#building-and-recc-chat

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latent bronze
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yes i know that is a 1070 but really the 1660S is slightly weaker than the 1070

prisma root
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Hey guys

void condor
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@stiff adder I got the 2200g cause I couldn't afford a GPU then, so only 4 cores

elder garden
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@fierce mauve just overclock your ram. I'm kidding (even if that is an option), but then look for a board that supports 3600 speeds

void condor
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I have managed a stable 3925 overclock on it though

stiff adder
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@void condor i did the same exact thing

fierce mauve
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@elder garden wanna help me? i need a mobo that supports ryzen 3000 out of box and is a micro atx

cursive wharf
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@latent bronze That's a specific game tho. Like look at 5700XT to 2070S. Some games have massive differences despite being a 6% overall difference

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void condor
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But it's slower in cinebench than 3850

stiff adder
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@fierce mauve i can help

elder garden
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@latent bronze can you post that picture of available 3rd gen motherboards from the get go

silver meteor
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Which is slower? It’s the 5700 right

elder garden
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for our friend slothy

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the MSI MAX variants

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of the B450 boards

silver meteor
fierce mauve
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should i just goto 3200?

latent bronze
silver meteor
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@fierce mauve yes

elder garden
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@fierce mauve

silver meteor
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3200 is fine

elder garden
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there you go

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that's the list of motherboards you should look at

fierce mauve
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3 of those are matx

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and all 3 of them dont have 3600 mhz ram

silver meteor
fierce mauve
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i need matx cant do atx

little osprey
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Warning!Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

elder garden
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good thing there are 6 of them

little osprey
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is that okay??

elder garden
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look at the other 3 in that case

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slothy

cursive wharf
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@fierce mauve That is for the CPU to say "I can only do 3200MHz RAM", not really the mobo

lime forge
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youre not getting 240fps on anything for fortnite

elder garden
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@little osprey that's just a general warning from the pcpartpicker site

lime forge
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at least i dont think so

little osprey
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alright

elder garden
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you can ignore it

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you have a compatible board if you choose a MAX variant

stiff adder
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@fierce mauve i used the MSI PRO B450M PRO-VDH MAX and its great for the cheap price

fierce mauve
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@elder garden i did, all the micro atx ones on that list, dont support 3600 ram. only 3733 ram. does that mean ill be fine with 3600 ram or i should downgrade to 3200 ram?

little osprey
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i’ve officially made the switch to amd

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thanks guys

stiff adder
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good

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one of us!

fierce mauve
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@stiff adder it'll be good with 3600mhz ram right?

ashen vapor
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Is building my first pc in a h210 a good idea?

void condor
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I can now pay a similar price for 2x8 3200 that I got 2x4 2666 for

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Ram prices are slowly dropping

elder garden
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@fierce mauve oh, so you only want a microATX board?

fierce mauve
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@elder garden yeah, bc my case only works with microATX

elder garden
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oooh I see, let me check then

stiff adder
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@fierce mauve yup, up to 3866 with a r5 3600

silver meteor
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@lime forge on all low settings, the pros stream 240fps Fortnite. I just wanna play at that frame are

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So yea

fierce mauve
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@stiff adder aight, just double checking. 3600mhz ram will work?

little osprey
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...

latent bronze
little osprey
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how’s this case

elder garden
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@fierce mauve just upgrade to 3733MHz instead of 3600MHz or to the lower supported RAM speed

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3600 isn't supported

cursive wharf
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@little osprey bad airflow. It's quite closed off

little osprey
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could you possibly send some that have better airflow

fierce mauve
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@elder garden aight

little osprey
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preferable rgb

silver meteor
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@elder garden my build has 3200 with a 3800x, is that bad

little osprey
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and not crazy expensive

latent bronze
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@little osprey I would suggest going with a mesh front than a glass front

void condor
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I got that cheap F3 matx case or whatever it was

cursive wharf
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@little osprey lot of the time you can just get a cheap case and then a pack of RGB fans for cheaper.
Decent cheap RGB fans can be found from upHere 5 pack RGB or something on amazon. About $35 I think it is

void condor
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I only use 2 included fans, temps are fine

elder garden
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@silver meteor not at all, the thing is that the new AMD chips tend to synergize better with higher Memory (RAM) clock speeds

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void condor
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Front intake, rear exhaust

indigo saddle
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I bought a 3900x with a 2070 Super

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Cause 5700 XT drivers give me Anxiety

latent bronze
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Found out recently my cousin can finally use the 3000 series lol

little osprey
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that’s another thing, i’m using an AIO cooler so how many extra fans would i need

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just case included fine right

silver meteor
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@elder garden thank you. In game how many frames will be lost from 3600 to 3200

void condor
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I'm using the stock cooler

cursive wharf
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Well I mean you can also just push the IFCLCK instead of getting super high end memory

silver meteor
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2?

latent bronze
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Found out from Tech Yes that my cousin's A320 board can use Ryzen 3000 lol

elder garden
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I'm not sure, but the difference isn't that significant

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@silver meteor

silver meteor
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@elder garden ah okay, thank you.

elder garden
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barely anyone really even notices it

latent bronze
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So i might get him a Ryzen 5 3400G

silver meteor
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@elder garden you’re very helpful. As long as I can’t notice it it’s fine

oblique estuary
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whats the difference between m.2 (m) and M.2(b+m)?

cursive wharf
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NVMe protocol vs SATA protocol

silver meteor
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NVMe is better

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I heard

elder garden
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as far as I understood it, it's just a different connector @oblique estuary

reef pivot
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NVMetter

oblique estuary
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so if the MOBO supports: M.2 Socket 3 with M Key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 storage devices support (SATA mode & PCIE mode)

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What am I using?

reef pivot
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M.2 with an M Key SATA 3 and not NVMe

latent bronze
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NVMe is better if you are doing more than just gaming

oblique estuary
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ok so this is not a good mobo then...

elder garden
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B and M refers to the physical connector type itself. Both will plug however in a M.2 Socket.

2240, 2260 and 2280 refer to the dimensions of the card itself. 22 being width 40/60/80 being length (all in mm) Abbreviated to combine the two. @oblique estuary

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Faster and newer drives will usually come with M physical connectors as it allows higher speeds of 4 x PCI-E lanes vs B physical connectors allowing 2 X PCI-E lanes.

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-from the pcpartpicker forum

oblique estuary
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so The connector on the Mobo is ok?

cursive wharf
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Isnt M+B SATA?

elder garden
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no that's the SATA connector you are talking about

reef pivot
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No, M & B refers to the M.2 connector

elder garden
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it's a different standard

oblique estuary
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its an asus prime x470

elder garden
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one supports higher speeds, the other doesn't

cursive wharf
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M+B SSDs usually is a SATA protocol tho

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from what I have seen

elder garden
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M allows 4XPCIE lanes, B only 2

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so faster drives usually are M

reef pivot
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@oblique estuary which Asus Mobo are you using?

loud drift
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Where does one get a legit cheap window key from?

oblique estuary
little osprey
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i think this is good for a tower

elder garden
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@loud drift G2A

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I got mine there, got no issues

cursive wharf
loud drift
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Yes @little osprey I have that same case

latent bronze
little osprey
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does it come with any preinstalled fans @loud drift

loud drift
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Got mine for $60 in White and black.

