building-and-recc-chat

[sacred obsidian]

yeah i know and discords compression sucks lol

[next nymph]

But I don’t see any bent pin

[cedar portal]

looks ok to me

[sacred obsidian]

take a pic of the actual socket as well

[cursive wharf]

@cedar portal Grand RGB also isnt that great. For $90 you can get the Phanteks AMP which is significantly better quality
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W6S2ZJP?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[cedar portal]

@cursive wharf roger that

[sacred obsidian]

yeah no i dont see anything out of the ordinary from the pics, so maybe your cpu is fine

what mobo do you have

[next nymph]

Asus X470-F

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/77JMwh

This is my build

[sacred obsidian]

the only thing throwing me off is, that little hole in the middle

that looks liek something is supposed to be there

but idk i cant find a clear picture of the socket online

[cedar portal]

Maybe? Even Newegg's product images can't zoom the close.

[muted patio]

Still looking lol

[cedar portal]

maybe not

https://www.overclock3d.net/gfx/articles/2018/04/12091149644l.JPG
there doesn't appear to be anything there

[muted patio]

Ehm, hang on

[cedar portal]

you can zoom in here: https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/asus_rog_strix_x470-f_gaming_review/2

[sacred obsidian]

i mean i found this which also appears to be a hole

[next nymph]

IIRC that hole has always been there

[sacred obsidian]

yeah it appears as normal

[muted patio]

Zoom in on that

Looks like something sticking in the socket

Open Original

And check the corresponding area of the CPU carefully

[stoic island]

Gawd damn Bekora with the 20/20 vision

[sacred obsidian]

i noticed that but it looks similar to the ones around it

[muted patio]

No, it doesn't

[sacred obsidian]

looks about the same depth

[muted patio]

There's a shiny ball in the middle

[cedar portal]

gonna have to get a magnifying glass and look

[muted patio]

It lights up different than the ones around it

[next nymph]

Yeah

I’ll check it out later

[muted patio]

Might be nothing, IDK

Only thing I saw

[cedar portal]

that honestly looks like a trick of the light

[next nymph]

It might just be the light reflection but I’ll check anyways

[sacred obsidian]

i brushed it off cause it looks to be same depth as others and same shape, just not quite as dark. if the pin broke off itd be quite a bit higher imo

[next nymph]

But it’s not a pin

[cedar portal]

check the pins on teh CPU in that same area and see if any of them are shorter than the rest

[muted patio]

Right, might not be a whole pin

[next nymph]

Or it might be something else that’s preventing contact

[sacred obsidian]

bekora

you might be right

i noticed this iregularity earlier, i just counted the pins

thats the same area

[next nymph]

Hmm, you might be right. I'll check it out later

I’m checking it right now and can’t find anything

No missing or damaged pins as far as I can see

[muted patio]

I mean, worst case is reinstall it, reseat all of your ram and check the BIOS

[next nymph]

And the motherboard doesn’t have anything

[muted patio]

Might be worth a CMOS reset also

[next nymph]

I’ve already tried resetting the CMOS

And I tried many RAM combinations

[muted patio]

Could be damage we can't see

SO hard to say in this case

[next nymph]

Hmm, apparently it works now on the first slots

I suppose there was something in there

[sacred obsidian]

maybe it wasnt seated all the way

your ram should be in slot 2 and 4

if you only have 2

[muted patio]

Lol, like the old NES. pul the cartridge out, blow in the slot, put it back in and BAM. It works.

[sacred obsidian]

yeah but thats super weird. never heard of something stop working and then randomly start working again in that manor

unless he just didnt give it enough tim to boot

[next nymph]

No, I left it around 5 minutes at a time and the RAM error light stated on

I have the RAM in 2 and 4

[sacred obsidian]

oh yeah if the ram error light was on then you were having a ram issue

which is weird

but good thing its working again lol

[next nymph]

I will run some tests and if it works correctly I’ll install the new cooler tomorrow

This time I’ll be more careful

[sacred obsidian]

alright good luck!

[next nymph]

Thanks! And thanks to everyone that helped me!

[sacred obsidian]

its what we're here for

[median sail]

I can’t remember if it’s ok to. Use liquid metal between ihs and the cooler

Or if it’s just that you use it in the actual die

If you delid

My brain is being very dumb right now

Because I’m about to do both

Because I know for GPu they just put straight on die before you put in in water block but

Idk if you don’t delid if you can just use it as paste instead

[muted patio]

Don't put it on the lid

It will eat the metal

[cursive wharf]

It will also eat the die over long periods of time

[strong crescent]

What is good motherboard upgrade for my rygen 2700x or should I upgrade my gpu which is a gtx 1070 windstrike oc from gigabyte.

[cursive wharf]

Unless you're running a320 you shouldnt really have a reason to upgrade your mobo. As for GPU you'd looking at a pretty pricy upgrade, at least $300 and then some OCing for what'd be just a moderate upgrade (2060 KO). Probs spending $350 on a decent 5700 with a flashed XT bios would get you performance that'd be worthy of the upgrade

[foggy hazel]

@cursive wharf the 2060 KO is a evga exclusive variant (it is one of their old old series that have been revived)

[charred plank]

hi guys, i am considering to have a pc only not including monitor and peripherals with a max budget of usd1,000 as of now, i am considering some of these general parts

amd r5 3600
any 4xx chipset motherboard
rtx2060 super
2tb hdd

if there's a suggestion to add to my build, i am okay with that, my last rig was 13 years ago and i have been using laptops since then, ssd/nvme is optional to me since i never had privileges to use them due to budget constraints in the past, of course, this will be a full system build with case and power supply included. i live in a country where i can't buy anything from newegg directly, so i am considering to ask opinion from you guys as about general items being suggested and i will cross check the local prices

p.s, local market in where i live in, usually has renowned brands being sold such as gigabyte, asus, some are asrock and biostar, msi i think present as well but i didn't pay much of an attention to that.

[foggy hazel]

that budget would normally contain a ssd in some shape

it is a part that is well worth sacrificing something else for.

it would be helpfull if you can give the country you are located in.

because then when potential parts are being suggested, it can be checked if it is available

[charred plank]

i live in Malaysia, particularly close to Brunei

this pc is not so urgent as of yet as i am still waiting for other things to come into place first, but i think i should ask first

[foggy hazel]

any idea about roughly when you plan to purchase ?

[charred plank]

not anytime soon probably mid year, my house doesn't have any internet so it is particularly useless to own such pc without any connections to the world in my opinion

[foggy hazel]

:)

so what you are looking for is basically a general chat about what parts will in theory suit you

[charred plank]

while right now i am using a laptop, asus k501lx to be precise

yes

[foggy hazel]

then i would say: just lurk if possible :)

[charred plank]

hahaha

i guess i would have to ask again when i am going to buy for real

[foggy hazel]

aye

it is way too far away now

and if that is the timeframe (6-ish months)

then i would not recommend that you start picking up the individual parts yet

because IF you have DOA parts? that is going to be annoying to deal with 5-6 months later when you can actually test the parts

[charred plank]

i see

[onyx ice]

Hello, what do you think about this built, do I have to make any changes to make it better? Budget is around 1200, and for sometimes need to use wifi. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dpYZFG

[vivid atlas]

Good build, if you really wanted to save some money you could consider getting a 3600 instead of 3600X since it would handle a 5700 XT properly

But that’s up to you

[foggy hazel]

you could save a bit of money by going with a mainboard that has Wifi built-in

[vivid atlas]

Also, there are some cases with better airflow than that NZXT one if I’m not mistaken

[onyx ice]

Friend said, that if wifi part somehow crash on mobo with wifi built-in, it would be a pain 😅 that's why I chose adapter.
With a case yes, maybe better could be, būt don't want to go over 80 for it.

