#building-and-recc-chat

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muted patio
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Probably is

oblique karma
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Let’s see some pictures of slot with the card removed

muted patio
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What motherboard it is?

oblique karma
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That’s gonna be the most helpful

muted patio
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is it?

little osprey
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z390 a pro

muted patio
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I'm a grab a book

oblique karma
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We’ll get you through this

little osprey
round flare
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bro building on christmas

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what fun

muted patio
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Ah

oblique karma
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pats @little osprey visibly damp head with towel

muted patio
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take the standoff out

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Screw it into the right hole

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Then use another screw to hold the M.2 into the standoff

oblique karma
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Bingo!!!!

little osprey
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how do i take the standoff out though

oblique karma
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Good question

round flare
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You just screw it out

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with your hands

little osprey
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oh

muted patio
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From the manual

round flare
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wait is it not a thumb screw

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I already forgot how to build

oblique karma
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I’d get some grippy sons of grabbers and turn that puppy out

muted patio
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Eh, kinda. If it's tight might need a screwdriver

round flare
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it's been like 3 months only lol

little osprey
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got it

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hold you’re applause

muted patio
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LOL

round flare
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my are applause

oblique karma
elder canyon
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I'm good now but god the front panel connectors were annoying

little osprey
muted patio
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YAY!

oblique karma
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Gang gang

muted patio
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PS, I don't have NVME drives yet. Therefor I am jealous

little osprey
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at least you know how to use them

muted patio
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Eh

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Every motherboard is different though, that's the spoopy part

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Some use different standoffs

round flare
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Nvme gud

lyric thistle
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the verge not the verge

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how about this

old charm
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what is the first thing I should do if my pc boots up but there is nothign on the display but it was working fine this morning?

lyric thistle
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ofc budget is irrelevant in your situation since you seem to have all the parts?

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try hooking up a vga monitor, or some other display output you may have that will work to see if the screen shows anything

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not sure if that's great advice but it's the first thing I would think to do

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

old charm
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well it is plugged into my tv currently

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and i switched over to another input and turned my ps4 on and it shows up fine

lyric thistle
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ah

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I have an old Sharp 1366x768 tv and it wouldn't show up for my computer 😔

old charm
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and I don't exactly know how to power my pc off if I can't see the screen

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damn

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time to bust out that manual

muted patio
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Try a different jack on the video card

old charm
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there's only 1 HDMI

muted patio
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o

old charm
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it's weird

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like everything powers on

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there's just no signal

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and it worked perfeclty fine this morning too

lyric thistle
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try uh

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flipping it around maybe

muted patio
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Well, everything works fine until it doesn't

old charm
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is there like a safe, universal way to turn it off?

muted patio
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Yeah, the reset putton

old charm
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hold the power button?

muted patio
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Or press and hold the power button

old charm
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imma just give it a good hot minute and try the good ol "off and on"

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I hate to keep turning it off/on though

oblique karma
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That’s how it always feels

old charm
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so ture lol

old charm
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wow

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that actually worked

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is there any reason that would happen?

lyric thistle
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maybe it didn't recognize something for whatever reason

old charm
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i did technically swtich it from HDM2 to HDMI 1 but that honestly shouldn't matter

eager chasm
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With modern OSs hard shutoffs aren't really damaging unless you did it during an update or bios flash

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There are multiple auto recovery tools both with the OS and many programs

arctic wing
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Hello all, this is my first time here.
I am building a new machine and I wanted to be sure the parts for my new build were compatible. Am I in the right place?

round flare
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yes

arctic wing
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Nice! should I post my list?

lyric thistle
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sure

arctic wing
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Rosewill Gaming ATX Full Tower Computer Case White Edition, Supports Up to E-ATX / XL-ATX, Comes with Four Fans - THOR - $99.99
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147158?Item=N82E16811147158

MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS Gaming Motherboard AMD AM4 SATA 6Gb/s M.2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 HDMI ATX $162.99
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144262?Item=N82E16813144262

CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2933 (PC423400) -$289.99
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236480?Item=N82E16820236480

AMD RYZEN 7 2700 8-Core 3.2 GHz (4.1 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W YD2700BBAFBOX -$149.99
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-2700/p/N82E16819113498?Item=N82E16819113498

SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series 2.5" 1TB SATA III V-NAND 3-bit MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-76E1T0B/AM - $109.99
https://www.newegg.com/samsung-860-evo-series-1tb/p/N82E16820147673?Item=N82E16820147673

MSI Radeon RX 570 DirectX 12 RX 570 ARMOR MK2 8G OC 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support- $238.44
https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-570-rx-570-armor-mk2-8g-oc/p/N82E16814137291?Item=9SIA73M83Z9000

COOLMOON Gaming 80 Plus Bronze 600W Power Supply PSU, Full Modular 600 Watt 80 Plus Bronze Certified - $89.99 -
https://www.newegg.com/p/1HU-020Y-00001?Item=9SIAHW79Z82870

round flare
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this all looks pretty good

muted patio
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RX570?

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for $238?

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No

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1660 Super

round flare
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oh what

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didn't even see that price

muted patio
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64 GB of RAM?

round flare
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yeah no

arctic wing
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I will check

muted patio
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why so much ram?

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Only need 16-32 GB

arctic wing
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I edit video

muted patio
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Also, Ryzen 2000 series with X570 motherboard is a bit pointless

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Either go 3000 series and X570 or 2000 series and B450, X370 or X470

round flare
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do you have a budget you could give us

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to make you list of our own

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just to see

arctic wing
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12 or 13

round flare
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hundred?