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Yes. 1 in back and 1 in front.

little osprey
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okay

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so with my aio

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i should be good

cursive wharf
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I assume that is more for "M key" vs "B key" vs "M+B key". Where B key by itself is PCIe 2x

elder garden
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you might be right Hei

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I haven't done much research on that topic myself

oblique estuary
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so is the prime a good mobo?

cursive wharf
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I just never seen a M+B having PCIe before

reef pivot
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@oblique estuary You gotta buy an M.2 SSD M Key with a SATA III Interface, should be more than enough

oblique estuary
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Im sorry for being confused...

elder garden
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yeah, storage doesn't really increase your gaming performance in any way, it just helps with load times in case you play that specific game a lot

silver meteor
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What is an AIO

cursive wharf
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All in One

strong burrow
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Looking to build a pc soon any recommendations on where to hug parts

elder garden
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so faster storage is mostly used for a faster and more snappier windows experience

void condor
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@silver meteor All In One

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Water cooler

loud drift
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I went with the B450 Tomahawk Max @oblique estuary

oblique estuary
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I def want fast storage. Im running off a HDD right now

silver meteor
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@void condor ohh okay

void condor
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So pump, res, radiator etc are all together

small meteor
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Hell

elder garden
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@oblique estuary just get a cheap Intel 660p 1TB M.2 NVME SSD

small meteor
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*hello

cursive wharf
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@oblique estuary NVMe is generally a waste. Just getting a decent SATA SSD is fine

oblique estuary
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I like the white on the asus mobo...

elder garden
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for like $99

small meteor
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Yeah

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Ue right

void condor
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Someone could probably give a better explanation but its a CPU cooler

elder garden
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you'll literally FEEL the difference in how snappy your system is @oblique estuary

small meteor
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Yeah

oblique estuary
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will that drive work on the asus board?

cursive wharf
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@elder garden 660p is back to $130 now

small meteor
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Yupe

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It work

elder garden
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oh, is it? still cheaper than other options I belive

latent bronze
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@elder garden for SSD's for gaming wise you can't really tell the difference between a Sata and a M.2

elder garden
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believe*

glad hemlock
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offers everyone a cookie since ijust joined ^

elder garden
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not even a faster HDD @latent bronze

glad hemlock
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^^

elder garden
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except load times, but who cares about that

oblique estuary
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I have a samsung evo 512gb on my list atm

cursive wharf
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Eh. Samsung is generally overpriced

void condor
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I have a 256 ssd for boot and a 2tb HDD for storage, I'm happy with it

glad hemlock
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samsung is reliable though

oblique estuary
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load times is a concern for me because of my modded games

cursive wharf
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so are all the other brands @glad hemlock

glad hemlock
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@cursive wharf ive just had the best luck with em is all

loud drift
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Only supports up to 3466 Memory speed tho @oblique estuary and his $20-$30 more than the Tomahawk Max. But you do whatever you need to do.

elder garden
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inb4 modded skyrim and minecraft 😂 @oblique estuary /s

cursive wharf
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Did you really try other brands that muc htho?

stiff adder
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@edgy viper i love the meshify c.

glad hemlock
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for hard drives? Seagate mostly

stiff adder
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and the rest of it too

oblique estuary
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Im running 200+ mods on skyrim se and fallout 4

glad hemlock
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i treid a couple of others in the past years ago and meh

cursive wharf
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@loud drift That's the mobo max based on the Zen+ arch. On Zen2 it supports 3600 quite well

glad hemlock
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oh wow jess

cursive wharf
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You can look at the memory QVL for that mobo

elder garden
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I mean don't get me wrong, the Samsung 970pro M.2 SSD compared to the intel 660p is not even worth comparing, samsung's SSD kills intel's. But realistically you won't notice a difference.

cursive wharf
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Um, EX920?

elder garden
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so there is no point in spending the extra money

cursive wharf
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Sabrent Rocket

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ADATA sx8200pro

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Ex920 being on par with 970 evo, other two are on par with 970 Evo plus

elder garden
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oh damn, definitely worth checking them out, especially if they are cheaper

cursive wharf
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Only 970 Pro realistically comes out on top

loud drift
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I bought the 500gb 860 evo for $45. I think it's worth it.

glad hemlock
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@elder garden im upgrading mine soon, no matter what i do everything will be way better xD

elder garden
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well, if you do it right that is

glad hemlock
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pushing 10 years old on my current computer

elder garden
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but with the information available online and in forums/discords

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it's really hard to go wrong

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all you are really discussing are details

loud drift
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Any thoughts on the xfx 5700xt Thicc III? I like the style...and the name. But how does it hold up?

elder garden
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and a great tip I can give you for building a new PC is to NOT watch the Verge's PC building tutorial. It's goddamn awful

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LOL

loud drift
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But I bought myself some tweezers

elder garden
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that's how you can brick a PC even with new components

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elder garden
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@loud drift xD

glad hemlock
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gotta ask, what video was that

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and whatd they do?

oblique estuary
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will a mobo run ram at 3600mhz if it only say it will support 3466?

loud drift
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I love how people still bring that video up

glad hemlock
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@oblique estuary from my understanding, it will work as the lower of the 2

elder garden
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it's pains me to link the video @glad hemlock I don't want to be responsible for your eyes burning and the mental damage it will cause upon you

glad hemlock
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lol

elder garden
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but I could...

loud drift
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Don’t laugh at the verge build. They will call you a racist.

elder garden
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oh, they deleted the video

glad hemlock
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oh well

elder garden
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or wait, maybe they've just hidden in

loud drift
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People reuploaded it

tight bluff
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I dont know what you're talking about, but since you said its an awful deleted video, I knew its the verges.

loud drift
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There

glad hemlock
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aaaaaaand saved for later

elder garden
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omg you found it

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ahahahha

tight bluff
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Kyle's "Lyle reacts" video in response to that PC video is so much better than watching the actual video

loud drift
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Don’t forget your Swiss Army knife

tight bluff
elder garden
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I love this version of it more

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instead of 1 guy reacting, you get 8

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lol

tight bluff
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Get your anti static wristband on

acoustic oyster
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bro that vid is amazinf

elder garden
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and while reviewing the awful building tutorial they give you some great insight

loud drift
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‘Suffocates PSU’...damn that's bold.

elder garden
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@tight bluff and then he doesn't even ground it

tight bluff
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As lyle said, he's not fighting static, he's fighting cancer

elder garden
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ahahha

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I also loved it when he hyped up the CPU

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"yeah, we got it"

indigo crow
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Yooooooo I’ve got around £1100 to spend what should I buy

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loud drift
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@tight bluff he's not fighting static, he's fighting cancer

tight bluff
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"Only available at every major retailer"

elder garden
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oh, cursing isn't allowed? I see, mb mb.

sudden turret
elder garden
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mb mb

tight bluff
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@indigo crow Whats important to you in a PC, workstation/streaming/videowork? Or more GPU intensive tasks like gaming?

reef pivot
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hek

tight bluff
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Or a mix

indigo crow
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Gaming most likely

