#building-and-recc-chat

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upper condor
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Wht version u using

little osprey
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the adrenaline 2020

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20.1.4

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had to go find it

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@upper condor

round river
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I bought a new bluetooth dongle and when I plugged it in, it says "device cannot start (code 10)"
any idea how I can fix this? Ping me if you answer

sacred obsidian
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@round river after a quick google search, I found this:
Click Start, type CMD, right-click on it and select Run as Administrator.
In the elevated Command Prompt, type regsvr32 /u btmshellex.dll, then press Enter. This will unregister the dll file.
In the elevated Command Prompt, type regsvr32 btmshellex.dll, then press Enter. This will register the dll file.
Once done, restart your computer.

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or you could find the bluetooth device in the device manager and try to update the driver

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i would probably try the second option first

clear kindle
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hi

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i need some help

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my computer comes in friday and i have no clue how to plug everything in

foggy hazel
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this might sound like i am not willing to help. However. i am quite serious.

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Read the manual of your mainboard

clear kindle
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what is that

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my actual computer part has not cane in yet

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i have the moniter right now

foggy hazel
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do you have a list of your parts?

clear kindle
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uhhh no

foggy hazel
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is it a pre-built?

clear kindle
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yes

foggy hazel
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then dont worry.

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cables only go one place

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doesnt matter if there are more than one option.

clear kindle
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i don’t know where everything plugs in

foggy hazel
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see what i said just above

clear kindle
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okay

wispy matrix
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It should be done already

foggy hazel
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@wispy matrix he is talking about power/display/usb etc

wispy matrix
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Oh

clear kindle
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yes ^

stoic island
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should be very easy

clear kindle
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everything is pre built

stoic island
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its prebuilt

wispy matrix
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That’s easy

clear kindle
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i just don’t know where everything plugs in at

stoic island
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don't worry

clear kindle
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then again i have been xbox for 8 years

foggy hazel
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as i said, just plug it in where it fits

clear kindle
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this is jt first ever computer

stoic island
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it's going to be easy

wispy matrix
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It’s like puzzles

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Plug it where it fits

clear kindle
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okay

stoic island
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yea one thing only plugs into one place xD

clear kindle
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but don’t force anything. or it will break?

foggy hazel
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it can handle a fair amount of stuff

stoic island
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ehh PC components are usually at least semi-sturdy

clear kindle
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okay

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i mean the cords

foggy hazel
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but just like you cannot plug a controller in the power plug on a console, the same goes on a pc :)

clear kindle
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okay

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so just look and see what it looks like and plug it in where it looks the same

stoic island
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the size of the things on the cords would prob be easy to just match up with the ports

wispy matrix
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Alright I got to go to bed guys gn

stoic island
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don't worry too much

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it takes a lot of force to break a connector accidentally

wispy matrix
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Just don’t stress to much

stoic island
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I've tried to jam my GPU into my PCB once

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idk why

wispy matrix
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Lol

stoic island
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I just didnt see the pcie slot

wispy matrix
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That’s like putting a triangle in a square

stoic island
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yea lol

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and it did no damage

clear kindle
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i’m gonna be putting a anither ram slot soon because this only has 8gb ram

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is that good or bad

foggy hazel
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dont worry for now

wispy matrix
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Don’t worry until you get it

clear kindle
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okay

foggy hazel
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just start enjoying your machine and take a look down the line :)

wispy matrix
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I’m soon going to build mine just waiting for taxes

clear kindle
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i hate how new i am

wispy matrix
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I’m new also lol

clear kindle
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like i can set up an xbox in 30 seconds

wispy matrix
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Still learning

clear kindle
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then again it’s 2 cords 😂

foggy hazel
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@clear kindle dont worry about it.

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just dont rush :)

clear kindle
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okay

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i am gettubg it at 4:30 on friday

wispy matrix
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Just worry if something doesn’t fit

foggy hazel
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hey, a pc is only 4-5 plugs :)

clear kindle
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then i have till 9

stoic island
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Well your PC should only be like 3 cords

wispy matrix
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Yeah it should be fine

clear kindle
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i have like 6 cords that my monitor gave me

foggy hazel
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@stoic island you might want to count that again :)

wispy matrix
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That’s for keyboards and mouse

stoic island
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Only like 1 needs to be plugged in

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Oh yea

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Perphials

clear kindle
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my keyboard and mouse comes with the computer

stoic island
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I was just like HDMI, and the 2 power cables

foggy hazel
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psu/display/keyboard/mouse <- base 4

stoic island
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Yea

clear kindle
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i’m nervous i’m gonna mess it up.

foggy hazel
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no no, that is the monitor, that is a seperate thing

stoic island
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Nah man it's easy

foggy hazel
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@clear kindle there is nothing to mess up

clear kindle
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once i connect it to wifi am i good to go

wispy matrix
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Yeah

stoic island
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Console and PC aren't THAT different

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Its all fairly straightforward

clear kindle
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i have to download like steam first off right

foggy hazel
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ask about things like that when you have the system running

clear kindle
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okay

foggy hazel
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dont worry about it now

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you cannot do anything right now anyway

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run on the walls or get a hobby or something until the machine comes in :)

stoic island
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Have a good time

foggy hazel
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@little osprey a bit easier to have a chat about it here

little osprey
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Aight

sacred obsidian
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STEALIN MY CUSTOMERZ

foggy hazel
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yes

sacred obsidian
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nah naed is gud lol

foggy hazel
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no, i am not god

sacred obsidian
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i said gud

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not god

little osprey
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Understandable the issue still confuses me though

foggy hazel
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(gud = god in danish)

sacred obsidian
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oh

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i didnt know that

foggy hazel
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now you do :)

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@little osprey from the top.

sacred obsidian
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gud = good in english txt chat whatever you call

foggy hazel
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what kind of a build is it?

little osprey
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Lemme get the part list for ya/

foggy hazel
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cheers

little osprey
foggy hazel
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@sacred obsidian i know, i am mainly running with your chain and giggling

sacred obsidian
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lol

foggy hazel
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@little osprey please understand that my questions might seem silly, but i cannot read your mind.

sacred obsidian
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oof dat ram

little osprey
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Nah I completely understand silly

sacred obsidian
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is going to bottleneck the cpu right naed

foggy hazel
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is the machine actually turning on?