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alright

arctic wing
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yes

muted patio
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I mean, I know you edit video but 64 GB of ram really needed?

arctic wing
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Thats what I have now.

strange violet
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So I pushed my ryzen 5 2600 to 3.95 ghz but it wont sit stable at 4 ghz

muted patio
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my understanding is that 32 GB for $k editing, and 64 GB for 8K editing

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*4K

strange violet
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And I've pushed my voltage to 1.32V

dry tinsel
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i think it's fine to let him have 64GB, he's comfortable working with that much

muted patio
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Well, the money could be spent on a 3700X

dry tinsel
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it's not the most expensive thing in a system

muted patio
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which for editing would be a big boost

dry tinsel
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ah i see

muted patio
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more cores/threads and clock speeds

arctic wing
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Well now I have 64 DDR3

muted patio
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How much of that actually gets used though?

little osprey
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The adobe suite eats ram for dinner.

arctic wing
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Well when I am rendering something from After Effects most of it.

muted patio
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Well, then go to a B450 board for the 2700 then

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No need for X570 with a 2000 series

dry tinsel
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and the B450 is open for an upgrade later

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when BIOS is updated

arctic wing
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I am checking it...

muted patio
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Most new motherboards shipping should have the ABBA BIOS for Ryzen 3

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SO change that and the RX570 to a 1660 super

arctic wing
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do you like asus or msi?

muted patio
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For...?

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Motherboard?

arctic wing
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the b450

muted patio
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B450 Tomahawk is a good one

warped moat
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One of the best b450 mobos is the msi b450 tomahawk

arctic wing
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Okay got it

round flare
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fast ram

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if you need 64 that can be done

little osprey
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No m.2 nvme boot?

muted patio
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Newegg is out of stock on the good 1660 Super, so Amazon has one.

dry tinsel
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that build is overwrought a little bit

muted patio
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Well, on Dec 30th they have one

little osprey
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3600/3700x/, best yet a 3900x over a 2700x would be my pick for that use case.

dry tinsel
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the AIO isn't necessary

muted patio
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OP on a tight budget though, 1200-1300. Can be done with a 1660 super ILO 5700XT and H100i

round flare
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ya

arctic wing
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Bekora nice list.

muted patio
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I haven't made one?

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Anni did

dry tinsel
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i didn't

muted patio
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But needs a couple changes

dry tinsel
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someone else did

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i don't know who

muted patio
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Oh, Emperor Calus

dry tinsel
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the AIO is too much, you could create a lot of headroom with a Hyper T2/212 Evo

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which are both cheap

arctic wing
muted patio
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Working on a list

gentle belfry
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Any recommended builds with a 1k budget??

round flare
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lol

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64 gigs

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boot drive

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1660s

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good evga one

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scythe mugen

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seems good to me

muted patio
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3700x

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X570

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$1300

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NVME drive

gentle belfry
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2060 super or 2070 super??

muted patio
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1K budget?

gentle belfry
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Whats the difference anyways??

muted patio
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For a whole build?

gentle belfry
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Nevermind the 1k budget

muted patio
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Ah, if you aren't a streamer, get a 5700XT

gentle belfry
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Yeah im prolly not going to stream

muted patio
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5700XT then. At the $400 price point, it can't be beat for 1440p and VR gaming. 1080p too

little osprey
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Looks good, but I wouldn't rule out the option for swapping the prism for a $50-$80 air cooler - they last forever and can run quieter if that is of value.

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can always just start with the prism and change later if desired

muted patio
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Right, was trying to stay under $1300

dry tinsel
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working on a list atm

little osprey
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I have a buddy running a 2700x on a prism, but his pc is next to the central air intake, so noise is a non-issue.

muted patio
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My 3700X on the prism did OK but was a tad warm

gentle belfry
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The 2060 super is significantly cheaper than the 2070 super, but whats the difference

muted patio
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Ray Tracing ability, pretty much

little osprey
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I have mine on a dark rock pro 4 - runs fine, don't really OC or anything anyway, but silence is nice

muted patio
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2060 ray tracing is oof

gentle belfry
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I feel they can both run a 1440 p with raytracng

muted patio
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2070 ray tracing is OK

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NO

gentle belfry
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Raytracing*

muted patio
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2060 ray tracing at 1080 is sub 50 FPS

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I have one

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2070 super or bust

arctic wing
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The 7VFGk6 list looks great for my budget

gentle belfry
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So... would you recommend the 2070 super??

muted patio
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If you want ray tracing at 1440p, yes

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@arctic wing ONly thing I'd consider is adding a Scythe Mugen 5 now or later down the road for CPU cooling. Or a good 240mm AIO

gentle belfry
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Alright thank you:)

muted patio
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Welcome!

dry tinsel
muted patio
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Hyper 212 Evo is not great for the money

dry tinsel
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really? I have had nothing but good experiences with it

little osprey
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Mugen 5 is pretty crazy good for the value, I just like Noctua's mounting hardware over everything I've used.
I'm not a huge noctua fan fan other than the prohibitively expensive NF A12x25

muted patio
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On Ryzen, it was the equivalent of the stock Prism

dry tinsel
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if you can suggest a better one by all means

muted patio
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Scythe Mugen 5

dry tinsel
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my knowledge of coolers at that price range is limited

muted patio
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Or Noctua DH14 or 15

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Oh, 14 is $80

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nm

round flare
arctic wing
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Scythe Mugen 5 is a good deal, thanks

round flare
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hows this

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for 1k budget

muted patio
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U14 or U12 for the Noctua

dry tinsel
little osprey
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u12a is the dual nf a12x25 model

muted patio
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Trade out the Samsung evo for a sabrent Rocket M.2 1 TB

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only $10 more for twice the storage and speed

dry tinsel
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that upper thing @arctic wing

round flare
muted patio
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@round flare Sabrent ROcket 1 TB NVME is only $10 more than the Samsung. I'd just go with that rather than the samsung

arctic wing
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where did you find the sabrent Rocket M.2 1 TB?

round flare
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I did

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I switched it out

muted patio
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Huh

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It's not showing

round flare
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wait wT

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wat

muted patio
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Sabrent Rocket is on Amazon

round flare
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here

arctic wing
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Okay thank you

muted patio
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That's a good 1K build

round flare
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That's right

muted patio
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Not familiar with that RAM brand but haven't heard anything bad about it either

round flare
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calus made a good list

dry tinsel
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i did one slightly under $13K

round flare
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first time

muted patio
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$13K??

round flare
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quad 2080ti

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3990x

muted patio
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I just bought a new motorcycle for that lol

round flare
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godlike

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And some 1600w psu

polar holly
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my work build is that

round flare
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can't forget the level 20

muted patio
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Funny enough, I've seen a 1600watt PSU

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crazy huge

little osprey
round flare
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not at all

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that's too little power

muted patio
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DOOD

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Breaided line AN fitting water cooling?

