#building-and-recc-chat

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pulsar garnet
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for $100 more

gaunt fiber
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Okay then yeah definitely going for the xt then

pulsar garnet
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join team Radeon

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i see you are already a red from your pfp

gaunt fiber
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Lol

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Currently my build is out of date almost

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I have a 1060 6gb

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Mobo is a b350m ๐Ÿ‘Ž

little osprey
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it's always going to be out of date

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every build will always be out of date lol

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in a sense

gaunt fiber
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True but I mean it's almost to the point it needs an upgrade.

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I can still run over 60fps on high depending upon the game.

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Borderlands 3 ehh like 70 to 80 on high/medium

little osprey
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bl3 was tanking super hard for me the first couple weeks it was out

pulsar garnet
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5700 XT will do fiiine

little osprey
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like, 40-50 fps

pulsar garnet
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it'll annihilate 1080p and 1440p will be a stroll

little osprey
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then it was either driver updates or updates within the engine cuz i was sitting at almost double that

gaunt fiber
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Damn

pulsar garnet
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90-100 FPS 1440p with max settings

little osprey
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but that's also in 4k fully maxed

gaunt fiber
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That's awesome @pulsar garnet

pulsar garnet
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so

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it'll do you well

gaunt fiber
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I can't wait to start my build lol

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I'm getting the thermaltake core p3 in red. Still wondering about wall mounting it lol

pulsar garnet
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and idk if the 3800X is worth it over the 3700X

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unless you find it for around $350

gaunt fiber
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I was going to ask about the cpu

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I have

pulsar garnet
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well then you're fine

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it's not really worth $400

gaunt fiber
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Yeah

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I think Amazon has it at 350

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It's a bundle with the Asus x570 crosshair viii hero

little osprey
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what

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350 for the cpu and board?

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that cannot be right

gaunt fiber
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So it's 734 bucks. Debating on whether or not that Mobo is really worth it lmao

little osprey
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oh

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was going to say...i just paid like $340 at my microcenter for a c8h

gaunt fiber
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Ohhh you thought it was 350 for both lmao.

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I wish

little osprey
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honestly unless you need the extra cores for something, just get a 3600 and take that extra money into a gpu

gaunt fiber
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That desk though

pulsar garnet
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i think best buy has it for $355

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the 3800X

gaunt fiber
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Just trying to achieve a good 90fps+ on new titles basically

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So I figured the 3800x would be decent

pulsar garnet
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what resolution?

gaunt fiber
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The new monitor I'm getting is 2560x1080

little osprey
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tbh, the $150 on the 3800x won't offer much gaming performance unless you're streaming and stuff

gaunt fiber
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Nah

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No streaming for me

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Just gaming

pulsar garnet
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ig you could get a 3600 or 3600X then

little osprey
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yea i agree

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i would say just pocket that $150 and

gaunt fiber
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Okay cool saves me money lol

pulsar garnet
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or put that 150 into a GPU upgrade

little osprey
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yep

pulsar garnet
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like maybe a 2080

little osprey
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clairvoyant

pulsar garnet
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but if you're just doing 1080 ultrawide maybe not

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but it gives headroom for 1440p / 1440p uw

gaunt fiber
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21:9 ratio 30 inch

little osprey
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that pixel density tho

gaunt fiber
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200hz

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Up to 200 anyhow

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I'd like to get over 120 fps on most games but I'm sure I'll need more than a 3600x

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Probably not tbh

little osprey
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you're getting it backwards, you're going to be much more gpu limited when pushing for high fps

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having a fast cpu helps but you will see more returns with a better gpu vs a better processor in most gaming cases

gaunt fiber
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I'm pretty new to pc lol my bad

little osprey
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i didn't mean for that to sound dismissive lol

gaunt fiber
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Lmao your good

little osprey
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if i had a choice between a 3600x/2080s or a 3800x/5700xt the choice is pretty clear for me

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but the 3600x+2080s is at least $150 more

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so they're not really equals

gaunt fiber
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Yeah

maiden torrent
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hey

little osprey
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good evening

gaunt fiber
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So then what's a good Mobo for the 3600x

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I'm not sure if the 570 will work. Motherboards are so weird lmao

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Nvm found another bundle lmao

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Damn that saves me 300 dollars ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

little osprey
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this is a pretty nice, inexpensive x570 if you must have x570

gaunt fiber
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Doesn't have to be x570. Built in wifi is a plus. But doesn't matter the brand or make

little osprey
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wifi ๐Ÿคฎ well tbh i am pretty happy with my c8h

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most boards with wifi are $100+ more

gaunt fiber
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Damn I have a wireless adapter so I mean it doesn't have to be built in lol. I can't reach my router so sadly it has to be wireless

little osprey
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i don't use the wifi, but the built in bluetooth is nice for my elite v2 controller

gaunt fiber
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Bluetooth is nice for sure

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But even that doesn't have to be a thing for me anyways

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I have nothing Bluetooth ๐Ÿ˜‚

little osprey
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honestly, if you already have a card that's adequate speed for your wifi, then why pay for it in the motherboard?

gaunt fiber
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True it just looks ugly lmao

little osprey
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what's not ugly is better graphics cuz you saved money on stuff you didn't need to get stuff that you could put more use to ๐Ÿ™‚

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at least that's my stance

gaunt fiber
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Hell yeah I'm glad I came on here to talk lol

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Saved me hundreds lol

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The new bundle is 404 Instead of 734 lol

little osprey
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yeah if you saved $300 you can definitely take that $300 extra in your budget and dump it into a 2080

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or whatever is relevant when you actually do build it

gaunt fiber
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Hell man I might aswell not even build a new PC

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I currently have a ryzen 5 2600

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I mean is it even necessary to upgrade that?

little osprey
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depends on how you define necessary

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what gpu did you say you have?

gaunt fiber
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If I just buy a new Mobo and gpu

