#building-and-recc-chat

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vagrant gulch
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1080p resolution

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any of those is fine

teal bison
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and i assume you already have more storage/are going to buy more later

vagrant gulch
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Yes. At the moment I'm planning to buy 256 gb ssd, but later will try to upgrade it to 500 to 1 tb.

teal bison
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ok

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i would go with something like this, its $25 more than your original build but has a 1660 super instead of a 570 which is much better

vagrant gulch
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Alright cool, thank you so much. I think I might have a few more questions. So when I was chatting with a friend about it, he was telling me something about the bronze for the PSU not being the best or something along the lines of that

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Is this alright and once I get more money could I replace it and the 1660 with the same chassis?

teal bison
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the efficiency rating doesnt matter a whole lot, what actually matters is the quality of the psu, and yes that case should support many upgrades

vagrant gulch
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Ah ok that's great to hear. My last question right now is just about supplies. I know I have to get thermal paste and already plan to order some soon. My friend said I just also need a magnetic screw driver and that's all I had to get and I was done.

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Any recommended brands for magnetic screw drivers?

sacred obsidian
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magnetic screw driver isnt neccesary but will make your job so much easier. if you are willing to spend the money, the iFixIt kit is the best little tool kit i've ever boughten

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and it comes with a grounding bracelet so you dont accidentally short out your build. if you dont use that make sure you destatic by touching bare metal before handling your parts

vagrant gulch
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Oh ok I'll look into this and I keep hearing about that and was confused about it

sacred obsidian
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its just a good quality kit for building pcs, fixing phones, laptops, etc etc. its a little pricey but i think it's worth it and it's come in handy quite a bit for me but i also like to tinker with stuff haha

vagrant gulch
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I see lol. Tinkering with stuff seems fun tbh. I don't think I would do it though since I'm afraid to. I think I have a toolkit, I'll have to check since it's been a year, but if not I'll try to see if I can pick this up, thanks.

sacred obsidian
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np and good luck 🙂

vagrant gulch
gusty juniper
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Looking at 2 sets of grill trident memory
1st set 16 19 19 39
2nd set 14 14 14 34
There's about 100 dollars difference in the price, is it a noticeable difference and is it worth the extra money
Both sets are 2 x16gb

warped moat
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Not enough to warrent an extra 100

cursive wharf
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Well if you look around you can find better prices too

icy plume
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@subtle halo would that be your build?

jade grove
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guys, im at a crossroads. im building a system for my gf, and want it to be ryzen based seeing as it seems to be the best value. But i cant decide if i should go with a R5 1600 (AF skew, on 12 nm process, basically a 2600) or should i jump to the R5 2600 instead? its about a $35 difference with the 1600 AF being cheaper

wary geode
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Should I get Corsair vengeance pro or g skill trident z

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For rgb reasons

errant berry
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Whichever is cheaper @wary geode

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As long as the mhz speed isnt bad, id go with the cheaper

wary geode
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Corsair it is then thanks

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Yeah it’s 90 for the Corsair vengeance pro white

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And 100 for the g skill

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Thanks

sullen spoke
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if the speed and timings are fine

stray pine
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what mid tower cases were good

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phantek?

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like the p400 or somethign

wide sparrow
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P400a

long fractal
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@jade grove go for the 1600 AF, newer technology and basically same performance even a little faster and cheaper. Win win win there

upper condor
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@long fractal its not a little faster, but significantly better value

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Out of stock sometimes

deep skiff
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the only reason to get the 2600 over it is for slightly better clock speeds

teal bison
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I'd rather spend the money saved on a gammax and overclock the af than get a 2600

long fractal
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@upper condor yea icic, more power efficient tho with the 12nm vs 14nm or something?

warped moat
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They both use 12nm

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1st gen used 14nm

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2nd used 12nm

wheat epoch
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looking for 450w power supply upgrade for a dell model l280p-01

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its hard to find the right dimension

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trying to build a sleeper lol

foggy hazel
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@wheat epoch that model number is the PSU itself

wheat epoch
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yup

foggy hazel
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and i am guessing that you are looking for a replacement right? (which is not a DELL unit)

wheat epoch
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yes

foggy hazel
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then the actual machine model could help

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because that PSU is used in some models where a normal atx actually fits

wheat epoch
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bigger 450w with right demension

foggy hazel
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l280p-01 <- that shape is very much a custom dell unit

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meaning, you can either buy any of the replacement units that are available or you can buy one of the original units that are available.

wheat epoch
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na won't work

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its like 4 7/8 wide

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4 inch high

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5" 3/8 long

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can't put any one in there its tight

foggy hazel
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please read what i said again.

wheat epoch
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you have a part number

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or a link

foggy hazel
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okay, lets try one more time:

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What is the model of the CASE that you are trying to find a psu for

wheat epoch
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DCNE

icy plume
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@willow mulch we stan integrated

foggy hazel
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@wheat epoch that is a Optiplex

wheat epoch
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think so can't tell

foggy hazel
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and depending on how much of the inside you can free up, a regular ATX psu might actually fit

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however, a SFX will fit

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but it will require a bracket

wheat epoch
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ok sfx

foggy hazel
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the main problem is the way that the inside of the case is

wheat epoch
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ya pretty much lol

foggy hazel
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you got the ability to take a photo of it?