[foggy hazel]

built-in wifi is fine

and IF it stops working completely, at that point, buy a add-in

also, please tell your friend that he doesnt know what he is talking about :)

[onyx ice]

But there isn't decent mobo with wifi for less than 150, couldn't find one 😅

[foggy hazel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/43BTwP/gigabyte-b450-aorus-pro-wifi-rev-10-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-aorus-pro-wifi-rev-10

or easier to see

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#G=95,31,79&sort=price&page=1&X=0,16000

[onyx ice]

B450 arorus pro wifi, is it friendly with 3000 AMD? Won't need to flash it?

[foggy hazel]

depends on how new the stock the shop has is

boards that have bios f40 or newer (talking about the Aorus here), will support 3rd gen

F40 was released for download 2019/05/16

[onyx ice]

Nice, good to know, thanks

[foggy hazel]

also, most, if not all vendors are usually quite happy to tell you what bios version a given board has

because it helps them, help you better

and cuts down on rma

[dark thistle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FQ8kjp
Build thoughts?

[cursive wharf]

@dark thistle I wouldn't get a 750w of that PSU quality, 550w is fine. Also you have the cpu but upgrading the mobo?

[timber vessel]

Can anyone give me a parts list that will play escape from tarkov on high at 100fps? Starting from scratch.

Or 100+ im kinda on a budget

[next nymph]

Hi

I’m installing a cooler on my PC but the fan splitter has one 4 pin connector and one 3 pin

Is it missing a pin or is it supposed to be like that?

[stoic island]

@next nymph thats normal

[celest horizon]

The missing pin is what sends back the fan rpm to the board - the 4th pin is a pwm data signal to control fan speed. >1 tach pin connected would double, triple etc rpm haha

[stoic island]

Afaik splitters usually split 4 pin into 3 pin and 4 pin

[celest horizon]

Ya, but fans barely sip current usually - so it's not rare to see 3-4+ fans off a single pwm 4 pin header

[little osprey]

Alright folks say you are building a Gaming Tower for a Total of $1,400, what would you build? (Feel Free to DM)

Starting with a case.

hey guys is it safe to put cables behind the psu?

i’m cable managing rn

[sacred obsidian]

what do you mean

[stoic island]

1400$ is either 5700xt or 2070s

With either a 3700x or 3600

Cant check prices rn

[little osprey]

2070 super dropped its price to $499

[cursive wharf]

@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kWcndm

probs get an NVMe or something cuz you still have $70 left to spend

Also note, 2070S always had the $500 price

[little osprey]

Ahh

[stoic island]

Wierd cooler pick

[cursive wharf]

thermalright is an underrated cooler brand

[stoic island]

Huh

Isnt one of the dark rock at the 50$ also

[cursive wharf]

no. the non pro might be close tho

but pro 4 is like $90

[celest horizon]

Markedly less capable vs the pro tho

[stoic island]

Not talking pro 4

Wait
Isnt mugen rev b good at the price point?

[cursive wharf]

yeah, but is out of stock or prices rose

[stoic island]

Ah

[cursive wharf]

as it isnt listed for $50

(sorted by lowest price and went to $50 mark)

[stoic island]

I haven't seen that psu before, but if its good thats fine

[cursive wharf]

I dont know much of Phantek's PSU lineup, just know that the AMP is pretty decent

[little osprey]

That build is great, gonna replace the 550w for a 700w PSU and throw is some Noctua Case Fans.

[celest horizon]

mugen/ninja both good perf/$, gammax400 $20 is great

[stoic island]

Not necessary for more fans, but you could if you want

[celest horizon]

Arctic P12/P14 5 pack is $30

[stoic island]

550w is enough, but if you want to future proof, like 650 is fine.

[little osprey]

Yeah, I am future proofing for down the line.

[stoic island]

(Spatula those fans are fine but like noctua fans are like 20 bucks each lol)

[cursive wharf]

@little osprey voltage ripple/regulation, transient response, protections, is/isnt group regulated, cap quality, fan quality, noise, and multi rail are some things to consider when thinking about PSUs

cant just pick one randomly

[stoic island]

Or, look at ltt PSU tier list

Makes it easier

[cursive wharf]

They arent always correct tho, but mostly

[stoic island]

Its a good source for generally how good the psu is

Ofc you can look deeper into it, but definally a good first look

[cursive wharf]

yeah. Anyways back to PSUs and why 750w isnt that great of an idea, I'd generally associate a 750w PSU with a 2.5k+ PC, at which point when considering how clean the power should be, the PSU would probably cost like 130 or more

550w - 650w is where I'd stay

[stoic island]

I'm just going for 750w bc I can pour a fair bit of money into my build over the years

Like I'd like to have a good chance of putting high end hardware in after a few years and be fine with this psu

[little osprey]

Well currently I am building a new rig. My current rig is about $1.2 at the moment. That is running a 700W Vega PSU

No problems other than Radeon Drivers.

[cursive wharf]

stock 3950x + 2080Ti wont even pull more then 650w

even with a moderate OC I doubt it would pull that

a decent OC would tho

[stoic island]

(You see Hei, I'm planning on highest end gear in 2-3 years)

Aka like 4080ti

[cursive wharf]

heighest end xx80Ti card has always been 300w or 375w since the removal of dual GPUs on a single PCB for consumers (690 was the last iirc)

[celest horizon]

I wouldn't fixate on the rating - look at the sales, look at Luke's list - if something pops out, that's your bet

HOF 2080 ti power limit is 400+ , same with trio

Highest launch power limit was the ftw3 at 373, many reference PCB/FE were 280/300 iirc, but all got an official update to 320

[cursive wharf]

Well, always been the special cards (like HOF) that had higher power limits
But the general card is going to stay at the 300/375 unless another GTX 480 happens

[stoic island]

But eh, I like overkill

And also overclocking

[cursive wharf]

but, as Ive said, your PSU price should be proportional to your total PC cost. So for the LTT list I'd be getting an A+ PSU or better if it were 750w+

which are kinda pricy (but so will be the PC)

As sadly Bitfenix disappeared.

Also, Spatula as you seem a bit more informed about these fun things, do you know what happened to Bitfenix?

I assume Tariffs?

[little osprey]

Ouch.

[celest horizon]

Turing cards are well pair with more PSU headroom than most people think they need. Especially the uP9512P cards like the EVGAs

No idea, I don't really read/watch tech news lol

[cursive wharf]

Sucks cuz they were so good for the price. Like same price as A tier but being A+

[celest horizon]

Don't put too much decisionmaking weight the initial reviews - al kinds of issues can be impossible to detect, predict etc

[little osprey]

I would like to say thank you though Hei the build guide and information.

[celest horizon]

Google the corsair hx620 - probably the best example of this, around late 2000's - glowing reviews, easily double digit 1 year failure rate lol - but thes days PSU's are just plain better across the board

[cursive wharf]

like double digit % or raw numbers?

