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gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:41 AM

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Getting the pc, as you mentioned, is a want ; not a need

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Itll be a like a short term high

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:41 AM

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Yup

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:41 AM

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itll subside as part of my everyday life

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:41 AM

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Well, a car will do the same thing lol

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:41 AM

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True

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:41 AM

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to be honest lol

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:42 AM

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but i wont be have to be a burden

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bluntly speaking

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:42 AM

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But car also requires extra money for gas, insurance, repairs, etc

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:42 AM

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Thats true.

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:42 AM

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so that has to be factored in. If the car can't be afforded from that aspect, mebbe a PC now and a car later

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:42 AM

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I agree with that

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:42 AM

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Lots to think about

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:42 AM

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yeah

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sucks to be a college student ahha

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:43 AM

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Oh not really. Someday you'll wish you were in college again

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:43 AM

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Thank you though. I think i really needed to talk this out logically

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:43 AM

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Welcome!

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:43 AM

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Damn

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I can see that. I felt the same way leaving highschool

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And thank you man, I appreciate it.

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Hmm

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:44 AM

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Welcome!

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:44 AM

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i guess pc now

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car later

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:44 AM

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I mean, with Uber, Lyft, Jump Bikes, Lime bikes

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public transport

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getting around is cheap in a college town

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Cars can be expensive, parking, fuel, insurance, repairs, etc

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but FREEDOM

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heh

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:45 AM

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Thats true yeah

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but itll be alright

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with my current environment

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i can get around via car pooling

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:47 AM

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The other option is to find a slightly used PC on the secondary market

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:47 AM

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Thats true

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:47 AM

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That Demonmit guy goes to /r hardware and finds screaming deals

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How, I dunno

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 4:47 AM

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lol

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:47 AM

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Go check out tech deals

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it's not blazing fast stuff but man,

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:48 AM

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Okay lemme check it out

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:48 AM

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i5 8400 with mobo for $160

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 4:49 AM

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10900X ... Intel... what are you doing...

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:49 AM

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makiing bigger numbers to sound better lol

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:49 AM

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I dont know what that means

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psychological effect idk

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 4:51 AM

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X is usually an AMD skew identifier

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StaffSpookUBloodyWotM8

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:51 AM

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Im no longer following

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:51 AM

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Intel is all over the place

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F, K, S, X, lulz

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 4:52 AM

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Ryzen 7 3700X < the X means it's better

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lol

wraith birch Dec 16, 2019, 4:52 AM

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X is usually a protocol used by Linux

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Oh yeah

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Just slightly better

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From what i read

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prime example 3600 vs 3600x

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Every time I see X I think slightly more performance for a lot more dollars

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 4:53 AM

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6300z?

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StaffSpookUBloodyWotM8

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lol

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:53 AM

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i agree bek

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sure hsbdbmsndn

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Anyways

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we kinda deviated from the original convo

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So uh

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what kind of cooling

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You said the mugen 5

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:54 AM

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ya

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 4:54 AM

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when I see 3700X i think, "oooo world's fanciest stock cooler"

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:54 AM

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with RGB fans of your choice

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:54 AM

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Oh wait

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u meaan

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like mix it up

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just like 1 Mugen 5

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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I mean get the cooler, and since it's not RGB, get your RGB fans for it

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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And the rest can be something else

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im lost

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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Take the stock fans off and put RGB fans on

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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oh

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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They're just 120mm fans

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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Like literally

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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yes

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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unscrew then screw in Rbg fans

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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I think they clip on and off but yeah

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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Ah same idea

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Prism is the best stock cooler, change my mind.

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:56 AM

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It's a good stock cooler that is outperformed by basic aftermarket options, yes

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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Wait

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time out

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so the mugen

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Where would i put this

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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ON the CPU

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Same as the Hyper 212

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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Wait

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but my Ryzen 5 3600x comes with the spire

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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Yesa

minor bramble Dec 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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Would a 500 gb ssd be good enough for a mid end gaming pc?

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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you had a Hyper 212 on your list though

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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so you want me to yeet the spire

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Oh that was extra stuff

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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LOL

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 4:58 AM

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the spire is enough for it at stock if you want to use it

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Well heck, if you didn't want the 212 just use the spire

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:58 AM

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So we gucci

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?

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Just use the spire

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Yeah, just don't try and overclock with it

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Oh dw

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i dont plan on doing thay

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 4:58 AM

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since 3rd gen Ryzen run cooler than the 2nd gen the stock coolers are even better on them

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:58 AM

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too complicated for me

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:58 AM

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SO yeet the 212 and the Mugen lol

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Okay

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sounds good

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Personal experience with the stock Prism. It's OK. And just OK.

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:59 AM

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okay so ngl

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 4:59 AM

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personal experience with the prism, it's amazing keeps my boost up at all times even under load

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 4:59 AM

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The mugen 5 pcgh sounds nice

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4-14.5 total dB produced

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:00 AM

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MIne wouldn't do that, although I got mine before the ABBA update which helped with temps

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Remember that noise rating only applies with the fans installed

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That will change if you change the fans

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:00 AM

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i'm also using really good paste with good thermal conduction

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cause screw stock paste

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:01 AM

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I use MX4

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Nothing terribly fancy

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Hmm

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okay

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So

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Stick with the spire?

