building-and-recc-chat

[eager chasm]

Use PC part picker

It will let you know if there are any problems with your list

It will complain about using a Ryzen 5 3600 with a B450 board, but that's not really a problem

[jaunty karma]

Pc part picker?

[eager chasm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/

[jaunty karma]

Ok lemme se

[eager chasm]

It's a great tool for first time builders cause it can do all the compatability checks for you

[still roost]

Señor_Shingle#9658 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[eager chasm]

[lyric thistle]

[little osprey]

It's got the discounts and prices n stuff for the online stores

[eager chasm]

The prices don't really matter for galaxy, completely different country and currency

And different price scaling

The biggest thing is him getting a compatable list of parts, almost bought an Intel board for ryzen

Twice lol

[jaunty karma]

Shoot

I accidentally left

Noo my hard work

[little osprey]

Bro are you sure you're gonna be able to build this?

[jaunty karma]

It was all compatible

Are you talking to me @little osprey

[eager chasm]

Supposedly Galaxy has saved up enough and is headed to the "PC mall" to buy parts, but it would suck to buy a Ryzen, an Intel board, and DDR3 and have none of it work

[jaunty karma]

Well i new in the pc community

[little osprey]

Tf does he mean PC mall ?

[jaunty karma]

Its a mall

But only for pc’s

Or a Tech mall

[little osprey]

china?

[eager chasm]

Like when Linus when to china

[jaunty karma]

No

[eager chasm]

Kinda

[jaunty karma]

Nono

The mall is great

[eager chasm]

It's similar enough

[little osprey]

The great mall of china?

[jaunty karma]

Most of there stuff are cheaper than the ones in legit malls

[little osprey]

[jaunty karma]

I heard from my dad

When i went to store checked parts

It was 5k

[little osprey]

Usd?

[jaunty karma]

But he said at the pc mall it can go down to 3-4k

No sorry php

[eager chasm]

Philippine money

[jaunty karma]

So the mall

Can make me have a bit better build

Than a normal store could

Within my budget

[eager chasm]

But since you aren't very knowledgeable about parts it's best you make a compatability list

:D

[jaunty karma]

😄

The mall is called gilmore

Search it up might be there

[eager chasm]

Most I'm portant things to remember is B450 (Ryzen 3000 Ready), and DDR4 RAM

[jaunty karma]

Oki

[little osprey]

And a ryzen 3000 cpu

[jaunty karma]

Ik

[little osprey]

Dont get a bad gpu either

[jaunty karma]

Why is there no HyperX Fury in pc picker thing

[eager chasm]

HyperX Fury ram?

[jaunty karma]

Yes

16 gb of it can just cost 10 usd

[little osprey]

What

No

Post the link

[jaunty karma]

Nevermind

[eager chasm]

There is HyperX Fury DDR4

16GB of it is like $90 USD

[jaunty karma]

35

What

35 usd

Nani

Probably the mhz

This is 35 usd

[little osprey]

No dont get that

[jaunty karma]

Yeah ik

Not buying online

Such a bad move

[eager chasm]

He's talking about don't get that speed

[jaunty karma]

I think thats 8gb

[little osprey]

Would it help if you had model numbers?

[jaunty karma]

Oh

U want a 3666mhz

[little osprey]

Its 8gb and only 1 stick

[jaunty karma]

Yeah ik

[eager chasm]

3200Mhz is good enough

[jaunty karma]

Oki

Ima update

[eager chasm]

3000 even works well enough

[jaunty karma]

If i got it on sat

My second pc

[eager chasm]

But you shouldn't go lower than 2800Mhz for a Ryzen 3000 series, it can really hurt performance

[jaunty karma]

Ok

My first pc sucked

[little osprey]

You want it to say pc4-25600

Or higher

On the package

[jaunty karma]

Oki

Wana know what my first pc had

[eager chasm]

Sorry if we are confusing you >.<

[jaunty karma]

Thats fine

[little osprey]

In the model number towards the beginning theres gonna be the letter "c" followed by a number, you want it to be under 18

[jaunty karma]

My specs on my first pc sucjed

Sucked

[median sail]

[eager chasm]

[little osprey]

Dont buy any ram that says 1.2v on the package. Should say 1.35

[jaunty karma]

Dude your saying to much

[eager chasm]

@little osprey you are getting over spesific for first timer

[jaunty karma]

My brain cells arent going to catchup

I have limited amount of brain cells

[eager chasm]

Most important number is the Mhz and that's good enough in most cases

[little osprey]

What I just said is a surefire way to not buy the wrong ram or slow ram

[jaunty karma]

What if i go shopping with you

Like

Uhh

When im there

Be online

So

[little osprey]

When will that be?

[jaunty karma]

Ik what will i buy

Saturday

[eager chasm]

Budget ram I know works is G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200Mhz

[jaunty karma]

If u live in the us

[little osprey]

I'll be online then,

[jaunty karma]

Thats friday for you

I live in asia

So

Malaysian time

Currently 8:38 pm at my time

[eager chasm]

I got a friend in Indonesia, I'm used to that sort of time difference

[jaunty karma]

So when shopping for parts

What should i get first?

[little osprey]

I wouldn't be able to help between 11am and 7pm in Malaysia time on saturday

[eager chasm]

Well considering none of it works without the rest, in any order is fine if you know what you are getting

[little osprey]

Monitor

[jaunty karma]

Monitor

Hmm

[little osprey]

Yea get monitor first

[jaunty karma]

Nvision?

Benq?

