, and the modem is in the hallway. So.

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No hardwire for me.

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Although it might be better to get that board still and just buy a good wifi card

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 1:59 PM

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ree idk then

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:00 PM

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That way you can keep the ram

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:00 PM

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a good wifi card will probably be the difference in the pro carbon and the tuf pro

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Pretty much

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Do you have a suggestion nachos because Ik nothing about wifi cards

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:02 PM

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i just use ethernet i have no clue

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Same lol

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:02 PM

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also you can run 3600mhz on the pro carbon

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Still expensive tho

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:03 PM

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yea

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Are you sure actually

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:03 PM

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just run ethernet through the entire apartment lol

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:03 PM

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I dont see that

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:04 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/caywnj/overclocking_ram_3200_3600_on_an_msi_b450_gaming/

r/Amd - Overclocking RAM 3200 ---> 3600 on an MSI B450 Gaming Pro C...

10 votes and 21 comments so far on Reddit

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:04 PM

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It says 3466 for me

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:04 PM

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just dont get super bad ram

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and it should be fine

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Oh ya lol I thought you meant out of box speeds

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:05 PM

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or just save like $15 and get 3200 and avoid all of this

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Save 5*

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Lol

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:05 PM

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i mean they make some pretty cheap kits

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Ya he probably could get a cheaper 3200mhz kit

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:06 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7KnX3t

System Builder

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Still don't have wifi tho

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:07 PM

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I mean I started with 3200. 😛 @buoyant flame got us down this 3600 road.

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:07 PM

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yeah i just changed the ram

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Ya lol that was before I knew u needed wifi

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:07 PM

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yo, I have never heard of GeiL

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:08 PM

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also why not a 1600 af + 2060/5700?

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:08 PM

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I'm not about to product test that for them. lmao

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:08 PM

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If your gonna get the 3200mhz ram then you might as well get the aorus pro wifi then

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:09 PM

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cause the 1600 af is half the cost for basically a 2600

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:09 PM

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I want to stream later this year when I get back home to my normal studio, so I figured the additional boost in core speed would help with that once I get a bunch of crap running

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and the 3600 is on sale. So that also twisted my arm a bit.

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:10 PM

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yeah i get you, but a stronger card would help with nvenc for streaming too

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Yea, I was waffling between the 1600af and a better card, but the price difference didn't jump me up high enough for the value I was getting out of the 1660 Super imo

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Another problem is availability, everything I've looked up is a month out on amazon, so forget any of those prices. Newegg has most of my list in stock. It appears they have only the 1600, for 100 bucks. Local stores have a solid 30% mark up on everything.

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:22 PM

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its in stock at amazon rn https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07XTQZJ28

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:22 PM

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What card to you propose he upgrades to that the extra 100 bucks will give him?

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:25 PM

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90 bucks, but whatever, we've already creeped up 40 or so dollars as is. lmao. 😂 Let's check the options.

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:25 PM

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something like thishttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/M4G2BZ

System Builder

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it's like $10 more than 3600+ pro carbonhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/2wjvNq

System Builder

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Ya that first one doesn't look bad

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:29 PM

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yea 10 dollars on the card, but we're forgetting the changes on the board. 😛

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either way, it's a 30%~ performance boost in GPU, or CPU, depending on where you swing the 100~ bucks.

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:30 PM

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yea

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Well you'll see a greater overall bost with the better gpu then the better cpu imo

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:30 PM

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I figured the 3600 would last me longer than the GPU

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Theres always used gpus too tho

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:31 PM

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with ryzen you could always upgrade later (for next gen or something)

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but yeah Plus_One for buying used gpus

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:31 PM

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man, used stuff sketches me out, unless I can test it. Which currently I can't as I only have an overheating laptop.

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Ya. You could put a 4000 series ryzen 5 when it comes out if you want

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As long as you play it safe there shouldn't be much of a problem with buying used. Especially from ebay since they have the whole money back guarantee thing

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:32 PM

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so really with that, it would be better to take the 3600, and upgrade to a higher card used, later.

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is what I'm taking away with that logic.

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:33 PM

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It can go either way

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But I would personally buy the 1600 af

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With a better gpu now

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:34 PM

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well, selling off my old GPU would be way easier than the CPU, as every build can use a new GPU, but not every build is AMD

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:34 PM

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you can do it both ways, but for right now the 1600 af+ 2060S would perform better

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Theres always someone that will buy it tho 😉

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:35 PM

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demonmit will probably buy it lol

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Plus considering the price difference between the 1600 af (85) and the 1660 super (240) you would save a good bit of money buy upgrading the cpu later rather than the gpu

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Lol he would nachos

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:36 PM

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You don't think the 1600af would have a problem handling OBS, a game, and whatever other junk I have running in the background?

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Depends on the stream quality

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I think 720p at 60fps would be fine

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:38 PM

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the 1600 af is just a 2600 downclocked 200ish mhz

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Yep

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Man, I think I might still go with the 3600 and 1660 for a good balance. I feel like the 1600af / 2060S would definitely get my games looking crispy, but once I pull out the additional tasks, not so much. Plus swapping out a video card is way easier than a CPU, lol

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But I do appreciate the suggestions, and I did get a mobo upgrade out of this, ( I think, lol ) and some ram.

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I've got some time to think about it before I blow all my money today or tomorrow.

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oh look at me, blue text now!

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:44 PM

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cant force you to change it, i can only help suggest. it'll be a great build either way

coarse coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:44 PM

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SipCiv

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:44 PM

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oh no theo's here

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Yep just our suggestion. You 100% did get a better mobo outta it tho 😂

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Keep in mind that the ssd you have in your list does not currently have a price available so you need to add that into your total cost @stark coral

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:56 PM

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I already own it. 🙂

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 2:56 PM

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click the "gear" icon and mark it as purchased then :)

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 2:57 PM

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flip table It's already $0!

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lol j/k

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 2:57 PM

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its so you avoid that question in the future :)

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Hi naed 👋

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 2:59 PM

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hello @buoyant flame

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Did you read the conversation?

