building-and-recc-chat

[latent bronze]

You can still get drivers for the HD 7970 but it wouldn't really support it

That is why when people heard that they started to sell their 7000 series and started going for the RX 400 and 500 series

[high coyote]

Don’t you love sitting around looking at your pc with no graphics card and the graphics card is coming on Friday

[latent bronze]

This is why i own the Shield lol

could cloud game my PC games still lol

[high coyote]

I sold my 1070 on eBay and got a RTX 2070 S

And my motherboard does not have a built in GPU

[little osprey]

So I have a bit of a retro thing I need help with. I need a CPU cooler that'll fit LGA478 and keep a Pentium 4 2.8GHz (I think Prescott) below 55c. It idles at 55c in the BIOS with the default cooler. The motherboard in question is the ASUS P4S800D-X and the cooler mounting holes are spaced like 70x75mm

[native dune]

So im looking into building a server to host a minecraft server for me and my friends. I just want to know if there is any importance in picking out a motherboard. Like, what do i want to have in it that will make it run better. Or is the motherboard not exactly important other than putting everything together basically?

[polar holly]

You dont need to run it on server specific gear. rather it will run very well on a secondary computer.

[rugged gust]

Can someone send me a parts list for a 1500 dollar pc that can run vr and also have wifi. Thanks

[polar holly]

what do you have now in the ways of storage. and what vr system

[rugged gust]

Im just looking to build a pc

[polar holly]

that is why i am asking what your specific needs for this build is

such as if you already have hdds in a build your replacing, and how much horsepower is needed to run the vr system you are using

[little osprey]

hey do i need to turn off my pc to install an hdd, i have all the wires ready?

[polar holly]

yes you will need to turn it off

[little osprey]

thank you so much

[polar holly]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C6LKq3 @rugged gust

[cursive wharf]

That isnt that great for the price

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T8mKq3

could maybe get an RGB mobo

[polar holly]

he wants wifi so yes thats a good mobo a better cooler, and a better airflow case

nothing on your case is better just is a budget version

with worse parts

[grave hornet]

I need to rebuild my pc and build a back up pc sucks not having enough $$ to. Do it..

[polar holly]

why do you need to rebuild yours

[grave hornet]

It’s like 5 years old

Like I’m on a amr-fx

Amd*

And a 1060 gpu lol

[polar holly]

I reccomend looking for used parts in your area. the 1060 isnt bad but it isnt good

[grave hornet]

Yeah I want to rebuild it also as I’m in school for software engineering and I want to cycle the parts to build a back up pc for school coding and others stuff of sorts away from gaming

[polar holly]

the good thing in todays world pcs can do both amazing now

my current build is mainly animations but overbuilt for gaming also

[grave hornet]

Yeah since I will be doing a lot of in depth coding I like to keep it away also as I apply for work and Intern I want a secure pc just for code and other stuff

[polar holly]

i guess i dont get that because a gaming pc is super ovebuilt for doing that if built correct and will be able to game amazing

[grave hornet]

It’s more of being able to run multiple OS and not use for anything else then coding

[polar holly]

ahh then yeah that will cost you and many softwares for engineering are getting cpu intesive

[faint rivet]

amateur builder here. anyone willing to take a look at a shopping list and let me know if the components are compatible for fitment and operation as well as opinions as to what the system will provide WRT performance for my son...who is not an advanced gamer? thnx

[floral tree]

Is installing Linux the same as installing Windows

[polar holly]

sort of

[grave hornet]

Depends on the distribution @floral tree

[polar holly]

@faint rivet link a pc partpicker list

[floral tree]

Ok

[grave hornet]

Some req no partition and can run on a usb or a pi

[floral tree]

I just never hear anyone using Linux even though it’s not that bad

[polar holly]

also what do you mean by WRT

[grave hornet]

And some req a partition

Linux is not really ment for gaming

But it’s good for coding and networking

[floral tree]

Yeah isn’t it meant for running things that aren’t really meant to be PCs

[grave hornet]

Well kind of it’s ment more for the professional it field

So like security coding front/back end

[floral tree]

Ok

[grave hornet]

Networking

[polar holly]

it is more specilized with how you use it. Rather tahn having a full built os meant for everything

[grave hornet]

Like kali is a hackers love cause it’s ment for pen testing

And hacking

And Ubuntu is used slot in server farms and some networking

And centOS is used slot for coding same with Ubuntu and red hat

[polar holly]

I use Ubuntu for work with photography as a good way to secure encode and move the images

[grave hornet]

Yeah

I use Ubuntu on my server

And kali to check security on servers I build

[polar holly]

I run unraid for mine

[grave hornet]

And I also use Ubuntu for Linux coding as I’m lazy and have a partition of it already

And I run Mac OS X on a van

Vm*

[gaunt fiber]

Am I able to use a hdd from a windows 7 PC in my current windows 10 without screwing my PC up

[grave hornet]

Yes

[gaunt fiber]

I currently have a 1tb hdd but I want the extra space

[grave hornet]

But won’t be able to run Windows 7 lol

[gaunt fiber]

That's fine

I can't get on the old PC to wipe the HDD

[grave hornet]

Will have to wipe it and reformat it

[gaunt fiber]

How do I do that lmao

I just don't want windows 7 and 10 trying to operate at the same time lol

[grave hornet]

In disk managment

[gaunt fiber]

Okay so I can plug it in and start the pc up and then go to disk management?

[grave hornet]

If I was you I would look online for best ways in your situation

[gaunt fiber]

Gotcha

[grave hornet]

As I’m on my phone in the car lol and getting yelled at by my gf to drive Soo you know time to change seats

[gaunt fiber]

Lmao

I'll try to Google something hopefully I can figure something out

[grave hornet]

Yeah shouldn’t have a problem finding it

[polar holly]

You will be able to put it into your pc make sure it isnt the firest in goot order then wipe and reformat it

@gaunt fiber

[lavish beacon]

My psu has two slots for 8 pin cables, but the ends of the 8 pin cables have two connectors. Is it safe to use both of the connections from one of these cables to connect my gpu (8 pinx2) or do I need to use two cables?

[native dune]

@polar holly I understand that I can use any old computer I have, but does the motherboard make a difference in how it runs or is that only cpu and ram ( gpu not needed since it is just a server host)

[polar holly]

The motherboard will not effect how the server runs as that will be down to the amount of ram and cpu you use

it will effect your cpu by its overclock and ram compatibility

[gaunt fiber]

ok were all good

formatted the hdd and its good

[bitter python]

Just ordered an rtx2080super and ryzen 7 3800x. I’m excited 😊

[peak pilot]

Hello🤔

[polar holly]

Hello

[peak pilot]

I'm building my first pc and I have a question on which ram I should get, does it matter what brand it is?

[stoic island]

Mostly depends on which model from which brand

A good brand can have bad models

[polar holly]

The brand does not matter, just check to make sure it is on the ram that had been checked to clock correctly with your mobo.

Shouldn’t say doesn’t matter doesn’t matter as much

[stoic island]

Like just because G.skill is good doesn't mean you should get some like 2166mhz c20 ram

[polar holly]

Then I know some brands advertise high speed but it doesn’t work with all mother boards

[peak pilot]

The mother board I'm planning on getting is a b450 tomahawk max. My budget is under 1200 ,but I'm going to upgrade later on in the future

[polar holly]

I would reccomend linking a pcpartpicker list into chat for more detailed help

[peak pilot]

Okay

Give me a sec.

