building-and-recc-chat

[eager chasm]

Yes

[dark hearth]

b450 is like low-mid tier

xD

[cursive wharf]

For $100 get Corsair RM 650w

[vivid atlas]

Ok thanks

[cursive wharf]

@vivid atlas both the same

gaming plus sucks more due to less features tho

like BIOS flash back

[dark hearth]

corsair is like 120 though

[cursive wharf]

750w is 120

[silver meteor]

Nah for 100 go 20 dollars more and get an X

Rmx*

[dark hearth]

:OOOOOO

[cursive wharf]

650w is 100

[eager chasm]

don't need bios flash back if you do it right the first time

[dark hearth]

Really?

I can't find any link for it at 100

[silver meteor]

For $20 more get an RMX, it’s a lot better

[dark hearth]

Oof

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rm-series-rm650-cp-9020194-na-650w/p/N82E16817139101

This?

[silver meteor]

Thats a regular RM

[dark hearth]

@silver meteor I think the issue was, his was a 80+ bronze

at 60 bucks

[silver meteor]

That’s not terrible

[dark hearth]

spending 40 bucks more is already pushing it

[cursive wharf]

new RM and RMx are basically the same

[dark hearth]

80+ with a garbage company apparently xD

[silver meteor]

@cursive wharf yes, but RMX is more reliable

[eager chasm]

I use a Asrock X470 Master SLI/AC , it's decently feature packed, with the things I care about atleast

[cursive wharf]

not really

[dark hearth]

I'm actually pretty sad rn

[silver meteor]

You guys realize the one thing not to skimp on is the PSU. Really. Don’t do it.

[dark hearth]

My friend got a x570 prime, a 1 tb samsung ssd, and a ryzen 5 3600x for 315 dollars

LOL

[eager chasm]

I skimped on my PSU, no problems so far, it's been about a year

[silver meteor]

@cursive wharf from my research, the RMX rarely decreases a PC’s longevity but the RM can. They’re basically the same except the RMX has higher quality coils and capacitors

@eager chasm how did you skimp

[dark hearth]

I don't think i skimped

EVGA is pretty reliable imo

[silver meteor]

They’re fine

[dark hearth]

And it's been pretty reliable so far

[eager chasm]

Rosewill Photon 750W gold, on sale

[silver meteor]

Lol that’s not a huge risk

I returned my RM650 for a RM750x

Just because

[cursive wharf]

750w photon isnt amazing. Keep it at 650w or so

[dark hearth]

why is it worse as it gets higher?

LOL

[silver meteor]

It’s not usually

[dark hearth]

I'm still pretty new to building

[cursive wharf]

technically the same, but photon is a mid tier

dont want mid tier in a high end system

[still roost]

OS Elmo#6969 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dark hearth]

LMAO

[vivid atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[viral ore]

oof

[dark hearth]

Oof

[silver meteor]

I returned my RM650 for a RM750x, probably not worth it but FULLSEND

[dark hearth]

I didn't want to spend too much on my PC

Still was like 800 ;-;

[silver meteor]

@vivid atlas best list I’ve seen

[vivid atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zrPTMc

[eager chasm]

I skimped on my sister's PSU more, a 450W EVGA non-mod

[viral ore]

@vivid atlas thats the wrong pcpp link

[dark hearth]

Isa spicy meataball

@vivid atlas

[viral ore]

o there

[vivid atlas]

😂

[silver meteor]

Not bad for a budget build Zilk

[dark hearth]

No longer a spicy meatballa

[silver meteor]

Maybe downgrade to a 580 to upgrade your CPU

[viral ore]

get a b450 motherboard

[dark hearth]

^

580's work fine

[silver meteor]

Yep

[dark hearth]

My red devil 580 is a beaut

[silver meteor]

And the 3600 is a lot better

[dark hearth]

It runs league of legends at like 280 fps with my setup

[silver meteor]

New architecture

[dark hearth]

^

[vivid atlas]

What about a b450 tomahawk

[silver meteor]

That’s fine

Too

[vivid atlas]

Aight

[eager chasm]

My league of legends is like 400-600 FPS

[silver meteor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/38PWcq
Final Final build, + x5 Noctua fans.

That’s my list

[dark hearth]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dD4fNQ This is mine, just change my PSU to evga and my ram to viper gaming patriot ddr4 3600

[viral ore]

dont get a 3600 on a 700 dollar budget

[dark hearth]

You spicy boyo

x570 and a 380

[viral ore]

just get the cheapest b450 motherboard you can find and a 2600

[silver meteor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/38PWcq
Final Final build, + x5 Noctua fans.

[viral ore]

if you arent overclocking, anything past that is unnecessary

[silver meteor]

OOP double post

[dark hearth]

I still feel like the 2700 is worth paying like 15 dollars more for

LOL

[eager chasm]

Verge: yea my League of Legends runs at 60FPS, but that's cause uncapped it, I prefer to play like that

[dark hearth]

Yeah, my uncapped is 240+ but i play it capped at 60

[silver meteor]

2700 is worse than 3600 for the fact that the 3600 has their new architecture

[viral ore]

if hes getting an rx580, upgrading the cpu is useless

[silver meteor]

@viral ore that’s not necessarily true

[dark hearth]

no no, @silver meteor 2600 < 2700 no?

[silver meteor]

It depends on his use

[eager chasm]

Why cap league of legends?

[dark hearth]

His old one was a ryzen 5 2600

His new one is a ryzen 7 2700x

[silver meteor]

@dark hearth I’m talking about 3600, obviously the 2700 is better than 2600

[dark hearth]

Oh yeah

[silver meteor]

I’m getting a 3800x

[dark hearth]

DansGame

[viral ore]

useless for gaming, mostly

[silver meteor]

@viral ore some games are CPU intensive

[dark hearth]

he's using it for gaming xD

[viral ore]

the job of the cpu in gaming is to keep the gpu fed

[dark hearth]

So i recommended him to pay slightly more like 20 bucks more to upgrade the CPU

[silver meteor]

@viral ore can you rate this build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/38PWcq
Final Final build, + x5 Noctua fans.

[viral ore]

if the cpu is doing its job, then theres no reason to upgrade

6c/12t is fine

[silver meteor]

RM PSU vs RMX PSU? I say RMX

[viral ore]

@silver meteor its good enough

[silver meteor]

True

[eager chasm]

@viral ore that depends on the game

[silver meteor]

What is good enough @viral ore

The build

[eager chasm]

Some games are more logic intensive

[viral ore]

@silver meteor the build you linked

[silver meteor]

Good enough meaning?

