#building-and-recc-chat

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vestal cove
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Everything look good?

muted patio
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You going to stream Evil?

tranquil dust
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Yea

vestal cove
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I am but not that much

muted patio
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K, looks good to me

vestal cove
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Maybe like 3 times a week

muted patio
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OH yeah, def good build then

upper condor
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I dont know if you need an AIO

muted patio
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It'll do ya well

tranquil dust
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That’s almost the same pc part list that I’m getting for my friend

vestal cove
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Yah I just want the aio cuz it looks so freaking good

latent bronze
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One thing i would tend to suggest when going with Nvidia is going with EVGA

muted patio
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AIO's are subjective. I don't quibble about that unless it ruins the budget

upper condor
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Dang I love the newegg discord

vestal cove
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^

tranquil dust
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Everyone’s so rich

upper condor
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Eh

latent bronze
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im broke so

muted patio
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Yeah Evil, if you can get an EVGA card to it

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Ecks is right

upper condor
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I got like 625 dollars from christmas money

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Spending 1400 myself

tranquil dust
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I got like $300 from Xmas moneys

vestal cove
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Someone told me that the EVGA card was a blower card

muted patio
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HAHAHA

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no

vestal cove
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Wasn’t quite sure what that meant

tranquil dust
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Nope

latent bronze
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One thing why EVGA is they focus more on cooling than looks

muted patio
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Sorry, just found that funny

tranquil dust
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^

upper condor
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Evil I've read some reviews on the compute

muted patio
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EVGA doesn't make blower cards

upper condor
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Heard its bad

tranquil dust
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It’s not

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I have one it’s completely silent

upper condor
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Someone said they crash a lot

vestal cove
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Wait it wasn’t EVGA it was Nvidia

muted patio
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Yes

latent bronze
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EVGA did in the past make a blower card but cause it had a lot of issues they stayed away from making those types again

muted patio
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Founders editions are blowers on some

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not anymore though

tranquil dust
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No they don’t I’ve never had a graphics card that crashed

muted patio
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it's actually AMD that makes blower cards

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currently

tranquil dust
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Yee

upper condor
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Yeah

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The 5700 XT had horrible temps apparently

muted patio
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Ye

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and some aftermarkets were terrible like MSI before they revised the cooler

upper condor
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Yeah

muted patio
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Powercolor or Sapphire are good 5700 brands

latent bronze
vestal cove
latent bronze
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So beautiful lol

upper condor
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Asus has pretty solid cards but too expensive

vestal cove
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Is that good now

upper condor
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@latent bronze I'm getting that one

muted patio
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Wow, that's not bad for $1200

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$1300

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This is my AMD $1300 build

upper condor
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You could shave off a good amount without that aio

muted patio
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RAM is overkill though

latent bronze
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it is different lol

vestal cove
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Yah ram is way too much

muted patio
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Actually, I need to change that build

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That's an old one for a specific purpose

tranquil dust
latent bronze
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Look at the second to last image from what i linked lol

upper condor
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@vestal cove if you want a cool looking cooler for cheap I know a few

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That work really well

latent bronze
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Also no idea what is LSU

upper condor
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University I think

latent bronze
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i pay attention to the boring sports lol

vestal cove
muted patio
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There we go

vestal cove
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How’s that

muted patio
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Good

latent bronze
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Before i change out my memory and motherboard i am going to see how well Intel will do with 10th gen

vestal cove
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Ima wait for intel 10th gen Before I buy i5 9600k

latent bronze
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@vestal cove why don't you go for a 9700K

upper condor
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Evil spend 20 bucks more and get the EVGA 2060 super

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Theres a promo on newegg

muted patio
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Oh snap, missed that. Yeah

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Def go Super instead of regular

latent bronze
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Also @vestal cove 2060 is 6gb and 2060 Super is 8gb

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If someone really wanted a 6gb card i would have them downgrade to a 1660 Ti instead lol

upper condor
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True

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@vestal cove you could save 60 to 120 if you get one if these coolers

foggy hazel
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re: GPU blower cards: they have their place. It does however take some investment to make a decent cooler for it. Unless you want to go the delta fan route

upper condor
muted patio
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I wouldn't recommend either of those unless specific conditions called for it

upper condor
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They look cool

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Pretty loud

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I know there better

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For less but

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Rgb

muted patio
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Get a better air cooler and put your own RGB fans on it

upper condor
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True

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That's kinda too much work for me th9

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You know, millennials

muted patio
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Fans just clip on and off

vestal cove
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What’s the difference between a semi modular and a full modular

foggy hazel
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holy, i had successfully supressed that existed, thank you @upper condor

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that is my nightmare for the day secured

upper condor
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@foggy hazel what?

vestal cove
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And like 80+ gold and 80+ bronze

upper condor
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Evil modular means all the cables are disconnected I think

muted patio
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Semi modular typically has the 24 pin hard wired

upper condor
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And the 80+ is how efficiently runs

muted patio
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where full modular lets you connect everything

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individually

vestal cove
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So full modular is better?

muted patio
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not really

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You NEED the 24 pin lol

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so it's gonna be there regardless

foggy hazel
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@upper condor not personally a fan of the g100 is all :)

vestal cove
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So I should get a semi modular

upper condor
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OoF sorry

muted patio
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Semi modular is fine

foggy hazel
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nothing to be sorry about :)

upper condor
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Evil get what you want

