#building-and-recc-chat

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deep skiff
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yea 5400 are usually for NAS/home drives

celest horizon
rustic yew
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is pairing a ryzen 7 3700x with a aio cooler and a gt 1030 a bottleneck? 🤔

teal bison
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I feel like I'm being whooshed right now but I cant tell. The emoji doesnt help

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Either I'm becoming a boomer or you dont know your gpus

tepid basalt
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@rustic yew depends on what r u gonna do

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here I see people sell workstations with r9 + 1050ti all the time

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my experience with workstation is quite limited so I can't tell if that would cause bottleneck or what

cedar portal
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depends on the workstation

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personally i would never put a 1030 in anything as it's only slightly better than intel integrated

teal bison
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Oh yeah wasnt thinking about workstations

maiden pasture
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Anyone mind helping me with my PC?

tepid basalt
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just ask

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we can't help without knowing what the problem is

rich dragon
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@maiden pasture ☝️

maiden pasture
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It's DRAM light. I just finished putting together the parts for my PC and DRAM light is on. Also CPU cooler stops spinning after a second.

tepid basalt
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by light u mean debug led or the rgb?

maiden pasture
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Debug

tepid basalt
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have u tried changing ram slot yet?

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and cleaning the rams?

maiden pasture
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I haven't tried changing ram slots yet but I have tried each ram stick individually and the DRAM debug light still comes on.

tepid basalt
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then try changing ram slots

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your main has 4 slots or 2?

maiden pasture
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Four slots.

tepid basalt
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then try the other 2

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but still, if you have the condition to test your ram on another system it would be better

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but the possibility of both your rams fail is kinda low so if changing ram slots doesn't help

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I think there's something wrong with your mobo

maiden pasture
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Alrighty. I'll be back in a few moments with results.

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So same results as before. DRAM debug light is on and CPU cooler is not spinning.

tepid basalt
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so like I said

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I bet your motherboard ram slots are at fault

maiden pasture
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Alrighty. Guess I'll look for a new mobo then. Thank you.

tepid basalt
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if you wanna be sure, borrow a ram from someone and try it on the mother board again

maiden pasture
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I'll see if I can.

chilly hemlock
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So I don't know tons about pcs, but I game a ton and have 2.5k to spend on just the pc alone and was wondering if anyone could put together a part list with an Intel processor and 4TB of storage

warped moat
tepid basalt
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I think you should just bring those money to microcenter

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prob gonna get a nice custom water-cooling case

little osprey
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id spend a little extra and get an aio instead of a fan for 80

floral tree
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I got my build parts coming soon. Im super excited

sullen spoke
cyan plaza
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can someone suggest to me a 3 monitor stand for Asus VP248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor

i have no clue on those things 😅

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was thinking about this

tranquil dust
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anyone know the best pc you can get for $200 that can run most games

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@cyan plaza thats a good one id go with it

cyan plaza
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well all those stands are good but some of them the reviews says otherwise

cedar portal
knotty quiver
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Anybody here that can help me with my build

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I've encountered a problem

analog hearth
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anybody

viral ore
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anybody

icy plume
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Help! I need somebody

cyan plaza
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not just anybody?

icy plume
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Indeed

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I need someone

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Heeeelp!

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When I was youn-

cyan plaza
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can't help you sorry but i did notice when looking at parts how many sites really need to update there pages...

analog hearth
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Anybody here that can help me with my build
I can't tell if that's a question

viral ore
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yes

analog hearth
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I mean I can tell without a question mark

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but might wanna start the sentence with "is there anybody"

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include one or the other or both would help me

viral ore
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and might wanna just explain your problem

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instead of looking for people

analog hearth
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yep

viral ore
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because yes, there are people here lmao

analog hearth
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when they don't respond 😍

viral ore
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they might need an @

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but they didnt ask for one

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sooooo

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i guess we weight

analog hearth
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weight

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bro

viral ore
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yep

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weight

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weighting in line

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weighting for the bus

analog hearth
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mmmm okay

viral ore
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big brain time

tawny halo
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brooooo

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i told my mother to order the parts last month for her PC, the price has lifted by 50$ total

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yikes

analog hearth
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that's why you buy soon

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prices rise

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or they can go lower

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just gamble

tawny halo
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they havent lower since the virus

analog hearth
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I mean, there are two scenarios that either make prices rise or fall

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actually

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nvm

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just thought about it

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prices should rise

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because there is actually more demand now than there was a month ago and supply is getting lower due to lack of hours being worked in facilities where tech is being made

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same with any other industry, too

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so, prices are going to rise. might wanna buy ASAP until prices are just too high. then you'd have to wait

violet lichen
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Can someone make a parts list for a cheap itx 1080p 75hz pc

analog hearth
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actually

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no

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because

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if you take the time to try to make a parts list yourself, you'll learn more about your system and how to put together a system

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basically, you'll learn more computational reasoning by putting the list together yourself than if you were to have somebody do it for you

violet lichen
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Ok thanks for the advice

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I'll come back so you can revise it

analog hearth
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yee coming back and asking if the build is good is never a bad idea :)

violet lichen
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Actually I'm changing the monitor to 1080p 144hz

analog hearth
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I would do the same

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at least with that GPU

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but if it were my build, I'd get a bit more budget-oriented 1440p high refresh rate monitor and get a beefier GPU

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if you go that route, upgrade the PSU as well

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and definitely get more storage

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you won't be able to hold that many games with just 256GB

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but everything else looks fine

violet lichen
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I have an external 1TB already so I didn't include it

analog hearth
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is it an SSD?

cyan plaza
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you cans till add the 1tb go to gears and click already purchase this can help avoid less confusion on why just 256GB 😛

analog hearth
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HDD?

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I wouldn't use it if it's a hard drive. I've ran into some slight problems using a 5400rpm drive going across some games' worlds real fast lol

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Forza once game me a bandwidth popup lol

cyan plaza
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haha 😂

analog hearth
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textures loaded slowly, too

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it was a funny experience lmao

violet lichen
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It's a ssd

analog hearth
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oh okay you're probably fine then

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I'd imagine there shouldn't be that much of a bottleneck via USB

cyan plaza
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ya you want at lest 7200RPM for games 😛

violet lichen
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Updated the monitor gpu and psu

analog hearth
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looks good to me

cyan plaza
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maybe one day companies could add display port as a option...