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Currently 1060 6gb

little osprey
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i wouldn't even bother with a new motherboard if you're not getting a new cpu

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honestly what i would do is

gaunt fiber
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Yeah but the b350 is ugh

little osprey
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i would buy whatever GPU you were going to budget for

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and throw that in your current build

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if it still leaves something to be desired, go from there

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cuz that cpu and mobo will be fine for gaming

gaunt fiber
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See my case right now is like a case from 2008 ๐Ÿ˜‚

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I'd love to get a new case

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And then I was just thinking about just building another

little osprey
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you could build a new one and still get several hundred out of your old build to offset it

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as it's still current enough to have a market

gaunt fiber
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But if I can save money maybe I'll just get a case and gpu. And yeah that's true too

little osprey
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i would keep your build, throw in a nice gpu, and if that's enough, call it good

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a 3600x will be faster just by virtue of being, well, faster, but hard to say whether it would be worth it

gaunt fiber
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True I'm going for looks to much I need to stop that lmao

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Now the thing is. Would a triple fan gpu fit..... Lmao

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I need to measure how much room I have in there.

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Ok so new question. 1080ti or 5700xt๐Ÿ˜…

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Money wise 5700xt is more worth it to me lmao

west finch
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1080ti outperforms a 5700xt with a pretty decent margin, so it really depends how much you can find a 1080ti for

coarse coral
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they sell for 400-550 atm

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1080ti

fluid raven
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Wait a 1080 ti outperforms 5700xt, that can't be right

little osprey
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There's a pretty significant uplift in a 1080ti over a 5700xt

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Whether it'll be worth the hassle is another story

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If you have one locally available that's affordable, and you're ok with a card that's EOL then yeah, it'll make sense

coarse coral
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bunch of their warranties should be expired or expiring within the next year

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mine ends oct 2020 so i plan to grab a 3080Ti before then

little osprey
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I'm wondering if the jump to 7nm will be significant enough to warrant an upgrade already for my 2080ti

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Pretty tough to predict but if AMD's gains on 7nm GPUs are any indication, then the 3080tis may be pretty beefy, cuz it stands to reason barring manufacturing issues, that nvidia will have made significant leaps too via the move to 7nm

fluid raven
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I remember someone doing some math and saying it should be at the very least a 7% gain

little osprey
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7% is nothing, nvidia wouldn't bother with an entirely new architecture for that, it'll be quite a bit more than that lol

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Like that's roughly the difference between a 5700xt and 2070s, which I highly doubt you'd be able to tell a difference between in games

pulsar garnet
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They'll do whatever makes them money xD

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7nm Nvidia will get people hyped and if it's a new gen people with deep pockets will go ahead and buy, and anyone still on non 2000 will probably buy too

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Not everyone, but there's always a market

fluid raven
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Well it was like 7% minimum just off of the amount of transistors, but their would undoubtedly be more performance possible than that

gaunt fiber
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I still can't believe the 1080ti still outperforms

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I found a water-cooled 1080ti for I think it was 500 or so

floral barn
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@willow gorge the case is a phanteks p600s

latent bronze
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10xx series will last for a good 2 to 6 years (depending on which one said person would be using)

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same how the 980 and 980 Ti will last for about 3 more years before people would have to be playing on like medium settings

fluid raven
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Yeah it's kinda crazy I thought the 5700 xt was a rtx competitor after all

gaunt fiber
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2080 ti or 1080ti?

lime forge
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if u got the budget, definetly 2080ti

latent bronze
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Are you asking which one to buy?

lime forge
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otherwise i recommend 2070 over 1080ti

gaunt fiber
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Which one performance wise is better

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Strictly gaming

latent bronze
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2080 Ti

lime forge
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1080ti, unless you can find it used for cheap, isnt good value

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DEFINITELY the 2080ti

latent bronze
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heck you can even go for the 2080 Super instead which would cost less

tropic estuary
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How good are extension cables for PSUs?

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I see some on amazon for 30 bucks but not sure how cheap they should be

polar holly
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I love them they make my build possible. I have a custom build so the normal ones do not reach all parts.

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i would have no reccomendations on the ones to buy. mine are from cable mod.

tropic estuary
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I should check them out

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How much were they for you?

polar holly
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75 dollars but they are custom

tropic estuary
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Ye i just want white ones

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Maybe white and pink

deep skiff
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cablemod are usually more expensive, kind of like the asus rog of hardware

polar holly
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yeah but i find them to be very good quality and if your looking for custom without going boutique they are the best

grand brook
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Im trying to tidy up the cable management on a prebuilt i got but i do not know what some of these cables are. Can anyone help me out.

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It seems to be the sata cable for my hdd but it just connects to another open cable

little osprey
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it just has multiple connectors on the same cord

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probably

gaunt zinc
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@grand brook I will SEND you Velcro cable ties to help clean that up.

grand brook
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@gaunt zinc why thank you, but I have already purchased velcro ties.

latent bronze
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@gaunt zinc Do i get a modular PSU then lol

fluid raven
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If it's an option, always

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Modular is so nice

still roostBOT
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Akamarutheanbublackopsdoggo#8872 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

little osprey
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Hi I'm thinking on Building me a New Gaming PC an would like help

latent bronze
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You pretty much have a RX 470 already and you might use the storage in your old system as well in the new

little osprey
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Ok What about Upgrading my System I can send you the info so I can get help

latent bronze
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I remember the system you have now which is using an FX processor which there is no real upgrade path for that besides for the GPU

little osprey
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GPU?

grand brook
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Does anyone know how difficult it is to replace a power supply.

lime forge
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not too hard at all

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just gotta make sure you dont pull any of the other wires

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also

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do NOT reuse the cables

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always use the new ones that come with the psu

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most of the time the way the pins are situated means that you could plug stuff in wrong and fry the PC

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so basically just use the new cables and youre good to go dog_Laugh

latent bronze
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@little osprey graphic card

