#building-and-recc-chat

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foggy hazel
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and there isnt a downside for you in that

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12year warranty etc, the usual seasonic stuff

gray totem
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great

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why did u choose that graphcis card

foggy hazel
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you mean, that specific model?

gray totem
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in general

foggy hazel
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as in, the 2060 variant?

gray totem
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i mean just this card in general

foggy hazel
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because it is "enough"

gray totem
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ok

cursive wharf
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we going for efficiency for the PSU?

gray totem
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efficiency and performance

foggy hazel
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not really Hei, i just know that one to be darn near silent

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seeing as the actually passive ones are not available over in the states atm

gray totem
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i would like the entire machine to pull less power than my current i7-6700

foggy hazel
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IF you let the machine do its own thing in regards to power

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it will

gray totem
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whats that mean

foggy hazel
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IF you dont fiddle with things and "force" it to run at settings that only make you feel good, but dont actually matter.

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it will consumer less power

gray totem
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got ya

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i keep it on 24/7

foggy hazel
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because you will have a GUI for the mainboard that will have a LOT of "oh shiny" buttons on it

cursive wharf
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wait, but stock 3900x on load is like 140w, 6700 is 90w or less

foggy hazel
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just leave them all alone basically

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the rest of the system counts too @cursive wharf

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mech drives etc

gray totem
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yeah, wont have mech drives

foggy hazel
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none of that sillyness in this one

gray totem
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which is awesome

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i put a blu-ray in my pc in 2016, never even opened it

foggy hazel
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get an external drive if you feel that you have to

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forget the internal ODD's

gray totem
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dont need

foggy hazel
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they are a waste of space :)

gray totem
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agree

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i want something quiet but also energy efficient btw

foggy hazel
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just one last thing to check with @cursive wharf

cursive wharf
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ye?

foggy hazel
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how is the Pilot vs the Sabrent?

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you are the one that selected the pilot after all :)

cursive wharf
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I never really 100% looked at benchmarks, but I'd assume random is close to the same despite the huge seq differences

📎 unknown.png
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But everything in the Rocket is better, on paper at least

foggy hazel
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aye

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question of firmware etc

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and pilot is tlc, so not worried on that front

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and at that size, the prize is heavily in favour of the pilot

cursive wharf
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I mean quite a large budget. Might as well Rocket

foggy hazel
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true enough

gray totem
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yeah dont cheap out on me

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lol

foggy hazel
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and my price comment was wrong, i mistook the rocket 4 for the regular

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and that one is "silly" expensive vs the pilot

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rocket (regular) it is

cursive wharf
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RAM is CL18 btw

foggy hazel
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trade for 32 modules

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timing will drop at that size anyway

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so not a problem

gray totem
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looking now

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what do u think of the list @cursive wharf

foggy hazel
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sidenote: the mainboard has been verified to fit the NH-D15

sick cove
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question! is the 1600AF good to go with if i don't plan on messing with my machine for a few years?

cursive wharf
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I assume no OC? That x570 does have a not so great VRM setup

foggy hazel
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@cursive wharf no oc, that board is for other reasons

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intel lan etc etc

gray totem
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it looks awesome

foggy hazel
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something to note down, connect your speakers on the backplate, NOT the front ports on the case :)

gray totem
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ok will do, but why

foggy hazel
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quality of signal

cursive wharf
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@sick cove yeah. But 1600AF prices seem to be random due to high demand. So if getting for the $110+ range you might as well get a 2600

gray totem
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ok

sick cove
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i see. can it run vr tho?

cursive wharf
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yes

gray totem
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so u think this build looks good?

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final?

cursive wharf
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seems good to me

foggy hazel
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yes @gray totem

sick cove
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raaaad. thank you for the tech support

cursive wharf
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no problem

gray totem
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thanks guys!!

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im going to order this

foggy hazel
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you are very welcome :)

gray totem
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a million thanks, wow

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this was fun and i learned

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🙂

foggy hazel
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do throw a message when you get it up and running :)

gray totem
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yes i will def come back here

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🙂

foggy hazel
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and do remember, if you have questions, there are no stupid questions, only silly answers :)

gray totem
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thank you

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you're very kind

foggy hazel
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you are the one being patient and taking the time to ask and think

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that is rare these days

gray totem
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yeah it really is

cursive wharf
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indeed

gray totem
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i run multiple forums, large forums, so i know what its like

foggy hazel
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:)

gray totem
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is this the same mobo

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the system buidler was having me get it at walmart

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i believe it is

foggy hazel
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it is

gray totem
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same price on amazon too

foggy hazel
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amazon seems to report it as out of stock "at this moment in time"

gray totem
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weird, not for me

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are you prime?

foggy hazel
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hence you got throw to wallmart

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shrugs

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nope :)

gray totem
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maybe thats why

foggy hazel
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i am not in the US :)

gray totem
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got a

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ya

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so this is a dumb question...what do i do about win10? can i transfer the license from my current computer?

foggy hazel
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you got a retail license?

cursive wharf
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yes, bit whack tho

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need to transfer it to a Microsoft account

gray totem
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hmm no i dont

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i dont think its tied to a microsoft account currently

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i use local login

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whats my best option u think