📎 input.JPG
violet lichen
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Wow not even in connectors

gaunt zinc
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Man in Meeting Room: Plug it into one of those HDTVMI Connecters or w/e, what is it called? A port? No no what are you stupid.. it's a connector!

cyan plaza
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dang lost internet so sorry if it was posted more then once

upper condor
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@violet lichen pssshhh who needs displayport

cyan plaza
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me because gpu only come with 3 hdmi and 3 display

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for some reason it ignores 6 hdmi and there are 6 display versions for monitor walls

wispy matrix
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@cyan plaza did you try Newegg

cyan plaza
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ya it's the only place i found my screen 😂

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@wispy matrix

upper condor
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@cyan plaza did the monitor not have dp with it

cyan plaza
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ya it did and with it being mountable

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it's stuff like this should i put it like this to get all 3 options? because yes has less then 50 but 100m by 100m has more

📎 vesa.JPG
foggy hazel
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@cyan plaza what is it your are trying to find?

cyan plaza
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not really find but just a monitor 1920x1080 it has 1 hdmi and 1 DP with mounting just really confusing on how vesa compatible category works

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so far this is everything

foggy hazel
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@cyan plaza was it you with the church setup?

cyan plaza
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ya

foggy hazel
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i thought we solved your questions/problem/challenge already?

cyan plaza
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ya it was but slightly changes some stuff and still looking around still have 2 weeks about to keep searching before basically a deadline

frozen garnet
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Is this the spot to find help on computer builds?

cyan plaza
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yap

foggy hazel
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@cyan plaza the build you linked above seems to be a reversion back to the start of the process thou

frozen garnet
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I'm a novice about every 6-8 years I build a new one but by the time I build a new one I'm so out of date and don't know what I'm doing is there someone willing to help me find the right pieces for new computer?

foggy hazel
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@frozen garnet just post your budget and what you want to be able to do

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and we can start talking about it :)

frozen garnet
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@foggy hazel is it ok to PM/DM you?

foggy hazel
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@frozen garnet if you are more comfortable with that, go ahead :)

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@cyan plaza lets just quickly run down your list :)

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paste: not needed, included on with the cpu

cyan plaza
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i want the Fractal Design Define C ATX Mid Tower Case 😐 but no cd drive, I'm actually asking if we can just use USB version so it's in my favorites as for

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wait i don't think i can use VisionTek Radeon HD 7750 2 GB Video Card anyways because it's converts from hdmi to Ethernet to the projectors, only hdmi can support that and not DisplayPort, the converting

foggy hazel
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psu: way overpriced and overspec for what you need

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and you would not technically see much of a benefit (if at all) from the 1tb nvme

cyan plaza
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i also don't want to confuse people if others show up having 2-3 storages 1 for ssd for programs and windows 10 while rest for pictures, slides, animations, audio recordings

i'm trying to find the line between cost and ease of access

foggy hazel
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fair

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re: monitors: have a serious look at what Dell offers

lime forge
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i have this one

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it was on sale for $99 once

cyan plaza
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maybe 512 nvme with the current hdd, personably i would so love to clone the drives

lime forge
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fantastic deal

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not sure if it will go down again

cyan plaza
lime forge
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$140 is a bit expensive for that

cyan plaza
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o

lime forge
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i paid less for my 27" 75hz 1080p one

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with thinner bezels

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find something sold by Newegg for true pricing

cyan plaza
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it's because if i go hdmi ill have to buy 3 converters from display to hdmi if i can? unless it's only one way like hdmi to display

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@broken seal what is that picture from?

broken seal
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I dont know, good question

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heh

lime forge
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ooooof

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sorry to bother you again

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😅

broken seal
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its cool

cyan plaza
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o wait lol

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didn't know there was 2 know i know...

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sorry as well

lime forge
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anyways i got that screenshot from the link to the monitor you posted

cyan plaza
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o yours is different if thats top one

lime forge
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weird

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$140 is still a lot imo

cyan plaza
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ya don't every ask me to find better pricing then XD

dreamy flame
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What should I know before buying a WiFi card

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?

cyan plaza
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😐 at lest from my experience depending on the year it came out, don't expect the software that it comes with to work, only the drivers are compatible like the Archer T9E V1 from https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/pci-adapter/archer-t9e/ mine worked on windows 7 and completely stopped working on windows 10, i don't remember if i tried compatible mode. but thats my advice as well it supports
Operating System Supports Windows 8.1/8/7/XP 32/64bit. and drivers for windows 7 and 10

Archer T9E | AC1900 Wireless Dual Band PCI Express Adapter | TP-Link

AC1900 Wireless Dual Band PCI Express Adapter

obtuse umbra
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My motherboard came with this cd

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What's it for?

tranquil dust
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drivers

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but it's better to download them from the actual website

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more recent that way

obtuse umbra
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Alright

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I dont have an optical drive on my build anyways

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Thanks

tranquil dust
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np

sullen spoke
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ye you don't need the disk

buoyant flame
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I can confirm the disk is not needed

radiant eagle
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Hello everyone

teal bison
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Hi

tulip socket
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hello everyone. any savvy builders in here who can help me with an upgrade issue?

sudden turret
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what's up @tulip socket

meager relic
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Hi, I need of assistance, I'm going to be posting links in here, if in allowed to show my future build, I would like to know if there's a better one to get rather the one I linked.

lime forge
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links are allowed so long as they are not bad

meager relic
sudden turret
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yeah those links are bad

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we don't speak of ||amazon|| here.

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kidding 🙂

meager relic
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.....wow

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Lol

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Ltnh box, missed your humor

sudden turret
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I thought you was the same eviltwisted.

meager relic
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The one and only

sudden turret
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is that mobo board rated as ryzen 3000 ready

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I'd get higher mhz ram honestly.

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3200 at min

meager relic
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Which would you prefer?

sudden turret
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evrything else looks ok

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as long as the mobo doesn't need a bios update to accept the r5 3600

meager relic
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This is why I come here, to seek wisdom from the all kmowings..... How am I supposed to know that?!

sudden turret
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it'll tell you

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"ryzen 3000 ready"

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Supports AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen

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so good to go

meager relic
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Can I get a link for that? Please sir.

sudden turret
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that was the one you linkgd

meager relic
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I meant a mobo

foggy hazel
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that is a decent enough mainboard @meager relic

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you might want to look for ram that is 3600 instead of the 2666 you have linked above

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also, the 970 evo is generally conisdered fairly overpriced for what you get

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also, you are aware that that GPU is not available right?

cursive wharf
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Also note that the 1650 Super and 1660 and almost the same perf but the 1650S is much cheaper

chilly hemlock
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Anyone know how long until new gpus and cpus come out?

glass condor
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Soon™️

chilly hemlock
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Alright

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Should I wait until then to build a pc?