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since you have the case there right?

wheat epoch
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yup

foggy hazel
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@sudden turret can you grant picture posting rights to @wheat epoch ?

wheat epoch
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i could

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no

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i need permission

foggy hazel
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yes, which is what i have asked one of the mods to fix for you :)

wheat epoch
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ok

foggy hazel
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@subtle halo can you grant picture posting rights to @wheat epoch ?

wheat epoch
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yup

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just did

subtle halo
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ok post image @wheat epoch

wheat epoch
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@subtle halo

subtle halo
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try to upload image now

foggy hazel
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thank you @subtle halo :)

wheat epoch
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👍🏻

foggy hazel
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@wheat epoch could you post a picture of the top of the inside of the case?

foggy hazel
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thank you

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based on the last pic, SFX seems the simplest solution

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because that gives you the most amount of space to work with on the inside

wheat epoch
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ok thanks

foggy hazel
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your main challenge is going to be the GPU placement [edit: your]

wheat epoch
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well changing the board

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putting a asus micro ATX

foggy hazel
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m-atx seems too big?

wheat epoch
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no its not bad just some costumization

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mounting costumization

foggy hazel
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+IO

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  • expansion slots being blocked by that board
wheat epoch
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yup lol

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just guet a adapter

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for it

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extension adapter

foggy hazel
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you still need a space for the IO on the board

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and you need the physical "room" for the card itself

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which will probably mean, m.2 or 2.5 ssd

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m.2 being preferred

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so that you can potentially use the space where the 3.5 hdd is now

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maybe @celest horizon or @austere condor has something to add, both having some experience with quirky builds

wheat epoch
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ya it's not the actual board im going to put in there

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just to see if the micro atx would fit

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i will use that 3.5 hdd for now

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and that ome io im going to cut it and make the other one fit

foggy hazel
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the current IO in the case is not what i am worried about

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that is trivial to cut and get working

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its the actual space for things that are going to be interesting

wheat epoch
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ya

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ill make it work lol

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me it's the fans that is going to be a challenge

celest horizon
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What size fans will fit?

austere condor
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probably get some 80mm fans in

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could be an options

wheat epoch
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ok

austere condor
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Linus used one of these to run a R7 3700x and a RTX 2060 in a SFF build

wheat epoch
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ok 300w

buoyant flame
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So my friend needed help because 8gb of his 16 wasn't being recognized and we figured out that not only were the ram in the wrong dimm slots, 1 of the sticks also wasn't plugged in. After plugging in both sticks and moving them to the correct dimm slots his computer won't post now

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the lights turn on and the fans spin but the display keyboard and mouse don't turn on

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any ideas?

foggy hazel
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pull the ram, try it stick by stick @buoyant flame

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and slot by slot

buoyant flame
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we did

deep skiff
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so it doesn't post at all?

buoyant flame
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correct

wheat epoch
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just remove all of it and keep one and it will post and try again putting it back in

buoyant flame
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we tried using only one stick and same result

wheat epoch
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wow ok

buoyant flame
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we tried different sticks in different slots and nothing

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ive never experienced this befiore

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before

celest horizon
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Have you tried clearing the cmos?

wheat epoch
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yup

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sometimes you could remove the battery

buoyant flame
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me?

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what battery

wheat epoch
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on the motherboard for bios

buoyant flame
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I can't get into the bios

wheat epoch
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just remove the battery on the motherboard

buoyant flame
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oooh nvm i get it

wheat epoch
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ya lol

buoyant flame
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brain fart

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ill try and let you know

wheat epoch
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kk

buoyant flame
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its annoying because im not at his house rn so im in a face time with him instructing him so the communication is slow

wheat epoch
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ya lol

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ill have to put the battery back in

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after

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set the time and date again in bios if it post

buoyant flame
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the battery is under the gpu and he doesn't want to remove it

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you still here @foggy hazel ?

wheat epoch
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ya ok there must have some pins with a cap on it move it and should clear it

buoyant flame
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?

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i dont understand

wheat epoch
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shoul say clr_cmos on the board

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some time there's a blue cap on it

buoyant flame
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move it where

wheat epoch
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the other 2

buoyant flame
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ive never done this before and i need to explain it to him

wheat epoch
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there supposed to have 4 pins

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with blue cap

buoyant flame
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can you take a clearer picture please?

wheat epoch
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should say CLR_CMOS on board

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what kind of motherboard he as

buoyant flame
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this is my board since im not with him rn. could you instruct me based on my board

wheat epoch
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yup that's it

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he gots it move it to original place now and try again

buoyant flame
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the original place is where?

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im sry i dont understand

wheat epoch
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move it to 3 and 4

upper condor
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@buoyant flame find the battery

buoyant flame
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the battery is under his gpu which he doesn't want to remove

upper condor
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Well its a lot easier if they di

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It takes 3 minutes

wheat epoch
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sorry 2 and 3

buoyant flame
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ok i assumed

upper condor
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If he just takes out gpu and then grabs flat head screw and rub it against the 2 pins itll clear it

wheat epoch
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yup

buoyant flame
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I don't think i can convince him to take the gpu out and frankly i don't trust him to. He is incredibly unsure of himself

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if i was at his house i would do it but im not

upper condor
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Its soooo easytho

wheat epoch
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just move that cap to 2 and 3

buoyant flame
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i dunno what to tell you

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give me a minute

wheat epoch
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ok

buoyant flame
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ill try to get him to do the pin thin

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thing

wheat epoch
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👍🏻

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he have to put it back to original place after he did it

buoyant flame
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ok

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this is his board

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i can't find it

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is it under the front io pins possibly?

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@wheat epoch

wheat epoch
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?

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not there i guess

buoyant flame
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I can't find the pins with the cap on them

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his board is the ASRock z390 pro 4b

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if that helps

wheat epoch
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ok un sec

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one

buoyant flame
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ok

wide sparrow
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@willow mulch what fans are those?

foggy hazel
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@buoyant flame aye

wheat epoch
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CLRMOS1 it say

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and it's a black cap

foggy hazel
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that is board dependant @wheat epoch

wheat epoch
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@buoyant flame

foggy hazel
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a fair number of new boards dont have a 3 pin-out

buoyant flame
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what's your suggestion naed

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because i still can't find it

wheat epoch
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you will have to go there lol

buoyant flame
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ya... thats not gonna be fun

foggy hazel
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2sec @buoyant flame

buoyant flame
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ok

foggy hazel
buoyant flame
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i believe so

foggy hazel
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its a 3-pin setup on that one

buoyant flame
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its a brebuilt from bestbuy and i took the board name from here

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ok ill look for that naed

foggy hazel
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just unzip and run

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there is a tab that tells him what it is

wheat epoch
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diagram its saying clmos1 3pin

foggy hazel
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doh!!

buoyant flame
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i can't run it because his pc wont boot

foggy hazel
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yeah

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i remembered that just about ½sec before i wrote doh

buoyant flame
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ok

foggy hazel
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that is what i get for being focused on 4 things at the same time :)

