#building-and-recc-chat

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vivid atlas
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What hardware

narrow rose
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i5 9400ish is around a 3600

upper condor
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9600K is what then

narrow rose
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like a nvme ssd or monitors/tvs?

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way better than a 3600

upper condor
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Oh cool

vivid atlas
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Let me check the SSD prices

narrow rose
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like a 3700x ish

vivid atlas
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And monitors are cheaper, but TV prices are equivalent, but I think there are more options available here and it really depends on the model

upper condor
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Whats a 9700K then? 3900X

narrow rose
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in gaming a 9700k is much better

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in workstation tasks a 3700x -3900x is better

upper condor
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Yeag

narrow rose
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also if you can find a deal on a 8700k its technically better than a 9700k

upper condor
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How about case fans, if i get the meshify c are there any rgb fans for cheap

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The 8700K is more expensive like, always

narrow rose
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yeah thats what I run in most of my pcs a 8700k

upper condor
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Hows it better

narrow rose
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there are usually kits of 3 fans that arent too badly priced

upper condor
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The 9700K has higher boost

narrow rose
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8700k has less cores but more threads

upper condor
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I got it

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Ill get an i9 and just play of the intergrated graphics until next year

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When i get a 2080ti

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Im genius

narrow rose
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also my 8700k on my main is OC-ed to 5.3ghz on all cores making the boost thing irrelevant

vivid atlas
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There’s a $40 256GB NVME by Samsung here

upper condor
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Gen4?

vivid atlas
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But it’s a locally sold model

narrow rose
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yeah is it gen 4?

vivid atlas
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Gen 3

upper condor
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Oh ok

narrow rose
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I mean we can get 500GB 970 evo for like $60

upper condor
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Yeah

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But the gen4 is like 60 for 1gb

narrow rose
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yeah gen 4 is stupid expensive

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but with my intel cpus I dont have to worry about it lol

vivid atlas
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It’s like 50 here

narrow rose
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nice at least you get some samsung love

vivid atlas
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53-4 ish maybe

upper condor
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Fr

narrow rose
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best screens are made in your country

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and ssds

vivid atlas
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Samsung LG screens all that

upper condor
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Yeah

vivid atlas
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Yeah I would love trying out a SAmsung SSD but kinda off my budget for now

upper condor
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Mhm

narrow rose
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there are cheaper options that are comparable in speeds

upper condor
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Definitely

vivid atlas
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I’m sure there are

upper condor
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hows this look

vivid atlas
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Looks fine

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But that monitor is 1080p

upper condor
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Ik

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Im upgrading later

narrow rose
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I would not get that expensive of a motherboard

upper condor
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Which should i get then

vivid atlas
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You’ll get a lot of frames at 1080p

upper condor
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Ik

upper condor
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1150 for me

narrow rose
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up to you just seems silly to spend so much on the mobo and not getting a $300+ cpu

prime spear
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Can someone build me a Super good PC For 2-3k on PC Part Picker Monitor/Peripherials also

upper condor
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1080p or 1440p

lime forge
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for 2-3k it better be 1440p

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lmao

prime spear
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Either Or

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Its for a friend and he is going to use it for work

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posted on Facebook he was gonna buy a mac book

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told him not to spend 5grand on something for 2-3k lol

upper condor
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Yeah lol

stoic island
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Ez nice pc

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Like 2080s 3900x nice pc

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Like a mag271cqr monitor

upper condor
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Im helping him with it

stoic island
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G pro wireless with powerplay bc why not

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Just saying

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It's a lot of money

upper condor
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Yeah its gonna be light gaming, heavy workstation

proud helm
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which site is better for ordering parts generally

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amazon or newegg?\

sudden turret
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really??

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lolol

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newegg, duh

subtle halo
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xD

upper condor
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Im on a mission

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i have a budget of 1600 and want to build an epic rgb build

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while not sacrificing too much performance

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1700 nvm

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Could someone help

teal bison
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sure bud

upper condor
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Wow that was fast

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Thanks

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why are those fans so expensive tho wtf

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Sorry but uh i kinda meant like, everythings rgb and not 300 on fans lol

proud helm
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those fans are really nice its corsair pwm so the mobo controls the speed based on the temp. would u rather have chinese ones that are full blast and really loud 24/7

upper condor
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No

proud helm
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you have 1700$ i think ur good bud

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i would get a hub for all those fans

upper condor
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Each three pack comes with one

proud helm
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and add am led strip

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oh

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ok

upper condor
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Yeah

proud helm
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here ill build you on pc partpicker

upper condor
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The price is so weird

proud helm
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brb

upper condor
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Sometimes its like, 70 and then sometimes its 130

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Thanks

cursive wharf
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@proud helm ummmm. You do know there are much cheaper PWN RGB fans

proud helm
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u gonna do any overclocking

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yea ik

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but they quiet af

cursive wharf
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Also, 3 pin can be easily controlled via voltage

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Decently quiet sure. Not worth the more then 4x price increase from say upHere

upper condor
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Probably not doing any OCing right away, ill just use stock fan

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The wraith prism is pretty good ive heard

cursive wharf
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Good stock cooler, not that great of a cooler in general

proud helm
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ok

upper condor
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Ill upgrade cooler later

subtle halo
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prism now had 6 heat pipes

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i dont know if it helps

upper condor
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I thought that was a fake one