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 2:59 PM

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nah

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Ok lol

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 2:59 PM

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yeah or mark the price to $0 to show its already bought/owned

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Without having to read everything. Would you go 1600 af with a 2060 super or a 3600 with a 1660 super for streaming

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16gb of 3200mhz with both

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 3:00 PM

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:/ my keyboard is the second most expensive part of my pc after my monitor

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Wow what keyboard u got

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Dell Keyboard. 😂

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:01 PM

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how about a 2600 with a 2060?

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 3:01 PM

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@buoyant flame a too expensive custom one

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 3:01 PM

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@foggy hazel Too far out of the budget.

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 3:01 PM

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2600 prices are wonk rn

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Ya the 1600 af was chosen because its only 85 bucks

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:02 PM

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let me just have a look at one of the lists

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who posted the most recent list?

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 3:02 PM

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The last 2 that nachos sent are the best ones

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 3:02 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M4G2BZ https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2wjvNq

System Builder

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Yep there u go

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:02 PM

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thank you

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 3:03 PM

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also he needs wifi so thats why the mobo choices

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Ya ^

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:03 PM

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does he need the sound chip on that board?

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 3:04 PM

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He has usb headset and mini jack speakers

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 3:04 PM

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nah I don't care that much about sound,

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but I liked the suggestion

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:04 PM

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2sec then

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 3:05 PM

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@buoyant flame I sent you a pm.

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Didn't get it

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Not sure why

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 3:07 PM

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send me a message, see what happens.

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:12 PM

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@stark coral https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d6VfDx

System Builder

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you gain 1 tb of space for 9ish usd

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you gain 22usd from a mainboard change

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you gain 10 usd from a psu change [edit: gain]

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 3:17 PM

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I think the PSU I had is actually cheaper than that because of the newegg sale and mail in rebate atm.

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But thank you for looking. I was mostly concerned with the mobo/cpu/gpu combos

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:18 PM

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your budget places you strictly in the "this is going to get messy" territory

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 3:18 PM

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evga doesn't make super great budget psu options

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:18 PM

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and as Nachos said

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the PSU is the heart of your machine.

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as for the question of 3600 vs 2600/1600af: i would personally always go 3600

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2 reasons

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1: longer life

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2: it is a 2 minute switch to plug in a new GPU

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 3:23 PM

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@foggy hazel Yea that's what I was thinking, the GPU all around is easier to swap, and resell.

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Plus streaming encoding is more reliant on CPU than GPU, so pushing up to the 3600 will get me further atm.

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I'll look into the corsair PSU.

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:24 PM

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kinda-ish in a way, sometimes.

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(above is about the streaming comment)

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 3:25 PM

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It depends on how you set up OBS, but you should be using your encoding.

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:25 PM

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but it is technically close enough

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 3:25 PM

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*using your CPU for encoding

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:25 PM

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you should be using your GPU

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 3:25 PM

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nvenc

stoic island Mar 24, 2020, 3:25 PM

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What about AMD GPUs

sullen spoke Mar 24, 2020, 3:26 PM

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in obs cpu has best quality but big impact on performance

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that is why using hardware encoder is better, much less load on system

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Which is why you'd want a higher end CPU

stoic island Mar 24, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Ppl keep saying nvenc is great, so what does AMD have to offer?

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:26 PM

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@stoic island a semibroken implementation.

stoic island Mar 24, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Ah.

sullen spoke Mar 24, 2020, 3:26 PM

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even with something like a 3900x you will still feel the game being a bit off, i'd only use cpu encoding with a dual pc setup

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 3:27 PM

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@stoic island their encoder isnt great, for streaming nvidia is a better option

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:27 PM

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@stark coral the 3600 is not "that" much higher up the rankings

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you would very much be leaning on the GPU for the encoding.

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 3:28 PM

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the 3600 is just a newer and slightly better 2600

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 3:30 PM

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It's 30% more than the 1600af though,

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in performance

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 3:31 PM

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for some cpu only workloads maybe

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:32 PM

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and now we get into the "why i think the 1600af is a silly choice" part of the talk

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just about all the people that suggest the 1600af expects that people will OC it

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(but they forget to mention that, heck, they forget to ask if the person they are talking to wants to even OC in the first place)

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which leads to situations like the one we are in "now"

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because the main difference between the parts @stark coral is clock speed

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 3:36 PM

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yeah clock speed, ipc, and optimization are really the only differences

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:37 PM

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and the ipc and opti is negated a fair deal vs the original 1600(non af)

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because it IS a 2600 core in there

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 3:40 PM

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yea

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 3:41 PM

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ok looks like nachos and naed got this. I got some stuff to do but we're on the right path @stark coral.

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:42 PM

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time for the hourly lap around the room @buoyant flame ?

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:P

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 3:45 PM

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:P

stark coral Mar 24, 2020, 3:51 PM

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I need to pass out, I should have gone to bed like 4 hours ago. lmao

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Thanks guys/gals/whoever!

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 3:52 PM

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best of luck @stark coral

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 4:11 PM

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I'm going to be honest... I don't know what that means lol > time for the hourly lap around the room @buoyant flame ?
@foggy hazel

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 4:19 PM

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quarantine = you need exercise

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Oh lol that one went over me 😂

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Getting tired of the quarantine tho that's for sure

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 4:28 PM

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yeah can corona stop now i've ran out of my free games to play on steam lol

lime forge Mar 24, 2020, 4:29 PM

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minecraft

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 4:29 PM

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it hard

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I feel like I haven't even been in the car in like a month

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 4:30 PM

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o

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a friend just started a realm

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I just want to go somewhere😂

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 4:30 PM

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mood

lime forge Mar 24, 2020, 4:30 PM

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vr

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lol jk

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vr is not a replacement

buoyant flame Mar 24, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Lol

lime forge Mar 24, 2020, 4:31 PM

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i think half life alyx's release date was perfect

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everybody is inside because of quarantine anyways