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@sacred obsidian not important now

little osprey
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Yeah the entire machine is turning on

foggy hazel
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is your monitor saying "no input detected"?

little osprey
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And he's looking into different ram. This was the first build he owned and he knew what could possibly happen. And yeah

foggy hazel
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you have tried flipping through the source selector?

sacred obsidian
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i was looking into the ram to make so mobo supported it lol. i wasnt sure but its fine

little osprey
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Yeah

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Yeah the mobo supports it

foggy hazel
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that first yeah was on the source selector question?

little osprey
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Yes

foggy hazel
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okay

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you tried different cables?

little osprey
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Two different known working cables

foggy hazel
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without the current one being connected that is

little osprey
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Yes no other cable was connected.

foggy hazel
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and you are certain that the monitor actually works?

little osprey
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Yes he was just using it for his PS4 before we started the build

foggy hazel
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okay

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then we come to what Deaf was talking about in the other channel

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trying to figure out what exactly is "wonky"

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which exact ram slots are you using?

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closest to cpu = slot 1

little osprey
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I tried what the motherboards manual had instructed which was the furthest

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I tried switching them to the ones closest and it didn't do anything.

sacred obsidian
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it should be in 2 and 4.

little osprey
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That's what they were initially in. That's what they're in now

foggy hazel
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any option for you to test the GPU in a different machine?

little osprey
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I have my current rig but I'm not sure where any of the power cables are

foggy hazel
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eff that, you can just place them close by each other

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and use his power for it

sacred obsidian
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can you just swap your gpu for that gpu?

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oh

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good idea

little osprey
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I never thought about that

foggy hazel
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it will be wonky as all hell, but it will work

sacred obsidian
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yeah me either

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look at naed go

foggy hazel
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that is option 1

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and that is the simplest thing

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option 2 is this

sacred obsidian
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now i know how naed became techie.

foggy hazel
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re-seat EVERYTHING

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and i mean everything

sacred obsidian
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everyone always argues with me when i suggest that lol

foggy hazel
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yes, technically the case connectors dont have to to be unplugged. for this? it doesnt matter.

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everything = everything

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this is obviously a PITA to do. hence why it is option 2

little osprey
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Makes sense

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I'm going to try option one first

foggy hazel
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there is an option 1.5

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which involves your system

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try his ram in yours

little osprey
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Okay

foggy hazel
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but, remove your own first

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do NOT run them at the same time

little osprey
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Yeah XD

foggy hazel
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just in case etc etc

sacred obsidian
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while i wouldnt do that anyways, what bad could happen if you do?

little osprey
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Okay I'm gonna shut off my PC I'll let you know once I get it running again if it worked or not

sacred obsidian
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sorry im also here to learn 😛

foggy hazel
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while you are testing his ram, also do a 1 stick test

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first in his machine, then in yours

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as in, currently he has stick 1a 1b in his

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try running with just 1a

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then with 1b

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does that make sense @little osprey ?

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@sacred obsidian in theory, nothing bad can happen. In theory.

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i have fried ram from stuff like that before, where the sticks i was moving around potentially had been birthed from pure evil and chaos or something. because they royally effed up every system we placed them in

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"stuff" happens is the takeaway

sacred obsidian
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couldnt that theoretically mess up his system then?

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ive had things do that to my pc but never a ram stick lol

foggy hazel
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we didnt fry the boards

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it was just IF we had other ram in there

sacred obsidian
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oh okay

foggy hazel
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they are still on the "wall of weirdness" at that office (this was a good 10 years ago)

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i think they got labelled "the ones that dont play with others" or something like that

sacred obsidian
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lol nice

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what do you do btw? i know a little but barely any

foggy hazel
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i solve problems that other people would rather they didnt know about

sacred obsidian
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that sounds sketch

foggy hazel
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its what my cards say :)

sacred obsidian
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im intrigued lol

foggy hazel
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exactly :)

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a different way to say it could be like this. I am a problem solver

sacred obsidian
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can i ask more or is it secret stuff?

foggy hazel
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you can ask more if you want

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it is my choice if i want to answer thou :)

sacred obsidian
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well im curious about the, "that other people would rather they didnt know about" part

wispy matrix
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Naed how much is a decent pc

sacred obsidian
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depends on location

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about 800 in US

foggy hazel
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@wispy matrix depends on what you are doing

sacred obsidian
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for gaming lol

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you can get by on 500-600

wispy matrix
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Gaming and designing and some other stuff

foggy hazel
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800 ish seems to be the spot for "reasonable" at the moment for the US market. IF buying new and with an eye towards upgrading down the line

wispy matrix
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Ok thx Just wanted to know

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Well gn naed

foggy hazel
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gn @wispy matrix

little osprey
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Okay so I just got done doing all the tests except for completely stripping it down and re-building it but we're most likely going to do that tomorrow since it's near midnight for us.

dusky flax
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Anyone have any Idea how I would go about mounting a Gpu and a Psu flat to a 1" thick wood board if I wanted to do a wall mounted PC. Gpu is a 2080ti with a water block.

cedar portal
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The GPU should be relatively easy, don't most PCI-E riser extention/vertical mounts include a base for screwing it down to the case?