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cheapest option

cursive wharf
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you can with any win10 version afaik. make an account and login, then goto activation and you should have an option to tie it to your account

foggy hazel
gray totem
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ok cool, then i can transfer it?

foggy hazel
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aye

gray totem
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sweet

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thanks

foggy hazel
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np :)

gray totem
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this looks like it

foggy hazel
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PSU

gray totem
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d'oh!

foggy hazel
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:)

gray totem
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ahh not avail on amazon

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thats why

foggy hazel
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oh?

gray totem
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hmm, not prime its showing

foggy hazel
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have a look there

gray totem
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ahh ok

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ty

foggy hazel
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np

gray totem
foggy hazel
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take a good look at the case

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that shipping date is ... in a bit ..

gray totem
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oh crap

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how did i miss that

foggy hazel
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also, what is wrong with that ram price?

gray totem
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yeah i just noticed that

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thats weird

foggy hazel
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that is bonkers high

gray totem
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yeah, gonna check newegg

foggy hazel
gray totem
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ouch!!

foggy hazel
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links for either directly from corsair or newegg

gray totem
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thanks for catching that, man

foggy hazel
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np

gray totem
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actually not avail at newegg

foggy hazel
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corsair it is then

gray totem
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lol yup

foggy hazel
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only other price diff is a +20 usd on the GPU

gray totem
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checking

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im embarrassed i didnt catch this

foggy hazel
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but that is very minor, so that doesnt matter

rustic stratus
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Any builds for 500$ Max

gray totem
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i am placing an order from newegg, so might as well get it form them

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$40 is $40

rustic stratus
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(CAD)

foggy hazel
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you are very much excused, you have "ooooh! shiny! glasses on @gray totem

gray totem
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haha yup!

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im going with newegg for the gpu

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since im placing an order already

foggy hazel
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what else are you getting there?

gray totem
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well i could get the psu there too i guess, but good call

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but if it saves me $40

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🙂

foggy hazel
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aye aye

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for the money it makes sense

gray totem
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idk, not worth it u think?

foggy hazel
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you are the one that knows if it makes it easier for you (convenience wise) not to

gray totem
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XC Gaming

foggy hazel
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aye, that is the right one

gray totem
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sweet

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thanks

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now case

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last component

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no one seems to have that

foggy hazel
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does not look like it

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the first thing we started with, and the last thing we end with :)

gray totem
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haha yup

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bummer

cursive wharf
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airflow is kinda eh on it tho

gray totem
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ahh ok

foggy hazel
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i cannot really offer any replacements, because it is entirely a question of what you want

gray totem
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im looking on coolermaster now

foggy hazel
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i dont know much about rgb cases, so .. yeah :)

gray totem
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RGB TD500

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instead of ARGB

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idk what that means

foggy hazel
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thats the model with the acryllic sidepanel

gray totem
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ohh i like that

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lol

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sweet

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that case will work right?

foggy hazel
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instead of the tempered glass of the other variant

gray totem
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right

foggy hazel
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the ARGB i would expect would be to do with how much control you have over the light show

gray totem
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yeah, that doesnt really matter

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i will probably turn them off after a week

foggy hazel
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that is entirely your call :)

gray totem
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yeah this other one looks good

foggy hazel
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when you decide you want a more "normal" case, you are more than welcome to ask :D

gray totem
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lol

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sorry

foggy hazel
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nothing to be sorry about :)

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it is your build :)

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believe it or not, i have done pink builds for customers

gray totem
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haha im sure

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i think i have it ready now...

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oops

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remove psu from amazon

foggy hazel
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double psu

gray totem
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yup

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my bad

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its late lol

foggy hazel
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:)

gray totem
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removed

tranquil dust
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honey flooshed

foggy hazel
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prices etc look right

gray totem
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lol u dont like honey?

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thanks @foggy hazel

tranquil dust
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i use honey lmao

gray totem
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its great

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so @foggy hazel, i think im all set here

tranquil dust
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tis

gray totem
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ready to order these carts, right?

foggy hazel
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yes @gray totem

gray totem
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great!! this is exciting

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going to order now 🙂

foggy hazel
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:)

gray totem
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#ordered

foggy hazel
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now you get to run on the walls while waiting :)

gray totem
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haha yup!

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seroiusly

foggy hazel
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aye

gray totem
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thanks again, i really appreciate your help

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this was great

foggy hazel
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even after all these years, when i am doing my own builds, i am just like that :)

gray totem
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haha yup

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cant believe i went AMD

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first time in my life

foggy hazel
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first time for everything :)

gray totem
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im 36, been building comps since iwas 13

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i hope you're right about this

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lol

foggy hazel
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:)

gray totem
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👍

foggy hazel
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dont worry, it will look nice as a paper weight

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that was what we were doing right?

gray totem
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LOL yup, totally

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at least it has lights

foggy hazel
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good good :)

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aye

gray totem
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thats an expensive light

foggy hazel
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the most fanciest of paper weights

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(yes, spelling is on purpose)

gray totem
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lol yup

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thanks again, i will come back when all the parts come and i put her together

foggy hazel
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dont worry, you are gong to be pleasantly surprised

gray totem
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yeah i think so

foggy hazel
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aye aye :)

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do remember

gray totem
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i have some thermal paste too from years ago

foggy hazel
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assembly outside the case

gray totem
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really?

foggy hazel
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thermal paste is included with the D15

gray totem
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i've always built inside the case

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ok great

foggy hazel
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and dont drop a brick in the pants when you see the cooler

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it is NOT small

gray totem
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lol

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awesome

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so put everything together outside of the box?

