#building-and-recc-chat

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silk helm
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I have also considered a mini desktop, though I don't know about portability of it

sacred obsidian
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you would be looking probably aroudn the 1200$ range for gaming laptop that can run MHW.

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well, there some ITX cases that are extremely portable but difficult to build in, and it also gets expensive to go small

sullen spoke
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laptops are usually more expensive

silk helm
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And there's also the problem of needing a display

sullen spoke
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but you can find some that are a decent price

sacred obsidian
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laptop would be the easiest for traveling. but if you had a hotel, you could usually hook up to the TV via hdmi.

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if you're super savy, you could always build a small display that could attach to the small case.

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but again that might get pricy 😛

silk helm
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Yeah, I was considering a Dell G3 that was on sale last week for Presidents day, but I'm open to recommendations on models

sacred obsidian
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i have a dell g7 and theyre... okay

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one of the big things with laptop is cooling. it can affect performance in a big way.

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i definitely don't mind my g7 but i also have a desktop for heavy gaming and im pretty sure MHW is a heavy game.

silk helm
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It's not the most urgent problem, but I was thinking about it and thought I'd ask while the topic was on my mind

sacred obsidian
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thats fair.

wide sparrow
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yoooo

sacred obsidian
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you could always keep an eye out on good deals. when i got mine it was a 1400$ laptop and i got it for 1000

wide sparrow
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I have a dell g7 to

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white edition

sacred obsidian
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what gpu?

wide sparrow
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1060

sacred obsidian
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6gb or 3?

wide sparrow
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6

sacred obsidian
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what cpu?

wide sparrow
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I7 8750h

sacred obsidian
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O:

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16gb ram?

wide sparrow
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yee

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No just 8 lol

sacred obsidian
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oof

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so close

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i have the black version lol

wide sparrow
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yeah almost maxed out

sacred obsidian
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but mine has 16 Squirtlederp

wide sparrow
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Eeh

silk helm
wide sparrow
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I just didn't put the money to get 16

sacred obsidian
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theres 4 laptops on that page lol

wide sparrow
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I would get an alienware instead 👀

sacred obsidian
wide sparrow
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^

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better

sacred obsidian
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ye

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i thoguht they both had 1660 tis Squirtlederp

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but yeah just do reviews or compare benchmarks on them

wide sparrow
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Don't get their crappy hard drives. Just buy a sata 2.5 inch SSD with your laptop

sacred obsidian
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cause 2 laptops with the exact same specs could have drastically different performances due to cooling and layout.

wide sparrow
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exactly

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For gaming that i7 might run hot

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Mine does

sacred obsidian
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mine gets so hot i cant touch the keyboard sometimes Squirtlederp

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but it runs decent

silk helm
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure improper heat dispersion was the main reason my last one broke

wide sparrow
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Oof

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second one was a mistake

sacred obsidian
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CLEAN YO LAPTOP anAngry

wide sparrow
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Ik

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):

sacred obsidian
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its mostly just smudges around the touch pad i was kidding lol

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oh hey your power button didnt rub off

cursive wharf
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@true comet Good good

silk helm
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My last one was a "gaming laptop" that only had an integrated graphics card

mild roost
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That laptop is nasty. I cleaned my keyboard it was relaxing.

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I had q tips to clean and they turned black brown.

wide sparrow
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Nope I took care of my laptop pretty good. Cleaned it all the time with wipes for keep it clean

sacred obsidian
wide sparrow
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Oof

sacred obsidian
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my power button decal pealed like 2 weeks after i bought it Squirtlederp

wide sparrow
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did you preorder yours like i did?

sacred obsidian
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nope

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got it open box

wide sparrow
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I did

mild roost
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You’re tabs are interesting btw JP

sacred obsidian
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and on sale

wide sparrow
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Ah

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uuuugh

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yeah they are

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How long have you had your laptop? Did you clean up the insides of dust build up yet?

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I had to tear down mines completely

sacred obsidian
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nope

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ive had it prolly a lil over a year i think

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i should prolly do that xD

silk helm
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So, what would be a good time to buy a laptop before summer?

sacred obsidian
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wait galacticpain how is your laptop "dead"

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uhhhhhh. whenever you see a deal you like lol

silk helm
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Something is wrong with the motherboard

sacred obsidian
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i dont think theres any big notable sale between now and summer

sullen spoke
wide sparrow
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You can wait for presidents day.....oh wait

mild roost
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Can wait for cyber Monday

wide sparrow
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Yeah

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or black Friday

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before that

mild roost
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Or when the stock market crashed again

silk helm
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Not sure exactly what, but when I got a diagnosis run on it they said the battery was badly bloated and the motherboard would most likely need to be replaced

sacred obsidian
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.-.

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is the battery internal?

silk helm
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Yep

sacred obsidian
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oof

stoic island
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sounds like them trying to make money off of you but what do I know

sacred obsidian
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if you could, i would take out the battery, plug it in, and see if it works again.

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if so, you might be able to get away with just buying a new battery.

silk helm
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Hated the laptop basically the whole time I had it though

stoic island
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Best time to buy is usually black friday

fresh summit
stoic island
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I'm not too familiar on other times where you get good deals in the US

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@fresh summit budget?

wide sparrow
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2080ti

fresh summit
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around $1450 but i would like to keep it around 1375

wide sparrow
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oh boy

stoic island
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can I critique the lists?

fresh summit
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yeah

stoic island
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I like the AMD list better

fresh summit
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also only gaming no streaming or work

stoic island
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but you can do fine on a B450 board

fresh summit
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dont i need to update bios for 3rd gen

stoic island
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oh then for just gaming, you only need a R5 3600

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Many motherboards don't need bios upgraded

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Check manufacturer page for the motherboard

fresh summit
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ok

stoic island
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I just remember MSI B450 max boards being 3rd gen compatable