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If you are going to the extreme of a wall mounted case, you could probably cobble something together from a sacrificial case to get a PSU mounting arrangment of some kind.

elfin stone
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I need to buy myself a wifi card and was wondering if this was any good

quick stream
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I have rx 570 4gb on my PC, and I am planning to put it on my old 2nd PC, and buy new one for my main PC. I have 1080p 144hz monitor and not planning to upgrade high end monitor Which is worth to buy?
rx 580 8gb = 173$
rx 5600 xt = 326$
RTX 2060 6gb AMP = 309$

ember sierra
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The rtx 2060 is the best of those cards and in within the cards, the performance does make a difference. I think your prices of rtx 2060 and 5600 xt are confused tho?

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@quick stream

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So if all card’s price is within budget, take the best one. RTX 2060. Look at these benchmarks and decide which one is better for you.

lavish agate
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Whats a good cpu to pair with a 1080ti

vivid atlas
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Intel or AMD ? @lavish agate

latent bronze
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@lavish agate R7 2700 or R5 3600

dapper briar
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Hey guys I need help

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My pc is not turning on

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It's lights are on and the NZXT cooler but when I switch the power button it doesn't turn on

gusty niche
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Anyone got a 5700 xt?

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I am planning on getting one but I saw that it's got driver problems so Idk if I should buy it or not

dapper briar
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Well I do have a RX 5700 XT but my PC is not turning on

sudden turret
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is it a fresh build

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turned on previously?

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if fresh build, did you test components before you installed? @dapper briar

dapper briar
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No

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I didn't do it yet

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Maybe my front panel connector are installed wrong

sudden turret
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yes, check them.

dapper briar
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The motherboard lights are on and the cpu cooler

sudden turret
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labels faced down

dapper briar
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Still nothing

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What shall I do now?

foggy hazel
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@dapper briar what exactly are you trying to do?

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because based on the picture, everything is doing what it is supposed to (and what it can do with the components present)

dapper briar
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I am trying to turn it on

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But when I press the power button it won't start

foggy hazel
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you pump and everything else is getting power, that comes from the PSU being active

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the psu being active means that the power switch has been triggered

tulip shore
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Check your connections to your monitor and GPU maybe you don’t have those plugged in so you’re not getting signal

median sail
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Turn on the pc plays pornhub themesong

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👌

foggy hazel
median sail
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poutylily fine but you prob laughed @foggy hazel

upper condor
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Bo pu ch pu pu chhhhh

foggy hazel
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@upper condor same to you. Both of you want help at times. Do remember that.

median sail
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I keep getting so much hate for my bottom rad even tho it doesn’t matter that much ilyhmph

dapper briar
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@foggy hazel What shall I do now? The PC doesn't want to boot up. (Hard Drive Noise, GPU fan spinning, case fans spinning)

foggy hazel
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lets take it from the top @dapper briar

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your monitor reacting at all?

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or is it just saying "no signal"?

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@tulip shore looked like you wanted to say something?

dapper briar
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No signal

foggy hazel
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@tulip shore fair talk :)

sudden turret
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plugged into gpu correct?

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not the mobo header.

dapper briar
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Yep

upper condor
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Is the board you have updated to the newest bios? @dapper briar

dapper briar
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My Case also has leds won't turn on

foggy hazel
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congrats @sudden turret you are it.

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@dapper briar direct all questions to @sudden turret :)

sudden turret
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dont

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I'm headed out myself.

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lol

foggy hazel
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then keep quiet next time :P

sudden turret
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-.-

dapper briar
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These the specs:
i5 9600k
Asus Strix H270F
Corsair Vengence 2x8GB 3200Mhz
Corsair Carbide 275R
ASUS TUF RX 5700XT 8GB
600W EVGA

foggy hazel
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okay, back to basics we go

sudden turret
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one stick of ram, go

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ok now im gone

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😄

dapper briar
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Alright I will remove 1 stick

foggy hazel
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keep in mind, i cannot read your mind, so some of these questions might seem silly. But have patience.

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wait a sec on that

dapper briar
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Alright

foggy hazel
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you have already checked that everything is seated/plugged in all the way right?

dapper briar
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Yes everything is plugged

foggy hazel
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okay

sudden turret
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wait

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he said h270f?

dapper briar
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Yes

upper condor
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Yeah uhh

sudden turret
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is i5 9600k even compatitble?

upper condor
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I dont think its updated

sudden turret
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Intel®️ Socket 1151 for 7th/6th Generation Core™️ i7/Core™️ i5/Core™️ i3/Pentium®️/Celeron®️ Processors
Supports Intel®️ 14 nm CPU
Supports Intel®️ Turbo Boost Technology 2.0

  • The Intel®️ Turbo Boost Technology 2.0 support depends on the CPU types.
  • Refer to www.asus.com for CPU support list
foggy hazel
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@dapper briar did you only update the CPU in your build?

dapper briar
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It's a new build

foggy hazel
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or is it new all the way through?

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okay

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then you might be in for a bit of "fun"

dapper briar
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Okay

foggy hazel
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2sec

dapper briar
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Okay

foggy hazel
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who put together that system in the list phase of things @dapper briar ?

dapper briar
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I did

foggy hazel
dapper briar
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This is the one I have

foggy hazel
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yes, now click the link

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now find the cpu you have

dapper briar
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Alright

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Not there

foggy hazel
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yes

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sorry to inform you, but that means, that your mainboard doesnt work with that cpu

dapper briar
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But if it didn't work I should see something on the monitor

sudden turret
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no

foggy hazel
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no

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run that logic through one more time

dapper briar
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What about the case fans?

sudden turret
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that board will not take it.

foggy hazel
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that is just "power"

sudden turret
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there is no other way around it to make it work

dapper briar
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Do I need to bios update it?

sudden turret
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doesn't matter

foggy hazel
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you cant

tulip shore
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You need an entirely new board

foggy hazel
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that is the list i linked you @dapper briar

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that is what that board can support. WITH a bios update

sudden turret
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that board will not take anything newer that 6 gen

foggy hazel
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7th @sudden turret

dapper briar
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Ah it's fine I can return either the cpu or motherboard

sudden turret
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close enouth

dapper briar
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I just got it today

sudden turret
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better off getting a new mobo

foggy hazel
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@dapper briar the board is what you want to return.

