#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 416

fossil hedge Nov 13, 2019, 1:51 PM

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because thats kindoff nesscary.

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 1:51 PM

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i didnt unscrew anything

fossil hedge Nov 13, 2019, 1:51 PM

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yeah

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 1:51 PM

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i was just trying to fit it in like that

fossil hedge Nov 13, 2019, 1:51 PM

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yeah thats proububly your issue

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 1:52 PM

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i see i see

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so its better to take everything apart..well not everything but at least the part where the card goes

fossil hedge Nov 13, 2019, 1:52 PM

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you have to take off the PCI gaurd bracket

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sudden turret Nov 13, 2019, 1:52 PM

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this

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 1:52 PM

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i see

sudden turret Nov 13, 2019, 1:53 PM

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don't throw em away either, just put them back in the mobo box

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 1:53 PM

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yea i'll do that

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i'll give it another shot today

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thanks for your help guys

sudden turret Nov 13, 2019, 1:53 PM

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don't hesitate to come back. someone is always around to help

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 1:55 PM

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awesome

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thanks a lot!

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so this card should be good?

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https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-GTX-1060-6G/dp/B01IEKYD5U/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1NAPZA7J9N819&keywords=1060+6gb&qid=1573651354&sprefix=1060%2Caps%2C137&sr=8-5

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i am not trying to go crazy

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i just play csgo...nothing else

fossil hedge Nov 13, 2019, 1:56 PM

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yeah thats a good card

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 1:56 PM

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that should be enough right?

fossil hedge Nov 13, 2019, 1:56 PM

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my freand you could run csgo off of a toaster

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that card will be fine

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 1:58 PM

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i have a toaster now

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but it is effecting my game play....no smoth at all...also i have a 144hz monitor but with the card that i have no it can only run 60hz

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so i need to buy something else so i can put that 144hz to use

deep skiff Nov 13, 2019, 1:59 PM

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If you can spend $30 more, this card is about 15-20% faster and newer https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-gtx-1660-super-06g-p4-1068-kr/p/N82E16814487479

fossil hedge Nov 13, 2019, 1:59 PM

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well the 1060 can run a 1080p mointer fairly well

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100 more and you could get a 2060 or a super

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 2:00 PM

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can i show you guys my build

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and let me know what card you suggest

deep skiff Nov 13, 2019, 2:00 PM

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yeah but that 1060 is overpriced, a 1660 is the same price and newer

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it’s old stock trying to be sold for more due to the small amount of cards they have

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 2:01 PM

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my build

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that is my build

deep skiff Nov 13, 2019, 2:02 PM

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like your current build?

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 2:03 PM

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yes

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i put that build together 3 years ago

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still using that now

deep skiff Nov 13, 2019, 2:04 PM

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ic

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the cpu is still solid, but the gpu might need an upgrade

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 2:04 PM

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i mainly use it for trading and gaming on the weekends

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yea my gpu is bad

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so what do you suggest nachos?

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give me some ideas

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i am ready to purchase today

deep skiff Nov 13, 2019, 2:06 PM

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what budget?

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 2:06 PM

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idk no more than 250 for the gpu

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i dont think i need to spend more than that

deep skiff Nov 13, 2019, 2:06 PM

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ok I’ll find a gpu

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 2:07 PM

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thanks

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i only play counter strike global offensive and rainbow six siege here and there

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so those two are kind of a necessity for me

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lol

deep skiff Nov 13, 2019, 2:10 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-gtx-1660-super-06g-p4-1068-kr/p/N82E16814487479 yeah I’d go with a 1660 Super, or if you want to deal with mail in rebates (take months) you can get a 1660 TI for 245 https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-gv-n166toc-6gd/p/N82E16814932131

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 2:11 PM

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ok thanks nachos

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i'll just go with super

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i think that is enough

deep skiff Nov 13, 2019, 2:14 PM

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yeah the ti is around 5ish% faster than the 1660 super, but the super has way better value unless they ti is around $250

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 2:15 PM

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got it

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thanks for your help!

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 3:28 PM

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hey nuclear so i ended up getting this since the other one you suggested was not in stock atm

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YXQS33J/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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u think this is a good option? it looks the same as the one you suggested above just a different brand

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YXQS33J/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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will this work with my 144hz monitor?

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if nuclear is not available atm, any1 else? any opinions?

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on my purchase compared to what nuclear suggested

lime forge Nov 13, 2019, 4:16 PM

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itll work

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you might not hit 144fps

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but it will work

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depends on what games you play

latent bronze Nov 13, 2019, 4:20 PM

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You do know i get 165 fps in Destiny 2 with a 1660 non super 😛

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@stoic ember what games as well are you playing?

deep skiff Nov 13, 2019, 4:42 PM

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all of the dual fan ones perform very close, so I’d just grab the cheapest 2 fan model you can find

stoic ember Nov 13, 2019, 4:45 PM

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thanks guys

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@latent bronze i am a CSGO player. thats about it. i play rainbow six siege here and there but thats about it

pseudo osprey Nov 13, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Hey would you guys go with an i5 9600k or a ryzen 7 3700x

sudden turret Nov 13, 2019, 4:53 PM

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depends what you're doing.

latent bronze Nov 13, 2019, 4:54 PM

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CS GO you will get more than 144 fps

sudden turret Nov 13, 2019, 4:54 PM

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but 3700x is far superior in core/thread count

pseudo osprey Nov 13, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Well im mostly going to game but i would like to futureproof myself

sudden turret Nov 13, 2019, 4:54 PM

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3700x

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imo

latent bronze Nov 13, 2019, 4:55 PM

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I believe even the 3600X is better than the 9600K

pseudo osprey Nov 13, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Oh ok thanks

sudden turret Nov 13, 2019, 4:55 PM

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i5 6core 6 thread

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ryzen 8 core 16thread

latent bronze Nov 13, 2019, 4:56 PM

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R7

sudden turret Nov 13, 2019, 4:56 PM

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yep.

latent bronze Nov 13, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Well just saying but the 9600K is about 5% better than my 2600 and the 3600 is about 10% to 15% better than my 2600 so um ya

ornate tulip Nov 13, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Am I lesser for having purchased a samsung 1tb evo ssd instead of a 1tb pro ssd? I think I'm gonna paint the notch red and pretend I got a pro.

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The pro was like 160 dollars more

latent bronze Nov 13, 2019, 5:51 PM

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For gaming you wont know the difference

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Things like video editing you will

ornate tulip Nov 13, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Going to be used for rendering and opening large files and such. I currently have an 850 256 gb pro. I am moving to a 1tb 860 evo. :S

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I'm scurred

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I didn't get an m.2 because I heard they don't have as many writes, but I see they make a m.2 970 1tb evo for ~169, about 20 more than I paid for an encased 860

latent bronze Nov 13, 2019, 6:08 PM

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I honestly have no idea where you keep hearing these things from

ornate tulip Nov 13, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Linus tech tips 😦

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goddang, it's 20 bucks cheaper at microcenter than newegg and amazon :S

sudden turret Nov 13, 2019, 6:25 PM

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lol..

latent bronze Nov 13, 2019, 6:36 PM

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LTT discord is too strict

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no memes allowed

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But you're allowed to swear

polar holly Nov 13, 2019, 6:54 PM

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They do have less writes but the write count is still high enough that my 970

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Evo lasted around 3 years using at as a render station for thousand plus frame animations regularly

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Maxing it to max then emptying it once I was finished

ornate tulip Nov 13, 2019, 7:39 PM

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@polar holly did you get a warning that the drive was failing or did it die all of a sudden? 3 years kind of freaks me out

polar holly Nov 13, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Nah I moved it to my home system after three years because I got a optane drive to switch to. It still running

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So i now only use it for gaming and day usage

latent bronze Nov 13, 2019, 7:50 PM

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If i remember a SSD lasts like 5 times longer than a hard drive

polar holly Nov 13, 2019, 7:58 PM

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I believe the endurance of a 970 evo is 600x the data storage amount and a pro is 1200x. So a 1tb evo will have the endurance for 600tb

still roostBOT Nov 13, 2019, 11:02 PM

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short arrow Nov 14, 2019, 1:18 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/MightyMase04/saved/yyTrVn

timid nacelle Nov 14, 2019, 1:28 AM

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what about the list dude

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or is that the build you are building?

short arrow Nov 14, 2019, 1:35 AM

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Yessir

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 1:40 AM

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@short arrow If you're going for the Max boards get a 3600 then

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The Max versions are updated for 3000 series

short arrow Nov 14, 2019, 1:40 AM

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I'm getting the max board because it's only $5 extra, and has a larger bios chip

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Max also supports higher frequency ram

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Only for Gen3 chips

short arrow Nov 14, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Correct. Sort of future proofing if you will