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Semi modular is easier

muted patio
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Only plus to full modular is the ability to do custom colored cables if that's your thing

vestal cove
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The semi modular is cheaper

muted patio
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Ya

upper condor
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Thet always are

vestal cove
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The only difference is that it’s 80+ bronze and semi modular

muted patio
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bronze is power efficiency

upper condor
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Hmm

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I'd get 80+ gold it's like 20 bucks more but a lot quieter

latent bronze
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Full modular is if you want a cleaner look from my opinion

upper condor
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True

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And if you use CableMod you get fancy colors

vestal cove
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I’ll just go with the full modular

latent bronze
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But with more modern cases having that shroud i don't think i would go full modular

muted patio
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EWxactly

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If the PSU is hidden it's a moot point unless you want Cable Mod custom cables or something

upper condor
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I mean they look cool

vestal cove
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I’m not getting custom cables

latent bronze
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Well you have cable extensions as well now

upper condor
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Is there a good website for selling old GPUs when I upgrade?

muted patio
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Offerup or Ebay or Facebook Marketplace

latent bronze
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id go with facebook

muted patio
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Craigslist is just no these days

upper condor
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Yeah problem is

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I live in uk

muted patio
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Ah

upper condor
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I'm american tho

vestal cove
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What psu do you guys think I should get then

latent bronze
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Don't you have a site thing called like mint or something like that

muted patio
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The one you had in your build originally was fine Evil

vestal cove
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The full modular one then

muted patio
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Sure

upper condor
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Aight got to eat dinner I'll be back

vestal cove
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Ok

latent bronze
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PSU's my top choice is Seasonic

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EVGA second and ThermalTake 3rd

vestal cove
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Thank you for the help guys

muted patio
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If you want to go Seasonic this one is good

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Fulgor#8344 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

subtle pier
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bruh

latent bronze
subtle pier
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bokay kid friendly man, in laymans terms how would the following hold up if I were to say pair my Oculus Quest up using Link?

  • Gigabyte A320M-S2H Motherboard
  • Ryzen 3 1200
  • GTX 1050
  • x1 Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR4
  • 1TB HDD
muted patio
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Rough

latent bronze
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B350 minimum

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and for VR you can forget it with a 1050

muted patio
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I wouldn't VR on that build but that's me

latent bronze
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The CPU can handle VR but would need to change the GPU to at least a 1650 Super

muted patio
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Even the CPU is gonna be rough

latent bronze
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I have a buddy that does VR with a 1300X not even overclocked and he has no issues

muted patio
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What games though?

subtle pier
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Pavlov, rec room, VRchat, etc
Nothing crazy on particles or fast movement like Death Lap or Beat Saber

latent bronze
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He is actually playing Rise of the Tomb Raider

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and yes it has a VR mode included

muted patio
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I'm honestly surprised

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Good to know

subtle pier
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I don't trust used but that's tempting

muted patio
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Get a GPU first

subtle pier
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Would the 1050Ti hold up or would I be able to fry eggs on it

muted patio
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1650 super is what Ecks said

subtle pier
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That bumps up the price of the upgrade from £128 to £276 :/

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I can't afford that

muted patio
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But you can afford a $400 quest?

subtle pier
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It took me a long time of saving up and even then the quest was a £345 used one

muted patio
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A 1050 TI works for some but can also give others nausea due to low FPS

latent bronze
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@subtle pier i can show you something more shocking

subtle pier
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go ahead

latent bronze
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would be like what 15 to 20 pounds more

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and a 1400 is 4 cores 8 threads

subtle pier
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That's awesome

latent bronze
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Also you can always go for a 8gb RX 570 or 580 for VR

subtle pier
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I've checked Oculus' official requirements and they said most of that would work anyways, but i suppose going off track works too

upper condor
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Is the 2060 super vr ready?

latent bronze
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Their official requirements are just for using it you have to look at things like the game requirements

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yes @upper condor

muted patio
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OH yeah

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Great VR card

latent bronze
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For Nvidia anything from a 1650 Super and above is VR ready

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970 and 1060 can do it as well but for people on a budget and wants to do VR you know would go for what they can afford

upper condor
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Yeah I dont understand why people want a low budget card but also a vr

latent bronze
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@upper condor If you ever go to an event or something that has VR i would suggest trying it out first before deciding on going for it

upper condor
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I have used one

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I was just checking

latent bronze
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1650 Super is a low budget card and can do VR without any problems

upper condor
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I'm not getting a vr for a while, I wanna get a good pc and peripherals first

latent bronze
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i threw up when playing a VR game so it is not for me

upper condor
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Oh ooF

latent bronze
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VR is not meant for everyone so

upper condor
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True

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I have a oculus fir phones

muted patio
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HL:Alyx + Rift S = Happy me

latent bronze
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Ill be back in about an hour going to walk to get Chinese food 😛

muted patio
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👋

latent bronze
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@muted patio ill only be happy if they would make a gosh darn HL3 game

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or even HL2 Ep3

upper condor
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They never will

latent bronze
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Epic games could pressure them into make it

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Remember they are making money from steam so what happens if Epic takes away most of their customers

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make something to bring them back

upper condor
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Eh

latent bronze
upper condor
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Itd be nice but

latent bronze
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Epic can be the key for HL3

upper condor
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But.....