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What were you up to>???

arctic wing
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Thats a great deal

little osprey
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Chiller test bed lol.

muted patio
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Ah

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That's high grade automotive stuff lol

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I see the cooler and the fan now

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Looks like an auto trans or power steering cooler

little osprey
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Yep, oil cooler, derale 8an unit.

muted patio
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Ah, nice!!

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Work well or nah?

little osprey
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Ya, I'll post more in #old-cooling if interested, don't want to de-rale (ha) the build chat

muted patio
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just curious, I thought of using automotive stuff for a cooler

oblique karma
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Let’s us know what she cranks out when you put it on the dyno

little osprey
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1.21 gigawatts

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what is this cable

muted patio
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Molex for power

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Old school power connector

little osprey
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do i need to connect it

muted patio
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Not unless something needs it

little osprey
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so would my gpu be fine with just the 8 pin

muted patio
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Uh, what GPU?

little osprey
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its a 5700

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im hooking it up to the psu now

round flare
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I mean

muted patio
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No, need both plugs

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8 and 6 pin?

oblique karma
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It’s called a boomer cable

round flare
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you should fill all the plugs lol

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lol

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molex

muted patio
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Might have come with a Molex to 6 pin or 8 pin connector

little osprey
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8 and 6 yeah

muted patio
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Yeah, the card probably came with a Y cable

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use it

oblique karma
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It’s how we hooked up that their ide and scsi drives.

muted patio
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and fans

oblique karma
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And powered our gpus

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Our agp 4x gpus

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Like All In Wonder 9800 Pros

little osprey
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You definitely need to plug in both pcie plugs on a gpu. Both the 8 and 6 pin in this case. It can be safe to use adapters like a 2x molex to 1x pcie , but always check psu rail current limits.

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Avoid sata power -> pcie power adapter like the plague unless you really know the electrical bits' details or you enjoy fire.

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does this look right

round flare
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holy heck

muted patio
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The plugs should be labeled

little osprey
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oh no

muted patio
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PCI-E is for the GPU

round flare
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why is there so many branches

cursive wharf
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@little osprey Is that modular?

little osprey
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semi

cursive wharf
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well uh, careful there then. Them modular cables can have weird pin outs

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Will work if you use the correct cables for the correct plug

little osprey
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I'm surprised adapters are needed at all - any/most modern PSU's shouldn' tneed them

cursive wharf
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Just make sure to look at any labels on the cables

little osprey
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the 8pin says pcie

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the 6 pin says nothing

muted patio
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Wait

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remove that Y cable

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The 6 pin is an 8 pin with the Extra 2 pin connector there. Then there is a 6 pin also

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Both of those go to the GPU

little osprey
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Right, so that PSU's dual 6+2 pcie power cable can feed the entire card alone.
Some (myself included) recommend running two cables anyway, but it's not critical.

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fixed it i think

cursive wharf
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I mean Jayz did a test on the daisy chain vs individual cables. Lost like 1% or <1% perf

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but still lost a very, very slight amount of perf

little osprey
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Performance isn't what I'd be concerned about, though, depends a lot on wire gaugue, PSU/GPU ofc , lot of unknows.

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Fix the other half and good to go

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aight thanks

eager chasm
little osprey
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should that be bent

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because it wont slide into the slot of my case

lyric thistle
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bend it back I guess

little osprey
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what would yall say is best p2p gpu rn
5700 with xt bios 🤔

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Is this the same as a add_header? I’m confused on where my fan hub goes to

lyric thistle
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do I gotta find a new music program to play my Completely Legal™️ music

spare swallow
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@little osprey bend it back man Carl

little osprey
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i got it in

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sagging a lot though, i have to prop it up

spare swallow
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you can use the same screws used for the psu 👌

tranquil dust
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No

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Stop

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No

old charm
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ugh it happebed again

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wtfffff

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my monitor comes like halfway on with the home screen and then flashes to black and gives me "no signal" but everything power-wise boots on perfectly fine

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I don't understand why this is happening

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and then just like yesterday, turning it off waiting a hot minute and then turning it back on sloved it immediately

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but I don't wanna have to do that EVERY TIME I turn on mypc

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it makes no sense

sterile wave
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So what's the issue? Monitor not turning on?

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Or rather no signal

old charm
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no my monitor turns on and works fine

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cables are connected and everything

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monitor powers on fine and everything

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but it just gives me no signal between my pc and the tv

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it comesl ike "halfway" on and then it looks like it just craps out

sterile wave
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Have u tried swapping out the cables

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And/or using different ports

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That includes different connectors if necessary

old charm
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I only have 1 HDMI port in my graphics card but I know we;ve got extra laying around soI should just try that next

sterile wave
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Yeah give that a go

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Ud be surprised how many times the cable is the issue :p

old charm
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with how many moving parts pc's have I wouldn't be surprised if ANYTHING in my case or attatched to it could be an issue

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that's what scares me about pc's lol

sterile wave
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I guess that's true

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I move my pc like just about never, I never really worry about that, yet it still worries me

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Gotta remind myself to just try a different cable if it's not working

old charm
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dust would be my main worry at that point

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I've only had my siystem for like 4 or 5 days

still roostBOT
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Wonderful Day#5480 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

sterile wave
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Oops

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Hehe

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Nice Christmas gift :p

old charm
muted patio
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Emperor Calus did one last night

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Leaves you room to choose a nice case and a larger HD for storage if you need one

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@little osprey

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Yeah, it's fine

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The B450 should come with the right BIOS to run the 3000 series Ryzen

old charm
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this is my exact build right now

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its actually like $100 cheaper than when I bought it

exotic thunder
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I'm trying to build a pc and having issues everywhere I go, yikes..