tulip shore
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Plus if you do get a new board since it’s an Intel try to find one that has a “Z” in the name that way you can unlock the overclocking potential since it’s a 9600K

dapper briar
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Alright thanks

foggy hazel
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best of luck

mild roost
upper condor
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Bad

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Get rid of all rgb, and change the aio to nothing just use stock

mild roost
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I can’t tell if ur joking or not. Cause of ur name

rich void
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$140 for a water-cooler for a $170 processor that comes with a good enough stock cooler seems perverse to me

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Why not just get a 3700x instead?

mild roost
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I was thinking on it. I might change it

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This is my first build. Still learning

rich void
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I'm no expert either, just my 2 cents. A beefier than stock cooler would be good, but I just am not convinced by high cost coolers when you could instead grab a higher tier part for the same cost

foggy hazel
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@mild roost at a quick look at that list, you are currently spending about 280-ish dollars on things that either only give you light or a brand sticker

rich void
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@foggy hazel are the parts in question the exact model gpu, case, and aio? Just for my own edification

foggy hazel
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let me just revert a a cpu, so you can see my suggestion

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which his cpu choice and the others things (that i mentioned) removed/stripped

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that is the result

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so, 1079 vs 1476

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i was fairly close on the estimate :)

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-ish :D

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admittedly, i had not noticed the silly price of the case the first go around (when i said the 280-ish number)

upper condor
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@mild roost whats the max budget

foggy hazel
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@mild roost see just above this

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that is a fairly significant upgrade on all fronts

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the ssd is a sidegrade, but a tiny bit cheaper

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and not something you will notice

mild roost
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i have a 1tb hdd iin my old pc with windows 10 on it, so i might just take it out and add it to my new pc, so i dont have to spend money for windows but i might get an M.2 ssd 500Gb to transfer.

foggy hazel
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a hdd cannot be compared to any ssd currently on the market

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so that is highly recommended.

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and the cloning is simple to do

mild roost
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so should i keep my hdd just for more storage after tranferring to an ssd?

foggy hazel
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aye

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a fairly traditional setup at the moment is having a ssd for os/games-that-like-fast-storage and a hdd for everything else

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the logical upgrade to that is going m.2 for os/games and a 2.5 ssd for everything else, but that will obviously cost a bunch more

rich void
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Thanks @foggy hazel, I am planning to build in like 6 months so I am just trying to get a feel for things. I know exact components may change a lot in that time, but it's helpful to see how you balance each part

foggy hazel
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@rich void when you get closer, like .. 1 month away from buying, come and have a long chat about things :)

rich void
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Will do

foggy hazel
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not that what you are doing now is not a good thing. Just that being closer will give actual examples etc :)

mild roost
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how can you tell what mobo u have without tearing it aprt? i cant find it anywhere, not even where i bought it. cause i can maybe use my mobo for my new pc

upper condor
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Current cpu?

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R?

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Ah yes, I love that one

mild roost
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Radeon RX 560 series, its from Ibuypower

foggy hazel
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that is the GPU

upper condor
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Cpu

foggy hazel
upper condor
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Not GPU

foggy hazel
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have a go with that one

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just grab the zip, download, unpack, run

mild roost
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ohh my bad

foggy hazel
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it will tell you

upper condor
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@foggy hazel is there a specific reason that people use cpu-z over task manager?

mild roost
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AMD FX-8320 and it came with ddr3 ram

foggy hazel
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@upper condor amount of info

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@upper condor try and run it, and you will see what i mean :)

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@mild roost not happening, that is the AM3 socket

upper condor
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Yep sorry

foggy hazel
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my bad, am3+

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nothing to be sorry about @upper condor

mild roost
foggy hazel
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it is a nice practical tool for getting a bunch of info, if you are doing support for someone that doesnt know the back and front of their machine from their own nose

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@mild roost long story short, the only thing i personally would recommend moving over? the hdd.

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IF you like the case, you can most likely use that too, but i would honestly recommend just getting a new one. and letting a younger brother or something get that machine above

mild roost
#

thats what i was thinking

upper condor
#

Maybe case fans? Probably not

mild roost
#

wanna buy a pc without an hdd that aint so good? jk lol. the money will go for a good cause for builing my new pc.

foggy hazel
#

as i said, a younger brother or cousin or something

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only thing they would have to invest is a new hdd/ssd

mild roost
#

yea ik someone who might buy it.

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i still want to keep the corsair case and aio, that this look great and its a good brand, cause ik some people that has aio's that leaked and basically turned their pc to a fish tank lol

upper condor
#

Just dont use an aio? They are a waste at your price point

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And the case is also a waste, better options for cheaper @mild roost

foggy hazel
#

@mild roost ask yourself this: what do you think you will gain by way of the AIO?

upper condor
#

Besides looks

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And noise

mild roost
#

idk, maybe that'll be a fun challenging build. Can i add the aio later on if i build it without it?

stray pine
#

@viral ore Which Asus Tuf mobo is that?

upper condor
#

@mild roost yes you can, but why if you can buy an aircooler for literally half the price with similar performance

foggy hazel
#

@mild roost you are not really answering the question :)

mild roost
#

idk man, ur making me overwhelmed and making me complacent life lol

upper condor
#

Contemplate?

stray pine
#

oh wow!? whats going on here?

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lol

mild roost
#

yea, that word

stray pine
#

no bueno

mild roost
#

we are discussing my build setup @stray pine

stray pine
#

you have a build?

#

do i need to go way back up to read?

mild roost
#

yea its far back there but their help im making a new one, almost done

stray pine
#

nice!! what specs?