[cursive wharf]

One long sec there

[rapid finch]

Hey guys, what do you think about this config? (i already bought the 1050ti 1,5 years ago and i currently using in my pc)
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/schakoska/saved/#view=hXt27P

[dry tinsel]

me, waiting for my parts: boy, in two weeks it's gonna be a good time with the new PC
me also: installs power supply and necessary cables, figuring it's okay to route them later probably routes them tomorrow

[polar holly]

@rapid finch you should be able to get better ram and a better processor for the same price ranges

[dry tinsel]

consider the following: M.2 NVMe drive instead of SATA SSD, and also maybe upgrading that GPU in the $200 range

if you can possibly manage it

also that CPU and motherboard are expensive and you can go AMD and get a better result

R7 2700 or about that for CPU for a little more than that, and you could get a B450 tomahawk board

since we're promoting the tomahawk around here for some reason

it's a cool board

[polar holly]

He already owns the gpu so that is to be taken into account

[dry tinsel]

yeah

admittedly, it was a poor suggestion but one i felt like i had to make because the 1050 Ti doesn't do much anymore

[gaunt fiber]

Guys serious question. Athlon 2 x4

Lmao

[dry tinsel]

not that not ever

[polar holly]

Yeah it is kinda on its last legs as a gpu but if he already has it it should be worked with for the time till it can be upgraded

[gaunt fiber]

The pc I took apart has an athlon 2 in it

I wonder if it could run any games???

[viral ore]

recycle bin

you can use it to run older games

[polar holly]

It probably can run reach I mean a lemon could run that

[viral ore]

like if you wanna play like AOE

or the og hale ce

[dry tinsel]

yeah it's good for that

[gaunt fiber]

Lol

[dry tinsel]

you can probably play doom 2016 because of how miraculously well it scales

at like 640x480 low settings

[polar holly]

Vulcan api is super good for that

[gaunt fiber]

The Mobo it has in it. Never heard of it before

[polar holly]

Halo reach we tested it can be run quite well on like any pc from the past 5 years

[dry tinsel]

vulkan is good for AMD cards in particular

i love it

[polar holly]

If not probably further back but we didn’t have anything older

[gaunt fiber]

Well I mean like the athlon 2 is from 08 lmao

[dry tinsel]

vulkan on an nvidia card is probably doesn't really do anything to boost performance but it's literally like 30% on a lower powered AMD card

[gaunt fiber]

Oh the Mobo BTW is a pegatron

[dry tinsel]

when's the last time you heard of pegatron

[gaunt fiber]

Never heard that brand before

[dry tinsel]

holy butts

it's been a while

[gaunt fiber]

It's the m2n78-la I believe

[polar holly]

Vulkan helps boost both sides of the card wars quite well especially the lower end

[gaunt fiber]

Hey I will say it has a slot for a gpu lmao

Came with 8gb of RAM aswell

[dry tinsel]

i'm getting a Vega 64 because Visi said it was almost as good as an RX 5700, i really want to see what vulkan does to something in the higher mid range like that

i also looked at benchmarks, of course

and he was right

[gaunt fiber]

I want to upgrade my gpu but still not sure what I want

Can't be over like 350

[dry tinsel]

go nvidia on low end, AMD on $300 and up

unless you stream

[gaunt fiber]

Nah

I currently have a 1060 6gb

I'm actually thinking about the Vega 56 but idk

[dry tinsel]

vega 56 is a solid card

it will be a lot better than your 1080 ti

[gaunt fiber]

Oh yeah huh

[viral ore]

?

[gaunt fiber]

1080 ti

Lmao

[dry tinsel]

1050 Ti

[trim heron]

How much is windows 10

[dry tinsel]

excuse me

[viral ore]

no, the 1080 ti does much better than a vega 56

[gaunt fiber]

1060 6gb lmao

Yeah I know

[dry tinsel]

@viral ore i know, i typo'd that

[viral ore]

o lol

i was confused

[dry tinsel]

was supposed to say 1050 ti

the vega 56 will handily beat that

[gaunt fiber]

I was being sarcastic when I said oh yeah huh lol

[trim heron]

Anyone know windows 10 prices?

[viral ore]

like 110 for home

[trim heron]

Oh

[viral ore]

140 for pro

[dry tinsel]

that's OEM prices

[viral ore]

or you can get the legal grey area keys

[dry tinsel]

avoid OEM, any hardware changes and your windows license is revoked

ebay keys

[gaunt fiber]

I looked on userbench comparing the 2 and the 56 is 22% better but im going to look at some game benches aswell

[dry tinsel]

if your license gets revoked it's okay because you spent $5

[polar holly]

Yeah I bought over 100 keys at one pint cause I found someone selling them for 1 dollar each. I go through them so fast

[dry tinsel]

just by using them on new computers?

[polar holly]

@gaunt fiber don’t forget to look at the used market also you can find some amazing deals. I got a 9900k system with a 1080ti for like $1000.

Yeah I use them for new builds and anytime mine is revoked for hardware changes

[gaunt fiber]

Well I can't spend a grand lmao

But yeah I get you

[polar holly]

I am just saying that build new would be around $1600.

[gaunt fiber]

For sure

Ant suggestions lol

[polar holly]

So it was a steal not to take it. I turned it around and salvaged it and made 500 on the parts

[gaunt fiber]

On places to look for used stuff

[polar holly]

Check any of the main retailers like craigslist and stuff. My sources are local ones that don’t work everywhere. So I get a lot of stuff from companies and larger scale operations

[gaunt fiber]

Ahh

Yeah I'll definitely look around

Newegg has the blower Vega 56 for I think like 290 or something like that

I'm not worried that it's a blower

I'd liquid cool it eventually

[polar holly]

I don’t liquid cool things unless they are more expensive that the loop I am making.

[gaunt fiber]

Well it would be an aio nothing to crazy. Don't have the room in my case

[polar holly]

Because the blocks don’t transfer and then it makes the card +$150 bucks

[gaunt fiber]

If they make one for that anyways

[polar holly]

How are you aioing a gpu

I personally have never seen one

[gaunt fiber]

They make a kit for the 5700xt blower

[polar holly]

That doesnt always mean that it works on other cards like many of the water blocks

[gaunt fiber]

Well yeah I'd do some research first

See if they make one for that card or not

[polar holly]

Yeah and see if the price even makes sense or if you should just buy a card that has hat additional value

[gaunt fiber]

Yeah true

I'll definitely look around first before I go with something like that though

[polar holly]

I mean blower cards aren’t awful they are just noisy and hot

[gaunt fiber]

I dont mind noise but yeah I know they get hot. My room stays cool most of the time so it shouldn't be to bad lol

Plus I have plenty of airflow

So which rx series is better than my 1060 6gb?

Im not to familiar with the rx series amd

Dumb question. The 580. I'm dumb

[dark hearth]

Another problem guys

My friend pulled my PC and the wires attached with it

Now for some reason, my monitors won't display half the time

I have to fiddle with it to attempt a fix at it

Is it a problem with the GPU input stuff or the cables?