[eager chasm]

I'll be building 2 computers most of the day so I'm not going anywhere :D

[little osprey]

You wanna see it with your own eyes and pick the one with the screen you like best

[jaunty karma]

Ok

Nvision has 70hz

Benq has 60

Almost forgot ima tell you my first pc specs

[eager chasm]

For monitors response time can be important

[jaunty karma]

The motherboard was an asus 1151 i think

Then the cpu

Was a intel petinuim

E smth

1.7 ghz

[eager chasm]

Pentium

[jaunty karma]

Then my ram was 512 mb

And thats all

[little osprey]

Response times are marketing tbh, depends on how they measure it

[jaunty karma]

My hardrive was 250mb

Ok

[little osprey]

Ffs

[jaunty karma]

Fps

[eager chasm]

And in this asian archaeological site, we have found Galaxy's first PC

Jk jk

[jaunty karma]

Lol

I tried rog reboot

With that old pc

[little osprey]

Did you rob the 90's lmao

[jaunty karma]

Still didnt win

You know what i did to that

Just trying to win

I threw it outside

and burned it

[eager chasm]

Rog reboot is kinda North America I thought 🤔

[jaunty karma]

No

Its canda

Its a worldwide thing

Free tickets

Just going there and back

There was an Australia winner there

Australian*

[eager chasm]

Ah

[jaunty karma]

Hows this for a build idea

[little osprey]

Post it

[jaunty karma]

Ryzen 5 2600 Asrock B450 Steel Legend 16gb tforce vulcan Z 3200 mhz Geforce 1650 super western digital 120gb ssd EVGA 600

Psu*

Sorry it took long

1tb hdd

[little osprey]

Yeah man that's great but you might want to throw in a hard drive

[jaunty karma]

Thee

[eager chasm]

Great

[jaunty karma]

There

Heres the thing tho

Idk how much it is

[eager chasm]

You can get away with a 450W PSU

To make it a tad bit cheaper

[jaunty karma]

Idk the price

[lyric thistle]

add up the prices of parts and other things you'll need

[eager chasm]

@lyric thistle he cant

[lyric thistle]

ah

[eager chasm]

The prices will be very different in Philippine money

[jaunty karma]

1 usd = 50 php

[eager chasm]

And the price of parts kinda don't scale the same

[jaunty karma]

Can u check how much it is

[eager chasm]

You'd have to check it yourself, I have no idea where to look up prices for the Philippines

[jaunty karma]

Ok

[eager chasm]

But that is a good mid level PC list

[jaunty karma]

Cpu 6.8k motherboard 6.1k ram 6.5k gpu 8k ssd 1k psu 2.1k

Hdd

1k

WOAH

EXACTLY 25,000k

Whoops

Leave the k

Took me 7 mins just to find the prices

@eager chasm

[cursive wharf]

@jaunty karma What's the PSU model?

cuz budget EVGA tends not to be a good choice given other competitors. Super budget EVGA is simply just bad

[jaunty karma]

I changed it into termaltake

[cursive wharf]

which TT PSU?

[jaunty karma]

Litepower

@cursive wharf want me to change it?

[magic patrol]

What’s the goto high end PSU these days? Looking for ~750W platinum+

[cursive wharf]

I mean litepower is quite dangerous and reallly horrible

[jaunty karma]

Ok suggest a psu under 2k or 40 usd

Corsair vs450?

[cursive wharf]

vs isnt that great. I also suggest spending more on PSU so you dont have such a high chance of frying your system

PSUs arent meant to be cheaped out on

[jaunty karma]

Coolermaster MWE 550

[glacial meteor]

@cursive wharf Any good PSU to recommend? 600W above

[cursive wharf]

That's rather good. A bit above what you need as you seem to be getting to the cheapest trustworthy PSU tho
Corsair CX450 / CX550, if it's cheaper

@glacial meteor what budget, modular?

[jaunty karma]

Coolermaster elite v3

[glacial meteor]

I don't have a real budget for that. I would prefer to spend more if it won't give me any trouble for years

[jaunty karma]

Evga 700br

70 usd

[cursive wharf]

Elite V3 is same as the Litepower really bad
BR isnt that great

[jaunty karma]

Oh the br isnt mine just suggesting

@cursive wharf

Suggest me one from this list

[cursive wharf]

Problem with that list is they dont look at actual quality of the PSUs. Only decent one from the reviews is the Corsair CX series. But 750w isnt that great as if you were using a PC taking 750w I'd go much higher end that what I consider to be "bare minimum"

[glacial meteor]

@cursive wharf What's your suggestion on these few?

1. Super Flower Leadex II Gold 650W
2. SILVERSTONE 600W 80 PLUS POWER SUPPLY

[jaunty karma]

Cx doubles the price

From 2k to 4k

[cursive wharf]

but what wattage?

[jaunty karma]

Lemme see what i can di

550

I cant find 450

[cursive wharf]

probably a bit pricy then. Was the Coolermaster MWE 80+ gold or 80+? If it's gold, then what price?

[jaunty karma]

Standard

If i do gold doubles the price

[eager chasm]

Just do what you can afford, if it's 80+ certified that's good enough if it's a trusted brand, anything rated higher is mostly just better efficientcy that's all that means

[jaunty karma]

Took an hour for you to text back

[eager chasm]

I'm at work XD

Can't be on the entire time

[jaunty karma]

Lol

Oki

[cursive wharf]

@glacial meteor first one is pretty decent. Dont know about the second one as you didnt really include the actual model name. Tho it may or may not be the best for its price

@eager chasm lol no. Never get a PSU by brand

[still roost]

Hei#8914 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[jaunty karma]

This is pressuring me to buying a pc

Uhm how?