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 1:43 AM

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https://i.gyazo.com/558a100a2a454e6747ba63bc877b31b1.png

short arrow Nov 14, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Also, it has USB 3.2

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Instead of 3.1

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 1:43 AM

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So why not get the 3600 instead for future proofing

short arrow Nov 14, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Because I can't afford it

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I don't have the extra 50 dollars

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And Im not old enough to get a job or drive, so I get all my cash from random odd jobs

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 1:44 AM

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You know black friday is like 2 weeks away

short arrow Nov 14, 2019, 1:45 AM

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I'm at 630 out of 777.95, and my parents are making me buy all at once

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 1:45 AM

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pretty sure a few things on that list will be cheaper so you have that 50$

short arrow Nov 14, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Aaand, my mom won't let me buy until I have an extra 250 saved up

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I won't be able to buy until after Christmas

austere condor Nov 14, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Looks slick. Good parts list, almost like I picked it all out. XD

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Well wait and see what the prices will be on black friday

short arrow Nov 14, 2019, 1:47 AM

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Pretty much, I would have to earn another $300 in 2 weeks

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 1:47 AM

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The thing is no one knows how cheap it will be so maybe you might have enough on that day

austere condor Nov 14, 2019, 1:47 AM

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Id expect 2600x/2700x to go on a flash sale. So yeah I'd say wait for it, and get a better deal on the CPU. Newegg last year had a killer bundle sale on a 1700x and board for a damn good price

short arrow Nov 14, 2019, 1:48 AM

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More like $400

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Because regardless of what the rest costs, my mom is making me save up extra, equivalent to the price of the gpu after tax and shipping

austere condor Nov 14, 2019, 1:49 AM

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If you live near s microcenter Id get their 2700x and Mobo bundle

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$130 for the CPU then a board bundled, get $30 off

deep skiff Nov 14, 2019, 1:50 AM

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can you bundle the tomahawk max with the 2700x?

austere condor Nov 14, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Probably if they have it in stock

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If not, an a pro, gaming plus, or normal tomahawk would all be a good option

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Only thing i can get on black friday is a new controller for my Switch >_<

deep skiff Nov 14, 2019, 1:57 AM

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im just waiting for switches sales :v

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 2:06 AM

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OG will go on sale but i doubt the new model and lite would

deep skiff Nov 14, 2019, 2:07 AM

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not those switches

chilly marsh Nov 14, 2019, 2:09 AM

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the new nintendo switch model is 300 rn @latent bronze

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 2:09 AM

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yep which is the normal price

chilly marsh Nov 14, 2019, 2:10 AM

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lets hope it goes on sale

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 2:10 AM

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I have been thinking of getting the new Switch and hack my old one

chilly marsh Nov 14, 2019, 2:10 AM

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brother is planning on buying it either black friday or christmas for both of us

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 2:12 AM

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If i was to hack my Switch i would need this after https://www.playdistribution.com/wp-content/uploads/201881392.jpeg

chilly marsh Nov 14, 2019, 2:12 AM

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lol

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Hey man playing Killer Instinct arcade style is the way to go

chilly marsh Nov 14, 2019, 2:13 AM

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i just hope at least one of the two items on my wishlists are on sale during black fri, cyber monday, or at least christmas

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 2:13 AM

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Canada has those and boxing day 😛

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Boxing day is like black friday but lasts for a week

chilly marsh Nov 14, 2019, 2:14 AM

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nice

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 2:15 AM

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There is always people from Vermont and New York that comes here during that time

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cause 500$ 43" 4K TV's would be selling for like 150$ instead

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:05 AM

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About to start the PC build process

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got a credit card through Amazon with interest free financing

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:06 AM

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don't pull a linus

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:08 AM

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chicky

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:24 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FtgV7T

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the gpu is free

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 3:37 AM

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What are you going to play with that .... Overwatch?

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:38 AM

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wuuut

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thats a fine gpu

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:41 AM

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karen is offended

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 3:41 AM

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He is always offended

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:41 AM

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theres literally nothing wrong with that gpu...

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it should handle most games, even if its on low settings

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:41 AM

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Are you gonna speak to the manager of 950 now

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 3:42 AM

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You do know the new COD with a 1050 handles on the lowest settings at 30 fps right

gloomy rock Nov 14, 2019, 3:42 AM

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1650 is one of the minimum specs on modern warfare

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 3:42 AM

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For older games it is fine but for modern games forget about it

gloomy rock Nov 14, 2019, 3:43 AM

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There's no way you booting that on a 950 and playing it

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:43 AM

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well from what im picking up from the specs list, they are on a budget, and budget builds cant always run the latest and greatest

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:43 AM

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karen said most games

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:43 AM

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^

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:43 AM

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also if they're on budget

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just spam rx570

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When in doubt

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rx570

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:43 AM

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they got the 950 for free tho

gloomy rock Nov 14, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Alright, technically every game since before like 2008 is most games since games have been around for so long

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:44 AM

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also @weak glacier get this ram instead, its cheaper and faster https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331354

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:44 AM

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I thought they said it was free cause pc part picker doesn't have a price for it

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I didn't know if it was a joke or not

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:44 AM

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I see that in like every budget build, gotcha

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:44 AM

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yeah

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its great for the price

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:44 AM

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My friend made most of this

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:44 AM

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so you have the gpu already

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:45 AM

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I just replaced the ryzen 3 he put for 89 with the 3600

gloomy rock Nov 14, 2019, 3:45 AM

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@lime forge you're looking at timing as well as speed right? 3200 with very bad timings can be worse than 3000

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Idk PC's well but I figured 5 was better than 3 for 30 bucks lol

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 3:45 AM

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And you updated to the latest bios?

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:45 AM

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those timings are fine

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:45 AM

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I don't have the gpu in hand

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I was offered it for free from someone

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:46 AM

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Ou gotcha

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ok

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Well nvm

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there goes my rx570 suggestion omegalul

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 3:46 AM

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@weak glacier is that the motherboard you are using now?

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:46 AM

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I don't have a pre existing buiold

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Build

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:46 AM

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B450 tomahawk brother

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:47 AM

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@weak glacier if you got an extra $100, this would do wonders for that PC https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-Radeon-RX-570-Gaming-X-4GB-Graphics-Card/153651424273?epid=19005254072&hash=item23c656ac11:g:0C8AAOSw-ixdUp7B

eBay

MSI Radeon RX 570 Gaming X 4GB Graphics Card

We evict them from your item with a careful vengeance.

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:47 AM

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wait actually

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what case you got

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:47 AM

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I have a solid Spectre monitor and the case is also something I'm getting free

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:47 AM

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4gb wuuut

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What size case

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you picked smol mobo

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Is that used?

gloomy rock Nov 14, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Just making sure you're checking. I had someone claim that cl 19 3600mhz was faster than cl 14 3200mhz

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:48 AM

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ooh i found a 580 for cheaper

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:48 AM

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I don't wanna buy something used

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:48 AM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-Radeon-RX-580-4GB-Gaming-X-Graphics-Card-B1-Fan-Defect/153651391322?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40719%26meid%3D8073f61b14cd426ca127b2faedd8b8f3%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D153651424273%26itm%3D153651391322%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982

eBay

MSI Radeon RX 580 4GB Gaming X Graphics Card - B1, Fan Defect

We evict them from your item with a careful vengeance.

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:48 AM

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4gb patrick

gloomy rock Nov 14, 2019, 3:48 AM

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My pawn shop was selling a 970 for $40

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:48 AM

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4gb is finnneeeee

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:48 AM

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doesn't that literally say fan defect?

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:48 AM

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linussebastian

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 3:48 AM

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Or he can bid and try to get this for less https://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-Nvidia-Geforce-GTX-1050-TI-4GB-Very-lightly-used/274094334672

eBay

DELL Nvidia Geforce GTX 1050 TI 4GB, Very lightly used

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for DELL Nvidia Geforce GTX 1050 TI 4GB, Very lightly used at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:49 AM

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It literally does LMAO

gloomy rock Nov 14, 2019, 3:49 AM

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Bruh it does say fan defect

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:49 AM

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Karen you're throwing

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:49 AM

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i don't want to but anything used, especially not from an individual

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buy*

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i don't got money to gamble

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:49 AM

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Just rx570 dood

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:49 AM

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here

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-GAMING-RX570-8GB-GRAPHIC-VIDEO-CARD-VGC-QTY-AVAIL/183998448873?hash=item2ad72984e9%3Ag%3AnGYAAOSwkgZdElso&LH_BIN=1

eBay

GIGABYTE GAMING RX570 8GB GRAPHIC VIDEO CARD VGC QTY AVAIL

Very good condition gigabyte rx570 8gb graphic cards. Has all the typical display ports. Extensively tested and benchmarked. Includes card only no boxes. Setup to be used for gaming and used in w10.

gloomy rock Nov 14, 2019, 3:49 AM

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@lime forge can I talk to your manager about your postings?