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sorry about that @buoyant flame

buoyant flame
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np

foggy hazel
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see the z390 pro4 legend/text ?

buoyant flame
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yes

foggy hazel
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tell your mate to confirm if that is there or not

buoyant flame
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ok one sec

wheat epoch
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bottom of GPU

buoyant flame
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he can't find it Distraught

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im trying so hard rn hold on

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he just sent me this

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do you see it?

foggy hazel
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its not the PRO 4 board

buoyant flame
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humph

foggy hazel
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but yes, i do see it

buoyant flame
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where

wheat epoch
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there's no cap on it I'll have to touch it with screw driver

foggy hazel
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that is for you to figure out, but it is there @buoyant flame

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@wheat epoch different boards

wheat epoch
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yup seen that

sacred obsidian
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what is he looking for?

foggy hazel
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@buoyant flame its a 2 pin, its close to another 2 pin

willow mulch
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@wide sparrow the fans are gamdias aeolus m1-120s

buoyant flame
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i thought that wasn't his board

foggy hazel
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@sacred obsidian dont tell him. But he is looking for the clrmos (clear cmos) pins

buoyant flame
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im so lost lol

wheat epoch
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clearmos1

foggy hazel
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@buoyant flame the picture you sent

wheat epoch
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right there

foggy hazel
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@wheat epoch have a bit of patience here

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@buoyant flame on that picture, i can see the pins you are looking for

buoyant flame
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is it this one

foggy hazel
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does it say CLRMOS1 underneath? (yes i know it does)

buoyant flame
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its too blury for me

foggy hazel
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then open the original

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because that is actually a really good picture

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in a fairly bonkers resolution

buoyant flame
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im sorry i must be seeing a different picture

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can you hop in a call with me real quick?

foggy hazel
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click that

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then underneath the picture, click open original

buoyant flame
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thats better

foggy hazel
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that is the picture YOU sent @buoyant flame

buoyant flame
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wow yah lol im stupid i didnt open the original i was looking at it in discord

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ok so touch those pins with a flathead then?

foggy hazel
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yes

buoyant flame
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and then what

foggy hazel
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did he pull the power from the board before he did that?

buoyant flame
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he hasn't done it yet hold on

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he did it and nothing happened

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he drained the power and then touched them and nothing happened @foggy hazel

foggy hazel
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that is what is "supposed" to happen @buoyant flame

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exactly nothing

buoyant flame
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ok so now what

foggy hazel
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power back in

buoyant flame
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ok

foggy hazel
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now please tell me where he has the monitor connected?

buoyant flame
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ill check one second

wide sparrow
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@willow mulch thanks

willow mulch
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Np

sacred obsidian
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i have another question tho

willow mulch
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Speke

sacred obsidian
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how long did he wait before saying it doesnt turn on

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cause when adding ram it can not do anything for a lil bit

buoyant flame
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the pc turns on and the fans spin but the monitor keyboard and mouse do not

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we waited like a few minutes

sacred obsidian
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wait like at least 10

buoyant flame
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with the computer on?

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ya thats a dumb question dont answer that

sacred obsidian
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lmao

foggy hazel
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there are no stupid questions, only silly answers @buoyant flame

buoyant flame
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ok we're going to wait and see what happens

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at the moment its still the same thing

foggy hazel
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a bit of focus on the questions you get asked @buoyant flame :)

buoyant flame
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wdym?

foggy hazel
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"ill check one second" <- the answer?

buoyant flame
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oh my bad let me ask him im sry

foggy hazel
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nothing to be sorry about.

buoyant flame
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his graphics card

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@foggy hazel

foggy hazel
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and you are certain of that right?

buoyant flame
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he just checked

foggy hazel
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as in, you have actually seen the cable

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not what i am asking

buoyant flame
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no i did not personally see it

foggy hazel
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i have no way of knowing if he knows where his GPU actually is

buoyant flame
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ya this is frustrating because he's talking to someone else and im talking to you and him and the stupid video call keeps breaking up. Ik that he knows where his gpu is tho

foggy hazel
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well, here is a bit of advice for you @buoyant flame

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if someone cannot give you their full attention while they are asking you for help? tell them to go jump on a lamppost

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because obviously it is not "that" important for him to fix it

buoyant flame
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lol ya well he was giving me his full attention before so we're like kinda stuck now but ill have to wait

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thx for your help. I rly just want to go over there and get the stupid thing fixed 😭

foggy hazel
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you know that i dont mind helping, not one bit.

buoyant flame
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yep ik

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doesn't mean that im not going to thank you tho 😉

sacred obsidian
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im wondering if he just didnt seat the ram properly

foggy hazel
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However, you have to keep in mind. People read/hear what they "think" you are saying.

sacred obsidian
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cause you gotta push a lot harder than most people are comfortable doing if they dont do it often

foggy hazel
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hence why i asked about the GPU

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there are a bunch of questions that could be asked @sacred obsidian

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but until mr Busy gets his head in the game, nothing we can do

sacred obsidian
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tru

buoyant flame
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Ya theres definately a chance he didn't seat it properly because he'

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he's never done it before but i was trying to watch him and the slots did click in so idk

foggy hazel
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@buoyant flame go over the start of this with us

buoyant flame
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ok sure thing

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so basically heres the story. He asked me if he should buy more ram since he only had 8gb. I knew he couldn't possibly have 8gb in a prebuilt with an i7 8700 and a gtx 1080. I asked him to show me his ram slots. Everything looked fine so i told him to unplug them and plug them back in. He saw that one of the sticks was not put in properly and we took them out and put them back in. Ever since they were put back in the system has not booted.

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thats basically it

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let me know if i need to elaborate in any areas

foggy hazel
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that is fine.