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That is if its like a month or 2

wise wharf
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Big Navi probably not gonna be out until September or later. Though I also heard something about Holiday 2020. Not sure about Nvidia and the 3000 series though.

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And without directly mentioning anything there could be delays on all of this due to current events. That's more speculation than anything though.

chilly hemlock
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Not gonna wait that long

cyan plaza
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@sudden turret

sharp perch
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what is better than a 1080ti

upper condor
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2080ti

buoyant flame
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Stonks

outer locust
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recommend a better part?

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are they good?

tepid basalt
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i5 9400f + 1660 super + 8gb ram

outer locust
tepid basalt
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looking good

analog hearth
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I bet you could get more for less if you went with a 512GB SSD and a 1TB hard drive

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then you'll have 1.5TB of storage for possibly less

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more value in the system imo

tepid basalt
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but idk about the psu

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dont' think 550w enough for a rx5700xt

celest horizon
tepid basalt
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but it's too pricy

analog hearth
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it would but wouldn't you want more storage for potentially less?

celest horizon
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$115 for 1TB seems pretty good when it's all mid-tier nvme.

analog hearth
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that too though

tepid basalt
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I don't think it would make much difference

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unless he's like hardcore video editor

celest horizon
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550W is enough - but only because the bitfenix formula gold is a solid unit - There are plenty of junk 550w units out there, always best to decide on a per-unit basis.

outer locust
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yeah im in another discord server, specifically techsource's and they recommend those parts over cx 650 and the crucial nvme

tepid basalt
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then it's kinda a mystery to me how vga manufacturers calculate their recommended wattage

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I'm confused

outer locust
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"Without diving into specifics, QLC (Quad Level Cell) is cheaper to manufacture than TLC (Triple Level Cell), with SLC (Single Level Cell) being very expensive for consumer storage requirements. QLC is also much slower and less durable to constant writing than TLC (hence the difference in cost), but QLC NVMe SSDs like Intel's 660p has SLC cache on which is super fast. Combining the QLC and SLC can match or exceed the speed of TLC drives.

In my humble opinion, NVMe QLC drives with SLC cache shouldn't be used for OS drives due to the constant writing of files via updates, logs, and general OS I/O, and how they get slower when they start getting full and to long constant writes. I would only use a QLC drive for a program storage drive. I would want my OS on a TLC drive.
Copied from reddit"

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he said this

tepid basalt
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don't worry too much about qlc and tlc

outer locust
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well the mx500 is better than the nvme one

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basically what he said

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because it will last me longer and is better

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it doesn't slow down as fast

tepid basalt
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I don't think ssd has a thing called "slow down" with time?

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the cell just simply die?

outer locust
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or as its filling up

teal bison
celest horizon
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For the reasons above - I probably wouldn't ever recommend the smaller nvme QLC drives for boot + storage - e.g. a 1TB intel 660p has about 72 GB of dynaic SLC cache when empty

tepid basalt
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and the speed goes down when the capacity is filled

celest horizon
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The drive won't be able to sustain a max write speed for as long as it fills up.

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e.g. you'll have ~36GB of SLC cache available at 500GB / 1TB full

outer locust
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so is the build all good then?

tepid basalt
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yeah

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so envious

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the price is so good

buoyant flame
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I didn't help you before but I'm pretty sure that it was established that the tomahawk max isn't a great board

tepid basalt
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how so?

buoyant flame
proud estuary
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first time on this site so hope someone can help. I just purchased a MB, RAM & CPU from Newegg and I cannot get any video when I power it up. Parts are: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series Model F4-3400C16D-16GVK, Intel i5-9600K, ASUS Prime Z390-P. Have tried contacting ASUS but they are not responding to my email.

wide sparrow
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Oh boy

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something might be dead

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Wait for someone here that can REALLY help. I'm a PC beginner

tepid basalt
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@buoyant flame I don't see lack of M.2 is a problem. MSI already has the b450m mortar max if you want 2 m.2 already.

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and what board at $120 has wifi?

sullen spoke
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Are the lights/fans turning on in the pc

cursive wharf
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@tepid basalt find me a Mortar max at $95 I guess? Realistically should be less due to a $95 board having two M2 slots (same) and a better sound chip, more SATA ports, and a more flexible M2 loadout (Mortar's M2_2 only supports NVMe while b450m Asus TUF Pro Gaming's M2_2 supports both NVMe and SATA), also the second x16 slot will be disabled on M2_2 use for Mortar unlike TUF Pro.
As for which $120 board has WiFi, better sound chip, better network chip, etc at $120 that'd be the Aorus Pro WiFi

tepid basalt
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That's 130 board

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And the tomahawk max is 112

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  • 0 bios flashback
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  • not out of the box 3rd gen compatible iirc
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It's your money
Your choice

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I'll be fine with the tomahawk max

foggy hazel
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@tepid basalt any board that has not been forgotten in the back of a warehouse, should have 3rd gen support by now

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its been 9+ months since the launch now

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and the "problem" with the tomehawk is that you are paying for features that you 99.999% wont get any actual use from.

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@tepid basalt as @cursive wharf tried to tell you, the Aorus Pro Wifi is indeed a 120 usd board

cursive wharf
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$128 vs $120 for ATX version barely makes a difference anyways. 99.999% of people can spend the extra $8 on the mobo because it barely makes a difference in terms of budget. Unless you're scraping the bottom of the barrel, but then you wouldnt choose a Tomahawk in that place anyways

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So it is very much in the same price bracket, but meh

tepid basalt
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so it's regional price

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in my place the tomahawk is $22 apart from the b450 aorus

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i'd wait for the gaming pro carbon max

foggy hazel
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@tepid basalt not a critique, but please remember, we cannot read your mind :) So, if you dont tell us you are not US based, we cannot know :)

tepid basalt
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yeah

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figured

timber trench
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Anything I should change to save money on the ones I haven’t purchased yet?

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Advice would be appreciated

tepid basalt
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what's your purpose?

