#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 480

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 6:57 PM

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aye

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so, basically a potentially risky bet for no gain

cursive wharf Feb 20, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Yeah

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Was going to change that eventually

upper condor Feb 20, 2020, 6:58 PM

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@lofty swan https://pcpartpicker.com/list/grxkHB

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Oh oops

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Nvm ur waiting a few months

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 6:59 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t48yHB <- that is about as scrapped as it "can" go, if there is a 2070S involved

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mind, there is a board, that if you can find it in stock, that will save you 25-ish bucks

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but. as mentioned earlier, there is no point in doing more now

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@lofty swan does that make sense?

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@upper condor was it you that asked about newegg earlier?

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@stoic island the newegg conclusion was that he ended up taking the chance, but got a secondary recommendation for a board that could be updated without a cpu IF he wanted.

cursive wharf Feb 20, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Here is my take on super very estimate build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v4Dfx6

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Forced mobo price incase it's in-stock at time of purchase

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 7:05 PM

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aye and both your list and my own are making ... trades ... to get remotely close

cursive wharf Feb 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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RAM is e die so not to bad, if you want to OC that is. SATA SSD and mobo is the main trades I see

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 7:08 PM

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if we get technical, ram, ssd, psu on yours.

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psu (high cost), mainboard, ssd on mine

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my list is what it is because of refusing to go down.

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it is however very academic for both of us, since it seems he has left the building long ago :)

cursive wharf Feb 20, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Yeah, given the "1k but actually maybe 1.1k budget" I tried to stick closer to 1k

stoic island Feb 20, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Naed

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wait nvm

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 7:51 PM

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@stoic island go ahead, you had a question?

stoic island Feb 20, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I thought you were talking to newegg ppl about how old their stock was

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since we were talking about older bios and stuff

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but yea it doesn't really matter

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if they wanted to gamble a little, its okay

zinc beacon Feb 20, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Hello. I hope your day ia going well. I'm essentially PC building illiterate but want a gaming PC. I am getting my tax retrun soon and I'm looking to get a pre-built for myself but also want to ensure that I'm getting my money's worth. I don't know a lot about it but I know I need something that will run all of todays games without an issue..also if it helps I'm just trying to stay in the budget of under 1k. Thank you

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 7:53 PM

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@zinc beacon 1k for the machine itself or?

zinc beacon Feb 20, 2020, 7:54 PM

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I suppose, you mean am I looking to spend more for an additional monitor and mouse etc.?

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 7:54 PM

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aye

zinc beacon Feb 20, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Any help would be greatly appreciated but yea, I can spend addional on the accessories n such

stoic island Feb 20, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Quick question, why do you want pre-built instead of building it yourself? Ppl here like me like to suggest building it yourself.

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 7:56 PM

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do you have a headset or anything at the moment?

zinc beacon Feb 20, 2020, 7:56 PM

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I wouldn't even know where to begin honestly

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Nothing atm. I have a ps4 lol

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 7:57 PM

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okay

zinc beacon Feb 20, 2020, 7:57 PM

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An OG ps4 at that

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 7:58 PM

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re: building: let me ask you this: Can you dedicate some hours to sitting down, reading a manual or two and not rushing through things?

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some hours = 3 in total really

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@zinc beacon

zinc beacon Feb 20, 2020, 7:58 PM

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I absolutely could
Is it truly that quick?

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 7:59 PM

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aye

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it would require that someone like myself is around when you do build thou, most likely on a voice/video call with you, but it is simple enough

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the important part is "dont rush"

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@zinc beacon see above

zinc beacon Feb 20, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Thank you so much.

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 8:01 PM

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do you have a rough estimate for when you would potentially be buying parts?

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(i am not US based, so your tax return dates are like black magic to me)

zinc beacon Feb 20, 2020, 8:03 PM

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End of the month to the beginning of March more than likely. Is 16GB of ram a ridiculous request or is it 8GB more than enough?

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 8:03 PM

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16 is the norm

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you actually asked at a really good time, we quite literally just finished talking about another 1k build

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v4Dfx6 <- keep in mind, this is not final, but it is something that COULD be done

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just to give you an idea about things @zinc beacon

zinc beacon Feb 20, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Thank you im gon a check it out now

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 8:06 PM

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best of luck

stoic island Feb 20, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Oh and naed, this was my suggestion for the 1k build, but what would you suggest swapping the mobo out for? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rbNWJb

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because that mobo isn't 3rd gen compatable afaik when I checked manufacturer page

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 8:07 PM

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that works for the bottom line @stoic island

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as in, close enough, there are options at the same price

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but that psu has to go thou :)

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but again, as mentioned above, it is a start

stoic island Feb 20, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Hmm? that PSU was tiered at B+

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same lvl as corsair cx

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lemme check again

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Hei was not exactly enthused about it

stoic island Feb 20, 2020, 8:08 PM

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ah lemme see

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oh wait

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I see where I went wrong

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gd 2017 is B+

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gd 2019 is B

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I can't find reviews on it, so I can't say much

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Most interesting thing is I can't find a source from the LTT tier list

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@cursive wharf Can you supply some more information on the topic?

cursive wharf Feb 20, 2020, 8:15 PM

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There are a few GDs out there. Think there might be 7, different regions get different ones maybe. V1 is 2019 and is missing UVP/OTP, has a low quality fan iirc, maybe something else. No real reviews on it so can only go be paper specs

stoic island Feb 20, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Ah I see

little osprey Feb 20, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Idk what to do now... I finished my build. I have windows 10 on a USB, but idk how to boot that...

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foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 9:28 PM

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@little osprey move the usb stick to the first spot

little osprey Feb 20, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Wdym?

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 9:28 PM

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look at the picture you linked

little osprey Feb 20, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Mhm

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 9:28 PM

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see where it says boot priority?

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(upper middle)

little osprey Feb 20, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Or the one with the "U" on it?

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foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 9:32 PM

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save and exit

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if that does not work, try with the other usb (the one with the U)

sudden turret Feb 20, 2020, 9:33 PM

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cant just spam F12 during start ?

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 9:33 PM

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@sudden turret depends on board

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it can be anything from F8-F12

little osprey Feb 20, 2020, 9:33 PM

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MSI B450 PRO

sudden turret Feb 20, 2020, 9:34 PM

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typically F12 or F2

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 9:34 PM

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@little osprey focus on what you were doing.

sudden turret Feb 20, 2020, 9:34 PM

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F11 for MSI

foggy hazel Feb 20, 2020, 9:35 PM

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you are it @sudden turret i am going to bed :)

little osprey Feb 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

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📎 20200220_163600.jpg

lime forge Feb 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

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ooh, i have that bios

little osprey Feb 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Okay. This is fine so save and exit?

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Do I need to spam any buttons?

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(Like F11?)

lime forge Feb 20, 2020, 9:37 PM

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are you booting off of USB?

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if you already set the boot order, no

sudden turret Feb 20, 2020, 9:37 PM

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shouldn't now that you rearranged the order.

little osprey Feb 20, 2020, 9:37 PM

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D;

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There I think I fixed it pretty sure

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@foggy hazel ?

upper condor Feb 20, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Yes @little osprey

little osprey Feb 20, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Okay... So how do I save and exit?

still roostBOT Feb 20, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Galerus#8315 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little osprey Feb 20, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Brick?

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What word did I use...

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I'm scared I'm going to brick my Build

stoic island Feb 20, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Nah

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Damn it I forgot where it's at in the old bios

sudden turret Feb 20, 2020, 9:57 PM

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F10

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save and exit

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lol

little osprey Feb 20, 2020, 10:00 PM

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📎 20200220_170042.jpg

sudden turret Feb 20, 2020, 10:01 PM

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that's just showing what you changed.

little osprey Feb 20, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Alright I'm gonna exit it

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F10 Save and Exit

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AYE

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sudden turret Feb 20, 2020, 10:09 PM

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once you install, you might have to go back into bios and change it so harddrive is first priority

little osprey Feb 20, 2020, 11:23 PM

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It is not detecting my HDD

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So...