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It's my first pc as well-

muted patio
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Just take your time

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It'll be fine

exotic thunder
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Well not really

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Since.

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CPU fan won't spin, fan 1 and 3 won't spin in the case.

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I can't load up to my displayport.

muted patio
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CPU fan might only spin at a certain temperature

exotic thunder
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Oo

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I'm not sure.

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Its the wraith Prism.

muted patio
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Ah yeah

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BIOS setting for Quiet or low Power mode. it'll only spin when it gets warm

exotic thunder
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The Motherboard is the uh..

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X570-E

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I'm not sure where the uh.. Fan headers are

muted patio
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Manual

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Always read the manual. 😉

exotic thunder
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The manual seems.

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Pretty vague.

muted patio
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Should have a pic with fan header layout

exotic thunder
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I literally can't find fan headers in the manual

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Or at least I can't.

muted patio
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Page 1-10

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or 1-13

little osprey
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hold up

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aio coolers already have the liquid in them???

livid echo
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Using a b450 gaming plus max, updated bios from a thumb drive and now trying to boot up but for some reason it can't find the operating system...any thoughts?

sterile wave
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Make sure u are booting off the correct device

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Spam like f12 or whatever the key is for bootmenu, and make sure to select the device with os on it

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If that doesn't work, there might be some default settings after updating that are interfering, idk them off the top of my head, but you can look through storage configurations in bios/google the settings

old charm
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@little osprey well I can play hellblade and witcher 3 on max settings

livid echo
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@sterile wave the correct device is selected but when I press enter, nothing happens lol

sterile wave
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Oof

still roostBOT
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Wonderful Day#5480 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

sterile wave
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Gdi

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Go into bios and ensure settings are correct like ahci enabled and other stuff I don't remember

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U can google all the settings or wait for bigger brains here

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I'm on potato phone so can't browse rn

cursive wharf
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@livid echo make sure to switch between UEFI and Legacy boot a few times. Switch and then reboot twice or something to check, then switch and reboot few times

livid echo
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@cursive wharf what do you mean by legacy boot?

loud apex
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double bios is op

sterile wave
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Legacy is the older type of bios

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Now called legacy since it's older

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Uefi is modern and has more capabilities

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They're basically different bios versions, most modern boards should be uefi but support legacy

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So if u can find that setting somewhere in bios, try what Hei wrote

zenith glacier
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@muted patio Omg

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It’s psu!!!

muted patio
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Nice!

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Might be time to shop for a good one

zenith glacier
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That is good news

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My husband is ordering it

muted patio
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Which one?

zenith glacier
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Good thing we share same type. Or we would wait for part to come lol

sterile wave
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Platinum wow

zenith glacier
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Yea

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Gotta have it for top build

sterile wave
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👌

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Hmm

zenith glacier
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But

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Funny

sterile wave
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U kinda leaked ur address there

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I think

zenith glacier
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Lol oops

sterile wave
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Idk how American addresses work

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Might wanna delete

zenith glacier
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Thanks for noticing

sterile wave
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Np lol

zenith glacier
#

Anyway I don’t understand

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Old psu is this

#

Somehow it’s became failure in a barely year

sterile wave
#

Damn that's quite unlucky

muted patio
#

I'm not a Pau expert but you might consider asking someone else before you order.

#

You've had two fail now?

sterile wave
#

It's definitely a good quality psu it seems

zenith glacier
#

I did long ago when psu went weird and I found the solution that caused the weird way

#

Before psi’s weird happens. Like waking up in middle of night often.

#

So I found this and switched to single. No problem since until last night

#

So do you think psu was wearing down?

muted patio
#

Yes

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It had a failure on a power rail

zenith glacier
#

Ahh

muted patio
#

I'd ask in the power supply channel. I'm not super knowledgeable about those but someone else might be able to help.

zenith glacier
#

Will my psu be fine to be used for awhile?

sterile wave
#

U mean the computer turned on randomly in middle of night or just psu?

oblique karma
#

Yeah it is an inanimate object. It doesn’t care.

sterile wave
#

Psu's have feelings too 200Sad

oblique karma
#

Lol

zenith glacier
#

Yes

oblique karma
#

Sorry, that’s not a real gender.

zenith glacier
#

Lol

#

It kept waking up. We kept turning it off.

#

My pc never wake up

sterile wave
#

Hmmm

#

If it's pc, it could be other things, but honestly, I wouldn't use that psu especially since his computer looks quite expensive

#

Wouldn't want bad things to happen

zenith glacier
#

Yea

sterile wave
#

If it's acting up, time to say bye bye

zenith glacier
#

My psu?

sterile wave
#

The bad one

zenith glacier
#

Yea idk why it became worse

sterile wave
#

Urs is the rm 750?

zenith glacier
#

Use

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Yes

sterile wave
#

Has there been any funny behavior with the 750 in his pc?

zenith glacier
#

Not really

#

My husband is playing destiny 2

little osprey
#

thanks for all the help

zenith glacier
#

Is that chrome front

little osprey
#

no thats just the glare

zenith glacier
#

Man that look like so nice

#

I like two tone colors.