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Also like you mentioned you have a RX 470 so with that system you would be fine

little osprey
latent bronze
little osprey
latent bronze
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Ya the FX 8350 pretty much has no upgrade path which is why the system i suggested there would be a better upgrade

austere condor
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@little osprey what's your budget?

latent bronze
little osprey
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There is no budget Ok so my 8350 is good to go then

austere condor
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no, the 8350 is very old and outdated

little osprey
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๐Ÿ˜ข

austere condor
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even for its time when it was released, it was a mediocre processor

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7 years ago

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lol

little osprey
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Ok looks like i do have to rebuild my Gaming PC then

latent bronze
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weren't they released in 2011?

dark raven
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8350 is more a quad quad then 8/8

austere condor
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idk it says 2012 there

little osprey
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What can I change in my PC then. I was thinking on going with a MSI Motherboard

polar holly
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So if you were doing a full overhaul whatโ€™s the max you would want to spend on it @little osprey

dark raven
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Even the lawsuit won with it favoring 4/4 with bs desgin

austere condor
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can do anything from $300 to $300,000, but i would need a budget for what you're looking to spend @little osprey

little osprey
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I would have to say $1,000

latent bronze
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Are you 100% sure

chilly marsh
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300000 lmaoooooooooo wtf

little osprey
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Im going to be doing streaming from my PC an PS4 an PS3

chilly marsh
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never heard of that price point ever

austere condor
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more of an execration when someone doesnt give me a budget and just says they want a good computer

little osprey
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I really dont want to spend more then that but if i have to I will save the money up like i did with my PC i have now an that took me over 3 years to do

latent bronze
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Well i find the RX 470 he has is still good to this day right now

dark raven
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1k is a pretty good point

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Maybe, 1080p med yeah

austere condor
dark raven
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But year/ 2 maybe 1080p

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But first, get a ryzen 3 or ryzen 5

latent bronze
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5 not 3

dark raven
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That's good what demon posted

latent bronze
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he mentioned streaming

dark raven
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A ryzen 3 is still better then a 8350

polar holly
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yeah that build will handle streaming just fine

dark raven
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It still hyperthreads

austere condor
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R3 doesnt have SMT

dark raven
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Really?

austere condor
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just 4 core / 4 thread

latent bronze
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^

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Ryzen 5 is the one with 4 core 8 threads and 6 core 12 threads

dark raven
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Huh thought it was a 4/8 cause r5 is a 6/12

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Wait

austere condor
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1st gen R5 had 4/8 and 6/12

dark raven
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Which series

latent bronze
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2400G and 3400G is 4 core 8 thread as well

austere condor
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4/8 was dead on arrival, so they discontinued out other than the R52400g / R5 3400G

dark raven
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I thought they then went to 6/12 r5 gen 2

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Yeah

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4/8 is ok in a cheap cpu

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R5 isn't cheap enough

latent bronze
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on Aliexpress they're selling a R5 1400 for like 50$ lol

austere condor
dark raven
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I'd say not using AliExpress for r5

little osprey
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@austere condor That's what I was just looking at to LOL

dark raven
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You may get a r5, or a crappy CPU you can't return

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Unless Ali fixed they're sell and run sellers

latent bronze
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You can get a full refund on Ali now

dark raven
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Ok

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Didn't know

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Been a couple of years

latent bronze
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They have pretty much about the same policy as ebay now

dark raven
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Ok

austere condor
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but yeah, thats what i would recommend to upgrade to while still making use of some of the old parts from your current system. its much mroe affordable than dropping $1000 on an all new system, and its still a very good option in terms of performance to go with @little osprey

little osprey
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I was just thinking that to

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so in all reality my Current PC will be abot 1k or over

austere condor
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no I wouldnt say that, the parts you currently have are not worth a whole lot

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FX 8350/board/16GB ram is worth $60~
the 240mm AIO cooler is worth $35
the 1TB HDD is worth $10
the RX 470 is worth $65
case is worth maybe $5-$10
PSU is worth $20

little osprey
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Darn o well lol

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I think I will still use some of my parts

austere condor
latent bronze
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The hard drive you have is a little crappy being 5400RPM

little osprey
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Ok I'll see what I can do thanks guy's

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My Girl would like a laptop for Schooling what do you guys recommand

austere condor
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a lenovo thinkpad or other lenovo laptop

little osprey
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Ok thank you very much

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Now what about a Gaming laptop for me LOL

latent bronze
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There is the Asus TUF laptops which is good for gaming and affordable

little osprey
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Can you be so kind an shoot me a Link

latent bronze
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under 1000$

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Would be able to play most games on very high to ultra settings depending on the game

little osprey
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Here is a list of games that i play the most. Mass Effect Trilogy,Doom, Doom 2, Doom 3, DOOM Fable HD, STO, PWI

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perfect world i havent played that in years

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O I forgot also play SWTOR

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I an hoping the Laptop can Handle them all

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I really hate Intel

latent bronze
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So that laptop could handle all those on ultra

tame dock
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Hey guys quick question about ram and mobo compatibility

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Can i run ddr4 3600mhz with a asus here maximus 8 alpha?

dark raven
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@little osprey outside build quality, I found Acer's used to give the most bang for your buck under 1 grand

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But most are Intel i3 or i5

little osprey
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yuck LOL

little osprey
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Do colored plates for covering unused fan slots exist?

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@little osprey Is this your case Corsair Crystal Series 680X RGB CC-9011168-WW Black Steel / Plastic High Airflow Tempered Glass ATX Smart Case

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Yessir

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But the white one

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Ok now we are getting some where

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How manny Fan's single fans do you have all together

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3 on front with 3 fan radiator. One on back exhaisting. 2 on bottom. And 1 on top left above motherboard

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Echausting

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Exhausting

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Accroding to what i see in the pic you want the 3 front fans to be intake's

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Your Water Cooling as outtakes

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the one in the back as a Outtake

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My 3 fan h150i is on the front cooled from intake.