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They made fortnite

latent bronze
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and Dauntless and a few other games

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anyways brb

upper condor
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I can't forgive them

subtle pier
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Okay

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I've just done a bit of research

upper condor
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On what

subtle pier
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Considering everything I have right now is obsolete and worth scrap metal and silicon, I've decided I'll just save up a year or smthn

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Fulgor#8344 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

subtle pier
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Forgot this bot's annoying rule

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Spending everything now will just leave me financially poopered and I'll be left with a half-usable non-futureproofed paperweight

upper condor
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Ok

subtle pier
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It's kinna ridiculous in my eyes how much i need to spend to build myself a good enough PC for the upcoming ~3 years but thats how it be

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£560 roughly

muted patio
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VR is hardware intensive

upper condor
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Very true

muted patio
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Most displays are 1440p

upper condor
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What do you have in mind @subtle pier

subtle pier
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A budget PC that'll run Oculus Link

muted patio
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Honestly your processor seems OK according to Ecks

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Just need a better GPU

subtle pier
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Yeah

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But it's one I'm buying, not one I have

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I have the GPU but not the motherboard, RAM stick or CPU

muted patio
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Oh, didn't realize you hadn't built it yet

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Fulgor#8344 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

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Fulgor#8344 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

upper condor
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Dang

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He got kicked

mossy citrus
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Oof

latent bronze
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That is what happens when you swear a lot

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i swear a lot but i know where to swear 😛

little osprey
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Can you oc non k cpus?

muted patio
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CPU's? Intel?

little osprey
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Ya

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Cpu i mean

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Smh

muted patio
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No

little osprey
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Jus looked into my bios nd i had boost on

muted patio
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Boost?

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Like, Boost clock?

little osprey
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Ya somethin like that

muted patio
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Ah, gotcha

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That's normal

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Not considered overclocking

little osprey
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Seemed like my pc wasnt running smooth with it on

muted patio
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Really, that's interesting

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What CPU?

little osprey
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I7 9700

muted patio
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What motherboard?

little osprey
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msi Z390 pro carbon

muted patio
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It may be worth updating your BIOS if it's not on the latest one

little osprey
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Ill check

muted patio
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Several BIOS revisions mention updated microcode and processor support

little osprey
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Like im running a game rn nd cpu is jumping around 90%

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Nd gpu is at 95

muted patio
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Depends on the game and settings

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That's not entirely out of the ordinary

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1080p tends to be more CPU bound

little osprey
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I when it sits at a 100% tho

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🤷‍♂️

muted patio
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Browser or something else running? Streaming?

little osprey
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Just the game nd discord

muted patio
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Voice discord?

little osprey
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No

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Jut open

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Idle

muted patio
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Interesting, what game?

little osprey
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Fn

muted patio
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Is it 100% all cores or just a few?

little osprey
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Where do i check that

muted patio
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Task manager, CPU tab

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Sorry, Performance tab

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then CPU

little osprey
muted patio
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258 FPS

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But yeah, I mean, I'd try a BIOS update and turn the boost clock back on

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Otherwise I'd say the CPU useage is normal unless you're getting stuttering

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Remember that the faster things go, the more CPU they use. It's not a bad thing to have a CPU load. It sounds like the CPU and GPU useage are about the same so I honestly don't see anything bad here

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You could also try capping your framerate which will reduce CPU load

little osprey
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Alright

brisk rapids
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Ok need some advice

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Trying to put together a list of parts for a build but the budget is tight and needs to include monitor and keyboard

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£650 or $850 is the budget

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Any ideas?

mossy citrus
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Whats the highest fps a monitor can go

muted patio
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240

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hz

sudden turret
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265hz

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@muted patio

muted patio
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orly

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I stand corrected

sudden turret
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ye-rly

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what kinda techie r u.

muted patio
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A sad panda

sudden turret
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jk

muted patio
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j/k

sudden turret
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HA

muted patio
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BEST TECHIE EVAR

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lol

sudden turret
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I swear I saw a 265hz panel somewhere

muted patio
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off to google

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uh oh

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Google doesn't agree with you

sudden turret
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oh

muted patio
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I found 165hz

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Overclock a 144hz monitor

sudden turret
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oooh maybe that's what I was thinking

muted patio
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I mean, you can probably OC one to 265

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Also, just because I can't find it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist

latent bronze
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@little osprey you're only gaming with that system right?

little osprey
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yeah thats it

latent bronze
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ok cause if you plan on streaming you might need to put it down to 720p for the output

little osprey
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the streamer life isnt for me lol

latent bronze
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i said that once and then i started streaming

cursive wharf
muted patio
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that's laptop tho, not standalone displays

cursive wharf
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Original question didn't specify it had to be standalone display :)

muted patio
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"Whats the highest fps a monitor can go" Monitor, not display. 😉

cursive wharf
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Laptop has a built in monitor

sudden turret
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lol.

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300hz is silly

latent bronze
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more like dumb than silly

stoic island
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Gimmick

cursive wharf
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Esp given laptop hardware

latent bronze
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And when 8K comes out as an actual thing that people can afford that will be back down to 60hz

cursive wharf
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Probs more like 30Hz

latent bronze
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would be 60 cause most companies knows they can't screw up on that

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They would do like 60 for computers and 30 for consoles

cursive wharf
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But 8k isn't worth it anyways most of the time. 4k is already not worth it most of the time. 1440p with MSAA looks basically the same as 4k on any standard monitor size

latent bronze
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4K i would like but for my Nvidia shield

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Just because of 4K media

cursive wharf
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For TVs, that shouldnt be too bad. But monitors? Not for gaming

latent bronze
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Gaming right now the limit should be 1440p aka 2K

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Cause if you look it took people like what 5 to 10 years to swap from 720p to 1080p so trying to transition to 4K for gaming to be i find is silly

sudden turret
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there is no limit to gaming you fool!

latent bronze
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There is always a limit you just don't see it 😛

sudden turret
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it's always more more more more

jaunty karma
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Heyo

little osprey
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Ey

jaunty karma
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Is this good?