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Or something

subtle halo
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AMD Confirms 6-Pipe Wraith Prism Coolers Are Counterfeit xD

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but the design tho its so identical

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xD

upper condor
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I knew it

subtle halo
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also its still free out of the box

upper condor
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Whatever

proud helm
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wait how do i share the pc part picker thing

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😂😂

upper condor
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Copy the link at the top if the page

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Above the start new and all that

proud helm
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its right at the 1700 threshold

upper condor
proud helm
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so you can replace the 2080s with 2070s

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also u need to ask @cursive wharf about psu im not that gut

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guy

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i put a 750 g3 idk if thats good

upper condor
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Thats with everything

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Dont need a 2080s im only playing at 1080p for now

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Will get 1440p 144hz but i can just turn down settings then

proud helm
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ok bet

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wireless mouse?

upper condor
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New one

proud helm
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idc if theyre technology is the fastest i always think wired is faster

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my opinion lol

upper condor
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Yeah might change to deathadder elite its a good mouse for 25 dollars

proud helm
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what did you change i cant tell

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yea

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id say basilisk its more erginomic

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cant spell

upper condor
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2070 to a cheaper one

proud helm
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oh ok

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you gonna order them

upper condor
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Heres the other one i had

proud helm
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i thought you wanted all rgb

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the cooler i sent is rgb

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but idc

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your build

upper condor
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Yeah

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Facts

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Ive spent way too long looking at parts

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Over a month

proud helm
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bruh

upper condor
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A month today actually

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Shush im very undecisive

proud helm
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i dont blame you

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you want to get the best for the monmey

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and its a lot of money

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so

upper condor
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Im spending a lot so i need the best

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My first was so bad

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I spent like 600 on peripherals

proud helm
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are you an experienced builder

upper condor
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In the list

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Ive built a decent amount

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Mostly for incompetent friends

proud helm
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oh ok

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watch a lot of tech vids

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you learn a lot

upper condor
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I know how to

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Dont worry i wouldnt spend this much without knowing how yo

proud helm
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ok

upper condor
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@stark siren what case u got

proud helm
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that nzxt case is literally one of the best mid tower cases for the pirce

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price

upper condor
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Bad airflow

proud helm
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maybe you could get a mid tower with preinstalled rgb like towers that you can see the fan in the front

upper condor
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Yeah

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I wanna get the p400a but its out of stock so its just amazon resellers

cursive wharf
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Razer is not that great for the price tbh

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Also, G3 is overpriced. Pretty meh for what it is

upper condor
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Idk any better brand

proud helm
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thermaltake grand toughpower

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uh

upper condor
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Gor peripherals at least

proud helm
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this is the psu tier list look on there its 80% correct

cursive wharf
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TT is also overpriced for PSUs. Quality is poor comparitive to compitition

proud helm
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bruh

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evga g2

upper condor
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Heis the psu jesus dont defy him

proud helm
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frl

cursive wharf
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G2 is pretty good. Tho usually highly overpriced. Occasionally some sale may make it a good buy

proud helm
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OMG I SUGGESTED A DECENT THING

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HOLY

upper condor
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Ok well heres a question, if you were to spend 1600-1700 what would you get

proud helm
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evga w1 lol

upper condor
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Doesnt need any rgb or anything

proud helm
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the parts i sent you lol

cursive wharf
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However, it apparently follows some P2 issues. Which during a blackout can cause legitimate problems, damaging the PC

proud helm
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except cheaper ram because of rgb

cursive wharf
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RAM can be Ripjaws 3600 or Neo 3600. Make sure it's cl16 timings
As for PSU probs a 650w Phanteks AMP or Corsair RM/RMx

proud helm
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no he should get the evga w2 wdym or the rosewill glacier

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jp

upper condor
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Why tho

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Hows this

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And how could i improve for like 100 dollars

latent bronze
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@upper condor Id go with the EVGA 2070 Super instead

upper condor
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Which one

upper condor
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Ok

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Changed it a bit, hows this

latent bronze
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It is good but one thing and this is just my personal preference is i would use ASRock over Asus

upper condor
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But they only have a super cheap one

latent bronze
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includes WiFi as well if you need

upper condor
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Why is it better just asking

latent bronze
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I tend to find that ASRock is more reliable than Asus even for the whole customer service

upper condor
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Cool

cursive wharf
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212 isn't a good cooler for the price

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Nvm, you changed it. Could maybe change SSD. While it is M2 it isn't NVMe

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Might be able to find an okay 500gb NVMe for that price

latent bronze
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SSD is fine

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If his system is for just gaming and streaming you wont notice anything different between nvme and sata

upper condor
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Is the h500i ok?

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510i*

latent bronze
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Well a lot of people using it but it is not my taste

cursive wharf
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SSD is fine, but overpriced

unkempt beacon
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I need help with uninstalling gpu drivers from an old gpu, and installing new gpu drivers -- may someone help me?

winged hollow
cursive wharf
latent bronze
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@winged hollow when making a personal list make sure to uncheck the make it private

winged hollow
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ah ok ok. will fix

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they are fixed

latent bronze
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So first 1080p gaming and second mild 1440p gaming

winged hollow
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k. which is better for price

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do you think

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1080p and 1440p don’t make a difference to me. as long as it’s over 1080p it’s fine by me. i don’t want like 720p or lower

winged hollow
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@latent bronze

upper condor
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U playing 1080p 144hz?

rose axle
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hello im a new builder and would like to know if some parts i have not ordered yet are any good

upper condor
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What are they

rose axle
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hold on one sec ill send a link

upper condor
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Ok

upper condor
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Get the same kit but 3600

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Whats ur cpu/gpu?

cursive wharf
rose axle
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i already ahve my CPU case SSD and power supply

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i sent the linkl for my build to my friend now i cant get it to you to show you

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but i awnt to know if this GPU is any good

upper condor
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Idk sorry

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Rest is

rose axle
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yeah

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wahat timeis it for you?