[cursive wharf]

one of the s words,
All companies release bad PSUs to be legit dangerous

[jaunty karma]

So

I still need help on psu

[cursive wharf]

Give me a link to one of the MWE PSUs

the "standard" one

[glacial meteor]

@cursive wharf SilverStone ST60F-ESB 600W 80 Plus Bronze

[jaunty karma]

Ima just screen shot ut

It

Its an online site here in the Philippines

So its kinda different

[eager chasm]

🤔 think it means 80+ white

Like the lowest 80+ score

Never actually seen one

Lol

[jaunty karma]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[cursive wharf]

having the part # would be nice. Like this for example MPE-5501-ACAAB

[eager chasm]

Hei you aren't gonna get a part number from someone who was gonna buy a Intel board for ryzen a few hours ago

[cursive wharf]

eh

[jaunty karma]

Why u bully

[cursive wharf]

80+ white also doesnt exist. White is part of CMs marketing

[jaunty karma]

Well hei can u be online on Saturday

[eager chasm]

80+ does have a rating below bronze

[jaunty karma]

So i can buy with some support

@cursive wharf

Well i cant read this

[eager chasm]

It's rare that anything gets below a bronze rating but it happens, since it doesn't have a metal color associated with it people just call it 80+ white

It's the absolute minimum score

[jaunty karma]

Chotto matte

[eager chasm]

Aside form not even making 80+ at all

@jaunty karmaits the model number at the top

[jaunty karma]

How is this cheaper

[eager chasm]

Cause the Philippines be weird

[jaunty karma]

@cursive wharf where are you we need your part knowledge

[cursive wharf]

researching

[eager chasm]

🤔 another 80+ standard "white"?

[jaunty karma]

I toned it down a little

To make it 25k

[eager chasm]

Nice

Seems good

[jaunty karma]

I changed ssd ram no need for case i uped the motherboard

Changed gpu

[cursive wharf]

just avoid WD Green SSDs

[jaunty karma]

Oh

[cursive wharf]

if you want WD at least

WD Blue is fine

[jaunty karma]

Pk

Ok

My build

Change the psu still thinking

[cursive wharf]

also what other SSD options are there? WD Blue is good and all, but usually not the cheapest good option

tho, also cuz you arent in US that may not be the case

[eager chasm]

Kinda also depends what he can find in the tech mall

[jaunty karma]

Ya

Cant wait any longer

After a year

Of waiting

[cursive wharf]

This is an outdated list, but follow it as I cant really give much advice at this point

[muted patio]

That's way outdated

[eager chasm]

It's likely the parts will be completely different and the only things that match are the key numbers like B450, 3200Mhz, 450-600W, etc. Cause who knows what will be at the tech mall

[cursive wharf]

@muted patio indeed, but meh

[jaunty karma]

So

@cursive wharf

Can u help me if ur online?

I can afford a barracuda

[cursive wharf]

probably wont. Weekends I usually do other stuff

[jaunty karma]

Ok

How about this

[eager chasm]

Oh wow, the margins to score 80+ white are sooo narrow no wonder almost nothing 80+ certified gets it

It really is bare minimum of only a few % over 80

[jaunty karma]

RyokuHasu

Btw i followed you on twitter

[eager chasm]

But I don't use my Twitter XD

[jaunty karma]

Well got a follow anyways

[eager chasm]

Except for grabbing my switch screenshots and entering contests XD

[jaunty karma]

Ik

Isaw

What time is it?

[eager chasm]

8:30 am my time

[jaunty karma]

10:25 pm

[cursive wharf]

There isnt a model name for that SSD in the screenshot, so I cant say

[jaunty karma]

Its thursday

[eager chasm]

Tommorow is the day I'm spending in the shop building my sister's and my builds

[jaunty karma]

@cursive wharf

[cursive wharf]

samsung is overpriced

but they arent bad

due to yor budget, I'd say no

tho

[jaunty karma]

Tomorrow is the last day im going to a computer cafe

I can squeeze it probt

Probably

Hei

[cursive wharf]

or just get a 480gb SSD instead, even a 1tb SSD can maybe fit in 2.3k

[eager chasm]

Mushkin is a decent brand of SSD, but kinda uncommon

[jaunty karma]

Can u make a list of what should i get first to last

[keen steeple]

What do you guys think about Corsair MP510?

[cursive wharf]

tbh just follow the outdated list I gave

[jaunty karma]

No too expe

No to expensive

Prolly i just stay with the 250

[cursive wharf]

@keen steeple decent, about 970 Evo levels. Tho Sabrent Rocket is about 970 Evo Plus levels for slightly cheaper or same price

[eager chasm]

Philippine prices are weird, if you can afford it, go for it

[jaunty karma]

American prices are weird

[keen steeple]

I'm used to my local currency and usd

[jaunty karma]

Then i too

[eager chasm]

To us American prices are normal

[coarse coral]

Is there a nvme chart

[eager chasm]

[cursive wharf]

yes, tho slightly outdated as well @coarse coral

[jaunty karma]

To me Philippines prices are normal

[cursive wharf]

outdated NVMe here

[coarse coral]

[jaunty karma]

Whats megumin doing here

[cursive wharf]

making explosions

[eager chasm]

Megumin bought a PSU without a brand or 80+.... EEEEXPLOOOOOSION!

[jaunty karma]

@cursive wharf

Is my build ok

Justndont mind ssd and psu

[cursive wharf]

also, what about used prices? Can maybe save a decent amount on GPU

[coarse coral]

My Sx8100 must be bad

[cursive wharf]

not really. I did say "outdated list"

I havent looked at reviews for it tho

so who knows

[eager chasm]

I don't regret buying a pilot despite never hearing about mushkin before

It was a decent shot in the dark

And same with RE HDDs ... Kinda off the beaten path to get those

[jaunty karma]

Do you guys know Rakk?

[eager chasm]

Nope

[jaunty karma]

So thats why

[eager chasm]

That's why what?