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anyway, my suggestion is to drop that mobo + wifi card

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you'll save money

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you can shave off a little bit by going with a 550w psu and a lower speed ram if you want

cursive wharf
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@timber trench RAM is absurdly overpriced. Samsung b-die memory is easily in that price range which is the best RAM you can get for Ryzen. Samsung NVMe is overpriced. GPU is overpriced. Case is overpriced and meh in airflow iirc. Case fans are overpriced. CXM has coil whine, go for CX non M.

wispy matrix
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700 budget

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Nvm I will try again

wispy matrix
buoyant flame
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There's a lot of room for improvement in that list beast

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This should be better

timber trench
cerulean burrow
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Does anyone have experience with the cable mod vertical GPU adapter? I saw it on a Jayz Twocents video and am kind interested.

lime forge
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Not that specific one, but ive vertical mounted before

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Just know that it takes up all your PCIE slots

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and you have to have i think 7 slots, it takes up all of them

little osprey
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question, is it better to do a 2 in 1 gaming/stream pc that two separate pcs?

sullen spoke
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for best quality a dual pc setup with a capture card is best, but expensive

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only the streamers that make money really use it, otherwise I'd just get a nvidia gpu and use the nvenc encoder

little osprey
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I was rewatching Bitwit's Two Pc's in one chassie video and it made me interested but ik that is very expensive to build that

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since i want to do streaming as a hobby, and computer building as my career

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computer hardware engineering is my career of choice since i like to get my hands worked up and i like having gaming pc one day....

wide sparrow
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@wary geode ONE intake rgb fan in the back and two more exhaust ones on the top

wary geode
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Yeah I’m waiting for them to come and what way does it face for the exhaust

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Logo facing the top or down

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Anyone know rgb lights for the pc for cheap

wide sparrow
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Fans?

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strips?

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@wary geode

wary geode
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Si

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Strips

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I wanna get the lianli rgb cables but that’s for the future

outer locust
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so, is this good?

icy plume
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never heard of a bitfenix PSU

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also i don't think 3600mhz ram is stable on b450, so perhaps consider 3200

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other than those i think it looks good, but i recommend a second opinion

stoic island
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@icy plume bitfenix whisper 650w/750w is a very good PSU, it's the one hei likes and uses, tier A+, better than RMx.

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But the formula gold 550w aparently has GPU shutdown issues

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According to the tierlist

icy plume
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ah

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then i'd definitely recommend another

buoyant flame
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Nothing wrong with 3600mhz ram on a b450

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I'm running that right now perfectly fine

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That board however is not the best

icy plume
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tomahawks aren't great

buoyant flame
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Time to share it again...

icy plume
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i'm not an expert but i use an ASUS Prime B450M-A and i wouldn't be against one

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^

sullen spoke
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lol

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how many times are we going to bring up that message

buoyant flame
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Once more evidently

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Everyone wants that board rn for no apparent reason when it is not great at all for the price

icy plume
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they just don't know lol

buoyant flame
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Ik but like multiple people have told them multiple times so... idk what to say

icy plume
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nobody pays attention and usually thinks it won't be as big a problem as it turns out to be

buoyant flame
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Facts

errant berry
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so ive heard that its not safe to buy windows 10 from websites like amazon, b&h, etc, but i save ab 30 from the total. Is it worth the risk to not buy it from microsoft?

foggy hazel
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@errant berry do elaborate

errant berry
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like im building a pc, and im determining where to buy the parts

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but ive had someone tell me not to buy windows 10 from places like amazon bc the keys can be messed up\

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and it wont be refunded

foggy hazel
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your question, on the surface is simple

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if you buy original parts from amazon itself or any legit retailer

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there will not be a problem

errant berry
#

ok

foggy hazel
#

however, amazon is a market place

errant berry
#

thanks, he was ab to push me away but when i saw that it was 140 on microsoft, i didnt want to go for it

#

is b&h ok?

foggy hazel
#

aye, that it is

errant berry
#

or newegg

foggy hazel
#

sure

#

i am thinking of "bob and his alligators IT key shop"

errant berry
#

huh

foggy hazel
#

amazon has some ... interesting ... companies in their market place

errant berry
#

agreed

foggy hazel
#

so, the take away is this: do your research

#

and use your brain :)

errant berry
#

thanks for the helpaam_sanic

foggy hazel
#

you are very welcome, enjoy the build when you have it up and running :)

errant berry
#

does anyone have a website i can compare pc builds for fps in games?

lime forge
#

all you really need to do is compare the graphics card

#

assuming the two builds have similar cpus

errant berry
#

they actually have the exact same lol

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only issue is one of the gpus is a radeon rx 5700 xt and i know it was having issues with its drivers

#

is that still happening rn?

lime forge
#

not sure

errant berry
#

ill look into it, thanks for the help

errant berry
#

are we allowed to post links to our builds?

buoyant flame
#

Yes

errant berry
#

cool

buoyant flame
#

Is that what you currently have or what you want to buy?

errant berry
#

what i want to buy

#

but im currently lookin to change the ssd

#

do i have to get desktop for the hdd or can i do portable

buoyant flame
#

I dont quite understand your question

errant berry
#

like it says there are two types of hdd's

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portable and desktop

#

and the portable ones are more compact and cheaper

#

but do i have to do desktop

buoyant flame
#

A portable hdd might be referring to an external hard drive that plugs in via USB

#

Do you think you could show me a pic of the two options?

errant berry
#

yea

buoyant flame
#

Ok

foggy hazel
#

@errant berry you have not bought any parts yet?

errant berry
#

yea

buoyant flame
#

Oh good naeds here😂 here comes the real help

errant berry
#

lol

foggy hazel
#

is there any special reason for the AIO @errant berry ?

errant berry
#

the what

foggy hazel
#

the water cooling

errant berry
#

oh

buoyant flame
#

The water cooler

errant berry
#

yea to overclock

#

im not really smart when it comes to pc's so thanks for the help

foggy hazel
#

you are aware that IF you invested that money in a better CPU instead, you would end up with a faster machine

errant berry
#

well

#

any recommendations

#

lol

#

also, my budget is around 1200

foggy hazel
#

aye, plenty of them :)

#

you got any plan to stream?

errant berry
#

no, maybe use vr but probably not

foggy hazel
#

ok

#

does it have to be "that" specific case?

errant berry
#

not really

#

i just enjoy rgb

foggy hazel
#

we can keep that case, it is your choice :)

errant berry
#

im up for whatever can keep it cheaper lol

#

would an i5-9600k be better for the cpu

foggy hazel
#

no

errant berry
#

ok

lyric thistle
#

it's not hyperthreaded 👀

errant berry
#

whats that

cursive wharf
#

The "not so accurate but kinda works" explanation would be "virtual cores"

errant berry
#

gotcha

foggy hazel
#

also, you mentioned something about desktop / portable hdd (and then i came in and started asking questions) before you got around to finding the pictures to show @buoyant flame

errant berry
#

oh yea

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was figuring out how to snip it lol

buoyant flame
#

Ya

lyric thistle
#

shift+Windows+S

errant berry
#

i got it now

buoyant flame
#

Ok

errant berry
#

how do i save the snip

#

lol

#

no dont answer that

#

i got it

foggy hazel
#

you dont have to snip stuff like that, just throw in the link @errant berry

cursive wharf
#

I mean there is also always just posting the link too

errant berry
#

oh yea

#

well

#

too late

cursive wharf
#

damn it Naed, beating me to it

foggy hazel
#

sorry (totally not sorry)

errant berry
#

wrong one

lyric thistle
#

I'd prefer the freedom of choosing the exact drive I use, over buying an external drive

errant berry
#

one says desktop while the other says portable and i was wondering if i could use either

foggy hazel
#

that is an external drive, meaning, it is in an enclosure [edit: enclosure]

errant berry
#

yea

cursive wharf
#

I'd generally avoid external drives except when absolutely needed

errant berry
#

so just do an ssd

buoyant flame
#

For sure

cursive wharf
#

due to perf of drive decreasing majorly

errant berry
#

yea

cursive wharf
#

Also internal is generally cheaper

errant berry
#

is 1tb ssd enough?