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To upgrade

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My psu is a 550w

little osprey
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Depends on what other components you have

jaunty karma
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Or should i just upgrade my gpu?

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Mine rn is a rx570

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4g

little osprey
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How about your cou

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Cpu

jaunty karma
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Ryzen 5 2600

little osprey
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I'd upgrade your gou tbh

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Gou

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GPU

jaunty karma
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Into?

little osprey
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A rx 590

wet oar
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@upper condor ill check the overall price for you one sec

upper condor
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Ok thanks

little osprey
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Or a gtx 1660ti

jaunty karma
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Rx590?

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How many gb?

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Of video graphics

little osprey
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Its 4 or 8

latent bronze
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8

little osprey
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I'd get 8

latent bronze
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But if you are going for the RX 500 series go for the 580

jaunty karma
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How much would that be?

latent bronze
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590 is just a 580 that is heavy overclocked

little osprey
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That's true

jaunty karma
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I have a budget

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How much is it?

upper condor
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What is it

jaunty karma
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$250

little osprey
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The 580 is about 250 cad

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For the 8gb

latent bronze
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Wait Canadian or US?

little osprey
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Cad

jaunty karma
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335 cad

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Then

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I just converted it

little osprey
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no 250 cad

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its 250 canadian

jaunty karma
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Ok

latent bronze
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for 250 Canadian you can get a 1060 or a 1650 Super

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both would be better to be honest

little osprey
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Yea

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I'd get a 1650 super

jaunty karma
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That covered 75% of my budget

latent bronze
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1650 Super is about 230$ Canadian

little osprey
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So it's cheaper, but it out performs an rx 580

latent bronze
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What is higher than the 590

jaunty karma
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Why does the rx 570 perform only 69 fps

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In ultra

little osprey
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Ah yes, hardware unboxed

jaunty karma
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My graphics are all maxed

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But i run like 105 fps

latent bronze
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That is mainly a 4gb 570

little osprey
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It also depends on the system

latent bronze
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cause remember there are 8gb 570's as well

little osprey
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Ye

latent bronze
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Normally for their test systems it would be like a 8th gen i7

little osprey
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By this summer I'll be building a pc with a 2500 budget

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Cant wait

jaunty karma
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Im feeling ok with my gpu atm

little osprey
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alright

latent bronze
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2 months i might be replacing parts or going back to Intel

jaunty karma
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So what can be a good thing to upgrade for streaming

little osprey
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i dont think you need a new psu

latent bronze
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for streaming you really need to go with Nvidia then

wet oar
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@upper condor the cheapest parts all together for the system now are $1475 usd or $2023 CAD for it all, i maybe paid 2200 cad

little osprey
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honestly i think gpu would be a reasonable upgrade

latent bronze
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The second you said streaming and RX 570 you would need a strong processor like a R7 2700

muted patio
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Indeed

upper condor
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Wow good value

jaunty karma
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Ryzen 7v

little osprey
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or a 2700x

jaunty karma
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?

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How much?

latent bronze
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Well if one was to overclock they wouldn't need the X version

mossy citrus
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Whats the best gpu for 250 to 340 dollars

little osprey
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true

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1660 ti

latent bronze
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between the 2700 and the X model when overclocked they pretty much perform the same

little osprey
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or 1660 super

jaunty karma
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Need price ples

wet oar
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add everything else i got, my 4k monitor and my side monitor and my mouse and keyboard and mic and everything maybe around 3000 cad or 2300 usd

mossy citrus
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What about a 2060

upper condor
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What's like the best mouse for under 60

mossy citrus
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Or 5500

wet oar
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cad or usd @upper condor

upper condor
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Usd

latent bronze
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don't start thinking about the 5500 XT

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waste of money right there

mossy citrus
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Ok

wet oar
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are you doing big gaming or just everyday stuff

upper condor
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Gaming

mossy citrus
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A mix

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But imma be doing multitasking

jaunty karma
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Price of ryzen 7 2700

latent bronze
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@mossy citrus want to see the performance of the 5500 XT?

mossy citrus
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Sure

latent bronze
wet oar
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id say get something from logitech or something, idk much about mice

latent bronze
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1650 Super is about 160$ US and the 5500 XT is 200$

mossy citrus
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O

latent bronze
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im sorry but 2 fps more for 40$ more is not worth it

mossy citrus
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Yea

cursive wharf
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Also loss of NVENC

latent bronze
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that to

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when streaming Nvidia wins that

jaunty karma
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@upper condor Razer Death Adder

wet oar
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note to everyone, i would not recommend the RTX series for anyone just getting a gpu, RTX doesnt do as much as its hyped up to do

latent bronze
wet oar
#

i can say this as thr sad owner of a 2060 hahaha

muted patio
#

The RTX cards aren't just about Ray Tracing though

latent bronze
#

They have a clearance going on now

muted patio
#

for streamers, it's a better option than a 5700XT

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And I also have one

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For the record

wet oar
#

you can get se same performance out of most rtx cards as you get from the 10 series

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other than supers

cursive wharf
#

Or drivers, 5700 is a hit or miss for people

muted patio
#

Uh

mossy citrus
#

Is a corsair cxm 550 a good psu for the price

wet oar
#

those are a bit better

cursive wharf
#

@mossy citrus cxm has fan/coil whine issues

mossy citrus
#

Ok

jaunty karma
#

Ouf

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Over budget

latent bronze
#

Right now i have someone that commented on my video asking how come with my old RX 570 i was able to get 60+ FPS on Doom but he was only able to get 40 fps and also the CPU i had the time of my video was a 2400G while he was using a 2700 and when i told him to downgrade the drivers he sent me a personal message saying thanks that helped

jaunty karma
#

Are these ok to upgrade?