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so. question time:

upper condor
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Have you tried a single ram stick in?

buoyant flame
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yes

foggy hazel
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how long has he had the machine?

buoyant flame
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few years

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2 or 3 maybe

foggy hazel
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ok

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does he by chance know which of his two sticks was the one that WAS plugged in?

buoyant flame
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at this point no

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unfortunately

foggy hazel
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okay

buoyant flame
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woah he just texted me he got in the bios somehow

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lemme call him and find out whats happening rn hold on

wheat epoch
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nice yes

buoyant flame
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you know...... sometimes you gotta be patient and forgiving

sacred obsidian
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what was it

buoyant flame
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HE DIDN'T PUSH THE RAM IN ALL THE WAY

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ok had to get that out

sacred obsidian
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called it

buoyant flame
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dufhaiuwebvpoiuawberpougjbapwowjerbgpoiwaubpseoruigjb

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ok im done

sacred obsidian
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lol

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like i said

wheat epoch
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thought so

buoyant flame
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i wasted so much time with something i literally could of done in 30 seconds

sacred obsidian
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people who dont do this normally are usually afraid to push it as hard as you need to

buoyant flame
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that was exactly the case

wheat epoch
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good good

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16 gb

buoyant flame
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hold on he said his screen and everything turned off again now

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this is never gonna end

sacred obsidian
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at this point

foggy hazel
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@buoyant flame i would like to remind you of what i said earlier: "However, you have to keep in mind. People read/hear what they "think" you are saying."

sacred obsidian
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tell him to join the discord

buoyant flame
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yep thats for sure @foggy hazel

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why

sacred obsidian
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i mean like if you have to keep relaying stuff, it will be easier to be able to go directly to him. faster response and all

buoyant flame
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ya but i don't think he will but ill ask in a minute

sacred obsidian
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but also at this point id typically like to have eyes on the pc

foggy hazel
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and i would like to point to what i said about a lamppost @buoyant flame

buoyant flame
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yep i remember 😂

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he said no btw

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ok im done with the problem

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i think he has it now

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thx again for all the feedback guys

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rly appreciate it

wheat epoch
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👍🏻

buoyant flame
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i literally just wasted 2 hours of my life because he didn't put the ram in correctly... but whateever

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you guys made it more bearable 😉

foggy hazel
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you are very welcome @buoyant flame

buoyant flame
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im not giving him more help unless i can be there in person

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lol

sharp perch
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If I buy an electronic from amazon do I get a random outlet for a monitor or the power supply or is it like they check

stoic island
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what

outer locust
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what is a good build for 800$? 850$ max if you think that 50$ will drastically increase the performance

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also possible to fit a ryzen 3600 and 5600xt/5700 in that budget?

grizzled breach
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is this the place where i ask for help because am nub and just built new pc and have to work out a few kinks?

errant berry
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Yea this is the chat

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But i dont know much so dont ask me lol

grizzled breach
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lmao

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baller. working with a NZXT h710i case and asus prime x570-p mobo. case comes pre-wired with their fan/led controller and 2 LED strips and 4 case fans. 3 front/1 rear. i got the LED's going but the fans wont spin. nzxt cam app sees the fans. i can adjust the profiles for the fans. but they wont start. what did i screw up?

teal bison
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@outer locust yes it is

outer locust
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you have a build for it

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?

teal bison
rapid oak
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hey i am just wondering what are opinions on motherboards for a ryzen 5 3600

teal bison
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@rapid oak what budget?

rapid oak
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mid range and don't need wifi

teal bison
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mid range, so like $100? they start at about $70 and go up to 150

rapid oak
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yeah around that

teal bison
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the asus tuf b450m-pro gaming is pretty good

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at $95

rapid oak
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yeah i have head that is good

foggy hazel
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there really isnt anything that competes with it

rapid oak
#

ok thanks just making sure cause that was the one i was thinking about

foggy hazel
#

with that particular board, one of the strengths is that there is a decent soundcard on it

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so IF your audio gear is mini-jack based, thats the board for you

cursive wharf
#

I mean also 2x NVMe M2 slots (seems like some other dual M2 based boards this cheap is 1x NVMe + 1x SATA only)

little osprey
#

Is anybody familiar with linux registration editor?
Please dm me
Thanks

timber trench
#

What’s a better case Corsair 275R or 275R Airflow?

teal bison
#

probably airflow, because... well... airflow

timber trench
#

True lol

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What’s a good psu for under $100?

icy plume
#

@timber trench depends on the wattage you need

strange garden
#

I7-8700 vs i7-9700k pros and cons (is hyper threading worth it?)

timber trench
#

Seems pretty good but $90 for 550W idk? @foggy hazel

cursive wharf
#

Voltage ripple/regulation, transient response, protections, cap quality, fan noise, lack of coil whine, fan quality, fully modular, etc are all the reasons as to why the PSU above was chosen @timber trench

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As of right now there aren't any PSUs that beat it in quality at that price except for some Bitfenix PSUs that are usually out of stock

formal coyote
#

hum quick question

galax 1080ti hof edition says it requires 3x 8pin connectors.is the 3rd just for the added rgb plate or this beast kills electricity like i kill tacos?

cursive wharf
#

Isn't that a card more made to be ready for LN2 OC and stuff? So as such kinda needs to have the stupid amounts of pin usage

formal coyote
#

idk i was about to buy one because they are looking really nice and all with the all white build and the lcd screen, but hell they have a 3 x 8pin connector, cant imagine a card that needs such power..

loud apex
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Hei where ur pfp from

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pretty useful

deep skiff
#

@formal coyote how much are you paying, those are kind of like kingpin cards but less extreme. if its more than $425 id pass

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and it draws around 300w, dont think you need the third 8 pin unless xoc/extreme overclocking

timber trench
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@cursive wharf is it worth the same price of a Semi-Modular 750W PSU tho?