[celest horizon]

I just skimmed the threads, idk who really knows. I think jhonnyguru said he thought it was probably single digits - still huge vs the norm, then or now

Failure mode + what else it nukes along with it are vitally important IMO as pure reliability for $$ builds

Servers just run failover/load balancing boards, so non issue

[cursive wharf]

Well, 10 PSU failures out of I assume the multiple thousands that are made dont seem super duper bad

[celest horizon]

I think hundreds of thousands were made or more

I meant single digit percent

[cursive wharf]

yeah, makes more sense

@little osprey np. As something to consider, with the remaining money you could up your PC with a 1tb SATA drive and 650w PSU, or 512 NVMe and 650w PSU. Should still be able to fit a larger PSU which can still help with upgradability

or just a 1tb NVMe and same 550w PSU

[mossy citrus]

is the 2060s a good 1440p gpu?
or is the 5700 better

[sullen spoke]

depends on the game, but mostly 5700 is a bit faster at 1440p

[plush harness]

i need help deciding on a few parts.anyone willing to help

[proud helm]

sure

@plush harness

i have a little time so if i dont respond then im prob gone

[worn monolith]

I am lookin g for a server workstation preferable a tower low noice,

virtualization, can spin upto 30 VMS

expandable memory

can anyone suggest the configuration

[gentle bay]

Hows this bench

UserBenchmarks: Game 100%, Desk 90%, Work 78%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X - 95.2%
GPU: AMD RX 5700-XT - 109.7%
SSD: Samsung 860 Evo 1TB - 99.8%
RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z RGB DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB - 69.8%
MBD: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI (MS-7B93)

[worn monolith]

compute not much graphics

[woven horizon]

UserBenchmarks: Game 102%, Desk 107%, Work 95%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X - 83%
GPU: MSI GAMING X 2070S - 106%
SSDs: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB - 89% Crucial P1 3D NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB - 236% Sandisk S3 1T02 1TB - 88.4%
RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z Neo RGB DDR4 3333 C16 2x8GB - 103%
MBD: MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI (MS-7C37)

@gentle bay

it looks like your ram isnt using the xmp profile

also is your ram in dual or single channel

[serene current]

Good evening. Not sure if this would be the right channel, but I'm looking to build a decent setup on a fairly small budget ($500 at the moment). Would anyone mind giving me some insight on the following combo?

• AMD Ryzen 7 2700
• MSI Performance Gaming X470 Gaming Plus mobo
• G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB

Will be reusing current case and periphreals for now

[viral ore]

32gb is a ton

16 should be just fine

unless you know that you need it

[cursive wharf]

x470 gaming plus has no real benefits to b450 tomahawk

[viral ore]

also that

[serene current]

I run a couple heavily modded games, and after an hour, I end up with around 95% RAM usage

On 16 gb

[viral ore]

95% of 16?

ahh

[gentle bay]

How do i use the XMP profile? @woven horizon

[viral ore]

so you do need 32

[gentle bay]

And its dual

[viral ore]

would you reuse the 16 you have now?

and just add more

[gentle bay]

Oh i c

[woven horizon]

@gentle bay go into the bios and under xmp profile select profile 2

[viral ore]

depends on the ram you have now tho

[cursive wharf]

also, is that just a memory leak or you have other programs you can close?

[woven horizon]

i had spotify steam and discord running

[serene current]

I run Steam in offline mode, don't have spotify, and discord stays closed when gaming (use the mobile app)

[viral ore]

what type of ram are you using now? you might be able to still use it

[woven horizon]

sorry i was not reading your post my comment is of no value just ignore it lol

[serene current]

Honestly, don't remember. It's about 5 year old potato. I'd have to search my order history. lol

[woven horizon]

but i will say i have several things running and only use 60% of my ram

[serene current]

Yeah, it's old DDR3

[viral ore]

oh, if its 5 years old, the ram probably isnt DDR4, and probably isnt reusable

yeah

so nvm

would you need a new gpu?

or is your current one fine

[serene current]

GPU seems to be fine. GTX 960. Am planning on upgrading it later on

[viral ore]

yeah, its good enough for now

[woven horizon]

for now but youll notice the gpu is lagging behind for sure

[viral ore]

but, a B450 motherboard, either a 2700x or 3600, depending on if you really need more cores, and 2x16gb ddr4

what kinds of games do you usually play, and what cpu do you have now?

[serene current]

Skyrim, Fallout series, Civ, etc.
It's a AMD FX-4350

[woven horizon]

tomahawk or the steel legend are a good choice

[viral ore]

oof

i think the 3600 would be a better choice than the 2700

[woven horizon]

unless you are getting the x some games perform better because of the cores and not the core frequency

[viral ore]

i dont think those games are gonna use 16 threads tho

well, idk about civ

[woven horizon]

civ will

[viral ore]

games like that usually can go ham with threads

[serene current]

Ok, so the Ryzen 7 2700X, MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX a better comboination?

[woven horizon]

you dont need the max unless you want to guarantee ryzen 3rd gen support out of the box you can always update the bios before upgrading to 3rd gen

[serene current]

But, if I go with the Ryzen 5 3600 over the 7 2700/2700X

[woven horizon]

Then yes get the max

its kind of ugly of them to charge a little more for a bios update tbf

[serene current]

They gotta pay the people to do the update somehow...lol

[woven horizon]

I'm assuming those boards are new stock and they would have the bios installed during the manufacturing process and not recalled stock that's been updated.

[serene current]

True, true

Ok. I think I know the direction I will be going once I decide to pull the trigger. I really do appreciate the help and insight yall have given!

[magic harness]

hello i need help i just bought a new 3900x to replace my 2700x my mother board is a asrock x570 phantom gaming x ram is G.SKILL Flare X Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) ssd XPG SX8100 1TB PCIe NVMe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 when i try to install it goes to bios and no further the board pics up the cpu but it wont boot to windows just keep acting like its loading windows i gave up swaped back to my 2700x cpu what am i missing

[sacred obsidian]

well one, when switching cpus you gotta give it a bit

and 2, did you try to reinstall windows

i mean its more likely you gotta just wait a bit if all you did is update cpu

another thing you can do is while using the 2700x, update your bios, then reinstall 3900x

but i doubt thats the issue as it should support 3000 series out of the box i believe

[proud helm]

yes it should

he should prob reinstall.windows like u said

pc newbies be like

but hey thats what this discord is for

what the dumbest question youve ever seen in this discord ping me

[sacred obsidian]

i mean you shouldnt really need to redo windows when going from a ryzen to a ryzen

but it does help

[sullen spoke]

You can try but windows shouldn’t be the problem, but windows sux so idk

[proud helm]

yea

[sacred obsidian]

windows is bae you shush

[proud helm]

lol

too much gui tbh

windows 7 is besy ever to exist

best*

[sullen spoke]

Well it’s gone now

[proud helm]

yea rip

[sacred obsidian]

nope windows 10 is better fite me

[proud helm]

guYz i nEedz hElP mY pEnTiuM nO fiT iN mY x570 Max PRO GaMiNg MobO iM sO mAD soMeOme fIx PleAsE

[edgy zephyr]

What windows Longhorn was fun

[sacred obsidian]

theres no bad questions mrsupr3me everyoen gotta learn somehow

[sullen spoke]

Just shove it in @proud helm

[cursive wharf]

Supr3me, put thermal paste on the socket and the put the CPU in, maybe it'l help connecting the pins of the CPU onto the mobo