Idk what that means

[eager chasm]

The CPUs job isn't ONLY keeping the GPU fed

[viral ore]

six cores and 12 threads will handle most games fine

[silver meteor]

Yeah

It will

RM VS RMX

Fight

Lol

[viral ore]

it means your pc is fine, i cant see any issues with it, also im not a PSU expert like @cursive wharf

[silver meteor]

Oh oki

[eager chasm]

I wasn't talking about the cores, I was commenting on the CPU usage

[dark hearth]

Wait, where's the OP

Where'd he go

LOL

[silver meteor]

CPU is like the brain of the PC, far as I can tell brain doesn’t feed

[dark hearth]

HE wanted advice on his PC

[viral ore]

in games

[silver meteor]

Putting an Adjective in front of Fish and 3 numbers after it as your name also guarantees you 300+ FPS on any game

[eager chasm]

In a game like Stellaris the CPU is usually the choke point cause the game engine is Clogged with too much logic in the late game

[dark hearth]

Can i be CoolFish420?

[viral ore]

ok, so when a PC runs a piece of software, such as a video game, it utilizes the GPU to render the graphics, if the GPU is bottlenecked from a CPU that is unable to perform its part of the tasks effectively to keep up with the rate at which the gpu is able to render frames, the gpu isnt well "fed" data by the cpu

sorry if that was confusing

[dark hearth]

nope

That helped me understand it

ty

[viral ore]

i didnt mean literally feed lol

[silver meteor]

@viral ore um, I looked at recent benchmarks with a 2080ti and an i3 vs a 2080ti and an i9, and the difference in gaming was 0-5 FPS, with the i3 occasionally winning, which directly contradicts your point.

[viral ore]

benchmarks in

what?

[silver meteor]

Multiple games

Some graphic intensive, some only slightly

[dark hearth]

Links

pls

[viral ore]

rendering uses exactly one core in almost every game

[silver meteor]

I’ll find links

[viral ore]

all other cores do other things

[vivid atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cpRxgJ better ?

[viral ore]

for the game

[silver meteor]

https://youtu.be/BoyW15FHKgA

@vivid atlas it’s great but you don’t need an NVME

[viral ore]

that doesnt disprove anything i said

[eager chasm]

Rendering is 1 core in DX11, multicore rendering and polishing is more common in newer games

[silver meteor]

Ah okay

My bad

@viral ore you’re right

[viral ore]

it shows that those games dont utilize more than 4 cores effectively

[silver meteor]

Yep

[vivid atlas]

Alright thanks

[viral ore]

@vivid atlas that build should be just fine

[dark hearth]

yeahhh

That build is like 600 if you really think about it

monitor doesn't count xD

[viral ore]

although, you could use a 1660 for the gpu

the 580 is kinda older tbh

[dark hearth]

is 1660 better than the 590?

They seem to pretty equal

pricewise and performance wise no?>

[viral ore]

he stepped it back to a 580

[dark hearth]

😮

When did this happen

He did LOL

I think we confuse him with tons of info

[viral ore]

yeaaaahhhhhh

[dark hearth]

@vivid atlas Okay, don't change anything but make the videocard a 1660 LOL

is 550w enough?

I always recommended 650 at least

Idk tho

[viral ore]

550w is good enough

[eager chasm]

550 is enough

[jaunty karma]

watch my stream ;D

[eager chasm]

I tend to say buy a higher wattage for upgrades though

[jaunty karma]

jk

so my pc build is great

[eager chasm]

Grats

[jaunty karma]

it can handle ultra graphics on

with decent fps

[vivid atlas]

1660 is considerably pricier then the 580 though

[eager chasm]

590 is about the same performance as a 1660 for about $30 less, 580 is a bit lower on the performance rung

[dark hearth]

https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-11265-05-20G-Backplate-Graphics-Graphic/dp/B06ZZ6FMF8/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=Radeon+RX+590&qid=1576738080&sr=8-7

https://www.amazon.com/XFX-RX-590P8DFD6-Radeon-1580MHz-Graphic/dp/B07JQDKNXS/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Radeon+RX+590&qid=1576738080&sr=8-2

Some of the cheaper rx590s i found

on amazon anyways

Could always cross reference with other sites to see which are cheaper

[viral ore]

theres a 1660 on newegg for 209 rn

[dark hearth]

You should've bought parts like a few weeks ago during black friday

Everything was so cheappp

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gtx-1660-gtx-1660-ventus-xs-6g-oc/p/N82E16814137400

[vivid atlas]

Will a 580 8GB do the job to play at 100FPS High settings at 1080P for FPS games like SIEGE, CSGO...

[viral ore]

yep

[dark hearth]

yep

cause i do that rn

LOL

[viral ore]

an rx 470 got me like 120 fps on ultra in siege

[dark hearth]

Honestly it's more of a

I don't want ro replace my parts

So i get the best bang for my buck

So i don't replace in less than 3 years

[viral ore]

this is my hobby

so im always upgrading

[dark hearth]

Same....

[viral ore]

and building new systems

[dark hearth]

i just bought new ram and put it in ;-;

But im a poor college student

idk why i do this

[vivid atlas]

I definitely don’t want to upgrade within 3 years after buying

[viral ore]

also same

[vivid atlas]

I want to stick with what I have for as long as possible

[viral ore]

then get the 1660

[dark hearth]

^

[viral ore]

pay a little more now

[dark hearth]

Just pay 30 dollars more

and get the 1660

If not the 1660, at least the 590

[viral ore]

it really does perform like 30 dolars extra

[vivid atlas]

Yep..

[dark hearth]

I'd say it performs more like 50+ dollars extra

[viral ore]

it is def worth it, even now

[vivid atlas]

Alright

I’ll do that

I guess 1660 it is

[eager chasm]

@midnight river what are you even asking in build pics? 🤔

That question makes no sense

[jaunty karma]

Whoops wrong chat

[eager chasm]

@jaunty karma glad you like your new computer :)

What you been playing on it?