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But its unavailable

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The 2 bottom's on the bottom you might have to ask an you dont want anything covering the Airflow's

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The 2 intake fams on the bottom blow onto my 2080 ti and i have an intake on the top

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Fans

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Your Liquid Cooling is always a outtake

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The top right fan slot cant be used because the h150i radiator is in the way.

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The 3 corsair LL fans are mounted in the front so i can see the fans with the radiator behind it

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For Exp my Pc has a grand total of 4 Fan's an 1 Liquid Cooling
2 in the front is a intake 1 on the bottom is a intake 1 in the back is a outtake an my Liquid Cooling is a outtake

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Is your Liquid Cooling in the Front or Top

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Front because its 3 fan

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Wont fit top

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Ok I think that's where you made a mistake you got a Liquid Cooling for the front when you should have for the Top an the Front has 3 fans already

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Yeah.

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Will a 140 x140 mm magnetic dust cover fit this case on the top slot? @little osprey

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I wouldn't block any Airflow at all due to if you block your PC will overheat

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I just want to out a dusto cover on

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Put

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To be honest I have no clue

polar holly
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@little osprey unless you love razer my reccomendation is the normal dynamic. or the rog

little osprey
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@polar holly Got a Link I can see?

polar holly
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Thats the black and the white is

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@little osprey

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and place other rgb strips in if you arent using razer products already

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If your using a razer ecosystem it would be a good buy

little osprey
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Im so confused

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I just dont know what someone would break my Case

polar holly
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What do you mean

little osprey
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The side is coming out

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I cant seem to find the right case to hold my stuff that I have an I dont think there is a Replacement part's either for my RaidMax

little osprey
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You just need a new side panel?

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An Front an Top

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An I dont know where to get em from

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Your best bet is contacting raidmax and seeing if they'll sell you them

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That's what Im doing right now

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If it's a discontinued case you're likely SOL

graceful idol
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Whats a good aio cooler for the threadripper?

little osprey
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@little osprey I hope not ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

tropic estuary
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idk what to do anymore

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ryzen or intel i cant make up my mind

round flare
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ryzen

tropic estuary
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people also say intel :c

round flare
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it's your build in the end

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gotta pick one

chilly marsh
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just eenie

tropic estuary
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i know but i still cant come to a desision

chilly marsh
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meenie

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miny

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m0e it bro

round flare
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Eenie meenie minuy mo

chilly marsh
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literally if those builds are too similar

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just grab the tiger by the toe

round flare
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or grab a 3600 by the toe

tropic estuary
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i hear so many bad things about ryzen, but the price is too good

chilly marsh
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what do you mean so many

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lmao

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you from 2009 or 2019?

round flare
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ryzen is great what

tropic estuary
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while im more familiar with intel too

round flare
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if you want intel go intel

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nobodies stoping you

tropic estuary
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single core performance between the 2

chilly marsh
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ok stop lol

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just decide already

tropic estuary
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es hard

chilly marsh
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we cant do anything

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gl

little osprey
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Anyone who is talking crap on ryzen is just super biased. They're not the absolute fastest for gaming, but to say they're not any good is patently false

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Coming from someone whose last four or five builds in the last 12 years or so have been Intel

lime forge
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ive never used an amd processor

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theyre good tho

tropic estuary
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i still have a week to decide

little osprey
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Depends on a lot of things. Both are very viable

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It's a really good time to be a PC enthusiast, it's been a long time since you've actually had compelling options/competition

tropic estuary
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so many decisions

round flare
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I've had two amd processors so far

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very epique

tropic estuary
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i have two options lined up, ill have to pick one eventually

elfin basin
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Hey i was thinking of making my first pc build and i was wondering if you guys got any reccomendations that i should look at ?

lime forge
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alright

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whats your budget

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and what do you use your pc for

tropic estuary
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how much better is a x470 mobo compared to a b450

lime forge
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if youre not overclocking id just go with whatever is cheaper tbh, when searching just select both and sort by lowest price lmao

elfin basin
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600 to 1,000

And i use it mostly to watch anime and to play fighting games and rpgs and the occasional fps

lime forge
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gotcha

round flare
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I smell rx series

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or 1660 series

lime forge
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probably gonna go with a 570 for this build

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im making a list hold on

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oh

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@elfin basin do you want the pc to look good?

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or do you not care about looks

elfin basin
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I mean that would be nice if it was pretty to look at

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But not all that concerned

lime forge
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got it

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and do you happen to live close to a micro center?

tropic estuary
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i will most likely oc a little bit

elfin basin
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Like 17 minutes

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Prolly

lime forge
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dude thats freakin AWESOME

tropic estuary
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but b450 mobos can overclock

elfin basin
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Yeah im in new york

lime forge
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youre better off with x470 for overclocking

tropic estuary
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good to know

round flare
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also it depends which fps

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cause if it's esports titles then the 1660ti is overkill

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but if it's like

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destiny

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then no

tropic estuary
#

theres no problems running 3rd gen on b450 mobos right>

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just might need a bios update?

round flare
#

The max boards come updated

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like the one in the build I out above

still roostBOT
#
Barboza#7718 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

tropic estuary
#

op

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i keep forgetting

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i think i will go with ryzen 2700x

round flare
#

Are you gonna be streaming

tropic estuary
#

no

round flare
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or doing any workstation type tasks

tropic estuary
#

editing vids

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photoshop

round flare
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Hm

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Well

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I mean the 3600 would be faster for just gaming but

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if you want the 2700x that's right up there