foggy hazel
#

aye, generally it is

#

you can always pair it with a normal hdd

buoyant flame
#

Well we got all the techies in here (naed and hei) so I think I can head out and get some sleep its super late for me

errant berry
#

lol good night

foggy hazel
#

have a good one @buoyant flame

buoyant flame
#

Hope you get it figured out

#

You as well naed

errant berry
#

thanks

cursive wharf
#

Kinda depends on how much storage you want to use. A 512gb SSD + 2tb HDD is about $110, same price as a 1tb SSD

lyric thistle
#

you can take any internal drive you want and put it into a cheap generic external enclosure

errant berry
foggy hazel
#

@errant berry is there a specific reason for the manually added OS ?

cursive wharf
#

@buoyant flame enjoy thy night

errant berry
#

just wanted to add it to the price

buoyant flame
#

Thx you too. If its night for you anyway

cursive wharf
#

It is so yee

errant berry
#

same

buoyant flame
#

Lol nice

foggy hazel
#

reason i ask is that there are cheaper alternatives

cursive wharf
#

Like easily as cheap as $5 - $15

errant berry
#

but

#

most of them could be scams

#

or as i have read

#

so i dont want to risk it

foggy hazel
#

if you go out of your way to find one that is super sketchy, yes

cursive wharf
#

The cheapest ones maybe, at the $5 or less range. But when getting to the $15 range I don't recall hearing about scams as they are from more legitimate places

foggy hazel
#

as in, if you find one that is also trying to sell you a bridge? then yes, i would not choose that seller.

errant berry
#

yea lol

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i may look around for one thats cheaper, but im not expecting to find it

#

i dont want to waste my money

foggy hazel
#

but as Hei said, 10-20 range, you would be the first i have heard of having a problem

errant berry
#

if you dont mind me asking, did you buy it the same price?

#

or did you buy it off microsoft

cursive wharf
#

Any rule about linking I guess what'd be grey zone market places? Probs going to link it here for Gabe, should be $15 if I can find it

foggy hazel
#

i work with IT in general, so i have a VLM for my cluster of machines

errant berry
#

oh

foggy hazel
#

vlm = volume key

#

But Hei should be able to find something for you

errant berry
#

yea im lookin at amazon rn

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but i cant buy it rn so

foggy hazel
still roostBOT
#
Gabe#0420 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

tranquil dust
#

L

errant berry
#

forgot lol

cursive wharf
#

F

errant berry
#

but i was gonna say that a great build

foggy hazel
#

its a "wee" bit faster than what you looked at before

errant berry
#

with some bad word usage

#

and somehow, id buy most of the parts of newegg

#

wild

foggy hazel
#

and that is just random @errant berry

#

the vendor part

cursive wharf
#

As per usual with me and complaining, case has closed off front panel

foggy hazel
#

its his RGB preference etc etc

errant berry
#

yea

foggy hazel
#

so unless you have a suggestion on that front Hei?

cursive wharf
#

Well, cheaper case + RGB fan pack?

foggy hazel
#

because i know just about nothing about RGB cases

errant berry
foggy hazel
#

have at it :)

cursive wharf
#

upHere or Edzy supply 5 packs for like $35

errant berry
#

also, it says that under the specs

foggy hazel
#

and you can safely ignore those @errant berry

errant berry
#

ok

#

i dont mind going cheaper on the case, id just like a side for tempered glass and some rgb

#

like a fan or 2

foggy hazel
#

@cursive wharf there is 94-ish usd for case + potential fans

cursive wharf
errant berry
#

would i just need the one fan?

cursive wharf
#

could probably add cheap air cooler for lower noise

foggy hazel
#

its a 5 pack

errant berry
#

hold on

#

how

cursive wharf
#

most likely due to it being a company that has close ties to the company that makes them, or is the company/sister company that makes them. Companies like Corsair gets these fans from companies like upHere (probably not this specific one)

errant berry
#

no i said a bad word and the bot didnt clap me

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but the fan pack was also surprising

foggy hazel
#

@errant berry re: word: dont think too much about it :)

errant berry
#

its a bad habit

#

tryin to break it

cursive wharf
#

It happens occasionally for bot to miss things. But dont bet on it if you're trying to be funny

errant berry
#

i wasnt

#

like i said, its a bad habit

#

only thing im lookin for now is a case with a glass front too

cursive wharf
#

Problem with glass front is that can kill airflow

errant berry
#

oh

cursive wharf
#

not too many cases do it properly

errant berry
#

hm

cursive wharf
#

as for which ones do, idk on that

foggy hazel
#

you need one "serious" amount of a gap

#

to act as air intake that is

errant berry
#

i changed the case

#

but either than that, i like it a lot

cursive wharf
#

It's like 1" - 1.5" or so for it to be considered "meh". Tho sometimes cases put the case fans in front of the front frame instead of behind so the fans start to block that 1" - 1.5" gap made for air

errant berry
#

seems like glass front cases are a waste

#

also, do i need thermal paste or does the cpu come with it

foggy hazel
#

comes with the cpu

errant berry
#

cool

#

well, the affordability of this rests in the hands that the windows 10 key will be 20

foggy hazel
#

it is possible to get it for that @errant berry

errant berry
#

i believe that

foggy hazel
#

so i would personally not worry about that part of it

errant berry
#

just dont want to buy something thatll mess up the computer

foggy hazel
#

it wont

errant berry
#

would i be able to return it if it doesnt work

foggy hazel
#

yes

cursive wharf
#

Here's the thing, keys are for activating Windows. you dont download Windows from these retailers

foggy hazel
#

its a product like any other in that regard

cursive wharf
#

actually wait

#

What are you on right now?

errant berry
#

my dad's pc

still roostBOT
#
Gabe#0420 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

cursive wharf
#

ah, nvm then. Was thinking about transferring licenses

#

also F

errant berry
#

i cant stop

foggy hazel
#

you can, it just takes practice.

errant berry
#

yea

cursive wharf
#

Just auto correct the words maybe

errant berry
#

but wym transferring licenses

cursive wharf
#

You can take a Win 10 license from one PC to another quite easily

errant berry
#

oh

cursive wharf
#

A bit harder with Say Win 7 or 8. But then again you can also upgrade for free

errant berry
#

does it mail a usb or is it a code?

cursive wharf
#

Most are by emailing a code

errant berry
#

yea i was just lookin

#

well is there anything else i should change?

foggy hazel
#

i would vote that you dont

errant berry
#

ok

foggy hazel
#

it is one powerful system

errant berry
#

agreed

#

went from a 1660 ti to a 2070 super

foggy hazel
#

and to the 3rd gen ryzen too

errant berry
#

mhm

#

just to confirm

#

this is the right one?