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and put it all in the case last?

foggy hazel
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at least boot it up outside

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just in case you have a DOA part

gray totem
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got ya

foggy hazel
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after 25+ years, i still do that

gray totem
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i guess i'm using windows usb boot?

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nice

foggy hazel
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aye, just grab the media tool on ms' site

gray totem
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right

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thanks

foggy hazel
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np :)

gray totem
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hopefully you'll be here when i'm ready to build

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so i can come back 🙂

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and talk t ou

foggy hazel
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or just send me a pm, this machine is generally on 24/7

gray totem
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sweet thanks

foggy hazel
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again, you are very welcome :)

gray totem
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again man, i appreciate all your time and help

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its invaluable to me

foggy hazel
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any time :)

gray totem
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u helped a lot!

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i'll be speaking to you soon

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for sur

foggy hazel
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now go and run on the walls

gray totem
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haha yup

foggy hazel
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there are grooves to be made

gray totem
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there sure are

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speak soon friend 🙂

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im signing off for now

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thanks again

foggy hazel
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have fun :)

gray totem
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you too 🙂

warped moat
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So I’m thinking about getting an nh-d15 but I don’t want it to cover up my rgb ram. Do y’all think it will affect performance if I mount the end fan to the left vs to the right

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note not my builds just some pics I found online

viral ore
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nah, just make sure they blowing the right way

warped moat
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Aight thx

mint tendon
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say you have a 240 liquid cooler and your case can hold 3 140mm fans can i mount a third fan under the aio?

viral ore
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you can mount a 120mm fan under it

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not a 140

mint tendon
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oh yeah thats what i meant

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3 120 fans

viral ore
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oh

mint tendon
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but yeah with a 240 aio i could mount a 120 fan under it?

viral ore
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so your case has room for 3 120mm fans where you want to mount the rad?

mint tendon
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yeah

viral ore
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really depends on the case

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most likely not

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send me the case ur using tho

mint tendon
viral ore
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if i were you, i would leave the 3 included fans in the front, and mount the 240mm at the top of the case

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exhaust out the top

mint tendon
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ok i was suggested to do it in the front for better temps on cpu

viral ore
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not really

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all it does is increase your gpu temps

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because you cool your gpu with the warm air from the cpu

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plus, heat rises, and pumps perform better when they are at the bottom of the loop

mint tendon
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ok

viral ore
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so your cpu temps will be at most 2-3C higher

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but your gpu temps will be much lower

mint tendon
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by how much would temps on gpu be roughly

viral ore
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like 5-6

mint tendon
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oh ok

viral ore
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still not alot

mint tendon
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i mean the gpu imma get has 3 fans on it

viral ore
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but from an airflow standpoint, put the rad at the top

mint tendon
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so itll be lower temp to begin with

viral ore
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also, dont bother putting a rear exhaust fan at the back

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leave it emply

mint tendon
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why?

viral ore
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it allows the case to maintain positive air pressure much easier

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and, it means all the air coming from the front of the case will mostly go through the rad

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as opposed to just out the back

mint tendon
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oh ok

viral ore
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hmmm, i may need to do more research

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apparently, the case doesnt "officially support" top rad mounting

mint tendon
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my friend has the same case and it just depends if it fits is all iirc

foggy hazel
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that "detail" is quite important :) [edit: is]

viral ore
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tbh. if it can fit the same size fans, its just a question of thickness and the clearance of the edges

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side clearances are fine

mint tendon
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yeah

viral ore
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but thickness im not sure

mint tendon
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i think that was the issue with the cooler he got in his was clearance wasnt there for his

viral ore
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it will clear the motherboard fine, but the first obstruction it could hit are the ram sticks

mint tendon
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but idk which on ehe got

viral ore
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aight, imma be honest, if your gonna go for an AIO for looks, you might as well get a nicer looking case as well

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if you dont wanna pay a ton for looks, just get a nice air cooler

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and have it exhaust right out the back

mint tendon
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ok it would prob mainly be for looks as aio provides about same temps as air cooler i feel at least i dont have any experience my self

viral ore
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yeahh. its not worth the risk trying to mount a 240mm aio in the case, but you could just remove the lower fan, but then it just looks unbalanced from the front

mint tendon
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yeah thats thing i dont want it to be enbalance

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maybe get a 360 then?

viral ore
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if you want, i would suggest that over the 240

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but what cpu are you getting that would need 360mm of rad space for cooling?

mint tendon
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lol the cpu def wouldnt need it imma get a ryzen 5 3600

viral ore
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yeahh, a nice looking air cooler should be fine

placid grail
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I need someones opinion on which pc to go for

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dm me

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if you can help

viral ore
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just toss it in here

placid grail
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Aight but it's a slab

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ST-BLAZE-II-2700-2060-6G

CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 2700 8-Core 3.2 GHz (4.1 GHz Max Boost)