[jaunty karma]

see the left part of the pc

[eager chasm]

Can't see it, I'm on mobile and it's burry

[eager chasm]

Nice

;) you could also try Star Craft 2, the multiplayer is free, and I think the first campaign is also free now

[dry tinsel]

yes, wings of liberty is free

the protoss and zerg campaigns are not

what annoys me with SC2 is i can't just buy the whole game

i have to nickel and dime them with microtransactions

no sorry give me all campaigns and all multiplayer characters for $50 or so, then we'll talk

it's not really p2w because you still would need to level your characters

everyone in the 1v1 rotation at least is typically holding level50 characters

but #gaming

[jaunty karma]

im more of an fps player

[tardy olive]

Hi

someome help me in the overclocking section

my boot is not working

im gettjng peeeeddddd off

[chilly scaffold]

hello guys. what do you think of this build? any suggestions for upgrades? graphics card? i want to make this my gaming computer and buy another one to use mainly for work

thanks in advance for your help

[sudden turret]

yeah update your GPU

everything else looks fine

[chilly scaffold]

any suggestions for gpu?

[tardy olive]

Nothing toooo special

[sudden turret]

what do you game?

[chilly scaffold]

mainly csgo, but recently have been playing rainbow six, pubg, cod

but my main game is csgo

[sudden turret]

https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-gtx-1660-zt-t16600k-10m/p/N82E16814500480?Description=1660 super&cm_re=1660_super-_-14-500-480-_-Product

[chilly scaffold]

thanks

thats good enough?

[latent bronze]

For CS GO he could use a 1650S instead

[chilly scaffold]

yea but i also want to be able to play other games here and there

[latent bronze]

@chilly scaffold this is just a rough idea what it can do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5hNTMb89oE

[sudden turret]

1660s is a good matchup.

[compact latch]

The 1650 super is a great but

Buy

[latent bronze]

For that chart reduce the frames by at least 5 for you cause 6700K is far different from a 8600K

[chilly scaffold]

i c i c

thanks for your suggestions guys

i think i will go for the 1660

ecks you think the 6700k is good enough or do i need to upgrade?

[latent bronze]

it will be good enough until the 10th gens i know comes out

[chilly scaffold]

when do they come out

[latent bronze]

next year

2020

[chilly scaffold]

ty

[latent bronze]

before i go @chilly scaffold if your board is able to overclock you can make that CPU last a few more years as well

[daring axle]

@eager chasm west europe

[eager chasm]

What?

Oh from what I asked yesterday

[silver meteor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/38PWcq
that’s a good build right? Low settings 1080p recording x264 could I run 180 FPS on Fortnite

[shut rampart]

Is it my tv or the pc because when I move it is geting FPS drops

[little osprey]

Run a userbenchmark and post the link

[shut rampart]

Ok

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/22836227

@little osprey

[little osprey]

Seems fine - but could use a quick tune up -
I compared the raw scores to the card averages and they're not actually as low as the percentile may lead you to think, it's just got a low SD.

Ditto for CPU, ssd could maybe benefit from driver fix, firmate update, dfrgui.exe , etc

[candid sluice]

Hi, Looking to build a PC seems Fry's No longer does Computers. I got a recommendation on Parts.

[shut rampart]

so its not the pc fault?

[candid sluice]

X570 Motherboard , AMD Ryzen 5 3600X, DDR4 RAM, GTX 1660Ti was recommended. Thoughts?

[shut rampart]

if I were to upgrade which part would it be first?

[little osprey]

oh, I just realized you have the same ram I do - the team pro dark's? the 14 14 14 31 cl2 kit ?

[shut rampart]

who me?

[little osprey]

Ram and GPU are fantastic - I'd pair them with a x570 /3600 cheap - through 3900x-x560 $325 ish level board. Depend son your preferences, budget etc

Personally, I like intel, I'd go z390 aorus master /9900kf $620 total on sale - or more reasonably the z390 aorus elite /9xxxk - it really varies on sale

[candid sluice]

Why Intel ? What is the difference?

[little osprey]

TL;DR - my preference .
Objectively - AMD's ryzen lineup, especially the 3600 and its recent price drops bring competitoin in some price brackets that intel hasn't seen since core2 or earlier.

[polar holly]

The major noticeable differences are clock speeds, per core performance, and if you can use it quick sync

[candid sluice]

Which will have the better Clock Speed?

[polar holly]

intel usually will

[candid sluice]

k, ty

So z390 aorus master is the better choice

[little osprey]

The z390 aorus baster is a $220-$280 mobo bought new, works well with 9900k and any OC you're likely to throw at it, can do 3600 16 16 16 38 4x8 b-die no probs

[candid sluice]

k

[little osprey]

Other users run a bit higher like 4133 c18 18 18 42 etc - depends

[polar holly]

the answer is it depends greatly on what you are using the computer for as to which side you should go

[candid sluice]

Wow Currenlty

Just a old Gamer

Pantheon when it comes out

[polar holly]

if you plan only on gaming then intel is the better option. But if you are content creation the AMD will be better for you.

[candid sluice]

K,, ty

[little osprey]

This is one of my go-to sources for content creation related bencharks FG

https://www.pugetsystems.com/all_news.php

[silver meteor]

Hey guys

I need help

[viral ore]

need help with what

[silver meteor]

This

So I mainly play Fortnite, and I play it competitively. I want a 420-439 dollar GPU and I’m wondering: 2060 vs 5700xt? It’s an NVIDIA optimized game

[viral ore]

hmm, well the 5700xt is just the better card

im not sure how much the whole optimization will actually affect it

[silver meteor]

Alright

I watched some benchmarks but idk

[viral ore]

im sure there are comparisons on youtube

[silver meteor]

Yeah there are

And they usually say they’re either neck and neck or the 2060S is better

[viral ore]

for competitive play, high framerate isnt as important as constant framerate

what were the 1% lows

and .1% lows

[silver meteor]

I’ll go see

They’re virtually the same

[viral ore]

i se

see

get the 5700xt then

it will perform better than the 2060s in most instances anyway

[silver meteor]

Two people say get 2060S

Oh ok

Thanks

Two Votes vs One, I’ll wait for more votes

[viral ore]

also, the 2060s is cheaper

[silver meteor]

Oh it is

Show me

[viral ore]

so if you dont wanna spend too much

o crap

i dont remember them being 400

[silver meteor]

How much less is it

[viral ore]

ok, so i guess the price diference isnt as big as it was

o my goodness

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-5700-xt-rx-5700-xt-challenger-d-8g-oc/p/N82E16814930020?Description=5700xt&cm_re=5700xt-_-14-930-020-_-Product

its cheaper than i remember

tf is hapening

[silver meteor]

That’s a bad version of it

But

[viral ore]

i remember the 2060s being like a little over 300

there are no bad versions of cards

just because its cheapest

there are some instances where they have production issues

but that asrock card is just fine, especially for the price

[silver meteor]

I have a q

@viral ore has

[candid sluice]

How does this MB Look? https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145110?Item=9SIA24G9121781

[muted patio]

5700XT should be 2070 level of performance, not 2060, even super. Check hardware Unboxed video for a 41 game benchmark

[silver meteor]

@muted patio that video showed that the 2060S does better in fn

But not by an insanely substantial rate

[muted patio]

Is Fortnite ALL you play?