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I'm not sure what products from other brands are

sacred obsidian
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you would get better performance out of the amd cpu build which i know mr1111 said, but im agreeing 😛

stoic island
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Also, you probably don't need a liquid cooler, get a nice u12s or something (Low maintaince, low noice)

fresh summit
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do you think it would be better to go with the r5 3600 and go with a rx 5700xt insead of a 2070s

stoic island
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nah

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2070S is better

fresh summit
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is it worth the extra 100

stoic island
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first is just ease of use, nvidia generally has better drivers. second is pure performance, it's superior overall, and using a r5 3600 you have enough room in your budget for it

fresh summit
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cause i have a few friends with a rx5700xt and it is getting really close to the 2070s

sacred obsidian
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the thing with b450 is that most mobos will be manufactured after the release of the bios update, so as long as you get one that is released after, it will have the latest bios update. but its best to contact the retailer to confirm if that specific board would have it.

wide sparrow
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Mmmm

fresh summit
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ok

stoic island
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Also, you get the ability of easily streaming if you ever want to

sacred obsidian
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the 2070s should be noticeably better than the 5700xt

fresh summit
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ok

stoic island
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5700xt is pretty much the same performance as 2070 iirc

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and 2070S is better than both

fresh summit
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ok

sacred obsidian
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its not a huge boost, but it is better.

stoic island
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yea

fresh summit
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lemme put together a new build and tell me what you think

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brb

stoic island
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alr

half temple
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What parts Should I chose for 500$

sacred obsidian
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as for is it worth the boost for 100, its up to you.

stoic island
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500$ build? are you building it now or can you wait a little to save up

half temple
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@stoic island right now if possible

stoic island
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thats a bit of a tight budget

half temple
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@stoic island just want something for light gaming

stoic island
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what games do you play

half temple
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@stoic island pubg sir

stoic island
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also, do you want to have Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor included? or do you have those

half temple
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@stoic island just the PC

fresh summit
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i did the 2700x so i dont need to worry about bios and im sure the 3600 wont make to much more of a diffrents

stoic island
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lemme think

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@fresh summit that motherboard is GUARANTEED updated bios, and 3600 is quite a bit better than the 2700x because of the IPC improvements by 3rd gen ryzen

fresh summit
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ok

stoic island
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Thats the selling point of the MSI max boards lol

fresh summit
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3600 or 3600x

stoic island
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3600

fresh summit
stoic island
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@half temple how much storage do you need? or plan on needing?

half temple
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@stoic island 120gb is best for now cause I only play pubg

stoic island
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@fresh summit That PSU isn't the best, you might want to switch that out for like a CX 550w or something

fresh summit
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ok

stoic island
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Okay I'll get you a small SSD

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lemme see how this list turns out

blazing vine
stoic island
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wait @half temple do you need wifi or do you have ethernet

blazing vine
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With gtx 1050

half temple
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@stoic island I have cable

stoic island
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alright

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@half temple

half temple
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@stoic island thanks I going to look over it

stoic island
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alright

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Amanda I'll look over that

little osprey
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What are we talking about?

stoic island
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Amanda wants to see if they can get easy upgrades on a prebuilt

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I'm currently trying to figure out what motherboard it has

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I gotta go, yall continue with this, I'll prob be back in a bit

wispy matrix
stoic island
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um

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you sure your GPU can handle that?

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144hz 1440p monitor AND a 1080p monitor

sullen spoke
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if the 1080p isn't doing much actively then it should be fine

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but I prefer Nvidia

stoic island
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1440p with 5700 is pretty bad

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its not even 5700xt

little osprey
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rtx 2060

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super

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drivers are leapyears better

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i heard driver problems are bad on amd

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rn

stoic island
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I would say get a rtx 2070s with a 1080p 144hz monitor

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driver issues are slowly getting fixed

little osprey
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i think the 2060s could do that but the 2070s would be better

stoic island
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I doubt 2060s can do that lol

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I really doubt it can run 1440p 144fps

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unless you're doing low settings

little osprey
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the 2070 cant do 144 1440p

stoic island
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exactly

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thats why 2070s

dull tangle
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So yea I’m back with a problem with my build. Idk what’s causing this but my pc makes this weird buzzing noise. If I push on the side of the case the noise stops. Any ideas of what it might be

little osprey
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i cant with my 2080 ti

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in some games

sullen spoke
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true a 5700 will not be able to run games 1440p 144hz

stoic island
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hmm

little osprey
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@dull tangle can you be more specific

sullen spoke
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I'd probably recommend at very least a 2080s for that

little osprey
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fro mthat video i cant really tell

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yeah @sullen spoke

sullen spoke
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or 2070s i guess

stoic island
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@dull tangle can you open up whatever you're touching and take a photo?

dull tangle
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Ight

sullen spoke
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but 2070s would have to turn settings down in some games

dull tangle
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It’s the back panel

stoic island
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because if touching it stops the noise, the noise is coming from something that is touching the panel

little osprey
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yeah

stoic island
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so opening it up would give us some possibilities

little osprey
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sounds like coil whine

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but its weird panel pressure stops it

stoic island
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Usually coil whine is from within, so prob not

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I wonder if its a fan with loose bearings or something thats like vibrating

little osprey
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i was thinking that too

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but the sounds is an electrical whine

sullen spoke
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I have a fan somewhere that makes a grinding noise until you touch it in the right spot at the right time

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it's weird

dull tangle
stoic island
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huh

sullen spoke
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can be improved a bit but it's not too bad

dull tangle
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It’s my first build

stoic island
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one possibility is one of those cables is barely touching a fan

little osprey
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i dont see anything

stoic island
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and pushing on the back panel pushes the cable away from the fan

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because there isn't many other possibilities

little osprey
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even thats a strech

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stretch

dull tangle
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This only occurs every once in a while. It’s weird

stoic island
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check where the cables go and move them if they're too close to touching a fan

sullen spoke
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What's the issue

stoic island
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thats my only guess

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weird noise

sullen spoke
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cool

dull tangle
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Someone also told me I might’ve not screwed something in. But I’ve checked and double checked everything and I didn’t see anything that could be screwed in

stoic island
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so, cables, you checked?

dull tangle
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In the process

stoic island
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alr

sullen spoke
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make sure notin is touching any fans

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look for anything poking out

stoic island
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yea they're checking that rn

sullen spoke
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try to find exactly where it is coming from

stoic island
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if you can't find the source rn, take off the side panel, and run your PC until you hear the noise, then locate where exactly it comes from

dull tangle
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I think I found the source

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Unplugging my back case fan made the noise stop

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Although from what I can see no cables were touching it

stoic island
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wierd, so nothing touching the fan blades?