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I trying to post a picture of the two PSU’s but I can’t send pics here I guess

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anyways the other psu is the Corsair CX-M PSU

cursive wharf
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@timber trench apart from 3.3v rail transient response that PSU is worse in every other regard

formal coyote
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@deep skiff 500 (canadian tho so like 380-400 US maybe )

timber trench
#

I see

cursive wharf
#

Main things to consider is noise and modularity. The CXM has coil whine issues, a louder fan, and is only semi modular instead of fully modular

timber trench
#

Ah Alright APM is it then, thanks for the help

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And 550W should be able to handle upgrade in the futures right? Like a 2070 and R7 3800X?

cursive wharf
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550w can handle upto stock 3950x + 2080Ti

timber trench
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Oh dang ok

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Thanks

formal coyote
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( 2 x8 pin connectors rare and above spec )

cries in 3 x 8 pin ....

deep skiff
#

shame it only uses 2 tho

formal coyote
#

no way in hell my 550w b3 can power up this 3 x 8 pin

sullen spoke
#

bruh

mossy pine
#

Hi. Im needing a lil help putting my computer together. Mainly the wiring connectoer and where they go

timber trench
cursive wharf
#

@formal coyote For the most part that GPU will peak at about 300w - 350w I'd assume. It'll go more if OCed. Just because it has 3x8pin doesnt mean it'll use it

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@timber trench RAM is overpriced, SSD is overpriced, GPU is overpriced, case is overpriced, and fans are overpriced. Lots of money wasted

timber trench
#

SSD has very fast read and write speed for half the price of an EVO+

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RAM has RGB, 3200MHz, 2x8GB

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GPU has RGB and is known as a good budget GPU

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Case has good airflow and 3 included 120mm fans

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Fans match the case, have controllable RGB, and includes an internal fan controller

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Those are the reasons why I thought they are worth the money but you want to give suggestions feel free to do so

deep skiff
#

:v every time you say rgb you pay more for it

timber trench
#

Rgb costs more

buoyant flame
#

Those fans are expensive. There's decent rgb fans are Amazon that perform well. You pay for brand name with corsair

timber trench
#

Corsair has really good software to control and sync other RGB products I own that’s why I went with Corsair

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If you find better and cheaper fans please feel free to send them over

mossy pine
#

I need help

deep skiff
timber trench
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RGB is worth it

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Gives off a really nice look to the build

robust island
#

I have a Dell Optiplex 7020 desktop running windows 10 and need an HDMI output card, any recommendations? thanks,

buoyant flame
#

@timber trench if corsair is the only software you use for rgb then your outta luck for non corsair fans (corsair doesn't have great support for anything but their own) if you have another software then I would recommend these

timber trench
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I don’t mind using other softwares

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And I would go for that option but I don’t like a physical remote to control the rgb, software is way more convenient to me

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Oh btw

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For the 1660 Super

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I didn’t notice the price when @cursive wharf mentioned it

buoyant flame
#

Ya lol thats a bad price

timber trench
#

But the price is usually $250 not $280 lol

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I wouldn’t pay $280 for a 1660 Super

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I’d get a TI at that point

buoyant flame
#

Are you planning on vertically mounting your gpu?

timber trench
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Or even a 2060

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Nah

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Maybe in the future but not on first build

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I’ll keep it horizontally for a while at first then I might make it vertical

buoyant flame
#

Ok so just FYI, fgb on a gpu that isn't vertically mounted is not worth it imo. I'd rather get a 2060 like u said 👍

timber trench
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Ah

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I see your point

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Is there a 2060 you recommend for a good price with rgb only on the sides? (Rgb optional)

buoyant flame
#

I mean like u can see it when you look from under it but otherwise its definitely not a major reason to get it

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I can look real quick

timber trench
#

True

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Alright thx

buoyant flame
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Max budget?

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For gpu only

timber trench
#

$350 I would say if it has rgb

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Cheaper would be better tho

buoyant flame
#

K

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Kinda hard to find at that price point since everything is a 2060 super now for like 400 but there is this one

#
#

Has a rebate to put you right under 350 😉

timber trench
#

Oh that’s the same one I was looking at but a 2060 lol

buoyant flame
#

Yep

timber trench
#

Not bad with a rebate

buoyant flame
#

However at that point its probably better to save a little and get a 2060s fe

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Ik its a lot more tho

timber trench
#

Yeah but I need to get parts fast since COVID-19 is a big thing and limiting shipments

buoyant flame
#

Ok

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There's always used tho

timber trench
#

Nah lol

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I don’t trust used

buoyant flame
#

Ok. Its definitely not the safe way

timber trench
#

Yeah lol

buoyant flame
#

I'm gonna look a little more tho

timber trench
#

A non rgb 2060 is not bad either tho

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Around 330

buoyant flame
#

Ok

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2060 is kinda hard to find new because its been replaced by the 2060s now 😕

timber trench
#

Ik

timber trench
#

Too expensive tho

buoyant flame
#

Non rgb

timber trench
#

Not bad

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320 is a good price

buoyant flame
#

Decent card

timber trench
#

So now I’m between 1660 Super $250 and a 2060 $320

buoyant flame
#

Pretty much

timber trench
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If the 1660S price goes down

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Cause Ik $280 is not worth it

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I’ll get it

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But if it stays $280

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I’ll get the 2060

timber trench
#

Yeah but since my budget is $1,200 I can fit rgb into the price

buoyant flame
#

Fair enough

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It is cosmetics vs performance

clever sluice
#

I’ve been trying to build a pc for a while and I’m slacking , my budget is 1,518USD . Im trying to make a build for pure gaming, I want to play escape from tarkov,rust,squad,arma3,dayz games like those. First build and I already have a cpu which is a ryzen 5 3600 . Please help this poor soul

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I just can’t figure out what to buy

timber trench
#

Do you have a parts list?

clever sluice
#

No

timber trench
#

Trying making one

clever sluice
#

May I send you the ones I’ve been sent . Can you see if there good or not?

timber trench
#

Sure

clever sluice
#

Thank u

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And yes I need a monitor and a case . Already have headset and keyboard and mouse

timber trench
#

Let me fix this for you

foggy hazel
#

the monitor, is that to be included in the 1500-ish budget?

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@clever sluice

timber trench
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First list is really bad

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So I’ll work with the second list

clever sluice
#

@foggy hazel yes ,

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Ok moonlight thanks

foggy hazel
#

and just to clarify, you have already bought the 3600?

clever sluice
#

Yep

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Still in box

foggy hazel
#

its the "box" version where the cooler is included?

clever sluice
#

Yea , it has that stock cooler

foggy hazel
#

okay

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do you need/want wifi?

clever sluice
#

As in like the motherboard?