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:49 AM

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there

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:49 AM

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8gb

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:49 AM

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i found a 8gb 570 for $85

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:49 AM

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I approve

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:49 AM

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now stop complaining theo_angry

gloomy rock Nov 14, 2019, 3:50 AM

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Omg you're a traitor

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eBay instead of Newegg?!

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:50 AM

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Never aBlobRage

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:50 AM

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alright

gloomy rock Nov 14, 2019, 3:50 AM

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Banned

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:50 AM

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later losers entitled

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:50 AM

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Ok karen

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:50 AM

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i have managers i need to speak with

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no time for this

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entitled

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:50 AM

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Stop with that emoji

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:50 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PzM323/corsair-case-cc9011077ww

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That's the case

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I think

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:51 AM

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No side panel PepeHands

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das alright

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No rgb parts yet

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:51 AM

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I don't want a window til I can actually afford rgb stuff

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kirbounce

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:52 AM

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B450 tomahawk is rgb

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iirc it's the best b450 board

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 3:52 AM

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That case looks like it has no airflow

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:52 AM

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when you do get RGB, i recommend this case

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https://www.newegg.com/black-corsair-carbide-series-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139117?Description=275r&cm_re=275r-_-11-139-117-_-Product

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im using it right now

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relatively cheap, tempered glass, vertical gpu mount, psu shroud, grommets for wires

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it checks all the boxes

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:53 AM

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I was going to get a spec omega

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but then I didn't PepeHands

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:53 AM

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or i suppose

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if youre more worried about airflow

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https://www.newegg.com/black-corsair-275r-airflow-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139147?Description=275r&cm_re=275r-_-11-139-147-_-Product

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:53 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q3wx6R

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updated the list to include the case

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:53 AM

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thats exactly the same as the one i posted earlier but with holes in the front

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:53 AM

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Did you finish talking to those managers

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:54 AM

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lol im just procrastinating

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Didn't Box take away your techie licence for a reason Karen?

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:54 AM

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somebody paid me in a month of nitro to do some homework for them lol

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:54 AM

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also you have no storage

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:54 AM

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ecks

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stop

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just

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no

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Cringe

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:54 AM

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storage will be a 500 gig ssd of some sort

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:54 AM

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theres plenty of people who arent techie who help

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:54 AM

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and yes that's all I need to start

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Im not a techie but I also don't know anything about tech omegalul

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don't worry minecraft won't take up 500gb

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or whatever you plan on playing

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:55 AM

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roblox clubpenguin_dance

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:55 AM

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N o

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rage

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:55 AM

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indie games, tycoons, valve titles

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:56 AM

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950 will handle those just fine.

still roostBOT Nov 14, 2019, 3:56 AM

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Joe 🦃#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:56 AM

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half life 3 LUL

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:56 AM

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laptop will run that stuff but on lower gfx

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no bueno

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:56 AM

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also

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no swearing pls

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clubpenguin_dance

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:56 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Graphics-802-11ac-Ethernet-Windows/dp/B07FNYWGH6/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?keywords=acer+aspire+3&qid=1573703801&sprefix=acer+apsire&sr=8-12

round flare Nov 14, 2019, 3:56 AM

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frick no

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 3:56 AM

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pretty sure he knows since he got a warning

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:57 AM

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that's my current laptop

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:57 AM

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just reinforcing

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:57 AM

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yeah im not in any no swearing servers so now I know

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:57 AM

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no prob

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just wanted to make sure

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:58 AM

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as cheap as the laptop is the ryzen stuff in it is just awesome

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 3:58 AM

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The laptop is decent for media 2005 games and emulation really

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:59 AM

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runs stuff it shouldn't be able to run at the price point

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:59 AM

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good laptop, personally id swap the hard drive out for an SSD, but thats nit picking

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 3:59 AM

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if it was the 2500U then you wouldn't have any problems playing on medium to high settings

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 3:59 AM

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it has a silicon power ssd

lime forge Nov 14, 2019, 3:59 AM

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oh

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 4:00 AM

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i adore it, cheap and it's lasted me a couple years

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 4:01 AM

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You don't have Geforce Now do you?

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 4:01 AM

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me?

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 4:01 AM

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and also that app works with Intel and AMD GPU's

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yes

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 4:01 AM

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no I don't

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i just have the amd software

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 4:01 AM

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should sign up for it cause it is free

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 4:01 AM

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I think it's called free sync?

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 4:02 AM

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It is mainly playing your steam games on the cloud so even your laptop you have can play most games maxed out

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 4:02 AM

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and how much is that

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i play on WiFi and haven't had good experiences with cloud gaming.

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i can play games fine but cloud gaming no

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 4:03 AM

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You just sign up for it and wait for the invite

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Here this would also show you what i mean as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N_tNfBxCxE

YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 4:06 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HIA63AU/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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this is my monitor

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 4:09 AM

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I use Geforce Now on my laptop once in awhile when i want to give my main system a break which for me i have no issues but then again i have a very fast internet connection

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 4:09 AM

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yeah it's not viable for me

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my new isp doesn't work very well with the Ethernet over power stuff I bought

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idk why

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the one I had previously, it worked great and gave me awesome speeds

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 4:10 AM

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He was using ethernet in the video as an example you can still use it over WiFi but your wireless router would need to be a dual band 5GHz

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 4:10 AM

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yeah now it's only 25mbps

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whereas WiFi is many times faster

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logical right

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but yeah I just want a desktop that can perform noticably better than the laptop

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it's basically a Minecraft, Warframe, and left 4 dead on lower settings.machine

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Warframe has pretty bad fps but I can get away with playing it on certain settings without cringing horribly

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 4:13 AM

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My laptop is actually better than the one you have cause for games like Overwatch and Left 4 Dead i can pretty much play on high settings but the reason i use Geforce Now on my laptop is for games like The Division 2 which wont run natively on it

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This is just an example from my desktop right now for the connection needed for it https://i.gyazo.com/e1ce809f678ee52e3b457aff44367fd5.png

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normally everything is good but lately i have been too lazy to swap servers

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@weak glacier Just letting you know for now the games you mentioned the GTX 950 will be alright but if you plan on playing more demanding games you are going to need to replace the GPU

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 4:18 AM

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I'd get a better gpu later on

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the only ones recommended to me though were all used off eBay though

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 4:19 AM

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Also when you get a new GPU try out World War Z

weak glacier Nov 14, 2019, 4:19 AM

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which I do not have any interest in

latent bronze Nov 14, 2019, 4:19 AM

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If you love Left 4 Dead you would like that game

hollow glen Nov 14, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Primary game is WOW

tropic estuary Nov 14, 2019, 8:43 PM

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can you buy thermal pads for gpus?

tropic estuary Nov 14, 2019, 9:28 PM

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does ryzen 3rd gen run good with 3200mhz memory?

fluid raven Nov 14, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Yes

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It runs best with 3600 CAS 14 iirc

sudden turret Nov 14, 2019, 10:26 PM

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not so much the cas, but just 3600mhz in general

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 2:54 AM

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Quick question for anybody. I ended up getting the m.2 EVO from Samsung. The motherboard I got comes with a heat shield with mild adhesive thermal pad. Should I leave the sticker on the SSD?

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I'm thinking I'm going to leave the sticker on and that it's probably not meant to be removed, and will work with the heatsink on the motherboard.

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 2:55 AM

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yes it is the warranty for it

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 2:55 AM

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awesome, thank you @latent bronze .

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So put the heat sink right on?

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 2:55 AM

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pretty much

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 2:55 AM

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Awesome!!! Thank you much.

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Does the CPU just drop in? I'm about to start putting this thing together.

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I washed a few videos, it looks like it just drops in and is flat. I almost remember my phenom 2 having actual pins that dropped in.

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*watched

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 2:57 AM

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um

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be careful

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you know about aligning the triangles, right?

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 2:57 AM

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Yeah, the triangle in the corner and two notches, right?