#

dont want to order parts and it be the wrong build

cursive wharf
#

temps of parts may be a bit hotter then usual due to case. But that's it

errant berry
#

im tryin to find a better case

foggy hazel
#

the Gamemax you had might be better

errant berry
#

which one

foggy hazel
#

based on the pictures on their page, it didnt look insane

errant berry
#

oh that one

#

yea i liked it too, only thing was there was no fans

cursive wharf
#

but also 5 pack for $37

errant berry
#

oh yea, im dumb lol

foggy hazel
#

nah, just overwhelmed by a bunch of info :)

errant berry
#

well i dont understand half of what you were talkin about but i what i needed

foggy hazel
#

if you are curious, just ask

#

there are no stupid questions, only silly answers

errant berry
#

yea

#

what was the name of the case fan pack @cursive wharf

cursive wharf
errant berry
#

thanks

#

should i wait to order it all at once or can i buy when i have enough

cursive wharf
#

order the parts that are required to test things. So CPU, mobo, RAM, GPU, and PSU to check for post. Then SSD to check that it boots properly. Then the rest whenever

errant berry
#

well i got 700 rn so what should i get first

cursive wharf
#

So that RMA is easier because you didnt wait two months to test to find out that a part is dead

errant berry
#

true

foggy hazel
#

save up the money for everything except case+fans

errant berry
#

ok

#

so buy the case fans now?

foggy hazel
#

case+fans are not that important in the RMA sense of things

errant berry
#

well i may buy the gpu

#

since there is a promo rn

foggy hazel
#

dont

errant berry
#

ok

foggy hazel
#

how long do you expect it will take you to save up ?

cursive wharf
#

The 2070S is always $500 - $510 or so. Just need to change the model

errant berry
#

well im getting a little help so i need ab 1000 or more

foggy hazel
#

yes, but how long do you think it will take you?

#

1 month?

#

6months?

errant berry
#

ill probably get it next week

#

or in 2 years

#

either or

foggy hazel
#

and that is why i asked

cursive wharf
#

That's an interesting delta time

errant berry
#

what

foggy hazel
#

When you have the 1200, please swing by and ask either Hei or myself

#

to go over your build again

#

just to make certain that something is not a better value/fit for you

errant berry
#

yea

foggy hazel
#

it will not take more than a couple of minutes for either of us

errant berry
#

i appreciate the help

cursive wharf
#

basically, prices change. better deals and such

foggy hazel
#

and you are very welcome @errant berry

little osprey
#

Should I go ahead and order my mobo and cpu? I’ll be selling my dirt bike soon so I’ll have enough for everything else

marble totem
#

Yes.

#

PC > dirt bike

icy plume
#

^

foggy hazel
#

@little osprey imo, no.

little osprey
#

Ok

#

I just can’t wait to start streaming and playing games with higher frame rate, but I guess I can wait and build it all at once

marble totem
#

Ya i know how you feel i get my new pc in September.

foggy hazel
#

@little osprey the reason for waiting is, in case there is a need to RMA something, it is just way more practical to have all the parts there

little osprey
#

U wanna know the specs?

foggy hazel
#

unless you have questions, there is no need to show/tell me

ember sierra
deep skiff
#

if you're gaming i'd go with 3600

foggy hazel
#

@ember sierra do you need the WIFI?

deep skiff
ember sierra
#

i do not need wifi, no

foggy hazel
#

@deep skiff its an editing rig, based on his post in the other channel

ember sierra
#

its mosrly gaming but also includes a bit of editing

deep skiff
#

o my bad

foggy hazel
#

nah, that is my bad :)

#

i read it the other way around.

#

thank you for the clarification @ember sierra

ember sierra
#

ah okay

#

so is @deep skiff suggestion the better way to go? I'd do the $20 extra

deep skiff
#

your build is fine, you just pay a premium for rgb (case+ram), if you can do without looks you could probably get something like what i put for a little more price

foggy hazel
#

there is also a heck of a premium on the mainboard

deep skiff
#

and the h510 elite doesnt have the best airflow because of the tg front panel

ember sierra
#

yeah i will change the mobo, but looks are important to me

#

and is the airflow fine though?

deep skiff
#

its not super bad but its not great

ember sierra
#

should i change it?

#

i like the looks of the chassis

foggy hazel
#

@ember sierra how willing are you to sacrifice performance for looks?

ember sierra
#

to an extend, i guess

foggy hazel
#

because you are leaving a fair deal of performance tied up with those visual choices

deep skiff
ember sierra
#

performance is more important in the end. but i have my pc sitting on my desk, i just really enjoy the looks of pc

foggy hazel
#

i am not trying to talk you out of having a "pretty" machine

#

just trying to make certain that you understand what you are trading off

ember sierra
#

what should i change then?