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It's also cheaper so

tropic estuary
#

im seeing comparisons rn

#

they are so close in gaming

round flare
#

yeah they are

#

which is why the 2700x is probably better for you

#

in case you ever do decide to stream

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those 8 cores have your back

tropic estuary
#

i have a laptop that would most likely be used as my streaming pc

round flare
#

รถ

tropic estuary
#

streamed before on it at 900p 60fps

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it wasnt that bad

#

emulation is something im looking at too

round flare
#

Ye whatever works best

tropic estuary
#

i tested out the gpu ill use on a 2600 pc and it ran the emus i use well

#

i think i have my build completed

#

hopefully

round flare
#

does emulation really require a lot of power

lime forge
#

YES

round flare
#

I've never tried so

#

oh

#

didn't know

lime forge
#

it requires a LOT of power

round flare
#

jeez all caps zack

tropic estuary
#

id say it requires a lot of single core performance

lime forge
#

well, depending on what system you try to emulate lol

round flare
#

P S 5

lime forge
#

emulating PS3 is a nightmare lol

round flare
#

before it comes out

tropic estuary
#

which is why im still deciding intel over ryzen a little

#

but i think ill go with ryzen in the end

round flare
#

yes team red

deep skiff
#

ryzen much better can confirm

lime forge
#

nah

#

+3 fps makes it worth it

deep skiff
#

at least i have a unlocked cpu

lime forge
#

you bring that up every time

deep skiff
#

u gotta run cinebench r20 and lets see who wins

lime forge
#

and it literally doesnt matter

#

is it free?

deep skiff
#

yeah

coarse coral
#

but hes unlocked

lime forge
#

:D

deep skiff
#

overclocking turned my 1070 ti within margin of error to a 1080 :l

round flare
#

don't worry you just need more real life xp to unlock your locked cpu

#

rl xp being

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money

#

man imagine having a powerful gpu

#

can't relate

tropic estuary
#

pcpartpicker estimates 349w

#

would a 650w psu be good?

lime forge
#

yes

round flare
#

yeah

#

always aim like 100-200 higher than estimate

#

but the more the merrier

lime forge
#

id say at least 200

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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unless budget

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

round flare
#

My psu is rgb so it gets a bonus 200 watts

lime forge
tropic estuary
#

637 left for the rest of my pc which i might get done in the next 2 weeks

lime forge
#

oops

#

i pasted the link and @tted him in the wrong spaces

#

you get the point

#

keep in mind he will be streaming, playing games, and they wanted the pc to look decent

round flare
#

What are you missing still

#

Also

#

frys is selling a 3 pack of rgb fans for 30

#

And I want

tropic estuary
#

what brand

lime forge
#

shoot for some reason that list didnt put the price for the cable extensions

round flare
#

TT

lime forge
tropic estuary
#

pretty good

lime forge
#

WAIT

#

WHAT

#

3 pack for $30??

#

I NEED IT NOW

tropic estuary
#

thats pretty nuts

#

i need one more corsair sp120 rbh fan

lime forge
#

WWWWHHHHHEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE

round flare
#

At my local one

#

Also I think I may have missed it

#

It was a daily one not weekly special

lime forge
#

ah

tropic estuary
#

my micro center has cable mod cables

#

hmmmmmm

lime forge
#

good investment

#

trust me

round flare
#

I am currently searching the whole site for rgb fans

tropic estuary
#

40 buck for 3 cables tho :c

lime forge
#

wait hold on

tropic estuary
#

4 cables*

tropic estuary
#

TT makes some cheaper rbg fans im pretty sure

#

yes

round flare
#

those ones you sent

#

those were the ones

lime forge
#

get them

#

theyre so good

round flare
#

oh they have a corsair three pack for 40 tho

tropic estuary
#

WAT

#

WHER

#

WHERE

lime forge
chilly marsh
#

where

lime forge
#

i paid $120 for mine

#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

#

ok see

tropic estuary
#

SEND LINK

lime forge
#

the thermaltake fans are better in every way

#

and theyre cheaper

#

and more compatible

#

well, if you have a 5v argb

tropic estuary
#

i just want corsair fans bc they match the fans the case ima buy has preinstalled ludwigPants

round flare
tropic estuary
#

where is that corsair 3pack link tho

round flare
#

they're the less nice ones though

tropic estuary
#

oh

round flare
#

ya

tropic estuary
#

i thought they were RG :c

#

RBG

lime forge
#

they are

round flare
#

they are

#

but no ring

lime forge
#

lol

#

mine dont have the ring either

tropic estuary
#

waitwaitwait

lime forge
#

and i still paid top dollar for them ๐Ÿ˜ญ

round flare
#

Oof the 30 dollar ones were enermax

tropic estuary
#

those are the ones i was looking for

round flare
tropic estuary
#

SP120

#

tyty

round flare
#

here you go

#

Idk if you can ship them tho

#

clearance

#

unless you happen to live in illinois near chicago

tropic estuary
#

wait i cant get :c

lime forge
#

one of us, one of us

#

illinois gang

deep skiff
#

who was that part list for @lime forge ?

round flare
#

lmao I thought you were brit for some reason

tropic estuary
#

might just get 1 sp120 fan lol

round flare
#

Zack

tropic estuary
#

for 30 bucks

lime forge
tropic estuary
#

i just need one

lime forge
#

agh they have some name i cant easily @

#

hold on

#

@elfin basin

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gotem

#

the list was for them

deep skiff
#

do they live near a mc?

lime forge
#

yes

#

wait

#

hold on

#

before you yell at me

#

i already told them about the bundle deal

deep skiff
lime forge
#

so HUSH

round flare
#

NO

stuck tide
#

zack could you check dm's?

round flare
#

IT HAS NO RGB

deep skiff
#

340 with a mir, only $7 over ur budget for a much better gpu

tropic estuary
lime forge
#

yeah but like no rgb anime_adhd

deep skiff
#

yeah but like way better

tropic estuary
#

mine has rgb ๐Ÿ™‚

lime forge
#

also where are the case fans

#

you gonna need airflow with that 5700xt

deep skiff
#

the h500 doesnโ€™t need any

stuck tide
#

zack

deep skiff
#

and you can just undervolt+oc

#

no performance loss

lime forge
#

yeah, but keep in mind they wanted looks, why i recommended the case fans and ram