Case
Skytech Blaze II Tempered Glass Case

CPU Cooler
Wraith Stealth Cooler

Fans
3x Skytech ARGB, Dual Ring Fans

Motherboard
B450M

RAM
16GB DDR4 (2x 8GB) 3000 MHz

Graphics
Nvidia RTX 2060 6GB GDDR6

Primary Hard Drive
500GB SSD

Power Supply
550 Watt 80 Plus Bronze

Networking
802.11 ac

Operating System
Windows 10 Home, 64-bit

Warranty
1-Year Lifetime Tech, Parts, Labor & Shipping Support``` FOR 840 USD


```WARRANTY PACKAGES : 2 Years Warranty (Carry In)
CHASSIS : BOLT : BOLT Premium Full Steel Chassis | ZERO MOUNT Tempered Glass Design - SLATE BLACK
DESKTOP MOTHERBOARD : BOLT : For AMD - ASUS TUF B450M PLUS GAMING ( 4 RAM Slots )
CPU : DESKTOPS : AMD RYZEN 5 3600 | 4.2 GHz | 6 Cores 12 Threads
THERMAL COMPOUND : Premium Enthusiast Grade Thermal Compound
GRAPHICS CARD : PERFORMANCE : ZOTAC GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB GDDR6
RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) : DESKTOP : 16GB DDR4 3600 Mhz Memory ( 2X8GB | Dual Channel ) KLEVV BOLT X (Low Latency Memory)
CPU COOLING SYSTEM (DESKTOP) : AIR COOLING : AFTERSHOCK F10 Premium CPU cooling fan (For Intel cpu options only)
PRIMARY M.2 SSD : DESKTOPS : 512GB M.2 NVME ULTRA FAST SSD (Read Speed: 3200MB/s | Write speed : 2000MB/s)
FIRST HARD DRIVE : DESKTOP : 1TB 7200RPM HDD
CHASSIS FANS : Standard Black Chassis Fans
CASE LIGHTING : None
WIRELESS LAN : DESKTOP : None
CUSTOM CABLE SLEEVES : Standard Cable Setup
POWER SUPPLY UNIT : 600W FSP / EVGA PSU``` for 905 usd or change the 1660S to and 2060 RTX and add 115 usd making it 1021 USD
viral ore
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well, having the better GPU will give you better game performance in general

foggy hazel
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@viral ore a moment please?

viral ore
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and having the extra 2 cores will help with a few cpu bound games

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but the IPC of the 3600 might not be enough when compared to the 2700 to make it better enough

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of course, a few other things still need to be tweaked

placid grail
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Such as

viral ore
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the PSU you listed is quite generic

placid grail
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In both?

viral ore
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decent 3600mhz ram isnt that much more money

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yeah, in both

placid grail
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What should I try to tweak?

viral ore
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well

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list you budget and use case, and people can create a part list

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thats a good outline, but you havent really listed any actual components

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the only components you have listed are the case, mobo, and cpu

placid grail
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What other components are u referring to?

viral ore
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the case, motherboard, and cpu

placid grail
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I mean

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which others do u want me

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to list

viral ore
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wait a minute

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im sorry, i didnt realize these were prebuilt lists

placid grail
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.>

viral ore
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i thought this was a component list you put together

placid grail
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I don't have enough confidence in myself to try building something

still roostBOT
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Omiggy#4158 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

placid grail
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Then have nothing

foggy hazel
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and you would have been told this if you had said yes earlier @viral ore

viral ore
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meh

placid grail
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Which one overall?

viral ore
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overall, the first one

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but neither is a good choice

placid grail
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What's a good choice then?

foggy hazel
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more importantly, which company is building them?

placid grail
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Australian companies

foggy hazel
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and at what cost?

placid grail
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wdym

foggy hazel
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what are the prices on both machines?

placid grail
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I listed them above

foggy hazel
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yes, i know they will be in AUD

placid grail
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o

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in aud

foggy hazel
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aye, my mistake, sorry about that @placid grail

placid grail
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1st = 1,248 AUD 2nd = 1,345 AUD or change the 1660S to and 2060 RTX makin it 1517 aud

foggy hazel
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the problem/challenge with those lists is that the devil can be in the details

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and there is a distinct lack of details up there

viral ore
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so listen, you putting it together isn't super difficult, and i guarantee you will end up with a better, longer lasting pc

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emphasis on longer lasting

placid grail
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If that would be the case

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Then do you have a somewhat budget gaming pc list of components?

viral ore
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we can make one

placid grail
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rn?

viral ore
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just depends on where you want to buy components from

foggy hazel
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locally for him

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shipping is hell over there

placid grail
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So from an aussie website

viral ore