#

I am tempted to spray my pc’s inside white

little osprey
#

seems pretty good

zenith glacier
#

Okay then

muted patio
#

@zenith glacier

#

was the switch on Multiple before?

zenith glacier
#

Yes

muted patio
#

Ah

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That's why

#

Multiple splits the power between multiple rails

zenith glacier
#

Then I switched to single. No problems for few months

muted patio
#

Needs to be a high power single rail

zenith glacier
#

Then now

#

Yea

#

The new one ordered would be fine?

muted patio
#

How many amps does the 12V supply on it?

zenith glacier
muted patio
#

I would avoid a power supply that has a single and multiple rail switch

zenith glacier
#

Ok canceling it

#

Any psu you would recommend

muted patio
#

Looking now

zenith glacier
#

Ok

latent bronze
#

Seasonic

latent bronze
#

It is actually one of the better companies

zenith glacier
#

He want top one

#

Titanium or platinum

#

Lol

muted patio
#

not necessary

#

The Seasonic goold is well more than enough

#

The titanium/platinum thing is honestly just marketing

polar holly
#

the one i linked has a platinum option but i only use platinum or titanium when i way over push the psu

muted patio
#

Seasonic is a great manufacturer with quality components

#

Either of the two posted will be fine

latent bronze
polar holly
#

the only time i use them is when i am running 4gpu setups

zenith glacier
#

Oo

muted patio
#

1000 watts is overkill for a single card setup honestly

#

But if that's what they want it's not hurting anything

latent bronze
#

it is future proofing 😛

silver meteor
#

I need help

polar holly
#

yeah unless your running a super overkill processor

silver meteor
#

How am I going to install fans there

muted patio
#

You don't

zenith glacier
#

Actually

latent bronze
#

screwing it in?

muted patio
#

Or take the front cover off

silver meteor
#

It’s literally meant for installing fans

zenith glacier
#

My husband have i9-9900k

muted patio
#

Fans go inside

silver meteor
#

@muted patio how am I supposed to do that

sterile wave
#

Just pull

polar holly
#

that isnt a overkill processor

sterile wave
#

With some decent force

zenith glacier
#

It can be over looked

muted patio
#

Front cover should come off

zenith glacier
#

Oops

polar holly
#

i more mean xeon, hedt, threadripper

muted patio
#

Check your manual;

zenith glacier
#

OC

latent bronze
#

@silver meteor on the bottom there should be a handle thing to pull it off

zenith glacier
#

Ahh

silver meteor
#

@latent bronze the NR600 has that?

zenith glacier
#

Hey

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that look like my case

silver meteor
#

IT WORKED

zenith glacier
#

Kinda

silver meteor
#

@latent bronze

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IT WORKED

#

Thank you

zenith glacier
#

Because it have pop on and off

#

So seasonic..

muted patio
#

Fans go on the inside, screws on the outside, if that makes sense

#

Yes, Seasonic

silver meteor
#

Yeah it does

#

@muted patio like that?

muted patio
#

Yes

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Just make sure the arrows point the right way for airflow

#

SHould be stamped on the fan

silver meteor
#

Thanks

muted patio
#

Welcome!

silver meteor
#

This part is easy damn

sterile wave
#

Looks like those fans are facing the wrong way xd

polar holly
#

you have that backwars

silver meteor
#

Wait what

polar holly
#

fan hub should face forward

silver meteor
#

What?

zenith glacier
silver meteor
#

@polar holly what

polar holly
#

That is a very solid supply

zenith glacier
#

Yea lol

polar holly
#

turn it around and it will pull air throuhg the case

sterile wave
#

That fan will now blow air out form the case

#

As it is in the picture

silver meteor
#

Sorry for quality but like that

#

Facing that way

sterile wave
#

Yes

#

It will spin counter clockwise

silver meteor
#

That’s good?

sterile wave
#

And blow air out the back

silver meteor
#

That’s good or?

sterile wave
#

U can try it, blow onto that side and they should spin nicely

#

Yes it's good

silver meteor
#

I mount each fan like that

sterile wave
#

Yes

silver meteor
#

Thanks

#

@muted patio do you confirm

little osprey
#

for a r5 3600x would 3200 ram be good or should i stick with the 3600??

#

because i wanna buy everything in store tomorrow but they don’t seem to have 3600

silver meteor
#

3200 is fine

#

Since you can also overclock it

little osprey
#

would there be a decent difference though

sterile wave
#

Make sure it's not some dumb high latency

#

Try to find cl15 or 16

zenith glacier
#

Or

#

Not which one hmm

#

Anyone?

polar holly
#

i Run the second one personally its great

latent bronze
#

Check on Newegg as well to see if it is cheaper

zenith glacier
#

Okay

latent bronze
zenith glacier
#

My husband like top stuff

deep skiff
#

@zenith glacier idk, I’ve heard good things about the first one but both seem pretty good

zenith glacier
#

Man it’s not there on Newegg

#

Oh

#

What is PX

icy plume
#

yall

#

so i have a prebuilt to last me while i wait on shipping for my actual desktop, when it arrives, should i take the 8 gigs of ram from this and put it in the new one for a total of 24? (it's definitely not the same model, but its all 2666 mhz)

cursive wharf
#

@latent bronze Prime Gold isnt bad, but I'd get better if I were getting 1000w
@zenith glacier so youre looking for a 1000w PSU?

polar holly
#

yeah the ones she linked are good choices

cursive wharf
#

Good choices, but not always the best for the price

zenith glacier
#

Yes @cursive wharf

#

I went with prime of

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Px

cursive wharf
#

Decent. Would've went with better if I were doing 1000w tho

#

Fun fact, PSUs aren't as basic as just wattage and ratings. There is a lot more to PSUs than that

#

Corsair 1000RMi for $200 I would've gotten. Bit better and cheaper
Or Antec High Current Pro Platinum 1000w for $226. Better than both Plat PX and RMi.