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prob means the fan has a loose bearing or something

dull tangle
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No

stoic island
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if you have replacement fans, replace I guess

dull tangle
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It’s the stock case fan so that might be it

stoic island
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when did you buy it?

dull tangle
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Christmas

stoic island
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ah

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thats a bit too long

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if it was like within a month, you prob could've RMAed it for a new fan

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idrk tho

dull tangle
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Was thinking about buying some Noctua fans. Guess I have more of a reason to now

stoic island
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whats your budget?

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Noctua fans are amazing, prob the best in terms of quality and lifespan

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but they do get a bit expensive

viral ore
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they are

dull tangle
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I don’t have one I just want good ones

viral ore
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i have em

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they awesome

stoic island
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I have a smth redux

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the gray one

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a12 redux or something

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its amazing

dull tangle
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If they have it in black I’ll go for it

indigo mulch
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just buy a stick of butter and freeze it then leave it in your compter

stoic island
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wtf no

indigo mulch
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good cooling

stoic island
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also ditto noctua doesn't do black fans usually

dull tangle
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I’ve seen some on amazon

viral ore
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the iPPC ones are

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and they have a fre black ones

dull tangle
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I’m not a fan no pun intended of the cream brown thing they are known for

stoic island
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I'm a Fan of NOCTUA brown Fan

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Arctic P12 fans are really nice budget fans.

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the black fans in the front are arctic p14 fans, the gray fan at the very back is a noctua nf-p12 redux

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the beige fans are noctua nf-a14s iirc

dull tangle
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Aight thx

blazing vine
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ight its a MAINBOARD KIT GX-281 AMD B350 RTL8111GA ACER LOGO DTX W / O 1394 LF DB.E0D11.001

stoic island
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huh

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might be an issue

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it doesn't have bios that allows for 2nd or 3rd gen compatability

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can't update it to have 2nd or 3rd gen compatibility either

blazing vine
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welp

stoic island
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so CPU upgrade isn't an option

blazing vine
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crap

stoic island
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unless you want to like swap everything

blazing vine
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any motherboard recommendations?

stoic island
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wait can you open it up and make sure the cable that plugs into the motherboard is standard 24 pin?

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because sometimes pre-builts are scummy and use some wierd cable, and makes it impossible to upgrade motherboards without also replacing the power supply

blazing vine
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alright

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is their a chat where I can send a pic?

stoic island
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you need to level up

fresh summit
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you should just beable to send it here

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oh lowlevel

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dm it to him

stoic island
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yea just private msg me

wispy matrix
stoic island
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yes

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always

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@wispy matrix again, are you sure you want 1440p 144hz when your video card can't handle it?

wispy matrix
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I don’t know much someone helped me with this

stoic island
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because the rx5700 is not good enough for 1440p 144fps gaming

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its good enough for 1080p 144fps gaming tho

latent bronze
wispy matrix
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Can you fix it

stoic island
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I'll do my thing

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ppl might disagree but

latent bronze
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You do know he could play on high settings which will still look very good and get that 144 fps

wispy matrix
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I’m trying to get a dual monitor setup

stoic island
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ecks, not for 1440p tho

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1080p, yes

sullen spoke
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dual monitor no problemo man, just watch what main monitor you are shooting at and if the gpu can keep up

latent bronze
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yes at 1440p with a 5700

stoic island
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what

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5700 non-xt

sullen spoke
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depends on game

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AAA games probably not

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competitive game yes

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5700xt is basically a oced 5700

latent bronze
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You don't have to max out the game

stoic island
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Even if you don't max

latent bronze
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You can still make the game look as pretty as possible and still get 144 fps at 1440p

stoic island
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bruh

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very low settings on a 5700 to get 144+ fps

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on pubg

jaunty karma
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Need

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Fans

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Ples

wispy matrix
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Wolfz I gotchu I seen some for good prices

stoic island
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galaxy is in Philippines just warning you

wispy matrix
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Case fans?

stoic island
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yea they need 120mm case fans

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cheap non-rgb ones

latent bronze
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Bruh

stoic island
sullen spoke
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2060s it is

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gotta get that rtx minecraft

stoic island
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your source is nullified since it doesn't provide the stats we're looking for

blazing vine
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lol

stoic island
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'just imagine'

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I imagine my 2070 getting 4k 240fps

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Beast, they're in philippines

latent bronze
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Really and to trust your source that is asking for money in his description

sullen spoke
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rip

wispy matrix
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I’m going for 1200

stoic island
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I'll find more sources then

blazing vine
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so can my motherboard be easily replaced?

wispy matrix
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Depends

stoic island
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oh right

latent bronze
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That be some really old drivers there

jaunty karma
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Still need a fan <_<

wispy matrix
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Galaxywolfz I guess I can’t help bc I’m from the states

jaunty karma
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Rip

wispy matrix
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I’m sorry

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I can try to help you again just give me 10-20 mins

stoic island
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@blazing vine might be an issue because your mobo is DTX, which means the standoffs might be different than conventional say ATX boards

sullen spoke
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you know you can use websites from Philippines

wispy matrix
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Yes but I don’t any

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But I’m working on finding one

sullen spoke
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try lazada

stoic island
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NO

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NO LAZADA

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SCREW LAZADA

blazing vine
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what would I need to replace in order for it to be compatible with atx?