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i would imagine

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so whats your total budget in AUD

placid grail
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I don't have one set in stone

viral ore
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and do you need keyboard, mouse, and monitor?

placid grail
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I can show u the peripherals i found

viral ore
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what would you like to spend?

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ok

placid grail
viral ore
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not bad

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would you want to order completely on amazon? is shipping bad or no?

placid grail
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Oh the shipping

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Probs wanna find a better monitor

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The 2 australian ones

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Don't have shipping

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but the monitor got $150 aud shipping

viral ore
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hmm

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idk how amazon works in other countries

placid grail
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Just add .au to the .com of the website

viral ore
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idk if you could milk the system with amazon prime

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free two day shipping

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but that probably wouldnt apply to a majority of items

placid grail
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Do you know of any good monitors used for like

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stretched res shooters

viral ore
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oof.

placid grail
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With 144hz

viral ore
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i mean, any monitor will look the same, regardless of the aspect ratio a game renders in

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no monitors are better than others for mismatching aspect ratio

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but the one you linked wasnt bad

placid grail
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hm

viral ore
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do you happen to have amazon prime?

placid grail
#

Nope

viral ore
#

ordering from amazon shouldnt be a problem shipping cost wise

placid grail
#

Scam

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This is what the website tells me

viral ore
#

would suggest getting a prime trial before ordering tho

placid grail
#

o ye

viral ore
#

its measured in kg

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so its gonna be 6.99 initialy

foggy hazel
viral ore
#

plus a whopping 9.49 per kg

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thx naed

foggy hazel
#

mainboard will have to be looked at, because the usual suspects are not available over there

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for me, the price on that build is 1400.99 aud

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because no newegg

placid grail
#

fr?

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That Storage ain't available.

foggy hazel
#

mwave has it

viral ore
#

to make amazon shipping not cost almost 400 AUD, you will have to get a prime free trial, and limit yourself to only prime eligible items.

placid grail
viral ore
#

so if you know of any local options, let us know

foggy hazel
#

look there @placid grail

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its just amazon that is out of stock

placid grail
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Most of the aussie shops are overprices af

foggy hazel
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and i am just going to make a prediction now (based on the other AU builds i have specced over the years) that is going to be a common theme

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@placid grail you cant magic things over to you guys, so you can either wish for rainbows and unicorns or you can pay the local price

placid grail
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D;

foggy hazel
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shipping out to you is bonkers

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if it is any consolation, local prices where i am, are higher

viral ore
#

the cost of the aorus board is only 90 usd, so mwave doesnt seem to have terrible prices

foggy hazel
#

they dont.

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the prices are not that bad, the real "annoyance" is the availability of specific things

viral ore
#

at least they have a good selection of cases

foggy hazel
#

-ish

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as long as you dont go itx

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(or that was how it was on the last build i did at least)

placid grail
#

Any good

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pc building tutorials

foggy hazel
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yes, read the manual, dont rush

placid grail
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I have plenty of time

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No need for rush

viral ore
#

plenty. LTT did this one cheesy first person one that is exactly right

placid grail
#

Does it come with a manual?

viral ore
#

yeah, all the components will come with one

foggy hazel
#

every mainboard and case come with instructions.

placid grail
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;o

foggy hazel
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which includes how the rest goes in there

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because everything is tied to those two "main" components [edit: two]

placid grail
#

i see

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Do you recommend a different motherboard or the B450m?

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Same with the cpu

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Do you recommend a different one other than AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor

foggy hazel
#

for a first build, b450 is just fine

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it will be running stock, so there are no problems

#

but, i have butted in on @viral ore 's talk with you, and since i am on my way to work, i will leave you two to it

placid grail
#

Aight

viral ore
#

k thats fine

#

so imma put together an mwave part list so you can just order everything locally from the same website

placid grail
#

ok

viral ore
#

will be easier and cheaper

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do you need wifi?

placid grail