[sacred obsidian]

oh god i thought you were giving serious advice for a min and just wording it wrong and i nearly had a heart attack

[cursive wharf]

sometimes I wonder if adding /s is a good or bad idea. Giving bad good advice and seeing people have heart attacks be happy is really fun

[sacred obsidian]

i mean even if you do that a lot of people dont know what /s means lol

and a lot of people are learning to build pcs for the first time and might take that super serious

[cursive wharf]

Well, I did single someone out who we knew was already joking and say that. So I'd hopefully assume that people wouldnt take that as best practice themselves

Kinda like how if you know how someone lives there life, give advice to them on what they should fix and how, then a bunch of people that overhear I feel like wouldnt be "oh, I should do that as well"

[sacred obsidian]

i know but its possible for someone to come by and go "oh what if that fixes my issues" lol

i only worry cause ive seen a couple people irl actually do that ;-;

[cursive wharf]

oof, tis is unforunate

makes agreement that for people to join they must not hold me accountable for damages that my jokes may have done

[sacred obsidian]

lmao

[prisma kernel]

Does anyone have any experience with the DIYPC Skyline 6? I'm having some issues with the LEDs.

[dry tinsel]

no idea, the CPU should work fine

aah scroll down Anni scroll down

i'm too tired for this 💩

gotta wake up and have coffee

[subtle halo]

xD

[proud helm]

the verge pc build guide is the best build guide to exist

[dry tinsel]

a special place in hell for you if you recommend that to people seriously, there are some people who would believe it and build their PC that way

[lyric thistle]

step one, put the thermal paste in the cpu socket. this helps keep the cpu nice and cool during those intensive processing hours. then put the cpu in the socket. you'll need to make sure the corner arrows do not line up. the arrow indicates direction of current flowing out of the part, so they should ideally be in opposite corners. now you will need to put the fan on the cpu to get the cooling directly to the processor. this is the optimal cooling setup, without a heat sink, because those things are hot and just heat up the cpu. you should be good to go from here.

[toxic ledge]

in need of help upgrading my gfx card, if anyone can help. i currently have the Radeon RX 560

[dry tinsel]

was a great GPU in the day

i played through mass effect: andromeda of all things on it, it was a beast

[toxic ledge]

doesn't do it for me currently, with streaming and playing tarkov. even last night streaming darksiders genesis the stream was super choppy

[dry tinsel]

yeah, of course

now it's not enough unless you tune your settings quite a bit

would you like your GPU to assist you in rendering the video stream?

if you're serious about streaming, any nvidia 20xx card will stream well

[toxic ledge]

right right, i have tarkov set to pretty much the lowest of the low. i would like to do that and run games without a problem, but budget lol

[dry tinsel]

your budget is?

[toxic ledge]

right around $200 atm, when taxes come back i can possibly go higher

[dry tinsel]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-Radeon-RX-Vega-56-DirectX-12-8G-8GB-Graphics-Card-Used/223857624437

this is a strong GPU

but you'll need a strong CPU still to encode your stream

[toxic ledge]

i'm on DDR3 atm as well

[dry tinsel]

what's your CPU

[toxic ledge]

sec

should've started by saying i'm brand new to the upgrade scene. most iv'e done is put ram in lol. AMD 6300 six core

[latent bronze]

eh FX 6300

[toxic ledge]

it's a prebuilt rig that i got to try PC gaming/streaming. couple of people i play with regularly say it's a decent tower to upgrade

[latent bronze]

You're going to look into building a new system within a years time

[toxic ledge]

that's what the guys said too

should i just look for a whole new setup for the tower in general then? like a massive upgrade to DDR5 or whatever is most current?

[dry tinsel]

and a new CPU, new motherboard

and still of course a new GPU

[latent bronze]

Lay down your budget and games you play and/or plan on playing

[cursive wharf]

@timber vessel PSU is meh, bad for price, GPU overpriced, so it RAM

[dry tinsel]

wouldn't an RM650 be the same price?

[toxic ledge]

budget atm is $200 may go up when taxes come back, currently playing tarkov, rocket league, darksiders genesis, csgo

[tranquil dust]

@timber vessel your address is shown on the top

[cursive wharf]

@dry tinsel V56 without BIOS flash is like 1070 perf right? So 1660S is not far behind for only $20 cheaper and loses NVENC

[latent bronze]

@toxic ledge are you playing and plan on keep playing those games at 1080p?

[toxic ledge]

yep

[timber vessel]

@tranquil dust meh just my work zip code...

[tranquil dust]

Still

I’d crop it

[cursive wharf]

Also yee rm550 is about same price. 650 is on average 110

[latent bronze]

When you get your tax return you can go for a Ryzen 5 system with a GTX 1660 Super if you still plan on streaming as well

[dry tinsel]

1660 Super has NVENC?

[toxic ledge]

what is the Ryzen? cpu? i'm new to the upgrade scene

[latent bronze]

yes

[cursive wharf]

Yee, new on as well

[dry tinsel]

i thought it was only RTX series now

huh

[cursive wharf]

Only bad NVENC is on 1650 non super, all others have new NVENC

[latent bronze]

@toxic ledge Ryzen is the newer AMD CPU's

[hollow grove]

I have an amd rx 580 and have nvenc

With my gtx 1050 ecks dee

[latent bronze]

Could of just went with back then a 1060 instead of doing it that way

or even a 1070

[hollow grove]

Wat

[toxic ledge]

@latent bronze can you link the part you're talking about please? i'd like to take a look at it

[latent bronze]

Ryzen 5's https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007671 601350545 601350548 601350551
1660 Super's https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709 601346498

[toxic ledge]

thanks man

what cpu would be the in between for me?

not the absolute best but would last a while?

[hollow grove]

Ryzen 5 2600

[toxic ledge]

thanks man

[hollow grove]

OR

2700x if it’s still on sale

[latent bronze]

What games do you plan on playing in the future

[cursive wharf]

2600? Why not 1600 AF

[hollow grove]

[cursive wharf]

it's literally a 2600 but okay

[hollow grove]

Ok than 2700

[cursive wharf]

There, that is a not bad deal

[toxic ledge]

tarkov, rocket league, maybe WoW. but i'm on DDR3 currently, will that 2600 work?

or will i need a new mobo as well?

[hollow grove]

You might

You will

[toxic ledge]

alright guys

it's like this

[cursive wharf]

Again, 1600 AF and not 2600

[hollow grove]

Or just get a 3950x

[toxic ledge]

if i need a whole new setup, can you kind folks link all the stuff for it? i'm a noob to this

lol

[hollow grove]

If you need to save dat dough

I’d go a320m lol

[toxic ledge]

i mean i do/don't with taxes coming hopefully soon. but if a massive overhaul is needed to stay current, then i'll do my best to stay current

[hollow grove]

Ok than go x570 and get a 3900x

Boom

[toxic ledge]

can you link please? i'm a pleb

[latent bronze]

B350/B450 is what you would go for

A320 is nasty

[hollow grove]

But it saves dat cash money

[latent bronze]

You only go A320 if you don't overclock at all

[hollow grove]

[toxic ledge]

don't even know what that means lol

[hollow grove]

How much do you think you’ll be able to spend on a pooter?

[toxic ledge]

i don't need a top of the line build guys lol

[latent bronze]

Overclocking a CPU would boost the performance of it

[toxic ledge]

couple hundred for sure

[hollow grove]

Ok than a320m and a 1200

[latent bronze]

having a board that doesn't allow it will make it crap

[cursive wharf]

No, used optiplex

For like $300? When getting a used GPU

[toxic ledge]

would you guys rather i post what i have currently and go from that?