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Forgot to plug it in

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Kek

upper condor Feb 20, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Big brain

loud apex Feb 20, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Rgb gives fps

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Where can I get Microsoft10 for free

upper condor Feb 21, 2020, 12:22 AM

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@little osprey not allowed here

sudden turret Feb 21, 2020, 12:34 AM

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@upper condor

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or give him the url

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facepalm

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@little osprey https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

upper condor Feb 21, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Well yeah, though he meant like a free key

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My bad @sudden turret @little osprey

mint tendon Feb 21, 2020, 12:55 AM

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if windows isn't authorized how invasive is the watermark?

deep skiff Feb 21, 2020, 12:58 AM

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📎 remove-activate-windows-10-watermark.png

mint tendon Feb 21, 2020, 12:58 AM

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can you change wallpaper still?

upper condor Feb 21, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Yes, but have to do something different

mint tendon Feb 21, 2020, 12:58 AM

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wym?

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when I build my PC I'll prob buy a code on g2a or something

icy plume Feb 21, 2020, 1:12 AM

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can't say i blame you

tranquil dust Feb 21, 2020, 1:30 AM

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you can right click on the image you want as your desktop and select "Set as desktop background"

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in case you didnt know

shut rampart Feb 21, 2020, 11:23 AM

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I'm sad

upper condor Feb 21, 2020, 1:00 PM

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@shut rampart why

ripe olive Feb 21, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Hey guys I need a bit of help with a build

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I was on this discord a whiiiilee ago, but recently came into a substantial amount of money

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And wanna make a new list

cursive wharf Feb 21, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Prices change over time anyways due to deals and changes in the market. So a new list should be made anyways if you were one to plan the build many months in advance

ripe olive Feb 21, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Ok

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Im planning on ordering in the next 2 weeks

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Budget is around 6000, dont wanna spend that much

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I want 1440p-4k gaming at 144hz if possible in that budget

cursive wharf Feb 21, 2020, 1:53 PM

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I mean if it's a just gaming the PC itself is like 1.8k as going more doesn't do much. Unless you do some video encoding/rendering/something else, or need a bunch of storage, or want water cooling, etc, then budget will increase for the PC. Then there is monitors/peripherals

ripe olive Feb 21, 2020, 1:53 PM

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I do need a monitor

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And yes, just gaming and streaming

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But professionally I hope

cursive wharf Feb 21, 2020, 1:55 PM

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So then just PC and monitor? Pretty high budget for just that as a note

hearty fern Feb 21, 2020, 1:55 PM

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What

ripe olive Feb 21, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Thats max

hearty fern Feb 21, 2020, 1:55 PM

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$6k

ripe olive Feb 21, 2020, 1:55 PM

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But obvs I dont wanna spend that much, but I can

hearty fern Feb 21, 2020, 1:56 PM

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So can you answer if its the entire setup, or just the monitors

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Nvrmd

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Desks too or...?

ripe olive Feb 21, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Monitor and desktop

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Or two monitors for streaming

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But I dont know what I need to achieve 1440p144hz max settings

ripe olive Feb 21, 2020, 2:20 PM

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@hearty fern

hearty fern Feb 21, 2020, 2:23 PM

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I mean, with a budget of nearly half that you can get a 3900x and 2080 ti, along with an ips 4k 60hz for video editing abd a 144hz one for gaming

polar fossil Feb 21, 2020, 3:02 PM

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oh

shut rampart Feb 21, 2020, 3:32 PM

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I'm sad that my PC part isn't up to daye

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Dates

cinder crown Feb 21, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Honestly I wouldn’t spend more than $3k on a good gaming streaming setup

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Always upgrades available if that path ends up being a profitable route

still frigate Feb 21, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Is $2000 range good enough for a editing/rendering PC or should I go higher?

upper condor Feb 21, 2020, 4:00 PM

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@shut rampart wdym

stoic island Feb 21, 2020, 4:15 PM

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God damn people have a lot of money today

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Usually it's making lists for 1000$

cursive wharf Feb 21, 2020, 5:04 PM

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@little osprey what is the build for? Gaming, something else? As the 2.5k USD one given already can be optimized

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Probaly gaming / streaming

cursive wharf Feb 21, 2020, 5:05 PM

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just the PC? Or need a monitor as well?

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Just oc

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Pc*

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And water cooling if you could

sullen spoke Feb 21, 2020, 5:06 PM

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aio or custom

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Doesn't matter

cursive wharf Feb 21, 2020, 5:14 PM

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@little osprey Here is one with a custom loop
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/767grV

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Eh, I guess I should try changing mobo so that you can OC the 3900x decently well

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Yeah

sullen spoke Feb 21, 2020, 5:18 PM

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ROG

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Hey

cursive wharf Feb 21, 2020, 5:19 PM

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@little osprey There you go. Better mobo, about $10 more tho
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GbNTZf

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Im torn between the gigabyte b450 Aorus pro WiFi mobo and the msi tomahawk max mobo . Because of bios update out of box . Was curious if I get a WiFi adapter for the tomahawk max , will it instantly install the drivers when I connect it to the usb or will I have to find the drivers and install them

cursive wharf Feb 21, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Aorus Pro WiFi is just better then Tomahawk

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 5:21 PM

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@little osprey hello again.

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:21 PM

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@foggy hazel How you doing man.

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 5:21 PM

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fine, was just waiting on you to finish typing.

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:21 PM

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I wish they just had the Aorus pro WiFi at bestbuy so I could see it on the box before I bought

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I was told by gigabyte that it should have the updated bios out of box but Newegg wasn’t sure

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 5:23 PM

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yes, because they dont track things like that.

sullen spoke Feb 21, 2020, 5:23 PM

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depends how long it has been in stock i guess

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Thanks

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Oh

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?

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 5:24 PM

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it has to do with the question of them using "first in, first out" in the warehouse.

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if they do, not a problem.

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if they dont? its a dice roll

cursive wharf Feb 21, 2020, 5:24 PM

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The seller (Newegg I assume) should be able to verify tho. They should, because that means making some money for a bit of work

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 5:24 PM

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they cant @cursive wharf

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i have asked them

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Yeah they told me to contact gigabyte directly

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Which I did and that guy told me it will support amd 3rd gen out of box it’s just knowing if the ones shipped out have it or not

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Which I’m sure they do but just a risk that would set me back if it didn’t work in my favor

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And Ik they put it on the newer stocks boxes if they do support it but I have no way looking at a box online .

cursive wharf Feb 21, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Im surprised Newegg has no note system where you can put a note on a customers order for "make sure to get 3rd gen supported" or smth of sorts

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so whoever looks into the inventory to ship will see said note

sullen spoke Feb 21, 2020, 5:28 PM

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ask @royal pelican lol

cursive wharf Feb 21, 2020, 5:28 PM

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They already have

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Yeah Newegg isn’t much help at all . Atleast the people they have you talk too

cursive wharf Feb 21, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Newegg has no implement thing for testing it, or knowing anything

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:29 PM

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@foggy hazel That ram got delivered today

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But only reason i was looking into the msi tomahawk max is because they sell that at my local bestbuy and even on there website it says it supports 3rd gen out of box

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Newegg says it does too

cursive wharf Feb 21, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I wonder if you request for the item to be from newest of stock if they can do that (basically making sure it's 3rd gen ready by being new stock)

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 5:31 PM

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msi has 1 big advantage, you can update bios without cpu and ram

cursive wharf Feb 21, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Tho I mean, AMD does lend free CPUs tp upgrade

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just takes a bit

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Yeah I prefer the Aorus pro WiFi but just the bios is a issue .

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Is there any plug and play WiFi adapters ?