#

but you are correct, your pc build list is around the same price and a lot more powerful

#

in the graphics department

deep skiff
#

then just buy fans later

tropic estuary
#

but no rgb'

round flare
#

of they want looks

tropic estuary
#

no rgb ram

round flare
#

h510 elite

#

trident z

#

And rgb mobo

#

lmao

tropic estuary
#

my build is 20 dollars less and has rgb B)

round flare
#

but his gpu

#

is

#

really

#

stronk

tropic estuary
#

i dont like amd gpus personally

round flare
#

y

tropic estuary
#

bad with OpenGL atm

#

sry but thats an ugly card too, but that doesnt effect performance

#

its hard too look at tho

chilly marsh
#

its eh

#

my 1660 isnt exactly pretty but it isnt too bad

round flare
#

you think that's ugly

stuck tide
#

Could someone recommend a budget fully pre-built gaming pc preferably with mouse and keyboard but if not included that is fine

round flare
#

but one of the kitty cards

tropic estuary
#

lel

chilly marsh
#

the kitty cards

round flare
#

prebuilt

chilly marsh
#

mm

#

best stuff

stuck tide
#

yeah prebuilt

round flare
#

there's a lot on sale rn on newegg

tropic estuary
#

prebuilts are horrible

round flare
#

if they want prebuilt they probably just don't want the hassle of building

stuck tide
#

i know but i cant find a cheapish self build pc

deep skiff
#

i mean r/bapcs has some great sales on them sometimes

tropic estuary
#

i havent ate all day

#

should probably eat

stuck tide
#

if yall could recommend parts that will make a whole pc i can try to build it but i need it cheap

lime forge
#

whats your budget

#

and what do you use it for

deep skiff
#

600

lime forge
#

ah, he moved to general

stuck tide
#

$600

#

sorry

#

he just pinged me so i saw it

#

I can go a lil over but not too much maybe like $50 more

lime forge
#

if you live near a microcenter, you can get that motherboard and processor bundled together for a $30 discount

stuck tide
#

ok

#

zack is that all i need?

lime forge
#

besides a keyboard, mouse, and monitor, yes

#

hmmm well you might need a extra case fan or two

#

hold on

stuck tide
#

ok

lime forge
#

these have good value

#

4 pack for dirt cheap

tropic estuary
#

you can cheap out on keyboards and mie

#

mice

round flare
#

Not rgb

#

REEEEEEEEEE

stuck tide
#

ok

lime forge
#

sigh calus, i know

#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

tropic estuary
#

ewewwwww

lime forge
#

well sure you can cheap out on kb+m but like

#

eh

#

nah

tropic estuary
#

my otemu brown keyboard still runs fine after a year of use

#

and a cheap 20 dollar mice from amazon with rgb also still works like a charm

round flare
#

Bruh just get a redragon

gaunt fiber
#

I thought my build was cheap apparently its ok lol

round flare
#

like 40 bucks

#

and you get rgb mecha keyboard

lime forge
#

yeah

#

reddragon is decent

#

i had one

round flare
#

I'm buying that anne pro 2 when it goes on sale

#

With blue switched

lime forge
#

my keyboard lasted a year before the keys started to stop working

round flare
#

because loud is better

lime forge
#

smh

gaunt fiber
#

i got my g502 for 40 at wallyworld

tropic estuary
#

clone cherry mx arent that bad

#

they are decent

gaunt fiber
#

and a corsair k55 keyboard for like 50 or 60

#

i want the SteelSeries apex pro

tropic estuary
#

whats a good 144hz gsync monitor tho

stuck tide
#

same actually vapelord

gaunt fiber
#

sorry apex 7

tropic estuary
#

a lot of the cheap ones ive seen are tn :c

gaunt fiber
#

hell i have a dell 27 inch 144hz amd freesync monitor i paid like 150ish for

tropic estuary
gaunt fiber
#

on ye old amazon

tropic estuary
#

benq looks nice

gaunt fiber
#

it was cheap and i was able to get it right then or i would've got something else

tropic estuary
#

but those bezzels :c

deep skiff
#

imagine having a mecha membrane @lime forge :V

lime forge
#

i love it

#

and thats all that matters

deep skiff
round flare
#

I have a mecha membrane

#

and made it to legend comp in destiny

#

But now I'm ready

#

for those overly loud blues

#

Bring em on

deep skiff
#

๐Ÿค” clickies arenโ€™t really good for gaming

round flare
#

don't worry about it

#

if I'm content with my clicky

#

I will play better

narrow elbow
#

I need some help guys, I plugged everything in, but nothing is working, no lights no fans nothing except the RGB on my motherboard

#

Not sure whatโ€™s wrong

fluid raven
#

so motherboard is getting power...

#

try unplugging everything that might be plugged in, if you didn't already...

#

if there's a graphics card try with no graphics card first

narrow elbow
#

I unplugged graphics card, same result

#

Im going to be unplugging and re doing all of it tomorrow see if it fixes it

gritty trout
#

Anyone on whos good at watercooling

#

Or know about coolant xD

west finch
#

@narrow elbow do you have the power button connected to the motherboard properly?

#

@gritty trout I wouldn't call myself good at it, but I put together my first custom loop about a month ago, what's your question?

fossil hedge
narrow elbow
#

@west finch I did connect the power button to the motherboard

sudden turret
#

in the right spot?