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its like 8:08 here

upper condor
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1:09

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Am

rose axle
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F

tranquil dust
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20:10

rose axle
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yeah its the same time

upper condor
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Im not tired tho

tranquil dust
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lol

rose axle
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ok

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do you know if a XFX 570 is any good?

leaden lark
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Can some 1 help me install win10 on my pc

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Its not letting me

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Bringing up a 0x80300001 code

rose axle
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ok i have made about what my current stuff is on this

proud helm
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you changed the m.2 drive why

rose axle
proud helm
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@upper condor

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that wd blue is a sata m.2

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no you goomer

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not

rose axle
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ok

proud helm
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the one i sent is a nvme which is significantly faster in write speed and read speeds

rose axle
proud helm
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@rose axle dont put the windows 10 thing thats a waste of 100$ you can install it for free and activate for 3$ on ebay

rose axle
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ok

proud helm
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also on your budget you don't need that extra cpu cooler

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that psu is bad

rose axle
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psu?

proud helm
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mcaffee is waste windows defender should be just fine as long as you arent stupid lol

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yea evga br is bad

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go for the corsair cs

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cx*

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power supply

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whats your budget?

rose axle
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ive already bought it

proud helm
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oh

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well

rose axle
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its at my house

proud helm
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the psu?

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or the computer

rose axle
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should i not ahve done that?

proud helm
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yea evga br is kinda bad right @cursive wharf ?

rose axle
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the 500W powersupply?

proud helm
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yes

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but

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i mean if you dont do anyting stupid i guess its ok

rose axle
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what is evga

proud helm
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and use a ups

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evga is the company that makes the power supply\

tranquil dust
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evga is a company lmao

rose axle
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oh

proud helm
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whats your budget?

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like how many dollars are you willing to spend

rose axle
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all that stuff is already bought

proud helm
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oh

rose axle
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execpt the hard drive

proud helm
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uh

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even the windows 10 and mcaffe?

rose axle
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no

proud helm
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just the parts?

vivid atlas
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Where’s the GPU ?

proud helm
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oh yea wtf

vivid atlas
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2600 doesn’t have igraphics

rose axle
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the CPU SSD Case and Mother board

proud helm
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whats the case

rose axle
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i know im looking for someone to tell if this one is bad

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the case i fogot

proud helm
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ok its fine

rose axle
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it has two fans tho

proud helm
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nice

cursive wharf
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The BR is pretty cheap. If can be replace I'd suggest so, but doesnt have to be

proud helm
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so my advice now is save yourself 100$ and install windows for free and activate it for 3$ on ebay

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and get rid of mcaffee antivirus

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even if you bought the windows 10 it most likely is pirated

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so installing it via usb thumbdrive is the way to go

proud helm
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yes very

rose axle
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really?

proud helm
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best budget 1080p\

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id say try to go for the 1650 super

rose axle
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thats why i grabbed that monitor

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can you link me it?

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that 1650

proud helm
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yea hold up

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gimme a sec

rose axle
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k

rose axle
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im gonna go with the later

proud helm
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later?

tranquil dust
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latter

rose axle
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$20 more expensive is fine

tranquil dust
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?

rose axle
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latter

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srry

proud helm
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so the 1650s?

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super?

rose axle
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ye

proud helm
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nice

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have you ever built a pc b4

rose axle
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brb

tranquil dust
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yes

rose axle
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k im back

teal bison
tranquil dust
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no

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need more ram

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100%

teal bison
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ok ill try to find room in the budget for more

tranquil dust
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good

rose axle
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im looking at it and im gonna hold off until i get a refund my stuff that i ordered (ram and ahrd drive) got sent tot the wrong adress

proud helm
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rip

rose axle
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yea

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it was my old adress

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but spelt wrong

tranquil dust
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yo can this run the desktop at 1fps

rose axle
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i used to live in tampa

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but they spelled it Takpa

proud helm
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@tranquil dust no

still roostBOT
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arctic.#1347 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

tranquil dust
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WAIT

teal bison
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i think you need another optical drive

tranquil dust
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LMFAO

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WRONG CHAT

proud helm
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?

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what did you say LMFAO

tranquil dust
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the swear was meant for someone else

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@teal bison idk if i can fit that in the budget

proud helm
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you said no no word

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you bad meanie

teal bison
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wtf why are 32 in 1080p monitors $9000

tranquil dust
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😔

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honestly

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idk

rose axle
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guys

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this thing can run doom at 14 fps

proud helm
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dang

tranquil dust
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lucky

teal bison
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pretty sure you could hit 8k 240 fps on that thing

tranquil dust
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only 240?