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Does that just make my WiFi faster ?

foggy hazel
#

it does not magically make your wifi faster :)

timber trench
clever sluice
#

Lol ok , may you explain what the good thing about having WiFi with your motherboard

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@timber trench thx I’ll look at it and save it in my notes

timber trench
#

WiFi in a mobo is way faster than buying an average WiFi card

foggy hazel
#

@timber trench wrong.

timber trench
#

I’m not wrong I’ve tested it before

clever sluice
#

WiFi Carr ?

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*card

timber trench
#

Getting WiFi separate from the motherboard

foggy hazel
#

@clever sluice the advantage of wifi "in" the mainboard is price and convenience.

timber trench
#

Unless you get a high-end WiFi card it might be better

clever sluice
#

Hm , if I don’t get a motherboard with WiFi I’ll have to by a WiFi card ? So I can connect my pc to the WiFi ? Sorry I’m new to this

timber trench
#

Yes

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However not all WiFi cards have Bluetooth

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If that’s important to you or not

clever sluice
#

Oh , I never knew that . How come people don’t add WiFi cards to there build list then

timber trench
#

Most use Ethernet

foggy hazel
#

because people generally try to NOT use wifi

timber trench
#

Ethernet is much faster

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I have to use WiFi tho

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Cause the router is way to far from my room

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But yeah if you can use Ethernet I highly recommend it

clever sluice
#

Wait Ethernet? Lol I’m so lost . What’s that ? Do you mean internet

timber trench
#

Lol

clever sluice
#

Lol

timber trench
#

Internet but not WiFi

foggy hazel
#

@clever sluice do you currently have a machine?

timber trench
#

Ethernet is a wired connection

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A cable from the router to your pc

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WiFi is a wireless connection

clever sluice
#

Machine ? Wired ? ..... Ight hold up . Right now I have a internet router . Wireless

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Oh so Ethernet is wired

timber trench
#

You can hook up a wire to the router

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And then hook up that wire to the pc

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That’s Ethernet

clever sluice
#

Ahh

timber trench
#

Yeah

clever sluice
#

Yea I can’t do that since my router is like in my living room

timber trench
#

Ah

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Same with me

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So WiFi is an alternative

clever sluice
#

Hm ok

timber trench
#

You can get a mobo with WiFi like me

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Or a WiFi card

foggy hazel
#

its not an alternative, it is a requirement.

timber trench
#

Well it’s a requirement if you can’t use Ethernet

clever sluice
#

Oh ok

timber trench
#

Alternative if you can but rather not

foggy hazel
#

which he just said he cant.

timber trench
#

I’m just explaining it

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It doesn’t matter how I say it

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He knows what I mean

clever sluice
#

So to clarify , to have my pc connected to the internet I need to have a WiFi card ? Or I could use a motherboard with WiFi in it or something

timber trench
#

Yes

clever sluice
#

Oh ok

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I understand now

timber trench
#

WiFi cards go into a PCIe x1 slot so make sure you have one that won’t be in use which most likely you will

clever sluice
#

What would I put in a PCle x1 other then a WiFi card ?

timber trench
#

There are many different things you could put

foggy hazel
#

ready for the next question @clever sluice ?

timber trench
#

A sound card, USB adapters, etc.

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You won’t need those tho

clever sluice
#

@foggy hazel hold on , would I be able to hear sound with a headset even without a sound card ?

foggy hazel
#

yes

clever sluice
#

Oh ok

foggy hazel
#

because you have a soundcard IN the mainboard

clever sluice
#

Then yea I’m ready

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Oh ok

timber trench
#

^

foggy hazel
#

but that brings up the next question

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you have a headset ?

clever sluice
#

Yea

timber trench
#

You’re good then

foggy hazel
#

is it usb or minijack?

clever sluice
#

It’s wireless , it’s for my Xbox tho but I could use a usb and connect it into my pc since apparently it only connect to Xbox sadly

foggy hazel
#

could you find the specific model of headset for us ?

clever sluice
#

Sure

timber trench
#

Yeah I want to see what kind of headset this is lol

clever sluice
#

Go easy on a console pleb

foggy hazel
clever sluice
#

Yup

timber trench
#

How does it connect to your Xbox?

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Bluetooth? USB?

clever sluice
#

Bluetooth

foggy hazel
#

it uses ones of these

clever sluice
#

I just hold a button the the headset then it connects

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@foggy hazel I don’t have that in my Xbox

foggy hazel
#

i know

clever sluice
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Oh, sorry

foggy hazel
#

because the xbox is built for it

clever sluice
#

Oh

foggy hazel
#

nothing to be sorry about :)

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and if you look at the turtlebeach link, you will see them mention that usb adapter

clever sluice
#

:0 would I be able to put that in my pc and then I could connect to it on my pc

timber trench
#

Ah I never knew that was a thing lol

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Yes

clever sluice
#

Oh

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Nice

timber trench
#

But I’m not sure but maybe just a normal Bluetooth adapter works

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@foggy hazel correct me if I’m wrong

clever sluice
#

Hm

foggy hazel
#

i have not tried it with any of the headsets, so i dont know

clever sluice
#

Oh ok

foggy hazel
#

but it would NOT be surprised if it doesnt work with the on-board (in the mainboard bluetooth)

#

so, the dongle would be a requirement.

clever sluice
#

Oh

foggy hazel
#

but, that is a very minor detail

#

dont worry about it

#

next question

clever sluice
#

Alright

foggy hazel
#

do you have any specific requirements in regards to the size and look of the case itself?

clever sluice
#

Hm well honestly for like everything overall i just what performance over looks . So if a ugly case is a beast then I’ll take the ugly case

foggy hazel
#

fair

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monitor question

#

have you got any idea about the size of the monitor you want?

clever sluice
#

Hm well my desk is ... hold on

timber trench
#

24” - 27” is good for budgets

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Mine is 24”

clever sluice
#

59 inches wide and 30 inches long

foggy hazel
#

you most likely mean inches

clever sluice
#

Oops

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Yea inches

timber trench
#

That’s big

clever sluice
#

Which is good ?

foggy hazel
#

150 * 77 cm (width/depth)

#

fairly normal for a desk

clever sluice
#

Yea ^

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Not to big but not 2 small

timber trench
#

You can get a 32” with

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But I don’t recommend

clever sluice
#

Yea

foggy hazel
#

27inch is the practical limit with that depth

timber trench
#

Yeah

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Go for 27”

foggy hazel
#

because you will be too close otherwise

timber trench
#

The part list I gave you

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I gave you 24”

#

Change it to 27” and you’re good to go

foggy hazel
#

(the list you linked Moonlight, you might want to rework it, because it doesnt take into account most of what has been talked about)

timber trench
#

Might be right

clever sluice
#

I have a tv ln my room and it’s 29 inches wide and 17/18 inches tall and when I put it on my desk it felt pretty big

foggy hazel
#

okay, we will return to the monitor question in a bit :)

clever sluice
#

Ok

foggy hazel
#

next question: do you have any idea about what kind of storage you need/want?