[jaunty karma]

Well rakk cases are budget cases but never saw them in a budget build

So search up rakk cases

30-70 dollars i think on some

Rakk cases look good

[eager chasm]

Oh I use a Rosewill budget case and a DIYPC budget case, i have a very unusual requirement for my cases in today's market

Must have 2 Optical Drive bays

Cause I have a mountain of DVDs and Blurays

😂

[jaunty karma]

Ok

Aight gotta get my 10 hour sleep

See ya

[eager chasm]

I really don't care about case quality if it serves it's purpose and has passable airflow

[jaunty karma]

Almost 11pm

[eager chasm]

Night, take care

[jaunty karma]

Morning for you

[eager chasm]

Well I work nights so I've been up for the past 10 hours XD

[eager chasm]

@little osprey you are correct, CRINGE BAIT

[little osprey]

fun facts!

• the graphics card uses the athlon's heatsink, which is tied on with leather straps and held taught with a pencil
• the heatsink on the athlon itself was taken from an all-in-one that was built in 2008
• so was one of the hard drives
• the disk drive came from a crappy acer desktop that i got to dismantle
• the power supply is completely uncertified
• the ssd it boots from is a 60gb model that says "win with fast and wisdom" on it

[eager chasm]

And i thought building in salvaged 2001 case was bad XD

[little osprey]

nothing is sacred òwó

[eager chasm]

You went full mad Max on that PC

I commend you for your creativity

[dry tinsel]

nice

[little osprey]

thank 😃

it was fun to build lmao

[dry tinsel]

i once attached an AIO to the CPU using zip ties

[little osprey]

valid

[sudden turret]

Same Anni!

as long as it's tight, it'll work

I installed a ryzen 1600 cooler on my kids old am3 board

using the zipties :p

[little osprey]

as i continue to learn i continue to be surprised at just how much one can get away with

pc building really doesn't have to be an exact science lol

[eager chasm]

I mean some stuff has to be there for core functionality

but outside of that's have at it

[tranquil dust]

Yea

[eager chasm]

🤔 not saying it's a good idea but could you put RAM on special made Raisers?

lol

[tranquil dust]

So my case is pretty ugly Mby I should get one with a psu shroud?

[eager chasm]

PFFT we don't need no stinking shroud 😄

[still roost]

RyokuHasu#1337 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tranquil dust]

I have a modular psu I need one

[sudden turret]

[tranquil dust]

Lol

[sudden turret]

you can't say naked!

It's against the law!

[eager chasm]

WTF...

[tranquil dust]

Wait what

[eager chasm]

XD

[sudden turret]

yeah

not bacause it's a bad word.

it's because we had an issues with 'sexbots'

[eager chasm]

that's the oddest filter imo

[sudden turret]

that was the easiest way to take care of them

[eager chasm]

I was using it to describe the n~@~ked basement of a case >:O can I get that infraction removed? lol

lol

[tranquil dust]

You seem to always be active iambox don’t you have a life outside of discord?

[sudden turret]

I can't remove the infraction but I can ask mike to remove it from the list

This is my life.

[tranquil dust]

Oof

[sudden turret]

[eager chasm]

LIFE?

[sudden turret]

I'm old, retired/disabled

[eager chasm]

what is?

[sudden turret]

kids in school

wife works

[tranquil dust]

Uh oh here we go again

[eager chasm]

inb4 box waves his cane about, yelling at us to get off his lawn.

[sudden turret]

https://tenor.com/view/you-kids-get-off-my-lawn-cranky-old-man-suburbia-americana-gif-14239371

[eager chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/feliznavidad-wide-awake-nailed-it-gif-13116557

[sudden turret]

bekora with the lurk

[muted patio]

Work smarter, not harder

You're speaking for me

[tranquil dust]

My sister says so much nonsense that tts can’t even work lol

[sudden turret]

hey @eager chasm

[eager chasm]

?

[sudden turret]

say naked

please

no bs

[eager chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-atrap-gif-8125029

[sudden turret]

it's not

[eager chasm]

naked

[sudden turret]

\o/

[eager chasm]

now as I was saying before....

[sudden turret]

lolol

leave your pants on though.

[muted patio]

#nopantsthursday

[eager chasm]

PSU naked basement bois for life

[muted patio]

Not basement, 2nd floor

[sudden turret]

basements get the best temps

[eager chasm]

is it naughty if you PC runs with it's PSU exposed down below?

in full view of children!

[sudden turret]

wut

[eager chasm]

THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

[lime forge]

think of meeeee

wait what are we talking about

[eager chasm]

filthy heathens who build PCs without shrouds covering their PSUs

[sudden turret]

that's danger.

[eager chasm]

(is 100% guilty)

basementless cases expose the PSU to the eyes of CHILDREN!

[stoic island]

But I like seeing my psu

Through the side

[compact latch]

@eager chasm case manufacturers have no excuse having one when cases that cost $50 have them

Every case should have a shroud

[little osprey]

@glacial burrow

• Athlon 220GE
• 8GB DDR4 (can't remember what frequency)
• RX 460 2GB (if i remember right)
• 320GB SATA 2 hard drive
• 500GB SATA 3 hard drive
• 60GB SSD
• A salvaged disk drive

[glacial burrow]

wait... where's the bloody CPU cooler?! 😂 don't tell me that big flipping fan is enough to cool it off with no heatsink

[little osprey]

the copper tube is the cooler. has a small array of fins on the end that have a 60mm fan crudely strapped to them

i took that heatsink out of an old all-in-one 🤣

[glacial burrow]

... this really is a taped together pc

[little osprey]

yup! 😃

[glacial burrow]

surprised that those specs aren't worse than and old windows 98 pc 😂

[little osprey]

i think the best part is that it runs quite well. wouldn't think it, but it's quite smooth overall and doesn't throttle at all 😂

[glacial burrow]

well looking only at the specs, they should be more than useable. It ain't no 1080p AAA gaming machine, but it's actually... decent 😂

that cooler is sketching me out though, even though the CPU is only 35W

[little osprey]

hottest i could get it in this config was 75°. woefully hot for an athlon but still within tolerance i guess lol

[glacial burrow]

It's temps before throttling is 95 degrees, so that's well within spec

[eager chasm]

@delicate granite yes it should work, but it will run at SATA2 speeds

Though if you only have a single drive bay you may need to clone your existing drive to it

[glacial burrow]

@little osprey how long have you been running that setup?