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I’ve read that windows 10 will automatically download the drivers for a WiFi adapter when you first plug it into the usb but I’m not sure if that’s true

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Because I won’t have have a way to connect to the internet without WiFi and I won’t have a disc drive either

cursive wharf Feb 21, 2020, 5:38 PM

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I'd advised against USB WiFi

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At least a cheap PCIe add in would be better

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Also, is Newegg the only option for the board? You can always ask another seller

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As it's seller dependent as to whether they can properly check or not

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whether they do first in first out on stock

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 5:39 PM

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@little osprey please try and run the logic of this through your mind :)

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:40 PM

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I’ll see before I place the order for mobo

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 5:40 PM

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"I’ve read that windows 10 will automatically download the drivers for a WiFi adapter when you first plug it into the usb." <- how? how exactly is it going to connect to the internet to download anything?

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Because Most things you plug into the usb downloads drivers instantly for it like keyboreds and stuff Atleast it has for me in the past

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But I don’t have much experience with windows 10

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 5:41 PM

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no, that is not "downloading" that is loading from the "already there" banks of drivers

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Ah okay

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 5:42 PM

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and this is not isolated to windows 10

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its a logic problem

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if you come to a locked door, you need the key

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the key is the internet connection

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Gotcha I’ll shoot for the Aorus pro WiFi I was thinking about taking my pc to build at my parents house that way I could direct connect the internet because where I’m at now isn’t possible with where the router is at

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 5:44 PM

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:)

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what you can do, if you are worried about things, is when you have made the windows boot usb stick. Download the drivers for the mainboard onto that stick. it is what most other people do :)

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Can you do that with bios update as well?

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Throw it on a usb stick

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 5:46 PM

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yes, but it wont do you any good on the gigabyte board

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because it would require something you dont have.

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Older cpu

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 5:46 PM

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a gen 1/2 cpu.

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yes.

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Alright I figured that . If things don’t work out with the Aorus pro I’ll just return that and pick up the tomahawk max

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Hopefully I get a newly stocked one 🤞🏻

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@foggy hazel I’ll have all the parts within 3 weeks

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 5:53 PM

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or you can pickup something else :)

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and good to hear @little osprey :)

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Most of the other mobo with WiFi that support 3rd gen out the box are pricey unless you know of one under 200

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 6:00 PM

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anything msi will work, because, as i said, their boards can update the bios without a cpu

little osprey Feb 21, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Alright I’ll look into it, thanks again man always appreciated !

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 6:03 PM

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as always, you are very welcome :)

stoic island Feb 21, 2020, 6:10 PM

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MSI b450 board masterrace

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Jk

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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it is a feature that i hope gets adopted by all the other vendors

stoic island Feb 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Yea

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I would've bricked my board if not for the bios flashback thing lol

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Never mess with CPU memory values

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I saw memory and thought ram, and placed in values accordingly
Bad bad idea

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 6:13 PM

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well done

stoic island Feb 21, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Yea... Not my proudest moment

slow robin Feb 21, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Has anyone here used an xfx graphics card before?

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 7:48 PM

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yes

upper condor Feb 21, 2020, 8:26 PM

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@slow robin it depends on which one, but whats the question

stoic island Feb 21, 2020, 8:50 PM

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@foggy hazel what happened to your techie role

sullen spoke Feb 21, 2020, 9:07 PM

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it was yeeted and deleted

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lol

upper condor Feb 21, 2020, 9:07 PM

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OoF

sullen spoke Feb 21, 2020, 9:08 PM

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we needed a new regular with the loss of tomie

slow robin Feb 21, 2020, 9:47 PM

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@upper condor well I'm thinking of getting an rx580 but I'm kinda nervous cause I don't want to end up with a doa card

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 9:51 PM

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DOA can happen with any card @slow robin

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that is just statistics 101

slow robin Feb 21, 2020, 9:51 PM

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I'm guessing it's all luck then

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 9:51 PM

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all you can do is make certain you buy from a vendor with a good return policy

slow robin Feb 21, 2020, 9:52 PM

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I'll definitely do that thanks

foggy hazel Feb 21, 2020, 9:52 PM

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you are very welcome, best of luck @slow robin

vestal cove Feb 22, 2020, 2:23 AM

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First match on

icy plume Feb 22, 2020, 3:22 AM

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@lyric thistle mr. freeze would also be a poor choice, he would freeze your pc entirely

lyric thistle Feb 22, 2020, 3:22 AM

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😔

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hire Mr Freeze and Jack Jack

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and position them in the room based on your temperature needs

icy plume Feb 22, 2020, 3:23 AM

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hmm

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or lather your room in paint in the hopes of pleasing the RGB gods

icy plume Feb 22, 2020, 4:33 AM

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are there any benefits to vertical mounting your GPU or is it just an aesthetic thing?

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:35 AM

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its better for water cooling apparently

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other than that, just aesthetic

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i have mine vertical mounted, i LOVE the look of it and my temps are good

latent bronze Feb 22, 2020, 4:36 AM

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So he says

icy plume Feb 22, 2020, 4:36 AM

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lol

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y'all are nutty sometimes, i swear-

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:41 AM

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ecks

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my temps are good

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never hitting above 70 is good.

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under load.

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idle 40.

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half a centimeter from the glass.

latent bronze Feb 22, 2020, 4:43 AM

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idle 40 wuuut

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:44 AM

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with Fan stop on

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so

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the fans arent spinning at all

latent bronze Feb 22, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Bet if it was mounted horizontal you would of been like 28 idle

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:45 AM

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see, i would test that theory, but im too lazy to open my pc up because there is no reason to since my temps are fine.

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who cares if idle is 40 if it never hits 70 under load

deep skiff Feb 22, 2020, 4:45 AM

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tl;dr dont vertical mount unless you watercool

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:45 AM

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sigh

deep skiff Feb 22, 2020, 4:45 AM

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thank you for coming to my tedtalk

latent bronze Feb 22, 2020, 4:45 AM

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So wait you never hit 70 or you never hit above 70

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:46 AM

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ive never hit above 70

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vertical mount hides the relatively ugly portion of your motherboard and looks amazing

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so like

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yep

deep skiff Feb 22, 2020, 4:46 AM

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it looks bad change my mind

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:46 AM

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you paid for all that rgb, show it off :D

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especially for strix cards.

deep skiff Feb 22, 2020, 4:47 AM

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wuuut

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:47 AM

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am i wrong?

deep skiff Feb 22, 2020, 4:47 AM

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idk i dont vert mount mine

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:47 AM

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do you have an evga card?

latent bronze Feb 22, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Performance over looks anyday

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:47 AM

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see ecks

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that is an opinion

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so like

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yeah

deep skiff Feb 22, 2020, 4:47 AM

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that could be noctuas slogan ngl

latent bronze Feb 22, 2020, 4:48 AM

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performance is an opinion?

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:48 AM

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no

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performance over looks is

deep skiff Feb 22, 2020, 4:48 AM

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vertical mounting is stupid cause u need a riser cable

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:48 AM

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why do you think people buy apple? their opinion is looks over performance

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keyword opinion

deep skiff Feb 22, 2020, 4:48 AM

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cause they need things on macos 🤨

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like final cut pro and that stuff

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:49 AM

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im talking about the majority of users who just do web browsing and stuff

sullen spoke Feb 22, 2020, 4:49 AM

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macs don't look that great to everyone

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:49 AM

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sigh

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i started another debate

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anyways

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vertical mount is pretty cool for the extra $40, some will say that your thermals wlll die, but i know 2 other people with vertical mounts and air cooled cards and they havent had issues.