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sryz I'm being a pest

latent bronze
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@stoic island It is his site so and you asked him for his site

wispy matrix
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Also my build

stoic island
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no lol, he also said easypc

latent bronze
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That is like asking for chocolate to only refuse it when someone would give it to you

blazing vine
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dang who would refuse chocolate

stoic island
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what

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I asked for which sites from galaxy

wispy matrix
teal bison
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what are you using it for @wispy matrix

wispy matrix
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Gaming and streaming

teal bison
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well if you are streaming you probably want to get an nvidia card

latent bronze
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Streaming go with Nvidia or change the 3600 to a 3800

teal bison
wispy matrix
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You saved me a lot of money

teal bison
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other than that i think overall your build was solid, just some money saves that dont sacrifice a lot of performance

wispy matrix
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It was around 1256

teal bison
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you could also go down to 3200 mhz on your ram and save like $12 if you want

wispy matrix
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I will keep it as is

jaunty karma
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@stoic island

teal bison
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sure thing

jaunty karma
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It has white led

stoic island
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I thought it said white fan

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Not white led

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Lemme see

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Well

cursive wharf
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@teal bison @wispy matrix GX2 lacks DRAM cache and thus shouldnt be used

teal bison
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oh does it?

stoic island
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You should be able to use the fan without the led

teal bison
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should he get the wd blue instead then?

jaunty karma
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How much is one noctua fan

stoic island
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Idk for Philippines

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I don't even know if you guys have that as an option

latent bronze
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Why would you also down grade the board?

jaunty karma
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@cursive wharf

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I found a psu idk if its worth buying

cursive wharf
jaunty karma
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Is a CoolerMaster V650

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Gold

wispy matrix
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Hei it’s right at my budget I like it

stoic island
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Had to check lazada

astral flame
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A

stoic island
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Aparently Noctua fans are like 1800php

sullen spoke
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Lazada love_it

cursive wharf
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@jaunty karma modular?

sullen spoke
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It’s not terrible for noctua but still up there

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Well it is expensive

jaunty karma
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Semi

stoic island
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Remember

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The white led was like 180php

jaunty karma
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3 bucks

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Its 3 bucks

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For some what reason

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Lazada pricing is bad

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2bucks for led fans while non can be up to 6bucms

cursive wharf
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Tht CM PSU is good afaik

sullen spoke
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Lol

jaunty karma
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What? @cursive wharf

stoic island
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Galaxy

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You could use the fan and not plug in led

jaunty karma
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Wot

cursive wharf
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Coolermaster V semi modular

jaunty karma
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Then theirs a dangling wire

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Yes

cursive wharf
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Also most LED fans (no RGB) have it hooked up directly to the PWM fan header

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if not all

jaunty karma
stoic island
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O right

jaunty karma
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V650S

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For 40$

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Used

agile onyx
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Could someone help me build a pc for fortnite to get 244 fps on low settings

wispy matrix
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that’s gonna cost a lot

cursive wharf
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at what res? 16k? glhf with that

sullen spoke
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At 1080p go with at least a 2070 for a gpu

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Ryzen 5 3600 or more should be good

cursive wharf
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Also why high refreshrate at low? Your view distance should at least be set to max which then wouldnt be low settings

wispy matrix
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CPU I would go with a threadripper

sullen spoke
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Yes view distance max, everything else low

cursive wharf
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Even shadow distance can be helpful sometimes

sullen spoke
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True but most people don’t use

stoic island
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Why shadows

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I usually just turn shadows to lowest in any game

cursive wharf
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shadow quality can be low, but distance can be useful for the extra help in making moving objects appear "bigger"

sullen spoke
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Yes you need max distance

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It helps a lot

cursive wharf
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as now you see not only the surface of the object but also the shadow

mossy pine
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Hi. I have 2 questions. If im building a pc, if i did liquid cooled, would there be any fans needed at all and also will liquid cooled keep the dust out of the case??

stoic island
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Hei, explain it all to this man

cursive wharf
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With an air cooler the heat gets dissipated over the CPU. With a liquid cooler it gets dissipated else where. Surface area can sometimes be increased with a liquid cooler due to radiators being able to be bigger and have a higher fin density. So heat is still dissipated the same more or less. Unless you have enough surface area to passively dissipate the heat then you'll need fans

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Which that amount of surface area will depend on the CPU

stoic island
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The simple answer is yes, and no.

cursive wharf
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^

stoic island
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Fans needed bc look above, dust will still get pulled in by the fans.

mossy pine
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What do u mean surface area

sullen spoke
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Both use fans, one on top of the cpu, one on the side of the case

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The area of the surface of the fins

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More is better

mossy pine
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Ok don't the cpu come with heatsink

cursive wharf
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Surface area of a 3D object. With a cube that is just 6*(h^2) as that is the surface area of one side and there are six sides

stoic island
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You can choose to use that heatsink, replace with a liquid cooled method, or replace that with an aftermarket heatsink

cursive wharf
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If you put a bunch of holes into the cube then more of the surface will appear, thus higher surface area

stoic island
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lemme find some diagrams

sullen spoke
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Some amd cpus come with a heat sink that is actually decent

mossy pine
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Ok so either way im going to still need fans and have dust lol

stoic island
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yep

sullen spoke
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I mean there are ways to make fanless PCs but it is difficult

stoic island
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fanless PCs dont cool anywhere as well as PCs with fans

mossy pine
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Ok didnt know if there was a way to keep dust out completely and not have the fans noise/failing

stoic island
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if you don't want failures

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Air cooling is the way to go

sullen spoke
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There will always be dust sadly

stoic island
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because if you use an AIO, the pump could fail, and you wouldn't know, and that could damage your system.

sullen spoke
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It is always nice to clean ur pc once in a while

stoic island
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It could also leak, causing major problems

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AIOs are generally more expensive

mossy pine
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Ok. Maybe ill just get a really good fan thats reliable lol

stoic island
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Noctua fans are generally very good and very reliable

sullen spoke
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Noctua is good but not rgb

stoic island
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they are also very quiet

sullen spoke
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They can be a bit pricey

mossy pine
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Rgb?

stoic island
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lights

mossy pine
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Oh i dont need fancy lights lol

stoic island
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Noctua gang :D

sullen spoke
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Then noctua is good

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And if you don’t like brown they did come out with black fans

mossy pine
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Ok thanx all

jaunty karma
warped moat
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Needs more rgb

sullen spoke
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Not enough

wide sparrow
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Yep

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needs rgb extensions and strips

orchid ermine
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Need help just got done building my pc and turned it on and it keeps say please power off and plug in pci-e chords for graphics card.

visual vault
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So hey guys I was in this chat desiding on 1070 or 2060 for a gpu I got a 2060 and now I’m balling although I realize how I can’t stream because my cpu can’t handle it, do y’all think for budget I should get a ryzen 2700x?

sullen spoke
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Check that the card is completely in the slot, make sure you have the external power cords plugged in and it is in the psu

orchid ermine
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Yeah it's all in made sure of that more likely gonna take it to a professional tomorrow. I'm still a lil new to pc building

sullen spoke
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2700x or 3600 are good cpus for streaming. I will say the 2060 should be a good card for streaming using the NVENC hardware encoder as I believe it has a newer version of nvenc than the 10 series cards