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more time to play vr

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they have 43 concurrent users at peak

deep skiff Mar 24, 2020, 4:31 PM

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43 users wow

lime forge Mar 24, 2020, 4:31 PM

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compared to boneworks, the previous highest concurrent user count, at just 8.5k

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sorry i mean 43 thousand

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little bit of a difference there lmao

sullen spoke Mar 24, 2020, 5:25 PM

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do vr instead of exercise

lime forge Mar 24, 2020, 5:26 PM

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i wish

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beat saber does make me work hard tho

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the expert + levels get you going lmao

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@lime forge did you see the IGN interview with Gabe about Alyx?

lime forge Mar 24, 2020, 5:27 PM

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i did

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(i think)

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 5:28 PM

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gabe and someone else + the interviewer

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its the one where they talk about, amongst other things, brain interface etc

lime forge Mar 24, 2020, 5:30 PM

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i didnt see that one

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 5:30 PM

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let me find it again

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0zXkwLs_lo

YouTube

IGN

Gabe Newell Talks Half-Life: Alyx & Valve's Past and (Unexpected) F...

In a rare half-hour conversation, Valve co-founder Gabe Newell talks about the studio's past with Half-Life, the surprising answer to what his favorite Half-Life game is, mistakes that Valve has made, what keeps a man worth billions of dollars coming to work every day, how he ...

▶ Play video

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there you go Zack :)

lime forge Mar 24, 2020, 5:31 PM

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ill keep that in my tabs, gotta watch it later

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im doing my e learning lol

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 5:31 PM

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its a fairly "human" watch, so definitely worth the time.

lime forge Mar 24, 2020, 5:31 PM

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ill definetly give it a watch when im done with school work

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 5:31 PM

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enjoy learning :)

lime forge Mar 24, 2020, 5:31 PM

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i want half life alyx, but im not paying $60 for it lol.

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thanks

round river Mar 24, 2020, 6:56 PM

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the system I plan on building is around 400W. Should I get a 450W psu?

lime forge Mar 24, 2020, 6:56 PM

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specs?

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:26 PM

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3700X + 5700XT

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16gb DDR4 3600mhz

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:27 PM

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a good 450w psu would be just fine for that @round river

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AMP comes to mind

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:34 PM

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aight thx

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:34 PM

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but please keep in mind, you do need a good psu

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a random bad psu is not going to work for it @round river

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:35 PM

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so something from EVGA, or Corsair

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:35 PM

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there are good units from both

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I know of seasonic but they are a bit pricey

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:35 PM

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but i would not recommend most of their units

cursive wharf Mar 24, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Don't recall any good 450w EVGA units, same with Seasonic

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AMP is probably limited on the PCIe cable count

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:36 PM

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and i just checked, the AMP starts at 550, that was my mistake.

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:37 PM

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you talking about the numebr of amps?

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:37 PM

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nope, a model

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:37 PM

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I'm not good withPSUs

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Phantek AMP

cursive wharf Mar 24, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Phanteks AMP

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:37 PM

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oh ok

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:37 PM

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http://www.phanteks.com/Amp-Series.html <- that thing

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:38 PM

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aight

cursive wharf Mar 24, 2020, 7:39 PM

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I'd suggest 550w anyways due to upgradeability

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:39 PM

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@round river just for having a better overview of what you are dealing with, could you link us your build?

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and if you dont know about it, i would like to introduce you to https://pcpartpicker.com/

Pick parts. Build your PC. Compare and share.

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:40 PM

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I know what pc part picker is xD

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:40 PM

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some dont :)

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:40 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FzZqWb

System Builder

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:41 PM

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hm, we can save you some money if you are interested?

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:41 PM

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that's just the system that I'll spend the most on

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:41 PM

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the cryorig, you already own it or?

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:41 PM

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unless I get rich then I'll get 2080 ti and other stuff

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I don't own any of that xD

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:42 PM

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okay

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2sec

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:42 PM

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ill share my current sytem

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:42 PM

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1200 is max budget?

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what case are you aiming for?

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:43 PM

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cougar qbx

cursive wharf Mar 24, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Could be possible to use stock and remove the shroud sometimes

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:43 PM

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I barely even have the money for the system I shared lol I was mainly "playing" around

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:44 PM

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that is one wonky case choice

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is there any specific reason for that one?

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and by wonky, i am talking about the limits it puts on the build

sharp perch Mar 24, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Naed how is it going working again I see

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:45 PM

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@sharp perch you mean talking here? i never stopped doing that.

sharp perch Mar 24, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Yeah

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Well you have sleep right

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So you do stop don’t you

still roostBOT Mar 24, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Ironix#5037 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

sharp perch Mar 24, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Lol

stoic island Mar 24, 2020, 7:46 PM

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bad words are bad

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:46 PM

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@sharp perch in that regard i do.

sharp perch Mar 24, 2020, 7:46 PM

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We’re should I ask which mixer I should get

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:46 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FhpVb8 replace 3200g with 2200g (partpicker doesn't have it in their list) and the psu is crappy

System Builder

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:47 PM

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@sharp perch #peripherals-and-displays

sharp perch Mar 24, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Thx

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Whats the difference between the https://www.amazon.com/upHere-Intelligent-Addressable-Motherboard-Adjustable/dp/B07HK7YRCD/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=upHere+T7SYC7-6&qid=1585079182&s=electronics&sr=1-4 and the https://www.amazon.com/upHere-Intelligent-Addressable-Motherboard-Adjustable/dp/B07HKB1NT3/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=upHere+T7SYC7-6&qid=1585079182&s=electronics&sr=1-3

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:47 PM

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@sharp perch you might want to ask @sacred obsidian about it, just tag him in that other channel.

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 7:47 PM

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do you mean 2400g?

stoic island Mar 24, 2020, 7:47 PM

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One is PWM one isn't?

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:48 PM

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nope

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ryzen 3 2200g

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Wha tabout it?

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:48 PM

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ima upgrade to ryzen 1600 af

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 7:48 PM

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I dont understand getting a 2200g over a 3200g with the prices

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:48 PM

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i bought it before it came out

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 7:48 PM

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^

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 7:48 PM

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oh nevermind lol

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:48 PM

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@narrow rose its an old build.