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keep in mind there are brackets that hold it away from the glass too

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but then it takes all ur pcie slots lol

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they do sell longer pcie cables though, if you wanted to wrap around other expansion slots

latent bronze Feb 22, 2020, 4:50 AM

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You forgot to add in the yet after issues

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:50 AM

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my statement is not wrong

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they have not had issues

latent bronze Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 AM

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yet

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 AM

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that is also true

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but i do not have to add yet

deep skiff Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 AM

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the only reason to vertical mount is watercooling or sandwich style cases

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 AM

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because my statement is true

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looks

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is a reason

latent bronze Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Well your statement is half true

deep skiff Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 AM

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yeah a pretty bad reason

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 AM

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no its completely true, they have not had issues. had as in the past tense.

latent bronze Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 AM

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which is why people add in the yet

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 AM

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why are we debating this

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it adds nothing to the conversation

deep skiff Feb 22, 2020, 4:52 AM

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look its more expensive for basically nothing end of story

lime forge Feb 22, 2020, 4:52 AM

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its just nitpicking everything i say

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and its honestly super annoying

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now im going to sleep.

deep skiff Feb 22, 2020, 4:52 AM

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yeah cause ur a mod were supposed to do that :v

latent bronze Feb 22, 2020, 4:53 AM

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It is not nitpicking because there is a lot of people in the tech world that doesn't suggest using a GPU vertically unless you're using it in a waterloop or the GPU is a hybrid card

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half a centimeter as well is hardly any air going into the card

sacred obsidian Feb 22, 2020, 4:55 AM

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i verticle mount and my thermals are max 60 under load.

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its fine

latent bronze Feb 22, 2020, 5:00 AM

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But you're not suffocated your GPU are you

sacred obsidian Feb 22, 2020, 5:10 AM

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its verticle mounted in a case that comes with verticle mounting, pretty close to the glass panel. the thermals are fine but i also have a ton of positive pressure so theres no reason why there wouldnt be plenty of air getting to it.

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 5:30 AM

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i'd like to have comments on this build, it's what i plan buying in the next month or so... i had a budget of 1500 (cad) originaly but i think the extra 4-500$ is worth it! other than wating for deals, could i cut in the price somewhere without loosing too much performance? also, the 5700 xt seems great but the reviews says : horrible GPU or fantastic one... so is the 2060 super would be a better choice for the same price? the RGB and all this is not important for me, only performance and the RTX in game is not important too! https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/M8BJp8

System Builder

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 5:42 AM

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@idle jacinth you still online?

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 5:48 AM

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yep

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 5:48 AM

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couple of questions for you

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your audio gear, is it usb or mini-jack based?

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 5:49 AM

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not buyed wet! probably gonna be mini-jack cause it's my last priority

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 5:50 AM

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reason i ask is that if you are going mini-jack, it would not be a bad idea to get a board with at least a good soundchip on it

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next question

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you planning on doing any streaming?

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(also, reason for the questions is the modified build list i am working on for you) [edit: is]

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 5:52 AM

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im open for suggestion for the mother board, it's juste the best / price i found that support 3600 ram...

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i may stream a little but just for fun, nothing serious!

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 5:53 AM

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okay

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next question

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is silence super important to you?

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 5:54 AM

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half and half... i don't mind having a system that not super quiet, but i would like to have something that is not loud as farm fan in my house lol

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 5:55 AM

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fair

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next question:

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you planning on trying to OC the cpu?

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 5:56 AM

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probably not! i like a good stable system that don't require to look at temps and all

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 5:56 AM

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fair

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next question:

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do you want/need wifi?

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 5:57 AM

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would be great to have it but it will be wired so not an obligation

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 5:57 AM

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last question:

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does the board have to be ATX?

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 5:59 AM

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only requirement is 4 slot, 64 gig and compatible with ddr4-3600 ram

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the case was choosed to work with the noctua nh-d15 that i'd like to keep for sure!

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:01 AM

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fair enough, just be aware, much as i personally like the d15, it is a fair amount of change being used on it

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:01 AM

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what do you mean?

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:02 AM

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the money you use on it, could be used somewhere else

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that is all i am saying

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the only thing it really gives you is absolute silence

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and it does deliver on that front.

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in spades

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:03 AM

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okok but if it's a question of 25-30$ (cad) i'D prefer to keep it... cooling is probably one of the last thing i'd want to cheap on it

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:04 AM

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fair enough, i just prefer to inform you about it upfront

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:04 AM

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fair enough

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:05 AM

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give me a moment to find a gpu, and i have a list for you

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:05 AM

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great thx!!

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:05 AM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/kW7BzN <- this shuffles things around a bit

System Builder

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lets take it from the top

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cpu is the same, cooler is the same

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mainboard has been changed, it has wifi and a good soundchip

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i know it doesnt say on the spec page for the board, but it supports up to 4400mhz ram

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so, you are fine with 3600

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ram is a slightly faster version of what you had, for a slight amount more, the extra cost is imo worth it.

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ssd has been changed, same performance for cheaper

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Hdd has been changed, better and cheaper

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GPU has been changed, faster and more convenient for streaming

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case was kept the same

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psu was changed, more reasonable wattage, the other was overkill

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ODD was kept the same

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any questions @idle jacinth ?

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and sorry for the info dump :)

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:12 AM

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is the SSD as reliable than the 970 evo?

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:12 AM

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yes

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:13 AM

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and the psu was a 850 for the possible futur upgrade and longevity

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:13 AM

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what you are paying for, is brand name basically.

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you can run a top of the line system on a 550 watt system

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with room to spare

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yes, i know, 850 is a bigger number, but you really really dont need it.

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:14 AM

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ok ok and being honnest, is the gigabytes GPU is reliable? had bad comments...

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:14 AM

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it is fine

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but, keep in mind, there is nothing that protects you from random faults.

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:15 AM

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and why nvidia and not amd for the GPU? only for the streaming or it will really be easier to use?

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:15 AM

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it IS mass manufactured parts we are talking about

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the streaming side of things is just pure convenience, the way they do things in regard to that is just simpler to setup

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and as things stand at the moment, things are wonky on the amd side with drivers

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:17 AM

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okok that's what reviews said too!

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honnestly for a 50$ difference i think you optimised it at max! thx!!

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:18 AM

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https://noctua.at/en/mainboard/MSI_B450_Gaming_Pro_Carbon_AC <- this is something you might not have thought about, the cooler also has to fit the board

Noctua

Designed in Austria, Noctua's premium cooling components are renowned for their superb quietness, exceptional performance and thoroughgoing quality.

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and the d15 does fit on that board

stoic island Feb 22, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Can confirm.
I got a d15 on that board

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:19 AM

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great! now i just need to hope for great deal in the next month lol

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:20 AM

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best of luck, and do make certain you keep an eye on the actual product numbers/model numbers when buying the parts

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the HDD especially, because the not so good version is just one number off

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:20 AM

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ok i will keep an eye on this!

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:21 AM

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also, if you scroll down the list

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you will see a warning

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about the bios.

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you can safely ignore that one. Because even IF your board shows up with an old bios, you can update it without a cpu installed.

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(that is btw a feature exclusive to that board (and select others) from msi)

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:22 AM

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ok nice!

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and for the sellers... is there some i need to avoid?

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:23 AM

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based on what i know about other builds i have made over the years for Canada? not really.

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keep an eye out for shipping ofc

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it is easy to be cheapest in item price if your shipping is 20cad higher than number 2 on the list :)

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if you dont know, on the list, if you click on the product itself (not the buy button) you will get a list of sellers that offer that product

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/t797YJ/msi-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac <- how it looks for the mainboard fx

MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:24 AM

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yep for sure i will keep en eye on the shipping side! but some (like mike's computer) has horrible reviews lol

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:25 AM

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i dont see any products being sold from them on the list (as the cheapest option at least)

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one last thing to note:

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with that mainboard, i would actually recommend that you go mini-jack for your headphones

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with that said, anything else you would like to know?

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:27 AM

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nope thx! i don't think we can do really better without lowering the performance!

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:27 AM

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not really no

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i have a question thou

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do you really need a optical drive?

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(i am just curious)

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:29 AM

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not really, but for the price i but it if i need it for x or y reason like drivers of other

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:29 AM

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you wont need it for drivers,

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anything that comes on a cd in the box is outdated anyway

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windows is done from a usb stick

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but ofc, it is your choice :)

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:32 AM

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indeed but hey.. on a system of 2k cheaping on a 24$ optic... lol

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:32 AM

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aye aye :)

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and i will give you this notice up front, if you show the list to others and they complain about the board or the psu. please just tell them to come here and have a chat :)

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:34 AM

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lol ok

stoic island Feb 22, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Hey Naed, is that board the cheapest option in Canada? Because usually I see cheaper boards available in the US.