[little osprey]

i don't use it actively; i just built it for fun. guess you could call it a "spare," or more appropriately a catch-all for spare parts

but i've had it about a year

[glacial burrow]

fair enough, i wouldn't run that thing as a main

[eager chasm]

I'm gonna be building a Uber bad build that could technically run windows but it would suck to do so, good thing it's gonna be a Homebrew NAS :)

[glacial burrow]

what specs are you planning @eager chasm ?

[eager chasm]

An athlon 3000G, the new $50 CPU

Slap it in an ITX build and cheap out on everything else

Like only 4GB of the bargain bin garbage ram I can find

[glacial burrow]

just not the PSU... 😂 at least get something 80+ certified

[eager chasm]

80+ bronze 300W

Overkill for the project but still cheap

[glacial burrow]

hey, if it's got 80+ anything it's better than any crappy PSU

[eager chasm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D3sygJ

Its not the cheapest possible Homebrew Nas, but it's not worse priced than most of the prebuilts (with no drives)

And the platform allows for being upgraded to a mini server

[glacial burrow]

it's good enough, that should you ever want to scavenge it in the future, the parts aren't completely useless

and a mini server wouldn't be out of the question

[eager chasm]

It's for my parents cause they run a business and have lots of stuff to sort and backup

:)

[glacial burrow]

well, the parts are new and got a warranty. and in theory, the storage can be expanded

though, i'd probably through in a cheap M.2 SSD, just to get the OS of the harddrive

[eager chasm]

No slot

[glacial burrow]

yeah, it's on the back of the board

it's written between the socket and the ram "Ultra M.2"

[eager chasm]

Still rather get a sata SSD with only a handful of GBs

FreeNAS is a very lightweight OS

[glacial burrow]

honest, no difference to the usability

FreeNAS can be run of a USB right? or is that Unraid ?

[eager chasm]

Technically you can run windows off a USB

XD

[pastel sigil]

FreeNSA?

[glacial burrow]

well, a cheap 60gb SSD or something in that ballpark should be plenty

[eager chasm]

FreeNAS an open source light weight OS for setting up a custom NAS

Hell a 20GB SSD would do the trick XD

[glacial burrow]

yeah, they just aren't as common without getting into sketchy town 😂

[eager chasm]

Lol

Imo 80+ white is sketchy

Like atleast bronze

You almost never see 80+ white PSUs

The spesifications mean is not more than 2% effcient over 80%

It's pretty narrow and sketch

[glacial burrow]

getting bronze certified isn't marginally more expensive than white

so if a PSU cheaps out with just white, I'll usually look away

[thorn warren]

Would this chat be a good place to get a ballpark appraisal estimate?

[long rock]

Gieco can save you 15% or more on car insurance

[thorn warren]

Sorry, should be specific, a ballpark estimate on a used desktop.

[long rock]

😂 😂 😂

Was kidding, I knew what you meant. What all you looking for? Gaming? Work? Web browsing?

[thorn warren]

Looking to sell locally, but unsure how to price it.

[long rock]

Is it like, a gaming rig?

[thorn warren]

ya

[long rock]

What kinda specs u got?

[thorn warren]

uypgraded over the years until both PCI-E and Sata lanes have been saturated

Gimme a sec to type it all out

[long rock]

👍

[eager chasm]

just don't ask too much or Greg Salazar will see it and rip you a new one on his channel

[long rock]

😂

[eager chasm]

"$3000 for an i3 build" trololol

[long rock]

Honestly I'd say ballpark maybe 300 or so depending on specs, if it's a lower end

[eager chasm]

Depends on what it is, could be worth more

[long rock]

@eager chasm I've seen some 2080 TI and i3 builds. Kinda odd lol

[stoic island]

wtf

[eager chasm]

Holy tits.... That would be bad

[thorn warren]

Core I7-3770k (Delidded with Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra applied to die)
EGVA GTX 1070 SC
32GB DDR3-1600
Several SSDs and HDDs:
Kingston 120gb & 240gb SSD
Mushkin 512GB SSD
ADATA 512gb NVME
Vaseky 256gb m.2 sata
EVGA 1kw PSU 80 plus gold cert
Themaltake 360mm AIO liquid cooler

[long rock]

Maybe not a 2080TI but I've seen em paired with some real high end GPUs

[thorn warren]

Its... basically a frankenstien monstrosity with all PCI-E and sata lanes saturated

[long rock]

Interesting.....I'm honestly not sure what to say....maybe like 350? I could be totally off though

[thorn warren]

oh forgot, also have two WD greens of 1tb and 3tb respectively

[long rock]

That sounds like a crap ton of storage on top of a mid range rig, but that's just from my observation

[thorn warren]

Yup, I had an itch to upgrade until I could no longer upgrade

So built another computer to satisfy that itch

[long rock]

Well, how.much do you think it's worth

[thorn warren]

Well, I've poured probably 3500 into it, but with depreciating hardware probably around 1000-1200.

[long rock]

Holy frick, I was wayyyyy off lol

Yeah, I've never seen anything like that kinda build, I really don't think I'd be much help

[thorn warren]

Maybe I could send it to a youtuber or something to have them check it out for a vid 😛

"REALLY weird PC build"

[long rock]

Yeah, or even see if people have built rigs like that, and what it cost them or whatever

Hell, send it to Linus Tech Tips lol

[thorn warren]

wanna see a pic?