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looks like itll get ATLEAST 1000

teal bison
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well thats if you are streaming, recording, watching youtube, and programming a game at the same time

tranquil dust
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ohh

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i see

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thats a beast

proud helm
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and running 50 vms

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thats runnning fortnite

teal bison
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i like how with that cpu/gpu, you could probably get like a lot better performance by getting the 3000g for the same price

tranquil dust
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probably lmao

verbal shell
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I’m waiting for income tax

rose axle
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guys

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i broke my friend

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i showed him my PC

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{GIOMEM ASASECOn
I HAV TOHTER TOI DOL

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this is what he said

tranquil dust
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english pls

proud helm
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?

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english

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oh

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his friend said that

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hes saying he broke his friend

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like when you break a keyboard

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you broke his friend when he shows him his pc

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and said that

tranquil dust
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no ik

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im basically saying he spoke tongues

proud helm
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oh

tranquil dust
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yeah lol

subtle halo
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confusing topic

severe oxide
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Oh my god I love the Lancool ii, I mean to be fair I haven’t ever built in particularly nice cases but this thing was just like a whole different thing from the cases I’ve used for my friends

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I have to fill out the space on the right side though

next merlin
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I have 3 pin rgb but my mobo only has 4 pin for rgb. Is there an adaptor to connect 3 pin to 4 pin?

winged hollow
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@cursive wharf my problem is i need liquid cooling as i run way to many things at once

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those things are necessary

cursive wharf
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well what do you run? liquid cooling often doesnt really benefit unless you pour a decent amount of money into it

void mango
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is the wraith spire cooler that comes with the 3700X good enough

vivid atlas
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Every Ryzen stock cooler is "good enough"

void mango
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yes

vivid atlas
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Wasn’t that a question ?

void mango
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yeah

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never had a ryzen stock cooler

vivid atlas
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it'll be fine

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don't push OC though

void mango
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i will oc but not at high levels

teal bison
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might want to get an aftermarket cooler then if you want to

void mango
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i mean as long as its undrr 70 while gaminf should be fine ig

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actually i probs wont oc considering it wont make much of a difference in a 3700X

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ive heard in a 3700x its not worth it

teal bison
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ya not much of a performance increase

void mango
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yeah id overclock ram tho to at least 4000 mhz which i hope does not create too much heat

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is a 700 watt psu enough for a 3700X/5700 XT with ram and gpu overclock

teal bison
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ya

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should be

void mango
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thanks

subtle halo
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yup

viral ore
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Ahhh, someone posted this on Reddit asking for suggestions

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Boy did I have alot of suggestions lmao

lime forge
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thats a yikes right there

teal bison
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theres like

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so much wrong

latent bronze
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@viral ore you can get Windows 10 key for like 115$ less lol

marsh adder
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I'm helping my gf build a pc. It's got an i5-9600k and my old GPU, a 1060 3gb. We didn't order a PSU because I had a few old ones laying about.

She's building it at her dad's house (divorced parents) which is quite far away. Thus if we can't finish the build today it'll be another half month before we can work on it again.

Problem is, none of my old PSUs have the necessary wattage to power these parts. So we're going to order a new PSU and finish the build two weeks from now. I was thinking in the meantime, would it work to have two separate PSUs plugged in, one to power the GPU, and one for the CPU and Mobo?

foggy hazel
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it can work, you just need to shortcircuit the 20(+4) pin cable to start the second psu @marsh adder [Edit: shortcut->shortcircuit]

marsh adder
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Oh right. Paperclip power.

foggy hazel
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as long as you are comfortable with doing that, it can work

marsh adder
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Sure.

ripe olive
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Hi there friends, im thinking of building a pc instead if buying a prebuilt because ive heard its cheaper, and I have a budget of around 1500-1600 dollars

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Im not very good with parts, so could someone help me out?

marsh adder
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Are you familiar with pcpartpicker?

ripe olive
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?

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No

marsh adder
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I can't recommend stuff for that budget as I've only ever done budget builds, but this is always useful: https://pcpartpicker.com

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With $1500 you could probs go with a recent gen i9 and one of the RTX cards.

ripe olive
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Ok thanks

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Sorry I dont actually under stand that but ok

marsh adder
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Ah sorry. I'm not the best person to help then.

ripe olive
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Ok thanks anyway

marsh adder
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👍 good luck.

ripe olive
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Ill need it😁

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If anyone else could help out that would be greatly appreciated

foggy hazel
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@ripe olive what do you plan to use the machine for?

ripe olive
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Mostly playing games

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And just a normal computer

foggy hazel
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streaming?

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as in, you planning on streaming?

ripe olive
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Maybe a bit every once in a while, but no

foggy hazel
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ok

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is that budget only for the computer itself? or does it include monitor and other peripherals?

ripe olive
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Just the computer

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I have everything else

foggy hazel
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what monitor do you have?

ripe olive
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An aoc one

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My friend gave it to me because he upgraded

foggy hazel
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could you find the model number?

ripe olive
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Ill try

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Where would that be?

foggy hazel
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either on the front bezel (edge)

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or on the back together with a bunch of other mumbo-jumbo on a white sticker

ripe olive
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Ok lemme check

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Here it is

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Found it on amazon

foggy hazel
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nice monitor

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okay, that tells me what i need to know about that.

ripe olive
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Max is 1650

foggy hazel
#

now on to how the system will "look"

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Do you need the case to be visually "loud"?

ripe olive
#

Like, cool colors?

foggy hazel
#

or would you prefer a discrete looking case?