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:34 AM

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with wifi and the good chip? yes

stoic island Feb 22, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Ah I see

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:34 AM

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and last question... is the ram is low enough for the noctua?

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:35 AM

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also, the no-cpu boot bios update carries weight/value too

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yes, it wont be a problem @idle jacinth

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:36 AM

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ok great!!

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:36 AM

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you can after all decide where to place the fans on the d15 :)

stoic island Feb 22, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Checked it, you might need to move the second fan like I did

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:37 AM

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which wont matter one bit if you do

stoic island Feb 22, 2020, 6:38 AM

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The ram height is 42mm, but d15 with second fan over ram slots has 32mm clearance

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Yea, that's the reason I did it :)

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:38 AM

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you can easily run with only one fan if you want too

stoic island Feb 22, 2020, 6:38 AM

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That too

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I moved my second fan forward to the front

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:39 AM

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aye

stoic island Feb 22, 2020, 6:39 AM

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Image thingy

📎 IMG_20200207_194220.jpg

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:40 AM

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so, just to make certain, no more questions @idle jacinth ?

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:41 AM

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nope! but now that i see the noctua... gosh that's HUGE LOL

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:41 AM

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oh yes

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and good :) good luck on the build when you get the parts.

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and if you have questions down the line, drop in or throw me a pm

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just know that i am in europe, so timezones etc

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:43 AM

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great!! big thank!! just for fun, evga vs gigabyte for gpu, service and reliabili?

stoic island Feb 22, 2020, 6:43 AM

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There's always someone around, for better or for worse.

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:43 AM

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its a wash

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as i mentioned earlier, its all mass manufacturing

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i have been doing this for long enough that i have had expensive parts from supposed superior companies break in a week and cheap parts from supposed shoddy companies last a decade or more [edit: week]

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:46 AM

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okok but it was more a question of : in general is one better than the other and the after sell service

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:46 AM

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as i said, its a wash

stoic island Feb 22, 2020, 6:46 AM

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What exactly does "a wash" mean?

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:46 AM

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doesnt matter

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:46 AM

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ook

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:47 AM

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is basically what i means, hm, yeah, now that i think about it, that phrase might be really old by now :D

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just shows my age i guess

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:47 AM

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lol

stoic island Feb 22, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Well, it could be just not a thing in the US

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:47 AM

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also that

idle jacinth Feb 22, 2020, 6:48 AM

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neither in canada lol

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 6:48 AM

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:)

cursive wharf Feb 22, 2020, 7:50 AM

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Its a wash, as in its a mix due to mixing dirt and water/soap/whatevs? My random guessing here for what it means

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 7:50 AM

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aye

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another take could be "it all comes out in the wash"

cursive wharf Feb 22, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Yeah with that take I'd never be able to guess it well

upper condor Feb 22, 2020, 12:54 PM

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And Im already stumped

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Go me

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 2:56 PM

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@upper condor about the above?

upper condor Feb 22, 2020, 2:57 PM

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No, that was a while ago and I fixed it

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But I do have a question

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 2:57 PM

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ask away :)

upper condor Feb 22, 2020, 2:58 PM

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I have 2 things that say "D-RGB FAN" and "M/B D-RGB 3-pin"

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And there doesnt appear to be anywhere they go om my mobo

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 2:58 PM

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i know next to nothing about rgb stuff

sudden turret Feb 22, 2020, 2:58 PM

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digital rgb

upper condor Feb 22, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Yes

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But there is no room on my mobo

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So do I just not get rgb for those fans

sudden turret Feb 22, 2020, 2:59 PM

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what do you mean, no room

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 2:59 PM

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@sudden turret different way of saying 5 and 12v rgb?

sudden turret Feb 22, 2020, 2:59 PM

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yeah it's just marketing.

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 2:59 PM

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ah

upper condor Feb 22, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Should I send pictures of them? Its a 3 pin and then inside out 3 pin

sudden turret Feb 22, 2020, 3:00 PM

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3 pin is ARGB

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 3:00 PM

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mainboard model would be more helpful perhaps?

upper condor Feb 22, 2020, 3:00 PM

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B450 tomahawk

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There is something that says jrgb1

sudden turret Feb 22, 2020, 3:00 PM

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so if you have fans that are argb, should be good to go

upper condor Feb 22, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Yes i do, but will there still be rgb if I cant plug that in

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 3:01 PM

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there should be 2 12v connectors on that board.

sudden turret Feb 22, 2020, 3:01 PM

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not on your fans.. no

foggy hazel Feb 22, 2020, 3:01 PM

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and that is the limit of what i know :)

sudden turret Feb 22, 2020, 3:01 PM

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but if the mother board has rgb, then its just software controlled.

upper condor Feb 22, 2020, 3:02 PM

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:(

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But thats a reason I got this case....

sudden turret Feb 22, 2020, 3:02 PM

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I think you're confused

upper condor Feb 22, 2020, 3:03 PM

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I think I am

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There is a button on the front of the case that changes the rgb

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That plugs in

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So will I just not be able to use adressable?

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Im fine with that

sudden turret Feb 22, 2020, 3:04 PM

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from the case, is it 4 pin?

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📎 unknown.png

upper condor Feb 22, 2020, 3:05 PM

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📎 20200222_150534.jpg

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This is them

sudden turret Feb 22, 2020, 3:06 PM

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so yeah, you can't plug those in.

upper condor Feb 22, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Dang it

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Ok ill turn it on and see what happens

sudden turret Feb 22, 2020, 3:06 PM

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what case is that

upper condor Feb 22, 2020, 3:10 PM

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P400

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Sorry psu stuff

sudden turret Feb 22, 2020, 3:11 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/1B4-00UT-00183?Description=3-pin to 4-pin rgb adapter&cm_re=3-pin_to_4-pin_rgb_adapter-_-9SIA7U1B0W8522-_-Product

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this might work

upper condor Feb 22, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Mhm

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Again, gonna see if I plugged something in that does it

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Idk

sudden turret Feb 22, 2020, 3:23 PM

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what

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don't try plugging it in to anything that isn't 4pin rgb

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it wont work, and will most likely fry your board.

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er 3pin*

upper condor Feb 22, 2020, 3:30 PM

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I didnt

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And no rgb

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Ill buy that then

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It booted and im in bios

inland atlas Feb 22, 2020, 7:41 PM

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I keep hearing thsi weird vibrating heartbeat like noise coming from pc

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I tried my storage and im hoping tis not my power supply

sullen spoke Feb 22, 2020, 7:46 PM

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can you identify which area of the pc it is coming from

inland atlas Feb 22, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Im thinking powersupply

stoic island Feb 22, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Can you like open it up while it's on to see where exactly it's coming from?

inland atlas Feb 22, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Def my powersupply

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but its not like the fan is bad its completely new

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Just vibrating.

stoic island Feb 22, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Could be the fan came bad

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Shouldn't be coil whine if the whole thing is vibrating

inland atlas Feb 22, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Ight thanks

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good thing came with 10 year warranty

subtle halo Feb 23, 2020, 4:00 AM

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xD

unkempt niche Feb 23, 2020, 5:19 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KhmzXv

System Builder

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I pretty much did this for fun but do you guys think this is a pretty decent build or no?

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Why are there 2 AIOs?

unkempt niche Feb 23, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Hm?

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:21 AM

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There's 2 liquid coolers in that list

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With only 1 CPU in the list

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Oml that's unbalanced

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RTX 2070S powering 2 1440p 165hz monitors..?

unkempt niche Feb 23, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Oh

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Ram should be 3600mhz

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Only a hard drive and no NVME SSDs?