#

whats a good mobo i could use btw?

foggy hazel
ember sierra
#

and where could i increase my perfomance for aesthetics?

buoyant flame
#

Also should 3600mhz ram be taken into consideration?

deep skiff
#

a lot of the cheaper 3600mhz kits are cl19

foggy hazel
deep skiff
#

3200cl16=3600cl18, its the infinity fabric speed that makes people choose 3600mhz

#

because they dont have to tweak it out of the box, 1800mhz is the upper limits for 1:1

buoyant flame
#

Thats what I was referring to

#

But I'm pretty sure there's a gskill ripjaws kit thats cl16 at 3600mhz for a good price

foggy hazel
#

@ember sierra why exactly are you going for 2 m.2 drives?

deep skiff
#

thats 16-19-19 but its called cl16

buoyant flame
#

Oh yep lol naed has it in his list

deep skiff
#

but yeah both are solid

buoyant flame
#

Ok

foggy hazel
#

there is identically named one that is cl19

#

and the price of the two have at times flipped

#

which is part of the reason that Nachos is mentioning (i imagine)

deep skiff
#

i just put that ram in a lot of builds because of the price and e die, pretty easy to oc

ember sierra
#

@foggy hazel looks like your list has a quite significant price increase in germany, not sure if it fits my budget

deep skiff
#

whats the budget in euros?

ember sierra
#

1500

deep skiff
#

yeah without the mobo+ram thats 1500 rip

ember sierra
#

exactly

foggy hazel
#

that is fairly simple to fix.

ember sierra
#

great

foggy hazel
#

please, next time you ask, mention that you are not located in the US :)

#

(and i say that as a northern neighbour to you :) )

deep skiff
foggy hazel
#

aye, different markets etc

deep skiff
#

yeah

ember sierra
foggy hazel
#

quick question: your audio gear, is it usb or mini-jack based?

ember sierra
#

mini jack

#

i have the cloud alpha

deep skiff
#

dang ssd's are expensive in germany

ember sierra
#

:(

foggy hazel
#

nah, welcome to EU

#

germany is one of the cheaper places

ember sierra
#

it always has be related to average income

deep skiff
foggy hazel
#

any special reason for that ram Nachos?

deep skiff
#

yea its hella cheap

#

and somewhat okay

#

and i like e die

ember sierra
#

i could upgrade the ram to 3600mHz, as the build is a good bit under budget

#

or maybe just 3200

foggy hazel
#

there are no drives in his list, so ..keep that in mind :)

deep skiff
#

yeah that

ember sierra
#

ah of course

deep skiff
#

i left like €200 left for them because i had no clue

ember sierra
#

yes

#

i want ssd and at least 1.5TB...

foggy hazel
#

the Crucial P1 is not bad at that price (but i have not gotten around to that part of the list yet thou)

ember sierra
#

okay take ya time

foggy hazel
#

aye, that is just the price they cost over here

#

sorry!

formal coyote
#

quick question, r5 3600, recommended ram speed of 3200 or should go to 3600?

ember sierra
#

3200 is fine i think

deep skiff
#

can u link the kits?

formal coyote
#

im pre listing to change my cpu/mobo/ram, dont have one in head yet

deep skiff
#

ic

#

unless 3600 is super expensive its probably a better choice

foggy hazel
ember sierra
#

pcpp lists prices slightly above what you can get mostly

foggy hazel
#

what took time was finding a mainboard with a decent soundchip on it

deep skiff
foggy hazel
#

@ember sierra that is for you to know and me to just nod at :)

deep skiff
#

its like €45 more for the 3600x than 3600

foggy hazel
#

you know your local market, i know mine :)

ember sierra
#

yeah

foggy hazel
#

but that list is a serious suggestion for a very fast machine

formal coyote
#

i wouldnt go for 3600x, the price jump isnt worth it

ember sierra
#

it is only about +3% in performance tbh

foggy hazel
#

depends entirely on how much "hands off" the user intends to be

#

but as mentioned Nonk, it is your choice :)

ember sierra
#

the 3600x, is it better then 2700x?

foggy hazel
#

on the gaming side? yes

ember sierra
#

okay

deep skiff
#

3600/x is newer but has less cores

formal coyote
#

3600 with a good cooler matches the 3600x

ember sierra
#

and is quieter

#

right?

formal coyote
#

ye

foggy hazel
#

and both of those options are entirely "inside" of what i said above :)

ember sierra
#

yes

formal coyote
#

depends on your cooler, beQuiet! are insanely efficient and quiet

#

but a lil costly

ember sierra
#

budget is tight

#

the one nachos has in his list is fine though?

formal coyote
#

what budet you going for and usage?

deep skiff
#

basically it comes down to if you want to tweak the system or just plug and play

ember sierra
#

gaming, recording, bit of editing @formal coyote at 1500€

deep skiff
#

if you're find with tuning the cpu or messing with the bios, i'd say 3600+cooler, but if you just want to install it and run it i'd say get the 3600x

formal coyote
#

for a 2080 super i wouldnt go below 600w though,

deep skiff
#

:/ you can run a 9900k+2080 ti at 450w

formal coyote
#

if youre multi tasking, id go for more cores,

ember sierra
#

2700x in that case?

formal coyote
#

nachos it wont be at all efficient and performing xD

foggy hazel
#

@formal coyote there is zero need for a 600+ psu

#

just get a proper psu, fx like the AMP

formal coyote
#

a 9900k alone drains 95w + if you push it further

foggy hazel
#

and it will be just fine

#

yes, and do you see a 9900k up there?

#

in the actual lists

#

because i must admit, i dont.

formal coyote
#

you said a 9900k and a 2080ti runs on a 450w psu... sure, for 2 weeks

deep skiff
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but also a 3600x+2080 super draw much less than a 9900k/2080 ti, and there is a 100w higher budget

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it'll be fine

formal coyote
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PSU is the one part of a build neveer to neglect ,

foggy hazel
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i will be certain to tell the last 20 machines i built with that setup that they need to blow up, as in, like 3-5 months ago

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ember sierra
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wow

foggy hazel
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no need to bring out the cursing.

ember sierra
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xD

formal coyote
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if you build a 9900k+2080ti on a 450w psu be my guess bro but it*-wont last

ember sierra
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but we are not actually building that

deep skiff
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The i9-9900K has a TDP of 200W, and up to 240W if overclocked at 100% load, the RTX 2080 Ti has a stock TDP of about 290W, and again if you want to overclock the RTX 2080 Ti you will be looking at about 340W TDP at 100% load

foggy hazel
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^

deep skiff
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if a 2080 ti+9900k runs on 450w, then a lower spec'd system will run on 550w

formal coyote
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no i understand that, but he said ''oh no worry a 450w supports a 9900k and a 2080ti combined wich doesnt at all

foggy hazel
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no, that is not what he said :)

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":/ you can run a 9900k+2080 ti at 450w" <- that is what he said :)

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but, as Nonk said, that is not the system that is being built

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so can we get back to the actual build?

ember sierra
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yes pls

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550w should be okay

foggy hazel
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plenty

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especially because it is a good psu

ember sierra
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3600+extra cooler; or 3600x + stock?

formal coyote
deep skiff
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okay correction it was a 3950x

ember sierra
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3600+extra cooler; or 3600x + stock?
@ember sierra or more threads?

deep skiff
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but whatever 550w is enough

ember sierra
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right

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which cpu and which cooler?

foggy hazel
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stick with the 3600 either x or non-x

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if you want to spend a bit of time tinkering with the system