#

basically, what i am asking is this:

#

performance or visual being the most important?

ripe olive
#

If its a bit more expensive and doesnt affect performance then i would love if it was a visually attractive

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Computer

foggy hazel
#

is there a size restriction on the case size?

ripe olive
#

Nope

foggy hazel
#

and no preference either?

#

also, do you have a need for wifi?

ripe olive
#

No preference on size

#

Wifi would be nice but not required

foggy hazel
#

it is a simple choice in regards to mainboard to have it included

#

and it is the cheaper way to do it

ripe olive
#

Ok

#

Then yes

foggy hazel
#

cheaper as in: mainboard with wifi is cheaper then mainboard+add-in card

#

do you have any understanding of how much storage you will need @ripe olive ?

ripe olive
#

Not much

#

Just gonna have around 5-10 games at a time

#

And some memes

latent bronze
#

which games

foggy hazel
#

@ripe olive noted.

ripe olive
#

@latent bronze r6, NOT fortnite, civ 5, minecraft(with mods), probably some smaller free games

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CSGO

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Thats it

#

Probably more over time but not mucu

foggy hazel
#

storage is not a problem at all

#

so dont worry about it

latent bronze
#

Give or take for storage would need 500gb to 1tb

ripe olive
#

Are games smaller on pc?

#

I have an xbox with a 2tb external drive

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And use about half

foggy hazel
#

they are about the same same

#

sometimes bigger, sometimes a bit smaller

ripe olive
#

I di have 60 games installed......

latent bronze
#

CS GO isn't really that big and other games like R6S and Civ 5 would be between 20gb to 70gb

foggy hazel
#

@ripe olive i have a couple of case suggestions for you. Would you prefer just getting the names (so you can look them up yourself) or would you prefer links?

latent bronze
#

i don't own minecraft so i don't know the exact amount of storage needed with mods and for the smaller free games for most that i know is usually between 5gb and 20gb

ripe olive
#

Just names

foggy hazel
#

@latent bronze could you go back to your game instead? what you are talking about is of no importance :)

#

case suggestions: Fractal Design Define Mini C

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note that both cases come in variants

#

both colour and window wise

ripe olive
#

Be quiet one looks nice

#

Looking at other

#

They both look nice

foggy hazel
#

the mini c is slightly smaller

#

both are nice cases to work with

ripe olive
#

Are smaller cases cheaper?

foggy hazel
#

not really

#

some of the really small ones are very expensive

#

same goes for some of the really big ones

ripe olive
#

Mhm

#

Any good medium-sized ones?

foggy hazel
#

because both extremes are very niche

#

what i linked you

#

is imo a good investment of a case

#

because i would recommend looking at case purchases as an investment

#

you will have it for a LONG time

ripe olive
#

Mhm

foggy hazel
#

just like a good psu

ripe olive
#

Ill do more research into cases

foggy hazel
#

a good case will last you a very long time

ripe olive
#

Definitely

foggy hazel
#

aye aye, no problem on the case :)

#

everything else can easily adjust to whatever you end up with as your choice of case

ripe olive
#

What about all the core components

#

What should i get for those

foggy hazel
#

i have a list building

ripe olive
#

Oh ok

latent bronze
#

A good case could also cost between 50$ to 80$

foggy hazel
#

i am going to add a "placeholder" case to the list. so that there is room in the budget for it

ripe olive
#

Ok

latent bronze
#

@ripe olive If you were planning on building a system with a micro ATX board the MasterBox Q300L from Cooler Master is very good

ripe olive
#

Id prefer medium sized

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So building is easier?

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More room

foggy hazel
#

there is not any problem with space in any of these cases

#

dont worry about it

ripe olive
#

Ok

foggy hazel
#

the budget you have, automatically keeps you away from the really cheap razor sharp budget cases

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and you dont seem to have any interest in a super small build (where size is a premium)

ripe olive
#

Yeah no i dont

foggy hazel
#

so, as said, you dont have to worry about it

ripe olive
#

Ok thanks

latent bronze
#

@ripe olive Do you plan on playing said games at 1080p or 1440p and also do you have intentions on streaming

foggy hazel
#

i would recommend that you read the backlog, those questions have been answered.

ripe olive
#

Yeah just 1080p

#

Might upgrade later if prices change

latent bronze
#

and streaming or no?

ripe olive
#

Rarely

#

Dont totally have time so no

latent bronze
#

Ok so pretty much your build might actually cost less than what you would be planning on

#

If you don't plan on streaming the GPU of choice would be a RX 5700/RX 5700 XT

foggy hazel
#

@ripe olive did you have a look around for cases or?

ripe olive
#

Haven't found a good one

#

Might take a little more

foggy hazel
#

okay, i will place a (not cheap) placeholder then :)

ripe olive
#

If i could make it cost less with the same performance that would be nice

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And then I could make it look awesome

foggy hazel
#

here is what @latent bronze forgets when he mentions what he does

#

balance of the build, use-case, performance follows price.

ripe olive
#

Mhm

foggy hazel
#

not saying that spending 2000 on a gpu would be a good idea

#

obviously

#

however, things are not black and white in regards to choices.

ripe olive
#

Yeah

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I dont know why people spend as much as they do

#

It doesnt help having over 300 frames does it?