[hollow grove]

That’s stinky @cursive wharf

[latent bronze]

Well i know you're using a FX 6300

[toxic ledge]

right

[cursive wharf]

Too bad. Getting get much more when you have "couple hundred" is something I'd like to see you do

[latent bronze]

3rd gen i7 is still a lot better than the FX 6300

[toxic ledge]

i guess the real question is do i NEED to overhaul

[latent bronze]

Well for the Optiplex

[hollow grove]

Yes

[latent bronze]

@toxic ledge if you plan on playing anything newer you would need to do a new build

[hollow grove]

You could get a new pc for like 600$ that’s pretty cash money

But idk if that’s too much for u

[cursive wharf]

A new not so bad one is $500

[toxic ledge]

i got this one for like $550 i think, but i think it's 2 years old now

[cursive wharf]

Can maybe tighten it down to $450

[hollow grove]

I got a 2600 and a rx 580 plus x570 for 500

[toxic ledge]

memory is scuffed

[lyric thistle]

Costco sells an i5-9400 computer for 500

[cursive wharf]

With probably no dGPU

[lyric thistle]

yeah

ofc not

[latent bronze]

cheapest and also only an open box https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-rogue-se-ali328/p/N82E16883102793R

[hollow grove]

@toxic ledge

Are you gonna buy a prebuilt or build it

I don’t know if you said that

[toxic ledge]

either or man, i wouldn't mind trying to build, but it really doesn't matter to me. @latent bronze can i get glass for that one? like to see the inner works

[hollow grove]

I’d build it

It’s not hard lol

I’m 15 and dumb and I built mine.

[toxic ledge]

link me all the parts lmao. i'm not kidding, i'm a pleb with this stuff

i'm older and can barely find the stuff you guys are asking about lmao

[latent bronze]

For prebuilt this would be the best bang for the buck https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-mage-e-ala115/p/N82E16883102726

which is also using a B450 board

nvm it says A320

[hollow grove]

So first ig would be a 1600 af, than some b450 board I’ll get the links rq

[latent bronze]

Ok this one is using a B450 and a Ryzen 5 3600 as well https://www.newegg.com/ibuypower-slate-106av2/p/N82E16883227920

[hollow grove]

Or you could get that

[latent bronze]

It does come with a keyboard and mouse and also for your old system you could sell it for a couple hundred

[lyric thistle]

you could add an old hard drive, or buy a new one and put it in there as well

[hollow grove]

So he’s not gonna build it?

[latent bronze]

Building it to get similar specs would cost him almost the same thing

and besides that it would be plug and play for him

[hollow grove]

I mean it is more fun lol

[lyric thistle]

I'd put a new hard drive in the old computer and use your current one though

[latent bronze]

@toxic ledge the ibuypower system all the games you mentioned you will also get over 100 frames

[hollow grove]

He said earlier he had a 200$ budget

That’s 800

[latent bronze]

and he is waiting for his tax returns

[hollow grove]

Oh ok

Idk what that is

[latent bronze]

and if he sells his old system for 250$ to 300$ he would be able to afford that without any problems

[toxic ledge]

i have a cyberpowerpc prebuilt right now

a buddy linked me this build:https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Computer-i5-9400F-690-0073w/dp/B082BHK58X/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=

but like i said, i like to see the interior of it

[latent bronze]

i wouldn't go for that since the CPU is a lot weaker then the Ryzen 5 3600

and CS GO is still a more CPU than GPU game

[hollow grove]

The Ryzen 5 3600 isn’t a good deal rn

[toxic ledge]

he said it would be 60fps constantly, he builds pc's in his spare time so i kind of trust what he says, but here i am in the techiest tech forum i can think of lol

[hollow grove]

Unless you need pics 4

Pcie

[latent bronze]

@hollow grove You know that is for X570 boards right not the CPU's

[hollow grove]

I know

But still as I said it isn’t a good value

It’s more than 2x the 1600af

[latent bronze]

and in gaming the 3600 is a lot better than the 1600AF/2600

[hollow grove]

Is is more than 2x better?

[lyric thistle]

lol I love that thinker

[toxic ledge]

i'll just look at prebuilts i guess. would that be the better option? seems like alot of back and forth for parts

[latent bronze]

Lets use this as an example ok since GTA V is more of a CPU game https://i.gyazo.com/cda9c5a3be7dd11b4ea69b5a00a64405.png

[hollow grove]

I mean like I’m just saying if he needs value it’d be good to get a 1600af you could get a motherboard and a cpu for the price of the 3600

[latent bronze]

so 1600AF 85 fps and 3600 104 fps

[hollow grove]

Not even 10% better

I doubt this guy has a higher than 60 FPS monitor

Ok I can’t do math that’s like 20%

[latent bronze]

Overall it is better to future proof a system then using something a couple years old

Remember games like Destiny 2 as an example was released in 2017 and the recommended is a R5 1600

so who knows how long till it gets to the point of the 2600 becoming the recommended

[hollow grove]

The 1600af is a 2600 but slightly not as good, it’ll be good for a fat minute. The like i5 4xxx is still good

[latent bronze]

4th gen i5's are ok but far from being good

for 4th gen would have to be an i7

[lyric thistle]

yey

[hollow grove]

c

[latent bronze]

https://i.gyazo.com/9b3f41e226d7b2fa3e9cf9da29c5d430.png

[hollow grove]

I’ll be honest I don’t feel as if any of this is actually helping @toxic ledge at all

So just get a prebuilt 🙂

[latent bronze]

9th gen i5's in gaming performance is pretty much on par with the 2600/2600X so the 3600 is higher in performance which would be a lot better @toxic ledge

[hollow grove]

Plus you get more threads for extra things like multi tasking and gaming

I think it’s 4 vs 12 threads

[latent bronze]

I am actually going to build my friend his new system cause his i7 970 is starting to show its age

[toxic ledge]

@latent bronze is there a prebuilt that has what you're talking about?

[hollow grove]

Yes there is!

[latent bronze]

@toxic ledge This prebuilt is the one i am talking about https://www.newegg.com/ibuypower-slate-106av2/p/N82E16883227920

@hollow grove 9th gen i5's are 6 core 6 thread

[viral ore]

That's decent for 850

[hollow grove]

Jeez

I didn’t realize how cheap my pc was

[viral ore]

I mean, you could do better building

[cursive wharf]

What is the budget? Still 500?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JMrBTC

[viral ore]

But it do be coming with da epic gamer keyboard and mouse

[latent bronze]

Sassy it does also include a nice cooler for overclocking

[viral ore]

Epic

[latent bronze]

Why a R3 1200

[viral ore]

Heis build is interesting

I mean, new parts for under 500

[hollow grove]

I wouldn’t buy that one it has a 3.5 on Newegg lol

Bad prebuilt

Stinky

[viral ore]

Ppl who give rating like that usually don't know anything

[cursive wharf]

I haven't looked in a bit so idk if prices have changed. Last I heard it was $500 budget

[viral ore]

Just read some of those one star reviews, people are usually just clueless idiots

[hollow grove]

tru

[lyric thistle]

^

[viral ore]

It funny sometimes

[lyric thistle]

it's great

[viral ore]

But it always is good to read, because you can see many reviews making a single claim if there really is an issue

[cursive wharf]

Still, $25 upgrade for a 1600AF, and $20 upgrade for a decent air cooler, totalling $545 for the same as that prebuilt that is over $800

[hollow grove]

Nutrients

[cursive wharf]

Also $25 upgrade for half tb SSD

[hollow grove]

True* WTF why did it make it nutrients?