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amount wise

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and dont worry if you dont

timber trench
#

I’m gonna have to hop off for a bit, Naed will help you with the rest!

clever sluice
#

Hmm I feel like I definitely want at least 1 tb

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I’m trying to figure out how much storage my Xbox one s has

foggy hazel
#

you have given me enough info about storage @clever sluice

clever sluice
#

Mkay

foggy hazel
#

your One S most likely has a 1tb drive in it

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(where a part of it is reserved for the console itself)

clever sluice
#

Yea I agree. I could always upgrade storage in future correct ?

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Oh

foggy hazel
#

oh yes, upgrading storage is very very simple to do

clever sluice
#

Ok that’s good so if someday I need more then 1tb that’ll be good

foggy hazel
#

current rate is about 55 usd per 2 tb

clever sluice
#

For a 2 tb hdd?

foggy hazel
#

yes

#

but

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that is a hdd, not a ssd.

#

which is its own topic :)

clever sluice
#

Ssd is faster but more money correct?

foggy hazel
#

yes

clever sluice
#

Hm

foggy hazel
#

1tb ssd is about 100usd

clever sluice
#

I see a lot of people get a 500 ssd for system and stuff and use a 1 tb hdd for games

foggy hazel
#

aye

clever sluice
#

Is that smart ?

foggy hazel
#

its practical

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because it gives you the freedom to choose

clever sluice
#

Yea and apparently if I would do that my startup time would be fast but my games load time would be decent which is fine with me

foggy hazel
#

its a bit more complicated than that, but close enough for now :)

clever sluice
#

😄 ok

foggy hazel
#

and just so you are aware.

#

there are no stupid questions, only silly answers

clever sluice
#

Hm well that’s good to know lol since I feel like I’ve just asked a ton of stupid questions

foggy hazel
#

they are not stupid.

#

you want to know the answers = not stupid.

clever sluice
#

Tru, thank you

foggy hazel
#

just because they might be trivial for me to answers, does not mean they are stupid questions.

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there are plenty of things in other areas that i dont know jack about :)

#

you are very welcome :)

#

i have a list that i am putting together for you, and i am getting to the monitor part now

clever sluice
#

Ok great

foggy hazel
#

sidenote: your TV, what model is that @clever sluice ?

clever sluice
#

Samsung

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That’s all I know about it . Oh and it’s a smart tv

foggy hazel
#

there should be a model number on the bezel of it somewhere

#

@clever sluice how firm is your budget?

clever sluice
#

Pretty firm . I’m only 15 and I don’t have a job anymore since

foggy hazel
#

fair

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and it was 1520 usd @clever sluice ?

clever sluice
#

It was a hold on n

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@foggy hazel yea it was a 1,518 USD budget

foggy hazel
#

okay

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and just to make 100% certain that i dont misunderstand something.

#

that is for the machine + monitor

#

but without the cpu itself?

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(because you already have the cpu)

clever sluice
#

Yes sir

foggy hazel
#

good

#

next question

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do you have a usb stick (8+ gigs)?

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because you will need one for the installation of windows.

clever sluice
#

No

foggy hazel
#

any brothers/sisters that might have one you could borrow for a day?

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or your parents for that sake

clever sluice
#

Oh wait just like a usb stick

foggy hazel
#

yes

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just a random 8+ gig usb stick that is not being used for anything else.

vague crystal
#

yeah, you also need a pc to put windows installer on the usb stick. but i just got here so im not sure if you already have one

clever sluice
#

Yea I have that

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My mom has a laptop

foggy hazel
#

so that part is solved. good

clever sluice
#

Sweet

foggy hazel
#

okay

#

so, currently i am having a debate about what kind of monitor you would want

#

because depending on that, your GPU goes up/down a model

#

related question: you used to playing on a pc at all?

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as in, did you go to friends houses and play etc?

clever sluice
#

No, I don’t have a lot of experience with gaming on pc

foggy hazel
#

(i am asking to get a feel for the requirements you might have for the monitor)

#

hm

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nope. not going to work "right"

#

so, this si the current suggestion @clever sluice

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which is 1450-ish budget wise

clever sluice
#

Ok I’ll look

foggy hazel
#

the difference between that list and the others you have linked so far is this:

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ive asked what you actually needed and wanted

#

and tried to find parts that actually fit that.

deep skiff
#

why x570 instead of a board like the b450 tuf pro or pro carbon?

foggy hazel
#

because that board is 4 bucks more than the carbon

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tuf pro doesnt have wifi

deep skiff
#

o ic

cursive wharf
#

@timber trench Cheap tempered glass case is $45 or so. A five pack of RGB fans is $37. Totalling about the same price as the case itself and not including the extra fans. For RAM you're spending the same amount that'd get you 2x8gb 3200 CL14 or 3600 CL16. SSD is overpriced for what it is. Sure it's cheaper then Samsung, but that doesnt mean it isnt overpriced

deep skiff
#

didnt read the convo yet lol

foggy hazel
#

@cursive wharf which part are you talking about

#

part list*

clever sluice
#

@foggy hazel oh ok

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And sorry I had to do something

cursive wharf
#

From Moonlight from a little while ago

foggy hazel
#

nothing to be sorry about @clever sluice

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there is no rush :)