foggy hazel
#

well, there are plenty of people that would consider your build very expensive

ripe olive
#

And a few that think of it as pocket changw

foggy hazel
#

as in, just the thought of (for them) having a budget like that

#

aye, it goes both ways

ripe olive
#

Exactly

foggy hazel
#

you got the ability to jump on voice chat for a rundown on "why" the parts i have chosen are on the list?

ripe olive
#

Not right now, but maybe in like 10 minutes?

latent bronze
#

For competitive games like CS GO people want to have 300 frames

foggy hazel
#

no rush @ripe olive

ripe olive
#

Is there like, a list that you could send that i could look at?

foggy hazel
#

aye, just saving it now

ripe olive
#

Thanks

foggy hazel
#

keep in mind, there are a bunch of details that you are missing

#

but that is the list

ripe olive
#

Yeah

foggy hazel
#

and that is the higher end version

#

with parts chosen for getting a feel for the budget

#

while some parts are chosen more expensive than they have to be

#

and that is done on purpose, because it is part of what we are going to talk about :)

ripe olive
#

Why does it say it needs an update ir something

foggy hazel
#

it doesnt

#

as in, yes, the site says it does. but it doesnt in reality

ripe olive
#

Oh ok

#

Im surprised you fit so much in that budget

#

The prebuilys that price had like a 2060 i5 for over that

foggy hazel
#

aye

#

keep in mind, you are paying for the assembly too

#

and that is not only "time to actually build it"

ripe olive
#

What else?

#

Setting it up?

foggy hazel
#

learning/knowing how to assemble it

ripe olive
#

True

#

Hey i got time

foggy hazel
#

aye aye

#

just saying, that time has a cost :)

#

and that is some of the difference .)

ripe olive
#

Yeah definitely

#

But if anyrhing goes wrong it will be fine

#

Because i will know how to fix it

#

Or sorta know how to

foggy hazel
#

aye

ripe olive
#

If i were to make it look super cool(colors and whatnot) how would i do that

#

Or start to do that

#

Because i have no doubt that this build would work well, but maybe not be the nicest looking

#

(Not critiquing your choices, love them)

foggy hazel
#

hey, i dont pick for visual, i picked for performance :)

#

if you could not critique the visual, you would have a fairly odd taste :)

ripe olive
#

Very true

latent bronze
#

3800X and don't even slap on a DH15?

foggy hazel
#

reading the text would benefit you @latent bronze :) it is part of the things that needs to be talked about. Because placeholder

upper condor
#

With a mild oc a u12 is more than enough

#

I am so surprised you fit so much eow

#

wow

latent bronze
#

You do know for the games he mentioned and if not streaming he could just spend a lot less for a RX 5700/5700 XT

foggy hazel
#

as i said, reading could benefit you

sullen spoke
ripe olive
#

Haha

#

I definitely understand that

foggy hazel
#

@ripe olive ready for that chat?

ripe olive
#

One sec finishing my gane

#

Game*

foggy hazel
#

fair enough :)

ripe olive
#

Dead :(

#

Ok ready

little osprey
#

Alright\

foggy hazel
#

is there a specific reason that you are making things harder for yourself in regards to ram?

viral ore
#

Any particular reason for 32gb of ram?

little osprey
#

Why not

#

this is my gfs pc so

viral ore
#

For most tasks, 16gb is more than enough

little osprey
#

okay

viral ore
#

Is she doing any heavy video editing?

#

Or making a ramdisk?

#

If not, just one 2x8 is good enough

little osprey
#

no video editing just streaming

foggy hazel
#

@little osprey you planning on running a hefty OC on that?

little osprey
#

maybre

#

she wants to stream siege and pubg so probably

foggy hazel
#

ditch the water and get a thirdgen cpu instead

little osprey
#

edit it please lol

foggy hazel
#

1100 limit?

little osprey
#

1200

foggy hazel
#

do you know if her audio equipment is usb based or not? @little osprey

little osprey
#

its audio jacks

foggy hazel
#

okay :)

#

this is a different take on it @little osprey

#

i kept the mainboard, because the audio chip is as good as it gets on a mainboard

#

and finding a replacement that might be a bit cheaper will take some time.

#

i cut the ram to 16gig total

#

side graded the m.2 ssd, because price

#

upgraded the gpu because room in budget

#

upgraded psu, because it makes sense to have something decent in a system like this.

#

sadly pcpartpicker does not list audiochips in their mainboard section

little osprey
#

ok

#

is the 3800x worth the extra 150 dollars?

hidden sleet
#

hai

foggy hazel
#

IF there is made further room in the budget, the next thing is a proper air cooler

#

think of it as not having to oc at all

little osprey
#

I mean just throw a water cooler in it because ill be mostly paying for it anyways

foggy hazel
#

and just letting it do its own thing.

deep patio
#

I just joined this chat and was about to ask for help on a gaming build with 1100 budget

little osprey
#

ok

foggy hazel
#

water is wasted.

little osprey
#

really?

foggy hazel
#

yes, really

little osprey
#

hmm alright just add a good air cooler she wanted some rgb

hidden sleet
#

is there any newegg staff available to chat?

foggy hazel
#

unless you have a serious need to remove a metric ton of heat? water is a waste.

little osprey
#

okay

foggy hazel
#

that is with a good air cooler, yes, you could pay more for a bigger chunk of metal, but you dont need it.