[long rock]

I'm betting there is someone on here that could help ye, i would, but I've never seen anything like it and am not sure what it would be worth, Sure!

[thorn warren]

looks like I need to compress it lol

One sec

there we go

[long rock]

Ooh. Cool

[long rock]

Hmmm......

[thorn warren]

little bit of a rat's nest on the bottom lol

[long rock]

The i7 is old but I hear they are Rock solid CPUs, the case isn't bad, the GPU is pretty mint, storage out yer ears, I'm thinking maybe 7-900ish possibly???? Can anyone help?

[eager chasm]

That Storage total isn't that crazy

But that seems like a fair assessment on price to me, but I'm not good at pricing old parts

[thorn warren]

I'll possibly try for 1100 on local markets and lower the price after a week. You think that would work?

[eager chasm]

Considering for 1100 you start getting to the territory where you can build a new machine that can beat the pants off it, no

[thorn warren]

People tend to barter in my area anyway, so it'll probably be knocked down to about 900

[eager chasm]

So why 1000W?

Seems kinda overkill 🤔

[thorn warren]

That was when I had 780 SLI

[eager chasm]

🤔

We're they really that power hungry?

[thorn warren]

300w per card? oh yeah

[eager chasm]

Holy crap I wasn't around in the PC market when the 700 cards were a thing

[thorn warren]

Well base TDP was 250, but I bought these fac oc'd

[eager chasm]

First GPU I hadwas a 965M ... Cause laptops 😂

[thorn warren]

First GPU I technically owned was a 7600 GT

Running with a Northwood P4

[eager chasm]

My first desktop GPU was the direct successor, a 1060

Then I jumped factions and went completely overboard with a Radeon VII

I don't regret it, despite it being a HORRIBLE buy

[thorn warren]

Not bad. I hope AMD can jump up their game with GPUs like they did with CPUs. Currently I'll still be sticking with nvidia until AMD becomes a decent competitor

[compact latch]

First gpu for me was 1060 lol. Than it went bad on me got a refund and got a 1070ti

[eager chasm]

The 5700 XT is the closest AMD has come to being Competitive in GPUs

It's a step in the right direction

[thorn warren]

yup, and I hope they build up the momentum

[eager chasm]

The 5500 XT was a step backwards

So no

[faint steeple]

the vast vast 90+% of people do not buy things like 2080ti's

so the 5700/xt is doing great

[eager chasm]

Radeon VII's selling point (yes it actually has one) is the outlandish ammount of VRAM, it's kinda future proofed for super epic textures

[thorn warren]

In my experience you don't currently need more than 8gb vram for gaming. CAD on the other hand...

[eager chasm]

I have pushed it to 12GB in gaming

[muted patio]

And the speed of said RAM. It just never caught on. HBM2 never really caught on for mainstream

[eager chasm]

By cracking the sliders in RE2 to the extreme

That puts in in a very niche use case, but it's possible

[faint steeple]

down to cost for HBM

[eager chasm]

Resident Evil 2 has some absolutely asinine graphics settings

[thorn warren]

I am a 1080p 144hz pleb though

[eager chasm]

I have a 1080p 165hz, but i like cranking the graphics to max

So realistically I get about 100FPS on ultra settings

But with asinine settings..... Ahahahah no

[thorn warren]

Personally I think high framerate on high refresh rate is candy to my eyes more than ultra graphics, but it's nice to have both

I've basically cursed myself though, now anything less than 80fps makes me nauseous.

[eager chasm]

My 165hz backlight failed...

[thorn warren]

F

[eager chasm]

Had to RMA it

Forced to use 75Hz 16ms response time monitor for 2 weeks

[distant ermine]

im building a pc rn and im wondering where to put my fans in my atx case, what do you guys thing? 3 at the front and 1 at the back, or 2 at the front and 1 at the back and 1 at the top, or something else?

[thorn warren]

Two front, one back and one top

Have the front fans be intake, and the back and top exhaust

[little osprey]

any suggestions for good cheap rgb fans

i have two that came with my aio but apparently they’re loudish so a 5 pack would be preferable

and the ones that come with the case aren’t rgb

[thorn warren]

Probably this: https://www.newegg.com/deepcool-rf120m-case-fan/p/N82E16835856124?Description=rgb fan 5&cm_re=rgb_fan_5-_-35-856-124-_-Product

[cursive wharf]

upHere 5 pack RGB fans for $35

@distant ermine @thorn warren top isn't always best as it can take air from the air cooler, if you have one

[thorn warren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ I'm not very good at choosing RGB parts, just parts that perform despite the looks

[distant ermine]

you mean air from the cpu cooler?@cursive wharf

[cursive wharf]

Yes

Top fan and cpu air cooler fan fight each other for air, depending on position

[distant ermine]

oh ok then 3 intake at the front and 1 at the back as an exhaust is good?