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Maybe some machine learning at some point like mathematical modelling but will need more of a budget for that

elder garden
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oh, an RTX card for sure then

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super good with machine learning

boreal jacinth
loud drift
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He chose the ram for 2 reasons...1 it has LEDs...im dead 💀

indigo crow
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5700 xt looks good for the gaming side of thinks

elder garden
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more RGB = more FPS, and that's pure FACTS /s

tight bluff
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Puts them both in next to eachother instead of in alternate ram slots

elder garden
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😂

little osprey
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If you plan on any kind of tensorflow, PyTorch, ResNet, w/e CUDA work , you'll be welloff with a 2060 or better

loud drift
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I forgot my bad.

elder garden
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yeah, I got a 2060 myself and it's great

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all of the above are super smooth

indigo crow
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If I’m lucky a 2070 super on offer will come up 😄

boreal jacinth
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other then that nothing to say? @little osprey

loud drift
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I'm going with 5700 xt Thicc III just for the name.

elder garden
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with that said, more CUDA cores, better performance. But it all depends on your budget @indigo crow

loud drift
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Plus it is, in my opinion, the sexiest looking card.

elder garden
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but does it have LEDs?

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😂

indigo crow
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@boreal jacinth decent build but are you gonna oc

little osprey
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what

loud drift
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It's too Thicc for LEDs

elder garden
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aight brb guys

loud drift
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I don't care for RGB. I care for Thiccness

compact latch
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I would love to upgrade to a new cpu and gpu but my setup will be fine for a couple of years lol

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tight bluff
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I still cant really get my head over how going from a 3900x to 3950X and 5700 XT Anniversary to 2080S is a £500 improvement

boreal jacinth
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@indigo crow probably

tight bluff
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Im still in consideration of whether I want a 3900X or 3950X though.

indigo crow
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That case might not be great then like a hotbox @boreal jacinth

warped coyote
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i dont remenber
what was so bad about the verge video again? besides what he did with the thermal paste, and putting the MOBO first?

tight bluff
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Didnt put fans on the CPU cooler's radiator

boreal jacinth
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I got 2 extra fans for that @indigo crow

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Pull in front

tight bluff
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Put the ram sticks next to eachother rather than one space apart

boreal jacinth
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And push in bacj

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Back*

indigo crow
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I’d go top to bottom

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Well bottom to top

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Even

loud drift
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He placed psu upside down.

boreal jacinth
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Is that possible with tjat case

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That*

tight bluff
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Other things which are more lack of knowledge rather than "problems" like saying a livestrong armstrong band around the wrist connected to nothing was antistatic and that vibration pads for the PSU were insulation pads so the PSU doesnt short circuit on the case and that

indigo crow
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@boreal jacinth im not sure but to save some cash look at the Corsair airflow

boreal jacinth
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I think from bottom is not possible in that case

tight bluff
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Oh and only screwed in the CPU cooler with only 3 screws not 4

boreal jacinth
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Power supply goes under the thing

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The pull in front and push in back/ top is the only good option in that case tbh

tight bluff
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Called zipties/cableties "tweezers" and said for a tool you just need a swiss army knife "hopefully" with a screwdriver on it

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Didnt know what an IO shield is

loud drift
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At least he put the gpu in the correct slot. But he doesn't give the correct reason why.

warped coyote
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oh yeah
he did that

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wow

loud drift
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Oh man. I don't have one of those CPU installers. What should I do?!?

warped coyote
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psu upside down
how could he do that?

loud drift
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I love how he mentions the CPU installer but doesn't actually use it.

warped coyote
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anti-static bracelet without grounding it

tight bluff
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I mean frankly if you rewatch the video it surprises you he got "build it on a table" correct

loud drift
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Cable management has left the chat...

warped coyote
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im gonna watch the video with 8 reacts
its gonna be funny

little osprey
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The supercut reactions video is great. Even some of them get partss wrong though

warped coyote
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why unbox everything?
its going to make a lot of mess

past forge
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What would be a natural upgrade for a i5 6600 and rx 470 build for 2019 1080p build or is it even worth it

deep yacht
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CPU, Mobo, Ram if aiming for 100+ FPS first, then GPU. I wouldn't aim for any less XD

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I would rather drop my game settings than have less than 100 FPS

stark spruce
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You mean you don't like playing slide show simulator?

deep yacht
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Ye and if FPs is lower than 75 or so i get headaches while gaming. Same with monitor HZ if any less than 85Hz

random tangle
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Just wait a little bit more for prices to drop down and upgrade than, new video cards incoming.

limpid star
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has anyone used the XPG Invader case for their build? it will be my next build case but I haven't even seen any reviews for it.

fossil hedge
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hello

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still got a quiestion

oblique estuary
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so is the price increase between 2060s vs 2070s worth it?

round musk
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Debating on starting to redo my office, and am wondering if it's worth it to water cool a build.

tight bluff
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@oblique estuary If you want to go budget there is no reason to buy 2060(s) vs the 5700 XT, the 2070S is worth it if you can afford it, Id still step up to the 2080S if you could but if not 2070s seems good enough after hours I spent looking into it.

oblique estuary
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no way I can get a 2080s

round musk
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what's the total budget for ur build?

oblique estuary
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so 5700xt over 2060s?

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Im looking at 1300max

round musk
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well PlusNomad mentioned if you want to go budget, then go for the 5700XT, but if you have money and can afford the 2070s it is worth it.

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What's the pc mainly for? gaming?

oblique estuary
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gaming and dungeon building

round musk
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If you have the budget to get the 2070 it'd be worth it to get that over the 5700XT, but if you don't have the room to get it, then go for the 5700 XT.

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2070 should perform better for gaming over the 5700 XT.

oblique estuary
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I run some really heavily modded Fallout and Skyrim SE

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And use art type programs to build scenery and maps for my DnD game

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I just worry about radeon graphics

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Ive had lots of issues with them in the past

tight bluff
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I mean, it seems AMD is holding back on the GPUs recently so they can go all out ham dominating the CPUs, but the 5700/XT are really good cards. Like recently they've been very impressive. Sure in the past historically they were "bad" at everything but Id trust that card to give the performance per cost it claims and be reliable for as long as I would an Nvidia card with a reputable cooler on it like from Asus etc

oblique estuary
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I had a computer that went through 3 radeon cards within its first year

tight bluff
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How many years ago was that?

cursive wharf
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@round musk Note there, you mean 2070S. A 5700XT performs better than a 2070 non S

round musk
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Yeah I noticed the mistake just forgot about editing it.

oblique estuary
cursive wharf
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@oblique estuary That mobo has no BIOS flashback, so you need an older CPU to upgrade

coarse coral
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the ryzen 3700x already has an air cooler.

cursive wharf
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unless you're lucky and it has been preupdated. Also 212 is overpriced

oblique estuary
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I thought most asus boards (esp ROG boards) had the flashback?