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ah @cursive wharf :)

cursive wharf
#

about 2.5 hours ago I think

clever sluice
#

Sick and I subtracted the cpu cost and it’s perfect . One thing I’m worried about is taxes

foggy hazel
#

also @clever sluice every single other list is either missing something or something doesnt have a price.

clever sluice
#

How much would it boost my price is what I’m scared about

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@foggy hazel that is true

foggy hazel
#

price should be what you see there

#

but, i am not a US resident, so i dont know your local state rules all that well

clever sluice
#

Oh ok

foggy hazel
#

the 1446 you seen in the list @clever sluice is with the CPU subtracted.

cursive wharf
#

@loud apex pfp from the anime Darker then Black. It's fairly okay. Not many people like the ending nor does it do a good job at explaining some details that're kinda important

foggy hazel
#

wrong chat @cursive wharf ?

cursive wharf
#

nah, another message from many hours ago

foggy hazel
#

or just old as all ?

clever sluice
#

@foggy hazel yes that’s great 😃

foggy hazel
#

aye

clever sluice
#

Just pasted link so I can view it again ^

foggy hazel
#

:)

vague crystal
#

x570 mobo is not nedded, but its good for future upgrades

foggy hazel
#

when the other option is a 150usd board, paying the 4usd extra for all the other things that the 570 board brings, is imo the only sane choice. @vague crystal

vague crystal
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yeah

foggy hazel
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also, for a machine that is intended to last a good long time, and be upgraded in the future? it all adds up in favour of the 570

upper condor
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P400A

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@little osprey

buoyant flame
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Or cooler master h500

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Little more than 100 tho

warped moat
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The meshify c is good as well

buoyant flame
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With added fans it is

little osprey
wide sparrow
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Sure is

foggy hazel
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it is.

wide sparrow
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Just expensive

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I was going to buy that

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But 280

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was 270 before

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Sad prices are slowly rising

foggy hazel
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just the brand price that is going up @wide sparrow

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sabrent was cheap in the start

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because it was unknown and turned out to be a good brand/series

wide sparrow
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What a shame

little osprey
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What's the point of a heatsink of you know?

foggy hazel
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remove heat from the chips

worn estuary
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Anybody know anything about enermax stuff?

cursive wharf
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@foggy hazel idk, feel like Sabrent mostly just got hit with the NAND price rise. It's not like they were always the best for the price even before the price rise

foggy hazel
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they have ridden their reddit reputation for a long time now @cursive wharf

cursive wharf
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Oh wow, to remove the reddit rep, impressive

wind leaf
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can someone do a pc part picker for a $700-$800 build? potentially streaming fortnite. (peripherals included) (1660ti or 2060KO preferred)

wary geode
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Ok I’ll give try

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Any preferred amount of storage?

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@wind leaf

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Want rgb tempered glass?

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Anything like that

wind leaf
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nothing out of the ordinary

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just something to get the job done

wary geode
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Ok got it

wind leaf
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nothing too extra

wary geode
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Give me some time because I’m in a class zoom

wind leaf
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okay.

stoic island
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Heres my take on it

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@wind leaf you need wifi or no?

wary geode
stoic island
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Duck, mouse and keyboard too

wary geode
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Here’s one you cam get a power supply for like 30 or 40 like I did 80+ bronze

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There’s some things you can get it’s just a base line one for now

icy plume
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1111 did you really choose a keyboard with blue switches?

wary geode
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@wind leaf

stoic island
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its cheap lol

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I'll get some other cheap like 30$ keyboard in there if you want

icy plume
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ik it's cheap, but blue switches are a terrible idea for any streamer

stoic island
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alright

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Ima change some things around

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kinda just dumped money on ssd bc I don't like dealing with the ssd market

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things change around so quickly

deep skiff
stoic island
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disgusting team ram

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anyways

icy plume
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i have teamgroup ram you absolute nerd

stoic island
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I have it too

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in my drawer

deep skiff
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hey their b die is top notch

stoic island
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but thats not their b die

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thats their trash stuff

icy plume
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idk what i have and idrc, it works fine and dandy

deep skiff
stoic island
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It didn't work well for me

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I'd rather go like oloy than team

deep skiff
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bruh that power ranger ram is way worse

icy plume
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^

stoic island
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get some ripjaw v for the same price at least

deep skiff
stoic island
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I am much happier

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that works

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except not so great perphials

deep skiff
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yeah well it has a 2060 so be quiet

stoic island
lime forge
deep skiff
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mcbruh that's $60 over budget smh my head @stoic island

stoic island
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I got a better mobo in there but meh

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mobo doesn't matter that much

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2 m.2 slots and better soundchips don't matter as much in a build like that

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@wind leaf you got headphones or speakers?

deep skiff
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what part of the $800 budget dont u get :v

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ree

stoic island
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I'm not being sarcastic

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it actually doesn't really matter

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but I just want it in ma list

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bc

wary geode
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Ah crap I forgot about the peripherals sorry my bad didn’t read clearly

wind leaf
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my wifi was acting up sorry

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the only thing about that list is the cpu isn’t really what i thought it would be

wary geode
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If I were Nike you can get some good stuff used as peripherals

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Like you can get a cherry mx blue used for like 30 or 40

wind leaf
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and can’t i just go with an ssd instead of getting a hdd

wary geode
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The Ryzen 1600 af

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Is the best budget cpu

wind leaf
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ryzen 5 2600 is good too

wary geode
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It is the Ryzen 5 2600

wind leaf
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it is?

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i’m new to this

stoic island
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1600af is basically the 2600

wary geode
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Performs exactly the same as it

stoic island
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1600af uses the same process and fab as the 2600

wind leaf
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but which one will last longer

stoic island
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the same

wary geode
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It’s just soooo much better because it’s cheaper

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^what he said

wind leaf
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i can upgrade after a few years too right

wary geode
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Yep

wind leaf
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this used to be the old list

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BmqjJb

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oops

stoic island
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hmm

wind leaf
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but i didn’t buy the parts in time

wary geode
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Here lemme try another one since I have a better view of what you want

foggy hazel
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welcome back @wind leaf

wind leaf
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@foggy hazel thanks

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it’s been a while