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 5:23 AM

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jeez criticizing everything

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lol

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Yea sorry

unkempt niche Feb 23, 2020, 5:23 AM

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That’s okay

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:23 AM

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I might be on the offensive

unkempt niche Feb 23, 2020, 5:24 AM

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I am only 17 i barely know much about computers but i would like to learn more about them

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:24 AM

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It's simple to get into

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I guess I should start giving explanations for everything now

unkempt niche Feb 23, 2020, 5:25 AM

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I never asked for an explanation

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But okay

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 5:25 AM

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well here is one important thing from what you listed. HDDs or hard drives are very slow today, now we use SSDs or solid state drives which make the system much more responsive

unkempt niche Feb 23, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Ah okay

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:26 AM

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RTX 2070s as a GPU would only comfortably power one 1440p 165hz monitor

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 5:26 AM

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I mean I have a 2070 powering a 1080p 240hz panel and it's o k

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:27 AM

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That CPU is likely overkill, normal tasks would never take over 8 cores, so 16 cores is only useful for those that have heavy workloads.

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 5:27 AM

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I would get that cpu 😦

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Itech, would you say the average person doesn't fully utilise more than 4 cores or

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 5:28 AM

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I wouldn't go less than 6 cores in my opinion, but never under 4

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I mean the average person doesn't need 8 cores true

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Alright, so I believe a 3700x would work?

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 5:29 AM

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but 8 cores is still really nice

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Yea lol

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 5:29 AM

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If I were to upgrade now I am either getting a 9900k or a 3900x

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:30 AM

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My 2070 only barely keeps up with 1080p 144hz high/max settings

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So 2070s might not even be great for powering a single 1440p 165hz monitor

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Tho I could just have a bad 2070

unkempt niche Feb 23, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Alrighty then i will make some changes and come back

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Hopefully it’s not as bad as it was earlier

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Maybe my 2070 has superpowers NYEHE @stoic island

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Jk lol

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Huh?

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 5:37 AM

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I don’t play AAA games and when I play competitive game it is usually at medium or high

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:38 AM

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I have r6s on max except shadows and something else turned down to low, and I can get it to 240fps stable with that

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But with shadows and everything maxed, I chill at like 150fps

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Yeah I’ll admit it ain’t the best it could be, also doesn’t help that my cpu can’t keep up in some games, but it does a pretty good job

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Yea it does do a good job, but I still have some doubts for 1440p 165hz max

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I was actually planning on a 1440p monitor at some point, but decided that my GPU would need to be upgraded

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 5:41 AM

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The upgrades never end

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Ikr

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Ima grab a new keyboard this year, and next year a GPU and maybe a case

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 5:43 AM

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I need a cpu, cpu cooler, a case, a dac, a mic arm

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:45 AM

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What CPU you on rn?

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I really should get dac and amp and external mic and all, but I'm too lazy, so I'm chilling with a headset, and prob will be chilling with a headset

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Oh yea, something I found interesting is that Noctua ships free brackets for upgrading to new socket

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So I'm prob gonna chill with a d15

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 5:47 AM

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That’s cool

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I’m on a 8600k rn

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Seems good enough to last a good while

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 5:49 AM

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It bottlenecks in some games

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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@unkempt niche So this a gaming only build?

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Half an hour eh?

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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streaming, video editing, anything else?

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I guess

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more like 45 mins

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:06 AM

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They said they'll make some changes and come back 32min ago

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 6:06 AM

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I think it is more of just having fun than actually building something

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Yea

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But it is fun, at least to me

unkempt niche Feb 23, 2020, 6:10 AM

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@cursive wharf yee

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And sorry i got distracted by games

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:10 AM

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lol, tho answer the second stuff

streaming, video editing, anything else?

unkempt niche Feb 23, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Pretty much for gaming and doing homework

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:11 AM

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hw can very depending on classes

unkempt niche Feb 23, 2020, 6:11 AM

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I’d say my price point for a pc would be at least to $3000

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:11 AM

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just document writing more or less?

unkempt niche Feb 23, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Pretty much

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Researching and such

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And coding hopefully

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:12 AM

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coding anything specific?

unkempt niche Feb 23, 2020, 6:12 AM

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I will hopefully be taking a class that has to do with coding

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In my senior year so i would like for it to be able to code i guess pretty much basic stuff

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Likely not enough to warrant a more powerful CPU

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:23 AM

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want a ultrawide display or two displays?

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:23 AM

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(or, one Main monitor and one Secondary monitor for discord/other stuff)

sullen spoke Feb 23, 2020, 6:24 AM

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2 is very nice for productivity

subtle halo Feb 23, 2020, 6:27 AM

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$3000 for basic coding is ❤️

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two monitor is good also in programming

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one for ui one for code

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side by side

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:38 AM

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@unkempt niche This is the list I have done
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GLKTZf

System Builder

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:40 AM

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No price available?

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:41 AM

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what?

unkempt niche Feb 23, 2020, 6:41 AM

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@cursive wharf it looks very nice

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I have heard msi was good but also bad

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:41 AM

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MSI is meh

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Lot of their boards arent compelling unless for a specific need

unkempt niche Feb 23, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Ah

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Wierd

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The ASUS board shows up as "no price available" even tho it's in stock at b&h for 160$

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:43 AM

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isnt complaining to me

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Prob just mobile pcpp acting up

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:44 AM

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wouldnt be surprised

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:45 AM

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They might just want 2 1440p panels, idk, what panels they get depend on what their needs are

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:45 AM

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I mean... they are both 1440p

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just one is UW

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but yeah

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:46 AM

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(like I don't think I can fit an UW on my desk)

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:46 AM

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unless you have things at the side all you need to worry about is the stand tbh

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Yea I have things on each side, PC on one side, and a lamp on the other

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Could move both but too lazy rn

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:48 AM

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my lamp is sitting on a box to be above my monitor, cuz im UW gang

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:48 AM

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Lol

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:48 AM

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could make room on the side if I tried, but meh

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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I might stick to 16:9 for dem gaming purposes

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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21:9 for better gaming experiences

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if that floats your boat

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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More competitive gaming :p

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I'd say 21:9 is more immersive

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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I mean, more FOV generally speaking on UW

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so it'd be better for competitive would it not?

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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Well, in siege at least, it's common to turn the resolution down to 4:3 so everything is stretched

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:51 AM

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To keep everything closer to the center of the screen and move eyes less?

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or is it cuz FOV is done weirdly on siege where horz FOV is fixed and vert FOV changes?

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:52 AM

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That and 'stretch' each pixel to see stuff better

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Siege fov afaik is just horz. change

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Fov also usually not maxed out to 90

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Usual fov is around 82

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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Yee, im beginning to see how it works

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 6:55 AM

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Anyways, UW is prob quite a bit better for emmersive beautiful gameplay

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 6:56 AM

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yeah

little osprey Feb 23, 2020, 1:50 PM

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May I get assistances on picking out a " NEW TOWER " for my Build please an thank you

upper condor Feb 23, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Yes

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What specs rn

little osprey Feb 23, 2020, 2:32 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B2fCzN

System Builder

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Ehm

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That's....