[cursive wharf]

Well, it is still case dependent. But positive pressure will help with dust reduction (3 in, 1 out)

[distant ermine]

what do you mean with case dependent

depending on the pc case you have

[cursive wharf]

All cases are different. So some cases have different issues than others

[distant ermine]

i have the Fractal Design Meshify C Dark

[eager chasm]

In my cases I go 2 in the front in and 3 in the top and back out, but I kinda can't get 3 front fans into cases with dual optical bays

[eager chasm]

just watch the LTT video about the NAS ... $400 without a drive, my homebrew solution: $320 WITH a basic drive

[little osprey]

in canadian, whats a good build including a 144hz monitor?

for 2500

canadian

[eager chasm]

was about to ask the budget

lol

$2500 CAD should make a pretty kick-butt PC

[little osprey]

yep

[covert mortar]

@eager chasm There's actually a really awesome 80mm fan adapter for 5.25" drive bays made by evercool. Even has 2.5" mounts included. Optical drives are getting less useful, it can be really cool to adapt a case that has them for 3 front fans

[little osprey]

i was planning to build something with a 5700xt and a ryzen 7 2700x

[eager chasm]

no

I have a mountain of DVDs and Blurays I'm gonna watch them

❤️

[covert mortar]

Fair enough, just thought it was worth mentioning

[eager chasm]

@little osprey why not a Ryzen 3700X build?

thanks anyway champ

[little osprey]

ill see

[eager chasm]

one sec I'll make a canadian part picker, eh

😉

[little osprey]

kk

[eager chasm]

@little osprey not including any HDDs, you can probably pick some out, here is a pretty nice 3700X PC (+144Hz monitor) for $2237 CAD
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/hc7PJb

[little osprey]

honestly, that really helped me. i appreciate the help

[eager chasm]

you could probably even get a 2080 if you REALLY wanted to go the extra mile

[little osprey]

yea thats true

[eager chasm]

$2500 CAD is enough for a REALLY nice PC

[little osprey]

yea

been saving up for a while now

[eager chasm]

well hope this gives you a good starting point

[little osprey]

it really does. thanks!

[eager chasm]

the ram probably doesn't need to be Trident Z, it could be less fancy and you could go 32 total GB, or just throw more money at it and get 32 of Trident Z

left you a few hundred wiggle room

[little osprey]

ye i could. we'll see

see ya later

[gentle bay]

@eager chasm No changes? I mean idk for gpu

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KsRDZf

The link i was referring to

[eager chasm]

looks good but what's your max budget?

[viral ore]

@uncut surge so do you want intel, or are you not sure?

if you want to save some money, go amd

that allows you to put more money towards your gpu

[uncut surge]

I love in Denmark and it is a lot easier for me to get a Intel

[viral ore]

another thing is that faster refresh rates require beefier cpus

[uncut surge]

Live*

[viral ore]

so Intel really is the best choice, considering you want to hit 240fps

are you strictly gaming

or streaming and other things

[uncut surge]

I am only going to use I for gaming

And school

[viral ore]

what is school? will you be rendering or compiling code?

or like essays

[uncut surge]

Essays

[viral ore]

ok, so on a budget such as yours, and considering you need the best IPC you can get as opposed to more cores, the 9900k is unnecessary

which also means the best option is a 9th gen intel cpu

do you care about overclocking?

[uncut surge]

No

[viral ore]

do you think you might consider it in the future?

like, at all?

[uncut surge]

Yes I like a year

It is my first computer so want to be safe

In*

[viral ore]

ok, i just wanted to know so i can pick overclocking capable parts

[uncut surge]

Okay

[viral ore]

i think the i7-9700k fits the bill just perfectly

no need to pay 100 dollars extra for hyperthreading

[uncut surge]

Okay

What about the 2080 super or 2070 super

[viral ore]

the gpu you get depends on the budget remaining

if you have enough left over for the 2070s, perfect, if you arent happy with that, we can go through and slim down the other components to afford something more powerful

[ember sierra]

You can get a 2070s for just over 500$

[viral ore]

a solid z370 board should be good enough, and also not overkill

what size case are you thinking about getting? do you want a huge tower, something small?

something in the middle?

[uncut surge]

Middle

[viral ore]

micro atx motherboards are usually the cheapest

which is a bonus

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007583 601310881&Order=PRICE

use this link, go pick a case you like

[uncut surge]

Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 TG Micro ATX Tower

I like that

Is that a middle case

[viral ore]

yep

its supports a micro atx board

[uncut surge]

Nice

[viral ore]

lol @sudden turret says bad airflow

[sudden turret]

hi

[viral ore]

sup

[sudden turret]

[viral ore]

[sudden turret]

yeah don't get the case.

it's bad.

[viral ore]

need case suggestions

[sudden turret]

https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-q300l-micro-atx/p/N82E16811119331

[viral ore]

👀

i have the Q500L

[sudden turret]

so why didn't you suggest the Q300l

😛

[viral ore]

lol idk i 4got lol

[sudden turret]

[viral ore]

ANYWAY

@uncut surge that one is great

and cheap

[sudden turret]

great case for 45 bucks

[uncut surge]

Is the order one better

[viral ore]

the Q300l is better

[uncut surge]

And the Q500l

[viral ore]

oh, that one is for ATX boards

[little osprey]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Bys9cq rate my setup

[viral ore]

so no reason to get it

[uncut surge]

Okay

[viral ore]

its the same thing but with an awkwardly placed psu

@little osprey 👌

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157858R

theres the motherboard

the cheapest z370 on newegg rn

why?

because it works

[uncut surge]

It says it doesn't work

[viral ore]

i assume you wont be doing any aggressive overclocking, so this board will do just fine

?

[sudden turret]

where does it say that lol

[uncut surge]

The link

I don't know

[viral ore]

the link?

[sudden turret]

worked for me

[viral ore]

oh, where do you live?

like country

[uncut surge]

Denmark

[viral ore]

o yeah u told me

hol up

[little osprey]

I need a case with 4 fans that will support a 240mm rad

[uncut surge]

@viral ore I won't be overclocking

[viral ore]

oh, ok

[sudden turret]

search newegg leon.

lol

[viral ore]

i guess that motherboard isnt for sale on newegg denmark

[little osprey]

Newegg don’t ship here

[sudden turret]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[viral ore]

theres a denmark newegg site tho

https://www.newegg.com/global/dk-en

[uncut surge]

Som of I can be shipped

[little osprey]

Just need a model of case

[uncut surge]

Like the case

[viral ore]

hmm

where do you normally buy things online from in denmark

are there any region specific sites that are commonly used?