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 2:58 AM

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latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 2:58 AM

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For AMD just drop it in and don't move it around

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 2:58 AM

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make sure you do that part right

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 2:58 AM

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it's an intel chip, i9. The contacts seem flat as opposed to being male/female

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^definitely zack

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 2:58 AM

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yeo

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the pins are in the mobo

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so just ligtly set it in

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lightly*

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 2:59 AM

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still don't want to move it around just put it on top and it is ok

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 2:59 AM

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my dad jiggled around his 9940x 'just to be sure' and i sat there like wtf

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luckily it still works

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 2:59 AM

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usually don't want to do that cause it could bend or dmg the pins

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both AMD and Intel

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 3:00 AM

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I'm not going to force anything at all, right? that would be insane

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 3:00 AM

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yeah

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dont apply force

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 3:00 AM

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I'm just going to set it in and close the latch back down without pressure

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 3:00 AM

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yep

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the latches feel like theres too much resistance, but there isnt, just go slowly

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 3:00 AM

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If you're using a 3rd party cooler and you have to put thermal paste just do this http://www.circuitremix.com/images/124/apply_1.jpg

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 3:01 AM

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id do a bit larger than that but thats just me

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 3:01 AM

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that is more than enough and would spread when you put the cooler on

pulsar garnet Nov 15, 2019, 3:01 AM

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~~put the paste on the socket then put the cpu in~~

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 3:01 AM

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zovyra theo_angry

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dont make me take your techie away

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 3:01 AM

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lol

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is it true you can put the paste on your tongue and lick it onto the CPU?

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 3:01 AM

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alright im out

pulsar garnet Nov 15, 2019, 3:01 AM

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yeah

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 3:01 AM

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👋

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 3:02 AM

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thanks for your help zack!

pulsar garnet Nov 15, 2019, 3:02 AM

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no guarantee it'd be nice

gloomy rock Nov 15, 2019, 3:02 AM

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@ornate tulip yes you can but I'm not responsible if you get poisoned

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 3:02 AM

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Make sure to write your will so someone can get that PC lol

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 3:03 AM

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😄 lol

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I wonder if it would be better to install in M2A or M2M slot. One may be blocked by CPU fan, and the other might get hot from the video card. Anybody have any suggestions?

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I think I'm going for the top slot

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 3:21 AM

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What is the board

pulsar garnet Nov 15, 2019, 3:21 AM

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read the manual

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Auros z390 pro wifi

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 3:21 AM

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cause some that has 2 M.2 slots usually one is made for NVMe while the other would be for like Sata type

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This should help https://i.gyazo.com/4cce320f302d392bc4e39b543763edbb.png

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 3:25 AM

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Hmmm I guess the top slot shares with the SATA 1 bandwidth and the bottom slot shares with SATA 4 and 5 (??)

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 3:26 AM

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tells you which sata ports would be disabled

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normally as well the top M.2 is the faster one

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Nice thanks, I see that in the manual and wasn't sure what that meant. It seems like with PCIe it wouldn't affect any of the memory paths (what are they called, ports? connectors? I think they share bandwidth)

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I'm gonna put it in top, thanks @latent bronze

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 3:29 AM

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np

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 4:03 AM

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OK I think I did it, it looks like this, kind of catty wompus https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC_0257-Custom.jpg

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I just dropped it in, it had an ever so slight wiggle. I left it, pressed the thing down, and it looks like that ^

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 4:03 AM

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👍

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 5:06 AM

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If anyone's there, the CPU heatsink BARELY fits! I can slide a piece of paper in and out of it but it doesn't touch the glass. Are the stand-off bolts in the case what the motherboard sits on? There are no plastic washers or anything? I did read the installation manual and that seems to be the case but wanted to see if that's normal. If I add anything else I don't think it will fit!

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The bolts seem pre-installed, 9 altogether

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?

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I will try to watch some builds.

elfin rampart Nov 15, 2019, 9:16 AM

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Can someone make me a $600 pc build

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 10:19 AM

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@elfin rampart https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xqzb8M

little osprey Nov 15, 2019, 12:08 PM

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Is this build decent
•Gtx 1060 3gb
•Intel i7-8700
•16gb ddr3 ram
•1tb hdd
•256 gb ssd
•Corsair h60 water cooler
•80+gold 500w
•Asus ROG strix B450-F

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 12:21 PM

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GPU is a bit lacking compared to the CPU, ram isnt compatible, cooler is meh but, its a non K CPU, and none of it will work since you have a B450 motherboard

@little osprey

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just, a bunch of random parts that dont work with each other, like, physically not compatible

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so no... not a decent build

little osprey Nov 15, 2019, 12:42 PM

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@austere condor thank you a friend was selling me all these parts to build my own good thing I didn’t buy them

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 12:44 PM

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@little osprey what is your budget to build a system?

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cause you can buy some of the parts and work with that to build a pretty decent PC

little osprey Nov 15, 2019, 12:51 PM

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@austere condor 900 I’m a starter to this

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 12:52 PM

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wow, for $900 you can get MUCH better parts than all that

little osprey Nov 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

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This is what a friend told me to get

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

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pepe_scared

little osprey Nov 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nRfYHB

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

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you can get a lot better

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

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oh no

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what the heck

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is that list

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thats so bad

little osprey Nov 15, 2019, 12:54 PM

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The motherboard is trash since the one that he told me to get is not available there

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 12:54 PM

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i would highly recommend to never take computer advice from your friend ever again

little osprey Nov 15, 2019, 12:55 PM

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🤣🤣ok good to know

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 12:55 PM

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thats real?

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no joke?

little osprey Nov 15, 2019, 12:56 PM

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Yes fr he was prob trying to mess me up since I’m new to all this

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 12:56 PM

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like, it takes effort to be that bad at computers

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its honestly impressive

little osprey Nov 15, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Yeah

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 12:58 PM

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yikes

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if you want to listen to anyone, listen to Demon.

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 12:59 PM

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@little osprey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHY6ygHj80c

YouTube

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▶ Play video

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watch this video, and part 2 and part 3

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 1:00 PM

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heres what i came up with

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YxLvWb

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oops

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wait

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i forgot a psu

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:01 PM

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good thing you're not a Techie role.

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:02 PM

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@little osprey you like fancy lights and RGB or no RGB?

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:02 PM

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did you check the QVL on that ram/mobo @lime forge

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 1:02 PM

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i have no clue what that is

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:02 PM

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facepalm

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qualified vendor list.

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 1:03 PM

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i mean

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will that ram not work?

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:04 PM

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would have to check

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:04 PM

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@little osprey

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XHfYHB

i would purchase something like this for a $900 PC

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:04 PM

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lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 1:06 PM

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found it

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sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:07 PM

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that just means it'll for sure work with ryzen.

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 1:07 PM

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hm

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ive never check that ever dog_Laugh

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:07 PM

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😐

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 1:07 PM

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guess ive been lucky

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:08 PM

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did you miss that part where amd has had ram issues.

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 1:08 PM

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ive never bought an amd system

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:08 PM

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and here you are giving advice?!

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:08 PM

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yeah back on Zen, Zen+ and Zen 2 has fixed just about all of those issues @sudden turret

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:08 PM

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lol

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yeah almost all

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but still issues and good habit to check 😛

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:09 PM

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1st gen ryzen was picky with ram and their boards until BIOS updates started rolling out to fix the majority of the problems, with 3rd gen ryzen, there arnt any issues that i have seen

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:09 PM

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I've had issues with 3rd gen

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:10 PM

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as long as you stick to reasonably known brands you're fine

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:10 PM

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the ram i got from dennis wasn't compatible with my 3700x

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:10 PM

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old kits from X99 era you essentially gotta watch out for

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1st generation DDR4 is picky

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i have a kit of it

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works great on intel, XMP wont work on a ryzen CPU though

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:11 PM

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it's still a good habit for zack to check 😉

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:11 PM

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so its stuck running 2133

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@lime forge

lets run down your list so you can see whats not well optimized about it

CPU great, good choice
Board is overkill for the budget. X570 is still quite expensive for the average system, and there really isnt a benefit that can be used today running a X570 board over a B450
ram, good, good speed, ok timings, and price
660p for MOST people is going to be fine, but, just looking at it from a tech perspective, its aweful. QLC nand (saving 4 bits of data per cell) is very price efficient, but not for speed or reliability. just because something is NVMe doesnt mean its good. the way that drive caches data is wonky, no dedicated cache.
awesome HDD, but 3TB of space for a budget gaming PC? might be a bit overkill
1660ti doesnt make any sense now adays to buy new. 5700 is $20 more for a big performance boost, or the 1660 super is $50 less for 3-4% slower performance? something like that. its just not the best option today.
H510 is a really popular case because it has been advertised like no other. if only the performance was there. its ok, but leaves a lot to be desired. better cases for less, and nice looking cases that perform better for the same price are out there.
no PSU. but you caught that, but that would have put you over budget anyways

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 1:18 PM

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i thought i had selected the psu

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i just forgot it

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and i chose the case because it looks good ;p

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:18 PM

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should look for options that are good in performance and looks

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 1:18 PM

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and i chose x570 because he is new to building and i figured it would be easier than updating the bios

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also the 2tb hard drive was $50

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:19 PM

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MSI B450 MAX boards are shipped with the latest BIOS for Ryzen 3000

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 1:19 PM

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ah

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i didnt know that

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ill remember for later tho

livid bolt Nov 15, 2019, 1:29 PM

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Guys which cpu is better i7-9700k or amd ryzen 7 3800x

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:29 PM

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depends what you're trying to do.

livid bolt Nov 15, 2019, 1:29 PM

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Gaming

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:30 PM

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those are both pretty over the top to just game on

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imo.