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:)

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 7:49 PM

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thats what I get for jumping in

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 7:49 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L9m7yk @round river Is this what u meant?

System Builder

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:49 PM

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@round river do you actually need the slim ODD that the cougar case has?

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:49 PM

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optical drive? No

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 7:50 PM

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I like the little case

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:50 PM

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could you elaborate on what it is you want to "get/obtain" from your choice of case?

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:50 PM

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@little osprey lol. I searched for 2200g but it only showed 3200g

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 7:50 PM

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WEll i did it XD

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I know what parts I want. I just want to know which psu to get

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:51 PM

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you are just paying extra for nothing, hence why i ask.

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not trying to force your hand.

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 7:52 PM

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500w minimum

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 7:52 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RZTjb8 @round river

System Builder

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:52 PM

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You saying I can get it w/o optical drive?

stoic island Mar 24, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Oh yea Naed, I was wondering, how do you feel bout that msi board for an itx board with wifi?

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:53 PM

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shiiiiit that's a bit expensive

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for me anyways

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 7:53 PM

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thats a good psu btw

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 7:53 PM

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that psu seems expensive though for what we got here

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:53 PM

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i am saying that, that case (the cougar), has so many limits on it, that you end up having to pay for having that case.

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and the one thing it brings to the table, the slim ODD, you dont plan on using

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 7:55 PM

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I have to agree I like having a bigger case although I also think that is a neat looking little case

round river Mar 24, 2020, 7:56 PM

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it is

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:58 PM

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the QBX is listed as being 63usd on amazon

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 7:59 PM

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kind of depends if thermals, performance, and ease of install and repairs matters more than having a cool looking tiny case

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 7:59 PM

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it comes with 1 90mm fan pre installed

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 8:00 PM

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I wish it had a handle though. I feel like tiny cases are meant to be portable and it should have a handle on top

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:01 PM

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compare that to the node304 @round river

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which doesnt have the limits the QBX has

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and it actually comes with all the fans you needs preinstalled.

round river Mar 24, 2020, 8:03 PM

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it looks like a metal box tho lol

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:03 PM

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yes, that has actual ventilation

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 8:03 PM

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the silvertstone one looked like it has much better airflow than that though

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:03 PM

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the sg13 is a nice case

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 8:03 PM

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yeah I like that one

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oh the node looks much better in white though

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doesnt help airflow but sure looks better

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:05 PM

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the node has plenty of airflow

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remember, 2 of the drive cages wont be there

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 8:06 PM

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yeah and those vents for the front are fairly big

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:06 PM

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and if you only move the one that you have to, for the gpu to fit, it wont obstruct enough to matter

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 8:07 PM

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also its just a 2200g and 570

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:07 PM

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@narrow rose you are looking at the wrong build :)

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 8:07 PM

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man I might be again... 😳

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stuck on the silverstone sg13 build

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:09 PM

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@round river https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b9gCgJ

System Builder

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the ssd and ram on that will both save you money

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a fair chunk of it

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the ram is faster

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and the ssd is equal

stoic island Mar 24, 2020, 8:10 PM

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the mobo choice is interesting

round river Mar 24, 2020, 8:10 PM

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nice

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:11 PM

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@stoic island it is his own original choice

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the advantage of something like the node304 @round river is that you are fairly free in cooler choice

round river Mar 24, 2020, 8:11 PM

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true

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:11 PM

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you can stick something as bonkers as a u14 noctua in there.

stoic island Mar 24, 2020, 8:11 PM

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I was wondering how you felt about this one
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gBWfrH/msi-b450i-gaming-plus-ac-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-b450i-gaming-plus-ac

MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard

round river Mar 24, 2020, 8:12 PM

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tho I'm tryna upgrade to a cool looking case

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ik there are other priorities

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:12 PM

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cool and cheap dont go hand in hand, just remember that

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 8:13 PM

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did you look at it in white it does look much better white than black

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:13 PM

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@stoic island its a decent board, aside from the soundchip

round river Mar 24, 2020, 8:14 PM

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it does looknice

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:14 PM

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but as always, that is up for debate (as in, how important it is for that specific build)

round river Mar 24, 2020, 8:14 PM

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a big downside to this is that my pc is on the left side of my desk

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:14 PM

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try and see if you can find some actual non-press photos, of the white

stoic island Mar 24, 2020, 8:14 PM

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I was considering it for the itx list I was making

round river Mar 24, 2020, 8:14 PM

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so tempered glass panels would be facing the wall lmao

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 8:16 PM

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📎 post-2255-0-06818700-1395685408.png

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its so little

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:19 PM

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@stoic island its a valid enough board for that

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https://www.overclock.net/photopost/data/1018975/0/01/01d3befb_20130904_120352.jpeg

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someone has been smart with the front panel on that one

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 8:24 PM

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I wonder if they painted it or stole the front panel from a black one

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:26 PM

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the finish makes me vote for a swap @narrow rose

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 8:26 PM

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agreed

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:27 PM

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because it looks suspiciously "normal"

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 8:27 PM

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it does logo and everything

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:27 PM

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aye

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 8:27 PM

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probably works at a microcenter

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:28 PM

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or has one for a HTPC

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 8:29 PM

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I need a case with one of those lcd side panels

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they just look so cool

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if anyone ever hears of a way to turn my current side panel into an lcd screen let me know

foggy hazel Mar 24, 2020, 8:31 PM

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just wire it up

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 8:32 PM

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yeah I heard you can diy it

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just need to grab a cheap 19" monitor

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but I would rather buy an already mostly assembled one

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I found one but its $600 😦

wary tundra Mar 24, 2020, 9:05 PM

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I have a g3, dont hurt me

analog hearth Mar 24, 2020, 9:07 PM

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ouch

sudden turret Mar 24, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I have a g1, you'll be fine

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 10:46 PM

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had the pcpartpicker people help me out with this

cursive wharf Mar 24, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I have great thoughts about it

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little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 10:47 PM

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no?