latent bronze
#

AMD drivers are hit or miss depending on what you are playing from what i can tell

mossy citrus
#

Would u reccomend a corsair vs

cursive wharf
#

no

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VS is old and lacks modern protections

latent bronze
#

Personally for PSU's i would usually recommend Seasonic

cursive wharf
#

no, dont recommend by brand

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Seasonic makes garbage PSUs too

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S12 and M12 for example

latent bronze
#

I haven't seen any issues with Seasonic

upper condor
#

Hey

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Can I get a 3rd opinion on this build

cursive wharf
#

All companies make garbage PSUs and good ones

upper condor
latent bronze
#

But i still remember that Corsair that went up in flames lol

jaunty karma
#

@upper condor

mossy citrus
jaunty karma
#

Probably a razer death adder

latent bronze
#

I see someone going for my case lol

cursive wharf
#

@upper condor change RAM
@mossy citrus no, also old PSU lacking modern protections

jaunty karma
#

@cursive wharf

upper condor
#

Ecks yeah

mossy citrus
#

My friend wanted a 2000$ pc so i did a list with dual 2070 supers lol

jaunty karma
#

Is a DE550W psu ok

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These are the things im planning to upgrade

latent bronze
#

2070 Super in SLI is a waste i find

mossy citrus
#

What is a good psu under 70 dollars

muted patio
#

Uh, SLI is a complete waste of money

upper condor
#

@cursive wharf why change my ram

cursive wharf
#

@upper condor High end system with subpar freq and timings. Same with SSD, pretty subpar

upper condor
#

So change to more ram?

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Or better

jaunty karma
#

@cursive wharf is that good?

latent bronze
#

If he is just gaming the SSD is fine

upper condor
#

I'm just gaming

cursive wharf
#

not more RAM, the frequency/speed and timings arent good for the budget
@jaunty karma still looking into it

upper condor
#

Light streaming sometimes

jaunty karma
#

Oki

cursive wharf
#

just gaming? So what's the point of the high end mobo then? No need for that at all but you have it

latent bronze
#

NVMe's are nice and all but what i saw from starting up windows and playing games there is pretty much no difference

upper condor
#

I will use other stuff

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Some video editing

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But what should I do to the ram then

latent bronze
#

Video editing you would need a NVMe then

cursive wharf
#

spend $24 more on a 1tb NVMe drive

upper condor
#

Ok

latent bronze
#

just gaming alone would be a 2.5" instead

upper condor
#

Wait did anyone say my ram was not good

latent bronze
#

i quit doing video editing along time ago cause i was not cut out for it

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Hei said it

cursive wharf
latent bronze
#

Well i think he was talking to you

cursive wharf
#

yeah, RAM isnt all too amazing given how high end the system is

upper condor
#

So then in future upgrade ram first

jaunty karma
#

@cursive wharf

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About the upgrades

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Their within my budget

cursive wharf
latent bronze
upper condor
#

@cursive wharf thanks very helpful

latent bronze
#

I have my case on the floor (using a case stand) so for me it doesn't bother me with what i have but if you plan on having it on your table/desk you could always go for the one i linked

cursive wharf
#

@jaunty karma So the capacitors in that cooler master PSU may not last too long

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maybe causing failure within say a few years

upper condor
#

Ecks I'll look at that one

latent bronze
#

it is the same price as well

upper condor
#

Imagine if pcpartpicker didnt exist

latent bronze
#

We'd be using Newegg wishlist system then

jaunty karma
#

So what do you suggest

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To keep my psu

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And use the money for smth else

latent bronze
#

how old is the PSU you have now and which one is it

jaunty karma
#

Deepcool DE550w

latent bronze
#

Man that is a very old model i don't even see it on the Deepcool site

jaunty karma
#

Ouf

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Should i get another monitor

little osprey
#

will this motherboard work with this processor

latent bronze
#

For really old PSU's you should get a new one when building a new system

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With which processor

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@little osprey if you mean the 3000 series then yes

little osprey
#

this is the processor i want

#

whats a good video card

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it has to be 4gig

latent bronze
#

All MSI Max series boards will work with that processor

little osprey
#

i need help on a video card

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and what case should i get

muted patio
#

4 gig video card why?

little osprey
#

what size should i get

mossy citrus
latent bronze
little osprey
#

i want a full size because im putting liquid cooling in it

mossy citrus
#

Yea thats better

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Should i use an rx 570 or 1050

latent bronze
#

@mossy citrus knock off about 5 to 15 frames from this video and that would be your performance

mossy citrus
#

Ok

latent bronze
#

If someone is building something very similar to what i have i would use my own video's for a performance reference

mossy citrus
#

Rx 570 vs 1050

latent bronze
#

570 would beat a 1050 but a 1650 Super would beat a 570

little osprey
#

what video card should i get

latent bronze
#

RX 5700 @little osprey

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Even if you were to mention streaming the 3800X could handle that for you

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If there are people going for Ryzen 3's or 5's then for streaming it would always be Nvidia

muted patio
#

3800X why

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3700x

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Only thing 3800 offers is higher base clocks

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Boost clock is 100mhz higher

#

Not worth the money

mossy citrus
#

So i want a build that can play some games, and have some google docs in the backround, and maybe do a small stream

latent bronze
#

Well no idea if he plans on overclocking

muted patio
#

Ryzen doesn't overclock

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Just let PBO do it's thing

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My 3700x does 4.3 all core with PBO.