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like would it be substantial

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:01 AM

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spire is fine

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:02 AM

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It's fine unless you're going to overclock

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:02 AM

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the older copper core spire would be better, but non-copper core is fine

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:02 AM

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uh

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ic

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Idk which one i get

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with my 3600x

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:03 AM

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copper core was for 1st gen ryzen

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they cheaped out on the spire since then

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:03 AM

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Okay

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so not as good as before

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but substantial

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:04 AM

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but still good enough

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:04 AM

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for my 319 Average Wattage build

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okay

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:05 AM

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🤔 I think I know why my new case has better temps, the front fans are FAR less obstructed

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much more fresh air getting in

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anywhere between 2 and 15 C better temps XD

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:08 AM

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Hm

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Would a all black inside

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with a white border on the case

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work

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:08 AM

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what?

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:08 AM

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Alright so

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inside the Case, The Mobo, gpu, cpu, ram will be black

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Outside of the case is white

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will it still work or nah

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:09 AM

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color is whatever you think looks good, no one can tell you how to color coordinate your PC, that's personal preference

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:10 AM

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HmMMmMm

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i just wanna wow people

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but

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Maybe im overthinking this

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:11 AM

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again that's subjective mostly

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 5:11 AM

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ahem

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RGB

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https://tenor.com/view/rgb-rgb-intensifies-intensifies-intense-corsair-rgb-gif-13433637

Tenor

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:12 AM

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Damn

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:12 AM

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some people will look at my all purple lighting and think WOW, some will think it's ugly

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it's all subjective personal preference for looks, do what you like

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(honestly if you think all purple lights are ugly, sure, OK boomer)

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StaffSpookSmugLaugh

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:14 AM

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Hey guys

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I need some advice

native nexus Dec 16, 2019, 5:15 AM

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?

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:15 AM

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did you try pressing "Free Zoltar"?

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StaffSpookSmugLaugh

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:16 AM

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So basically I’m building a new PC this Xmas and I’m using the stock Prism cooler on my CPU because I heard it you don’t OC the thermals are fine. I’m also getting the NZXT H510 case and I just hear the thermals are so bad that it’s good to get an AIO but I don’t have the budget for it

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Any tips

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:16 AM

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what CPU?

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2700X or 3700X?

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:17 AM

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3800x

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:17 AM

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AH

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:17 AM

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I got it when it was going for a better price tHan even the 3700x

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I got it for 250

soft walrus Dec 16, 2019, 5:17 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BNXVFG

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:18 AM

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I'd consider a different case than the 510

soft walrus Dec 16, 2019, 5:18 AM

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what do you guys think about that build

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:18 AM

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I already have it @muted patio

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:18 AM

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with a good paste the Prism is fine, but case airflow is VERY important

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:18 AM

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Oh well then

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Fan configuration is important

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:18 AM

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^ that too

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:18 AM

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@eager chasm yeah I know and the Case I got comes with 2 stock fans

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:18 AM

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I'd go 140mm in the front x2

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rear and top exhaust 120mm

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:18 AM

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But I can’t buy any other fans

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:19 AM

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why

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:19 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Bearing-Computer-ROCF-13001-Standard/dp/B00KB8CB9O/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=rosewill+case+fan&qid=1576473553&sr=8-3

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Fans are cheap. Like, $5 each?

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:19 AM

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@muted patio like literally I have no more budget

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:19 AM

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I use this 4 pack of 120s and they work well enough

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only $20 get them next paycheck

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:20 AM

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But for now

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Will my thermals be okay

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2070S

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:21 AM

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if you aren't rendering 1 hour videos sure

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:21 AM

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@soft walrus for another $20 you can get a 1TB NVME drdive

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https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Rocket-Internal-Performance-SB-ROCKET-1TB/dp/B07LGF54XR/ref=asc_df_B07LGF54XR/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=320048880417&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9106854379699900053&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033547&hvtargid=pla-618574262863&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=61389685902&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=320048880417&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9106854379699900053&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033547&hvtargid=pla-618574262863

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:21 AM

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I’m literally gonna be streaming Fortnite and Overwatch

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Soo

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:21 AM

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and I'd go 3200 mhz on the ram if you can

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:21 AM

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I think with what I’m doing

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My thermals

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Are gonna be aight

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:21 AM

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welp I'm off to work, night

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:21 AM

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For like a month

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Night Ryoku

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:21 AM

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Oh, streaming. what gpu?

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:22 AM

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@muted patio 2070S

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But mainly Fortnite Soo

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Lmao

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:22 AM

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Well, you're going to be using NVENC right?

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:22 AM

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Yes

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:22 AM

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really with that CPU you could use Software encoding on the stream

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:22 AM

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That’s the setting right

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:22 AM

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Still, you really need to get 4 total case fans as soon as possible

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:22 AM

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Okay

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:22 AM

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because both of those make a lot of heat

still roostBOT Dec 16, 2019, 5:22 AM

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OS Elmo#6969 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:22 AM

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and you need to get rid of it

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:22 AM

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I can go 1 month I think

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Maybe less

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It depends

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:23 AM

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It's not lilke things will explode or die or burn

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Aight

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:23 AM

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But it should be done, make sense?

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Yeah

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Thank you

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https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Bearing-Computer-ROCF-13001-Standard/dp/B00KB8CB9O/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=rosewill+case+fan&qid=1576473553&sr=8-3

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Those are ok?

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:23 AM

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@eager chasm purple is nice.

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Shoot, you could even run with the side panel off for a while if things got hot

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:23 AM

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I can get my team to donate me money

soft walrus Dec 16, 2019, 5:23 AM

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so the ryzen 3600x is 4th gen but the mobo is only updated for gen 3

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:23 AM

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To be able to afford it

soft walrus Dec 16, 2019, 5:23 AM

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what do i do?