#

No

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I got ethernet

viral ore
#

ok

placid grail
#

Also don't need an operating system

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I got some spare ones at home

viral ore
#

find a case u like

placid grail
#

I couldn't really care about the looks

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Aslong as it's not too pricy lmfao

viral ore
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i mean, its sitting next to you, not me

placid grail
#

you you?

viral ore
#

so just pick a cheap one from the list

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to, srry

placid grail
#

Do we want one

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With chassis fans

viral ore
#

preferably, yes

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its cheaper than buying your own

placid grail
viral ore
#

well, this one has really bad airflow

placid grail
#

o

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u choose one

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xd

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nothing above $90 aud

viral ore
#

how about this

placid grail
#

ye thats fine

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nice price choice

viral ore
#

it comes with 3 fans too

placid grail
#

;o

viral ore
#

o hehe

placid grail
#

xd

viral ore
#

it do be quite nice ngl

placid grail
#

what have u tried it?

viral ore
#

the case?

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or

placid grail
#

The number

viral ore
#

o lmao no

placid grail
#

U said it be quite nice

viral ore
#

virgin 4 life

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ya, the number

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so ive got 5 parts so far

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almost done

placid grail
#

Nice

viral ore
#

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/msi-b450m-provdh-max-am4-microatx-motherboard-ac29010
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/amd-ryzen-5-3600-6-core-socket-am4-36ghz-cpu-processor-wraith-stealth-cooler-ac24743
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-2x-8gb-ddr4-3600mhz-cl16-memory-black-ac27060
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/tecware-m3-micro-rgb-tempered-glass-minitower-microatx-case-black-ac29642
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/corsair-cx550m-550w-80-plus-bronze-semimodular-power-supply-ac06921
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/corsair-force-mp510-240gb-m2-nvme-ssd-cssdf240gbmp510-ac20054
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/seagate-st2000dm008-2tb-barracuda-35-7200rpm-sata3-desktop-hard-drive-ac20161
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/msi-radeon-rx-5700-xt-mech-oc-8gb-video-card-ac27418

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parts

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gpu could be cheaper, just depends on budget

placid grail
#

do u got

#

a cheaper gpu?

viral ore
#

i could find one

placid grail
#

ye

viral ore
#

but it wont perform as well as this one

#

o shoot forgot peripherals

placid grail
#

O

#

ye

viral ore
#

the gpu gonna have to be cheaper lmao

placid grail
#

Yep

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lol

viral ore
#

what kinda keyboard do you want

#

do you want one similar to the one you linked b4

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also, what do you want the switches to feel like

#

if you had to describe what you want

placid grail
#

Something better than this laptop keyboard

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I have no clue on the different keyboards

viral ore
#

do you want to feel and hear the key register?

placid grail
#

I don't want it to be loud.

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Cus I'll be mashing keys at 2am

viral ore
#

i see

placid grail
#

Can you find a cheaper one?

viral ore
#

thats the cheapest mechanical one available

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and you dont want rubber dome

placid grail
#

thats true

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aight

viral ore
#

there is one for 70, but its out of stock

placid grail
#

Link

viral ore
placid grail
#

sooo

viral ore
placid grail
#

about that gpu

viral ore
#

mouse

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yeah, ill figure it out later

placid grail
#

xd

viral ore
#

thats the last thing

placid grail
#

aight

viral ore
#

because its whatever you feel like spending really

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also based on the monitor you end up getting as well

placid grail
#

ye

viral ore
#

theres also this

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its mem-chanical tho

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so its better than membrane, but kinda noisy

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its not too noisy tho

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not nearly as nice either

placid grail
#

ye

viral ore
#

i think you will really like the 99 dollar one

placid grail
#

I hope so lol

viral ore
#

but, you would then have to drop 60 on a mouse

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soo

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its not cheap

#

really up to you

placid grail
#

You could probs find cheaper ram?

viral ore
#

nope

placid grail
#

fr

viral ore
#

the links i sent you, aside from the gpu, are non negotiable

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unless u just want something

#

like a nicer case

placid grail
#

fr

#

so like

#

wrong link

viral ore
#

oof

placid grail
#

so like

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this wouldn't work?

viral ore
#

C18

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trust me its worth the extra 10

placid grail
#

I'ma be broke

viral ore
#

its 10 AUD

#

its nothing

placid grail
#

It all adds up

viral ore
#

compared to the total cost of this

placid grail
#

I swear

#

I say "it all adds up" to everyone

#

every day

viral ore
#

yep it does

#

thats just what it costs

placid grail
#

I dislike money

#

THen

viral ore
#

lmao

placid grail
#

Could I

#

Create a religion

#

That said

#

We don't believe in science or money

#

Then get everything for free

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🤔

viral ore
#

probably exists

#

somewhere

placid grail
#

lol probs

viral ore
#

do you want a curved monitor

placid grail
#

Not particularly

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brb

viral ore
#

monitor

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its actually the cheapest 120hz+ monitor on the site

placid grail
#

Ill be like 10

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Hol up

viral ore
#

aight, this brings the total to 1800

#

i think thats too much tho

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the only things that can go cheaper are the keyboard, mouse, gpu, and cpu