cursive wharf
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No, only the high end x470 like their hero series

latent bronze
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Guess Jess doesn't like the MSI board and case i recommended

cursive wharf
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It's MSI that has them

simple leaf
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BIOS should already be updated by vender at this point, especially popular/high demand and from reputable venders

cursive wharf
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should is a key word

simple leaf
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just msg them and there ya go

oblique estuary
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huh. well, I can make use of a 2200g I have laying around from my father building a PC a year ago

cursive wharf
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I also think EVGA BQ is a group regulated PSU

oblique estuary
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I don't like the red lighting effects on the tomahawk, sorry

cursive wharf
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need to check on that

latent bronze
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@simple leaf most companies are doing refreshed of the boards which is why the MSI Max series looks a little different than the older B450 boards

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and are 3000 ready

oblique estuary
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ASUS's site says the new ones are coming shipped with updated bios

cursive wharf
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@oblique estuary I suggest switching the PSU as it's group regulated

oblique estuary
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.... ok?

latent bronze
#

Asus could say that but you have no idea if the vendor has that

cursive wharf
#

Basically the 5v and 12v rails are regulated together. A load on the 12v will now affect the 5v rail

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which at high loads can cause instabilities

latent bronze
#

@warm nova was it you that bought that Rosewill PSU?

cursive wharf
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Also for $40 pretty sure that is like Scyth Mugen area

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@latent bronze which PSU, photon or something?

latent bronze
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I think so i just forgot who bought it

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or i think it was like Hive

cursive wharf
#

photon is somewhat okay

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not the best to get a 750w+ for a photon tho

latent bronze
#

One PSU i would say to avoid is Apevia

cursive wharf
#

Hive is pretty garbage tho

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Dont know about the Apevia one

oblique estuary
latent bronze
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Bought a Apevia 550w PSU turns out it was only 500w instead and i was lucky cause the max my system required at the time was 400w

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Apevia doesn't really have the best rep

cursive wharf
#

12v rail only maxed out at 500w?

latent bronze
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also i had a friend test out the PSU

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couldn't return it because by the time my friend had time it was 2 months past

cursive wharf
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I wouldnt go for hive tho

oblique estuary
#

is that PSU an ok brand?

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and dang, you folks are really up for that tomahawk.

cursive wharf
#

not really about the brand but more about the PSU itself

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getting a PSU by brand is a bad idea. Like the Seasonic SII for example. Pretty garbage PSU

oblique estuary
#

I just am nervous about off brand stuff

latent bronze
#

what off brand?

cursive wharf
#

Also going for MSI so that you dont have to worry about dealing with BIOS updating. Sure most of the time BIOSes should be updated but that isnt a 100% chance

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@latent bronze FSP Group Hydro GE PSU

oblique estuary
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and are you going to recomend the H500 as well?

cursive wharf
#

H500 from, Coolermaster?

oblique estuary
#

yes

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thats what lots of people are telling me to use for the case

cursive wharf
#

that one a mesh front? Not like you have to use it as there are other mesh front ones

latent bronze
cursive wharf
#

nah

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a bit pricy

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upHere is real cheap surprisingly

latent bronze
#

for triple fans with a remote and dual RGB?

oblique estuary
#

so whats wrong with the p350x?

cursive wharf
#

legit $35/$40 for a 5 pack of RGB

latent bronze
#

and a remote to even control the fan speeds

cursive wharf
#

they have a 3 pack, dont remember the price. Pretty sure they have a controller, dont know about remote

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also, 3 pin fans can be controled via voltage

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so like all fans are capable of being controlled

latent bronze
#

Newegg only sells the BeQuiet fans in singles

cursive wharf
#

that's the 3 fan pack

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has a controller that connects to the mobo RGB headers

latent bronze
#

oh ya those ugly fans lol

cursive wharf
latent bronze
#

Well i am pretty much recommending from my own personal use

cursive wharf
#

It'd be nice if there were some real pics rather than rendered models tho

latent bronze
cursive wharf
#

I could never have my stuff do that for RGB

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(if I even had RGB products)

warm nova
#

sorry, I was putting the kids in bed.

cursive wharf
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All I got is an RGB mouse. Just slowly transistions from cyan to dark blue, then back to cyan

warm nova
#

Yes I now have 2 rosewill hive power supplies

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an 850 watt that I have been using for about a hear, and the new one is a 650 watt

cursive wharf
#

Hive lacks a lot of modern protections

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so uhh, be careful when pushing that thing for a load

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or during a blackout

latent bronze
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The fans there anyways came with my case

cursive wharf
#

ah, that's also quite understandable

latent bronze
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But they are very good at keeping my system very cool

cursive wharf
#

good pun, I applaud

latent bronze
#

Well when i was using the Deepcool Matrexx 55 when i had the RX 570 the max temps (after replacing the thermal paste) i got was 71c but when i moved to that case the max was around 62c

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now i am using a 1660 and max is always 60c

cursive wharf
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Seems like a silkscreen paste job

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not really bad or anything

warm nova
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my 850 watt hive is the older design. its in a system with a 2600 and rx480 so I don't think its ever going to push it.

latent bronze
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That paste job my temps was 85c and sometimes spiking up to 90c

warm nova
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the one I just bought is the hive s which I honestly didn't read any reviews on. I needed something for a pentium and 1050ti system and it was on sale

cursive wharf
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Not even about pushing close to its 850w really. Just pushing it with a decent amount of wattage on a PSU with little protections feels sketch

latent bronze
#

Also that was having the fans at 100%

cursive wharf
#

I'd say that more has to do with the paste itself rather than the paste job

warm nova
#

my main system is on an evga 850g2L

latent bronze
#

Well when i replaced and only put it on the die itself that is when i was getting lower temps and using like 60% fan speeds

cursive wharf
#

The die is completely covered so the application of the paste should be good. Just not good paste in general was the issue

latent bronze
#

the paste i used anyways and i find it is great is Deepcool Z9 which is also a non conductive paste

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But ya ever since i used that Deepcool case i never want to use their cases again

warm nova
#

when i repasted my rx580 my temps went down about 6C at max load torture test, but gaming temps dropped considerably more than that.

cursive wharf
#

and that's why you always look at reviews for everything

latent bronze
#

video reviews and reviews on Newegg was mainly positive so that is why i got it

cursive wharf
#

Well I guess it's mainly about the in depth reviews. Like the case reviews from GN or something

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noise normalized perf and such

little osprey
#

The most expensive part of my build is my headset. An $80 Corsair Void pro.