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:24 AM

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@soft walrus it’s 3rd gen

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:24 AM

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Ya, hence the 3 in 3600

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:24 AM

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4th gen Ryzen isn’t out

soft walrus Dec 16, 2019, 5:24 AM

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aejouguiboagobae

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nvm

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 5:24 AM

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Ahahaha

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:24 AM

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It'll work but ideally you'd get an X570 board to take advantage of PCIE gen 4

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:24 AM

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Anyway Bekora my team can probably help chip in 20 bucks, is this good:

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https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Bearing-Computer-ROCF-13001-Standard/dp/B00KB8CB9O/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=rosewill+case+fan&qid=1576473553&sr=8-3

soft walrus Dec 16, 2019, 5:24 AM

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it says there is incompatibility

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that i have to update the mobo

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:24 AM

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Yeah, the B450 may not have the BIOS flashed for 3rd gen but it should

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Yeah, those fans are fine

soft walrus Dec 16, 2019, 5:25 AM

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so i shouldnt worry about it?

jaunty nacelle Dec 16, 2019, 5:25 AM

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whats a good $2000 pc build with a ryzen 9 3900x or an intel i9 9900k

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Thank you

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@jaunty nacelle depends on your needs

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:26 AM

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I honestly can't comment about the motherboard

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:26 AM

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Tbh

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:26 AM

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I went X570

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and for $150

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I'd recommend the ASUS TUF Gaming X570

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Literally no reason not to get X570 with a 3000 cpu

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:27 AM

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I got MSI X570

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@muted patio idk how long it’ll be. Maybe I can find some temporary solution? Any ideas?

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:28 AM

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If your componentsget hot, remove the side panel

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until you get fans

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:28 AM

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Okay

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And then it dust gathers use compressed air?

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:28 AM

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Which one would you recommend? NZXT H510 Elite ATX mid tower? Or the Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid tower?

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:28 AM

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Ya

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Meshify C

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:28 AM

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How so

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:29 AM

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Oh, that's the 510 elite

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:29 AM

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Yeah

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the H510 Elite looks slick

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Poor airflow though

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Maybe my dad has some extra fans lying around

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I’ll check

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Fractal has a mesh front

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NZXT has a few holes on the side

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:30 AM

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True, but cant you just attach a fan on the top

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 5:31 AM

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What should i upgrade psu or storage?

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:31 AM

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So you have 2 fans going in 2 fans going out

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:31 AM

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Yeah but the intake grill is sooooo tiny

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It's that small strip of holes on the side

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:31 AM

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Thats the front though

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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Ya. It's not enough

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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bummer

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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Heat rises, don't use the top for an intake

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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Its a sick case though

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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PSU or storage?

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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then how about using that fan on the top to push out air

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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Unless your PSU is blown up, storage

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To push air out, you have to also push air in

soft walrus Dec 16, 2019, 5:33 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dRJBq3
is that too much?

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:33 AM

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ok fair enough

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So then lets talk about the Meshify c

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I dont think it comes with any fans

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:33 AM

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One intake, one exhaust

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:34 AM

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But is that enougj

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 5:34 AM

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yeah 2 1500rpm 120mm fans

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 5:34 AM

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No, I'd add at least two more fans

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One at the front and one at the top, maybe two front and one top

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 5:34 AM

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depends what you put in it, but i ended up with 5 fans in mine

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so basically bought 4x140mm fans

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:35 AM

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Damn

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you see

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 5:36 AM

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i could probably get rid of one at the top, just have two front one top

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:36 AM

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Im eyeing the corsair H100i RBG Platinum Liqui-

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 5:36 AM

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the 5th one is just there for RGB really lol

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:36 AM

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Oh wait this is liquid

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 5:36 AM

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What should i upgrade first RAM or motherboard?

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:36 AM

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Wait isnt that the Jimmies have been rustled Gorilla @indigo thicket

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 5:37 AM

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yes

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:37 AM

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Damn its been years

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Im dumb

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but why do liquid coolers have fans

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 5:41 AM

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to cool off the liquid

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:41 AM

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Of course

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 5:41 AM

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the liquid just carries heat away from the CPU but you still have to cool the liquid back down to ambient in the radiator before it gets pumped back into the CPU

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Ah

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Makes sense

nimble parcel Dec 16, 2019, 5:43 AM

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hey is the XFX Redeon RX 570 4GB RS XXX still good?

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 5:46 AM

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What are some good RBG cooling fans

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Maybe the ones that come in packs

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Waitttt

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Do i need case fans or

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Im sped

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Ive been looking at cpu coolers instead of case coolers

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:01 AM

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Case fans go on CPU coolers

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Usually

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:02 AM

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wait what

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:02 AM

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Some coolers have fans pre-installed or just part of the cooler

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:02 AM

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Im still lost

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Basically fans are fans

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XD

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:03 AM

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okay

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so

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Wait

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i could

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theoretically use a pc cooler as a case fan

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right

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but why would i do thay

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:03 AM

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No I'm saying the fans on the coolers are usually the same as case fans

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:04 AM

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okay

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:04 AM

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If you want fans for your case just get a pack of the ones you want

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:06 AM

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I was about to do that

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:06 AM

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Most case fans are good enough, even the bargain find ones

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:06 AM

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How many fans would i need for my build

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VPP8Qq

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Just a refresher

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of what it is

muted patio Dec 16, 2019, 6:07 AM

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The case comes with two. So at least two more for a total of 4

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:07 AM

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Personally I like 2 in the front, 2 in top, and 1 in back

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But 1 in top works well too

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:08 AM

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So uh

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atleast 4

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or 5

#

we can agree on that right

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:09 AM

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Yay the computer at work seems too FINALLY have died