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try again

cursive wharf Mar 24, 2020, 10:47 PM

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may take a min I guess, just did again

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 10:48 PM

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fyi, ssd isnt for tower, its a replacement for the laptop that the desktops drives are coming from

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4QgqWb

System Builder

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there

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shouldnt be private anymore

cursive wharf Mar 24, 2020, 10:54 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9c7yQq
-CPU Cooler: Kinda a waste of money due to not being any beter then stock
-mobo: I doubt many features are going to be used from that x570
-RAM: 3600 CL16 is better then 3200 CL16
-GPU: 2060S over 2060
-case: lacks great airflow
-PSU: Decided to get a better PSU

System Builder

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If not streaming then I'd suggest 5700XT

analog hearth Mar 24, 2020, 10:55 PM

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beter

cursive wharf Mar 24, 2020, 10:56 PM

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I tried ¯_(ツ)_/¯

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 10:57 PM

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why not use this PSU https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bkp323/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-550fx

SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX...

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it's a little more expensive but has better utilities 🤷‍♂️

stoic island Mar 24, 2020, 11:01 PM

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What about wifi

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previous build had integrated wifi

cursive wharf Mar 24, 2020, 11:02 PM

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@little osprey Because it is worse quality

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overload ripple is worse

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 11:02 PM

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@cursive wharf if you had a r5 3600 and had to choose between 3200 cl16 and 3600 cl18 which would you choose?

cursive wharf Mar 24, 2020, 11:02 PM

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I'd take a guess that the CL18 could be tightened to CL16 with some work

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 11:03 PM

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@cursive wharf what are you talking about? I trust you I just need to see it.

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 11:04 PM

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bad things happen when overloads ripple

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hopefully it just shuts itself off best case scenario

stoic island Mar 24, 2020, 11:04 PM

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I think they want link to some reviewer

cursive wharf Mar 24, 2020, 11:05 PM

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overload voltage ripple
Basically voltage rails (3.3v, 5v, and 12v) will change slightly every ms. Kinda like noise. So at one moment the 12v rail is 12.021v and the next it's 12.025v, and so on. You want this ripple to be as small as possible for consistent voltages and to stay at the desired voltage. Overload is when the PSU is over it's rated wattage. So say running a 550w at 560w or 590w. Generally decent PSU can run at 110% power, 10% overload

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 11:06 PM

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I know what it is.

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I just need to see where your coming from

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like @stoic island said, I'd like a review or the stats that you're referencing.

cursive wharf Mar 24, 2020, 11:09 PM

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for ripple
http://www.pceva.com.cn/article/3911-2.html
Also GPU shutdown issues
https://knowledge.seasonic.com/article/20-focus-plus-and-gpu-potential-compatibility-issues

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 11:09 PM

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@cursive wharf usually knows whats up with PSUs probably saw a review or chart showing that PSU having bad ripple issues

cursive wharf Mar 24, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Also seems like it was CL that was high-ish ripple. recalled it being overload

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but eh, still GPU shutdown issues

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I recommend checking LTT Tier list then sources for it. Looking at the sources helps

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 11:11 PM

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yeah, and those were both about different models 🤣

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but I see your point it does add a bit of a risk.

narrow rose Mar 24, 2020, 11:12 PM

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I like those Asus tuf mobos

little osprey Mar 24, 2020, 11:14 PM

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....

stoic island Mar 24, 2020, 11:20 PM

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yes

cursive wharf Mar 24, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Yes

stoic island Mar 24, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Yes

buoyant flame Mar 25, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Yes

sudden turret Mar 25, 2020, 12:59 AM

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RGBNo

buoyant flame Mar 25, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Bruh

sullen spoke Mar 25, 2020, 1:33 AM

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💯

little osprey Mar 25, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Should I go micro ATX or ATX

teal bison Mar 25, 2020, 2:47 AM

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for case or mobo?

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case size doesnt really matter as long as it supports ATX because if not it will limit your selection of mobos that can fit in it. For motherboards, the size doesnt really matter as long as it fits in your case, although if you have a full ATX case some people may not like the empty space that an mATX would leave

little osprey Mar 25, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Does anyone know if the upHere T7SYC7-6 120 mm Fans
Works with the aorus elite x570

little osprey Mar 25, 2020, 7:07 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HqB7yk is this a good streaming pc, i'm on a budget and don't wanna spend to much

astral flame Mar 25, 2020, 8:02 AM

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no.

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Are you joking

lyric thistle Mar 25, 2020, 8:16 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KpWjb8

System Builder

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You're welcome

lethal wadi Mar 25, 2020, 8:23 AM

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can someone suggest me a great gaming pc for $3000 budget including a monitor

astral flame Mar 25, 2020, 8:25 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jzWjb8

lyric thistle Mar 25, 2020, 8:26 AM

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That list I posted would probably be

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Okay

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Except for the rammies I put 3200 :(

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wwHbcq

System Builder

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Then you can buy like a 1000 dollar monitor or something

lethal wadi Mar 25, 2020, 8:28 AM

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sure thank you so much guys 🙂

lyric thistle Mar 25, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Could also swap the 2070S with a 2080S

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If possible

tranquil dust Mar 25, 2020, 9:20 AM

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1000w psu for an i3 and 1050ti

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seems reasonable tbh honest

lyric thistle Mar 25, 2020, 9:58 AM

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To be tbf fair

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Should probably go 1500w at least to be safe in my imo

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 10:20 AM

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Need a good mb for ryzen 5 gen

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Any ideas

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@tranquil dust

tranquil dust Mar 25, 2020, 10:26 AM

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whats the cpu

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@grave badge

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 10:27 AM

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Rs2600

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Ryzen

tranquil dust Mar 25, 2020, 10:27 AM

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oh i have that too

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what size board

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do you want

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 10:28 AM

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Atx

tranquil dust Mar 25, 2020, 10:28 AM

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okay hold

eager chasm Mar 25, 2020, 10:28 AM

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Any almost any B450 board will be fine

tranquil dust Mar 25, 2020, 10:28 AM

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basically

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 10:29 AM

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You think

tepid basalt Mar 25, 2020, 10:29 AM

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whatever is fine

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unless you have special need

tranquil dust Mar 25, 2020, 10:29 AM

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also depends on ur budget

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Low budget

tranquil dust Mar 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

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how low

tepid basalt Mar 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

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well, if his budget is broad, I don't think he would bother asking

tranquil dust Mar 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

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true

tepid basalt Mar 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

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but yeah

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how much are u willing to pay

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

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5 to 6 hundred

tepid basalt Mar 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

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currency?