[eager chasm]

your friend might have damaged your GPU ports

[dry tinsel]

vapelord the 5700

also the Vega 64 but try to stay away from used cards

new Vega 64s are for reasons unknown much more expensive than new 5700s

[eager chasm]

Funny enough if people need to drop down to the 1660 tier RX 590s are a better deal

GPU prices and values make no sense sometimes

[latent bronze]

um 1660 is above a 590

590 tier is the 1650S to be honest

[eager chasm]

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1660-vs-AMD-RX-590/4038vs4033

Look at the game benchmarks

They flip back and forth and sometimes are equal

[latent bronze]

Games shows a better result

[eager chasm]

There are games in the link gave

And yea I see the 590 right behind the 1660

[latent bronze]

ya and the 1650S is not that far behind

[cursive wharf]

Lol. Wanted to look at results for myself on this, find a decently long list of game comparisons and found this hilarious thing

Oh wait nvm

That is 1650

not 1650S

thanks brain

[eager chasm]

The 590 is closer to the 1660 in overall performance

[latent bronze]

update your brain to 2.0

[cursive wharf]

Probably needs more updates then that

[latent bronze]

the update helps with more processing power lol

[cursive wharf]

idk how credible this source is but
https://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=4832&gid2=4073&compare=Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650 Super 4GB-vs-AMD Radeon RX 590 8GB

[latent bronze]

ya i don't trust game debate anymore

[eager chasm]

590 prices are a lot lower currently

Under the cost of a 1660 for about the same performance across multiple games

[latent bronze]

some of their admins also runs those tests using like a Pentium or a i3

[cursive wharf]

difference between 1650S and 1660 does seem a bit large

on game debate's site

[latent bronze]

There is one guys test bench that is a 6600K

not even overclocked

[eager chasm]

User benchmark tests between the 1660 and 590 were with a 9600K over clocked

[latent bronze]

his main system is like a 9700K but the test bench is a 6600K does that make sense

I would expect testing out newer GPU's to use something a little more modern for testing

[cursive wharf]

I mean another issue is that there isnt a way to look at benchmark specs from the test that was done

Alright, anyways. This is from techspot

[eager chasm]

the 590 did better than the 1660 in CSGO, tied in overwatch and PUBG, then lost in GTAV and fornite. It really depends on the game

But they are pretty close

For a decent chunk of money less I'd buy a 590 over a 1660

[latent bronze]

Fortnite though will always run better with Nvidia

[eager chasm]

not if you run it on a 1030

lol

[latent bronze]

vs a RX 550

[cursive wharf]

I'd just buy a 1650S instead of a 590. Perf difference isnt noticeable and you get CUDA support + new NVENC

[eager chasm]

The 1030 is Soo potato it's only meant for heavier office computers XD

[cursive wharf]

DDR4 1030 is best

[latent bronze]

I tried Fortnite on my laptop which is using a MX150 which is like the GT 1030 and on low settings 1080p i was getting around 35 to 40 fps

[eager chasm]

Shocking

[latent bronze]

DDR4 1030 is a potato GPU but the GDDR5 model is a different story

[eager chasm]

I still stand by my hypothetical choice for the 1660 range

As long as they stay cheaper the 590 will be my recommendation for budget builds

[little osprey]

As long as nobody buys a 1650 I'm happy.

[eager chasm]

Lol

[latent bronze]

I would recommend the 1650S over the 590 for a budget build

[cursive wharf]

@little osprey what about no PCIe cables tho?

[eager chasm]

That a tier and price difference, consider people's budgets

[cursive wharf]

get a mini 1650 (im sure they exist by now)

half ones

whatever they're called

[little osprey]

Right - it's nvidia strong-arming those who don't like to diy a jank solution or can't - into paying a tax

I wouldn't bother complaining at all if it just had the same Turing hardware encoder, but nope.

[eager chasm]

If people can only afford a 1660 and not a 1660s better to save them a few $10 bills and point them at a 590

[latent bronze]

See when i am build a real budget PC i look at everything cause the 1650S you could use like a 350 to 400w PSU without any issues

[little osprey]

It's 2019, please don't buy a 400w anything.

[cursive wharf]

590 makes no sense unless really cheap raw compute (why not used vega tho)

[eager chasm]

I used. 450W in my sister's 1700 and 1060 build

[cursive wharf]

either 1650S or 1660S

for budget-ish

that or 570

[eager chasm]

590 makes perfect sense it's right next to the 1660 in performance for $30 cheaper

[cursive wharf]

used 470 for really budget

1650S is $20 cheaper and on average loses 5 FPS, which you cant notice. You gain CUDA support and NVENC

[little osprey]

I wouldn't really fixate on the watt number tbh - usually just go to pcpp - check off gold, or w/e then sort by price and scroll down until I find a nice balance

For others - haven't bought a psu new for myself in y> a year haha

[eager chasm]

And the 590 scores above a 1650S

[cursive wharf]

again, barely more than a 1650S

[eager chasm]

For cheaper

[cursive wharf]

no.. for more

[little osprey]

590 lacks vp9, no bueno for some current, maybe more future 4k

[cursive wharf]

$160 for 1650S and $180 for 590

[little osprey]

Also it'll age poorly since driver updates will cater to navi

[eager chasm]

Who's doing 4K on budget builds anyway?

[cursive wharf]

who's doing 4k for gaming anyways?

just 1440 with MSAA

[little osprey]

Watching video , decoding in general

Idk, the 580 used is so , so good rn. Miners are trying to give them away

[cursive wharf]

That or 480

I find is usually $10 cheaper than 580

[little osprey]

I'd like the 480 all well - but given 580's wonton surplus, why risk some kid dropping a 480 in his dell and watching it combust 🙂

[eager chasm]

But yea I'd say 1650S if they can get a 590, that's a 5FPS difference for $20, but a 590 to a 1660 is a $30 difference for 2 FPS

That's really nitpicking the price per performance difference

XD

[little osprey]

First time here?

🙂

[cursive wharf]

Plus I feel like 1650S would have a better time OCing, cuz 590 has been OCed basically two times (480 OC to 580 OC)

but that is speculation

[eager chasm]

I'd bank on a average user won't overclock

Which most dont

[little osprey]

Much of Pascal/Turing , OC limit is hard capped by vbios spec for power limit + how well you can cool

Can't just yeet volts like any cpu

I hate that word

[cursive wharf]

lol

[eager chasm]

I'll yeet you

[little osprey]

Not with an rx 580

[cursive wharf]

but cooling shouldnt be too bad cuz it's a decently low powered card. So just vbios I guess

[eager chasm]

I'm the last person to talk about value... Got a launch VII

[cursive wharf]

Eh, not a titan RTX

[little osprey]

half the 2080 ti discord has their card flashed to a 500w or 1000w bios for good reason lol.
More than you'd think run sli as well.
I think 2020 will see a lot more SLI/NVlink

Did you get the signed shirt?

[cursive wharf]

1000w bios...

imagine actually fully using that

[little osprey]

Power has such sharp and frequent transients , the more the better haha. But ya, at a certain point, even ln2 won't do

The 320w FE limit is averaged - it still spike well over 400

Every gpu is like that

[cursive wharf]

yee, I expected spikes to be about 375w

[eager chasm]

Stick your GPU in a supercomputer absolute Zero chamber

XD

[cursive wharf]

Like the quantum computer chambers ?