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gamer moment

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my current build at least

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new stuff isn't in yet

latent bronze
#

for GPU's now i only focus on a company that focus on one type

cursive wharf
#

I generally wouldnt go with gaming headsets but okay

little osprey
#

Yeahhh

latent bronze
#

like my 1660 is from EVGA

little osprey
#

it's not one of my proudest purchases but the 5.1 Dolby Digital surround mixed with bass adjustment is fun

latent bronze
#

my headset is 2.1 and i like it

cursive wharf
#

sounds like a gimmick not gonna lie

little osprey
#

the 5.1 or the 2.1

cursive wharf
#

5.1

latent bronze
#

mine is from Redragon as well

little osprey
#

How so? @cursive wharf

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@latent bronze ooooh Redragon has some spicy lookin speakers

latent bronze
#

but i am not using that mouse

cursive wharf
#

some decent headsets with just one speaker per ear can do software sound manipulation for the same effect

latent bronze
cursive wharf
#

I see someone likes redragon

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I mean they are quite good tho to be fair

latent bronze
#

Well for the price you know

cursive wharf
#

I dont have any experience or knowledge with their headsets tho

latent bronze
#

and the mouse feels great

cursive wharf
#

and I always feel sketched out when looking at "gaming" headsets

latent bronze
#

oh ya the included mouse pad you see there is machine washable

cursive wharf
#

That's nice. Dont need to worry about all the nacho and dorito stains then

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unless you're into that

latent bronze
#

oh me it would be cigarette ashes stains lol

cursive wharf
#

ah, I see

latent bronze
#

but ya feels nice and smooth

cursive wharf
#

I just have some really old mousepad from my parents. Fujitsu Network Communications Inc

latent bronze
cursive wharf
#

RGB, automatic 30% more perf

little osprey
#

Yeah Hei but

5.1 surround sound

cursive wharf
#

yeah but, simulated 5.1 on better speakers....

latent bronze
#

For headsets i really don't notice the difference between 5.1 and 2.1

little osprey
#

don't mention my speakers they're like 2010 ish iMicro ones, a little busted too

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lol

latent bronze
#

my speakers are from Logitech

cursive wharf
#

I can be privileged for saying I have decent headphones and speakers

latent bronze
#

somewhat cheap type but sounds pretty good

cursive wharf
#

Harmon Kardon Soundsticks III for speakers and Sony 1000xm2 for headet

latent bronze
little osprey
#

I really want to get the GOGroove Bass PULSE 2.1 speakers. They look sleek as hECK

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subwoofer was my misunderstanding a part

cursive wharf
#

my speakers look like modern art

little osprey
#

Look at this baddy

cursive wharf
little osprey
#

oh snap

latent bronze
little osprey
#

Dangggg

latent bronze
#

Both the CPU and GPU are using Noctua coolers lol

cursive wharf
#

That a coffee machine or something?

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lol

latent bronze
#

full gaming PC

cursive wharf
#

That a dac/amp in the bottom there?

latent bronze
#

i believe so

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and that is a full water cooler PC in the bottom

cursive wharf
#

If I were doing a PC desk i'd like it to be more like an actual "desktop". Like that one desk PC case with the top of the desk being glass showing the PC

latent bronze
#

i like it cause with a bigger monitor you can drop down the table part to have it like a TV unit thing for watching movies and such

little osprey
#

@latent bronze Dannnggg bro I kinda like that desk ngl

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Wait, did he do that in the fireplace???

latent bronze
#

the bottom there is not a fireplace it is the PC

little osprey
#

oH I see

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OHH wait the video you sent is the same as the picture

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that makes more sense

#

the gaming pc desks look amazing

#

so hot

latent bronze
#

Those desks are too common now

#

You had almost everyone make one

little osprey
#

Have you seen the thermal take battle station?

latent bronze
#

At least with DIY Perks he did it more unique

little osprey
#

I kinda want to do that myself, but it's just so cliche I might as well keep it in the case

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Although it'd be nice to have the extra space

latent bronze
#

There are people that use a cheap Ikea desk and built in the drawer

little osprey
#

I have some hand me down L shape desk

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but it's too big

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Like I have a loft bed that this is all under, with my 55" tv and xbox one

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I have two desks combined

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1.5m metres each

latent bronze
#

I built my desk

little osprey
#

I wanna build mine tbh

latent bronze
#

cheaper and looks better

little osprey
#

Right into the corner with some carbon fiber or something to finish the top

latent bronze
#

You could honestly spend about 60$ on the wood and such and sell it for like 150$ after

little osprey
#

yeah

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so 25 square feet of this vinyl carbon fiber decal stuff is 36 bucks

#

you could wrap the whole desk

#

I might get my dad to build me a desk

latent bronze
#

I still need to build my bartop arcade

still roostBOT
#
Hito#8874 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

latent bronze
#

no swearing

little osprey
#

..

latent bronze
#

Server is PG-13 only

cursive wharf
#

I like how it publicly says that "[person] has been warned for [reason]"

#

kinda interesting

little osprey
#

I might start making my home into a smart home

latent bronze
#

oh if you post like an invite for another discord the bot will give the same warning but reason for invites

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not telling you to do it but just a fair warning

cursive wharf
#

I'd expect so. I was just interested how it says it publically. Im use to LTT where it's auto delete and a private warn

latent bronze
#

in #links-and-selfpromotion you're only allowed to post your own video's you made and if you are streaming your mixer, twitch or YouTube channel

#

But ya for DIY Perks he has a lot of cool video's like turning an old laptop into a HTPC desktop

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other things as well like lighting and making a false wallpaper TV

cursive wharf
#

false wallpaper TV? Meaning like fake fireplace or something else?

latent bronze
#

Well you know how LG made a wallpaper TV

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he mainly made like a wall in a way but have the TV inside of it and on the side things like a DVD player and the controls

cursive wharf
#

that's a laptop? Lol

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but yeah now I understand

latent bronze
#

ya i like what he does it tends to look like a work of art

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another video he did and i want to find an old TV/Monitor in the trash is making a fake window with light

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even if the monitor or TV is broken you can still do it

cursive wharf
#

ah. I plan on doing some monitor on the side of my case at some point. Like that case from the LTT giveaway

latent bronze
#

I was trying to look into doing a smart mirror on the side of my case lol

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but more for things like monitoring temps

cursive wharf
#

I just wanted some interesting animation. Also could mean I could skip all RGB products and just have the ultimate RGB product... a monitor

latent bronze
#

Oh you say back then the blunder from LTX right

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That is from the LTT convention

cursive wharf
#

LowSpecGamer does a good job at doing cheap builds

latent bronze
#

Ya but he made Doom look good on a 320$ gaming PC that Linus never updated the drivers on

little osprey
#

yo

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Do you guys have rgb strips under your desk?

latent bronze
#

nope

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my case is under my desk so i don't need to

little osprey
#

ah yeah

vast hazel
#

I am a 13 year old standing at 5 foot 10 inches

#

you are jealous

little osprey
#

a little off topic but alright, my boy Jackson was 5'11 at 13 and is currently 6'3"

#

anyways moving back to the topic

#

Optiplex 780 is decent to work with for mega low budget pcs

#

Amen. I've done a few 2nd/3rd gen optiplex builds i3/i5 2120 or 3570 with rx580's, gtx 1070's.

#

dang, I'm stuck to Core 2 LGA 775 stuff

#

I got a Q6600 in rn but it came with an E8400

#

I like the extra 2 cores for Blender, I use it sometimes

proven compass
#

@latent bronze I've been subbed to him for years. Felt so bad when he lost all his work. Talk about quality over quantity. Matt is amazing.

sharp cape
#

How would I go about getting a recommendation or rating on a build I want to do? Could I send my system builder page?

sterile wave
#

sounds like a good idea to me

celest horizon
sharp cape
#

oh okay

#

opinions on this?

#

I know I'm probably going to get stabbed for picking intel for my cpu but it's just something a bit more familiar for me

#

I honestly don't know the difference I just don't quite know how to work with amd

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I only plan on picking one of the 2 ram options

lyric thistle
#

I've gotten used to the Intel Core series naming system, if just superficially

sharp cape
#

I'm just wondering if the parts are reasonable near each other's specs

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and if it seems like a worthwhile build

#

I'm currently running on a laptop with a 9th i7 and 2070 maxq

lyric thistle
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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probably are

sterile wave
#

quite the beefy build iindeed

#

what are ur plans?