[viral ore]

SSD mandatory

[hollow grove]

Not true

[sacred obsidian]

ssd isnt mandatory, just super nice lol

[lyric thistle]

so

mandatory?

[cursive wharf]

Win 10 is much nicer for boot times on an HDD

[viral ore]

For win 10? I deem it a necessity

[vivid atlas]

Mandatory for boot at least

[latent bronze]

The prebuilt for over 800 Hei is using a 3600 and a 1660 instead of a 1600 AF and a 1650 Super

[cursive wharf]

1660 is like what, 7 fps better then a 1650S? So not noticable. Missed out on 3600 tho

[hollow grove]

[viral ore]

I don't think so

[cursive wharf]

But, prebuilt has single channel 8gb instead of dual channel 16gb total

[hollow grove]

Ryzen needs dual channel

[toxic ledge]

why is this so hard guys lol, i want to see the internals, i want to run games/stream smoothly, but i can't find an inbetween for me

honestly might just upgrade the internals. iv'e got the space for it.

[cursive wharf]

I mean what was the budget?

[toxic ledge]

it started out as a budget for a new gpu and it was $200, then i considered just upgrading as a whole which got moved to buying prebuilts and i said a couple hundred for that so

[sacred obsidian]

well if your pc is woefully out of date you can upgrade your cpu mobo and ram for about 200

but getting a new gpu at 200 might be a stretch unless you buy new

[cursive wharf]

You'll be buying used unless you have a budget of like 700+ on buying a prebuilt

[sacred obsidian]

also my suggestion would be a total upgrade budget of 400, not 200

[toxic ledge]

the prebuilt i have now was like 5-600 i think, new at best buy. but it's a couple years old now i think. memory is scuffed

total upgrade budget off 400 huh, i'm on DDR3, what can i do with that?

[sacred obsidian]

what are the current specs

everything new uses ddr4

[toxic ledge]

6300fx six core, AMD Radeon RX 560, 32 gb ram

i think

[cursive wharf]

So basically you can keep the storage, case, and PSU

[toxic ledge]

so i need a mobo, gpu, cpu?

[cursive wharf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WX3x27

[sacred obsidian]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mF68jp

oh

waiiiiiiiiiit

why is your ryzen 5 2600 only 85$

[cursive wharf]

1600AF is just a slightly UCed 2600

Literally

So it seems fair to just put it in as $85 tbh

[sacred obsidian]

also ignore the ram in mine its bad lol

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wJXBPn

thats what i would do

[cursive wharf]

Idk why not mine. Cheaper CPU for same perf, better mobo, about the same RAM, and not overpriced GPU

Totaling at the asked budget as well

[toxic ledge]

alright, whos link do i take lol

[sacred obsidian]

well yours is literally the same cpu as mine but not located for sale on amazon or newegg

[cursive wharf]

It is for sale on Amazon

[sacred obsidian]

they both say ryzen 5 2600 but that cpu is 120

[cursive wharf]

Search "1600 AF"

Then look at part numbers

[sacred obsidian]

oh it shows up as 2600 lol

[cursive wharf]

No, there is a 1600

2600 stock part number is AF

[toxic ledge]

@cursive wharf for that SSD, i have a Samsung T5, that would still be good right?

i don't have much on it atm besides tarkov and rocket league

[cursive wharf]

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-YD1600BBAFBOX/dp/B07XTQZJ28/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?keywords=1600+af&qid=1579710115&sr=8-7

[toxic ledge]

so i could scrap that?

[cursive wharf]

Can scrap the SSD then as you already have one

[toxic ledge]

sweet

[sacred obsidian]

fair enough hei but iunno it doesnt show that on my end

wait isnt the t5 a portable ssd?

[toxic ledge]

i'll keep this in mind @cursive wharf

not sure @sacred obsidian i originally bought it for my xbox one before i got back into pc gaming

it's a 500gb i think

does the SSD being portable make it a bad choice as far as SSD?

[cursive wharf]

I mean there aren't many upgrades that would work well with just $30. So an internal SSD would help for being a boot ssd

[sacred obsidian]

if it works tho then scrap the ssd bump that 1650s to a 1660 or 1660s

[toxic ledge]

oh the one you posted @cursive wharf is internal?

[cursive wharf]

Yes

[toxic ledge]

can you not run 2 SSDs?

[sacred obsidian]

yeah you want it to be internal

[toxic ledge]

ahhhhh, i see

[sacred obsidian]

you can

[toxic ledge]

then i'm lost again lmao

[sacred obsidian]

but if you want your pc to be fast, you want windows loaded on an internal ssd

[toxic ledge]

oh ok ok ok, so for $400, @cursive wharf-s cart is good?

[sacred obsidian]

yes

and far more upgradeable

[toxic ledge]

nice, you guys are a f-ton of help, really appreciate it

[sacred obsidian]

even if it moves out of am4, you could still get a r9 down the road for a good power boost

[cursive wharf]

No problemo

[lyric thistle]

internal SSDs can be put into an external enclosure that uses USB, but you can't take an external drive out of its case and mount it inside a computer

[toxic ledge]

maybe i can get the wife to order some parts for my birthday this weekend lol

[cursive wharf]

@sacred obsidian no no. No r9

[sacred obsidian]

why not r9 lol

im talking in the future when you can find em cheap on ebay

[cursive wharf]

Mobo is a bit better, but not really too r9 ready

[sacred obsidian]

oh

r7 then?

[cursive wharf]

You can do it, but VRMs would get uncomfortably hot

But r7 should be a bit more acceptable

[sacred obsidian]

trying to pull up specs and the browser doesnt wanna work with me lol

[proud helm]

replace 2600 with 1600af same peformance

[toxic ledge]

oh wait, that 6 core doesn't have a buy option on the cart, will i have to find it somewhere else then?

[proud helm]

85 on amazon

[sacred obsidian]

thats what hei did

we went over this

read

[proud helm]

oh sorry

[toxic ledge]

lolol

[sacred obsidian]

lol

its cool

so wait @cursive wharf would the 1600 do vr fine as well? cause minimum spec is 2600

[cursive wharf]

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-YD1600BBAFBOX/dp/B07XTQZJ28/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?keywords=1600+af&qid=1579710115&sr=8-7
That's the CPU

[proud helm]

yes it should be fine

[toxic ledge]

oh sweet @cursive wharf thanks

[cursive wharf]

Yeah, may need a slight OC tho

[toxic ledge]

a what

[proud helm]

overclock

[sacred obsidian]

for VR

[cursive wharf]

Nothing you really need to worry about for your needs

[toxic ledge]

Pepehands i'm lost

[proud helm]

but wouldnt that cooler not be enough

he would need a noctua third party cooler or a wayer cooler

[sacred obsidian]

i was asking if you can play VR games with the cpu you would be getting lol

[proud helm]

im a little hesitant with oc but idrk

[cursive wharf]

Slight OC on the 1600AF to put it back to 2600

[proud helm]

oh ok

[toxic ledge]

oh that would be badass man, i'd like to play beat saber lol

[sacred obsidian]

i want to oc my 2600 but idk if i should

oh wait

i have an idea

[toxic ledge]

ye

i'm all ears lol

[sacred obsidian]

lord kraken, do you have a micro center near you

[toxic ledge]

A WHAT

[proud helm]

if you dont need to oc theres no reason to thats my logic

[sacred obsidian]

its a store called micro center

[wind leaf]

yeah

[proud helm]

if you do heavy video editing then sure

[wind leaf]

it’s a huge cube shaped building

[toxic ledge]

i'm in ohio/wv, right on the river

i don't think so man

[proud helm]

but if u game and regular desktop usage no reasom to oc

[toxic ledge]

never heard of one of those stores

[sacred obsidian]

if you buy from micro center, they price match, and if you go buy the motherboard you get 30$ off cpu, so i got my 2600 for 90 bucks

google microcenter near me

[wind leaf]

i live in houston. i’ve seen micro center before

[sacred obsidian]

eyyyyy houston bros

[wind leaf]

you’re from houston lol?