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:10 AM

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das lit

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Personal opinion

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im going with the meshofy

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But the fact that i might get corsair rbg fans

still roostBOT Dec 16, 2019, 6:11 AM

#

Sung Hyun Yu#0879 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Actually, imma just ignore the fact that im cross branding

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:12 AM

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Brand matching it's stupid anyway XD

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:12 AM

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Yeah

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itss gonna be impossible

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i just dont have that type of money

#

I still cant decide though

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Meshify C Tinted Tempered glass

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:13 AM

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RGB case fans might be my tax return buy

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:13 AM

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Or just the regular Black tempered glass

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Lmao

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Yikes,

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Taxes

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:14 AM

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Hey doing taxes is nice when you get $1000 back lol

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:16 AM

#

I guess

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oh yeah

#

Im kinda tied

#

How much airflow do i want from these fans

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Theres one by corsair, 24.8 dB, 43.25 CFM, and 600-1500 rpm

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Or the other corsair one: 36 dB, 63 CFM, 2200 RPM

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Both selections have 3 fans

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and a controller for rbbg

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rbg

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:18 AM

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You are over thinking the air flow XD

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:18 AM

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I just dont wanna cheap out on Air flow

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:(

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:19 AM

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Even bargain bin fans are enough, trust me, I use them

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:21 AM

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Okay

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So uh

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:21 AM

#

It's more about the Case's airflow

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:21 AM

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Okay

#

But as we discussed

#

the Airflow for the meshify c is good

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So were gucci

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:21 AM

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SipCiv

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:21 AM

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right

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:21 AM

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Hi theo

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:22 AM

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meshify c wont fit a typical radiator + fans if your mobo has large VRMs

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well top mounting

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:22 AM

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im too dumb to understand

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would you like to take a look at my list instead?

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:22 AM

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yes

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:22 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VPP8Qq

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:22 AM

#

oh

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you'll be fine

#

wait

#

why do you have 3200 and 3600 ram

#

what

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Lol

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Uh 2 adjustments: Yeah... Remove the 3600, and the coolmaster 212

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I gotta get the new and updated link

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:23 AM

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meshify c is a beast at aircooling if you get great static pressure fans for the front.

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:24 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7PxTMc

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There we go

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Ah

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whats a good static pressure fan

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:25 AM

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anything with wide/large fin blades and little space inbetween

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:25 AM

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Noctua NH-P14 is the king, but fractal has a really good one too

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:25 AM

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Looking at my old case like 80% of the front fans are obstructed by metal and it only has some small cut outs for air flow

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I should have upgraded my case long ago XD

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:26 AM

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Im too dumb for this. Sorry theo

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:26 AM

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i upgraded my case and case fans

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:26 AM

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And can u link me which ones Anni

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:26 AM

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📎 Static-pressure-vs-Airflow.jpg

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if it looks like the left its fine

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those are type you want to push air through small holes or filters

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:27 AM

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You see

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I understand now

#

but i cant tell from this

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:27 AM

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📎 20191210_232951.jpg

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ASPikaDab

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:27 AM

#

oo thats pretty

#

How about these fans

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XWrpK4

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Do they fit the bill

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:28 AM

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LL120 in your list are the same on my case i just showed you

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but they are expensive

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:28 AM

#

oh.

#

So uh

#

would i be fine with these fans then

#

And should i keep the GP-12 fans rhat come with the meshify c

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:29 AM

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yes

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:30 AM

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i mean.... if you have the money and a free usb slot on your internal motherboard to program them then yeah

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:30 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/fractal-design-fd-fan-dyn-gp14-bk-case-fan/p/N82E16835352019 for the record if you want more they're right here (just click 120mm for the ones you have)

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:31 AM

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Don't mind me I'll be over here with my with my rosewill black DC fans...

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:31 AM

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hahaha

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:31 AM

#

NPCPainterSip

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:31 AM

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SquirtleSanta

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:31 AM

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at one point i had apevia fans in my case, that was years ago though when the fans were powered by molex connectors

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:33 AM

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corsair is so weird with their fans, they don't sell them as airflow or static pressure, but the black LL120s are 1500rpm fans up to 1.5mm-H2O and the white LL120s are 2200rpm fans up to 3mm-H2O pressure

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:33 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nf-f12-pwm-case-fan/p/N82E16835608026?Item=N82E16835608026&Description=noctua&cm_re=noctua-_-35-608-026-_-Product

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:33 AM

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yeah

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:33 AM

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it's too bad you can't find the NF-P12 anymore

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:33 AM

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the white ones are noisy

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:34 AM

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those were very pressure optimized

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:34 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-F12-chromax-Black-swap-Premium-Grade-Quiet/dp/B07654PNFQ

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:34 AM

#

But are they worth it

#

or am i better off with the triple black

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:34 AM

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they push a LOTTTTTTTTTTT of air

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:34 AM

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damn those noctuas are hella efficient

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:34 AM

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brown and beige i always thought contributed to the overall appearance

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:34 AM

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2.61mm-H2O at only 1500rpm

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:35 AM

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it makes it look "premium" because it's associated with noctua

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:35 AM

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Despite having most of the bottom front blocked by the Drive cage it's still far better flow than my old one

📎 IMG_20191214_163422.jpg

coarse coral Dec 16, 2019, 6:35 AM

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im going to bed

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Squirtlebounce

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:35 AM

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Good night

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:35 AM

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Night

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:35 AM

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thatss me rn

#

but back to what i was saying

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:35 AM

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if only there were high performance fans that looked as good as corsair LL ones

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:36 AM

#

how loud is 36 dB

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:36 AM

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loud af

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:36 AM

#

oh

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but it pushes out so much air

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 6:36 AM

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BROO

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:36 AM

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bearable though

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:36 AM

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hmm

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:36 AM

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like laptop fan level noise i guess

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 6:36 AM

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I’m getting concerned so much rn

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:36 AM

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?