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gaming mostly? streaming?

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any overclocking? 👀

sharp cape
#

mostly gaming

lyric thistle
#

imagine your ambitions being to underclock

sharp cape
#

its just my laptop gets very hot

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and I've always wanted to try a pc build

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so may as well just get the best I can without going over 2k uncomfortably

lyric thistle
#

you might be able to replace the thermal compound on the laptop if you haven't already

sharp cape
#

I have no idea how to

lyric thistle
#

ah

sharp cape
#

I have a msi gs75 stealth

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so the motherboard is flipped iirc

lyric thistle
#

oo

sharp cape
#

i7 9th and a 2070 max q

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1tb ssd and 16ram

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I just have no idea how to change the thermal paste on cpu even though I know it could help a lot

lyric thistle
#

video disassemblies are pretty common on YT

sharp cape
#

I also at the same time just don't want to mega overwork my laptop with how often I play

surreal surge
#

So I'm currently running an intel i5 2700 and a (probably fake, official drivers don't work on it) GTX 1060, I'm thinking of upgrading to a newer CPU (most games max out my cpu when my gpu is at like 30%). Would these parts accomplish those tasks, and do I need to worry about any BIOS jankness when installing the new components?

vocal dune
#

yea thats a good choice for memory cpu and motherboard for an amd build

celest horizon
vocal dune
#

like forks is saying its more convenient to use pc part picker

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instead of pictures

celest horizon
#

I recommend the b450 gaming plus max for $100 , but a killer deal elsewhere could be better

lyric thistle
sterile wave
#

r5 3600 might be a little too much 1060 tbh

vocal dune
#

i would not liquid metal an ssd

sterile wave
#

is it 3gb or 6gb?

vocal dune
#

its not needed

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nvm

#

i thought that was an ssd in that video thumbnail

lyric thistle
#

xd

vocal dune
#

lol

surreal surge
#

3gb, but most the games I play are highly CPU intensive rather than GPU (rocket league, CS:GO, etc.)

celest horizon
#

3600 1060 is a decent 1080p low/min/competitive settings csgo build if you get a nice used 1060 deal

lyric thistle
#

I've just been opening my computers up to just stare at the pcb lately

surreal surge
#

plus, I got the gpu for like 45 bucks from goodwill

lyric thistle
#

studying

sterile wave
#

wow thats nuts

#

wtf

surreal surge
#

pretty sure it's not legit, but I can't argue for the performance

#

If I had to guess it's probably a 970 with modded firmware

vocal dune
#

if you want a little bit more performance you could go with a GTX 1660 which is still a budget GPU but is between the performance range of a GTX 1060 and a GTX 1070

celest horizon
#

the b450 gaming plus (msi) will be enough to power a 3900x 1-2-3 years from now and we all know how prices drop :)

2700x was 325+ on launch, <150 just last week

surreal surge
#

I'm planning on getting a 1660 TI once I can afford it, want to get back into VR gaming

sterile wave
#

also to answer ur bios concerns

celest horizon
#

1660 is a great option, especially if you want to single pc stream, 1660 ti is a fair bit more power for not much extra $ though. Better value if you can fit it into budget.

sterile wave
#

b450 mobos that are titled MAX are ryzen 3000 ready

surreal surge
#

oooooooh

sterile wave
#

so u wont need to worry about not being able to boot

surreal surge
#

that's what that means

celest horizon
#

That board also has flashback

vocal dune
#

get a GTX 1660 SUper if your going for a ti because the super and the ti does not have a big of a difference with speed

sterile wave
#

u will probs still need to update to latest version

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but that should be ok

surreal surge
#

oh, I forgot the super series existed

vocal dune
#

and the GTX 1660 Super is cheaper then the ti

#

but you will be getting about the same performance

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and will not notice a very big of a difference

celest horizon
#

TBH - I would just accept that bios updates may be increasingly important, not like 10 years ago.

sterile wave
#

oh yeah i agree

celest horizon
#

Some will be unessesary, others may fix serious compatibility or security issues.

sterile wave
#

i meant should be ok in terms of doing it, but definitely update

celest horizon
#

Best practice would be to check enthusiast forums and see what the community suggests.
If the update isn't critical, or doesn't apply to your use case, no reason to break what's not broken.

surreal surge
#

Gocha. Never updated a BIOS before, but youtube exists

sterile wave
#

its surprisingly easy these days

celest horizon
surreal surge
#

so if it doesn't boot I'll give that a shot

celest horizon
#

Far right column shows flashback compatibility

sharp cape
#

I see I'll try it out @lyric thistle

sterile wave
#

it should boot like 99%

celest horizon
#

No, any MAX board will run zen2 out of the box

sterile wave
#

^

surreal surge
#

I should probably upgrade my psu too... haven't changed it out in 7 years

sterile wave
#

that also might be a worth while investment

lyric thistle
#

ah cool

celest horizon
#

A high quality PSU is a very smart investment IMO

lyric thistle
#

of course ^^

#

I want a 2060, so I'll need at least 500W

#

I would probably go with a 650W

celest horizon
#

80+ gold 750W EVGA G2 750W for $80 on sale for example has a 7 year warranty and I bet all but few will last double that. There are countless other brands, Corsair, Bitfenix, Supermicro, and my preference, Seasonic.

lyric thistle
#

I had to measure my PSU slot just to be sure

surreal surge
#

is EVGA any good, or should I go for a different brand. Trying to keep this kinda on the cheap

lyric thistle
#

there's also Corsair

#

idk whatever you can find that isn't sketchy

celest horizon
surreal surge
#

I think this mobo is just ATX, I can't find it in the listing anywhere :V

celest horizon
#

EVGA and corsair both source from various OEMs, much of the EVGA top end is Superflower Leadex platform , corsair likes CWT and recently Flextronics, but even their 1000W Titanium is a seasonic rebranded

surreal surge
#

based on the parts I described earlier, and a potential upgrade to a 1660 super, you think 750W is gonna be good enough? I haven't really thought about power draw until now

lyric thistle
#

how many expansion card slots?

#

oh psu

celest horizon
#

Extra headroom can't hurt, the reviews on the link ^ will suggest good options at different price points.

little osprey
scarlet inlet
#

@surreal surge 750W will be more than enough, even 650 would be plenty

little osprey
#

No, I'm not joking

scarlet inlet
#

750 will be a lil more efficient tho

tardy aurora
#

hey guys, whats an affordable graphics card, which is an upgrade from a 1060?

lone arrow
#

Hello peeps question for y’all; has anyone ever used a m.2 to pcie 3.0 adapter?

scarlet inlet
#

1660ti or 2060

little osprey
#

@scarlet inlet it's not even really worth getting a 1660 Ti anymore

#

With the 1660 Super

cursive wharf
#

@lyric thistle 2060 would be fine on a 450w PSU provided your CPU isnt super high end
@surreal surge 750w is so overkill it's hilarious. Like taking a cannon to a knife fight

scarlet inlet
#

Possibly, I would also consider a 5700 or xt version if that fits in the budget

celest horizon
#

That 2080 ti specicially has a 320W power limit, but transient power draw can fluctuate +/- 100w very roughly - 3900x can pull 150 - 200 watts under common settings, more if you want to push it

lone arrow
#

I’m trying to install elgato 4K pro into a m.2

stone star
cursive wharf
#

@scarlet inlet Only good Nvidia cards out right now are 1660S and 2080Ti. Anything else should be bought from AMD

lyric thistle
#

just a 4790

little osprey
#

Wtf

cursive wharf
#

@stone star bad RAM

#

CL is too high

little osprey
#

@stone star a 3900X and a 1660?

scarlet inlet
#

Shame of the ryzen 9 3900 @stone star

cursive wharf
#

1660Ti is overpriced

#

by a lot

tardy aurora
#

how much is the 2060

scarlet inlet
#

Way overkill for a 1660ti

stone star
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

scarlet inlet
#

About 400 @tardy aurora ?