[toxic ledge]

discord, bringing people together lol

[proud helm]

i live in alabama so closest micro center is in atlanta

[wind leaf]

maybe it’s just in big cities

[sacred obsidian]

tiem to go to atlanta mrsubr3me

[proud helm]

i dont understand how does micro center make any money eith that many expensive parts

with*

[wind leaf]

the micro center by me is huge

[sacred obsidian]

actually they usually beat amazon prices

[cursive wharf]

I once found someone in my city on the LTT server, semi smallish city

[sacred obsidian]

like theyre priced really well

[toxic ledge]

closest micro to me is in columbus, 2 hour drive lol

[sacred obsidian]

nike is the second person ive met who resides in houston lol

[proud helm]

sweet home alabama

[toxic ledge]

can you order online from them?

is that the better bet for me?

[sacred obsidian]

oof. if you wanna make that drive, you could get the 2600 for 90 if you also buy the board there. roughly same price, no oc needed.

[wind leaf]

i’m debating on building or buying a prebuilt gaming pc. just wanna run some games at 144 fps and maybe stream like fortnite or something. People say building it is much cheaper and more fun but idk.

[sacred obsidian]

i dont think they do online retail

build

[proud helm]

yes buils it

build

[wind leaf]

can i hear your reasons

[sacred obsidian]

if you wanna hit 144 fps you're going to over pay for prebuilt

[wind leaf]

why should i build it

[toxic ledge]

well poo, i don't really go up that way often. guess i'll just get it from hei's link

[sacred obsidian]

plus by knowing how your pc works, when something goes wrong you can fix it yourself

[wind leaf]

ok

ideas

[sacred obsidian]

depends on budget

[wind leaf]

i’m completely new to pc building

[sacred obsidian]

whats your budget

[wind leaf]

I added you so i can ask you more questions in dm or whatever

ok my budget is around like $700-$800

right now i have $600 saves

saved

[sacred obsidian]

okay is that with monitor and peripherals or just the pc?

[proud helm]

oh pfff for 800?? way over 200fps.on 1080p

ryzen 5 3600
5700xt
16gb 3200mhz

boom

[wind leaf]

i don’t have a monitor or peripherals

[proud helm]

oh then shoot

monitor will take ip 200$ of your budgrt

for a 144hz

[sacred obsidian]

yeah lol

[proud helm]

so 600$ bruh

[sacred obsidian]

peripherals are another 100

so about 500ish

[proud helm]

not really

[sacred obsidian]

i mean

if we round up

[proud helm]

maybe 50 so 550

lol

yea plus tax

[sacred obsidian]

which is why i round up

[proud helm]

then i say r5 1600
rx 570
8gb 3000mhz

boom

[sacred obsidian]

we could build a pc on 500 but

it may not hit those fps you want

[proud helm]

yea

[sacred obsidian]

actually hol up

[proud helm]

maybe

well

he could get a 75hz which is 100$

[wind leaf]

ok let’s exclude the monitor and peripherals for now

[proud helm]

bruh bruh

ok

then like i said
r5 3600
5700
16gb 3200mhz
x570 mobo

[wind leaf]

i was thinking this

[sacred obsidian]

@cursive wharf was the corsair cxm bad?

[vivid atlas]

Think it has more coil whine than normal CX.

Coil whine "issues"

[upper condor]

On the topic of monitors theres an AOC 144hz on sale for 145

[sacred obsidian]

nike are you fine with playing fortnite on low

[upper condor]

Of from 190

[sacred obsidian]

this is me trying to get you in pretty decent specs but pc and monitor is 800

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TQNMwh

you still need keyboard and mouse at least

[dry tinsel]

that SSD is very small, barely enough for windows and some useful programs

[sacred obsidian]

thats the point tho. budget build lol and store everything on hdd

it was originally my bare minimum vr build

[jolly scaffold]

How does this look I wanna fix up my old pc to run things like rust csgo and gta
I’ll be getting a 2070 super

[limpid merlin]

RAM, CPU, MOBO, and the AIO are all overpriced @jolly scaffold

[jolly scaffold]

I thought they were low
Do you have anything to recommend

My budget is 1500$

[stoic island]

Holy crap

Just go AMD :p

[jolly scaffold]

Is it cheaper

I want to go and but I wasn’t sure

Amd*

[stoic island]

Amd r5 3600 is 200$, b450 board is ~100

So similar but slightly cheaper

[jolly scaffold]

Alrighty

[stoic island]

Find a MSI b450 max board

[jolly scaffold]

Okay

[wind leaf]

what about r5 3600
1660ti
b450 tomahawk
16 gb RAM

[hollow grove]

Bro @jolly scaffold that’s literally a 6600k

My head hurts now

[little osprey]

lmao

[latent bronze]

Some people still prefer Intel over AMD

[sacred obsidian]

Wait intel has a 6600k too?

[latent bronze]

10th gen comes out i am going to that

[sacred obsidian]

Some are wrong ecks

[latent bronze]

@sacred obsidian Intel had a 6600K for a long time now

[sacred obsidian]

I probably should’ve been more clear when I said I had a 6600k then cause I had the old amd one xD

[latent bronze]

Ya a A6

[sacred obsidian]

A8

[latent bronze]

AMD should of kept using APU's with the dual gpu style

[wind leaf]

ok but is this good?

what about r5 3600
1660ti
b450 tomahawk
16 gb RAM

[latent bronze]

It's ok depending on what you do

[wind leaf]

ok for example, playing fortnite at 144 fps

[latent bronze]

You'd have no problem

[wind leaf]

what about while recording or streaming

[proud helm]

yes its a 6 core cpu

[latent bronze]

But fortnite going over 60 is pretty pointless since there would be console gamers that could be doing as good or better

[hollow grove]

@wind leaf I have an rx 580 and on save the world at epic settings I cap at 70 so idk if you’ll get 144

[wind leaf]

an rx 580 is better than a 1660ti?? i’m new to this btw

[latent bronze]

1660 ti is a lot better than a 580

[wind leaf]

oh ok

[hollow grove]

It isn’t 50% better

[latent bronze]

More like 60%

[little osprey]

isn't 1660ti kinda pointless now with 5600xt destroying it>

[proud helm]

wym i have an rx 580 i play on epic view and medium everything else and i get over 150

[hollow grove]

It ain’t 60% better 😂😂😂

I play all epic and I get

Wait actually I might have vsync on

I’ll check later

[tranquil dust]

lol

[proud helm]

thats why

[wind leaf]

v sync drastically changes fps

[proud helm]

i play on all epic...

u*

[wind leaf]

turn off v sync

[latent bronze]

If you have vsync on and it is a 60hz monitor you would be at 60 fps then

[proud helm]

you play on all epic*

yea

vsync does nothing

[hollow grove]

I know

[daring hare]

I'm just internally screaming since I got a 1660ti before the 5600xt was announced but I still needed to make a proper build so RIP

[proud helm]

but freesync and gsync does somethinf

[hollow grove]

I’m not a poopy brain

Actually yeah I am.