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Well, 4250 but close enough

latent bronze
#

Well there are people that uses Ryzen Master and does actual overclocking

mossy citrus
#

And under 700 dollars

muted patio
#

I use RYzen master

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There's so little headroom on the Ryzen chips

latent bronze
#

@mossy citrus what do you mainly plan on playing?

muted patio
#

My point is, 200 mhz for an extra $50 isn't worth it IMO.

mossy citrus
#

Like some fps, rpgs, and sandboxes

latent bronze
#

Could you give me some name of these games cause i could tweak it out

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Also the Matrexx cases don't bother with them

mossy citrus
#

Ghost recon bp, minecraft, overwatch etc

latent bronze
#

If you plan on playing Overwatch 2 you can cheap out a little on the CPU and get a better GPU

mossy citrus
#

I want 4 cores and 8 threads at least

little osprey
#

whats a good liquid cooler

latent bronze
#

Do you live near a microcenter?

#

and then go for a 1660 Super instead

#

And @muted patio you know i am right on that lol

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Also if i remember if you bundle that CPU with a motherboard over there you save like 30$ more

muted patio
#

wait wut

latent bronze
#

If so you can get a better case as well

mossy citrus
#

I cant cuz the nearest one is in the town with the highest crime rate in the east side

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One of*

latent bronze
#

ask a hommie to join you then

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If i was going to a dangerous part of town i would actually ask my friends to join me which they usually would do

#

but then again it is for things they might also need so lol

mossy citrus
muted patio
#

highest crime rate means nothing provided you are smart about it. If you are taking public transportation that's another story. But driving to a store, shipping, and leaving is nothing to worry about

mossy citrus
#

There are litterally stray bullets flying

mossy citrus
#

Lol

little osprey
#

Any cpu recommendations for a MSI 2060 gaming z

muted patio
#

Ryzen 5

#

3600 or 2600

little osprey
#

Thanks

muted patio
#

YW

mossy citrus
#

Core i5 7600 or higher gen / core i7

little osprey
#

Thinking of either getting a i7-8700 or a ryzen 5 3600

muted patio
#

Are you going to be streaming or just gaming?

little osprey
#

Just gaming

muted patio
#

Probably I7 then

#

It's a beast for that

#

For streaming with multiple things running I'd go AMD

little osprey
#

And any motherboard recommendation

muted patio
#

Depends on the CPU

#

Once you choose that we can help more

mossy citrus
#

Yea

little osprey
#

Going with i7-8700

#

I have a build in mind but I just need to think of motherboard now

muted patio
#

SOmething Z390 for sure

#

Asus PRIME Z390

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Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro

#

something along those lines

#

MPG Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon

mossy citrus
#

Whats ur budget

little osprey
#

1.5k

mossy citrus
#

Ok

little osprey
#

I was thinking of getting: i7 8700, Corsair H100i, msi 2060, 32gb ram Corsair vengeance, 650 gold power supply

muted patio
#

Just food for thought

#

here's a $1500 build

#

No AIO though but you can change it as needed

little osprey
#

Ima go with that

muted patio
#

Stock cooler though

little osprey
#

I have an ssd and hdd already so I could use that money from the ssd for the aio

muted patio
#

Oh and the ram

#

I need to change that

#

That's Ryzen speed ram, overkill for your processor

#

BRB

little osprey
#

Ok thanks

muted patio
#

RGB or nah

little osprey
#

Preferably yeah

muted patio
#

k

mossy citrus
muted patio
#

There ya go

mossy citrus
#

Boom

#

Mine succ

#

Lol

muted patio
#

Nah

#

Just a different price point

mossy citrus
#

Its ok...

muted patio
#

I'd swap out the two SSD's for one Sabrent Rocket 1 TB NVME

#

Otherwise that's a good $1300 build

little osprey
#

Oof thanks I like the build ima go with that

muted patio
#

YW

mossy citrus
#

Which 1

#

Ok

muted patio
#

Hey, they're happy. Could be either build........

#

Save the one you have after you change the SSD

#

It's a good build

mossy citrus
muted patio
#

my next upgrade is 3-5 years out

#

Except for an NVME SSD

mossy citrus
#

I use a mid 2014 imac 21 inch

muted patio
#

It's a computer. You're ahead of many other folks

#

and I'm not talking third world either

mossy citrus
#

Its ddr3 and hdd

#

And 2 core i5

#

Integrated graphics

#

Thats enough to only play roblox

#

I need a ryzen $500 build

#

With some ssd storage

muted patio
#

Full tower?

austere condor
muted patio
#

Monitor, KB the whole works?

austere condor
#

ive got a lot of work to do

#

lol

muted patio
#

indeed you do!!

mossy citrus
#

Just the pc

#

I have a razer deathadder elite and ornata chroma

muted patio
#

$500, lemme see what I can do.