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take the 3600+cooler

deep skiff
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even if you lose cores, you get ipc gains

foggy hazel
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will also save you a bit of money at the same time.

ember sierra
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which cooler should i get?

foggy hazel
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What nachos linked is imo fine enough

ember sierra
deep skiff
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or if you want a better cooler (€50-60) i'd go with a scythe cooler such as fuma 2 or mugen 5 rev b

foggy hazel
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that also looks fine @ember sierra

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i am personally a very very boring person, i just about only use noctua coolers

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simply for their mounting system

ember sierra
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i do like bequiet

deep skiff
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yea noctua's great but pricey :v

foggy hazel
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that they are, hence why i pointed at your suggestions Nachos :)

deep skiff
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i like whatever cools good and is cheap lol

foggy hazel
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:)

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cools good and is quiet <- is normally the conditions i work under.

ember sierra
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so should i go nachos deepcool or bequiet

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they're about the same price

feral thistle
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I'm running a 3800X with stock cooler and having no issues right now.

ember sierra
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stock is fine

deep skiff
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they both perform pretty close, i'd pick whichever you like better

ember sierra
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i think i prefer bequiet

deep skiff
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go with them then :)

ember sierra
deep skiff
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looks good to me

ember sierra
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lets say i buy that build and once i have some money again... suggestions on monitors?

foggy hazel
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aye, that looks nice

deep skiff
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what resolution/budget/refresh rate, and does ips/tn/va matter?

foggy hazel
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before you answer that

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what timeframe?

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as in, in the next month?

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next year?

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just a rough idea

deep skiff
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yea thats probably kinda important

foggy hazel
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(advice we give is only really valid for a fairly limited time)

feral thistle
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the next 30 minutes

sullen spoke
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o

deep skiff
sullen spoke
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theo's monitor is pretty tasty

ember sierra
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what timeframe?
@foggy hazel i really have no clue... i do have a pc and use a U2414H and a U2419H. I might as well go with them? They only have 60hz though, i think.

deep skiff
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@coarse coral gib monitor

foggy hazel
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@ember sierra enjoy what you have

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and dont worry about a new monitor(s) for now

ember sierra
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sure thank you

foggy hazel
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just buy the machine, get it assembled and game the day away :)

ember sierra
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nah, school...

foggy hazel
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and just so it is clear, it is not that we cannot talk about monitors, but what we tell you, really wont matter for X time for you

ember sierra
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i know

sullen spoke
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I would game instead of school

foggy hazel
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:)

sullen spoke
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Im doin it rn

ember sierra
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are the Roccat Vulcan 120 AIMO and Roccat Kone AIMO remastered good peripherals?

foggy hazel
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no clue

ember sierra
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or, would they be worth the money?

foggy hazel
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i would strongly recommend that you go to one of your local stores and get some hands on time with different models

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mediamarkt comes to mind

ember sierra
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yes

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i was planning to do that anyways

coarse coral
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@deep skiff why are you breaking rules again

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WHY MUST YOU FORCE MY HAND

foggy hazel
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@coarse coral since you are awake, i believe there is something for you in #electronics

coarse coral
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thanks @foggy hazel

foggy hazel
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np, and morning to you too :)

ember sierra
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would changing the phanteks AMP 550w for bequiet pure power 11 600w, at a similar price, be smart?

foggy hazel
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i wouldnt

ember sierra
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okay

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the phanteks amp is located tier a in ltt's psu tier list

foggy hazel
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aye

ember sierra
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@foggy hazel i was thinking about the chassis again. i love a side panel window and the fractal design define c is a bit expensive. is there an alternative?

foggy hazel
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i think you should ask @deep skiff if he is still around

ember sierra
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@deep skiff help!

deep skiff
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o ill see whats cheaper

foggy hazel
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because all though i know a fair amount, i am limited in what budgets i normally work with

ember sierra
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which are, if i may ask?

deep skiff
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cases are pretty subjective tho, some people like cases others dont

ember sierra
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yep. i like side panel windows. :)

deep skiff
ember sierra
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thank you

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does the b450 aorus pro include usb-c connector?

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nvm it does

steel umbra
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Anyone know how much a Corsair RM 750 can sell for?

ember sierra
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depends on wattage and condition

steel umbra
sullen spoke
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box

steel umbra
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b o x

deep skiff
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:v just dont sell it on this server

cursive wharf
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@steel umbra Look above for answer but just a little notice for the future. Dont go by the stats on the back to determine quality. If you want a general quality idea from a source that is almost always correct then LTT PSU Tier list. If you want to look into it more then look into the reviews from PSU reviews such as Aris (from Tom's Hardware). You can also ask around from other people who actually know what they're talking about (people who dont just say it's good because of being from Corsair/EVGA/Thermaltake or because it's 80+ gold).

silver veldt
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I’m looking to build my very first computer. I want something I can game on. Is there a specific order I should be getting the components? By importance

sullen spoke
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I mean for planning you should start with a cpu and gpu that is appropriate for what games, framerate, and resolution you play at.

silent pelican
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!rank

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teal bison
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@silver veldt like what to order first? or pick them out?

silver veldt
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@teal bison both really.

teal bison
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@silver veldt well when you are picking out parts, I generally decide my desired resolution and framerate, like iTech said, and then find a gpu that matches that level of performance. After that, pick out a cpu that is capable of keeping up with your gpu. Once you pick your cpu, you find a motherboard that has your desired features (wifi, m.2 slots, sound chip, etc) and pick that. Then a power supply that can handle your parts and finally a case, again with desired features/aesthetic

silver veldt
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@teal bison thank you

teal bison
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oh i forgot about ram. for gaming, unless you are going ultra budget, generally 2x8gb of 3200+ mhz is good for most systems

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also for the motherboard, make sure it is the correct socket for your cpu, thats why you choose the cpu first before deciding on a motherboard

vagrant gulch
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Hi so I'm currently in the process of ordering stuff for my first pc build. My budget is $600 and already gotten some help. Could someone double-check with me on my parts?

sullen spoke
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post a link and someone will probably take a look

vagrant gulch
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alright cool thanks

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For the AMD Ryzen I was going to pick a 1600 AF

teal bison
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what are you using it for @vagrant gulch

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and what all have you already ordered?

vagrant gulch
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For gaming. Sorry I forgot to mention that.

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Haven't ordered any of it yet. Plan to in a couple of weeks

teal bison
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oh ok

vagrant gulch
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I'm also looking for a monitor, but kind of went above my budget. I guess this is normal? I wanted to get an HD monitor if that was fine.

teal bison
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what resolution/fps

vagrant gulch
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60 fps