#

I think

little osprey
#

That's a very unbalanced system

stone star
#

true

tardy aurora
#

oh not too bad then

cursive wharf
#

PSU is super overkill

lyric thistle
#

400 or smth for a 2060 right?

#

oh someone answer

#

I canny read

scarlet inlet
#

I think so yea, depends on your version Ofc

cursive wharf
#

$400 for a 2060S, $350 for a 2060

#

but also, $400 for a 5700XT and $330 for a 5700

scarlet inlet
#

Yea I’d consider the 5700 series

lyric thistle
#

I just want some rays

cursive wharf
#

5700 performs like a 2060S for $70 cheaper and 5700XT performs better than a 2060S for the same price

little osprey
cursive wharf
#

and tbh, 99.99999% you'll have fun with the rays for a week or two

little osprey
#

Is that overkill enough?

cursive wharf
#

then forget about it

lyric thistle
#

Minecraft shaders tho 😔

little osprey
#

Like. I'm legit spending a chunk of my divorce settlement on it

stone star
#

haha

lyric thistle
#

I get 7-20 fps with shaders on because gt 730

little osprey
#

Ouch

lyric thistle
#

not heavy shaders

#

but

cursive wharf
#

what, bedrock or java?

lyric thistle
#

the aesthetic I want for my creative building

#

Java

cursive wharf
#

java uses PT, not RT

little osprey
#

I should be getting an old ryzen 1400 system with a 1050 from my ex

#

Soon

cursive wharf
#

so no RT cores necessary

lyric thistle
#

tru

little osprey
#

I'll upgrade that and set it up for my roommate

burnt patio
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Thinking of upgrading my GPUs I currently have two 1080s in SLI I no that not many games support multi GPUs setups but it just looks too good my budget max is $1200, what do you recommend?

little osprey
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@burnt patio what's the rest of your setup?

cursive wharf
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a 1080 by itself should last you till next GPU launch

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let alone two

vocal dune
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but tbf most games no longer support SLI and only 1 will be used if a game does not support it

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but some games still support SLI but not a lot

burnt patio
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i7 8700k, 32GB RAM, 1200w PSU

little osprey
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Oh okay

vocal dune
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your CPU cpu is still decent and ram too

little osprey
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2080 Super or 2080 To

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Ti

cursive wharf
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No real reason to upgrade

little osprey
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If you're into that

cursive wharf
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just wait until next GPU launch

little osprey
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Why am I doing a ryzen 9 and 2080 Ti build wtf

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I need to come up with an excuse

vocal dune
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i currently upgraded to a 5700xt recently and it was worth every bit of my money

tepid jasper
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@little osprey VRS. That's why.

little osprey
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VRS?

tepid jasper
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Variable-Rate Shading

vocal dune
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whats VRS?

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hold on let me google this

tepid jasper
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use fewer shaders, which cover more chunks of pixles, lose LITTLE picture quality, get ~70% framerate.

vocal dune
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i know it now

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i just googled it

little osprey
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Ah

tepid jasper
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Turing GPUs only, it looks like.

little osprey
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Yeah idk

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It's definitely a just because thing

tepid jasper
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You running 144hz? or mor?

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more?

little osprey
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Minimum 144hz

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1440p

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Of course

tepid jasper
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yeah. then it's a good reason, provided you can find someone coding for it. grin

vocal dune
celest horizon
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2080 ti's and Turing in general are great for compute, ML/AI training, inset buzzwords etc. That's why I bought one tbh.

little osprey
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I've been looking at the MSI MEG ACE and Taichi and that Aorus one

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F @vocal dune

celest horizon
cursive wharf
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@celest horizon Is it tho? Havent heard of the RT/Tensor cores being that strong for that purpose cuz drivers

vocal dune
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i will check out that one im just trying to find a AMD motherboard that fits my $420 budget for only the motherboard

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i dont really have a small budget

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so i want something thats decent enough for around my budget of $420

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an AMD socket 4 board

cursive wharf
celest horizon
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I have neither heard not experienced that. My use case is mixed precision heavy , mostly ResNet140 , but I like experimenting with all the excitingnew stuff on the trending page of github

vocal dune
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ok thanks

cursive wharf
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I mean I dont do much of any of that stuff so I cant really say. That was said on the LTT discord from someone who does a bit more of that kind of stuff

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To which is someone decent enough I can trust a fair bit

surreal surge
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so just to confirm, the b450 max should have compatibility out of the box with third gen ryzen, without a bios update theoretically, right?

vocal dune
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yep im going with the Asus ROG X570 Crosshair VIII Hero AMD motherboard

celest horizon
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Good pick, that board and the x570 master are two of the community favorites in their tier.

cursive wharf
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@surreal surge yes

surreal surge
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cool, rip my wallet

vocal dune
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i just want the most possible top tier AMD motherboard thats within my budget

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thats all

cursive wharf
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Yeah, MSI b450 was actually so great

vernal bear
cursive wharf
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MSI x570 tho not so much

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but it's actually kind of crazy that a mobo company was able to dominate most of the budget market

vocal dune
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so is my motherboard choice good for an AMD CPU i know its way overkill for the cpu im going to be using in it but hey i just want something that has those extra things incase i need it

celest horizon
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Most reviewers / community agree the board options at the $320+ ish price are are fairly competitive and can be more heavily weighted to feature preference.