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"for purely gaming there is very little reason not to consider the i5-9600K which, when overclocked, offers almost equivalent gaming performance but at a 35% discount."

livid bolt Nov 15, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Well i only want my pc (ye i will be getting a pc) for gaming and maybe some school works

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:32 PM

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thought you was going for a laptop

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😄

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You're a confusing human.

livid bolt Nov 15, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Ye lol

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:33 PM

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but yeah, you can go lower on the cpu bracket, and still do what you want.. while saving a lot of coin.

livid bolt Nov 15, 2019, 1:34 PM

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Will i be able to fun the latest game smoothly

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:34 PM

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totally.

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that boils down to gpu.

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and ssd.

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:34 PM

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3800x shouldnt even be an option. the 9700k is much faster. but, its also quite a bit expensive. most people will be just fine with a R5 3600 for a gaming PC unless they are going for high refresh rate gaming

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:35 PM

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unless of course you want bragging rights.

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I have a 3700x to just game on, totally ridiculous

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but I wanted new shiny.

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but I probably won't buy another cpu for 10years.

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:40 PM

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yeah, but $100+ more for 2-3% more performance for bragging rights, isnt the best use of your money

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:41 PM

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there is no price on bragging rights

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:41 PM

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(but... i totally understand where you're coming from)

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:41 PM

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😄

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:41 PM

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not like i just spent $800 on a custom loop to get a few more % out of my CPU

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:41 PM

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rofl

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but it looks so dang sexy

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:41 PM

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#worthit

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:41 PM

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you can't put a price on sexy

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or hobby

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:42 PM

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i lost the ability to use 3.5in HDD's

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:42 PM

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meh who uses thoses anywayys

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:42 PM

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so, i have to get something 2.5in to do more storage

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$86 right now for a 1TB SSD from newegg

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:42 PM

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oooh that is sweet

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:43 PM

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i would love to keep all samsung drives in my rig

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but

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i think a QVC is still mroe expensive

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*qvo

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same thing

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XD

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but yeah, cant say no to that

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thats cheap AF

livid bolt Nov 15, 2019, 1:47 PM

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So which cpu do u recommend?i5-9600k?I want to run every game smoothly im not a streamer

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 1:48 PM

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R5 3600 is the best option today for PC gaming for the price

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 1:49 PM

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what GPU do you have in mind yeslo

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and games, what you trying to play?

livid bolt Nov 15, 2019, 1:55 PM

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I haven’t decided yet,but im a big fifa fan and i will play games like call of duty and so

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Hey look my SSD lol

livid bolt Nov 15, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Lol

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Can anybody help me with the motherboard?

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 2:12 PM

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MSI B450 A-Pro Max, Gaming plus max, Tomahawk Max, @livid bolt

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 2:16 PM

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But what CPU did he decide on

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@austere condor i can also vouch for that SSD and say that it is very good

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 2:17 PM

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yeah, one of the best in terms of budget options

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great controller, TLC nand etc etc

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ive bought several in the past

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 2:17 PM

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using 2 in my desktop and 1 in my laptop

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 2:17 PM

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but, not a 1TB yet

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XD

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Thinking of replacing my 480gb 2.5" SSD with this https://www.newegg.ca/western-digital-blue-sn500-nvme-500gb/p/N82E16820250116

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@austere condor This is my results for the 1TB drive https://i.gyazo.com/bc93445cc162d2736268f2b9e6a1f8ef.png

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the same one you showed

livid bolt Nov 15, 2019, 2:37 PM

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@austere condor can you send me a link of that motherboard?Where can i buy it?

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 2:38 PM

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@livid bolt You can buy it on newegg

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 2:38 PM

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newegg 😉

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 2:39 PM

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@livid bolt https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#m=27&s=33&f=2&c=133&L=4&N=4,16&sort=price&page=1

livid bolt Nov 15, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Which one do u recommend

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 2:41 PM

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Gaming Plus Max

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I believe Tomahawk Max would be better but if your budget is a little tight as well i would go with the Gaming Plus Max

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 2:48 PM

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a-pro, gaming plus, tomahawk are all the same board

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the MAX ones are bios updated out of the box for Ryzen 3000

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tomahawk has better VRM cooling on it though

livid bolt Nov 15, 2019, 3:17 PM

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I have a 1200$ budget can you help me build a gaming pc?I want to run everygame smoothly.I am big fan of fifa but i play heavy games like mw red dead 2 sometimes too.I am not a streamer or anything,i will use the pc for school too

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Im not good at building pcs

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So if you could help me i would appreciate it a lot

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 3:36 PM

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you need everything with the pc?

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monitor/mouse/keyboard

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 4:04 PM

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DeadChat

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 4:22 PM

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That's what she said

livid bolt Nov 15, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Yes @sudden turret

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But i can buy the monitor over time too

austere condor Nov 15, 2019, 4:33 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/84WMcq

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@livid bolt

livid bolt Nov 15, 2019, 4:36 PM

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It will be able to run games like mw good right?

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 4:44 PM

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yes

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 5:29 PM

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so a lot of the cables from my PSU are split into two 4 and 2 plugs. Do I treat those as a single 6, for example? I can assume they can be joined or separated for different situations?

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 5:29 PM

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What do you mean

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 5:29 PM

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4+2 pin

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is what he is talking about

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 5:30 PM

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my mind is a little tired right now cause of lack of sleep

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 5:30 PM

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but yeah Jerry.

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 5:33 PM

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awesome, thanks @sudden turret . I plugged the MOBO power supply cord into the "ATX" slot (as it's described in the manual) and the USB plugs from the case into the USB port on the mobo. Does that sound right? Do you or anybody else know how many "CPU" cords I should use for an i9? I see there are 8 pins on the MOBO split into two sections of 4 and 8 pins. I'm a little confused.

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Can't seem to google my question or not sure what to search for.

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 5:33 PM

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usually the extra plug for the 12v rail is for overclocking

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probably ok with using the 8pin rail

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 5:34 PM

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I see. It's listed as "atx_12v_2x2/atx_12v_2x4"

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and it's a row of 2x2 and a row of 2x4

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 5:35 PM

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which mobo is it

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 5:35 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145091

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"GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z390 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard "

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 5:37 PM

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ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 5:38 PM

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That makes me feel like I should use them all! :S I don't want to fry the thing

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 5:39 PM

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not going to hurt anything. fill it up

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 5:39 PM

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I think I would need two CPU cables from the PSU (Seasonic focus gold 850watt)

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 5:39 PM

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@warm nova is our resident aorus nerd.

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 5:39 PM

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😄 Alrighty, I hope you're right. Seems kinda weird to use two power cables but that image definitely makes it seem like it should get used

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 5:39 PM

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well

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most the time like that the extra one is for over clocking, to give more power to the mobo

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i'd plug in just the 8 pin and roll with it

warm nova Nov 15, 2019, 5:40 PM

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The 8 pin is necessary, the 4 pin is optional

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 5:41 PM

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if that's how that .. yeah

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so the 4 pin would provide the extra uNF for OC.

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time allen grunts

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Moar powah

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Should I just do that? I'll start with the 8 pin

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 5:47 PM

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yes, 8pin is required

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no need for the 4pin.

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unless you want to overclock 🙂

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Awesome, I'll just do 8. Thank you @sudden turret ^naaaa that kinda scares me a little 😛 maybe in the future but I just wanna get the thing to turn on for the time being

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 5:49 PM

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right on, let us know if you need help for anything else. and we expect to see some build pics 🙂

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 5:50 PM

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For sure!! 😄 I got a crummy camera but I'll take some pics.

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 6:41 PM

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So before I go and install a bunch of fans wrong, fans blow from their front-facing emblem back behind them, right? So an intake fan would be pointed with the front/emblem out, right??

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and exhaust would be emblem in? They really kind of suck instead of blow, no?

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 6:42 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Perfect!!! Thank you Zack, wanted to confirm.

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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what case do you have?

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Lian Li PC-o11

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 6:43 PM

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i did something right theo_cat_arms

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

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how many fans?