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The FX processor is like 4 generations old

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And very expensive at that

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There was a 1000$ build somewhere brb

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VXMNYH

System Builder

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This one

little osprey Feb 23, 2020, 2:45 PM

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I just need a NEW CASE. Not worried about my part's right now

sudden turret Feb 23, 2020, 2:45 PM

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rofl

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Ah

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I thought you needed an entire tower lol

little osprey Feb 23, 2020, 2:47 PM

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NO the inside is good to go the Case on the other hand I need a New one

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Well, the phantech p400a is a nice case

little osprey Feb 23, 2020, 2:48 PM

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stand by

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Na pass on that

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 2:50 PM

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?

little osprey Feb 23, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Will this help " Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower
2 x USB 3.0 / 2 x HD Audio Front Ports
3 External 5.25" Drive Bays
7 (4 x 3.5" + 3 x 3.5"/2.5") Internal 3.5" Drive Bays"

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Is that what you need or..?

little osprey Feb 23, 2020, 2:51 PM

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That's what my Case Has right now an would like to find one that has that

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Why's that? You only have one 3.5in drive

little osprey Feb 23, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Evil laugh Cause im planning on having more HDD add

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 2:54 PM

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I think the focus g has a few bays

little osprey Feb 23, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Stand by

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Coolermaster H500 should also have a few bays

little osprey Feb 23, 2020, 3:01 PM

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All the case is good but it's lacking a few things

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Door that I can open an my CD/DVD Drive is there

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 3:04 PM

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its quite uncommon for modern cases to have bays for cd/dvd drive

sudden turret Feb 23, 2020, 3:05 PM

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yeah

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they are basically phased out and obsolete.

little osprey Feb 23, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Ok thank's for trying to help.... I'll keep the case I have then

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Should I look into a MC500 case or H500

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coolermaster

errant berry Feb 23, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Is a i5-9400f with a 1660 ti better or a ryzen 5 2600 with a radeon rx 590?

south hawk Feb 23, 2020, 4:47 PM

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imagine still using cd or dvd drives lol

nocturne sparrow Feb 23, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Any advice or critiques for this build? note I'm bringing a 1070 over from my current build.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xbpwmg

System Builder

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 7:55 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XHqbt6/thermal-grizzly-kryonaut-1g-1g-thermal-paste-tg-k-001-rs

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 7:55 PM

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@nocturne sparrow With a 1.1k build you can easily get those specs and a 2070 Super if you stop worrying so much about looks

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as a lot of money has gone to looks

nocturne sparrow Feb 23, 2020, 8:01 PM

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@cursive wharf a new gpu was not a consideration tho.

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Thermal paste is kind of meh that you picked

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 8:02 PM

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The thing is, with that budget you can get a PC that performs even better due to a 2070S being about a 1080Ti in perf

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So unless you like CPU heavy tasks, get a new GPU

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or need a hecking lot of storage

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Well hei, could you make a <1000 list focused on good perf without a GPU, and semi focused on looks?

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how I understand it is that they want to upgrade GPU later

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when next gen GPU drops

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 8:04 PM

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I mean it's basically this, but no GPU
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yZGTZf

System Builder

nocturne sparrow Feb 23, 2020, 8:07 PM

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for $12 more i would stick with the p1 but also I can acquire a 3600x for much cheaper than pc picker lists

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 8:07 PM

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changed mobo as it was pricy for what I assumed you needed or wanted
RAM is basically the same quality more or less but cheaper
The P1 is dramless and thus can suck super badly in some scenarios. Chose a non dramless one
GPU is well, GPU
case is meh
PSU is better

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dont go for P1

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:08 PM

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You do know you could sell the 1070 to make back money as well

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 8:08 PM

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they might just want an NVME ssd tho

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 8:08 PM

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If you want NVMe, at least go for DRAM or HMB

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not one that lacks both

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 8:08 PM

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whats the best price to perf 1tb nvme ssd as of now? prob not sabrent now since its more expensive

nocturne sparrow Feb 23, 2020, 8:09 PM

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yeah i do want a m.2 nvme

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 8:09 PM

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I mean sabrent wasnt the best price to perf ever i dont think. Use to be okay, now is not really

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but right now cheapest decent 1tb NVMe is this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/j8qhP6/mushkin-pilot-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mknssdpl1tb-d8

Mushkin PILOT 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

nocturne sparrow Feb 23, 2020, 8:10 PM

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also you aren't taking into account mine was a micro build

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 8:11 PM

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huh I keep remembering sabrent as 130$ xD

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M-ATX boards can fit in mid tower full ATX cases

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Isn't the WD Blue NVMe just as fast as that one for less money?

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 8:19 PM

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WD Blue NVMe?

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theres no 1tb option on the SN500 if thats what you mean

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the other m.2 wd blue is SATA 3

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:20 PM

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it is the 550 he is talking about

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:20 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-sn550-nvme-1tb/p/N82E16820250135?&quicklink=true no 1tb then?

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 8:20 PM

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wtf

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I searched it on newegg

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:21 PM

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also, there is a oem-only version of the 500 that is 1tb

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 8:21 PM

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this is all I get

📎 unknown.png

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:21 PM

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@stoic island now you know why it is risky to trust search functions on sites :)

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 8:21 PM

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yea

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huh

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:22 PM

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I used the search function and found the 1TB

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https://i.gyazo.com/a90c8b55e5aecb1a337962e48a56d258.png

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Ecks / i know :) the "how" is for @stoic island to have fun with

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bah, spoil sport

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:23 PM

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NYEHE

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 8:23 PM

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figured it out

nocturne sparrow Feb 23, 2020, 8:23 PM

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lol. but works for me. I search "wd blue sn550" and I see the 1tb in the results

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 8:23 PM

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I was searching sn500

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:25 PM

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If i was very productive in a lot of things i would be using this one https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-2tb/p/N82E16820250114

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 8:25 PM

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@nocturne sparrow well SN550 is still dramless anyways. But here is a new list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PnK9wh

System Builder

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SN750 is just overpriced. a decent 2tb NVMe is like $240

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$250 on Newegg, $240 on Amazon for a 2tb of same perf
https://www.newegg.com/mushkin-enhanced-pilot-2tb/p/N82E16820226891?Item=N82E16820226891

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:26 PM

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So how much would a good one be then

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:26 PM

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holy, that is one heck of a markup on that sn750

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it has a msrp of 250usd

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 8:27 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fkprxr/western-digital-sn750-2-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds200t3x0c

Western Digital SN750 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

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even amazon too

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:28 PM

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or is it me that cannot read... yeah, me that cannot read.

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sn750, msrp prices: 1tb = 250, 2tb = 499

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keep in mind, that was back in January of last year

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Prices can also jump up within a year

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i bought this a little over a year ago for 110$ and now the price is this https://www.newegg.ca/team-group-l5-lite-3d-1tb/p/N82E16820331115?Item=N82E16820331115

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:31 PM

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what is interesting about the prices on those sites, is the "before" one

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:31 PM

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That SSD is for my games pretty much

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Dumb question but i haven't used a standard hard drive in a system in a long time is this pretty decent to use just for things such as my downloads https://www.newegg.ca/seagate-barracuda-st2000dm008-2tb/p/N82E16822184773

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 8:33 PM

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@latent bronze I mean still $122 if on a sale
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=179_1088&item_id=124714

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:34 PM

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out of stock in my location

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well in my province in general

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 8:34 PM

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as for the seagate, I havent heard any issues of that. But I dont look a whole lot into HDDs

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also oof

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:35 PM

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the closest store to get that SSD https://i.gyazo.com/4487604263520b8737cc78f78b9a7c96.png

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I have been using SSHD and SSD's for a long time i haven't been in touch much for hard drives except when using it as externals

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Seagate 3tb has reliability issues is all I know

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 8:36 PM

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3tb is the major one, but some others too

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:36 PM

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@latent bronze yes, that seagate is fine, just be aware that there is a model with only 64mb cache, the one you have there is the 256mb one.

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:37 PM

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So the 256mb is what i should get then right

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:37 PM

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aye

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its the one that has a model number that ends in 8

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the 64mb one ends in 7

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:37 PM

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I have one that is a 64mb but i use it as an external so i never tried to use it as a internal drive

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:37 PM

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real effing easy to mix up

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wont matter all that much, but normally they are so close in price that you might as well :)

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Ya and the 3TB i just looked at is only 5400RPM

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:40 PM

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dont want that :)

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unless for "just" storage

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then it is plenty fine

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Well would be for things like downloading my anime

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:42 PM

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something to think about. I have setup systems where the download drives was laptop hdd

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simple for the lack of noise

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:42 PM

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but still 2TB is more then enough for me since on my hybrid i used before i never went past 800gb

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:42 PM

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it all depends on the use case in the end :)

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:44 PM

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The thing i don't understand is my older 1tb hybrid lasted me for like 6 years and it is still working fine but the FireCuda 2TB i have had it for like 2-3 years and it started making a clicking noise and also corrupting any files i would download (thankfully everything i had before that happened turned out fine)

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:45 PM

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well, that is mass manufacturing in a nutshell @latent bronze

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sooner or later your number comes up for having something that is just wonky

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Also the 1TB was the Momentus XT

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:46 PM

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aye

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:46 PM

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FireCuda i feel they cheap'd out on it

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:47 PM

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and i know that it is VERY tempting to say "its because of X Y Z!!!!!" it really isnt. it is "just" statistics

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ofc, once in a while there are legit bad batches of products.