[uncut surge]

I don't know can you give me the full name of the motherboard

[viral ore]

that doesnt really matter, it was on sale

the only reason i was suggesting it was for that reason

[uncut surge]

Okay

Some other suggestions

[viral ore]

basically you need a Micro-ATX Z370 motherboard

anything that meets that requirement will do

[uncut surge]

Okay I think I can find one

Thanks for the help

[viral ore]

we arent done yet tho lol

you still need storage

and ram

and cpu cooler

[uncut surge]

I have a lot of games so a lot of space will probably be a good idea

Storage*

[viral ore]

so im thinking a 128 or 256gb ssd as your boot drive, and a spacious 2tb HDD

how many other programs do you usually use besides games themselves

like ms office, etc.

[uncut surge]

All of my school stuff is on Google

[viral ore]

ahh, smart

[little osprey]

Same here

My school has got loads of cloud space

[uncut surge]

Nice

[viral ore]

i think 128gb is enough for windows and a handful of programs you load on boot, should there be any

usually a decent 2tb hdd should be about 60-80 USD

unsure what your using actually

[uncut surge]

I figured it out myself with the HDD

[viral ore]

wait, so this may seem like a stupid question, but do you have 2000USD, or 2000DKK?

[uncut surge]

USD

Not stupid

[viral ore]

lol, ok, phew

no, not at all, i thought i was

ok

good

so

16gb of ram is ideal for any pc

you dont need any more than that, and stepping down to 8 can cause performance issues

especially on win 10

[uncut surge]

That is what I thought as well

[viral ore]

ok cool

[uncut surge]

Okay

[viral ore]

now power supply

for a build like this, 650w is an ideal minimum

i always like suggesting 80+ gold psus

because if you have the money for a nice build, may as well get a good quality psu

[uncut surge]

So 650w is fine

If it is 80+ gold psus

[viral ore]

yep

ok, so heres what ive got so far

CM Q300L
Micro-ATX Z370 Motherboard
i7-9700k or kf
2x8GB DDR4 3000-3600
2070 SUPER or 2080 SUPER
650W 80+ GOLD
128GB M.2
2TB SSHD

the actual components you pick will depend on pricing

and where you can buy them from

[uncut surge]

Okay

[viral ore]

oh

oops

cpu cooler

[uncut surge]

That is a must

[viral ore]

your case has one case fan, so to avoid having to buy a cpu cooler and 2 more case fans, i suggest a 240mm AIO cpu cooler

that you can mount at the front of your case

[uncut surge]

Is I a water

[viral ore]

yeah, its an All In One liquid cooler

so its sealed

[uncut surge]

Okay nice

[viral ore]

plus, a good AIO vs a good air cooler plus 2 case fans is about the same price

case fans are NOT cheap

suprisingly

[uncut surge]

Okay

Thanks man really appreciate the help

[latent bronze]

case fans not cheap

[little osprey]

good ones arent

[weary bridge]

I buy cheap fans

As long as they push air, idc

[viral ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R2XLcq

@uncut surge

obviously not the exact components you would buy, but close enough

and

you have 400USD left over

incase taxes plus shipping end up being much more than in the us

you have about another 250 to spend towards other components

[uncut surge]

Thanks

[viral ore]

if you needed to

ur welcome

[uncut surge]

Really appreciate your help

[lone cosmos]

I fried my motherboard?

[viral ore]

restart ur pc

see if it doo it again

[lone cosmos]

White light in 450 asus strix

I tried :(((

No no display

Now

[viral ore]

does the screen do the same thing or similar every time

oh ok no display

[lone cosmos]

Similar

I took out cpu to see if its messed up

[viral ore]

so when its completly off, walk me through what happens on screen when you hit the power button

[lone cosmos]

I hit power

No display

[viral ore]

does the display flicker, or come out of sleep mode

does the monitor detect an input

also, what does the white light thats on say next to it

[lone cosmos]

It detects it sometimes

But most of the time no

Turns on fans run

[viral ore]

oh

thats great

that means its mid post

[lone cosmos]

No display and sometimes that fuzz happens when I do

[sudden turret]

try a different vga cable

hdmi

[viral ore]

that too

[sudden turret]

display port

[lone cosmos]

Using hdmi

[sudden turret]

try different cable and port

[viral ore]

its not a total system failure, but just a single component most likely

or a display cable

[sudden turret]

very hdmi is plugged in good, not 80% in

[lone cosmos]

Ill try dif cable

[viral ore]

also, whats printed on the motherboard right next to that white light?

you might need a flashlight

[sudden turret]

deblug light he means

or SHE

sorry for assuming.

-.-

[viral ore]

yo thats right

there could be gamer girls among us...

😳

[lone cosmos]

Ddim1234

[viral ore]

ok now were getting somewhere

[lone cosmos]

Maybe ram?

[viral ore]

after testing the display cables, pull your rams out

and only put one of them in

[lone cosmos]

Ill try that sec

[viral ore]

i wanna say in the slot second closest to the CPU?

[sudden turret]

yeah.

or closet to cpu

[viral ore]

wait

im loosing my marbles, how do you spell it?

[sudden turret]

losing

closest

lol

[viral ore]

oh, is it closest?

dang

[sudden turret]

im tired

lemon me alone

[viral ore]

i had a final today at 2

im

[sudden turret]

fried?

[viral ore]

yeah

[sudden turret]

go nap

[viral ore]

i did

im mentally tired, not physically

so its weird

oh, a few hours ago I updated windows, because on my laptop I do the Windows Insider thing

and it failed

it was like, no boot device found

so im just like wtf, but windows fixed itself after a restart

was goofy

[lone cosmos]

Look

Took one ram out still no boot

[sudden turret]

what gpu did you have?