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parts

mild roost
#

hold on, will post list soon

stray pine
#

aww sad face....

upper condor
#

@stray pine he wants an aio

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We are asking why

mild roost
#

whats ur opinion on an aio snake?

stray pine
#

hmmm... i see

mild roost
#

would u add an aio or not, due to the brand and rgb? @stray pine

stray pine
#

ummm welll..... WHY?! lol

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whats your main use for the system/

upper condor
#

Gaming I think

stray pine
#

one sec on a call

mild roost
#

yea gaming

upper condor
#

Link ur list @mild roost

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And max budget

mild roost
#

max is ig, $1500

stray pine
#

okie dokie. im back

upper condor
#

1500 max, gaming

foggy hazel
#

@upper condor scroll up, see his first build

stray pine
#

talkin coolers right?

foggy hazel
#

or use the search button, his name and contains a link

mild roost
upper condor
#

@mild roost no

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That ram is overpriced, and so is the case

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Same with psu

stray pine
#

AIO cooling is cheaper than custom liquid cooling. At the same time, it is still more expensive than air cooling. As the in-between option, it is a great choice for those who would like an alternative to air cooling without spending the additional money for a custom liquid cooling system.

foggy hazel
#

you forgot the context of "IF you want to OC" @stray pine

stray pine
#

There's a difference in db lvls ludness of fans as well

foggy hazel
#

CLC is basically useless for anything but that

upper condor
foggy hazel
#

@upper condor way over spec on psu.

stray pine
#

i have thought about liquid cooling in general. i havent personally used it in my rig yet.

upper condor
#

Yes, he had 750 before so maybe he wants it

stoic island
#

No GPU lol

foggy hazel
#

he doesnt know black from blue at this point.

upper condor
#

550 or 650 will be more than enough though

mild roost
#

psu , i know, i need to change it. the case is a must, it looks really good and its a good size, unless there is a another case similair that looks good and has 3 fans already built into it. the ram, ill only buy one of them and then another later on. and its cheaper than naeds list, he had ram that was the same for $30 more

upper condor
#

Not the same

foggy hazel
#

it was NOT the same

upper condor
#

Better timings and speed

foggy hazel
#

it was 2 * 16 for 160 total

stray pine
#

is that link for what @mild roost is building?

upper condor
#

Yes

mild roost
#

oh yeah, misread that

stoic island
#

What's overall budget?

upper condor
#

That case is so overpriced @mild roost, please dont get it

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@stoic island 1500

stoic island
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Oh then that's meh

foggy hazel
#

yeah, also, IF you actually read both links i posted, then you would notice that the first link was way cheaper

stray pine
#

i would choose either WD or Samsung for yoru NVME

foggy hazel
#

@stray pine overpriced.

stray pine
#

you really only need about 256gb stick

foggy hazel
#

no

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just no.

upper condor
stoic island
#

Rmx is actually a really nice PSU afaik but

upper condor
#

Here is @foggy hazel old suggestion

foggy hazel
#

that is the second one, the one that actually uses the budget

stoic island
#

OS?

mild roost
#

actually corsair 2* 16gb is $165, only like $5 more

stray pine
#

best use of a hybrid drive for everything else. or a larger ssd. performance fo gaming isnt something you will see on the m.2 drives

tardy olive
#

Anyone use Pizza Hut Rewards here? @ me if u do

upper condor
#

@tardy olive i so

stoic island
#

and G.skill is higher frequence, and better timings

upper condor
#

Do

stoic island
#

lower latency, and faster

stray pine
#

that ram is what im ussing personally

stoic island
#

also 3700x is prob gonna be better

stray pine
#

its freaking good stuff

foggy hazel
stoic island
#

3800x is 50$ more for prob 1% more perf

foggy hazel
#

which is a stripped version of what you originally started with @mild roost

stray pine
#

i went with the 3600x due to budget. havent looked back

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so far what hes got in that link is pretty solid

foggy hazel
#

@stoic island 3700x vs 3800x 309usd vs340usd

stoic island
#

Still a large gap for little difference

stray pine
#

i would just get the 3800 over that price dif

foggy hazel
#

for a system running stock on it all? it is a fair trade.

mild roost
#

will all that stuff fit inside that case @upper condor

stray pine
#

if it were like a $70 hike i wouldnt do it

upper condor
#

Yes @mild roost

stray pine
#

what mobo you getting

upper condor
#

I have it

stoic island
#

Well, I'll need to check stock freq and stuff then

#

I have the 3800x, I seriously think it doesn't perform that much better than a 3700x, at least if you push both of them

foggy hazel
#

3,6 vs 3,9

stray pine
#

im sure that phantek fits an atx

upper condor
#

It does

stoic island
#

Alright then

stray pine
#

@stoic island agreed. not much difference

stoic island
#

Though boost clocks

upper condor
#

Eh

stray pine
#

@mild roost what mobo you looking at?

stoic island
#

expensive mobo tho

upper condor
#

Mine?

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It is, but high quality

stray pine
#

nvm i see the link

mild roost
#

dont know. im down to having a list of only the 3800x, ssd, and phanteks case

stray pine
#

i got the low end tuf x570

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and still capable of lots even though its low end

upper condor
#

Dont get an x570 @mild roost unless going for pcie gen 4

stray pine
#

i should have spent the addtional $20 for the wifi

mild roost
#

the phanteks case does look good, and has better ratins so ill go with that

stray pine
#

bro

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look up Lian Li II

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you will more than likely love that case

#

lots of versatility

stoic island
#

Okay so in which ways is that board higher quality?

stray pine
#

only $80 i thinlk

upper condor
#

@stoic island than what?