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but it is not something that the manufacturers does on purpose

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Oh i know there are times that there would be a faulty product cause i have bought things in the past that came out bad but when i would replace it then it would be working

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:49 PM

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because it is just about impossible to get rid of the "i have heard that bla bla bla" rumours after that

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Also for that hard drive it looks like i will be going to my local PC shop instead https://i.gyazo.com/580cad19a5cd40423abef68679e1d3c4.png

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:50 PM

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aye

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as always, make certain you check the model number when you have it in your hands :)

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:52 PM

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I looks on the site all the one's ends with a 8 and not a 7

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:52 PM

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aye, just check when you have it in your hands :)

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for your own sake :)

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mistakes happen etc

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:54 PM

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You know what is surprisingly good for a gaming keyboard

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:54 PM

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whatever you like using?

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Be surprised from this

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https://i.gyazo.com/e1425a8a1cd14e4d95e447bbe42fa36e.png

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2 buddies of mine are using it and it is still working great

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:55 PM

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hey, if they like it, all the power to them for that :)

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Ya but most 7$ keyboards doesn't tend to look like that as well

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sure there is no RGB but still

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 8:56 PM

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I've been convinced to get a GMMK now

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instead of a corsair k70

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Im probably going for Wooting Two if I cant find an analog full keyboard that has better price to perf

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Next week
Mr1111 [#AirCoolingGang]
I've been convinced to get this now
instead of the GMMK

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 8:57 PM

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yea prob

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theres no end all piece of hardware

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Well cheap keyboards like that are useful when selling a full system

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 8:58 PM

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yea

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:58 PM

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heh, i have an old usb keyboard with a trackpoint integrated that gets used for just about all builds i make

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for the initial setup etc

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Look at this one that sold out for 5$ https://i.gyazo.com/da88057a357062a58bcb5b0adb28a5ca.png

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 8:58 PM

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simply for convenience

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Lot of people wouldn't think that is a 5$ mouse

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 9:00 PM

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looks wise is decent for price. But what about actual sensor quality, switch quality/lifespan, etc?

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Anyways i am looking for a new keyboard and will to try brands i have never used cause the A on my keyboard right now isn't working that great

viral ore Feb 23, 2020, 9:01 PM

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get a ducky keyboard

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my friends hold them in high regard

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and have used one before

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 9:01 PM

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@cursive wharf https://i.gyazo.com/f5b9823c160ac3edd7e5b7c55a0c887e.png

viral ore Feb 23, 2020, 9:02 PM

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thats not bad

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not great

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 9:02 PM

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doesnt say much tbh. You'd probobaly want some model numbers

viral ore Feb 23, 2020, 9:02 PM

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but for 5$

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 9:02 PM

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@viral ore let me rephrase that i am looking for a keyboard that is between 10$ and 50$

viral ore Feb 23, 2020, 9:02 PM

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ahh

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i see

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tkl?

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 9:02 PM

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but for $5 (CAD?) seems good

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 9:03 PM

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yes that mouse is 5$ CAD

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I feel tempted to try this out https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_273_274&item_id=100282

viral ore Feb 23, 2020, 9:05 PM

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cant go wrong for 17$

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ISO layout tho?

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 9:05 PM

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and it looks cool and full RGB

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 9:05 PM

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semi mechanical

cursive wharf Feb 23, 2020, 9:06 PM

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is that just "mechanical feel" that is a gimmick and basically untrue?

viral ore Feb 23, 2020, 9:06 PM

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i think its rubber dome with a twist

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 9:06 PM

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it gives the feeling of a mechanical

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I tried this one out and it actually felt nice https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_273_274&item_id=112774

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 9:07 PM

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mech boards are not the end solution to everything, it comes down to the preference of the user

viral ore Feb 23, 2020, 9:07 PM

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that looks like a laptop keyswitch

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if you like that, go for it, pretty neat

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 9:08 PM

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it looks like it but it doesn't feel like it

viral ore Feb 23, 2020, 9:08 PM

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oh

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whats the key travel like

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 9:08 PM

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I go to my store once in awhile and they had it on display so i tried it out

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it sort of feels like a standard membrane keyboard just not as high on the keys

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I have also played games on a laptop so i know the feeling of it doesn't feel like a laptop keyboard

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@viral ore the one keyboard i want to own i know i can never afford it lol

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https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_273_282&item_id=120160

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 9:12 PM

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its just 290

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not that bad

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Ya it is only money i don't have

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and will starve for a month

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 9:13 PM

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just a question of saving

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 9:13 PM

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I am already saving to replace my motherboard and CPU

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 9:14 PM

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there is no decree that says you have to upgrade everything at the same time Ecks :)

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Well this is what i am saving money for https://i.gyazo.com/45784af3c6a3815dfbf8227ea315fd1d.png

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I have a Ryzen 3 1200 so i can update the bios on that one to support 3000

viral ore Feb 23, 2020, 9:15 PM

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i put 600 into my keyboard, 290 is nuthin lol

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 9:15 PM

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and no that board doesn't have flashback

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 9:15 PM

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sassy what you have

viral ore Feb 23, 2020, 9:15 PM

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old keyboard

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 9:15 PM

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ah

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Is flashback MSI only or

viral ore Feb 23, 2020, 9:15 PM

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its been going 30 years strong lmao

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and has another 120

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 9:15 PM

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you WOT

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150 year warrenty or smth?

viral ore Feb 23, 2020, 9:15 PM

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no

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 9:15 PM

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there are some others that uses it but i looked up for that ASRock board and doesn't have it

viral ore Feb 23, 2020, 9:16 PM

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its just solid metal and plastic, with little that can go wrong

latent bronze Feb 23, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Besides if i was to sell my old CPU i would prefer to have it on the board i have now

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or put it in a case with like a 500w PSU and a GTX 1050 Ti

wispy matrix Feb 23, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Can someone help me find cheap dual monitors to stay under budget https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jBMtL2

System Builder

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1200

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 10:48 PM

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bruh

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thats not happening unless you grab like 60hz 720p monitors

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why not just single monitor

teal bison Feb 23, 2020, 10:51 PM

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ya 1080p 60fps 1ms is like $100

deep skiff Feb 23, 2020, 11:20 PM

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yust get a 1080p 144hz panel

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 11:24 PM

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@wispy matrix https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JH2sV7

System Builder

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a fairly major shuffling around of parts, but 1209 usd with 2 monitors. It is not goint to be super pretty, but it is what you asked for.

icy plume Feb 23, 2020, 11:27 PM

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and remember not to include the mail in rebates as a deduction, they're a bad idea if you want to be able to return it, should it prove defective

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 11:29 PM

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@icy plume if you mean in general? yes, agreed.

icy plume Feb 23, 2020, 11:29 PM

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yes

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 11:29 PM

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there should not be any counted in what i linked :)

icy plume Feb 23, 2020, 11:29 PM

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exactly

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Naed said 1209 USD, the list is 1209 USD before rebate.

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 11:33 PM

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@stoic island i think you might want to read the conversation again :)

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 11:33 PM

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I'm blind okay

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Don't judge me

icy plume Feb 23, 2020, 11:33 PM

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lol

foggy hazel Feb 23, 2020, 11:33 PM

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:)

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hey, blame it on them eyes

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traitors that they are

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going blind first and all

stoic island Feb 23, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Hey, it's close enough to the brain

coarse coral Feb 23, 2020, 11:34 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/jashinchan-dropkick-evil-smile-smug-evilness-anime-gif-13119047

Tenor

icy plume Feb 23, 2020, 11:34 PM

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theo stop scaring me