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

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I was going to have 4 intake on side and bottom (2 each) and 2 exhaust at top. I have 10 fans total, there are slots for 9

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

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nice

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

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woah

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

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I've gotten lots of conflicting information about whether exhaust or intake should be more prominent

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

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well

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it's really up to you

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

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usually you want more intake than exhaust, if possible

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

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and how you have it set up

lime forge Nov 15, 2019, 6:45 PM

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but it still moves air ¯_(ツ)_/¯

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:45 PM

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I like to pull air up from the bottom, and out the top.

tidal bluff Nov 15, 2019, 6:45 PM

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i usually follow the flow directions of the case manufacturer

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 6:45 PM

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I heard also that even vents with no fans would be considered "exhaust" and the back of the case is basically open, a giant vent. ^directions are kind of sparse 😦

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:46 PM

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think like air flow basically

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but get all set up and give us a good picture, and we can help tweak/fine tune anything.

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 6:47 PM

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definitely! Is it OK to "daisy chain" fans? I'd assume they'd be controlled by the same fan port if they are

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Wait how are you going to have 4 on the side if only 3 can fit?

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 6:47 PM

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2 intake on bottom, 2 intake on side, 2 exhaust on top and CPU fan blowing to the back, which is open

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:47 PM

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depends on the fans, dont want to put to much stress on one fan header

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 6:48 PM

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It would be 2 max

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:48 PM

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should be ok

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 6:49 PM

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@latent bronze I'm torn about the whole intake/exhaust thing. I'm gonna try this and check temps. There were so many different videos saying one thing or the other. I figure the entire rear of the case is basically an exhaust if there's air blowing at it

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Thank you as well boX

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:50 PM

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so you basically did this?

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the red square is your cpu cooler

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 6:50 PM

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That's what I'm thinking, yeah

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:50 PM

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good air flow

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 6:50 PM

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It is an exhaust port but nothing to help really to push it out quick enough really which is why when you look at a lot of build images as well for that case they tend to have the sides doing exhaust as well

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:51 PM

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but he has alot of fans, more than enough to keep air circulating

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if anything get 2 80mm fans for the back exhaust

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 6:51 PM

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I was going to do 2 bottom left (in the pic), two bottom side, and two top left blowing out.

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:51 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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since you're not over clocking I'm sure your temps will be fine with that arrangement

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 6:52 PM

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That's a good idea, yeah. It is heavy on intake without much exhaust. I can put three on top but it would be nice to have an extra in the back, but there aren't any spots

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Well i would suggest when everything is built to use Aida64 to stress the system

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:53 PM

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eh

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Maybe just on the vent, a smaller fan like you said. ^hmmmmm

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:53 PM

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no need to stress the system

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 6:53 PM

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But it would help him know how well the system would work out and for the airflow as well

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:53 PM

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or just regular use..

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 6:53 PM

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I might do that a little down the road, I'm just hoping it powers on! 😛 ^true, yeah.

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I'm not trying to blow it up, just hoping the power button works, lol!

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:54 PM

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thoughts on All in one coolers? 🙂

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 6:54 PM

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asking him or for yourself?

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:54 PM

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for him.

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you know my cooling setup...

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lol

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 6:55 PM

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I don't know your cooling setup

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:55 PM

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oh.

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📎 67592232_2582178238473734_7836106353390125056_o.jpg

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 6:55 PM

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i remember the former mod (not saying names cause i dont know if it is taboo) cooling setup cause he always talked about it

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:56 PM

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that bascially

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just a little different now.

latent bronze Nov 15, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Looks almost the way my case is designed but a little smaller

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 6:57 PM

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ive since changed the fans,and the loop flow but it give you an idea

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to lazy to give current picture

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 7:44 PM

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Is there any reason to have two SSD drives and one backup HDD? I got an encased 1tb SSD and it was suggested to get M.2, so I currently have both but was going to return the encased SSD. Should I keep it and use it as backup? I already got an HDD but I wonder if there is any benefit in any way to having two SSD drives. Two backup drives would be nice, I think.

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 7:45 PM

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more the better 🙂

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Hmmmmmmmm

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 7:46 PM

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how big are the ssds

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 7:46 PM

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each one is 1tb

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 7:46 PM

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games run better on ssd

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oh wow

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wish I had a 1tb ssd

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lol

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but yeah you could return one, if you don't think you'll use it up

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 7:47 PM

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I have a 256 gb ssd currently and it's awesome, I just got more space because it was really cheap compared to when I got my 256 gb

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 7:47 PM

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1tb gaming , hhd for overflow

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Would it make sense to use it as purely a backup? Like mirror the main drive?

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 7:47 PM

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what is your OS going on?

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 7:47 PM

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The M.2 ssd on the motherboard

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 7:47 PM

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gotcha

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 7:48 PM

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I was going to use that as THE main drive, with OS, software, current files, etc

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 7:48 PM

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that's what I do

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Then I figured the extra SSD could be backup, but I could also return it :S

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 7:48 PM

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m.2 os/software SSD for my main game I play, then everything else goes on my hybrid drive

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yeah 1tb ssd would be some decent pocket change back

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 7:49 PM

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I think you're right, yeah.

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It was 150 for 1tb though, not too bad at all.

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 7:49 PM

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true

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 7:49 PM

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for 256 years back I paid like 250 I think :S

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 7:50 PM

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yeah they were bad expensive back in the day

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I paid 127 bucks for my 250gb nvme. 😠

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 7:50 PM

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When did you buy it? I bought a 1tb EVO plus for 199 to replace the 1tb EVO ssd encased drive.

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 7:50 PM

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gotta go get the kiddo from school, dang rain and cold outside.

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 7:51 PM

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Ah, thanks for your help boX! Have fun! 😄

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Last ssd I got was a 2.5" 256gb Samsung pro for like 250 bucks.

livid bolt Nov 15, 2019, 8:34 PM

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@austere condor what are some upgrades i can make in the future?

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 9:32 PM

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I'm about to turn this thing on, should I pray or just do it?

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 9:55 PM

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DO EET!!!

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@ornate tulip what happened

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 10:03 PM

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@sudden turret I turned it on and it went to BIOS, and had CPU temp and fan RPM and everything!!! 😄 IT'S ALIVE!!!

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I only have wireless keyboards and I wonder if I'll be able to proceed without a simple wired keyboard. ?? I tried to plug in wireless but I can't control anything, presumably because there aren't drivers installed.

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@boX it's looking promising. I haven't installed the GPU yet, was going to wait until I installed windows but I'm not sure what would be best. For the time being, I am not able to edit the BIOS because I have no wired keyboard/mouse. Wondering if that's needed or if there's a workaround, or if I should run up to bestbuy or something.

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 10:23 PM

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uh

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I really never tried a new setup with wireless stuff, so I couldn't tell ya

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Seems like RF works but bluetooth doesn't work. Should be good. All is looking pretty good boX! 😄

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Hasn't blown up or spat acid into my face yet, no house fires.

sudden turret Nov 15, 2019, 10:50 PM

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eggcellent

ornate tulip Nov 15, 2019, 11:42 PM

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I'm getting error messages when installing windows. It says "Windows installation encountered an unexpected error. Verify that the installation sources are accessible, and restart the installation" or "Windows cannot install required files. The file may be corrupt or missing. Make sure all files required for installation are available, and restart installation." ....

little osprey Nov 15, 2019, 11:54 PM

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How do these parts sound

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Intel I7-6700K 4Ghz Quad Core
GTX 1050 TI 4Gb
MSI B360M Pro
EVO SPEAR AMD edition 16Gb (8x2 Gb sticks)
400 Watt power supply
ADATA 512 Gb SSD

latent bronze Nov 16, 2019, 12:05 AM

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1060/1660 would be better

little osprey Nov 16, 2019, 12:15 AM

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I’m on a budget :/

latent bronze Nov 16, 2019, 12:20 AM

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You can find a 1060 used for under 200

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Can try and win this for like 100$ https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-GeForce-GTX-1060-6GB-GDDR5-Graphics-Card/143441880933

eBay

ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5 Graphics Card

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5 Graphics Card at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

little osprey Nov 16, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Oh

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Thanks ^-^

latent bronze Nov 16, 2019, 12:56 AM

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1050 Ti is not bad but you would want to have something that could last more than a year

lime forge Nov 16, 2019, 12:57 AM

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used 1070 for $200 clubpenguin_dance

latent bronze Nov 16, 2019, 1:04 AM

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He just said he is on a budget

lime forge Nov 16, 2019, 1:04 AM

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oh

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?

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rx 570 clubpenguin_dance

latent bronze Nov 16, 2019, 1:05 AM

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If he can win that 1060 for under 100$ it would be far better than a 570

ornate tulip Nov 16, 2019, 3:47 AM

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well folks, seemingly working awesomely. The whole affair was somewhat anticlimactic.