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Did you ever manage to get into bios @orchid ermine

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What is your current cpu @visual vault

visual vault
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Ryzen 2400g

orchid ermine
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No and amd ryzen 5

sullen spoke
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Is the vídeo cable plugged into the gpu or the mobo @orchid ermine

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@visual vault ye if you can a 2700x or 3600 would be good. A 2700x has more compute power while 3600 basically gets slightly higher fps btw

visual vault
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Ok I think I may go for the 2700x then as my next pc purchase

sullen spoke
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Sounds good

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Always keep a lookout for new hardware if you want

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Also btw make sure when you stream you have the nvenc encoder selected and not x264 @visual vault

visual vault
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Yeah I know part, doesn’t it use less resources with the nvenc encoder

sullen spoke
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Is uses less cpu

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visual vault
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Whoops

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I think I only changed It on obs not obs streamlabs

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Oml I may not even need to upgrade I forgot to switch to the new encoder

sullen spoke
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Lol

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In abs studio there is also a nvenc(new) under advanced settings

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Has a bit better performance

visual vault
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That’s halarious

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I can still tell I need that upgrade but it’s handling it well although slightly studded every no and then

sullen spoke
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Yeah a cpu upgrade would still be very helpful with that gpu

visual vault
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Very true I’m still gonna get one just interesting that I forgot to change the encoder

sullen spoke
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Make sure you apply the settings now

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Lmao

outer locust
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whats a great cheap pc that could run almost everygame on 144fps?

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I saw in scatter volt, he made a pc with 1600 af and rx 5600 xt

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is that good?

teal bison
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it wont really be able to run games at 144fps without turning the settings down but that is a good cpu/gpu combination

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also depends on the games you play

outer locust
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okay

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uh scattervolt made a build with that setup for $700

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are there any ways to make it cheaper with at least 1tb?

teal bison
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do you care about aesthetics?

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and is that 1tb of ssd or hdd?

outer locust
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At least ssd for boot system itself

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And rest for games

teal bison
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so like a 120 ssd and a 1tb hdd?

outer locust
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Do you think 120 is enough for years

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for windows and drivers and other stuff

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?

teal bison
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not sure but we can bump it up to 240

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i think itd be enough but just to be safe

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and how much do you care about aesthetics?

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i assume not a lot if you are trying to go as cheap as possible

outer locust
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yup

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I mean go for the better looking one if they are the same price

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but yeah it doesn’t matter, as long as it performs well

teal bison
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ugh pcpp is being wierd for me

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probably can go cheaper, but again my pcpp is being weird and not displaying prices correctly and i have to go to bed but good luck@outer locust

outer locust
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ok tysm

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good night

teal bison
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ya you too, was supposed to be in bed an hour ago lol

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actually an hour and 18 minutes

outer locust
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oof sorry

cursive wharf
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@teal bison pcpp has been failing to properly get the prices so lot of the time the price of one of the components will just be nothing

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Also didnt I already complain to you about GX2 being dramless?

tulip narwhal
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im looking for a good pc under $1k AUD preferably around 800 or less

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also need a very cheap monitor

wispy matrix
#

Change of plans by build is going to be 600$

stoic island
#

?

void wolf
#

So I got a new case—Lian Li TU150—and a new power supply for it. New case has amazing options for cable management. However, the cables on the new SFX power supply are too short to take advantage of this. I am irritated.

wispy matrix
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I’m doing a prebuilt any suggestions I have 600$ budget

vivid atlas
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doing a prebuilt ?

upper condor
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Cringe

teal bison
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@wispy matrix at 600 you are going to have a lot of compromises on quality of components on a prebuilt

wispy matrix
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Ik

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But it’s the money I have saved up

little osprey
wispy matrix
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I’m doing a prebuilt sorry for wasting your time miles

little osprey
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Oh I was asking about it for myself

warped moat
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@little osprey you can get the 1600 AF for 85$

little osprey
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Oh that’s what I thought it was

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Ok I’ll make some changes

warped moat
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This is the AF

little osprey
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Yeah

wispy matrix
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Oh

little osprey
warped moat
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Looks decent. That ssd is kinda small tho. Look at getting an hard drive later on

upper condor
little osprey
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@warped moat yeah that’s the plan

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What’s the difference between the 2600 and the 1600 af

upper condor
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Nvm

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Didnt see that onw

little osprey
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Ah

foggy hazel
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@little osprey , consider that the ram you are buying is semi-wasted on that cpu

little osprey
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Wdym

foggy hazel
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and i didnt see you latest list, that is my mistake Miles :)

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the 3200 is what you want (just as you have on your latest list)

little osprey
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Oh yeah

latent bronze
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@little osprey the difference between the 1600 AF and the 2600 is like 5 fps difference

little osprey
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Oh wow

latent bronze
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and also the 1600 you picked on your original list is the 1600 AE not AF

little osprey
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Yeah

latent bronze
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So performance is a lot less

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What are you planning on playing as well?

quaint terrace
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which pc parts are usually just plug and play when upgrading/switching?

latent bronze
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monitor

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Lot of other things you have to do things like install or format

little osprey
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@latent bronze mostly esports games like siege and overwatch

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Maybe apex

latent bronze
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1080p?

little osprey
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Yeah

latent bronze
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So the 1650 Super would be enough for those games

little osprey
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Ok

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Yeah

cursive wharf
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@little osprey I'd switch that PSU. BR is not that great, get a Corsair CX

little osprey
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I did in my newer list

cursive wharf
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Which you did. I'm just blind

little osprey
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Yeah lmao

cursive wharf
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So yee, you good

little osprey
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Coolio

cursive wharf
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Just as a note tho, 450w will be limiting for upgrading

little osprey
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Yeah, but it won’t be that much to upgrade it in the future

cursive wharf
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PSU lacks the PCIe connectors to do so. Only one 6+2 pin PCIe cable

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But if that's the case then meh

wraith stag
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not sure why but my PC won't turn on now?

sullen spoke
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can you get more details?