[silver meteor]

Nope, occasionally Overwatch

My main concern is, how will I record without NVENC?

[muted patio]

3800X

[silver meteor]

x264?

Is that gonna give me skips or

[muted patio]

It shouldn't

You have 16 cores to play with

[silver meteor]

Oh aight

Bet

[muted patio]

I doubt Fortnight and Overwatch will use more than 8

[cursive wharf]

16 threads**

not cores

[silver meteor]

Then why is NVENC even better lmao

[little osprey]

@silver meteor I have a ryzen 5 3500x and a 1660 ti and I run fortnite on epic settings and hold 144 fps

you'll be right

[silver meteor]

Ok

Bet

But

Why is NVENC even better

[muted patio]

If you have a lower end CPU, it will offload the processing for the x264 to the GPU

and not impact performance

with a 3800x I don't see that as being needed

[silver meteor]

Ah I see

Yep, I’ll probably be just fine

Thanks

For the help

[muted patio]

YW

[little osprey]

Dual intel LAN is so nice. I'm salty my GB has a realtek 2nd port.

[hybrid crest]

yo is this a good build

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-3700x-16gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-2tb-hdd-240gb-ssd-black/6362428.p?skuId=6362428

i know the parts are pretty good

[stoic island]

Good build? depends on specific stuff, price is okay I guess

240gb ssd seems like too little for me

But I also have like 400gb or so worth of games

[sudden turret]

3700x and a 5700xt

solid build

[stoic island]

box, I'm not too familar with pricing, but 5700xt is usually 400, 3700x 300, so what do you think of pricing?

[sudden turret]

for a prebuilt, it soudns about right

the XT might struggle a bit in the hi temp dept though

cause reference blower.

[deep skiff]

just undervolt+oc

https://youtu.be/IrKUZoEzAfY

[hybrid crest]

oh ok

thx

[sharp plaza]

is this a good mother board

https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B450M-Promontory-CrossFireX-Motherboard/dp/B07MV9BMNY

[muted patio]

That depends

What processor?

[sharp plaza]

ryzen 3 2200g

[jaunty nacelle]

budget build

[muted patio]

Yeah, if you're going integrated that will work.

The other ones I just looked at were all MATC

MATX*

[sharp plaza]

so that motherboard is good for it

[muted patio]

I'd say so, ya

[little osprey]

anyone want to help me

Im building PC and everything is plugged in and I can turn power on and it turns on but it doesnt boot

there a way to check if a part is broken?

[stoic island]

Check cables first

It's usually misplaced cables

[little osprey]

yeah I did

[stoic island]

Have you tested your video cable (HTMI/DP)

[little osprey]

yes

the mouse light doesnt turn on either so im pretty sure its not the video

[old charm]

are roms/emulators safe to download?

[rough loom]

usually yea

[eager chasm]

emulators are legal to download and use, for ROMs to be legal you need to own the game and turn it into a ROM yourself

do not talk about downloading roms here as not only is against this discord's rules, it's against the discord TOS and you can get your account deactivated

[little osprey]

Alright Im back here

So I am looking to build a really small pc i think the term was ATX or ITX Spending 600 to 700 only playing csgo

I would to like to try to use this case CYBERPOWERPC Syber SCCW100 White Mini ITX Gaming Case

[keen steeple]

Ryzen 5 3600 and ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING good combo?

[eager chasm]

Yes those will work fine together

Just make sure the board says that it's Ryzen 3rd gen or 3000 ready

[dry tinsel]

looks good to go

i find it weird the 3000 ready logo is not in Polish while everything else is

[elfin stone]

Isn’t the x470 and x570 3000 ready whereas the b450 is 2000 ready but can have 3000 series cpu by upgrading the bios

[dry tinsel]

Hydro some of the boards come with upgraded BIOS

they will have a little sign like that saying they're 3000 ready

[silver meteor]

Should I get a 2060S instead of 5700xt since Fortnite prefers NVIDIA and since it’s also capable of NVENC

[vivid atlas]

Are there any PC parts whose prices will not go down in 2020?

[sterile wave]

I think psu's are unlikely to drop

[old charm]

can i just plug my ethernet right into the lan port or do I have to do something special?

my dad wants to know before he starts re-wiring stuff

[sudden turret]

what do you mean?

[old charm]

he is wondering if I need some sort of I think he said panel or something to get the internet to work

but he admitted his knowlege is kinda outdated but he wanted me to make sure

but I don't even know

[muted patio]

Should go from the router/modem to the ethernet port. SImple as that

[old charm]

okay, that's what I was hoping

[muted patio]

Just make sure your Ethernet drivers are installed

They should be if you're on WIndows 10

[old charm]

yeah i think the guy did all my drivers for me

and windows 10

AND my bios

[muted patio]

Plug and play then. Are you on WiFi currently?

[dry tinsel]

i dream of having a house where i can put my modem and router in a little cabinet

and put ethernet jacks everywhere

[viral ore]

^

[muted patio]

I will say my AC1200 WiFi has been fantastic

[latent bronze]

@final knot

[final knot]

mines the deepcool matrexx 70 3f

i didn't get that meshify because of top mount psu

[latent bronze]

I don't bother with deepcool cases anymore just cause they're a pain to clean

[little osprey]

So I want to do a ITX build because I dont have much space i was thinking something like 1660ti w/ i5 76k or something like that

any ideas also I have no clue what would be a good itx case

[viral ore]

a good itx case can be pricy

what be thou budget

[little osprey]

1000 or so

[viral ore]

oh ok youre fine then

what do you think of the fractal design node 202?

go google image it

my internet is being bad

[little osprey]

it looks good its slick asf

[viral ore]

would you like something thin like that?

where the gpu is paralell with the motherboard

theres another one like that by thermaltake

idr what its called

[little osprey]

i have no clue how to install a gpu like that

[viral ore]

thats just how the case is laid out

[little osprey]

would you just need bridge it too the motherboard

[viral ore]

with the gpu on its side

the case comes with all that

[little osprey]

oh okay

I wouldnt mind that

so what cpu fans would even work with that would water cooling even be a option?