#

@deep patio lucky :)

#

@hidden sleet ask @inner sphinx

hidden sleet
#

hey darklord

deep patio
#

oof

foggy hazel
#

send him a pm.

hidden sleet
#

ok

deep patio
#

IDK much about computers etc. but that should be enough for 120FPS+ 1080p medium settings right?

foggy hazel
#

yes

#

mind, if you dont need the extra storage, remove the barracuda drive @deep patio

deep patio
#

hmm

foggy hazel
#

and potentially go to the 3700x instead

#

that will bring you closer to 1100

deep patio
#

feel like my library is 300GB XD

foggy hazel
#

that is without the mech drive and without the nice air cooler.

#

the stock cooler is plenty fine for stock

deep patio
#

i wont need to OC so thats fine

#

should I wait tho? I heard about new gen

#

or something along those lines

foggy hazel
#

new gen of "what"?

deep patio
#

cpu

foggy hazel
#

because there is always a new gen of something on the way

deep patio
#

ii read something about cpus and GPUs

foggy hazel
#

nothing new right now in regards to cpu on the desktop platform

deep patio
#

oh ok

foggy hazel
#

there is always rumours about the competition having a "faster! better!" thing right around the corner

deep patio
#

makes sense

foggy hazel
#

i have not seen a single semi-competent rumour about that thou

deep patio
#

i think it was new GPU leaks

#

maybe

foggy hazel
#

so, if you want/need a new system, then now is the time.

#

you are above the budget for what was "just" released (which was the 5600xt)

#

that is a 280usd card

deep patio
#

no no Ik that XD just to see if prices go down

foggy hazel
#

they wont

#

people still buy parts, so the prices we have now, for better and worse are roughly where we are stuck for a while.

deep patio
#

Hmm ok

foggy hazel
#

@little osprey you saw the updated list with the air cooler right?

deep patio
#

Ive been trying to game on PC for a while npw. Gonna use all the moneys I had saved for console new gen on tis XD

foggy hazel
#

fair enough :)

little osprey
#

yes

#

thnaks

foggy hazel
#

you are very welcome @little osprey

deep patio
#

Do you know how much I can get a 144hz display for?

foggy hazel
#

150+

#

ish

deep patio
#

I have keyboard and mouse but Im switching from a 40in TV.

foggy hazel
#

150 for a 24" 1080p@144hz

#

185usd if you want that as a 27"

deep patio
#

i see theres TN and VA panels

foggy hazel
#

have fun :)

deep patio
#

thx

#

phew

#

@foggy hazel thx

foggy hazel
#

you are welcome :)

#

and yes, it was not that i didnt want to explain, but it is easier with pictures etc

deep patio
#

yeh

#

im an IPS dude

#

definetly, take all my moneys but make it look nice

foggy hazel
#

:)

#

then the price is going to be quite different on the monitors

#

24" 1080p@144 is 180 usd

#

27" is 210

deep patio
#

i saw this one and reviews werent bad

#

ASUS VG279Q 27"

foggy hazel
#

aye, it is also 290 usd

deep patio
#

yep I'll keep looking tho

foggy hazel
#

aye aye :)

deep patio
#

I feel like I'll embarrass myself rn

upper condor
#

What

deep patio
#

about the OS, Windows 10 64-bit right?

upper condor
#

What about it

deep patio
#

home*

#

is that it? XD

upper condor
#

Yeah

foggy hazel
#

home works fine

upper condor
#

dont buy the 99 one

foggy hazel
#

@deep patio there are NO stupid questions. only silly answers

deep patio
#

ah... thx that makes me feel better

#

@upper condor wdym?

upper condor
#

The key that they sell

#

but from another website

foggy hazel
#

see pm @upper condor

upper condor
#

Up to you

wispy matrix
#

Naed

foggy hazel
#

yes @wispy matrix ?

upper condor
#

Nae nae

wispy matrix
#

Amd or intel

foggy hazel
#

depends on workload

upper condor
#

Depends on what youre doing

#

And budget

wispy matrix
#

I have my budget and I’m on the part picker website

foggy hazel
#

unless you convey the workload, we cannot answer you

eager chasm
#

Usually in most cases AMD is the better value currently

wispy matrix
#

I am gaming and a bit of designing and some streaming and a budget of 1200

foggy hazel
#

amd

#

nvidia

#

2sec, i just put together another build that will most likely fit you quite nicely

cursive wharf
#

3700x and tomahawk then put extra money towards quieter cooler?

foggy hazel
#

tomahawk is bad value for what it is, unless you specifically want to OC the pants of it

#

the reason for the strix in that list is the soundchip

#

so @wispy matrix unless your audio equipment is usb? the only sensible replacement is another board with the 1220 chip on it.

eager chasm
#

quieter cooler? the prism isn't really loud to begin with 🤔

foggy hazel
#

it is not, but IF the money is there in the budget, i would agree that the next thing to upgrade would be a air cooler.

wispy matrix
#

This is what I did by myself

foggy hazel
#

you cut the wrong drive

#

the ssd is worth every cent

#

and then some

#

also, that mainboard is not giving you any benefit that you can actually use

#

and the ram is slower

wispy matrix
#

Just give me some motherboards and a better drive

foggy hazel
#

i already did in the original setup

#

also, water is imo wasted

#

but IF you want water, that is fine

#

but you dont NEED water

wispy matrix
#

Ik about the water part

foggy hazel
#

then stick with that i sent you the first time around

#

and take a different case

wispy matrix
#

So no CPU cooler

foggy hazel
#

there is one in the box with the cpu

wispy matrix
#

Ok

#

Here’s the updated

foggy hazel
#

still not an SSD in there.