#

cracks knuckles

mossy citrus
#

And i can handle the monitor

austere condor
mossy citrus
#

Lol

muted patio
#

osnap

#

Demonmit with the win

mossy citrus
#

Thats GOOD FOR THAT BUDGET

muted patio
#

I'm not even gonna bother now LOL

mossy citrus
#

Ill just swap the ram for asthetics and the ssd too and case

austere condor
#

not the fanciest case ever

#

but it gets the job done

muted patio
#

AActually that looks pretty good

#

I like red lights

austere condor
#

red LED fans were extra

#

it comes with a basic black fan though

muted patio
#

Yeah for sure

mossy citrus
#

I prefer pure color change

#

But one color is gud

#

If i dont have the budget

austere condor
#

for $500 new, you can do pretty good

#

for $500 used

mossy citrus
#

Yea

austere condor
#

you can get some crazy stuff

mossy citrus
#

Yea

muted patio
#

oh for $500 used Demonmit can build a 3900x LOL

mossy citrus
#

But idk where to get used

austere condor
#

lol, im not THAT good

mossy citrus
#

Besides micro center

muted patio
#

/r hardware swap

mossy citrus
#

I dont have reddit

austere condor
muted patio
#

make an account

austere condor
#

thats one of my $500 builds

mossy citrus
#

Lets do a 2000 build off

austere condor
#

i5 8400, 16GB ram, Vega 64

muted patio
#

Dood

#

that's amazing

mossy citrus
#

Three of us lets go

muted patio
#

Demonmit had the partpicker link saved, I've seen it before

austere condor
#

my $1500 list is better than most $2000 lists

#

lol

muted patio
#

let's do it

austere condor
#

intel

muted patio
#

Ah, you crammed in a 2080

#

I've got an NVME

austere condor
#

2080 super

muted patio
#

I've got 32 GB of Ram

#

some tradeoffs there

#

I like that case though, I'm remembering that one

austere condor
#

there

#

NVMe drive

muted patio
#

19 cents under

#

wow

#

You win

austere condor
#

maximum gaming performance possible

muted patio
#

Indeed

#

Mind if I keep that one?

austere condor
#

go for it

#

XD

muted patio
#

no really, it's a good one

#

I've got a bunch in Notepad for quick access

austere condor
#

i need to go back in and update them

#

pricing has changed

muted patio
#

Osnap

#

Yeah but don't you do this for a living?

austere condor
#

sorta? i just buy used though

muted patio
#

Ah, OK

#

I knew you had a business but didn't know it was repurposed only

austere condor
#

i mean, when someone wants a new PC, i do that too, but, i mostly sell used systems, and do repairs and service calls

muted patio
#

Gotcha!

mossy citrus
#

2000 build

muted patio
#

page not found

mossy citrus
#

Ok hold on

#

I gotta start all over again

muted patio
#

awwww

sacred obsidian
#

Man I just upgraded my pc and I wanna build another one lol

#

Been looking through build pics and a lot of em are soooo pretty

mossy citrus
austere condor
#

what

#

the hell

#

is that

mossy citrus
#

Ikr its chaos

austere condor
#

if you could do everything wrong in one list

#

you did it

mossy citrus
#

...thx

muted patio
#

Well, X570 is for 3000 series Ryzens

#

Also, SLI is dead

#

So go with a single video card

austere condor
#

mediocre cooler

muted patio
#

Don't forget an NVME drive also

austere condor
#

garbage SSD's

mossy citrus
#

It peforms better than a 2080ti

austere condor
#

garbage case

#

bad fans

muted patio
#

Well, games don't support SLI anymore

sacred obsidian
#

It only performs better if the game supports it

muted patio
#

It's going away

sacred obsidian
#

None do

mossy citrus
#

Ok

muted patio
#

Eh, some do

sacred obsidian
#

Or very few do

muted patio
#

but developers are leaving it behind

sacred obsidian
#

Not enough for it to be worth it. One gpu is more than enough for most games at this point

austere condor
#

better optimized $2000 gaming PC build

muted patio
#

What's with that RAM?

#

Been seeing it more lately

sacred obsidian
#

Also how dare you knock my blue brand

#

They’ve served me well and cheaply for years

muted patio
#

Reluctant to buy it not knowing anything about Tforce

austere condor
#

WD blue M.2 drives have always been mediocre

#

and their SSD's

#

just

#

no

#

lol

sacred obsidian
#

But cheap

austere condor
#

much better options that cost the same or cost less

sacred obsidian
#

You should see what nvme my cousin got

muted patio
#

Sabrent is kinda the sweet spot now IMO for NVME

sacred obsidian
#

Idk the brand but it doesn’t even look like it’s worth anything lol

dense glen
#

does anyone here know about fixing radeon rx 5700 xt drivers? when i download them it causes white dots everywhere and black screen for a split second sometimes

muted patio
#

Install them you mean?

austere condor
#

sounds more like a memory error than a driver error

muted patio
#

Typically the white dots mean a bad GPU

#

What 5700XT is it? brand wise?

austere condor
#

^

dense glen
#

powercolor red dragon

austere condor
#

id return it a DOA and get a new one tbh

muted patio
#

Oh that's surprising

#

Those are supposed to be good cards

austere condor
#

it happens with every brand

muted patio
#

Of course

#

BUt I agree, I'd RMA it

austere condor
#

yeah, its getting memory artifacting, so, i'd get a replacement

dense glen
#

ok thats the only way to fix it?

austere condor
#

i mean, you can open the card and check to make sure your thermal pads are on the ram properly put on top of the memory chips