[eager chasm]

Yep

That will beat LN2

Lol

[cursive wharf]

Im sure it will

[little osprey]

Might sticky in gpu's later since it's a primary source, but this was pretty excited when it was announced. Forgot to link earlier. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/directx/2018/03/19/announcing-microsoft-directx-raytracing/

[eager chasm]

that tech demo is basically a fluff peice

[glacial meteor]

hahaha... I wonder.

[eager chasm]

No RTX implementation has done anything nearly as epic as that star wars tech demo, and if it did it would kill the game performance

Let's be real that wasn't probably rendered real-time when it was shown

[little osprey]

DLSS is going to really shine on consoles for the next decade imo. Kinda like Apex's scaling resolution to hit target fps

Pointless to argue if it's "real" 4k60 or not, it's better to start with rich textures and upscale when things get tough.

[eager chasm]

Yeet the 4K, I want FPS performance

[cursive wharf]

DLSS is meh

but that changing res shader thing

whatever it's called, that seems like it'll work well

[dry tinsel]

FPS is everything, within reason

[dry tinsel]

i like 1080p because i can get FPS while also enjoying some graphics

[lavish beacon]

What is this and why did my new monitor come with it

[dry tinsel]

hwat

that's clearly some kind of nonsense

it's... some kind of display standard to USB

[lavish beacon]

I mean it came with a $500 monitor so there's probably a reason for it

[dry tinsel]

there's no standard USB connector like that

so it makes me think it's something else besides USB

[lavish beacon]

It came with a dp too though

[dry tinsel]

is that thunderbolt over USB?

[lavish beacon]

It has a usb icon

And mini display isn't thunderbolt, don't disgrace it like that 😠

[dry tinsel]

thunderbolt is pretty good actually

it's like PCIe in a cable

[little osprey]

It's a usb 3.0 to your monitor.

[lavish beacon]

For what?

Can that be used to connect the display?

[eager chasm]

Does it have RGB?

@lavish beacon

More USB ports on the monitor?

Some monitors with RGB can use USB to sync with the rest of your RGB

[stoic island]

Holy crap R6S is 100GB now?

Last time I downloaded it, it was like 66GB

[stoic island]

@little osprey what happened to the CPU cooler? That looks crooked

[little osprey]

It’s a pre build

Even my brother thought I was autistic for buying a cpu cooler like that

[stoic island]

What

[little osprey]

But it actually goes like that

[stoic island]

What cpu do you have

[little osprey]

I7

Intel core

[stoic island]

Oh intel

I was gonna be like if its ryzen just keep the stock cooler, its better than that ... thing

[little osprey]

Lmao

Ima get a new one soon tho

Prob in 2020

[stoic island]

Wait that might not even be how you're supposed to mount it

You might have a fan thats too big

Bc it looks like you only screwed in 2 corners

[little osprey]

There all screwed in

All four corners

[stoic island]

Da heck

Also is that only 1 stick of ram or is it too hard to see in the pic

[little osprey]

Idk if that’ll help

Yea

It’s one stick of ram

I just into pc gaming tho

[stoic island]

Dual channel memory would still help but its fine

[little osprey]

that will definitely impact your performance

Aight

[stoic island]

I was bouta say wait you have 2 mouses?

[little osprey]

I’ll buy another hyper x ram card

Yes

I do

Problem?

[stoic island]

Wat

It looks like two of the same mouse

[little osprey]

The rgb one is a Logitech

And the other is a hp mouse

[stoic island]

It looks like you have 2 logitech bc of the reflection

[little osprey]

Oh

Ok

Thanks @stoic island

[stoic island]

Yw

[little osprey]

I’ll try to find a good cpu cooler

And I’ll buy another ram card

Aight ima head out

[stoic island]

Aight

[west finch]

If you're going to buy another stick of ram, make sure it's the same model number as your current one

Mixing up ram will likely have stability issues.

[eager chasm]

Anyone else with a heavy GPU use a Support arm or something? just curious

[prime spear]

@eager chasm I have a gtx 960 and its pretty heavy and tyhe single Screw at the front of the Case works really well to hold it up

[tranquil dust]

[eager chasm]

Anyone else use anything to prevent sag on heavy GPUs?

[inland atlas]

Gpu bracket

@eager chasm

[eager chasm]

I use a support arm, personally, so I was just wondering 🙂

[sudden turret]

legos

[unkempt niche]

Hello chat i wanted to know if this is a pretty decent build for a pc that i could stream/play video games and do homework just like powerpoints and researching
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RGsfdm

[eager chasm]

for a bit more you could get a Ryzen 5 and that would be better at using software encoding for streaming

that would get you 6core 12 thread, instead of 6/6

[unkempt niche]

My budget would be around $2,000

So if there’s anything that i should change then i’m okay with it 😃

[eager chasm]

Actually the Ryzen 5 is CHEAPER atm

😄

[unkempt niche]

I have to no little knowledge of what is a ryzen 5

[eager chasm]

but otherwise it's only a $30 incrase

[unkempt niche]

It’s going to be my first build 😅

[eager chasm]

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600x/p/N82E16819113568?Description=3600X&cm_re=3600X-_-19-113-568-_-Product

you would need a different MB to use it

a 5700 would perform better than 1660Ti for about the same price too

if you use the CPU for the streaming and not the GPU it wont matter if it's an AMD GPU

[unkempt niche]

Ahh okay!! Thank you 😊

[eager chasm]

B450 boards are that Ryzen 3000 compatible will work great with that CPU

Sorry to push you to AMD, but they kinda have the better deals and value

and better performance at your price point

[unkempt niche]

That’s okay i just want a good pc that is able to handle whatever i would like to do

[eager chasm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qymjn7

here is a modified list

I also might suggest a different case, that one looks like it would have intake problems in the front

[unkempt niche]

Would a bigger case do it?

[eager chasm]

no, just a case with better airflow

[unkempt niche]

Ahh alrighty :3

[eager chasm]

this case would have better airflow for about the same price

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147275?Description=ATX case&cm_re=ATX_case-_-11-147-275-_-Product

[unkempt niche]

That looks very nice! Thank you for the help

[tranquil dust]

@unkempt niche you may want a better video card

I’d recommend a 1060 ssc

[muted patio]

1660ti is faster

[tranquil dust]

Really?

[muted patio]

20%

[tranquil dust]

It’s way cheaper lol

Pretty sure I paid $400 for my 1060 sc

I actually really like that case I may buy it

[muted patio]

just one game but you get the idea

[tranquil dust]

No way

Broooo

I got ripped off

Ugh

[eager chasm]

you did, only paid $300 for my 1060 XD

[tranquil dust]

Rip me

[eager chasm]

but yea even with the 1660 the 590 is a better deal, and for the 1660 Ti the 5700 is a better deal

[unkempt niche]

I’ll look into then

[tranquil dust]

F-ing Amazon I waited 2 weeks for this card with all my other parts but here we Are with me paying $400 for a graphics card.