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I was between the master and C8H - only picked the master because I've had plenty of asus boards and figured both AMD and GB were worth a try.

timid bronze
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what is the best gpu for my i5 7500?

hybrid rose
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i would say a 1660ti

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@timid bronze

timid bronze
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does it matter if it is by msi or evga or anyone else?

hybrid rose
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it depends on if you know how to overclock

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if you do than it doesnt matter

timid bronze
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i dont really know but i have a friend who knows and he can help me

hybrid rose
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if you dont you might want to get the highest clock speed of them all

timid bronze
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if i overclock it by myself its better than factory oc?

hybrid rose
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technically yes if you go higher than factory oc

celest horizon
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Can't OC that chip really - not a bad thing, but I wouldn't bother.

timid bronze
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we are talking about the 1660 ti gpu @celest horizon

hybrid rose
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but the higher you go there is a higher chance of instability in your system

lyric thistle
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yep ^^

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I messed with my gt 730 in MSI Afterburner

hybrid rose
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you also have to be pretty much perfect with your voltage and that is kinda hard

timid bronze
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can you guys recommend for a 1660 ti that i will overclock by myself?

hybrid rose
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like factory oc?

celest horizon
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Ah my b. In which case ya, msi afterburner is great.

hybrid rose
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or do you mean that you do it

lyric thistle
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I o/c'd just to test things, performance boost and limits... and my computer hemorrhaged itself to cold start

hybrid rose
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i did that with my 1050ti

timid bronze
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i mean that i do it @hybrid rose

hybrid rose
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ok

timid bronze
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i have a 1050 ti now i want to upgrade it

celest horizon
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I would read around reviews and compare the vbios power limit, cooling effectiveness etc on sites like guru3d, overclock.net, techpowerup has a very comprehensive database comparing card specs

timid bronze
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ok thank you 🙂 @celest horizon

hybrid rose
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@timid bronze

timid bronze
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in my country its a lot more expensive than like buying in amazon

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oof

hybrid rose
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is there a zotac or msi one in your country?

timid bronze
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zotac no

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msi yes

hybrid rose
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then you should probably get that one

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but if your trying to get the most performance per dollar, i would recommend geting a 2070 super because the 2070 super should only get a small but bottle necked by your cpu

timid bronze
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i think its too expensive for me

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i can try maybe a 2060 or 2060 super

hybrid rose
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2060 super is better per dollar than the 2060 so you should go for that

timid bronze
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how about that

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free shipping to my country

hybrid rose
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whats the most you would spend on your gpu and what country (for calculating shipping)

timid bronze
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it will cost me 480 beacuse of import fees

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i live in israel

hybrid rose
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ok

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ive been to isreal

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my parents were born in pakistan then moved to isreal

timid bronze
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and i would spend about 1600 shekels which is about 450/460 dollars

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oh really thats nice

hybrid rose
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ok

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gimme some time to find the best gpu for you

timid bronze
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ok

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thanks bro i appreciate it

hybrid rose
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np

cursive wharf
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why not 5700 tho?

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or 5700XT?

hybrid rose
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@timid bronze

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@cursive wharf

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you mean like radeon cards?

cursive wharf
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5700XT vs 2070S. 6% perf lost for $90 less

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basically the same perf more or less

hybrid rose
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more performance per dollar too

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smart

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@timid bronze

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use that card not the 2070 super

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unless you need to use nvidia

cursive wharf
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idk about gaming x. MSI has had trouble with the new AMD cards and cooling

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Evoke and Mech OC werent good

timid bronze
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i have a 144 hz g sync monitor

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so i need nvidia

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@hybrid rose the 2070 super after imports fees is out of my budget

hybrid rose
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oh ok

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then go for the 2060 super

timid bronze
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which one

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we dont have zotac in israel

hybrid rose
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msi

timid bronze
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how about this one

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not super

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i think its a good price

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its about 400 dollars

hybrid rose
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yeah its goo

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good*

timid bronze
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what about bottleneck

hybrid rose
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cpu might slightly bottleneck the gpu

timid bronze
hybrid rose
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but to counter it you should oc the cpu

timid bronze
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ok

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thanks bro

hybrid rose
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if you see here this says you cpu is too slow for the gpu but if you oc the cpu then you might get less bottlenecked

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np

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@timid bronze

timid bronze
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what is the speed you think i can get with my cpu

strange violet
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This is what I want for my build

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I need to upgrade from my 1060 to a 2060

hybrid rose
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thats good @strange violet

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@timid bronze what is it at right noe

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now*

narrow rose
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So lets say all I really do is game and I am given a 470 motherboard and 3900X. I currently have a 8700k that is OC-ed on all cores to 5.3ghz would it be worth even thinking about switching the CPU and motherboard?

hybrid rose
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@narrow rose Dont switch unless your current cpu is giving you problems your setup right now is perfectly fine unless you want the amd for the multithreaded performance

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@narrow rose if you are doing any productive work but not much stay intel

narrow rose
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yeah my current setup isnt causing me any issues I just one a contest and got the motherboard/cpu

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*won not one

hybrid rose
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@narrow rose if you plan on doing a lot of productive work then switch to amd

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do you plan on doing prductive work on that pc

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do you stream?

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do you do youtube

strange violet
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Yea really the only advantage would be you could POSSIBLY push maybe a bit higher clock because of the base 3.8GHz compared to your current 3.7GHz. Really the only other advantage is double the cores and threads so like cosmic said if you're doing productive work it could crush

hybrid rose
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?

narrow rose
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probably going to sell the 470 moboard and 3900x and no I dont do any streaming or productivity on it

strange violet
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And the possibly higher clockspeed is hugely dependent on the silicon lottery as it is

hybrid rose
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if you want to stream you can put the 3900x in a new pc and use a capture card and stream your gameplay

narrow rose
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yeah I got really lucky on my 8700k being stable at 5.3

hybrid rose
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if not, ill buy it from you

narrow rose
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I also run it on a cheap gigabyte motherboard which I always planned on upgrading at some point but once again it doesnt cause me any issues

hybrid rose
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if you upgrade and the new mobo wont be stable at 5.3 then just get another of the same mobo

narrow rose
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yeah its like a gigabyte z370 hd3 . Everyone said the VRMs would cause problems OCing but never gave me any trouble. I feel bad though because thats the one part I cheaped out on

hybrid rose
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yeah well sometimes you get the good model while everyone else gets the bad one

timid bronze
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i have a 1050 ti now

hybrid rose
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okay thats the best card for not overclocking anything

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and to cause the least bottlenecking on your system

timid bronze
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but i need a stronger card

hybrid rose
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why

timid bronze
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240 fps for 240 hz

hybrid rose
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oh

narrow rose
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what resolution?

timid bronze
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i only play fortnite so i dont need something super strong

hybrid rose
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but the cpu is bottlenecking the gpu

timid bronze
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i play 1080p

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lowest settings

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right now i get about 150 i cap it at 144

hybrid rose
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go for the 1660ti as you were originally going for

narrow rose
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I love the 1660ti

hybrid rose
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its such a good card for the price but the amd equivalent is cheaper

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so that puts amd on top for that

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@narrow rose if you wont use your Ryzen stuff ill buy it from you

narrow rose
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yeah I'm mulling it over

hybrid rose
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ok

narrow rose
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3900x and gigabyte x470 Auros ultra

hybrid rose
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ill buy it from you for my sisters birthday

timid bronze
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i have a motherboard i dont use and it completly new

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i dont really know much about motherboards

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so i dont know if its good or not

narrow rose
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Wish the new amd cpus could hit higher base core clocks

hybrid rose
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yeah

narrow rose
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They need to put out a 3990X that can hit 5ghz on all cores now that would be amazing and I could go back to AMD

hybrid rose
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it works best with a large amount of high frequency ram

timid bronze
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what do you say about the motherboard, i think i might sell it if anyone wants it

celest horizon
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It's a great z170 mobo

narrow rose
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its ok but for older generation intel cpus 6th and 7th gen

hybrid rose
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@timid bronze i would buy this off you but i dont have intel cpus and i personally dont like them as much as amd cpus for am4 and tr4