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Us

tranquil dust Mar 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

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usd

tepid basalt Mar 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

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no

tranquil dust Mar 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

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ez

tepid basalt Mar 25, 2020, 10:31 AM

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I mean just the mobo

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 10:31 AM

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Yes

tepid basalt Mar 25, 2020, 10:31 AM

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500 dollar for just the mobo?

tranquil dust Mar 25, 2020, 10:31 AM

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.

tepid basalt Mar 25, 2020, 10:31 AM

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just grab the x570 taichi dude

tranquil dust Mar 25, 2020, 10:31 AM

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i think he means 5-6 hundred for the whole build

eager chasm Mar 25, 2020, 10:31 AM

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No reason to pay for X570 unless you have a need for PCIe gen 4

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 10:31 AM

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No yup whole thing

tepid basalt Mar 25, 2020, 10:32 AM

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msi gaming plus

tranquil dust Mar 25, 2020, 10:33 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Performance-Micro-ATX-Motherboard-B450M/dp/B07F7WQDZJ/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=msi+gaming+plus+b450&qid=1585132373&sr=8-3

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wait thats matx

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frick

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https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Performance-Gaming-Crossfire-Motherboard/dp/B07XHH4YG4/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=msi+gaming+plus+b450&qid=1585132394&sr=8-2

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there we go

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 10:46 AM

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They both say 1st and 2and gen ryzen only no 5th gen I don't think they would work for my cpu? Am my wrong?

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What about the x570 I found it on ebay 139

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Or x570 p

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Idk the difference I'm kinda new at this

eager chasm Mar 25, 2020, 10:49 AM

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Welp let me clear something up for you

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The X570 is for 3rd gen Ryzen

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But you can also use B450 or X470 for 3rd gen Ryzen.

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Usually you don't need to buy X570 unless you have a need for extremely fast NVMe SSDs, and not even 4K video editing needs it.

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B450 or X470 will work just as well

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 10:52 AM

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Oh but will the rs2600 work in the b450 mb?

eager chasm Mar 25, 2020, 10:52 AM

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Yes that's the board it was meant for

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 10:53 AM

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Oh ok

eager chasm Mar 25, 2020, 10:53 AM

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B450 and X470 are for 2nd gen ryzen

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 10:54 AM

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I'm confused I thought that was a 5th gen chip

eager chasm Mar 25, 2020, 10:55 AM

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Ryzen MBs start at 300 series for Ryzen 1st gen

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 10:56 AM

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So 3200 is 3 gen

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What do you think about the b450 tomahawk mb

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I meant 3 rd gen

eager chasm Mar 25, 2020, 10:58 AM

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Yea the CPU numbers don't match MB numbers, you just have to get used to it

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😂

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 10:59 AM

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Ok lol

eager chasm Mar 25, 2020, 10:59 AM

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But yea the B450 tomahawk is a fine board

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It will work fine with a 2nd gen 2600

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 11:00 AM

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Is it a good mb

eager chasm Mar 25, 2020, 11:01 AM

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It is

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 11:02 AM

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Better then the other one you put the link to amazon? Just trying to decide which one to buy

eager chasm Mar 25, 2020, 11:03 AM

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I didn't link it, but I wouldn't know spesifically which one is better

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You'd need to check a MB tier list for that

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 11:04 AM

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Ok

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Will do thanks!!

eager chasm Mar 25, 2020, 11:04 AM

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Both will work just fine

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That's all I know

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thumbsupcat

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 11:05 AM

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B450 gaming plus artic cat linked it

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To amazon

foggy hazel Mar 25, 2020, 11:37 AM

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@grave badge "So 3200 is 3 gen" <- actually, no. 3200g/3400g are both 2nd gen. (yes, i know, the names dont make a lick of sense)

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the rest of the 3000 series chips are (so far) 3rd gen

grave badge Mar 25, 2020, 12:22 PM

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K

tranquil dust Mar 25, 2020, 12:35 PM

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artic cat lmao

quick drift Mar 25, 2020, 12:59 PM

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Hello! So I don’t know if this is the right place for this but I have a question. I’m kinda new to PC building but I’m confused on this. To build a PC do you need an Internal Hard Drive and an SSD? Or just one?

sudden turret Mar 25, 2020, 1:08 PM

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typically people like to keep windows OS on a separate drive

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so say a small ssd for your windows, and then a bigger drive for everything else

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but you can get away with just one drive, down fall with that is if you ever have to reinstall windows, you'll lose anything else on that drive.

foggy bough Mar 25, 2020, 3:40 PM

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hello guys

buoyant flame Mar 25, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Hi

cursive wharf Mar 25, 2020, 7:54 PM

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@foggy hazel I think it'd be better to say that 3200g/3400g is Zen+ but 3rd gen and 3000g is Zen but still 3rd gen

foggy hazel Mar 25, 2020, 8:09 PM

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zen+=2nd gen

cursive wharf Mar 25, 2020, 9:14 PM

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But it's still part of the 3rd gen family

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As mobile is also the same, 2nd gen is Zen and 3rd is Zen+, etc. it starts to get confusing trying to switch up the family names rather then just architecture

foggy hazel Mar 25, 2020, 9:18 PM

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when the topic is what works on what board, it the core arch that matters

cursive wharf Mar 25, 2020, 9:19 PM

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tho with b450 you still need a BIOS update for 3200g/etc do you not?

foggy hazel Mar 25, 2020, 9:20 PM

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some yes, some not

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its the reason why i started the original sentence with "technically"