[eager chasm]

you might have bought it during the mining boom

[tranquil dust]

Yea

[eager chasm]

almost every GPU was crazy expensive

[tranquil dust]

September 2018

That’s when I bought it

[unkempt niche]

Majority of the items i’m listing i’ll buy them when deals are good at microcenter if it’s even there

[muted patio]

@unkempt niche 1660TI is a great GPU

if it fits the budget I'd go for it

[tranquil dust]

My friend is gonna sell me 16 gigs of ram for $30

[eager chasm]

@muted patio the 5700 out performs it in most games for the same price

[unkempt niche]

I went with this one

[tranquil dust]

It’s 3000 MHz

[muted patio]

0.o

[eager chasm]

oh wow it's even cheaper than it was ysterday

[unkempt niche]

Yesyes imagine when a deal happens

[muted patio]

that'way more than your PCPpartpicker lol

[tranquil dust]

Bro how y’all have so much money

[unkempt niche]

It’s called getting a job and save every penny you have

[tranquil dust]

I am a broke 14 yo working at Taco Bell

[unkempt niche]

I’m a junior

[muted patio]

Uh

yeah

I'm 40 and have a great job lul

[unkempt niche]

So it’s pretty easy for me to save up

Very nice

[tranquil dust]

I probably made a really bad financial decision of buying a $300 yoke for a flight simulator

[muted patio]

If all the kids only knew how many old people were in the chat

😉

[tranquil dust]

Lol

[eager chasm]

I'm 27... i feel old

[tranquil dust]

I’m 14

I feel old

But I’m not lol

Uh oh

[unkempt niche]

I’m 17

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZBPdb8

So is this a bit better

I know i extended a little bit more on my budget but i knew that would happen

[eager chasm]

I never recommend a VII, but go for it if you REALLY want it XD

[unkempt niche]

Hehehe

When you showed the results it made me want it

[muted patio]

LOL!

That wasn't the intent but ya!

[unkempt niche]

I know i’m being a little careless but i kind of want to go out on this pc

[eager chasm]

it's a good card, but at it's base $700 price it was BAD

[muted patio]

Honestly if you had $500 to spend I'd go 2070 Super

Or 5700XT but the VII is a great card too

If you Stream and Game, nVidia is better because of NVENC

It does the rendering rather than the CPU

[unkempt niche]

Yes that’s what i would mainly want to do

So do i change the gpu?

[muted patio]

If you had a processor with more threads I'd say you're OK

Because those could do the stream transcode

But I don't stream a lot so...that's just my opinion

Maybe ask others if you're going to spend $500?

[unkempt niche]

My father has the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070

But i’m not sure if he’s going to allow me to add it to my pc

[muted patio]

That would be a good option also

adnc heaper 😉

[unkempt niche]

Yes true

[foggy hazel]

@unkempt niche have a look at eposvox on youtube. Should help inform you about what you can/cannot do on different hardware. his discord is quite friendly :)

[unkempt niche]

@foggy hazel Thank you very much i’ll go look at his channel 🙂

[foggy hazel]

best of luck :)

[unkempt niche]

[daring axle]

Um i want a budget gaming pc and the max price needs to be 1000 euros and i want a sd card reader and a blu ray drive so gimme good specs so i can buy a cheap and strong pc

[tranquil dust]

@unkempt niche this guy used the case you have in your build check him out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSS1nLOM8Pg

[eager chasm]

Bluray Drive, you you are talking my language

@daring axle what part of Europe?

[unkempt niche]

I have actually changed a bit my build now

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bv3np8

I went with a bigger case and i changed it with the lian li that isn’t rgb because i’m not sure how low will the price of the rgb case will drop

[eager chasm]

dat intel

[unkempt niche]

Hehe yeah

[eager chasm]

Personally I'd put a Ryzen 7 3700X in there, but you do you 😄

[unkempt niche]

As cpu?

[polar holly]

I would agree what are you planning to use it for

[unkempt niche]

Stream/gaming/homework

[polar holly]

if you want to stream i would advise going ryzen for the thread advantange

this is what i would change https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WXq8Qq

ohh and dont buy oem windows you can find better deals

[unkempt niche]

Really?

I have heard about windows pirate or something like that

[polar holly]

nah there are alot of key sellers. check like ebay and stuff

[deep skiff]

^

[unkempt niche]

Ahh okay i thought that wasn’t allowed or something

[deep skiff]

ive bought a few and none of them have failed

[polar holly]

yeah with the buyer protection it took away the scam

no its people buy keys when they are cheap or at office auctions and sell them to make money

i do this personally since its super easy

[cursive wharf]

@unkempt niche 3700x and 2080Ti

or 2080S

cuz you have a monitor

for 2k

Also G3 isnt that great for it's price

[polar holly]

the 5700xt will push 144 at 1440p

[unkempt niche]

One of my friends on discord had said that they give him like free windows or something like that

[deep skiff]

i'd also change the ssd to a faster one, and the cpu cooler to something less overpriced https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rk3np8

[cursive wharf]

Also change RAm

bad timings

[deep skiff]

heres some white ram for cheaper https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HzwJn7

[polar holly]

just make sure if its tforce to check the motherboard to make sure they are approved

a bunch dont work to their rated speeds

also your going to want atleast 3600

[unkempt niche]

Okay

[cursive wharf]

Yeah but

3600 cl18...

[deep skiff]

you don't need at least 3600

[unkempt niche]

I am still learning how to do all these things so it will take a while

[deep skiff]

3200cl16=3600cl18 normally

[cursive wharf]

exactly

no need for overpriced 3600 when it doesnt change anything

[deep skiff]

they have the same latency

[polar holly]

With personal experience on ryzen the speed will be much harder to oc than tighthening timings

and the 3200 to 3600 is a rough 5 percent

[cursive wharf]

that depends on the memory die

Probs just do this tbh, unless you need a higher end CPU for other than streaming
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7WsrMc

cuz 2080S can do NVENC

[unkempt niche]

Oh alright then

I remember adding the T-force delta but someone has told me that that would be too much and told me to remove it

Same with the gpu

[dry tinsel]

i'm getting a hyper T2 cooler to work in the interim until i get my AIO

that's a good cooler for $25

[unkempt niche]

Yesyes

[rapid ridge]

My mom is helping me build a new computer for my birthday. She works at Intel, so she gets discounts on some of their chips. I was thinking of going for the i5-9600k (she can get it for 130). However, she wants to save money. Would it be financially/power-smart to get the i5-9400f instead (which I think she can get for about 90). I told her we shouldn’t skimp out on the chip of all things, but you guys know a bit more than I do about this whole thing.

[eager chasm]

I still never use a GPU encoder, even Nvidia, if my CPU can do all the work

[gusty bronze]

Ok, sorry to barge in but I was just referred here by an agent and I need some help :/

[eager chasm]

I love to help

[gusty bronze]

We're buying new GPUs and we need to get some PCIe power cables for the new GPUs and I'm having a hard time finding exactly what I'm being told I need because I was told that different PSU manufacturers use different connectors and cables in their PSU's and getting the wrong cable could somehow fry the supply?..

[eager chasm]

what....

[stoic island]

Does your PSU not come with cables?