[viral ore]

the thermaltake core g3 is another one

there are low profile cpu fans

they work fine

watercooling isnt really an option in an itx formfactor for an inexperienced builder

[little osprey]

okay, so G3 or Fractal 202

ah okay

[viral ore]

yeah, there are many others

[little osprey]

G3 looks nice it looks a little bit bigger too

[viral ore]

you can pretty much go on google images and type in mini itx case

and look for one you like

[little osprey]

yeah I think im going to go with the G3

[viral ore]

thats a good one, because it also supprts motherboards larger than itx, which brings the cost down

[little osprey]

is there a better cpu then the i5 76k thats i7 and about the same cost?

btw I am planning to just do light work on it and lots of csgo I need to hold more then 240 frames at all times since I want to run my monitor at 240hz

[viral ore]

the 7600k is only 4c/4t

the i3 9350kf is better than that

[little osprey]

Really?

[viral ore]

lmao yeah

actually, that i3 is a great processor

[little osprey]

okay so that with a 1660

[viral ore]

well, it depends on how many cores you need first

[little osprey]

Well im might stream in the future but if i have to upgrade down the road that is cool

[viral ore]

can you think of any specific programs you will be using?

like blender etc

photoshop?

[little osprey]

Streamlabs OBS, CSGO, Minecraft, Photoshop and maybe AE

[viral ore]

i think a 6 core processor would be better suited

[little osprey]

ok

[viral ore]

would you consider AMD, or would you prefer to stick with intel

[little osprey]

Why not lol

[viral ore]

no reason not to

the R5 3600 is a phenomenal 6c/12t cpu

and its like 200

[little osprey]

isnt that cheaper then the i5 76k lol

[viral ore]

yeah, and its way more powerful

plus, the motherboards are not as expensive

[stoic island]

Dem b450 boards are neat

[little osprey]

okay

so 1660ti would run better then a 1080ti?

[viral ore]

b450 is like the go to board for ryzen

[little osprey]

okay

[viral ore]

uhh, no

the 1080ti still destroys that card

the 1080ti is more like a 2070 super

[little osprey]

damn so 1660 would maybe be a 1070

[stoic island]

Yes

1080ti is more like 2080 imo

[viral ore]

yeah, thats sounds about right

[little osprey]

If i am running csgo I sould be fine

[stoic island]

Without ray tracing

[viral ore]

yeah, csgo isnt hard to run

[little osprey]

alright

so 1660ti with r5 3600

[stoic island]

Csgo is harder on the CPU than the GPU

[viral ore]

honestly, with 1000, you probably should have the budget for a 2060 super

[stoic island]

5700 non xt maybe?

[viral ore]

yeah

actually, that would be better

[stoic island]

Idk the budget well

[viral ore]

BUT he is considering streaming

[stoic island]

Ah didnt see that

[viral ore]

so maybe nvidia is still the better choice?

[stoic island]

I mean the CPU should be able to handle it

[little osprey]

btw pcpartpicker is telling me the motherboards wont fit

even the itx ones

[viral ore]

ignore that warning

[stoic island]

If it talks of bios update

Ignore it

[little osprey]

ok

[stoic island]

Because basically all new b450 boards have bios that fit 3rd gen

Unless you buy used or refurb

[viral ore]

the Core G3 will fit ATX motherboards

so any motherboard will do

[little osprey]

so memory, 16 gbs of 3200 should be fine?

16 is a lot ik but doesnt hurt

[stoic island]

See if you can get good timing

Heck no 16gb is standard

I have 32gb and thats not a lot around here

[little osprey]

really lol

so put in 256?

lol

[viral ore]

16gb at 3600 with CL of 18 or less is ideal

[stoic island]

^
But if you can get a good cheap 3200mhz cl16 or cl14, go for it

[muted patio]

CL16 is the happy medium

[viral ore]

well, the FLCK will synch at a 1:1 ratio with the ram clock

so 3600 is ideal

[muted patio]

Yep

[viral ore]

regardless of latency

[stoic island]

Ye

[little osprey]

power supply? im guessing gold semi would work?

like 600w or 650w

[stoic island]

Efficiency doesn't matter that much

[viral ore]

yeah, we have some power supply nuts here

[stoic island]

You don't have to buy just based off of efficiency ratings

I have been told a few things bout PSUs but I don't really know too much

[viral ore]

efficiency and branding are good enough factors for the average buyer to go off of

[stoic island]

Lemme find the PSU tier list I look at

[little osprey]

so what is a good low profile cpu coller

[muted patio]

RGB kit

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232728?item=N82E16820232728&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-memory+(desktop+memory)-_-N82E16820232728&gclid=CjwKCAiA__HvBRACEiwAbViuU5JhOagpil4KZGMcMh8_IFvNlwabhodn6LqmsJj2qNiH1jPdZGrUcRoCYP8QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[stoic island]

Stock is good enough on low budget

[little osprey]

there is no glass on the case so wouldnt madder

[stoic island]

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

[little osprey]

matter

[muted patio]

CL16 for $105

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232859?item=N82E16820232859&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-memory+(desktop+memory)-_-N82E16820232859&gclid=CjwKCAiA__HvBRACEiwAbViuU-4Pvl5rOcl_T5hJzc2R9fc1DkHYgtQceo-LudC8RZt64am5D6Sx1BoC9_4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[stoic island]

That price is a bit high

I was seeing that kit sold for ~90 bucks a while ago

[muted patio]

Yeah it's not on sale anymore

[viral ore]

the CL 18 should be good enough

[stoic island]

I saw it on sale for 80 bucks, I mean normal price was 90 bucks I'm remembering

[little osprey]

Sassy is the cl18 a cpu fan lol

[viral ore]

lmao no its the ram timings

[muted patio]

If you need a low profile cooler use the included AMD cooler

[viral ore]

there is a cpu cooler by corsair i think would work well

[stoic island]

Dont need a cpu cooler unless you need to oc

(Other than stock)

[viral ore]

well, hes using the Core G3

[stoic island]

Wut

[viral ore]

i dont even think the stock will fit

[stoic island]

I remember hearing bout using a 3600 lol

[viral ore]

no, for the case

[muted patio]

Oh the case

[stoic island]

No idea da case :p

[viral ore]

the thermaltake core G3

[stoic island]

Link plz?