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90

stoic island
#

the asus b450m

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I had to check sound chip just in case if that was what you were on about, its basically the same chip

stray pine
#

i only got the x570 for futurewise. i dindt have to get it

upper condor
#

Its soundchip, wifi, and looks

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Not saying you cant change it

stray pine
#

the b450 is a great choice

upper condor
#

Just a placeholder

mild roost
#

ilike phankets better, i like seeing th fans in front

stray pine
#

tomahawk b450 max if what i would get

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MSI

stoic island
#

It's an ALC S1200A and an ALC S1200VB lol

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basically same soundchip

#

wifi maybe if thats what they need

upper condor
#

@stray pine eh the tomahawk is just ok

stoic island
#

theres many ppl that only need ethernet

upper condor
#

I regret getting it over other choices

stoic island
#

the Max boards used to be a great choice when they were one of the only ones with guaranteed bios

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now its most of them

upper condor
#

Exactly

stray pine
#

im sure any of the other boards are great as well. just need bios updates... i was personally looking into easy peazy lol. the lazyman way hahah

stoic island
#

I dont think the storage is enough unless I'm missing context?

latent bronze
#

There are A320's now that are Max versions lol

stray pine
#

if thats the only storage hes getting its def not enough.

#

if hes only using it for os and a few programs then its fine. but games kill SSD's

upper condor
#

He has an hdd from old build

stoic island
#

ah

stray pine
#

i got 500gb nvme and one 500 ssd and both got filled fast with just main programs. now all my other stuff is going to an old toshiba h1tb hdd

latent bronze
#

Since now A320's also has the whole PBO2 it is not that bad of an option for a budget board

stray pine
#

i recently moved all my files to hdd and left main stuff on ssd to free up half the space

#

they bogged down real quick like

stoic island
#

I was gonna slap in a d15 into that build just for the lols then I realised

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p400a cant fit a d15 xD

mild roost
#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CFbkHB so this is what i got, i have no idea on mobo, should i go with asus? and then video card i have no idea. and lastly what wattage do i need for it?

stray pine
#

@mild roost i know its expensive. but i would def go to at least 2tb of ssd or look into t a 2-4tb seagate hybrid gaming sshd

upper condor
#

@mild roost STOP WITH THE RAM

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Its bad

stoic island
upper condor
#

Its the exact same

stoic island
#

with an u12s

upper condor
#

With a u12

stray pine
#

whats bad @upper condor

stoic island
#

its 3200mhz

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when the one we link is 3600mhz

#

ryzen 3rd gen likes faster memory

stray pine
#

i have the ripjaws 3600 and they work great

stoic island
#

3600mhz is the sweet spot

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I have trident z neo 3600, they work great

mild roost
#

why is it bad? they are the same thing as ripjaws v 32 gb but like $5 more?

stray pine
#

yea 3000mhz or higher

mild roost
#

corsair is 3200 tho

stray pine
#

32 gb is over kill TBH really only need about 16gb bro unless you are some sort of video editor

upper condor
#

Mhm

stoic island
stray pine
#

save some dough right there

stoic island
#

yea 32gb is overkill

#

I do some slight video editing thats why I have 32gb

stray pine
#

i had 32 in my last rig and i never came closer to even using 1/3 of it

stoic island
#

I do use 16+ pretty often nowadays bc I can be careless with how much I use

stray pine
#

with ryzens workload cpu you wont have too much issues even on 16gb

#

but its your money

mild roost
#

ok i changed to ripjaws 16gb

stoic island
#

make sure they're 3600mhz cl16

mild roost
#

they are

stoic island
#

Good

mild roost
#

mobo, video card, gpu?

stoic island
#

Video card = gpu

stray pine
#

all on pref there my man

#

hehe

stoic island
#

GPU technically is only the processor on the video card, but most people use them interchangeably

stray pine
#

1660 ti is good for low budgets. but you can always step into a 2070 super or higher

mild roost
#

i meant power supply

stoic island
#

I think 1500$ warrents a 2070s

stray pine
#

get a psu that can give you about 650+

stoic island
#

Also the phantech amp 650w is good

stray pine
#

i got a 2060 super and i have no complaints runs everything

stoic island
#

Go 750w if you want OVERKILL but it's your decision

stray pine
#

yea ive seen some $100ish 750watt psu

#

thermal take has some. corsair

stoic island
#

I got a 2070 non super. Only complaint is that it prob won't run 1440p 144fps xD

stray pine
#

coole rmaster

stoic island
#

Look in pinned messages

#

That's a good way to determine psu

stray pine
#

oo thats a neat feature

stoic island
#

Ltt also has a good motherboard tier list

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But the wegg staff doesn't bother with pinning it anywhere

upper condor
#

Get the phanteks amp 750, 5$ more than the 650 rn

stoic island
#

Do that when cheap

#

Which it is cheap

upper condor
#

Btw sorry I was gone

#

broken foot sucks when uhabe to pee

stoic island
#

Oh yea I'm gonna have to redo my research on switches

#

Thought I had mx blues, but had some offbrand different blue

upper condor
#

Rip

stoic island
#

Sooo yea

mild roost
#

ok so i basically copied ur setup but its giving me a compatibility warning

upper condor
#

Falco paste it here

stoic island
#

It's like 2.7mm actuation point when mx blues are at 2.0mm

mild roost
stoic island
#

It's pcpp not liking b450 boards lol

#

Also you sure you want a 3800x?

#

Performance increase is negligible

#

And that's coming from a 3800x owner

mild roost
#

didnt see that it was a 3700

#

is there a major difference between 3700 and 3800

stoic island
#

Nope

#

Other than slightly higher clocks

upper condor
stoic island
#

Oh yea 750w psu

#

For like 5$ more

upper condor
#

Whtever

#

Its fine

#

Falco why are you planning then

#

What*

stray pine
#

looks alike asolid build now

mild roost
#

idk, igotta go tho. ill figure something out and post the link and pin it,so u can see

upper condor
#

Tbh id go with a 3600 2080super

stoic island
#

I mean if you can fit that in with the price, sure?

upper condor
#

Hep

#

yep

stoic island
#

Seems good

upper condor
#

Up to him

stray pine
#

yea. its a pretty steep hike in pirce

#

price

#

low end around $800 to about $1100 just for 2080

#

compared to your $570 for a 2070 super

sudden turret
#

lol?