[gusty bronze]

Well, they did, BUT we moved 14 hours away and didn't think to bring them :/

[stoic island]

(I'm assuming you already have a PC, and are planning to upgrade to better graphics card)

[eager chasm]

if your PSU doesn't have the cables required probably a good idea to just upgrade the PSU

[stoic island]

What company and model is your PSU?

[eager chasm]

or get custom ones

[gusty bronze]

Yes. I'm going to 5700XT and she's getting my 580 Nitro+

[eager chasm]

you should be able to get some from a place like Cable Mod

[stoic island]

Like ryoku says it could be worth upgrading PSUs

[eager chasm]

if your PSUs are modualr

[gusty bronze]

Well it has them, we just need to get extras because her current GPU doesn't use power cables at all, it gets power from mobo. We have room on our PSUs and our boxes would have the extra cables we need, we just don't have them with us currently, so I was just gonna buy more.

So is it safe to just get 2 more 8 pin cables?

[stoic island]

Like what model is your PSU? Does your current PSU support enough wattage to support a 5700xt?

[gusty bronze]

Oh yeah, I have a 750 and she has a 650

[stoic island]

So your GF and you have a modular PSU?

[gusty bronze]

Yes.

[eager chasm]

not sure where to get the kind that came with your PSU, but the plugs are usually standardized so you could buy some from Cable mod

[stoic island]

There are prob cheaper cables but cable mod is a good bet

[gusty bronze]

See, that's what I figured, since they're both modular the cables are the same, but I was told that the pinouts on PSUs could be different causing issues

Honestly, it wouldn't be an issue if I wasn't an idiot and left them behind....

I appreciate the help y'all! 😄

[eager chasm]

I keep all my spare parts in boxes near my desk at all times, so if I upgrade and need a cable or other part it's always there 🙂

[gusty bronze]

Yeah, me too. I have all my boxes of extras and goodies in my case box, but we had to keep our moving boxes to a minimum and extra PC parts weren't high on the list.

[stoic island]

(Idk if its a good idea but I store all my extra cables n stuff in my PSU box)

[gusty bronze]

^ agreed

[eager chasm]

like when I upgraded my GPU, while I COULD have just looped the second plug on the cable to the other connector, but I rather have 2 power cables

[stoic island]

I also have a plastic lil ziploc bag of screws :p

[gusty bronze]

I feel the same way.

It's like we're all the same XD

[stoic island]

Pc builders think alike

We're the 1 percent, heck prob the 0.001%

[gusty bronze]

This move really screwed us up a bit, but everything else will be down here next spring. We moved from Northern IL to Charlotte NC area...so 14 hours in 2 Imprezas, we just brought PCs and clothes :/

[eager chasm]

there is some debate between how to build a streaming RIG on here, I'm in the encoding should be done with CPU camp XD

[stoic island]

I mean it should be

[eager chasm]

others say to use Nvidia GPUs for encoding

[gusty bronze]

When you have a strong enough CPU with enough cores, why not?

That's why I went to RYZEN

[stoic island]

If you're streaming you gotta be streaming good enough footage from a good enough pc

Which meand good cpu

(Ryzen bois unite)

[polar holly]

Yeah and usually i use cpu encoding because frame rates

[gusty bronze]

^ word

I'll be getting the wife to 2000s series when taxes come in. Pretty hyped.

[eager chasm]

Sooo many people say to use the Nvidia hardware encoding and it kinda rubs me the wrong way XD

[gusty bronze]

but she has a killer AM3+ cpu, so she's not complaining, just need more GPU power. that single fan 1050Ti isn't enough

[polar holly]

if your looking 2000 series look used they get put on there

[gusty bronze]

I like warranties 😛

[polar holly]

fair

[stoic island]

Rtx 2000 series?

Or ryzen

[gusty bronze]

no no, RYZEN

[polar holly]

ryzen

[gusty bronze]

Hard pass on RTX, hence getting the 5700XT

[stoic island]

I mean 3600 could be nice alt to 2nd gen, but the prices on 2nd gen keep lowering sooo

[gusty bronze]

That's the idea. I'll be going ZEN2 after we buff hers up

I stick a bit behind to keep costs down

*typically

[stoic island]

I mean if you wait you could wait for zen3

[eager chasm]

even when using a capture card I throw all the rendering for the stream at CPU, cause 3700X is a monster stream encoder

[gusty bronze]

If they're cheaper by then, we just may @stoic island

[stoic island]

Is 4th gen ryzen q2 next year or q4

[polar holly]

true that hasu i do the same until i can workout a better way to use another desktop

q4 if i remember

[stoic island]

Ah ok

[gusty bronze]

I don't know for sure, but if i had to guess I'd say q4

[eager chasm]

well I have consoles to capture too

soo capture card is easier than emulating

[polar holly]

no i mean so i can off load the encoding

[eager chasm]

yea

[gusty bronze]

I got an Avermedia capture card, but it was right when we were getting ready to move, so i never had much of a chance to play with it.

Alright, back to buying cables...thanks again everyone!! Greatly appreciated!

[tranquil dust]

i did absolutely nothing but your welcome

[gusty bronze]

Oh also, since I didn't reply, she has a Seasonic PRIME snow silent and I have some sort of Silverstone thing

both 80+ Platinum

[eager chasm]

tomorrow is payday and the day I shop for the very last part for my sister's build, a boot SSD 😄

[gusty bronze]

Nice

[tranquil dust]

im googling how to get a pc for free

[polar holly]

enter giveaways

[old charm]

I did it (with help)

[tranquil dust]

i got results of
CL
Ebay
friends and family
and finally, dumpster diving

@polar holly

[stoic island]

partslistguy just enter givaways, I hope you get one

[dry tinsel]

@tranquil dust the easiest way is to be my friend, and be patient

this PC is going to my mom when i build the new one though

[tranquil dust]

Lol

[dry tinsel]

an i5-4590 with 32GB RAM and 2x 1TB HDs should be enough for her

[old charm]

I'm so glad I took it into my local computer shop because not only did he do ALL the wiring AND the BiOS AND install windows 10 for only like $35, but he also informed me that I installed my m.2 incorrectly and so he just installed it for me correctly for free

[still roost]

SouthPawPad#1296 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[old charm]

oh yeah i forgot im not allwed to swear lol

i think it would have messed it up if I powered it on

[dry tinsel]

nice, computer guy to the rescue

[old charm]

It cost me $107 but is was more than worth it IMO

it protected my $1,200 dollar investment

[dry tinsel]

if i have issues with my build i think i'm gonna take it to a local computer shop and have them give it the once over

[old charm]

do i have to turn the power supply off whenver I turn it off?

Yeah, I was just telling my dad it's great to have someone to "check your work" especially if you yourself aren't sure

[viral ore]

nah, you can leave the psu on

[cursive wharf]

You'll save a few cents per decade by turning the PSU off when the PC is off @old charm

So basically, dont worry about it

[dry tinsel]

even your PC running on idle

it's like an infinitesimal amount

[eager chasm]

Of my PSU is on some of my RGB items stay on, like keyboard, mousepad, mouse, & Chipset

CPU cooler, RGB strips and the GPU lights are off

[crimson whale]

Is it worth upgrading to a rx 480 to a rx 5700? Because I have two Freesync Monitor.