cursive wharf
#

That Antec PSU I listed is one of the best PSUs you can buy tbh

spare swallow
#

@silver meteor how you know about the ram but dont know which way to put your fans, Merry Christmas

little osprey
#

is 3500x for aliexpress a bad idea

#

there cpus dont rlly seem to be fake

#

and they are 115 there

#

you’ll be waiting like a month for shipping probsbly

#

i know

#

im ok with that

polar holly
#

the issue is the rail setup on corsair isnt as good as a equaivalent model from seasonic

little osprey
#

wdym

zenith glacier
#

Ah

little osprey
#

@sterile wave they do actually have 3600 ram, but i only see cl18

#

is that normal for 3600 or should i try finding lower

sterile wave
#

If u want a full rundown

cursive wharf
#

CL18 is kinda meh

sterile wave
#

Watch this

cursive wharf
#

Even if 3600 having that high CL just kinda makes it pointless in 3600 vs decent 3200

sterile wave
#

A cl16 3600 would be perfect, but a CL16 3200 really wouldn't be far off

#

If theres nothin better than 3600 18, check if there 3200 16 or 15

little osprey
#

i can find 3200 16

#

when i go in tomorrow i’ll see if there’s any 3600 16

sterile wave
#

OK gl

#

Watch that video for different alternatives, it may interest you

little osprey
#

yeah i’ll make sure to watch once i get home

#

thanks

wispy wagon
#

what do yall think of this so far, it's just pieces im planning to buy gradually one by one

#

if any changes or suggestions should be made please say

oblique karma
#

What, no evga case?

warped moat
#

@wispy wagon do you plan to stream

faint steeple
#

a 3200 CL 16 kit and a 3600 CL 18 kit both have the same latency of exactly 10ns

#

so if the price is the same you might as well get the 3600 kit as you have the benefit now in bandwidth vs the 3200 kit

oblique karma
#

That’s 3600 cl16

#

For a steal

latent bronze
#

and don't mention prime cause you can see it say free shipping on the newegg one

little osprey
#

alright well i’m hoping to get everything in store tomorrow so i’ll probably just have to settle with the 17/18

#

but if they’re the same price, should i go 3200 16 or 3600 18???

manic nymph
#

theyre both the same effective speed so it really depends on the cpu

#

but if theyre both the same price and regardless of cpu id grab the 3600/18 and maybe you can tighten the timings a little

little osprey
#

okay because i’m also using a ryzen 5 3600x

manic nymph
#

yeah ryzen tends to favor faster ram and the higher speed of 3600 will have a more dramatic affect with tighter timings than the 3200

little osprey
#

i think the 3600/18 is cheaper as well, so i’ll probably end up getting that one

#

^^^ on sale

manic nymph
#

nice

lyric hound
#

Merry Christmas my dudes.

#

and dudettes.

little osprey
#

For plug and play best performance/effort on zen2 , 3600c(anything) will do you well. 3600 16 19 19 39 is fine, and that's a good deal it seems.

next merlin
#

Is the Corsair CX series of PSUs good or nah?

proud helm
#

yes one of the best

#

evga and corsair the best

#

well most popular

zenith glacier
#

well

#

my husband's psu just failed

#

Corsair HX1200

proud helm
#

how old is it?

wispy wagon
#

@warped moat I’m fairly new at pc specs, streaming would help if you or anybody could guide me

#

I been watching Linus tech tips and a ton of other similar YouTubers which got me to learn the basics of where everything goes and some minor terminology

lyric hound
#

@zenith glacier how do you know it failed or how did you pin point a psu?

#

@zenith glacier Corsair Power Supplies are pretty good, plus it's a platinum so it could of been a cap popped or the motherboard or GPU had a fault and tripped the power supply as well

wary tundra
#

I have $200 to upgrade my PC, I have a R5 3600, 5700xt, Asus b450 mb, h100i v2 plat ( 240mm ), 1 tb sunbow tc SSD, and deepcool rf 120mm fans. What should I upgrade?

little osprey
#

Damn

#

That doesn’t look like it needs an upgrade unless you have a stock cooler

wary tundra
#

No I have the h100i liquid cooler

little osprey
#

Is that corsair

wary tundra
#

Yep

little osprey
#

Oh I confused that with the h series of cases from NZXT

#

Well personally I think you should save the 200

#

Your rig is great

wary tundra
#

Oh my bad, I have the Lian li O11 dynamic

#

That's my case

little osprey
#

I think your rig is fine for now

#

I’d save if I were you

wary tundra
#

Well I have more than 200 I just but that amount aside just in case I feel like changing something; however, my fans are very loud while under load so I kinda want to upgrade them.

#

One sec I'm going to send the picture

little osprey
#

Woh

wary tundra
#

I turn off my gpu light and my fans sometimes

#

Too much light

little osprey
#

I’m doing a purple rig tomorrow

wary tundra
#

Nice, purple is a really good color.

#

This is how I keep it most of the time

little osprey
#

Sorry I have no idea how to help you as I don’t know the details and feel like the main components are fine

wary tundra
#

Your fine, thanks for the help!

#

I'm probably just going to switch out the fans

quartz cairn
#

PNY CS900, ADATA SU800, or Team L5 Lite 3D for a 240gb budget SSD?

wary tundra
#

I was going to get a pny SSD and I heard adata does make bad ones but I don't know much about team L5 lite ssds

#

@dry tinsel are you the tech God?

dry tinsel
#

ADATA SSDs are just fine

#

SU800 series are really good in fact

wary tundra
#

I don't know where I heard adata was bad

#

Someone just told me no when I asked if I should

dry tinsel
#

i recommend you try the SU800 if you want a 2.5" SSD

#

if you want M.2 then i'd suggest Sabrent Rocket (not Sabrent Q, don't get that white label for anything)

wary tundra
#

@quartz cairn that's your answer ^

dry tinsel
#

what

#

does your power supply not come with cables?

drifting jetty
#

These are extensions

#

So kind of

dry tinsel
#

oh

#

i'm not sure about extensions

drifting jetty
#

You would plug your existing PSU cables into these @wary tundra

dry tinsel
#

yeah those look good

#

you just can't plug directly into the power supply

wary tundra
#

Yeah I know

#

Someone told me I had to check if they're the same wattage but the wattage wasent listed

zenith glacier
#

@lyric hound The led, two of them was flashing, they are connected to psu, and rgb on gpu was off too. The monitor was not on so @muted patio suggested try different psu which is mine, and i did switched. With my psu, it works fine.

drifting jetty
#

@wary tundra wattage doesn't matter

#

The only thing that matters is voltage

#

Which is mostly controlled by the mobo

#

So long as you put the right cables on the right cables

#

It should be fine

tidal gorge
#

ok i think i'm ready to buy but first i just want to get a second opinion

drifting jetty
#

Mouse?