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the bios version that gives support for 3200/3400 is earlier than the version that grants 3rd gen comp.

cursive wharf Mar 25, 2020, 9:22 PM

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interesting

foggy hazel Mar 25, 2020, 9:23 PM

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yes ... interesting ... is the right term for it :)

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its a right mess to explain :)

patent zinc Mar 25, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Should I get a 9th gen. CPU i7 or i9?

teal bison Mar 25, 2020, 9:51 PM

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what are you using the pc for? @patent zinc

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and do you already have a 1151 motherboard?

humble charm Mar 25, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Anyone got any gpu recommendations, I'm planning to upgrade my current rx 570.

teal bison Mar 25, 2020, 9:53 PM

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what budget?

humble charm Mar 25, 2020, 9:53 PM

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100 - 250

teal bison Mar 25, 2020, 9:54 PM

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thats quite the budget range

humble charm Mar 25, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Yup

teal bison Mar 25, 2020, 9:54 PM

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USD?

humble charm Mar 25, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Yes

teal bison Mar 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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well if you can push it to 275 id go with a 5600XT, if not a 1660 super

patent zinc Mar 25, 2020, 9:56 PM

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I don’t have a mother board yet and a budget between 1500 or 1700

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USD

teal bison Mar 25, 2020, 9:57 PM

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for the whole build im assuming, not just the cpu, right?

patent zinc Mar 25, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Yeah but wondering what would last me

teal bison Mar 25, 2020, 9:57 PM

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what are you using the pc for?

patent zinc Mar 25, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Gaming and able to do work space just fine

teal bison Mar 25, 2020, 9:59 PM

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well if i were you id get a ryzen 7 3700x and use the money saved on other components like a better gpu or more ssd storage or something like that

patent zinc Mar 25, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Okay thank ya very much!!

teal bison Mar 25, 2020, 10:01 PM

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no problem

wind leaf Mar 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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@patent zinc if you have the money i recommend getting the 2060 KO

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for a gpu

foggy hazel Mar 25, 2020, 10:35 PM

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he is way way beyond that for budget

floral tree Mar 25, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Got all these cables from my psu and I don’t know what to do with them

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Should I just tuck them away?

buoyant flame Mar 25, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Ah molex... smh

floral tree Mar 25, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Or do they plug into something

buoyant flame Mar 25, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Ya just tuck them away

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Most likely not

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Not all the cables are needed all the time

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Is your system booting?

floral tree Mar 25, 2020, 11:19 PM

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I haven’t tried yet

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Also, I have a case that comes with rgb fans. Should I use the RGB splitter

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Or plug them into system fan

foggy hazel Mar 25, 2020, 11:20 PM

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one looks like a molex (the upper one), the other looks like a sata one

floral tree Mar 25, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Oh. So I can tuck them away

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Or do I need to plug in data

foggy hazel Mar 25, 2020, 11:21 PM

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dont tuck them too far away, you might need them for the RGB

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so dont hide them just yet

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as for the RGB part, i have no idea, sorry.

buoyant flame Mar 25, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Either the molex or sata power might power the rgb. Thats how it was in my old case.

foggy hazel Mar 25, 2020, 11:22 PM

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i believe @sudden turret has a fair deal of experience ?

floral tree Mar 25, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Ok

floral tree Mar 25, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Yeah ok so I booted it up and everything worked, but the rgb fans didn’t light up

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Is that normal?

foggy hazel Mar 25, 2020, 11:41 PM

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are they connected?

floral tree Mar 25, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Yeah they are connected to the system fan

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Am I supposed to plug them into something else?

foggy hazel Mar 25, 2020, 11:42 PM

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depends on the fans

floral tree Mar 25, 2020, 11:42 PM

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They are Corsair fans

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Idk the model

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Came with the case

foggy hazel Mar 25, 2020, 11:43 PM

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look in your manual for the case

floral tree Mar 25, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Yeah it doesn’t really say anything

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Says that but I’m not sure which cables it’s talking about

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foggy hazel Mar 25, 2020, 11:45 PM

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look at your fans

floral tree Mar 25, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Yeah

foggy hazel Mar 25, 2020, 11:46 PM

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look at what kind of connectors there are

floral tree Mar 25, 2020, 11:47 PM

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They don’t look like those connectors

foggy hazel Mar 25, 2020, 11:48 PM

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never said they would :)

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i asked you to look at your fans and see what kind of connectors there are :)

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are there some that are not connectd to something?

floral tree Mar 26, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Ok I got it but now the PC ain’t turning on

foggy hazel Mar 26, 2020, 12:11 AM

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then you either unplugged something you shouldnt

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or you plugged something IN you shouldnt

floral tree Mar 26, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Yeah I didn’t unplug anything

foggy hazel Mar 26, 2020, 12:12 AM

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then just unplug what you plugged, and it should start again

floral tree Mar 26, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Maybe I’m not booting it up right

foggy hazel Mar 26, 2020, 12:12 AM

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but, that is for someone else to help you with, it is time for sleep on my end.

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Best of luck.

floral tree Mar 26, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Alr thanks

little osprey Mar 26, 2020, 2:17 AM

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So I might have more money to spend then I thought for my desktop

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Might upgrade processor

little osprey Mar 26, 2020, 2:40 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WjvcNq

System Builder

little osprey Mar 26, 2020, 3:30 AM

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today my screens randomly went black. I noticed that my graphics cards lights and fans were no longer working as well. but my graphics card works fine in my old pc. any ideas if i could fix this? My pcu still works fine (everything else turns on)
any help lol

sacred obsidian Mar 26, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Finally got a good setup to get a pic of my build 😄

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sullen spoke Mar 26, 2020, 4:22 AM

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that looks pretty nice

sacred obsidian Mar 26, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Woops I meant to put that in build pics xD I’m tired lol

sullen spoke Mar 26, 2020, 5:21 AM

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time to go to bed

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lol

vague crystal Mar 26, 2020, 7:30 AM

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@little osprey i would go for a 3700X and 3600mhz ram instead of 3200

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but thats just me so

wheat epoch Mar 26, 2020, 8:12 AM

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every time i set something in the BIOS just setting the light color it won't post

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some one can help

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motherboard is a b450 aorus m

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i have to reset bios every time pissing me off

buoyant flame Mar 26, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Specs @sacred obsidian

steep plover Mar 26, 2020, 1:43 PM

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@sacred obsidian what mouse? It looks like a G402

buoyant flame Mar 26, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Also whats the little thing next to the mouse

sudden turret Mar 26, 2020, 2:22 PM

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vape

sullen spoke Mar 26, 2020, 2:25 PM

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wuuut

sacred obsidian Mar 26, 2020, 3:32 PM

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G502 se

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and @buoyant flame https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DfGMmg

System Builder

buoyant flame Mar 26, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Nice.