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 6:36 AM

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About my thermals with just the NZXT stock fans

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:36 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/1YF-000T-002H0 these are my favorite

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:37 AM

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@silver meteor if it's not over 85 it's probably fine for now

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 6:37 AM

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Oki

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Thanks

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:37 AM

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What temps are you getting?

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 6:38 AM

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Haven’t built yet

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Sorry

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:38 AM

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Oh lol

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 6:39 AM

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lol

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I just don’t want my temps to be so bad I can’t ya sit

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Use it

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:40 AM

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Oh wait quick question

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 6:40 AM

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Ye

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:40 AM

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so you know how the corsair fans i was debating about

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 6:40 AM

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Nvm sorry

#

Lol

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:40 AM

#

the triple pack black ones

#

its aall g

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:40 AM

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Amazing how much you can learn about air flow just swapping cases on a high end build

#

Blobcat_Derp

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:40 AM

#

Do they individually have 1.61 mm of static pressure

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Or together as 3 have 1.61 mm

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:41 AM

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each one

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:41 AM

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Thats litt

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:41 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nf-a14-pwm-case-fan/p/N82E16835608044 i will eventually buy two of these for the front of my case

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:41 AM

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well, also all 3

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:41 AM

#

Okay then im fine

#

Wait what

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:41 AM

#

it's the same thing

#

the CFM just adds up

#

the static pressure is the same for each one

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:41 AM

#

oh

#

So technucally 43.25 × 3

#

having 3

#

for cfm

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:42 AM

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yeah basically

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:43 AM

#

Damn... The work PC turned on... I hate using a Dell Optiplex 3020M

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:43 AM

#

hmm ic

#

So then ill have 5 fans

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 6:45 AM

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I’m gonna have 2 :(

#

Lmfao

#

2 monitors 2 fans

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:45 AM

#

i don't actually know how they rate fans, because flow vs pressure is a curve, the more pressure you make a fan overcome the less flow it produces.

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:45 AM

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i have 2 now, i'll get some noctuas and have 3 later

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:45 AM

#

3 LL120 RBG (43.25 CFM, 1.61mm) and 2 X2 GP-12 fans

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:45 AM

#

YAY! The Dell Optiplex is DEAD!

#

bunnyhype

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:45 AM

#

does anyone know how they come up with the rating they give them?

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 6:45 AM

#

@dry tinsel you also have two fans! Yay I’m not alone

#

Yayyy

#

#BadThermals Gang

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:45 AM

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1x140mm up front, 1x120mm in back

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:46 AM

#

damn

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 6:46 AM

#

Nice

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:46 AM

#

it's an ITX case

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 6:46 AM

#

What specs?

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:46 AM

#

wait so the meshify can have up to 240mm

#

for the fans

#

right

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 6:46 AM

#

@dry tinsel

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:46 AM

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PC is not built yet

silver meteor Dec 16, 2019, 6:46 AM

#

Oh oki

#

What specs will it have

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:46 AM

#

meshify can fit up to 240 on top, or 280/360 in front

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:46 AM

#

i can try to build the final PC in pcpartpicker

#

but brb

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:46 AM

#

oh thats lit

#

should i go for a 240mm fan on top

#

Wait actually

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:47 AM

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you have to remove a panel to get 360mm of fans in the front though

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:47 AM

#

before that

#

oh

#

in order to fit 3?

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:47 AM

#

yeah

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:47 AM

#

Okay

#

Wait so the case sayss that i can fit up to 7

#

Idk how

#

1 in the back, 3 front, 2-3 top?

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:48 AM

#

you can take the drive bay out to put one on the bottom

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:48 AM

#

But is that recommended

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:48 AM

#

7 would be 3 in front, 1 on bottom, 2 on top, 1 in back

#

nah i tried the one on bottom it sucks

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:48 AM

#

i see

still roostBOT Dec 16, 2019, 6:48 AM

#

Keegan#2839 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:48 AM

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it just messed with the flow of the front fans

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:48 AM

#

Ill stick with 6 fans max

#

Oh

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:48 AM

#

and it couldn't get any air in the bottom anyway

#

i have it set to 0rpm now and i get the same temps when running benchmarks as with it at 800rpm, and at full speed i actually get higher temps

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:49 AM

#

i see

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:49 AM

#

so it's pointless and removes your 3.5" bays

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:49 AM

#

lmao

#

i see

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:49 AM

#

I could get a 3rd front fan if I didn't have to have a Blu-ray in my machine

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:49 AM

#

Ill just do

#

2 top 1 back 3 front

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:50 AM

#

i think 3 front might be ideal, since it feeds the GPU more fresh air

#

but it may be a little uglier without that panel covering the hard drive bays

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:50 AM

#

Yeah

#

So uh

#

i think ill do 5 fans first

#

1 back

#

1 top

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:50 AM

#

if you want to keep that panel on then go 2x140 in the front

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:50 AM

#

3 front

#

Is there even a purpose to that

#

panel

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:51 AM

#

Noooo

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:51 AM

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just to cover the hard drive bays

#

so you don't see them looking in

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:51 AM

#

I dont even have a hard drive

#

just ssds

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:51 AM

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2 in and 3 out is better than 3 in 2 out