placid grail
#

aight im back

#

Indeed that is too much

viral ore
#

for what it is 1800 is a decent price

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taking it any cheaper would b hard tho

placid grail
#

1.5k probs highest i can go

viral ore
#

cuz tbh, this is just the cost of a modern pc

#

but, we can skimp on a few

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things

placid grail
#

We haven't gotten a mouse yet.

foggy hazel
#

quick comment: consider some of the parts like investments

placid grail
#

wdym?

foggy hazel
#

monitor will most likely be around for a build or two

#

case could easily be around for a build or five

#

Sassy can explain in detail on that line of thinking

viral ore
#

yeah, but i wanna go to bed soon

little osprey
#

Should I sell my RX 580 nitro plus used for 125 + 8 shipping

placid grail
#

What's the time for u?

little osprey
#

What’s the next best Gpu I could upgrade to

viral ore
#

late

little osprey
#

That’s not super expensive?

placid grail
#

8pm here

viral ore
#

boom, new total is 1500, not including shipping

#

tbh, its good enough

placid grail
#

ye

#

we don't have mouse tho

viral ore
#

tada

placid grail
#

damn dawg

#

chill

viral ore
#

lmao

#

you literally cant go cheaper here without a complete build overhaul

#

I would still strongly suggest the previous build tho

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if you cant, thats totally fine

#

but direct all further questions to naed, because i sleep

placid grail
#

Aight

#

gn

pulsar anchor
upper condor
#

No your ssd is pretty slow @pulsar anchor

pulsar anchor
#

yeah i already know that

#

thats why i said besidees

upper condor
#

Besides that, it all looks fine

pulsar anchor
#

okay

#

how do i enable ahci?

stoic island
#

It's in bios

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Idk gb bios so don't ask me where

pulsar anchor
#

ok

shy ruin
#

Anyone know how unscrew them? The top screws off so I can’t unscrew it

📎 image0.jpg
latent bronze
#

Why did you screw the standoff on top of it

shy ruin
#

What was I supposed to do?

latent bronze
#

standoff, m.2 then screw

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standoffs are made for things to rest on top of them

shy ruin
#

Oh

#

That makes sense

latent bronze
#

having the M.2 at direct contact with your motherboard can cause a short which then the board and M.2 would be useless

shy ruin
#

Ok

latent bronze
#

I hope you didn't turn on the system with it like that

shy ruin
#

Could that be why a pcie slot was not working

#

Everything else was working fine

sudden turret
#

them things come with manuals

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mobos, m.2 drives.. and such

#

5mins of reading will save you tons of money.

shy ruin
#

Yeah

little osprey
#

@tropic moss how does that cooler cool the cpu

#

@latent bronze you guys have too much OCD with cleaning chat

latent bronze
#

Cleaning which chat

little osprey
#

Build chat

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I mean build pic

#

It was one question

latent bronze
little osprey
#

Says may

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Not should

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@latent bronze

latent bronze
#

Well we like to keep questions in channels such as this one so when they stream showing builds they don't have to keep scrolling to the next picture

little osprey
#

Its makes more sense because people in this chat dont ha e contexts to which chat is for which build

latent bronze
#

People like Box and AMX has mentioned a lot of times before to keep the questions and chatter in this channel

little osprey
#

If that makes sense to you

sudden turret
#

are you seriously going to argue this?

upper condor
#

Yeah

#

Does it matter

little osprey
#

Because the thing clearly says may

#

Not will

upper condor
#

Ok?

little osprey
#

Or should

upper condor
#

Its just being polite

sudden turret
#

and you've been here long enough to know

upper condor
#

Its like when someone asks if you want to do something for them, when they are telling you

sudden turret
#

we scrub the channel so its pictures only.

latent bronze
#

The only text that we would keep is when people are saying what is inside their system

little osprey
#

I get it

wispy matrix
#

Can someone hook me up with some cheap dual monitors

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Like from newegg

sudden turret
#

search function?

latent bronze
#

are you asking for suggestions?

wispy matrix
#

Yes

little osprey
#

What I'm am saying its I like to see the picture and the chat behind the picture without having to dig

#

I'm not mad or anything

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Or trying to be rude

upper condor
#

Ok @little osprey, its over just deal with it

little osprey
#

Pixie and violet are cheap monitors

upper condor
#

Sceptre

little osprey
#

Pixio

upper condor
#

Also is cheap

little osprey
#

Viotek

#

Dang autocorrect

#

Whata your budget

#

Whats*

latent bronze
#

disable auto correct then

little osprey
#

Lol

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Nah fam

#

It's useful for not weird monitor brands

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@wispy matrix

lofty swan
#

I need a PC build under 1.2k

upper condor
#

@lofty swan I like that p400a

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I have it

cursive wharf
#

@lofty swan lot of things need tweaking
mobo, RAM, SSD, PSU, WiFi card (get one from mobo), GPU (get one with better cooling)

versed scarab
#

Hey guys would a ryzen 5 3600, asus am4 TUF gaming x570-plus wifi mobo, and corsair vengeance rgb pro 16gb 2x8gb ddr4 3600(PC4-28800) c18 be a good match up together?

warped moat
#

Change the ram

cursive wharf
#

mobo is pretty eh

warped moat
#

3600 ram with C18 timings ain’t good

cursive wharf
#

plus gaming isnt that good. Pro gaming is a good thing, but no wifi

warped moat
#

Get one with C16 timings

cursive wharf
#

so, b450 Gigabyte Auros Pro WiFi

lofty swan
#

Everything needs tweaking?

cursive wharf
lofty swan
#

Only 550w?

#

I would like to upgrade it later

cursive wharf
#

added CPU cooler for lower noise
changed mobo for quality of life things (M2 ports, ethernet controller, sound chip, USB ports, etc)
RAM is better
SSD is better
GPU has better cooling
PSU is good quality

#

also

#

550w can handle a 3700x and 2080ti

lofty swan
#

Would it be a problem to upgrade to a 650?

cursive wharf
#

a waste of money?

#

other then that, no

lofty swan
#

or would that Fri everything

cursive wharf
#

a 550w can even handle a 3900x and 2080Ti realistically
also no it wouldnt

#

you can put a 2100w PSU in there if you wanted

lofty swan
#

Oo gee

cursive wharf
#

other then being a waste of money, nothing bad will happen

versed scarab
#

@warped moat does 3200mhz vs 3600mhz make a huge difference?

lofty swan
#

Oo okay cool

cursive wharf
#

depends on the task

pulsar anchor