[little osprey]

wait was i gonna use the r5 5700 instead of the r5 3600?

[muted patio]

Stock should fit

[viral ore]

its a neat one

[stoic island]

Wraith spire is pretty small imo

[muted patio]

Yeah, I think stock will work fine

[stoic island]

Its not a prism that comes with 3600

[viral ore]

i mean airflow wise, im not sure its a great option

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FfKrMc

thats what i got so far

[muted patio]

Not much other choice in a case that thin. I think it will be OK though

[stoic island]

Just checked

The case has 11cm of cooler clearance, the spire is supposed to be 6.9cm

[viral ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fRfb27

changed it up a bit

[muted patio]

here's a pic with a SPire installed.

Sorry, that's a Prism

SO the spire should have plenty of room

[viral ore]

small pic too

[stoic island]

Yea

Cant see stuff lol

[muted patio]

Well, can't get a bigger one from Amazon lol

[stoic island]

But yea spec wise

[muted patio]

Bottom line is, Prism fits and works well so the Spire should be fine

[stoic island]

6.98cm out of 11cm clearance

It'll be fine

[muted patio]

that'll be a great gaming machine

[viral ore]

fyi, the Core G3 uses SFX psus

[little osprey]

would i be able to throw a water cooler into it Sassy?

[viral ore]

not ATX

actually, yeah, you could fit an AIO in there

[muted patio]

240mm for sure

[viral ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TC2yWb

[little osprey]

you had the same idea as me lol

[viral ore]

the NZXT Kraken is a nice lookin cooler

[little osprey]

i use to have it in my old pc

i was dumb and sold it

i was also dumb and bought a 1060 at 600 dollars

[viral ore]

o lmao

[little osprey]

cool thanks guys for the time!

[lime forge]

watch the swearing please

[stoic island]

If you swear

You become me

And thats not good

[sudden turret]

kicked 😄

auto-kicked *

[little osprey]

my bad :C

[sudden turret]

We all curse like crazy, just gotta get in a good habit of not doing it here 😄

[proud helm]

whats with all the trending videos about dell optiplex budget gaming pc

i mean its good but if youre really that broke you shouldnt be gaming

go get you a job

so you can make a nicer one thats more worth your time and money

[rustic bough]

Does anyone here have any experience with the power color vega 56?

I have some questions about it

[muted patio]

Good GPU but hot and power hungry. need 500+ watt PSU to run it.

[tranquil dust]

Yo if anyone needs a build list or needs a computer built I’m your guy

[sonic drift]

So, I'm thinking of building a workstation for my 15 year old brother. He's been into photoshop and animating lately, but also games a bit. What would be a decent spec list for that around the $800 price range?

[stoic island]

ryzen 3600, rx 580
quick estimation and guess from me

[tranquil dust]

Yea mainly the cpu and ram for animating

I’ll get you a parts list in a few

[sonic drift]

Mind DMing it to me? I get off break in 2 mins and won't have free time until I get off around 7:30 to 9

[tranquil dust]

Yup I’m working on it rn

[sullen spoke]

what is the best pc you can build around 700-900

[rugged copper]

Depends on what it is for, @sullen spoke

[sullen spoke]

gaming

[rugged copper]

Ok

Including periferals?

[sullen spoke]

no

[rugged copper]

Alright

I would go Ryzen 7 2700x bundled with an am4 motherboard from microcenter (last I checked it is 130 for the chip, but 100 bundled with an eligible motherboard), 65-120$ for a microATX motherboard of your preference, 2*8 gigs of 3200 ddr4 RAM for about 60$ on Newegg, 1tb HDD and 512 gb SSD, 650 non-modular PSU for about 45$ including rebate at Newegg, a microATX form factor case of your choice (45-100$), 120mm 3 pack of fans for about 35-40$ on Amazon, and lastly spend all remaining cash on a GPU on sale this Christmas season

I can send links to each part in a little bit once im home on my PC, as to I built this rig

[sullen spoke]

Using newegg

very noice

[rugged copper]

Ok, for newegg-only, I can do my best for links

However, some things are just cheaper elsewhere

[sullen spoke]

yeah lol

[rugged copper]

My build cost me around 500 after tax with a rx 570, but I paid about 165 for my peripherals through Craigslist, eBay, and bargaining

Darn I just realized I was about 1$ off of 666

Also @sullen spoke PM me later asking for the details of where to buy stuff for the build and I will send links

[sullen spoke]

If I need it I will 👍

[latent bronze]

You could get a 3 pack of ARGB fans from Rosewill which also includes a controller for the RGB and fan speeds

[eager chasm]

any particular reason for wanting a 2070 Super? 😮

VII out performs it, especially with the new drivers, and it's currently cheaper

[latent bronze]

VII is also a lot louder

[sullen spoke]

And hotter

[eager chasm]

Noise doesn't matter to me personally

[sullen spoke]

And the VII is not a GAMER gpu

At least not as GAMER as nvidia

[eager chasm]

the drivers are far better almost a year later, it's great in gaming, not as great as it could be.

it's honestly a decent option if you are in the $500 range while it's down that low

[sullen spoke]

ftw

[latent bronze]

Also people would prefer to buy new and not used

[astral raven]

is there anyone that can help me with a laptop i wanna buy

[eager chasm]

hope you mean helping you pick one out

[astral raven]

yeah

[sullen spoke]

Yeah I got a spare laptop I can sell you

Lol

500MHz cpu, 1gb ram, sound good?

[astral raven]

yeah it can probably run cod right

[sullen spoke]

Yeah sure....

At maybe .5fps

[eager chasm]

tech ghost, please don't roll the guy

[astral raven]

nvm i messaged the newegg service thing

[eager chasm]

@astral raven what are you looking to play besides cod?

[astral raven]

nah not cod i have a laptop im looking at but i just have questiona about it

[eager chasm]

and what is your target price?

ah ok, which laptop?