#

it's easy to miss those tiny pins.

narrow elbow
#

Yeah I checked the motherboard manual and itโ€™s in the right pins

west finch
#

12 and 4 pin power cables plugged in on the motherboard right?

narrow elbow
#

Yes all the correct power cables are plugged into the motherboard

#

not sure whatโ€™s wrong

blazing bear
narrow elbow
#

Iโ€™ll will take some pictures once I get home and see if that helps

little osprey
blazing bear
#

Noice

little osprey
#

really the premiere screencapping software imo

blazing bear
#

In real time too love it

little osprey
#

captures GIFs too

blazing bear
#

Oh my

little osprey
#

press one button and you can have it take and upload a screenshot to your site of choice

#

very powerful

blazing bear
#

Likes it

tidal bluff
#

@blazing bear u will want a better board

blazing bear
#

Ok

tidal bluff
#

i have the x370 gaming x fatality and dont like it

#

wish i woulda bought a rog

little osprey
#

that board is solid but i don't see why you wouldn't get an x570 board

#

i know money but

round flare
#

Yeah get a newer chipset for sure

tidal bluff
#

yea u gonna put a 12 core on it the vrms might get hott

round flare
#

Just for more features/oc capability

#

also that

blazing bear
#

I donโ€™t OC but I get it.

little osprey
#

this is one of the better, inexpensive x570s

#

they have a wifi model but i presume most people don't want wifi

tidal bluff
#

if u dont overclock get a b450 asus rog strix

blazing bear
#

Ok 50 bucks to keep things current ok

#

B450

round flare
#

b540-f or whatever it's called

#

from rog

#

looks nice

#

probably is nice

blazing bear
#

Looking now

blazing bear
#

Thx

tidal bluff
#

its a solid board my friend uses the x470 and loves it

round flare
#

oh but also

#

you would need to update bios

little osprey
#

b450 is fine, i think it just causes me some cognitive dissonance to throw a high end cpu on the "mid-range" motherboard

tidal bluff
#

yep

round flare
#

so maybe get the msi tomahawk max

#

It already comes updated ready for 3rd gen

#

So you don't have to get the temporary athlon from amd

blazing bear
#

Ok I have the toma for intel now nice board

tidal bluff
#

id rather strix

round flare
#

but make sure it's the max version

#

those come updated

tidal bluff
#

that board looks hella cheaply made

round flare
#

I'm pretty sure the tomahawk is regarded as the best b-450

#

for a reason too

blazing bear
#

Ok so what out the box cones updated for the cpu

#

Then letโ€™s keep price 200 ish 220 is ok

little osprey
#

most boards will have probably ran out of the old stock of non-updated bios motherboards

#

i would hope at least lol

round flare
#

ye probably but just to be sure

tidal bluff
round flare
#

It's only like 5 more dollars for the max

tidal bluff
#

thats the best boards by google

#

sorry but strix is above tomahawk lol

round flare
#

idk lol most people in here pick the tomahawk

blazing bear
#

Ok I look at that list and get one from it.

little osprey
#

there is nothing wrong with MSI boards

round flare
#

it's preference

blazing bear
#

Yup pref

round flare
#

they're like 5 dollars apart anyway

little osprey
#

most people will go for cost over all in motherboards tbh

blazing bear
#

I like cost but want reliability mostly and currency

#

Not loosing and arm too

#

Lol

little osprey
#

unless you need pcie4.0, or just want it, there's not much reason to get x570 boards

#

i just feel weird suggesting something other than the premium stuff for the high end cpus

round flare
#

well

#

with a 3900x

tidal bluff
#

i said b450 cause his first choice was cheap as well

round flare
#

maybe there is

little osprey
#

some of the nicer b450 boards will have similar quality vrms as x570

round flare
#

Idk but like

little osprey
#

most of the cost of x570 isn't in the vrms anyway

round flare
#

imagine an msi creation or something

tidal bluff
#

now the 3800x would work good but the 12 core might heat up vrms too much

blazing bear
#

X570 I like but may wait for pricing.

round flare
#

with that 3900

tidal bluff
#

unless u add a monoblock

#

to cool vrms

blazing bear
#

So x or b

little osprey
#

i think you're overstating how hot vrms get

#

they're designed to withstand like 120*c

tidal bluff
#

x really isnt needed , its more expensive too

little osprey
#

the issue is the quality of the power delivered, less the heat

tidal bluff
#

hes not overclocking so doesnmt matter lol

blazing bear
#

The x570 phantom

tidal bluff
#

asrock is ok but there cheap

#

asus, msi, gigabyte are better

little osprey
#

asrock boards are also fine

#

i wouldn't worry about any motherboard i got from any of those brands

round flare
#

tbh the only board I would say avoid

tidal bluff
#

i have the x370 gaming x its trash compared to the x370 strix

round flare
#

is the nzxt ones

little osprey
#

ok, so you're writing off an entire brand just because you have a bad experience with one product?

tidal bluff
#

ive boiught 3 different ones not just this one

round flare
#

idk I like my msi board

tidal bluff
#

they all have been having issues

round flare
#

no rgb or anything but it gets the job done

blazing bear
#

X470-f

round flare
#

and stays cool

tidal bluff
#

any strix board is premium quality

blazing bear
#

Ok so if I go x470 no OC itโ€™s legit

#

Cool

tidal bluff
#

i usually go by positive reviews too

#

yea

round flare
#

should be fine yeah

little osprey
#

they're...all fine

#

the strix boards are of similar quality to the other fancy lines of boards from all the other manufacturers

round flare
#

I just find rog stuff overpriced

#

Most of the time at least

little osprey
#

aorus line, the higher end MSI line, whatever

tidal bluff
#

i had the asrock z270 which was great but once i jumped to ryzen 7 the asrock boards are made wayyy cheaper than my intel build.

round flare
#

Msi godlike

little osprey
#

and yes i agree the ROG stuff is overpriced when companies like gigabyte are offering, frankly, better VRMs on cheaper boards

#

saying this as my 3900x is running on an ROG board lol

tidal bluff
#

120 is overpriced?