#

but

#

if you dont know how to do that

#

its easier to just get a replacement

dense glen
#

ok thanks

#

what card would i replace it with? that would have the same or better performance around $400

mossy citrus
#

V3 HERE WE GOhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/chXrGc

muted patio
#

RMA it

#

In other words, you return it under warranty

#

They send you a new one

mossy citrus
#

Maybe rtx

cursive wharf
#

@mossy citrus change PSU. G3 wasnt that great, heck even G2 is better than G3

#

you have a gen4 NVMe with x470

#

You're getting a high end system with mid/low-ish end RAM

mossy citrus
#

🤦‍♂️

cursive wharf
#

860 Evo is overpriced

mossy citrus
#

I wish i had my chromebook to do this

cursive wharf
#

case has bad airflow
Notcua CPU cooler is decent, but overpriced

muted patio
#

Oh yeah, avoid the H510

cursive wharf
#

With 2k budget you can easily get a 3700x and 2080Ti

mossy citrus
#

B450 or X570

muted patio
#

X570

#

3700x

mossy citrus
#

Ok

cursive wharf
mossy citrus
#

Im dun

cursive wharf
#

@mossy citrus Just use my list. MSI done a bad job on most of their x570 boards so not worth getting MSI, RAM is still cheap in your build, G2 while is decent is overpriced

mossy citrus
muted patio
#

$2000 and no X570? oof.

cursive wharf
#

x570 does what here?

#

enable Gen4 for no Gen4 drives?

#

allows proper use of 3950x that isnt being used?

mossy citrus
#

Quick, whats the best ryzen 3

muted patio
#

Think ahead, not curently. it won't be upgraded for 2-4 years most likely. For a few bucks more you get the tech that will soon be full market as Intel is going that way too

mossy citrus
#

True..

#

I need 4-6 cores

cursive wharf
mossy citrus
#

My current computer takes 10 minutes to boot and 5 minutes to boot chrome/safari

#

I need a 500/600 dollar build

cursive wharf
#

I mean that's mostly due to having an HDD rather than an SSD
Also you posted a 2k build, so is this another build as well or smth?

mossy citrus
#

I cant afford a 2k build

#

I need a 500/600 dollar build for mild gaming and school/multitasking

latent bronze
#

And the build you had earlier was useless why?

mossy citrus
#

Its a mac

#

Ive never had a windows pc

#

Or a laptop

#

I either have a mac or chromebook

latent bronze
#

Didn't you show like a few hours ago like a 600-700 $ build?

mossy citrus
#

That wasnt me

#

That was demonmit

muted patio
#

$500

#

that's Demonmit's build

cursive wharf
latent bronze
cursive wharf
#

should be able to fit 16GB ram there pretty sure tho @muted patio

#

for like few $ above 500

sacred obsidian
#

IMO the stock cooler on the 2600 is more than sufficient if you don’t oc. Why replace it with a better cooler?

latent bronze
#

The wraith stealth is a decent cooler

#

i tried it out once and it cooled but not well enough for my standards

cursive wharf
#

@sacred obsidian noise

sacred obsidian
#

Mines super quiet

#

But I’m also deaf

mossy citrus
vestal cove
#

Probably should get more storage

#

Maybe switch the ssd to 1tb ssd or add a 1tb hdd

mossy citrus
#

I dont need 1tb storage

real epoch
#

highend all white gaming pc

#

only thing is the gpu, i cant find a good white one

muted patio
#

Expensive

#

Oof

real epoch
#

id say buy the one i put in and just change the rgb to white

muted patio
#

Remove the shroud

#

Paint white

#

reinstall

real epoch
#

paint

#

yeah

latent bronze
#

@muted patio also not sold and shipped by Newegg >_<

muted patio
#

No but only one I could find

#

Literally

latent bronze
#

reason why they were sold out is a lot of Xmas builds

cursive wharf
#

@mossy citrus EVGA BR is bad, dont go for it

#

So is EX900

#

not that great

#

That RAM is overpriced

#

you can get twice as much RAM for almost that amount

mossy citrus
#

Ok?

#

So what is good?

cursive wharf
#

Are you trying to keep it closer to $500 or $600?

mossy citrus
#

500

#

@cursive wharf

cursive wharf
eager chasm
#

That's a nice $500 build :)

stone garden
#

Hey was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on a build?

#

I've been wanting to build a new computer for a while but part compatability was always a problem for me so I never had much luck

#

But I recently found a build online from the pc master race subreddit that is supposed to be pretty good

#

I wasn't really sure how up to date this build is thouogh

#

and was also curious about cooling for a build like this

#

Is it normal to invest in water cooling for a build like this? or even just extra case fans?

#

I'm very new to building so apologies if these questions seem silly

sterile wave
#

This is a fairly high end build

#

Like 1440p or 4k

#

Since this build doesn't include a monitor, what do u currently have or plan to get

#

And what's ur overall budget

stone garden
#

I hadn't really picked out a monitor but wasn't planning on going as high as 4k more likely a 1440p monitor

sterile wave
#

Ud likely want a 1440p 144hz to get the most out of this computer

stone garden
#

My budget is somewhat flexible but I wouldn't like to stray super far from the current build price

sterile wave
#

And those can get quite pricey

stone garden
#

Yeah the monitor was something that did concern me price wise

sterile wave
#

Does that include monitor budget?

#

Ahh ok

stone garden
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That's why I hadn't picked one out yet

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I wasn't sure how the build itself looked or if I'd need to invest more into water cooling etc and so left the monitor till last

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Is there any edits you think you would make to the build itself?

jaunty karma
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You have a good build

stone garden
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So the build itself is solid and I should just start looking into a good monitor?

sterile wave
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Do u plan on overclocking

stone garden
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I've never done any overclocking in the past but if you would reccomend it I would look into it?

sterile wave
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I mean as far as I know ryzen 3000 overclocking isn't the most effective as the chips are already pushed fairly high out of the box, so I think you'd be fine running on stock

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Any workstation projects ull be doing?

stone garden
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Not exactly sure what you mean?

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But if I don't know what you mean I'm geussing no lol