#

you can find a 2080 for about 600

upper condor
#

Yeah

stray pine
#

tiny single fan ones

upper condor
#

No not rlly

stray pine
#

msi has some . i see em

sudden turret
#

openbox/refurbished on newegg

stray pine
#

but i saw it was mentioned to get a super.

sudden turret
#

eh

stray pine
#

maybe find one at bestbuy or microcenterr

upper condor
#

Yes by me

sudden turret
#

its like 10% in performance

upper condor
#

Best buy is bad lol

sudden turret
#

from 2080 to 2080super

stray pine
#

i didnt buy anythgin from bestbuy. just example

#

i dont know a lot of places that have open box that ship.

upper condor
#

Not everyone has a microcenter though

stoic island
#

Lol yea

#

I'd love to have a micro center

upper condor
#

Im in the uk

stray pine
#

unless we are talking mysteriously used on amazon

stoic island
#

Newegg got some

upper condor
#

I did, then I moved

stoic island
#

My Mobo eas refurb

stray pine
#

I, in general have a hard time buying used hardware.

#

i did step out of that comfort zone with my used TUF Gaming MB500 case lol

upper condor
#

Hey depends on the person

stray pine
#

yup

#

im really debating on returnign my case and getting the Lian Li II

upper condor
#

What case u got?

stray pine
#

MB500 TUF Gaming Edition

#

Cooler Master

upper condor
#

Its not that amazing

#

The p400A is better for 10$ more

stray pine
#

looks good in the video i watched. but now i see it in person and its def functional but not as aesthetically pleasing as i want

upper condor
#

What is

stray pine
#

my case

upper condor
#

the lancool ii?

stray pine
#

no the tug gaming mb500

upper condor
#

Ah

#

yeah its not very attractive to me

stoic island
#

I'm looking into either cm h500 or cm td500

upper condor
#

Just tske my advice

stray pine
#

i got it bc i was orignailly going for the whole Tuf Theme. and i coulndt get a 750psu that matched

upper condor
#

Get the p400a

#

Its amazing

stray pine
#

it looks good, but also everyone has something similar to this

upper condor
#

Read/watch gamersnexus review

stray pine
#

def better lighting for the case

upper condor
#

they gave it case od the year 2019 and best thermals 2019

stray pine
upper condor
#

Is that urs?

stray pine
#

yup

#

using old AF 750 psu from old rig

#

going ot swap out with modular one day

upper condor
stoic island
#

All I know is that the H500 got a good review from GN

upper condor
#

The mesh version did

stray pine
#

yea only a 6.9 degree diff vs the lian li lancool

upper condor
#

Thats a lot

#

44 fahrenheit

stray pine
#

thats stock numbers too meaning nothing else in case. when you got like a rad and 4-5 other fans

upper condor
#

Not rlly...... the p400a comes with 3

#

adding a rad doesnt make it better airfoow, its the same as adding more fans

stray pine
#

the lian comes with 4 and can be used scooted forward to fit large rad and 2 more if needed 120 on top vent

#

used in conjunction

upper condor
#

Dude, p400a is better stock

#

because kt has amazing airflow and good fans

#

It*

stray pine
#

lifes too short to live stock lmao

upper condor
#

Im living stock lol

#

with the p400a

stoic island
#

Yea h500 mesh got pretty neat airflow

#

As you can see

upper condor
#

I can

stray pine
#

it is a good looking case. and cost about the same as the lian li. i was just going to looks as well

upper condor
#

But like, 200$

stoic island
#

H500 is 100$

#

H500M is like 150$

upper condor
#

No h500p mesh

stoic island
#

H500 got a good review too tho

stray pine
#

are we talking nzxt or cooler master

upper condor
#

The other 2 arent on that graph

#

ik

stray pine
#

h500?

upper condor
#

Cooler master

stray pine
#

that one is nice looking too

viral ore
upper condor
#

Yep

#

domt just go for looks

stray pine
#

it was actually one of my choices

viral ore
#

ive been pingused

upper condor
#

go for functionality

stray pine
#

i like looks

viral ore
#

but i dont see it

stray pine
#

if its gonna sit on my desk and stare me in the face the whole time i want something pretty nice looking

upper condor
#

@viral ore

viral ore
#

no, it was a different one

stray pine
#

it was me @viral ore

viral ore
#

ahh

stray pine
#

i wanted to knwo what tuf borad it was

viral ore
#

i see, i searched it

stray pine
#

board

viral ore
#

its a z390 ATX

#

idr anything else

#

TUF GAMING

upper condor
#

I gotta sleep guys

viral ore
#

that was it

upper condor
#

its 11 i have flight at 4am

stray pine
#

nice

stoic island
#

@upper condor H500 is on that graph lol

stray pine
#

what chip is that for?

#

threadripper

upper condor
#

The h500p mesh is

stoic island
#

It's just 1 degree worse than p400a

#

Look again

viral ore
#

wait

#

thats better

#

9900k

stray pine
#

i see. i got the amd version x570

#

your setup looks nice and clean and cozy

upper condor
#

I see

#

Thats 35 f though

#

pretty gihg amount

stray pine
#

huh?

upper condor
#

1.7c is 35f

stray pine
#

are we back on the cases again lol

upper condor
#

Idk

viral ore
#

its 35C

#

btw

stray pine
#

haha

upper condor
#

No, 1.7c is 35f so saying it isnt that much is true, but not super

viral ore
#

wait, what is this a temp of?