[proud helm]

lol

[wind leaf]

so i should get a 5600xt

[proud helm]

yes

[hollow grove]

yes

[proud helm]

jinx

[latent bronze]

If streaming no

[hollow grove]

Actually get a 5700xt

[proud helm]

if streaminf get the titan rtz

[wind leaf]

why not for streams?

[proud helm]

rtx

[hollow grove]

Nvenc

[daring hare]

If your plan was to get a 1660ti for gaming then yes, however if you are going to be streaming it may still be worth it for the 1660ti

[proud helm]

jk

[little osprey]

nvnenc is better for streaming but navi is better for recording

[hollow grove]

I mean technically if you have an old GPU somewhere you can plug it in and use it to encode

[little osprey]

since HEVC

[daring hare]

^^

[proud helm]

go for the 2080ti

i got mine for 100$ on aliexpress

[hollow grove]

Gtx titan

Not scam it’s 1$

😳

[proud helm]

im jp guys calm down

[tranquil dust]

😳

[proud helm]

jeez guys r/whoooosh

jeez

omg

[daring hare]

And also just depends on what you are going to be playing since the 1660ti is good for pretty much most games except for some of the more intensive modern games @wind leaf

[proud helm]

guys

[hollow grove]

Quadro 80000 no skam

😳

[tranquil dust]

no skam😳

[hollow grove]

😏

[little osprey]

wtf

you guys hella trolling right now

[wind leaf]

facts i’m actually confused rn

[proud helm]

nike just do it

Just do it

[wind leaf]

nice one

[proud helm]

hhahahha lmaoaooaoaooao

[little osprey]

@wind leaf do you plan on streaming or just gaming with recording on side?

[proud helm]

alright im done

yall go into a dm or sum

[latent bronze]

@wind leaf just go with the build you originally wanted

[hollow grove]

Didn’t he want a 6600k

[wind leaf]

no

what about r5 3600
1660ti
b450 tomahawk
16 gb RAM

this is what i wanted

[hollow grove]

[proud helm]

yes

do that

good

[little osprey]

i would just go with ryzen 5 3600 and and b450 tomahawk max and like 16gb ddr4 3600 cl16

[wind leaf]

good for streaming too?

[proud helm]

yes

use obs studio

[hollow grove]

The 1660ti is stinky

[proud helm]

1660 super?

[tranquil dust]

or streamlabs

[hollow grove]

Rtx 2060s

[proud helm]

1660 extreme?

1660 super pro max?

[little osprey]

if plan on streaming buy rtx 2060 for 300$ its better buy than 1660ti

[tranquil dust]

😳

[hollow grove]

1660 ultimate

[wind leaf]

i’m on a budget so i cannot do that @little osprey

[proud helm]

1660 thanos edition

[little osprey]

@wind leaf whats your budget?

[tranquil dust]

isnt ur budget like 1500 or was that someone else

[proud helm]

bugdget lol

[wind leaf]

$700-800

[tranquil dust]

ah

[little osprey]

ahh i make pcpartpicker list

[proud helm]

go with the 9900k and gt 1030

[hollow grove]

Yes

[proud helm]

with am4 mobo and 12gb ram

[little osprey]

you have all monitor and keyboard and mouse yes? @wind leaf

[hollow grove]

Get a 10980xe

[wind leaf]

yeah all of that is handled just the pc

[little osprey]

ok

[latent bronze]

@proud helm ok that is enough trolling you are going to confuse him more with that

[foggy hazel]

it is so very easy to see from the activity here who doesnt ever need help. @proud helm @hollow grove

[little osprey]

@wind leaf you US base right?

[wind leaf]

yes

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey thank you for helping @wind leaf

[wind leaf]

yes thank you

[latent bronze]

@wind leaf to be honest the list you had was perfectly fine

[wind leaf]

really?

i wanted extra opinions

and plus idk how much power supply and sd and all that stuff

[latent bronze]

Right now i stream at 1080p with a 1660 non ti and i have no issues with my games while streaming and my cpu is a ryzen 5 2600

[hollow grove]

600w for future

[little osprey]

i think on orignal build it was 6600k

thats why i was building new one for him since that cpu is so outdated

[little osprey]

o different build my b

[latent bronze]

This was the guy with the 6600k build

[hollow grove]

[latent bronze]

Nike build was always with the 3600

Which it good for future proofing

[hollow grove]

The i5 9400f delivers more frames

Higher frequency

[foggy hazel]

@hollow grove please go back and read some reviews. Then you can chime in when you have knowledge that is useful

[latent bronze]

Also from what i remember fortnite plays better with nvidia over amd

I remember seeing a video of the 1650 super doing about 30 more fps over the 8gb 5500 xt on fortnite

Which the game Nike mentioned earlier that he would be playing is fortnite

[little osprey]

yeah your original build would be perfect @wind leaf

[hollow grove]

The 5600xt is 17% faster than the 1660ti but no nvenc

It’s almost 300$ for a 1660ti why not just get a 2060

[little osprey]

he dose not the have budget for it and alot retailer have yet to drop their pricing to nvidia new pricing

[cursive wharf]

2060 KO is $300, what is 5600XT price?

[upper condor]

280 i think

But better

[wind leaf]

i just did pc part picker and my build exceeded 800

$800

so i have to reconsider

[little osprey]

Ko is also sold out last time i checked

[upper condor]

Wait for 5600XT

It'll be out soon and destroys the 166ti

1660ti

[little osprey]

he plans on streaming nvenc is better than amd on board encoder

[upper condor]

Oh yeah

Definently

[little osprey]

he could stream on 3600 proby no problem but idk if plans on doing that

[upper condor]

Up to him

[hollow grove]

If you need to save money downgrade the CPI

Cpu

[little osprey]

or he could just save up some more get both

[upper condor]

True

[jolly scaffold]

Ryzen 7 2700x
1660 super
B450 tomahawk
Corsair 650 watt
Barracuda 2tb
Trident 16 gb ram
How’s this changed from original to AMD

[little osprey]

you have 1,500$ for budget right?

@jolly scaffold

[hollow grove]

Rtx 2070s instead of 1660? Idk how much the 2070 is

1500$ is a lot

[jolly scaffold]

Yeah

[upper condor]

You could get a lot more

[little osprey]

ok i buld pcpartpicker list for you

[upper condor]

Unless you need peripherals

[little osprey]

you have monitor and and keyboard and mouse right?

[hollow grove]

The cpu is good tbh

Maybe like a 3700?

[foggy hazel]

the most glaring thing that is missing is a ssd

[upper condor]

I heard the 2700 bottlenecks rtx card

[jolly scaffold]

Yeah I have a pc rn and good monitor just need to be updated

[upper condor]

Cards