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That monitor looks good btw 👌

wispy remnant Mar 26, 2020, 5:09 PM

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@sacred obsidian how are your temps with the vertical GPU???

foggy hazel Mar 26, 2020, 5:21 PM

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@wispy remnant iirc from his previous comments on it, he has not had any problems

sacred obsidian Mar 26, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Yeah the highest I’ve experienced is 70c last I checked

little osprey Mar 26, 2020, 7:00 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6kgyQq

System Builder

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Yes @narrow rose

sullen spoke Mar 26, 2020, 7:03 PM

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bruh

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the cooler is more than double the cpu

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and a quadro xD

little osprey Mar 26, 2020, 7:04 PM

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PNY Quadro*

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keep in mind

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the case is 1/15th of that

buoyant flame Mar 26, 2020, 7:06 PM

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What am I even looking at

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wuuut

little osprey Mar 26, 2020, 7:07 PM

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a meme build

analog hearth Mar 26, 2020, 10:46 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Guy_Normal/saved/#view=FMXsXL

Saved Part Lists

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Weak

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I need to make a new one

buoyant flame Mar 26, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Just a casual 80tb of storage nothing fancy

analog hearth Mar 26, 2020, 10:57 PM

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@buoyant flame scroll down more

buoyant flame Mar 26, 2020, 10:58 PM

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The bus link drives?

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@analog hearth

analog hearth Mar 26, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Yeah

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Storage nonetheless lmao

buoyant flame Mar 26, 2020, 10:59 PM

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i counted those

analog hearth Mar 26, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Debatable

buoyant flame Mar 26, 2020, 11:01 PM

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uh ok not sure how but...

analog hearth Mar 26, 2020, 11:04 PM

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There’s definitely 79.625TB in that system lmfao

lavish beacon Mar 26, 2020, 11:09 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xzjkzN or https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7nKgq3

System Builder

buoyant flame Mar 26, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Ya um thats what i said lol

little osprey Mar 26, 2020, 11:34 PM

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@lavish beacon The first list: You do not need a cooler unless you are OCing

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The 970 Evo Plus is not the best for the price

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Will you be overclocking?

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And the 2nd build could be better

analog hearth Mar 27, 2020, 12:44 AM

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@lavish beacon I can't tell if you're serious

blissful nymph Mar 27, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Got a question. I’m planning on buying a ryzen 9 9800x but my Gpu is a gtx 1660ti. Will it cause bottlenecking?

stoic island Mar 27, 2020, 2:20 AM

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what

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the heck

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is a ryzen 9 9800x

blissful nymph Mar 27, 2020, 2:20 AM

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I mean 3900

stoic island Mar 27, 2020, 2:21 AM

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depends on the workload, it always does.

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gaming, gpu is way too weak normally.

blissful nymph Mar 27, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Yeah. Guess ill be saving up for a better gpu then

little osprey Mar 27, 2020, 3:51 AM

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I think a 2060 super would be good enough

little osprey Mar 27, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Is the aorus elite a good mobo

tepid basalt Mar 27, 2020, 8:26 AM

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a sapphire rx5700 pulse at $425

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a gbt rtx 2060 super windforce at $442

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which one is the better choice? 🤔

narrow rose Mar 27, 2020, 11:16 AM

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2060

little osprey Mar 27, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Take all things into consideration @tepid basalt
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060-vs-AMD-RX-5700/4034vs4046

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if you're looking to overclock you might want to do some research on how they both perform, considering the rx5700 is a blower card and those typically run hotter

narrow rose Mar 27, 2020, 12:46 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2060-06g-p4-2068-kr/p/N82E16814487486?item=N82E16814487486&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-video+card+-+nvidia-_-N82E16814487486&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyPbzBRDsARIsAFh15JbiVRPmwhAjUXOGEes4xQPGbLtrHTii5YSJ_TgXn9JHzXffXniom7waAv4cEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds also a viable option since its back

little osprey Mar 27, 2020, 12:52 PM

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and at $320 with a $20 rebate card, that's the winner

foggy bough Mar 27, 2020, 5:51 PM

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aye guys is my rig good?its gtx 1080 ti ryzen 5 2600 600w thermaltake plus standard 240gb toshiba ssd 1tb HDD vengeance plx 3000mhz 16gb ram (2*8gb) B450 tomahawk 3 case fans and a 144hz monitor 24" 1ms

stoic island Mar 27, 2020, 5:53 PM

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good for what?

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CPU heavy loads? no

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gaming? pretty good I guess

analog hearth Mar 27, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Gaming? Yes. Rendering video? Yes (good but not great)

narrow rose Mar 27, 2020, 5:54 PM

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its quite good

stoic island Mar 27, 2020, 5:54 PM

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2600 is weak imo for cpu loads

analog hearth Mar 27, 2020, 5:54 PM

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I wouldn’t upgrade anything for now

stoic island Mar 27, 2020, 5:54 PM

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yea not upgrade but

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a bit weak

analog hearth Mar 27, 2020, 5:54 PM

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There’s just no need to upgrade imo

narrow rose Mar 27, 2020, 5:55 PM

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yeah I mean that 1080ti is getting the bottleneck treatment but its not too bad

foggy bough Mar 27, 2020, 5:55 PM

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im gonna play games

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like overwatch and other stuff