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are fans spinning? lights on?

wraith stag
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Nothing like it's absolutely not even powering on

sullen spoke
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is the power supply plugged in and switched on

wraith stag
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Yes it is plugged in

sullen spoke
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is it turned on, PSUs usually have a power switch next to the plug

wraith stag
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Mine does not

sullen spoke
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is this a pc that you built or bought?

wraith stag
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Received

sullen spoke
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like from someone you know?

wraith stag
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Yeah. It was working fine, was gonna take out everything to put in a new case I was gonna buy today. Decided against the new case and now it's not turning on.

sullen spoke
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so there is no response when you click the power button right?

wraith stag
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None at all.

sullen spoke
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did you touch or do anything to the pc sicne it last turned on?

wraith stag
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Yes I removed everything like I said Bc I was gonna put it in a new case

sullen spoke
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and now it is back in the case?

wraith stag
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Yes.

stoic island
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probably some wires might be loose or something

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check connections that you might've forgotten to plug in

sullen spoke
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did you plug in the power button cables

wraith stag
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I had everything back in the spots I was supposed to and nothing.

sullen spoke
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can we see a picture perhaps

stoic island
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So it doesn't turn on at all or is it just no display

sullen spoke
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not at all

wraith stag
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Well now unplugged everything to start from the beginning.

sullen spoke
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you didn't forget the 24pin mobo and the cpu power cables right?

wraith stag
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No I did not.

Everything on it is pretty old tho.

upper condor
#

I saw you open your case earlier @wraith stag

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Make sure everythings plugged in

sullen spoke
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check for labels on plugs or mobo to make sure it is in the right place

wraith stag
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Could I have done damage to the mobo

sullen spoke
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most likely you just forgot to plug something in or put something in the wrong slot/header

wraith stag
sullen spoke
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oh yeah that is old

wraith stag
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Oh yeah it is. So I plugged in the power supply and now I'm stumped

upper condor
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Is there no 24-pin?

sullen spoke
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well I think I see the front panel io on the top of the pic

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but I can't see which pins are for power button

sacred obsidian
wraith stag
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Yes

upper condor
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Yeah, 24 pin is a must

sullen spoke
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can I get a closer pic of this

sacred obsidian
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like the power button pin

wraith stag
sullen spoke
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there should be cables coming from the case somewhere

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ok so it looks like the power button is for pins 6 and 8

wraith stag
sacred obsidian
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no

sullen spoke
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now to see which pins are 6 and 8 ThinkingEgg

sacred obsidian
#

it should be like a black female plug or many small black female plugs coming from the case itself. the wires should be able to be seen around the front top of the case or near the power button or usb plugs

sullen spoke
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wherever the power button is on the case, look around there on the inside of the case

upper condor
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Like these ^

sacred obsidian
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it oculd be one big plug all together though

sullen spoke
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it's probably going to look a little different looking at how old the mobo is

wraith stag
stoic island
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might be it

sullen spoke
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is there a label on that on

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It could also be hd audio

foggy hazel
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Hd audio has a different pinout

sullen spoke
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

foggy hazel
#

That is the front panel connector

sullen spoke
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I like the colorful wires

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lol

stoic island
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should be it

wraith stag
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There's four extra pins out??

sullen spoke
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I'm going to guess match up the missing hole on the plug with the missing pin on the header

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there could be extra pins

wraith stag
#

boys we have power

sullen spoke
wraith stag
#

Now does it matter where the plugs for ssd and hdd are plugged in or

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Like obviously I know there spots for it but I have several

wraith stag
#

Okay turns on but now I have no screen lmao

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wraith stag
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Nevermind I figured it out

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I got frustrated sorry 😦

indigo mulch
#

can someone help me find good parts

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motherboard

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I know

viral ore
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@indigo mulch ok

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over here ig

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so you just need a tower for now

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on about 600 USD?

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or are you not in the US?

indigo mulch
#

cad

viral ore
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ok brb

indigo mulch
#

harder to work with but

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I’m poor

viral ore
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yeah, 450 usd is kinda low

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tbh, the motherboard you got now

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does it work??

indigo mulch
#

Yes

viral ore
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because 450 is an ebay parts pc

#

its really low

indigo mulch
#

I’m getting another computer I don’t know what motherboard is in it but I’m just waiting until the guy clears the hard drives

viral ore
#

oh really, nice

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i would wait till then

indigo mulch
#

alright

viral ore
#

because odds are it could have some salvagable components inside

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like the case and ram

indigo mulch
#

Case might be old as well

viral ore
#

or, if its good enough, the motherboard

indigo mulch
#

I have DDR3 ram

viral ore
#

ok, so wait till you get that other pc, when you do, let ppl here know the specs of it, and your budget

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because i might not be here when that happens

indigo mulch
viral ore
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no, stop with the lists, they arent helping

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oh, thats really good ddr3

indigo mulch
#

I got told to clean the pins or whatever but I don’t know how

viral ore
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a q-tip and some isopropyl alcohol

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will do it

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dude go away

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yeah, that works too

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not really

#

when its got a dab of isopropyl on it

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not really as much

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and, if the pins are actually dirty, the alcohol will help

#

you are contributing literally nothing

indigo mulch
#

I can show you all the parts I have if you would like

viral ore
#

im asking all the questions, and gathering all the data, your just jumping the gun and listing random ass parts

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so you have HDD, RAM, and whatever the other pc your getting comes with.

indigo mulch
#

I have another hard drive that’s 1tb in a different computer that’s here witch works but the internet doesn’t work on it

viral ore
#

is the other pc yours?

indigo mulch
#

Yes

viral ore
#

that doesnt work with wifi

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is it really old do you know?

indigo mulch
#

I can get it hold on

viral ore
#

its a mATX tower case

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so boom, you have a case, even if we wanna change out the motherboard

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the case can hold 3 HDDs

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and an ATX psu

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so its perfect

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airflow isnt that great, so gonna have to shoot for lower wattage components

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i checked

indigo mulch
viral ore
#

it has a removable io

indigo mulch
#

I have three hard drives then I have the one in this computer witch I’m going to remove and put it in the other

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And then I’m going to get the other computer and take the hard drive out of it

#

So I’m going to have five hard drives

viral ore
#

nice

indigo mulch
#

So now o just need an ssd for the operating system

viral ore
#

well, i guess lets just wait and see what the other system your getting has in it

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once you open that, we will know what you have to actually buy

indigo mulch
#

Fun part is I’ve got all these systems for free

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Like near me?