[eager chasm]

Depends if the performance gains are worth the price to you

Most would say yea

[crimson whale]

5700 Xt I was planning on getting. But looked at the price OMG i'm not buying a GPU costing more then a Console.

[deep skiff]

u should see rtx 2080 ti's :v

[stoic island]

I mean

Isnt the new xbox like 500 bucks

5700xt is less than that

You should also see Titan RTXs

[crimson whale]

But the New xbox is a complete package.

[deep skiff]

titans i dont really consider "normal consumer cards," but yeah those are hella hella pricey

[stoic island]

I mean consoles pure performance wise cant compare with PCs but yea

[crimson whale]

But i got to keep in mind SNES was expansive back in the day.

[eager chasm]

Thing about spending more on a computer than a console, they can do more and look better doing it 😉

[stoic island]

I just think of consoles as cheap pre builts

[crimson whale]

They are but when stuff get old they go cheaper every two to three years.

[little osprey]

The new Xbox is actually a lot more value than most consoles

It has a very good card

[stoic island]

Okay cool

[eager chasm]

not really, you can keep your PC hardware for a LONG time

[crimson whale]

Have you seen the new xbox console.

[eager chasm]

welp i'm off to bed, night

[little osprey]

The card is supposed to be comparable to a 1070

[crimson whale]

I would of called it the NX instead of Series x.

[stoic island]

I mean 1070 is still pretty bad

[little osprey]

Bruh

[stoic island]

Compared to current gen

[crimson whale]

It looks like a Trash can.

[stoic island]

Its a God damn PC

[crimson whale]

But it does look more like a box.

[little osprey]

To build a pc with a 1070 and a decent cpu I’m guessing it will be more expensive than the Xbox

[still roost]

Mr1111#1350 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Mr1111#1350 has been banned for 1 day

Reason: Too many infractions

[unban]

Banned until · Dec 20, 2019, 12:45 AM

[little osprey]

Bruh

[crimson whale]

noooo.

[little osprey]

He’s gone

Rip

[crimson whale]

He'll be back.

I would upgrade to the RX 5700 so i can future proof my Computer. But I run VR as well. That one of the reason to buy the 5700.

[teal bison]

should i get the 1650 super or the rx 590

[deep skiff]

are they the same price?

[teal bison]

the 590 is $20 more

but the price has been fluctuating a bit. I checked it like a week ago and it was $10 less than what it is now

[deep skiff]

they're about on par overall, but they both win on different games (sometimes around 15fps more)

so i'd look what games you use it for, but you also should see if its the 8gb or 4gb rx 590

[teal bison]

didnt know there was a 4 gb 590 but it is an 8gb

[deep skiff]

the 590 is slightly faster, but i'd go with the 1650 super at 1080p, but at 1440p the rx 590 edges out with the vram size increase

[teal bison]

ok thanks for the advice

[deep skiff]

but rx 590's have a very strong used market, you can pick one for under 170

[teal bison]

i mean thats only 10 less than new

[deep skiff]

or on r/hardwareswap you can get them for under 150

like here's one for $135 https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/eatyq8/usatxh_xfx_rx_590_fatboy_8gb_w_paypal_local_cash/

[teal bison]

cool didnt know about that subreddit ill have to check it out

[deep skiff]

yeah its a pretty large used market, lots of good deals

[cursive wharf]

PSU isn't good

@deep skiff @teal bison tbh get a used 580 for $100 and OC. After all a 590 is just an OCed 580

[deep skiff]

yeah

135 for a 590 isnt really a bad price, but yeah its just an oc'd 580 which is just an oc'd 480 :/

[silver meteor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/38PWcq
Final Final build, + x5 Noctua fans.

Thoughts

[cursive wharf]

Get the 3700x and a cpu cooler, 970 Evo is overpriced, get the 1tb Mishkin Pilot. Get 1440p 144Hz as your system is capable of doing that

[silver meteor]

@cursive wharf got the 3800x for 250, got Evo on sale too, wtf is a mishkin Pilot, no 1440p since I’m competitive and I want to max my frames out

Ye

[cursive wharf]

About $105 for 1tb NVMe instead of $200 for 1tb, or $95 for 500GB

[silver meteor]

Ah oki my bad

[cursive wharf]

Pilot is just a cheap and decent NVMe

[silver meteor]

Too late since again this is my final build, but overall would you say it’s a solid build? I heard the Prism is an amazing cooler for a stock

[cursive wharf]

As with most of AMDs coolers, good stock coolers but meh coolers overall

[silver meteor]

Mhm

I don’t need to OC

So

I’m expecting I’ll be fine

[cursive wharf]

Well it will be louder than a good cooler

[silver meteor]

My other thing:

[cursive wharf]

Don't know by how much tho

[silver meteor]

I’ll have to use x264 to record, is it a lot worse than NVENC

And yeah it’ll be a little bit louder but overall decent performance

And looks nice too

[cursive wharf]

X264 is still the same basically. Tho CPU heavy games like BF5 may have some issues with an 8c CPU while streaming. Can't be sure tho

[silver meteor]

I’m gonna be recording Competitive Fortnite (much more demanding than people think in end game) will I be okay

I mean you might not know, I just want to make sure

[cursive wharf]

Haven't played FT in quite a while so idk how demanding it is with high settings and such

[peak pilot]

Hello

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q2tYdm , can someone tell me if this is okay for a 1500 price range pc. (First build so I'm new)

[cursive wharf]

CPU cooler is overpriced, SSD overpriced, bad RAM, case has little airflow, PSU isn't that great, and GPU can be a 5700XT which is better than a 2060S

[jaunty karma]

@cursive wharf

what part should i upgrade for streaming?

[viral ore]

depends on what you have now

[cursive wharf]

^

[jaunty karma]

a320-s2h

rx 570

ryzen 5 2600

DE500v2 80+

8gb 266 mhz

2666*

[viral ore]

do you have 2x4gb, or 1x8gb of ram?

[jaunty karma]

1x8

[viral ore]

well, i would definitely suggest another stick of 8gb, and not only for streaming reasons

the cpu is good

if you have the budget for it, that gpu could use an upgrade

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ayyiwakeup/saved/

[jaunty karma]

oki doki

[little osprey]

how is this

[viral ore]

an Nvidia card would be best

for streaming

[jaunty karma]

well i have no budget for an nvidia card

[viral ore]

well, the ram upgrade is a helpful start

then, when you see a 1660ti go on sale, nab it

[stray idol]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HXvt3t

Thoughts?

[viral ore]

yeah, get the 3600 non X

[warped moat]

It’s on sale

[viral ore]

the psu is overkill, you should be fine with a 550w

[warped moat]

For the same price as a 3600

[viral ore]

o really?

that makes it worth it

[warped moat]

If you get it while it’s on sale now it’ll be a good deal

[viral ore]

anyway, a 550w 80+ gold is good enough

[silver meteor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/38PWcq
Final Final build, + x5 Noctua fans.