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:51 AM

#

You know damn well i dont know how to configure that lmaidbsjdb

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:51 AM

#

Negative pressure let's air come on the back for the GPU

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:52 AM

#

Im confused

#

so what do you want me to do

#

i will have 5 fans

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:52 AM

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2 font, 2 top, 1 back :)

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:52 AM

#

but isn't the conventional wisdom positive pressure + airflow for cooling

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:52 AM

#

:(

#

I dont like that

#

LMAAODHSB

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:52 AM

#

FWIW i currently have 2x 140 in front, 2x140 on top, and 1x120 in back for slight negative pressure

#

nah negative pressure is better for cooling but dustier

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 6:53 AM

#

i'll probably go 2x140 in front, 1x120 in back (i can buy one fractal design fan and get that) and then get a 240mm radiator up top

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:53 AM

#

Negative pressure is common for letting the GPU get some extra air from any holes near the PCIe

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:53 AM

#

well, depending on the case i guess

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:53 AM

#

wait what

#

time out

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:54 AM

#

but yeah the meshify has a big hole next to the GPU so it pulls air in there when you have negative pressure

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:54 AM

#

do i have to get 140 mm ones

#

Im so confused

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:54 AM

#

No

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:54 AM

#

no you can use 120mm, 140mm are just quieter

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:54 AM

#

Oh

#

Oh

#

Ohhh

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:55 AM

#

2 front, 2 top, and 1 back will be slightly better than 3 front 1 top, and 1 back

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:55 AM

#

slightly better

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:55 AM

#

Hit air also rises so evacuating it more efficiently is good

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:56 AM

#

Okay okay

#

how about this

#

LL140

#

rbg by corsair

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:57 AM

#

2xLL140 and an RGB 240mm cooler?

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:57 AM

#

huh

#

no no

#

lemme run it back

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:57 AM

#

He's going with air cooling

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:57 AM

#

2 ll140 in front

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 6:57 AM

#

No aio

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:57 AM

#

and uh

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:58 AM

#

oh

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:58 AM

#

3 LL120, 2 top, 1 back

#

OR

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:58 AM

#

oh that was anni, got it

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 6:58 AM

#

Thermaltake Riing Plus 14 Rbg TT premium Edition (5 fan pack) 63.19 cfm 140mm fans

#

they have 1.53mm of Static pressure

#

Two 140 Front, Two 140 Top, One 140 Back

#

does that work

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 6:59 AM

#

do you need all RGB fans? or are you alright with the top ones not being RGB?

#

it won't fit a 140 in back

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:00 AM

#

Damm

#

I mean no, but

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:00 AM

#

i missed which cooler you were using, stock?

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:02 AM

#

Uh

#

yes?

#

Spire

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:02 AM

#

You might be OVER thinking fans and cooling Blobcat_Derp

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:02 AM

#

Overthinking is my middle name

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:03 AM

#

overthinking the airflow is the fun part of the meshify

#

lol

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:03 AM

#

Cause I'm such a cheap pleb I would just throw 5 bargain bin DC fans in it

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:03 AM

#

audbbsbd

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:03 AM

#

😂

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:04 AM

#

Im too deep to back out

#

how about this

#

I got a new idea

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:04 AM

#

if you really want to overthink it make sure you consider where and how many fan headers you have

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:04 AM

#

I buy two dual packs for 140mm

#

So i slap two 140 front

#

slap two 140 top

#

use the X2 GP12 for back

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:05 AM

#

I just use fan header Y splitters Blobcat_Derp

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:05 AM

#

Guys is it bad if ur fans are only taking air in?

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:05 AM

#

Yes

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:05 AM

#

that works as long as you don't mind no RGB on the back fan 😛

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:05 AM

#

Ouf

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:05 AM

#

You want some in and some out

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:05 AM

#

I have all 6 fans going in only

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:05 AM

#

NPCMechanicFacepalm

#

Why!?

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:06 AM

#

I dont know how to fix it

#

I dont gave a controller

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:06 AM

#

You flip them around

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:06 AM

#

Oki doki

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:06 AM

#

You take it out and flip it over

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:06 AM

#

What should i flip

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:06 AM

#

the whole tower

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:06 AM

#

The front panel or the top

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:06 AM

#

The top and back should be the outs

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:07 AM

#

Oki doki

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:07 AM

#

NPCMechanicFacepalm

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:07 AM

#

Oh no

#

Cable management

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:07 AM

#

The whole tower

#

no scam

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:07 AM

#

How does one get case fans sooo wrong lol

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:07 AM

#

😴

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:07 AM

#

Probably a first timer

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:07 AM

#

Hey with the fans i have

#

Can u program it

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:08 AM

#

oh with corsair only buy one multi-fan pack since they come with the RGB controller @gentle bay unless there's no price difference

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:08 AM

#

Wait wait

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:08 AM

#

@eager chasm

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:08 AM

#

Whats the dif from the node

#

vs the Conteollee

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:08 AM

#

But realizing fans can be flipped over is the most basic XD

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:09 AM

#

What do i upgrade first motherboard or ram?

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:09 AM

#

the lighting node is an RGB controller @gentle bay

#

fan control comes from your mobo

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:09 AM

#

Oh

#

wait so

#

do i need lightning controller

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:09 AM

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There are fan controllers

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:09 AM

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or the lightning node

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Im getting two options on Amazon

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:09 AM

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yeah you need one for the RGB

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:09 AM

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which one lmao

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:10 AM

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@eager chasm

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:10 AM

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there's only a lighting node

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:10 AM

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Mobo or ram?