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I'll post some pics if I'm able. The thing I was worried about most was the clearance of the heatsink, which clears by about a sheet of paper's thickness.

golden forge Nov 16, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Anyone know any good Black Friday sales coming up? I’m looking for a CPU (preferably 3900 AMD) but, I love “shopping” for stuff... even though I don’t buy it, lol.

fossil hedge Nov 16, 2019, 10:33 PM

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well

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I bet anything linus tech tips, bitwit, jay2cents, pauls hardware, and proububly gamers nexus will be doing somthing like a build giude on black Friday. you could check them when you want to buy somthing

little osprey Nov 16, 2019, 11:09 PM

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how good are the AMD A8 proccesor and r5 graphics card?

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for a cheap laptop

chilly marsh Nov 16, 2019, 11:09 PM

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its eh

sudden turret Nov 16, 2019, 11:11 PM

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this

little osprey Nov 16, 2019, 11:12 PM

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for a cheapo laptop

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you know web browsing and such

chilly marsh Nov 16, 2019, 11:12 PM

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like i said

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eh.

fossil hedge Nov 16, 2019, 11:38 PM

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I bet anything 2nd gen threddrippers, old thredripper motherbourds, 10 series GPUS will drop proububly if there are any left

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intel is proububly going to keep theres the same.

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 6:53 AM

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I'm a AMD guy i have blown through 13 Intel chips

pseudo osprey Nov 17, 2019, 7:36 AM

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Hey does anyone know a motherboard similar to this that supports ryzen 3rd gen and is around this price thanks MSI Performance Gaming AMD Ryzen 2ND and 3rd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 DVI HDMI Crossfire ATX Motherboard (B450 Gaming Plus Max) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XHH4YG4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ZGp0Db1MKBZ62

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 8:22 AM

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that one supports 3rd gen ryzen

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i would be hesitant to throw a 3900x/3950x or one of the higher end 3rd gens just because it may have lackluster VRMs and stuff, but i can't confirm that

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but a 3600 or something like that should be fine on that kinda board

pseudo osprey Nov 17, 2019, 10:07 AM

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You think 3700x or a 3800x should be fine

lime forge Nov 17, 2019, 1:32 PM

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@pseudo osprey 3700x

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3800x isn't worth the extra money

deep skiff Nov 17, 2019, 1:57 PM

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I mean the 3800x is 330 at microcenter and 355 on amazon, id pay 25 more for better binned and +200mhz

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that’s like saying the 9900ks isn’t worth it because you can oc it to 5ghz all core

lime forge Nov 17, 2019, 2:12 PM

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ah i forgot it was on sale

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 2:16 PM

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I think the 9900ks vs 9900k is a slightly larger performance bump vs 3800x vs 3700x - regardless, a sale/discount/combo etc could pull either premium SKU down in price such that the gap in cost is trivial even with such a small performance margin.

tulip jolt Nov 17, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Can someone tell me if the Ryzen 7 2700x is good for gaming and streaming Im building my brother a new pc for Christmas

lime forge Nov 17, 2019, 4:51 PM

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yes

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it is good

tulip jolt Nov 17, 2019, 4:51 PM

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ok

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Can we post links

lime forge Nov 17, 2019, 4:52 PM

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yep

tulip jolt Nov 17, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Is this a good motherboard https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FKTSWNG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

lime forge Nov 17, 2019, 4:53 PM

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yes

tulip jolt Nov 17, 2019, 4:54 PM

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will that work with that cpu

lime forge Nov 17, 2019, 4:54 PM

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yes

tulip jolt Nov 17, 2019, 4:54 PM

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alright thanks

lime forge Nov 17, 2019, 4:54 PM

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np

west finch Nov 17, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Are you getting that motherboard baccarat you're making a small form factor pc?

deep skiff Nov 17, 2019, 5:29 PM

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if you do need a itx board, i'd go with this one instead as the only thing it really doesnt have is 2 m.2 nvme drive spaces, only 1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F83RY49?

latent bronze Nov 17, 2019, 5:53 PM

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@limpid fossil For what games is your son playing or plan on playing and how much is your budget

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:03 PM

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I need help building a pc that can stream and play fortnite with no input delay on my pc, looking to spend around 1.5-2k

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No input delay on my controller^

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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@little osprey at what resolution and refresh rate are you aiming for

round flare Nov 17, 2019, 9:21 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PfkJf9

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oh if you're streaming the 2700x is also great

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if you're only playing fortnite the video card doesn't need to he insanely beefy

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:25 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2gpBcq

round flare Nov 17, 2019, 9:25 PM

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oh ye 32 gb of ram would be nice too

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I picked that kit cause the timings and speed were good

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Thats the top end of the budget but has amazing specs

round flare Nov 17, 2019, 9:26 PM

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3900x might be more than they need though

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I was gonna do 3700 originally but they didn't say what else they planned to do with the system

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:27 PM

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yeah but to eliminate lag or any overhead from the streaming to delay inputs or anything else on the system if they care to start video editing and recording while streaming

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:28 PM

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a 3900x is probably overkill tbh, i have been testing out streaming 1080@60hz, using nvenc to capture 4k gameplay, encoded to 1080@60, and i am at like 25% cpu usage

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i.e., he can likely get away with a 3700/2700

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i know that's gpu capture but

round flare Nov 17, 2019, 9:29 PM

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they didn't say if they needed to fit a monitor either

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which is why I threw one in

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:30 PM

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honestly that's similar to what i'd start with

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Yeah but for anything post processing having the extra cores will help with that. It also includes a 2560x1080 75hz monitor

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:30 PM

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yeah especially using an amd card that doesn't have the nvenc those extra cores will pay off imo

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i am pretty sold on the nvenc tbh for casual streaming and i would probably swap that out for a 2070s but that's just my bias

round flare Nov 17, 2019, 9:31 PM

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I was originally going to put in a 2080 super but realized that is very over the top

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unless they want to play in 4k omegalul

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:32 PM

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i would jump up to 32gb ram and a 3700x, that ends up being...what, $250 more?

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Which one are you talking about

round flare Nov 17, 2019, 9:32 PM

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mine probably

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:32 PM

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emporer's, yeah

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:33 PM

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for that i would also reccomend a less expensive case for that one imo

round flare Nov 17, 2019, 9:33 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mz9cTC

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It still fits aBlobRage

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they need that rgb FeelsNeatMan

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:34 PM

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it's interesting seeing how differently people value things

round flare Nov 17, 2019, 9:34 PM

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omegalul

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:34 PM

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yeag but is the 4 less cores and the smaller rad for what 100 dollars worth it

round flare Nov 17, 2019, 9:34 PM

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I have a 3700 and 32gb now

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still have a fair bit left over

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with a 1440p monitor

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:35 PM

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yeah i think that 75hz ultrawide is very lackluster

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that 5700xt will be pumping way higher than 75 fps

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:35 PM

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i use it as my daily

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:35 PM

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well, for some games at least

round flare Nov 17, 2019, 9:36 PM

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I picket the red devil because it's supposed to be the "best" of all of them right

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:36 PM

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i think the overwhelming majority of people who are going to be focusing on gaming will get a lot more mileage out of the dell 1440 144hz panel

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for an inexpensive panel

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a little extra real estate for 144hz is not a good trade for me but ymmv

latent bronze Nov 17, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Some monitors you can overclock it so it can go past 75hz

round flare Nov 17, 2019, 9:37 PM

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mine went from 120 to 144 FeelsNeatMan

sudden turret Nov 17, 2019, 9:38 PM

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wont last long

round flare Nov 17, 2019, 9:38 PM

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the box said it's supposed to oc PepeHands

latent bronze Nov 17, 2019, 9:38 PM

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I have a 60hz monitor and i have it overclocked to 72hz and i have been using this for like 2 years

round flare Nov 17, 2019, 9:38 PM

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don't bully my monitor

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:38 PM

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yeah like, i would rather just spend an extra $50 and get a much better panel

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hell the 144hz panels are the same price if not less expensive

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i would die if i went back to a sub-100hz panel after having one for some time

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again ymmv but

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:39 PM

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if you havent tried it many people arent able to tell. i got my esports frineds to see if they can tell but they cant tell between 144 hz and 75

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:39 PM

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uh

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they should have their eyes checked because there's a tremendous difference

round flare Nov 17, 2019, 9:39 PM

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I could only see the difference between 60 and 144

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any increment lower than 40 I couldn't see

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I might just be blind tho loo

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lol

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:40 PM

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i notice much less of a difference between 100 to 120 or 144, but the difference between 60 and 90 is huge

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at least for me

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:40 PM

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like check this video you may find it interesting

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pI1LLVPdSs

YouTube

JayzTwoCents

Can the human eye see a difference in refresh rates? Fast monitor ...