There

[eager chasm]

Looks nice

Oh hey, I know that sceptre 165Hz monitor

[little osprey]

final build, updated mobo and psu for future upgrades

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ayyiwakeup/saved/

[elfin remnant]

Can i get a pair of experienced eyes on my build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jGnBq3

[viral ore]

any particular reason for the 2700x on x570?

instead of just going straight for the 3600x?

you could do with a 550w or greater PSU, unless you want to overclock

3600x is on sale rn, its only 199

[elfin remnant]

damn, idk if new egg will take back my 2700x

[viral ore]

oof

[elfin remnant]

Oh well, ill just sell it on ebay, and pick up a 3600x

[viral ore]

how long ago did you order it

[elfin remnant]

about 18 days ago, still unopened

[cursive wharf]

@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7tkrMc

[viral ore]

well, idk, i think you can just return items if you never opened them

you may have to pay return shipping

idrk

ask @fresh garden

[wild briar]

ya 3600x and i5 9600k are both 200 rn and are both very good personally id go i5 for strictly gaming and r5 for gaming plus anything else https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-9600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600X/4031vs4041

[viral ore]

stick with the 3600x

[faint steeple]

don't use userbenchmark

[viral ore]

those extra 6 threads are helpful, even if they arent as powerful as normal cores

[cursive wharf]

@stray idol cpu cooler overpriced, mobo sucks for price, get SATA SSD with 2x more storage for the same price, case has bad airflow, PSU is overkill

@wild briar I5 already sees a bad 1% low despite higher average framerate

basically, worse gaming experience with Intel, which will continue to grow worse in the future

[viral ore]

is 14nm+++ a coffee lake refresh?

10th gen

or is it its own thing

[vivid atlas]

Could someone mind doing a pcpartpicker build for me ? All Amazon with ATX motherboard and 16GB of ram are all I really need, I’m planning to game on it I have a 700 dollar budget. Ping me !

[wild briar]

@cursive wharf depends on the game

[viral ore]

why ATX motherboard?

whats wrong with micro itx

[vivid atlas]

I would prefer ATX because I need 4 ram slots, ryzen 3rd gen compatibility, more space between components, more pcie slots

[viral ore]

so your doing more than just gaming?

[vivid atlas]

Also I already have an ATX case so why not use it with an ATX mobo

[viral ore]

also, what case?

[vivid atlas]

Humm... I’ m actually a rookie in this PC building domain

I will be producing music and gaming

And my case is a Phanteks Evolv X

[viral ore]

if you needed more pcie slots, it sounds like you need to support lots of interface cards

[vivid atlas]

Actually if M-Atx can do the job I really don’t mind buying one

[viral ore]

this is more important than just motherboard size btw, it has to do whether to put the budget more towards the cpu or gpu

[vivid atlas]

Some friends recommended me an ATX motherboard for future upgrades but that’s about it

[viral ore]

the physical size is mostly irrelevant

its all about what you need in a pc

so you need an x16 pcie slot for your gpu, do you know if you need any other expansion cards?

[polar holly]

The other thing is the amount of ram expansion.

[vivid atlas]

What do PCIe slots do exactly ? What are they used for ?

[viral ore]

you put expansion cards in them

like a sound card

or a gpu

[dark hearth]

^

[viral ore]

or serial ports

[vivid atlas]

I have strictly no knowledge on PC building, just watched some videos and asked some friends about it

[viral ore]

or extra usb

oh ok

[glacial meteor]

If Intel doesn't get something right by 2021, AMD will start to take up almost all its market when comes to gaming. 😛

[dark hearth]

I mean, pretty much basics for PCIe slots for gamers = for a GPU

[vivid atlas]

Well I guess all I need is a GPU

For now at least

[dark hearth]

yeah, AMD is doing pretty well

They stepped their game up so much

[vivid atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/33xKq3

I did this budget build with one of my friends

[dark hearth]

Hmm this is fine

[vivid atlas]

800 dollars including a 144hz monitor and excluding a case

[dark hearth]

Uhh

[vivid atlas]

Would be ideal

[dark hearth]

If you can find a bundle

Im not sure if you live near a microcenter

Or something like that

They bundle CPU's and mobos

I got my b450 tomahawk and amd ryzen 7 2700x for like 210?

[vivid atlas]

By the way, I live on the other side of the planet so if I could buy all online on the same website with less possible shipping fees it would be fantastic

Yeah, unfortunately no Micro Centers near me

Heard they had great deals

[dark hearth]

o

That's a big rip 😦

I just came back from one just now

It's like PC building heaven imo

[vivid atlas]

Yup 😂

[dark hearth]

So is newegg's wearhouse. I've been inside one

Nerdgasm

But yeah, it seems fine

[vivid atlas]

I live in South Korea to be exact

[dark hearth]

You were using this for gaming?

[vivid atlas]

Gaming and producing music

[dark hearth]

Oof

[eager chasm]

I've been in PC hell, the basement of a repair shop, where machines go to die

[vivid atlas]

Ahah

[dark hearth]

oh, then i've been in PC heaven

Where machines are built

:^)

I'd say it's fine, idk, i might spend slightly more on the mobo

or CPU

GPU, a 590 is perfectly fine

[eager chasm]

So many people abandon their machines at repair shops...

[dark hearth]

Yeah they do

I wish i coould just take their parts LOL

[cursive wharf]

@vivid atlas bad PSU

[vivid atlas]

Oh yeah

[dark hearth]

Yeah, but i mean

i guess you can spend 20 dollars more and get an 80+ gold

[cursive wharf]

Thermaltake SMART sucks, no protections and such

[vivid atlas]

Choosing A PSU has been such a struggle

[cursive wharf]

Just get Corsair CX

[eager chasm]

@dark hearth you can if in your repair shop agreement you say if after so long the machine is considered abandoned

[vivid atlas]

I heard semi or even full modular are good for cable management too

[cursive wharf]

It isnt dangerous like Thermaltake SMART is

[dark hearth]

😮 @eager chasm that's cool

[cursive wharf]

Also get a 1650S for cheaper

[vivid atlas]

I wouldn’t want my PSU to burn/ blow up rightafter buying it

[cursive wharf]

instead of 590

[vivid atlas]

Okay

[eager chasm]

One person came in like 6 months late and wanted their PC back... We don't keep abandoned machines that long

[dark hearth]

@cursive wharf What do you think about Rosewill PSU's?

[eager chasm]

I have a Rosewill 750 gold

[vivid atlas]

I heard Rosewill ones are dangerous

[cursive wharf]

Some of their cheap ones are dangerous

[vivid atlas]

Well some are

[cursive wharf]

their higher end are usually meh

[dark hearth]

https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-photon-series-photon-1050-continuous-1050w-40-degrees-celsius/p/N82E16817182325

[eager chasm]

The Rosewill Photon 750w Gold is good, but it's not sold anymore

[cursive wharf]

no, photon is meh, but 1050w of that PSU is bad

[dark hearth]

just curious, did PSU prices go up?

I got my EVGA gq 650w gold for like 70 bucks at the time which was in July

[eager chasm]

I've had no problems with my Rosewill

[dark hearth]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-650-g5-220-g5-0650-x1-650w/p/N82E16817438163

It's 99.99 USD

[cursive wharf]

G5 sucks for price

So does G3

[dark hearth]

Wanna recommend one then? XD

[vivid atlas]

Completely different domain, but is the MSI X470 gaming plus mobo better than the b450 tomahawk ?

[dark hearth]

yes