upper condor
#

And thats the difference in stock temp

#

Case in stock

stoic island
#

@upper condor lol no

viral ore
#

cases dont have temperatures

stray pine
#

you make a mean case @upper condor ... haha

upper condor
#

The gn torture test

stray pine
#

hes talking about airflow cooling in case

stoic island
#

That's not how you translate differences lol

viral ore
#

the components themselves do, so they put the same components within each case

stray pine
#

design

viral ore
#

also, 35 wouldve been in C, not F

stoic island
#

1.7c DIFFERENCE is not 35F DIFFERENCE

stray pine
#

he was converting

viral ore
#

oh, DIFFERENCE

#

lol

upper condor
#

My b

stoic island
#

Sassy it's like 59C vs 60.9C or something like that

stray pine
#

55c to 48c

viral ore
#

i thought as the actual temp lol

upper condor
#

3.7 f or something

stray pine
#

was like almost 7 degree dif

viral ore
#

the pc hit 1.7C at load lmao

#

was confused

upper condor
#

Nooo

stoic island
upper condor
#

thagd be amazing

stray pine
#

i had a hard time readin most of the chart super small wirting

#

writing

stoic island
#

Sorry

#

I thought it would zoom in further lol

stray pine
#

i though blue was idle and red was load?

stoic island
#

Yea red is load

#

They prob have low room temp lol

upper condor
#

No

#

its just the cpu

stoic island
#

Yea

viral ore
#

the cpu idle and load temps

upper condor
#

they use super hot components on purpose

viral ore
#

not really

upper condor
#

Not load, torture

#

they do

stoic island
#

I'm just commenting on like 1.7C idle

viral ore
#

same thing

upper condor
#

Not rlly

#

a load could just be gaming

viral ore
#

a load of 100% for a sustained peroid of time is known as a torture test

stray pine
#

did someone say torture?

#

hehehehe

upper condor
#

torture is like r20 for an hour

#

Whtever

stoic island
#

That's load lol

viral ore
#

thats what i said

stray pine
#

thats a LOAD of crap

viral ore
#

oof.

upper condor
#

Point is, the p400a is supreme

stray pine
#

haha

#

well idk about that

upper condor
#

For the price, kinda

stoic island
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I don't like the look of it lol

stray pine
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looks like the supreme is at the top of the list

stoic island
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I'ma take a h500

upper condor
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Snake why dont you search up the raven rv02

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Its ugly, and hard to find

stray pine
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why? it shows it on the chart as being lowest stock temps

viral ore
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i got a Q500P, and my CPUs hit 56C under load, so just the case alone isnt a good representation of its thermal performance

stray pine
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1.2 and like 42

viral ore
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stock temps lol

upper condor
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Its impossible to find dude

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on everything

stray pine
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oooooo

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i see

upper condor
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plus acrylic

viral ore
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acrylic is fine

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who cares

stoic island
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I get like 60c on oced load

viral ore
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its sturdier than glass

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thats a reason alone why its better

stray pine
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but that thing is f*** huge though

stoic island
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I like acrylic bc I don't want to screw with glass

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Just in case

upper condor
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Thats why its temps are good

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Its huge af

stray pine
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i bet

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and also its really ugly

upper condor
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Mhm

stray pine
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maybe thats why you cant find it

upper condor
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Yep

viral ore
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for my next pc 3 years from now, im either gonna do localized phase change cooling, or submerge the whole pc in liquid and do it that way

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submersion would make the pc immobile tho

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but way cooler

stray pine
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but im also not sure we should be basing it off idle temps anyway.

stoic island
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@viral ore mineral oil time

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Have a pc better than LTT

viral ore
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a difference in 5C shouldnt be enough to sway your case choice

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no, mineral oil wont change phases

stray pine
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haha

viral ore
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i would need some liquid from 3M

upper condor
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Ok gn guys

stray pine
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the h500 FTW then. under load is gets best airflow

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night

viral ore
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bad way to pick a case

stray pine
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not picking. haha. just comparing. ive already made my choice. i want the Lian Li II lancool

upper condor
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Whyyyy

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its ugly imo

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Ok fr gn tho

stray pine
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sleep on that bud. lol

stoic island
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I really like h500 look lol

viral ore
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my internet dying

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i wanna see the case

stoic island
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The 2x200mm fan look is great imo

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A bit wide but still

viral ore
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the lian li one

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why is discord still working

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but everything else wont

stray pine
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?dk

viral ore
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that case dope

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i like the white one

stoic island
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Which one

viral ore
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the lian li lancool one

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that snake mentioned

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so the whole 120mm rear fan is nice an all, but i wish they would stop putting it on some cases

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its kinda getting old, and they could decrease the case footprint significantly by just ommiting it

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big front intake, bit top exhaust

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thin the case by like an inch or two

stoic island
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I wonder, is there a review of the td500 mesh yet?

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From like GN

stray pine
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td500? lemme see this thing

wide sparrow
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@stoic island thinking of getting the case?

stoic island
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Maybe

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Looking at my options

wide sparrow
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Closest thing to a review

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My future case

stoic island
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Ah

stray pine
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oh yea. i saw this thing on pauls hardware i think

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when he went to the expo

wide sparrow
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Yep

stray pine
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this thing looks sick

stoic island
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Saw it on GN CES 2020 thing

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So I'm waiting for them to do a test for airflow and temps

wide sparrow
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With the right fans and aio

stray pine
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right?

viral ore
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that looks awesome

wide sparrow
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Right now you can preorder on amazon. It comes out next month on the 15th I think

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99 USD

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great price

stray pine
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buy me one @wide sparrow

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gift it to me

wide sparrow
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I have a budget );

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can't

stray pine
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man thats my problem too

wide sparrow
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lol

stray pine
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did we just become best friends

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?

wide sparrow
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yes

stray pine
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hells yea

wide sparrow
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We share the same financial burdens

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lol

stray pine
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a wife?

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kids?

viral ore
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those are financial burdens i do not want in my life lmao

stray pine
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shoot if i dindt have those id have @viral ore freaking sick setup

viral ore
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my build isnt the one i send in build pics lol

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its for work

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i built like 6 of those

wide sparrow
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@stray pine no I don't have those yet XD

stray pine
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its still lot of power