#

I could buy from newegg amazon

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I don’t know any others

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Stores near me

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I could go bestbuy

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Only thing near me that I know of

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Yeah

sullen spoke
#

Is there a..... microcenter near you

indigo mulch
#

No

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I live in Ontario

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In between Ottawa and Kingston

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I’ll look at it in a minute

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indigo mulch
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crap

#

burn it

wispy matrix
#

I have a question my system says the storage is full but this is what it shows

stoic island
#

Where does it say storage is full

wispy matrix
#

I was trying to download a game but it said storage full and I can’t do anything about it bc I’m new to this stuff

stoic island
#

What game

#

@wispy matrix and what downloader

wispy matrix
#

Fortnite

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but I can’t play bc I’m trying to use the other drive

stoic island
#

That's why

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Fortnite takes like 60gb to install, and the installer is trying to download it into your main drive

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And there isn't enough storage on the C drive

#

Check if you can change download location

wispy matrix
#

Idk how

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I’m confused

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I’m trying to use the d to make it my main

indigo mulch
#

fortnite

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reee

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die

stoic island
#

Is D your SSD or HDD, out of interest?

wispy matrix
#

hdd

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the first one is ssd

stoic island
#

Also when you download fortnite, it'll ask you to choose a download folder, choose a folder within the d drive

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Because it usually defaults to system drive

wispy matrix
#

I got it

#

Thx

true comet
#

Hey chat!

viral ore
#

hey

sudden turret
wanton sail
#

Question, so i have the b450 motherboard with 4 fans plus cpu cooler and looks like motherboard only has 3 sys fan would I just put 4th fan on cpu_opt?

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Not used to the names on this board used to just sysfan and fan lol

true comet
#

I want to make sure everything will work nicely together here

teal bison
#

its kind of overpriced id say, 120 is pretty close to entry level x570 and more expensive than other motherboards with better vrms

subtle halo
#

120$ x570?

teal bison
#

at least according to the list i use, it might throttle your cpu if you want to upgrade in the future, but if you dont plan on upgrading then ive heard it has good sound and io

#

no but 150 is where x570s start

#

like the prime-p, UD, and phantom gaming 4

#

also i dont know the regular price but its on sale right now so when it goes off sale that will bring it even closer, unless it is one of those products that is basically always on sale

cursive wharf
#

@teal bison So, not everything is about VRMs right

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sound chip, network chip, USB ports, M2 ports, PCIe ports, etc

teal bison
#

no but it limits his upgrade potential in the future, you can buy better sound cards and wifi cards in the future but upgrading a vrm requires a whole new mobo

sullen spoke
#

There are many parts on a mobo

cursive wharf
#

I mean, if you plan on getting a OCed 3900x, why use a $115 board (tomahawk)? You have a $500 CPU and a $45 cooler, if you plan to upgrade get a better mobo

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As that board can run upto even a stock 3950x, but max on the OC side is 3700x (maybe 3800x too)

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Plus, at the time of upgrade, most people would just replace everything all together as it's been 3 - 5 years where you need a new mobo anyways

true comet
#

is a BIOS update something would be needed?

sullen spoke
#

mmm depends

#

depends how new the stock is that the seller has and how they sell it

#

They are updated in factory now but if you end up getting older stock then it would need an update, you can always try to contact the seller, newegg it looks like

wide sparrow
#

@sullen spoke ok..I'll talk here

sullen spoke
#

better

half temple
#

Is the Msi X370 still good enough for the Ryzen 9 3900x

wide sparrow
#

Doubt

sullen spoke
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umm I don't know if 3rd gen runs on x370

#

welp im wrong

wide sparrow
#

Exactly. The amount of amps required for that chip are too low on that older Mobo design

#

o

sullen spoke
#

at least some do

#

but yeah check the power limits for the cpu on the mobo, make sure it can supply enough power

wide sparrow
#

Is there a spreadsheet that shows what works and what doesn't?

#

@cursive wharf can I see that spreadsheet of yours for Mobos?

sullen spoke
#

lol

half temple
#

I have a Msi x370 titanium is the power good enough

sullen spoke
#

for a 3900x?

#

the vrms might get a bit toasty

#

blow some aire on em and it looks like it could

true comet
#

Sorry chat family stuff - so I didn’t mean to spark anything in reference to the build. I was hoping perhaps anyone could confirm this would be the best purchase of up to $1,300

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For gaming - Fortnite a little league

tulip narwhal
cursive wharf
#

Poor SSD (dramless) and PSU (too cheap, might be group regulated which is a no no)

tulip narwhal
#

thankyou

teal imp
little osprey
#

Yeah I’m buying a amd 5 3600

vivid atlas
#

It has very good VRMs, that is what is exceptional about the MB itself. (tomahawk max)

#

You should adjust your board choice in function of your needs (M.2, PCIe slots, sound chip, wi-fi)

#

I/O is important too (there should be everthing you need)

#

@little osprey

little osprey
#

I plan on using a 1tb ssd m.2 and it says some of the SATA ports won’t be able to be used is that a issue ?

cursive wharf
#

@teal imp RX580 is like closer to 100 used isnt it? Also should note that SSD is most likely a rebrand. Cant really tell the difference between the two+ X3 models that are out there. Only one of them is good. I wouldnt suggest the risk as the other model is terrible

vivid atlas
#

that's normal, some SATA ports will be disabled if you used one or more M.2 slot(s)

little osprey
#

Will I even need sata ports ?

cursive wharf
#

depends on how much you like storage

vivid atlas
#

if you plan to buy sata storage yeah

little osprey
#

I only plan to use the 1tb ssd m.2 as my only storage

vivid atlas
#

you should be fine

cursive wharf
#

In the next two years you wont change your mind?