I can probably answer it

[astral raven]

i dm u

[latent bronze]

@cold iron The fans are compatible with it

[eager chasm]

much easier to use the CPU for encoding and not take a hit to performance

but you do you

I'll almost always take CPU encoding over GPU encoding cause the CPU has the headroom to do it usually

[dry tinsel]

i'd buy a VII if it was $300

the price is really high

[eager chasm]

$500 does actually put it pretty competitive with its performance

[dry tinsel]

yes but i'm not saving up for one

[eager chasm]

then you do you, buy the price range you are comfortable with 🙂

[dry tinsel]

i was gonna get a 5700 but i'm gonna probably end up with a vega 64 because used prices are less and they perform similarly to a 5700 with some minor differences

i've looked at a lot of benchmarking pitting them against each other

[autumn acorn]

hey i just built a new pc and it won’t install windows, it will freeze before it can get to the setup can anyone help

[proud helm]

the cpu could be overheating

did you install the cpu cooler correctly?

or your windows boot up usb is corrupted

What are your pc specs?

[stoic island]

Does it make a loud sound? If so, CPU overheat

[autumn acorn]

Cpu is using a water cooler and is at 32c, my specs are 2080 super, i7 9700k, 16gb ram, 860 evo sata ssd, 970 evo nvme ssd

also what kind of sound

[proud helm]

dang so you have a really beefy pc

go into the bios and make sure your cpu is at its rated clock speed and your ram is also

[stoic island]

Like just loud af screech

[muted patio]

I'd remove the other SATA drive as well and re-do the WIndows boot media

[distant steppe]

try plugging it into a different usb port

[muted patio]

Or that too ^^^^^^^

[autumn acorn]

yeah will try once i finish eating

new pc for christmas and i can’t even get past bios

[muted patio]

Oof. for me, hardware is easy, software is not so nice when it doesn't work

[autumn acorn]

also my water cooler will turn off when it freezes but everything else stays on

[muted patio]

Where do you ahve it connected to?

Fan header or CPU Fan header?

[autumn acorn]

cpu fan header

[tranquil dust]

There may be one called pump

[muted patio]

What motherboard?

[tranquil dust]

Do you have a header called pump

[autumn acorn]

let me get the exact name

[tranquil dust]

You don’t know the name of your motherboard

[autumn acorn]

gigabyte gaming x z390

just got everything today

[toxic notch]

hey wondering if anyone can help; my PC has been auto restarting a lot lately, randomly, and games crash a lot; sometimes when it restarts it keeps doing that repeatedly and I have to hold power button till it stops. I got some windows error like "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA". I've already tried a lot of the things and guides to fix these issues; my game drivers are up to date, ive run the RAM Memory diagnostics a few times, checked all my drives for corruption, no virus. I took my CPU out and cleaned the fan, put some new thermal compound on recently (problems were there before that tho), taken the RAM out and put it back in... Like idk what the issue is, nothing seems to fix? I thought it may be my CPU because the CPU is a regular i7 6700 thats used and older and the previous owner also used it for mining. But maybe my RAM? Oe PSU?
Specs for ref: RTX 2070, i7 6700, 16GB DDR4, 650W PSU, Z270 SLi Mobo

[muted patio]

No Pump header on that motherboard

[autumn acorn]

yeah no

[muted patio]

But the CPU fan shutting off indicates a CPU issue

[tranquil dust]

Ooo you got a role

How do I get one

[muted patio]

Any lights on it when it shuts down?

[autumn acorn]

lights for the water cooler turn off

everything else is on

[muted patio]

Fans are still on?

Just the pump and lights shut off?

[autumn acorn]

if completely shut down the graphics card has a light and the mobo

oh also two of my case fans turn off

[muted patio]

I would check the BIOS and set the CPU fan header to 100% all the time to keep the pump running at max speed

Almost sounds like it overheats and gives up

[tranquil dust]

Wait

Do you have enough wattage on your psu?

[autumn acorn]

it’s 850 watt

[muted patio]

What cooler is it?

[autumn acorn]

evga 280 sup

aio*

[muted patio]

Those have a USB plug and a fan header plug. Both plugged in?

[autumn acorn]

yes both

[muted patio]

From the symptoms it sounds like the CPU gets hot and shuts off. If you have thermal paste handy, I'd take it apart and make sure everything is mounted correctly.

Oh, might be getting hot because the fan header isn't set to 100%

Don't forget to do that too to keep the pump speed up

@toxic notch long shot but...take your ram out, blow the slots out and put it back in. Those are typically ram issues

[autumn acorn]

i set to 100 and am trying now

also if i try to turn on xmp i get a boot failure

[muted patio]

is your ram in the right slots?

[muted patio]

Looks like it

[proud helm]

you just might have to rebuild the entire thing and make sure everything is plugged in correctly

are you getting the post screen>

?

so like after the post screen it just freezes?

[tranquil dust]

Your motherboard could just be dead

[autumn acorn]

yes i can post

i just took out cmos battery so i can reset

[muted patio]

I would also unplug any and all USB devices except the thumb drive. Plug them back in after it starts up. Sounds odd but it's worked before.

[autumn acorn]

yes also usb setting in bios showed legacy

which i ready caused issues for some

[proud helm]

dude so sorry youre pc aint working

its a really nice

feels bnad

bad

[muted patio]

Any luck?

[sullen spoke]

ye with x264 you can feel a bit of latency

[autumn acorn]

keeps freezing when i get try to go into windows

can i take a video of what i’m doing

[eager chasm]

I never feel any FPS hit when using the CPU to encode

[coarse coral]

depends on the game

[autumn acorn]

so i do f12 when my pc is starting then i select my usb with windows then it starts to load but freezes immediately, when it freezes 2 of my case fans stop spinning but the RGB stay on, also my water cooler completely turns off

[eager chasm]

then let me say it in more concrete terms I don't take a hit to FPS when I use the CPU to encode

big shock, games don't use all the CPU, there are other cores and plenty of overhead

well you keep thinking that, I'll keep useing it with no negative affects

[jaunty karma]

Guys

My pc just died randomly

[eager chasm]

Just did a sort recording, 70-80 FPS in this town before recording, 70-80 FPS in the town while recording

No problems or drop

no need for you to be a butt about it.

[sudden turret]

eh ya both can relax.