#

and that is not the updated one

#

same link name

wispy matrix
#

oops wrong one

foggy hazel
#

still no ssd

wispy matrix
#

I’m soon gonna change the case but what’s ssd

teal bison
#

i think the tomahawk max is better than the b450-f

#

right?

foggy hazel
#

@teal bison if you are not oc'ing the pants of the cpu. no.

#

it has a lowend soundchip

#

vrm quality is way way overrated for consumer setups

#

@wispy matrix ssd = solid state disk. Think of it like a super fast harddrive

teal bison
#

ok then why not just get like a b450m pro-m2 max?

foggy hazel
#

because bad soundchip

teal bison
#

unless the rear io is bad

#

oh ok

foggy hazel
#

the strix has a 1220

#

the one you mentioned has a 887

wispy matrix
#

So what about the Samsung 860 Evo

foggy hazel
#

other one makes more sense performance and price ratio wise @wispy matrix

latent bronze
#

@wispy matrix the board you picked isn't updated out of the box

foggy hazel
#

it is ecks

#

unless the vendor has stock from before the launch date of the ryzen 3000 series

#

F40 is the bios version that has support, that bios version was released in mid may last year iirc

eager chasm
eager chasm
#

Ecks look lower

latent bronze
#

Well Newegg would have to update the information then

wispy matrix
#

Pics are not loading

foggy hazel
#

vendor page info is NOT reliable unless you have specifically verified it yourself.

#

manufacturer info and common sense ... generally work better

wispy matrix
#

I’m looking at motherboards

eager chasm
#

that board is Ryzen 3000 ready, ignore Ecks

foggy hazel
#

@wispy matrix 887 chip too

wispy matrix
#

I see what’s wrong with that also

foggy hazel
#

anyone aware of a mainboard list that contains the soundchips too?

eager chasm
#

the MSI B450M Gaming Plus doens't have a Ryzen 3000 ready anywhere on it

foggy hazel
#

nope, but it is however able to be flashed without a cpu, so it is basically "ready" @eager chasm

wispy matrix
#

When I looked up 887 it came up with ASRock X570M Pro4

eager chasm
#

mainboard with sound chips?

foggy hazel
#

@wispy matrix that makes no sense, the Pro4 has the 1200 chip

eager chasm
#

uh Dont mother boards have them usually?

foggy hazel
#

its the version of them @eager chasm

wispy matrix
#

Naed I’m new to this

eager chasm
#

if there is an audio out on my MB that's all I care about Dumb

foggy hazel
#

aye, i know @wispy matrix :)

#

what i was looking for was something like this

#

@eager chasm

#

if you scroll to the CD column, you will see the realtek chip names listed

#

@wispy matrix let me just quickly modify a list for you.

wispy matrix
#

Plz do I’m going brain dead

foggy hazel
#

sorry about the information overload :)

wispy matrix
#

It’s fine

foggy hazel
#

IF you can live with the budget being 1206 usd

#

then that is a solid build

#

@wispy matrix the above link is for you.

wispy matrix
#

Ik

foggy hazel
#

ok :) just making certain :)

wispy matrix
#

I’m just doing something rq

foggy hazel
#

no rush

wispy matrix
#

6 dollars is not a big difference lol

foggy hazel
#

it is technically above the budget you set, hence i mention it :)

wispy matrix
#

its above the budget i set but atleast its not 1500

eager chasm
#

that case is sooo boring XD

#

not even a window

wispy matrix
#

thats the one thing i dont like

foggy hazel
#

yes, the case if boring, but it is a solid case

#

and in the performance vs budget case? it wins

#

if you are willing to spend a bit more, then choose a different case

wispy matrix
foggy hazel
#

never built in one of those myself.

#

so i cannot comment on it

sullen spoke
foggy hazel
#

i dont think there is a variant of fractal design case i have not built in on the other hand

wispy matrix
#

ik

foggy hazel
#

yes, absolutely, but my personal requirement is that i have built in them

#

or i would not recommend them

latent bronze
#

Problem with the case you posted Beast is all lights no real airflow

eager chasm
#

DIY PC cases can be a pain to build in sometimes, but they are cheap and usually have good airflow

little osprey
#

Rip kobe

latent bronze
#

Deepcool as well can be a real pain to build in

foggy hazel
#

i would have to take your word for that @eager chasm and i have not interacted enough with you to trust you to that extent.

little osprey
#

Oof

eager chasm
#

Dumb fair enough

wispy matrix
#

i can also get a nzxt case also

foggy hazel
#

aye, you could

proud helm
#

are deepcool cases good

eager chasm
#

inb4 the NZXT meme case with it's sub-par airflow

little osprey
#

no

#

Cooldeep better

#

Yes

ripe olive
#

@slim jetty for what

latent bronze
#

@wispy matrix When picking a case always airflow first and looks second

little osprey
#

It give good fps

ripe olive
#

Woah there

proud helm
#

hey

#

this is pg 13 chat

ripe olive
#

@sudden turret reeeeeee

wispy matrix
#

@latent bronze give me a break

eager chasm
#

@sudden turret someone avoiding the filter for racial slurs above

little osprey
#

He black it's ok