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and slowly start to buy more drives

vivid atlas
#

yeah, try to future-proof, maybe 1TB won't be enough

little osprey
#

I only plan to use it for 2 games atm I don’t plan on saving videos or photos

teal imp
#

@cursive wharf im still not sure if i want to go with ssd. Im still a old school hhd fan. But this would be my first build.

vivid atlas
#

atm though...

cursive wharf
#

At least have a 240gb SSD as boot

#

then like 2tb HDD as rest of storage or smth

little osprey
#

Yeah if I play other games in future I plan on deleting them off the ssd

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The older games

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Plus In 2 years I’m sure I’ll upgrade most of all my pc

vivid atlas
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think about what you should get and what you plan to buy in the future

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IMO 1TB M.2 seems like a very good start.

little osprey
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Would you like to see my build list ?

vivid atlas
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if you didn't buy yet, people from the server could come up with recommendations 🙂

little osprey
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I’ve only bought ram and case so far

vivid atlas
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drop the list if you want 🙂

little osprey
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Alright one sec

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This will be my first pc build ever

cursive wharf
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SSD is dramless, so depending on scenario perf will suck super badly

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Also unless you plan to OC heavily I wouldnt get that board

little osprey
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I don’t plan on OC at all

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And ssd runs games better ?

vivid atlas
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nothing is wrong with acrylic, but just want to point out the fact that your case's side panel isn't tempered glass

little osprey
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Yeah Ik

vivid atlas
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alright then 🙂

cursive wharf
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Will help with load times on games, or just general usage

little osprey
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Then why would performance be a issue ?

vivid atlas
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also, note that your case comes with 1 fan only (included)

little osprey
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Yeah I read everything before I bought

cursive wharf
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as SSDs with DRAM are $5 more, and will just be better in general

vivid atlas
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My bad, missed the part when you said that you already bought the case and the RAM.

little osprey
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I already purchased ram

cursive wharf
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as did I, welp

little osprey
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My buddy has a brand new asrock b450 pro4 atx he said he would sell me for 70$

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Should I grab that instead of the tomahawk

vivid atlas
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Thats totally fine imo.

cursive wharf
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If it has the BIOS for 3000 series, yeah

vivid atlas
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make sure it's new

little osprey
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Yeah it does says on box

cursive wharf
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Then get that

little osprey
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It is new he sent me pics

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Alright and that ssd ?

vivid atlas
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that's right

little osprey
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Alright I appreciate it I’m mostly building it just to play rust and escape from tarkov

vivid atlas
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Your build should be a solid start 🙂

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best of luck!

little osprey
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I appreciate that man , thanks.

foggy hazel
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@little osprey as i told you, when you asked about it earlier. A receipt is needed for that "new" mainboard

compact yoke
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Hi! I'm looking to build my own custom PC for the first time. However, I have a lot of specific needs as it will serve for video editing. I'll be using DaVinci Resolve with some After Effects, Photoshop and occasionally some Adobe Premiere. After Effects is notorious for eating most of the memory and storage, and due to the video editing I'll need some powerful GPUs. So, my questions. Would it be possible to have two GPUs as well as two SSDs? The two GPUs would be to separate the graphical demands from the softwares (I'll be running simultaneously), and the two SSDs are for a redundancy for After Effects. Putting a second storage lets After Effects read-write on one so the main SSD doesn't corrupt. If so, what kind of motherboard will be able to support it? Will I be needing two separate motherboards, and if so, is it possible to run a dual motherboard setup? My budget is pretty high so expensive components aren't an issue. Thanks!

foggy hazel
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those are fairly trivial things to solve @compact yoke [edit: so -> to]

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what is your current setup ?

compact yoke
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Sorry...not exactly sure where to ask and I was directed here

foggy hazel
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you are asking in the right spot :)

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what i mean by trivial is this: Your list of requirements are simple enough to work with :)

compact yoke
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Oh ok ok great. Right now I'm running on a Mac due to my job. But I can't stand it anymore and I've never been an Apple guy. Luckily I can custom build my own PC for work

foggy hazel
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what about licenses ?

compact yoke
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One of my biggest issues is with After Effects. For the last six months, the read-write has been getting slower and slower, not to mention the render time.

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For Adobe?

foggy hazel
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aye

compact yoke
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I have Adobe Creative Cloud. It's a non-issue

foggy hazel
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actually, can you give me .. 10 minutes? (because i just stepped in the door from work)

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and then we can dig into it

compact yoke
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Yeah no problem

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Thanks!

foggy hazel
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np :)

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alrighty @compact yoke

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you got the ability/time to join the voice chat and talk over the quirks?

compact yoke
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Not right now

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I unfortunately don't have a microphone at work!

foggy hazel
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fair, text it is then :)

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you say that you are allowed to spec your own machine.

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is your pipeline not dependant on colour calibration?

compact yoke
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Yes. And since I have carte-blanche on budget I'm looking at some higher end specs

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I have a monitor for colour correction

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I mostly focus on editing and effects. I do SOME colour correction but it mostly goes to my colleague

foggy hazel
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just a quick note: please keep in mind, i have to ask some questions that might seem a bit weird/silly (but since i cannot read your mind, please be patient). Also I would not be helping you if i didnt try and make certain you are aware of what you are potentially getting yourself into.

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i hope that makes sense ?

compact yoke
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Yeah of course! That's why I'm here! I'm pretty strong on software but hardware, not so great...

foggy hazel
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fair :)

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have you dealt with colour calibration in windows before?

compact yoke
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When you say colour calibration, do you mean colour correction (in Resolve for example)?

foggy hazel
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because it is not the walk in the park that MacOs is

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i mean calibration on the application level

compact yoke
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Oh ok ok

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Yes I use Windows at home

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Hence why I want to get rid of my Mac at work

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I use Parallels just to use Windows sometimes at work lol

foggy hazel
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it works, it is just not as "easy" as it is to do (and keep consistent) as it is on the mac. hence why i ask

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because it can be a ... not so welcome .. surprise for people

compact yoke
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Yeah of course

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I've been using Windows all my life. I've only been using Mac for a year due to work and it's driving me crazy

foggy hazel
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could you give me a brief rundown of your machine at work?

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spec wise that is

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(just curious about what end of the spectrum you are currently located at)

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you can pm me the info if you dont want to post it here

compact yoke
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MacBook Pro Mid 2015
OS X El Capitan
2.8 GHz Intel Core i7
16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
AMD Radeon M370X 2048 MB