😄

[eager chasm]

funny enough this game uses all cores at the same time to start with

[little osprey]

Sounds like the windows scheduler is doing it job

If there's spare cpu time, it's not hard to configure encoding not to pull down fps.

Assuming there's enough headroom.

[eager chasm]

it doesnt

I'm saying the game doesn't artificially cap my FPS

lol

odd cause I just used it with a game with uncapped FPS and it didn't drop my FPS, odd

[sudden turret]

sweet, lets end it here.

[eager chasm]

you can call me what you want, doesn't change what I know

[sharp viper]

Anyone got a good build around $1000 usd?

[still roost]

JemuzuO_O#3632 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[eager chasm]

lol

[sudden turret]

I said end it man

[coarse coral]

wow

[eager chasm]

wow...

[coarse coral]

that's unfortunate

[sudden turret]

Ryoku, when people get like that, just stop the convo.

[latent bronze]

What was the bad word (since i still can't see it)

[coarse coral]

f word

[sudden turret]

it was a threat.

[latent bronze]

ah ok

[coarse coral]

and then avoided word filter for b word

[latent bronze]

thanks buddy

[sharp viper]

It’s takes two to argue.. if you stop replying it just makes them mad lol

[coarse coral]

and then threatened

[eager chasm]

a death threat on me, I'm popular

[coarse coral]

[latent bronze]

Theo is mr popular..... cause he never wins anything

[tranquil dust]

Oof

[autumn acorn]

so i do f12 when my pc is starting then i select my usb with windows then it starts to load but freezes immediately, when it freezes 2 of my case fans stop spinning but the RGB stay on, also my water cooler completely turns off

[eager chasm]

are you using the USB on the front panel? @autumn acorn

try the back if you are

[cinder vault]

@sharp viper This would be a good starting point: https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/xM7Ycf/great-amd-gamingstreaming-build

[latent bronze]

For streaming he would have to rely on software instead of hardware

[eager chasm]

which isn't too bad if you are careful setting it up

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ayyiwakeup/saved/

here’s my $1000ish build

parts will be here in a week

[eager chasm]

decent, a little under value with the CPU, but still a good build 🙂

[sharp viper]

Streaming isn’t a concern

I’m just trying to build a decent gaming pc

[muted patio]

Only thing I'd change there is the cooler. Maybe a scythe Mugen or something. The 212 isn't quite the cooler it used to be

[autumn acorn]

@eager chasm i was using the front but i tried the back and got the same results

just freezes as soon as it starts loading

[muted patio]

Try the SSD instead of the M.2

?

DO the drives show in the BIOS?

Can you boot with a MemTest86 USB drive and test the RAM? Those would be my next steps

[clear acorn]

guys

what can you say on this build?

[little osprey]

pretty rad

what psu

[clear acorn]

oh its on the case..

650W

[little osprey]

oh nice

[clear acorn]

should i purchase that set up?

i mean order

[little osprey]

i like it but im building for the first time rn

[muted patio]

Uh

I wouldn't go 2060 unless you're going to be streaming

5700XT is much faster for the same price

@clear acorn

[little osprey]

can get a 5700 for $300 rn

[muted patio]

Yep

Equal to the 2060 though

5700xt is 2070s level performance

[little osprey]

Can anyone help me my computer turns on but won’t boot and I checked every individual part and also every cable

Just shows up with orange light on motherboard

I didn’t check the cpu but the cpu error light isn’t on

[dry tinsel]

it sounds like the motherboard

assuming you have correctly checked and reseated everything

[little osprey]

Is there a way to definitively check to see if the motherboard doesn’t work?

[latent bronze]

Did you check the memory

[little osprey]

Yeah I checked RAM

[latent bronze]

how many slots

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made sure it was in there perfectly and all that

[little osprey]

4 slots and I’ve tried every combination possible

With 2 sticks

[latent bronze]

Well it is 1 and 3, 2 and 4

[dry tinsel]

if you have at least two sticks try using only one

and then the other one

[little osprey]

I did

[latent bronze]

Also try with 1 stick

[little osprey]

1 stick still didn’t work

I also tried the other stick alone

[latent bronze]

what is your board

[little osprey]

B450m ds3h

[latent bronze]

Ya i don't like Gigabyte boards

it always seems cheap i find with the lower models

[dry tinsel]

gotta spend at least like $120 on their boards for good quality

[little osprey]

Do I get a new board

[dry tinsel]

maybe

i searched for the orange light and that is just part of the board

do you have all the power cables plugged into your GPU?

[little osprey]

Yes

[dry tinsel]

sorry, silly question but it must be asked

[little osprey]

I individually checked every cable

[latent bronze]

All cords are on the motherboard

[little osprey]

All are plugged in except useless ones

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useless ones?

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What CPU are you using

[little osprey]

The slots I don’t need

From the psu

I’m using ryzen 5 3600

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and you just bought that board?

[little osprey]

Yes

[latent bronze]

if so that is the reason

the Gigabyte board is not up to date for 3000 chips

[little osprey]

Dont I just do bios update

[latent bronze]

You would need a Zen 1 or Zen+ to update it

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has nothing to do with gigabutt, they have a lot of 3000 ready boards, just not this one

[little osprey]

Isn’t the 3600 am4 slot

The motherboard is

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it is but some boards are not ready for it

they need BIOS updates

[latent bronze]

and that one is not ready for it

[little osprey]

What motherboard do I get

[latent bronze]

You can contact AMD for them to send you a processor for updating it

[little osprey]

b450 or above all work

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unless the bios is not updated

[little osprey]

I have b450

you can just flashbac kthen

[latent bronze]

He can't

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with what CPU

[little osprey]

Also I can’t update the bios because computer doesn’t output anything

[latent bronze]

only MSI for B450

[little osprey]

no

bruh

my asrock can update

and so can gigabyte boards

[latent bronze]

Bruh this is what he has https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145083

not all boards have it

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gigabyte doesn't have this feature of loading up the BIOS without the CPU

[little osprey]

upports AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen/

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far as i know

[little osprey]

read the supports list

Supports AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen/2nd Gen Ryzen/1st Gen Ryzen / 2nd Gen Ryzen with Radeon Vega Graphics/1st Gen Ryzen with Radeon Vega Graphics / Athlon with Radeon Vega Graphics Processors

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those support entries are accompanied by BIOS versions