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:10 AM

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So

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How do i get the controller

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:10 AM

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a fan controller?

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:10 AM

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cause im looking at the HD series too

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:10 AM

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@jaunty karma MB

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:11 AM

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im so confused

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:11 AM

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oh, idk anything about the HD series one

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i guess it comes with a different RGB controller

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:11 AM

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Yeah

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the LL series doesnt have one

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it only has a Node

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so where do i get controller

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:11 AM

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the LL multi-pack has an RGB ccontroller called the lighting node

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:12 AM

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oh

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Bro

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:12 AM

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lol

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:12 AM

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weve gone in circles

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Okay

still roostBOT Dec 16, 2019, 7:12 AM

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Keegan#2839 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:12 AM

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corsair's product line is so confusing

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:12 AM

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so it comes with the LIGHTNING NODE PRO

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Yes

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The lightning node pro is the controller then ?

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:12 AM

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yeah, it controls the RGB lights

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:12 AM

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okay

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Well

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:13 AM

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the fan PWM control comes from the motherboard

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:13 AM

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lets run it back

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:13 AM

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so you need enough PWM headers or to use splitters

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:13 AM

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pwm?

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what

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:13 AM

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4 pin fan headers

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lol

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oh jeez

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sorry i keep going further down the rabbit hole

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:13 AM

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Keegan there are also fan controller hubs

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:14 AM

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yeah corsair sells one that does both RGB and fans called the commander pro

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or you can get other fan controllers

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:14 AM

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what the hell

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:14 AM

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the corsair one is hella overpriced

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:14 AM

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why is this so confusing

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:14 AM

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cause you wanted RGB

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:14 AM

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I just want quality rbg fans

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:14 AM

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it's going to be confusing

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lul

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:14 AM

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Cause you made it more confusing

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:14 AM

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okay

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I understand

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:14 AM

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Which one?

📎 image0.png 📎 image1.png

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:15 AM

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RGB fans have two cables, one for RGB, one for the fan

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:15 AM

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What do u mean whcih one

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U sent us ram sticks

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and a movo

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:15 AM

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Personally I would use splitters and Daisy chains and plug everything into the the MB

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:15 AM

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mobo

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:15 AM

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@indigo thicket my rgb fans need only one

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:15 AM

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i dont know what that means @eager chasm

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:16 AM

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@jaunty karma cause yours aren't configureable

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:16 AM

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😄

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:16 AM

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Anyways

jaunty nacelle Dec 16, 2019, 7:16 AM

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should i get rgb even tho im puttin my pc on the floor

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:16 AM

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they come with the node

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letss run this back

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One last damn time

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Two 140 front

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two 140 top

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1 20 back

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:17 AM

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yeah that probably makes the most sense

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:17 AM

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@jaunty nacelle do whatever makes you happy (and can afford)

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:17 AM

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i was just saying when you buy the 140s, if you get LL fans, then buy an LL140 2 pack, and 2x LL140 single packs, unless it's the same price to get 2 of the 2 packs

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:17 AM

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Oh

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:18 AM

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since you only need one controller and it might be cheaper to buy single packs

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:18 AM

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Its about

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8 dollars cheaper

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:18 AM

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lol

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:18 AM

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Are Team Elite Delta TUF RGB 16GB 2x8 3200MHz worth it?

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:18 AM

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well then

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:19 AM

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There around 80 usd

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:19 AM

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use the $8 saved to get some fan splitters then unless your mobo has 4 chassis fan headers @gentle bay

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:19 AM

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What splitters

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:19 AM

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When I get some RGB fans I might get addressable ones that can Daisy chain and run them off my MB header

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:19 AM

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keegan

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i dont know what that means

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:20 AM

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Splitters, they turn 1 plug into 2

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:20 AM

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like tehse https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16812162026

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:20 AM

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Oh wait

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I can save money

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im dumb

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:20 AM

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I use those on both my builds

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:20 AM

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oh wait no i cant

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:20 AM

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Oh guys i just realized that my fans are Already fixed

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I thought its all in

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:21 AM

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NPCMechanicFacepalm

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:21 AM

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what does this even do keeegan

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:21 AM

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It turns 1 plug into 2

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I told you

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:21 AM

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oh

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oh

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i cant read

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Im sorry maan

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:21 AM

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3 fans in the front panel is in

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:21 AM

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So how many will i need

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:21 AM

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2 top panel out

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Then back panel 1 out

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:21 AM

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if i buy 4 140 fans

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:21 AM

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let me check how many fan headers your board has

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:22 AM

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me?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XWrpK4

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:22 AM

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@gentle bay depends on the number of headers on your MB

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Most MB only have 3 fan headers

still roostBOT Dec 16, 2019, 7:22 AM

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Keegan#2839 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

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Keegan#2839 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:22 AM

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RIP

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:23 AM

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wait what

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:23 AM

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Poor Keegan XD

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:23 AM

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lmao

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gdi why is there a cursing filter on here

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:23 AM

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Cause it's a family friendly server

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There are kids here

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:24 AM

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i was just using bad words to express my surprise that that mottherboard has a corsair RGB header on it

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:24 AM

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My MB has both kinds of RGB headers on it

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Static and Addressable

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:25 AM

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okay, there's a SYS_FAN1 at the top, and 3 other SYS_FAN headers at the bottom fo the board

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:25 AM

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is it bad that i have a header on it

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it looks nice

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:(

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:25 AM

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Headers are the things you plug fans into

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:26 AM

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i'd actually get 2x these 1 to 3 splitters https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16812162059