#

Also what's the use case?

#

Because if you're just gaming

#

I might go 3400G that way you have significantly better singlethreaded

tidal gorge
#

just gaming

#

already have a nice

drifting jetty
#

K cool

shut olive
#

I just finished building my first rig

drifting jetty
#

Yeah I would go 3400G but either are great processors tbh

#

Nice! @shut olive, how'd it go?

shut olive
#

It was a lot simpler to build than I thought it’d be

drifting jetty
#

Adult Legos as it were

shut olive
#

I would send a pic but my phone is bugging out

#

Yeah pretty much

#

Downloading boot up software now from my laptop

drifting jetty
#

Awesome!

warped moat
#

In two days my graphics card will arrive and I will finally be able to join pc masterrace

drifting jetty
#

Epic

#

Sure didn't stop me though

#

I played on an integrated R7

#

Not a modern R7

#

An FX CPU R7

#

A mobile FX R7

warped moat
#

Ive been on an A4-5300 for like 7 years

#

Can barely run Minecraft or roblox

cursive wharf
#

@tidal gorge Well few things to change in your build
Bad PSU
Get a 1650 Super for same price (it's better)
Spend a bit more on mobo for upgradability
Ram is a tiny bit pricy

#

Also keyboard is garbage for price

tidal gorge
#

any recommendations for ram

little osprey
#

So uh anyone know how to fix this?

#

Dont mind the mess lmfao

polar holly
#

do you have an idea what caused it

#

like what was happening prior

tidal gorge
#

look up the error code

little osprey
#

Nah, I just added my new motherboard and cpu, and it just is crashing my hdd

#

And I added all my old storage back now its freezing

#

I cant have my old ssd and hdd on the same pc, idk why

#

But it also cant run without it, so I'm in a weird predicament

polar holly
#

did you reset the order that they are booting into

little osprey
#

I cant even have them plugged in on boot

#

I plug them both in and they freeze

drifting jetty
#

After a certain amount of PC components replaced windows likes to pretend it's in a different PC

little osprey
#

Ah, I see

drifting jetty
#

I'm pretty sure you need to go through recovery if that's the case

little osprey
#

I cant though lmfao

#

I cant have both plugged in, and when I try one at a time, it just boots me into the hdd error screen

drifting jetty
#

Hmmmm

#

Do you have a back up perchance?

little osprey
#

I have 3 extra ssd's

#

None with windows tho

drifting jetty
#

So if you press f1?

little osprey
#

It shuts off my computer

#

Well, reboots to the same screen

drifting jetty
#

Hmm

#

Do you still have the windows installation CD/USB?

little osprey
#

I probably have the USB somewhere

#

I'm tossing the hdd for now

#

I'll recover it later

drifting jetty
#

Good luck

little osprey
#

Lmao thanks

drifting jetty
#

I can run you through a bit more troubleshooting later if ya'd like just @ me

little osprey
#

Idk if I have windows on this drive or not tho so I'm spook

drifting jetty
#

I would be if I didn't run Linux NYEHE

little osprey
#

Lmao yupp

drifting jetty
#

It's easy enough to make a new one if you can't find it

little osprey
#

Yeah

#

Well, it says I have windows on this ssd, but I doubt it

#

Ok idk if this is the USB working its magic or if I actually had windows on this ssd lmfao

#

Because I'm stuck on a screen with the blue windows logo there

#

Yeah, I think it froze lmao

drifting jetty
#

Oof

little osprey
#

Yup, both of those storage devices are broke

#

I think they shared windows? Like they both showed to have parts of windows

drifting jetty
#

Did you have anything like raid/unraid?

little osprey
#

I dont think I have it enabled

#

And my usb keeps freezing reeeee

#

Why is this so scuffed, I've never had anything like this even happen

drifting jetty
#

¯\༼ ಥ ‿ ಥ ༽

little osprey
#

I'm going to just keep trying the usb until it makes it

#

And what do you know

drifting jetty
#

Did it work?

little osprey
#

It froze when I started the install

#

So ima just let it go

#

And hope it fixes itself

drifting jetty
#

Best a luck to ya

little osprey
#

Well someone's had my issue, it's an i7 9700k issue

#

R e e

drifting jetty
#

Oof

#

Couldn'tve been the 50$ drive huh

#

Had to be the 300$ processor

little osprey
#

Yup

timid nacelle
#

Does anyone know if you can install a motherboard with rear and top fan installed

little osprey
#

Um you should be able to, it depends on the case

timid nacelle
#

Ok. Just wanted to make sure I should be able to before trying it and having to take it apart because I can’t

brittle ibex
#

Quick question for whoever wants to give me their advice. I just got a 1tb hard drive for my first pc build, I’m getting an SSD to put my operating system on and maybe a few games, do I go with a 250gb and save some money or should I just get 500gb and save myself the upgrade later down the line

#

I also still need a case, motherboard, and a power supply and I’m looking at $300 for all 4

polar holly
#

what cpu and gpu are you currently running

brittle ibex
#

I have a Ryzen 5 2600 and a xfx 570 8gb

#

I’m looking for at probably getting a 650 watt power supply, either an MSI X470 motherboard or a b450 tomahawk