#

its only 10 more than that asrock board he chose

round flare
#

I said most of the time

#

I was gonna get that rog board originally

#

but I went with an x570 for a little more

tidal bluff
#

i was too but cheaped out on the asrock x370 gaming x and wish i had forked up the extra 50

#

for the x470 strix

little osprey
#

although with that gigabyte board some reviews complain about a lack of clarity as to what processors it supports out of the box

#

i.e., it may not have bios update for 3rd gen

#

and no, $120 in a vacuum is not overpriced

#

i said ROG stuff is overpriced, as in, on the whole it's overpriced

blazing bear
#

Fair. Thanks and I will look at that

little osprey
#

they have wifi models of all three of those boards i believe, if that's something you want

#

but price jumps up

#

i still think x570 is the way to go, this may not be a perfect analogy by any means but are you gonna put mid range tires on a mclaren?

#

but i think that's just me being a bit neurotic

#

so take that comment on x570 with a grain of salt lol

#

x570 is the way to go

#

imo if you're spending ~$700-800 on this upgrade, it makes sense to cough up the extra $70-80 to jump up to x570 as well

#

i guess i feel a little better knowing my neurosis is being backed up by someone lol

blazing bear
#

I found a x570 I liked by ASUS

#

Just makes sense

#

Thank you all

#

Iโ€™m no noob to PCs just been a while since I had to research

little osprey
polar holly
#

Yeah and if you ever truely want to hit the ryzen4000 series coming out I believe next year the x570 will be a better board to upgrade rather then having to buy the cpu and mobo.

blazing bear
#

Yup

#

X570-p was all all green

little osprey
#

i doubt he'll be looking to upgrade to 4000 series with a 3900x heh

blazing bear
#

Nope this is my last build for the near future

#

At least 4-5

#

Yrs

latent bronze
#

Ryzen 9 would be longer than 4 to 5 years

blazing bear
#

Good Iโ€™m hoping

tidal bluff
#

wasnt there something that someone said the 8 core was better for gaming than the 12 core?

latent bronze
#

heck there are older Xeon's from like LGA 1156/1155 that is still up there with the i9's lol

coarse coral
#

ipc > core count

little osprey
#

the 8 cores will likely clock ever so slightly faster

#

so, yeah, the 8 cores will on occasion outperform a 3900x

tidal bluff
#

just get a 3800x and a x570

latent bronze
#

Well more cores doesn't always mean better cause the latest 3950X the 3900X does better in gaming

tidal bluff
#

the lesser 100 bucks on cpu will make it a better motherboiard cause x570 starts at 200

#

then no bios is needed

#

update

latent bronze
#

If you are doing heavy work loads then more cores would be better

blazing bear
#

I stream and game

little osprey
#

That goes without saying

tidal bluff
#

a 3800x is fine for streaming i stream with a 1700x

latent bronze
#

streaming and gaming you can do that with a 3600 still >_<

blazing bear
#

Ok I will look at the 3800 x after lunch and report back haha

#

Thx for the insights

little osprey
#

i would lean towards 3900x still

latent bronze
#

i wouldn't

little osprey
#

lol

#

neat

tidal bluff
#

not needed

#

hes just streamiong and gaming not video editing

blazing bear
#

Well I want to be good for 4-5 thatโ€™s goal

latent bronze
#

nothing heavy work needed

little osprey
#

ok, well i'm leaving this conversation

tidal bluff
#

IVE BEEN USING A 1700X FOR 2 YEARS LOL

little osprey
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If you want plug and play performance for multi-purpose gaming + other stuff , 3900x is a great pick (at the $500 level) If not,I'd go 3600 for $194.

If you want an overclocking friendly system for cpu and ddr4, aiming to reach the highest levels of fps gaming performance, go 9900ks or 10980xe + big water loop / chiller.

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good for you

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your needs and desires are not his

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I'm aware. I have one. Does my already lengthy block up there need more filler? haha

tidal bluff
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is 3600 is fast then 3700x is better than 3600

latent bronze
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They are still good but is it really needed since he could just go with the 3600X instead

blazing bear
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@little osprey great game play good graphics no frame loss

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While streaming. End goal thatโ€™s it

tidal bluff
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i wouldnt game and stream with a ryzen 5 lol

latent bronze
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I do

tidal bluff
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ouch

latent bronze
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i have no issues at all as well

little osprey
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3600x and 3900x are entirely different tiers of cpus, if he wants something that will offer more longevity and more overhead for streaming, he will be better suited by the 3900x

tidal bluff
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how high u stream?

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what res?

latent bronze
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1080p

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game and stream

little osprey
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Those are good goals. Would you prefer a system work with very easy setup? Or are you interested in taking time and effort to tweak/tune etc?

tidal bluff
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pfft lol

blazing bear
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@little osprey yes

tidal bluff
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i streasm 1440 to 4k

little osprey
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Side note, maybe we can split off part of this convo to #gaming

latent bronze
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I don't have a monitor for 1440p so

blazing bear
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Ok

little osprey
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@ Otroud - what platform, bitrate, and encoding do you use?

latent bronze
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and i don't want to stream at 1440p when my game isn't on it as well

little osprey
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you stream in 4k? x

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not on a 1700x

tidal bluff
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actually i have

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not very well but its possible

little osprey
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if you say so

tidal bluff
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maybe not 60 frames but i can . if i have a zen+ i could

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when i stream 1440p my cpu usage doesnt even hit 50%

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so im sure i can do 4k low settings

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not max settings tho no way

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i se stream obs orwhatever its called

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also have gigabit internet if that helps

latent bronze
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Anyways i use a Ryzen 5 2600 and i am able to stream with no problem and i was also able to stream with no problem using a 2400G back then

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for streaming you just need higher than the recommended processor which is an i5 4670K which a lot of newer processors are better than that

little osprey
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"obs orwhatever" as in streamlabs with all auto settings?
Or obs studio with x264 + custom encoder flags?
Or obs studio using nvenc?