We decided to test the theory that you CANT see a difference between different refresh rates... these results were surprising to both of us... Learn more abo...

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little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:40 PM

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yeah i watched that, and said the same thing

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he's blind, or i am just blessed with special eyes

vague willow Nov 17, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Lol

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:41 PM

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it all depends on what your eyes can pick up on and what you did growing up

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:41 PM

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i have sat there and hard capped my fps in games between 60/90/120/144 and i can tell them apart, at least

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yeah, i guess i should say i played baseball and could see the spin on the laces as the ball came out of the pitcher's hands

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sooooo there's that

vague willow Nov 17, 2019, 9:41 PM

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I personally cant really see a huge difference

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:42 PM

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like 120/144 i can't tell much but

pulsar garnet Nov 17, 2019, 9:42 PM

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I can definitely see a difference between 60 and 120 or 60 and 144

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:42 PM

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60/90 is big

pulsar garnet Nov 17, 2019, 9:42 PM

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But not 120 144

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:42 PM

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but can you tell 75 and 120

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:42 PM

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yes

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:42 PM

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thats where its hard to tell

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i use a 240hz panel for work and its like whats the difference from 144

vague willow Nov 17, 2019, 9:43 PM

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The price

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Lmao

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:43 PM

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i mean work bought them so like i dont care

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:43 PM

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and the fact that the 240 probably has poopy colors cuz it's most likely a TN panel

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i think i just saw that AUO released a 240hz ips? panel, maybe it was VA, but it was a 240 and definitely not TN

pulsar garnet Nov 17, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Ew TN

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144Hz IPS über alles

little osprey Nov 17, 2019, 9:44 PM

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but is yours an acer x27 PogChamp

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need more gpu

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like double the GPU

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https://www.blurbusters.com/acers-upcoming-240hz-1ms-ips-monitor-apparently-revealed-acer-xv273x/ fwiw

Blur Busters

GrIdL0cK

Acer’s Upcoming 240Hz 1ms IPS Monitor Apparently Revealed: Acer ...

You don't hear '240Hz' and '1ms' and 'IPS' in the same sentence often. But they're coming! There's another 240 Hz 1ms IPS beast revealed -- this time by Acer. It's the Acer XV273X. One worth keeping an eye on.

latent bronze Nov 17, 2019, 9:44 PM

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At least use PLS

polar holly Nov 17, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Yeah like idk why we needed them i still use my personal one for the color accuracy and hdr support

fossil hedge Nov 18, 2019, 1:53 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/579494285523812352/645803627428052992/Screenshot_417.png my super duper engine

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deffnelty not a steam engine

stark spruce Nov 18, 2019, 2:00 AM

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That looks cool

fossil hedge Nov 18, 2019, 2:03 AM

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thank you

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its got about 200hp

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rpm of 2400 max

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and proububly about as safe as my guns pointed in the wrong derection

onyx galleon Nov 18, 2019, 4:04 AM

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looking for some reccomendations for some ram

little osprey Nov 18, 2019, 4:10 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820313712

onyx galleon Nov 18, 2019, 4:27 AM

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i have never heard of that company. new egg sent me here for ideas

lime forge Nov 18, 2019, 4:27 AM

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theyre a good brand

onyx galleon Nov 18, 2019, 4:28 AM

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i got 16gb ddr4 300mhz gskill ripjaws v right now. My game lags bad in BF5. Im thinking the ram is the issue

little osprey Nov 18, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Same memory as linked, just playing around with timer / uefi settings. D15 20C ambient. https://i.imgur.com/E32kbZs.png

Imgur

onyx galleon Nov 18, 2019, 4:31 AM

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idk any of that stuff

little osprey Nov 18, 2019, 4:32 AM

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What gpu/cpu?

little osprey Nov 18, 2019, 4:54 AM

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it's unlikely that 16gb of ram is what's causing the slowdown in the game

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as 16 is still usually enough

onyx galleon Nov 18, 2019, 5:08 AM

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sorry u still there?

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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X 3.5g

little osprey Nov 18, 2019, 5:15 AM

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and your video card?

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you're putting it in game mode or manually disabling cores?

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Thoughts on the xfx 5700xt thicc 3?

round flare Nov 18, 2019, 5:24 AM

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just get the red devil

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gamers nexus said the thicc wasn't very good

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:24 AM

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I like the slick clean design

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I know me too

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I mean I heard it wasn't good at cooling

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Maybe I'll just go for the 2070 super

round flare Nov 18, 2019, 5:25 AM

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your choice

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:26 AM

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Yeah I know, what about the 50th anniversary 5700xt? Single fan though.

round flare Nov 18, 2019, 5:26 AM

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idrk

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The only person I can think of that has a 5700xt is @pulsar garnet

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:27 AM

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Same lol. I'm trying to go for a clean build and I haven't really decided on a gpu yet

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I feel the Radeon vii is a bit expensive

round flare Nov 18, 2019, 5:28 AM

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hmm well you don't want blower correct

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the 7 is pretty expensive yeah

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:29 AM

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I'm not to good with the pc talk lmao what's a blower mean. I feel stupid asking that

round flare Nov 18, 2019, 5:29 AM

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No you're good lol

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:29 AM

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Lol

round flare Nov 18, 2019, 5:29 AM

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📎 image0.png

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this

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It's just a different type of cooling

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Ah ok

round flare Nov 18, 2019, 5:30 AM

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it's louder

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Noise doesn't bother me

round flare Nov 18, 2019, 5:30 AM

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the thicc 3 has mo reviews on newegg so I couldn't tell you

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:31 AM

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I was looking at the 50th anniversary and it's the same as that just gold and black

round flare Nov 18, 2019, 5:31 AM

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the sapphire nitro + has a similar design to the thicc 3

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if you wanna take a look at that

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but I gtg

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later

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:32 AM

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See ya, thanks for the help

pulsar garnet Nov 18, 2019, 5:38 AM

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@gaunt fiber anniversary gets loud

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i have a nitro+ 5700 XT and it's nice and quiet

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no issues playing anything at 1440p

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:38 AM

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That's fine. Noise doesn't really bother to much

pulsar garnet Nov 18, 2019, 5:39 AM

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personally i'd really suggest a sapphire card over blower

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:39 AM

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But yeah I figured with one fan it would get pretty noisy

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I'm just looking for a good clean slick you

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Gpu

little osprey Nov 18, 2019, 5:40 AM

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you probably don't want a blower card

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:40 AM

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Ive been looking at the 2070 super and Radeon 7 but the 7 is expensive

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No I wouldn't buy a blower card

pulsar garnet Nov 18, 2019, 5:41 AM

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nitro+ is a nice looking card imo

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if you set the RGB to off or solid it isn't flashy either

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:41 AM

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It's not bad I just looked at it a moment ago

little osprey Nov 18, 2019, 5:41 AM

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there's no reason to get a radeon 7 tbh for gaming

pulsar garnet Nov 18, 2019, 5:41 AM

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it's also got a great cooler

little osprey Nov 18, 2019, 5:41 AM

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unless it's cheap

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:41 AM

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Yeah that's what I was thinking @little osprey

pulsar garnet Nov 18, 2019, 5:41 AM

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R7 is outdated unless you need 16GB VRAM

little osprey Nov 18, 2019, 5:41 AM

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which is unlikely

pulsar garnet Nov 18, 2019, 5:41 AM

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5700 XT is better for gaming

little osprey Nov 18, 2019, 5:41 AM

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yep

pulsar garnet Nov 18, 2019, 5:42 AM

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R7 is more of a work station card

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like a cheap work station card

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:42 AM

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I figured with the 16gb vram

pulsar garnet Nov 18, 2019, 5:42 AM

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and unless you want RTX or like the look i'd suggest 5700 XT over 2070S

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but imo RTX isn't worth it unless you get at least a 2080

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:43 AM

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Okay good to know

pulsar garnet Nov 18, 2019, 5:43 AM

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too much of a performance hit with 2070 or below

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:44 AM

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When I start my build my CPU is going to be the ryzen 7 3800x.

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So I figured maybe the 2070 wouldn't be to bad for that.

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But I'll end up getting a 5700 more than likely

pulsar garnet Nov 18, 2019, 5:45 AM

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2070S and 5700 XT are about the same performance wise

little osprey Nov 18, 2019, 5:45 AM

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the 2070 and 5700xt are $100 different (2070s is ~25% more expensive than 5700xt) yet they perform within 5-10%

gaunt fiber Nov 18, 2019, 5:45 AM

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So the better buy would definitely be the xt

pulsar garnet Nov 18, 2019, 5:45 AM

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at 1440p 2070S only performs like 3% better average FPS than 5700 XT

little osprey Nov 18, 2019, 5:45 AM

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from a value point yeah