#

And I really want the Corsair carbide spec 04 for the case

#

I’m also not sure if I should get additional LEDs and cable extenders but that’s just if I have extra money in the budget

eager dew
#

i Just got the ryzen 7 amd 2700z and corsair vengence ram

#

x*

brittle ibex
#

Should I go with the 500gb SSD or cheap out and get a 250 for now

eager dew
#

500gb

#

in my opinion

little osprey
#

250 for now

brittle ibex
#

Alright. Also I need a case recommendation. I’m trying to go for something red to fit my aesthetic I’m going for but all of the spec 04’s I’m seeing online are sold out or a lot more expensive

little osprey
#

Having games on a boot drive just slows it down

brittle ibex
#

I might do the 250 and use the extra money on cable extenders

little osprey
#

Also if you want a good ssd deal, get a 860 evo 1 terabyte they are %50 off

#

On amazon that is

prime spear
#

yo

#

@muted patio

#

im feeling really bad about my purchase

#

i was fighting with my friends the other day

#

about between the 5700xt and 2060 super for streaming and gaming at high refreshrates during professional play

polar holly
prime spear
#

and i purchased the rtx 2060 super and now feel like im being harrased for buying a certain card

polar holly
#

Then thats not a true friend if he is harrasing you for it

warped moat
#

Tell your friend to chill

muted patio
#

Well, your friends are jerks. We proved amds hardware encoding is garbage. Sorry they are treating you that way over a simple hardware decision.

polar holly
#

Like its your stuff whats it matter to them what it is

brittle ibex
#

@polar holly I think I’m gonna use that SSD and the power supply but I just saw the Spec 05 is only $65 rn and I already got 3 red LED fans, thank you

polar holly
#

alright that works buy what you need i just put fans becasue case only comes with one

prime spear
#

@muted patio can i show the screen shots?

muted patio
#

Ugh

brittle ibex
#

Yeah lol I noticed that, it’s such a clean looking case too but I think the Spec 5 might be an upgrade honestly, and it fits in my price range just enough so that I can buy the cable extenders still

little osprey
#

Comparing which encoders?

muted patio
#

Ignorance is strong. It's not about performance

#

It's about wualityt

#

Amds hardware encoder vs nvenc. Amds is sub par quality wise.

little osprey
#

When you're single PC streaming, having the option to NVENC encode is a very nice performance oriented option.

polar holly
#

It was about the use of streaming on a 2600x and either a 2060super or a 5700xt with minmal performace penalty

muted patio
#

Yeah his friends are calling him stupid for going nvidia

little osprey
#

I thought it's pretty common knowlege that if you like single pc streaming, the $100 premium on say - a 2070 super vs 5700xt is worth considering for the NVENC support and all. It's certainly not impossible to single pc stream x264 - but even on a 3900x, good settings, some games won't play nice.

muted patio
#

This is simple. You do you. If your friends are going off like this over a gpu decision I would just remove myself from the situation.

little osprey
#

I thought it'd be over pascal vs turing or something lol.

prime spear
#

i told them i bought the card already

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and they told me to buy a card that wouldnt fit in my case

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i told them the best card that would fit in my case was the one @muted patio showed me

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this one takes 2.5 slots

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the other one takes 3 and more with the plastic covering

muted patio
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Evga is king

prime spear
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i aggree

muted patio
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2060 super xc or something

prime spear
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and their still barating me for going evga

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they all hate evga

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they said anything but evga

little osprey
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@ (つ◕౪◕)つ ya - TL;DR the Jan 2019 OBS 23.0 update changed the game. Performance optimization for both pascal/turing + quality improvement for turing iirc.

muted patio
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They are uneducated. Nothing more or less.

polar holly
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Fan boys will always have ignorance is bliss

prime spear
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@muted patio in a month ill be back to tell you how much money i make off fortnite

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compared to 6 months of being on a 1050ti and a 960

little osprey
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I'm a huge EVGA fanboy - but I think I make that transparent haha.

prime spear
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crazy how 160 stuttering can change how good someone play

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compared to 165 non stutering

muted patio
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Dropped frames are bad

polar holly
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I try and not fan over one to another but some are hard not to reccomend

little osprey
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ya, you're going to want to cap your framerate

prime spear
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i do on my 960

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but it just cant reach 165 and hold it during hard times

polar holly
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but some may in this chat also

little osprey
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Oh thanks

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Didn’t realize that was a thing

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I’m in the wrong chat anyways lol I thought I was in general or a tech chat

terse kraken
muted patio
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Spreadsheet?

prime spear
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@muted patio my friend just sent me a vid of linus saying which graphics card is better

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and linus's vid only talks about straight performace -_-

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doesnt include streaming or cpus

muted patio
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Right. Seriously man. They're toxic. Take a break from them. This is honestly a bit ridiculous.

prime spear
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yea

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it kinda hurts

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cause now his friend that i dont even know

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who doesnt even own an rtx card -_-

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is telling me not to get it

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hes the one who recommended me the oversized card

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xD

muted patio
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Make yourself invisible on the channel

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And just go somewhere else for a while.

prime spear
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how to do it on one specific channel?

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or just go invisisble on everythign

muted patio
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Just on everything

prime spear
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done lol

muted patio
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Now don't reply

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Which is the hard part lol

prime spear
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yea

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xD

quartz cairn
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Does 2 SSDs really help with performance?

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Like having windows on one and everything else on the other?

drifting jetty
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I've never heard of that but it's possible

muted patio
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It is indeed fast

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Separate drives or not.

dry tinsel
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can also RAID0 them

wispy wagon
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Evga is arguably the best brand

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I’m fairly new to building pc’s tho

brisk fiber
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I need some help upgrading my pc. Is this the right channel for that?

wispy wagon
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Yea just post whatever your looking for, it’s a matter of the right person responding to you though

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Try mentioning somebody with a techie role and ask if they got time

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@brisk fiber

brisk fiber
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Thank you

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@dry tinsel If you have the time, could you help me with some questions I have about upgrading my pc?

polar holly
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What questions do you have I may be able to help

brisk fiber
polar holly
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Pcpartpicker would not have a oem parts. But the main restrictions for that will be( size, power connections, length)

brisk fiber
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So just buying a bigger case to accommodate the graphics card might not be enough?

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This is my first time trying to modify a pc, so sorry if I'm uninformed. u_u;