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:26 AM

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NPCMechanicFacepalm

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:26 AM

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@gentle bay

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:26 AM

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Sir

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I know nothong

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:26 AM

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then plug all 3 exhaust fans(top and back) into one splitter, and plug that into SYS_FAN1

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 7:26 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2jqNzN someone was curious about my build, this is what it's going to be after about six months

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:26 AM

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and then plug the two intake fans into another splitter and plug into SYS_FAN2

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 7:27 AM

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slow morphing and such

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:27 AM

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actually you don't need a 2nd splitter

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 7:27 AM

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and after six months i'll have to buy a zen2 chip because zen3 will knock the prices down

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:27 AM

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just the 1 for the exhaust fans

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 7:28 AM

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i'm gonna need a 5-way splitter when i get that corsair H100i

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:28 AM

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oh wait the back fan is going to be voltage control

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:28 AM

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Keegan

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im confused

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LMAL

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LMAO

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 7:28 AM

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3 fans in my case, and then the cooler

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:28 AM

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lol

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:29 AM

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This is complicated

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:29 AM

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Very

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fock

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yay i can say fock

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So two 140 top, two 140 Front

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I think i will stick with that

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:30 AM

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Whats the other word for a male chicken

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 7:30 AM

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stop that now

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:30 AM

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Coco puffs

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:30 AM

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okay, you're going to get 4x LL140 fans, one fan splitter, and then plug the back fan into SYS_FAN1, the two top fans into the splitter and then into SYS_FAN2, and then the two front fans go into SYS_FAN3 and SYS_FAN4 (look in your motherboard manual for locations)

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:31 AM

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You are

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sure about this

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:31 AM

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Question

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:31 AM

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one fan splitter

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:31 AM

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the LLs have hella long cables so they should reach the bottom

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:31 AM

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What are the pros and cons of water cooling?

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:31 AM

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i c

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:31 AM

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you can get two splitters if you really want to be safe, but yeah one is enough

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:31 AM

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water is wet @jaunty karma

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:31 AM

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No its not

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Water isnt wet

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:31 AM

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i dont recognize you as my son

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:32 AM

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It never will be

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:32 AM

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Why would i need two @indigo thicket

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Just curious

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like how can it be applied

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:32 AM

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There is no VRM airflow in water cooling

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:32 AM

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if you want to plug the two front fans into the same header

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:33 AM

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Whats the difference of water cooling and fan cooling/heatsink?

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:33 AM

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does it make a difference

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:33 AM

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or if something isn't long enough you can use the splitter as an extension

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:33 AM

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If i were to do that

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:33 AM

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probably not

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:33 AM

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oh

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im about to buy two

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:33 AM

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it won't hurt to have two

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:33 AM

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Okay

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we full sending on two

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:34 AM

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these ones are stupid cheap rn https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16812119873

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:35 AM

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^ive used em

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They are a bit stiff near the plugs but still good

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:36 AM

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Whoa

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It switched to my currency

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62??

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Thats cheap

dry tinsel Dec 16, 2019, 7:37 AM

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what's your currency? I am only curious because I can learn about a new currency

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:37 AM

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I got a 2 pack cause i got 5 fans and 3 headers

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Philippine piso

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:38 AM

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yeah i didn't see a 2 pack on newegg right now

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:38 AM

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I have some Philippine money

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:38 AM

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Am i blind i cant see the difference

📎 image0.png 📎 image1.png

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:39 AM

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bottom is micro ATX

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top is ATX

eager chasm Dec 16, 2019, 7:39 AM

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@jaunty karma bottom one is shorter

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:39 AM

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Oh

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Can newegg ship worldwide?

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:41 AM

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https://kb.newegg.com/knowledge-base/international-shipping/

Newegg Knowledge Base

admin

International Shipping

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:42 AM

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okay so

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"(

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keegan

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I just literally boguht the other ones

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Fock

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its okay

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thats out of the way

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:44 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:44 AM

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thats cool

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Okay

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i think i finalized this build

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only thing tto worey about is my monitor

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:44 AM

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YAY

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Newegg shipps to my country

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Epic

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:45 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gq7MCL

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That is my final list

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:46 AM

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My build sucks

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:46 AM

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hy

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why

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:46 AM

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Im jealous

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:46 AM

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Mine is just expensive

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dont be

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:46 AM

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Ik

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:46 AM

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for real

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Dont be jealous

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:46 AM

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200Sad

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:46 AM

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im lowkey sad im spending this much

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:46 AM

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My pc build is just 600$

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:46 AM

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And that is completely fine

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i just have a menial job

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this isnt good for me

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but here i am

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being a clown

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as usual

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Save up for a better one in the future

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im just dumb

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dont splurge like me

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:47 AM

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Woah inspirational speech

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NYEHE

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:48 AM

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Im trying

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but audbjsbdbs

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Keegan

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buddy

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are you still there

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:49 AM

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yeah

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build looks good

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:50 AM

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Thank you

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Last question

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my monitorr

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Are there any better ones out there

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preferrably isp

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ips

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:51 AM

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idk that seems like a great deal on a 75hz IPS panel

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:53 AM

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I guess

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:53 AM

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WHAT THE FRECK

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:53 AM

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It was going up on price

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it went drom 141 to 143 to now 177

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me no happi

indigo thicket Dec 16, 2019, 7:53 AM

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oh

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Imma wait it out

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:54 AM

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WHY THE DELIVERY FEE IS 2,5K??????

gentle bay Dec 16, 2019, 7:54 AM

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?

jaunty karma Dec 16, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Newegg has problems with delivery fees