#

if youre on amd platform, it does

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i mean not a huge**

cursive wharf
#

also depends on timings

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3200 CL14 vs 3600 CL22 is big. The 3600 will suck hard

pulsar anchor
#

ok

#

dont asking

versed scarab
#

Its 3600mhz c18 but I found a 3200mhz c16, I'm going to be gaming and streaming

warped moat
#

It’s a big enough difference that’s it’s worth it imo

cursive wharf
#

It's about the same in terms of performance

#

3600 CL16 is cheap

obsidian sand
#

got about $1500 canadian to build a new PC
is there a good PC builder website with canadian prices?

upper condor
#

Yes

teal bison
#

Ya go to pcpp and set your location as Canada

obsidian sand
#

thanks 🙂

little osprey
#

not necessarily a waste of money to get a psu with more than 550w

#

main reason is for overclocking or watercool

upper condor
#

Lol no

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Why does watercooling affect it

little osprey
#

watercooling generalyl comes with overclocking

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if you watercool and don't overclock i don't see the point

upper condor
#

@little osprey custom or aio?

little osprey
#

both

upper condor
#

Lol no

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Aios suck

little osprey
#

aio is good for cpu overclock

upper condor
#

Lol no

little osprey
#

stop saying lol no

upper condor
#

The d15 outperforms many 240 and 280mm aios

little osprey
#

the d15

still roostBOT
#
Mando#4221 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lime forge
#

but the d15 is ugly

little osprey
#

the clunkiest cooler out there

lime forge
#

and ram clearance

little osprey
#

thats my point

upper condor
#

@lime forge no its in black they have one

#

Just get low profile

little osprey
#

its still ugly

upper condor
#

Aios are loud also

little osprey
#

i can't hear mine

#

they aren't loud

upper condor
#

The pump is

little osprey
#

if anything the fans would be louder

#

and most people with AIOs are using headset

#

lmao

#

i have to press my ear against the metal of my case for me to hear it

upper condor
#

Not all aios are made the same

#

They arent all bad, but they are all overpriced

little osprey
#

LMAO

#

thats incredibly wrong

#

a 240mm radiator is about 87 dollars

#

2 ml120 fans

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(rgb)

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30 each

upper condor
#

150

little osprey
#

pretty sure that 150 dollars is what you should be paying for an h100i

#

the main reason for doing AIOs unless you're doing 360mm or larger is because it looks nice

still roostBOT
#
Mando#4221 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little osprey
#

stuff like d15 is even when black is still ugly

#

don't know what i said that the bot deleted but

upper condor
#

Ok? Would you rather save 60 or have it look pretty

#

Only someone dumb would waste that money

little osprey
#

ram

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clearance

upper condor
#

The u12s is super quiet

#

High performance

#

70

#

Ram clearance also

little osprey
#

and it costs 20$ less than the d15

upper condor
#

Uh huh

little osprey
#

Only someone dumb would waste that money

#

pretty sure thats a waste of money

#

price difference should be 30-50

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not 20

upper condor
#

Why?

#

20 bucka and you get your precious ram clearance

little osprey
#

and some d15s are actually the same price as the u12s

upper condor
#

That everybody needs

#

Yes the ugly ones

#

Im talking about the black u12

#

The non black is 50

latent bronze
upper condor
#

Not like rgb ram is bad and overpriced usually

#

@latent bronze yes see

little osprey
#

its still ugly

#

if you have rgb ram

#

with that

#

i would kms

upper condor
#

But you dont need rgb ram

latent bronze
#

How is that ugly?

little osprey
#

its nearly as wide as the motherboard itself

upper condor
#

Not rlly.....

#

That also doesnt make it ugly

little osprey
#

you were saying

upper condor
#

Radiators are the size of a whole fan

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2 actually

little osprey
#

and you can put it wherever you want

upper condor
#

Thats the ugly one not the black one stupid

#

And no you cant

latent bronze
#

If your build a ITX

little osprey
#

you could leave it unscrewed for all you care

upper condor
#

It depends on the case

little osprey
#

are you stupid?

#

i was referencing it was nearly as wide as the motherboard

#

smh

upper condor
#

But that doesnt make it ugly

little osprey
#

you hurt my brain

upper condor
#

360mm rads are bigger

#

So they are ugly right

little osprey
#

and you can put them wherever you want

#

Thats the point

latent bronze
#

ok but calling someone stupid for asking if you are using a ITX cause ITX is a lot smaller as well

little osprey
#

i called velociraptor stupid

#

and im pretty sure that mobo is ATX

upper condor
#

Yeah but if doing sff then a 120mm aio is useless

little osprey
#

just by how long it is

upper condor
#

And read what I said

little osprey
#

Thats the ugly one not the black one stupid

#

yes?

latent bronze
#

That is a ITX board in the image

upper condor
#

And im saying its ugly because of the color

latent bronze
#

I am using a micro ATX board right now and no way it would that cooler cover most of my board

little osprey
#

you replied to me referencing how wide it was

#

and you said that

upper condor
#

Mando, air cooling is much better price to performance

#

Deal with it

little osprey
#

yes

#

i agree with that

#

thing is

upper condor
#

It also has better performance is some cases

little osprey
#

well duh

upper condor
#

So why is aio better?

latent bronze
#

AIO does give a smaller and cleaning look to be honest

#

But when trying to save money as well air cooled would be better

upper condor
#

I agree

#

They look better

little osprey
#

btw velociraptor i never said AIOs were better than air cooling

upper condor
#

But give no functional boost in performance

little osprey
#

all i said was d15 was ugly and that AIOs aren't a waste of money

upper condor
#

But they are

little osprey
#

So why is aio better?

upper condor
#

Thats the thing

little osprey
#

i never said it was

latent bronze
#

AIO's can be a waste of money depending on which one you're going for

little osprey
#

you are paying the same amount of price if you were buy all the parts separately if not more

upper condor
#

There is a 360mm rad for the price of corsair 240

little osprey
#

and does it have maglev rgb fans worth 60 dollars?

upper condor
#

Lol corsairs doesnt

little osprey
#

yes it does

upper condor
#

You think it costs that much to make them?

little osprey
#

i have one right now

upper condor
#

Its just people that waste their money on it trying to justify it

little osprey
#

Lol corsairs doesnt
are. you. stupid.

upper condor
#

They cost that much