#building-and-recc-chat

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chilly marsh
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a friend of mine is building a pc by the end of the month, and she sent a pcpartpicker list, and her budget for the pc itself is around 2k, ill send you guys the link and you edit it what you think is the best for the budget

ripe ledge
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Ooooof 2k damn

round flare
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with that budget

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2080 is for sure possible

chilly marsh
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yeah i thought that too

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you guys can edit it

round flare
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and maybe you know

chilly marsh
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lmao

ripe ledge
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Well for one you don’t need 32gb of ram just for those parts

chilly marsh
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one of her friends sent the list

lime forge
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LOL

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i have 32gbs of ram

chilly marsh
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lmao yea

ripe ledge
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You don’t need it per se tho

latent bronze
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@ripe ledge There is one last one i would suggest for an air cooler that would fit in your system and has RGB

lime forge
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i was gonna have 64, but then i pulled a dum

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dumb*

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32gbs is overkill anyways

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so who cares

round flare
chilly marsh
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@round flare could you edit the parts to improve it im wayyy too lazy

ripe ledge
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Oh I didn’t realize you could buy those stock coolers on their own hell yeah @latent bronze thanks dude

latent bronze
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np

round flare
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I'm not smart enough to not go mad with rgb

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ill try

latent bronze
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i might pick one up as well for my system

chilly marsh
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aight emperor, let me know when you changed the list

ripe ledge
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Ya know for a 9700k you don’t need that expensive of a cooler

latent bronze
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and the Wraith Prism while using something like a 2600/3600 would handle overclocking without any problems

ripe ledge
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There’s much cheaper quo’s than 200

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*aio

chilly marsh
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whatever changes you think are right, d0 it and ill review it in a couple of minutes

latent bronze
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150$ for a wireless mouse?

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and it isn't even laser

ripe ledge
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Oof my internet waaay too laggy to do changes lol

chilly marsh
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yeah i didnt like the razer mouse

ripe ledge
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Just go cheaper on cooling, consider amd ryzen 7 instead of intel i7, and lower on ram

latent bronze
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my mouse is wired and has laser and it was only like 30$ lol

chilly marsh
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what ryzen cpu do you guys recommend for the 2k build

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and what aio cooler would you recommend?

latent bronze
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depends what you are doing with your system

chilly marsh
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she gonna be streaming and gaming

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she said she most likely will get another monitor

latent bronze
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master liquid is a very good AIO for the price and streaming could go with a 3600X or 3700X

chilly marsh
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send a specific one im not familiar with aios plez

chilly marsh
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also what mb you recommend for a 3700X?

latent bronze
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But that is me so

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and also ASRock is always a great company

chilly marsh
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is the Cooler Master MasterLiquid Lite 240 ok?

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no rgb?

latent bronze
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the one i linked is RGB

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it is just not addressable RGB

chilly marsh
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no no i meant is the lite 240 an ok choice instead of the rgb version

latent bronze
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I can only confirm from video reviews i have watched where they have mentioned that it is a very good AIO

chilly marsh
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aight

latent bronze
chilly marsh
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bec pcpartpicker dont have the rgb so i just picked the nonrgb version

round flare
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removed peripherals

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those are choice imo

chilly marsh
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got it

round flare
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List isn't the best probably

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but I'd say it's better than the first

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and I stayed under enough to leave space for some other stuff

chilly marsh
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emperor that is such a better build my god

latent bronze
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for a 3700X i would still go for an AIO

round flare
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I'd say aio's are more for the looks

chilly marsh
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we can upgrade the psu to an 850 righ T ?

round flare
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but what do I know

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Probably

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I'd say 100 over estimate is the recommended

latent bronze
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850w is more than enough

round flare
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more doesn't hurt

chilly marsh
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aight

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ill change that, then let her decide the peripherals

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wait 512 gb for the nvme wont be enough

round flare
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I went really over the estimated wattage

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You want morev

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?

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Ok

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gimme a min

chilly marsh
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should i just go with a 1tb nvme?

round flare
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I'll make some adjustments

latent bronze
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Just slap in a 2tb HDD

chilly marsh
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she has a couple of games that will need to l0ad faster and she look like she has enough to fill up a 1tb anyways

latent bronze
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Also as a tech tuber by the name Tech Yes has mentioned for gaming you wont notice any difference between a 2.5" and a NVMe SSD

chilly marsh
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yeah its barely noticeable

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it will also be her first time building a pc so wish her luck

latent bronze
chilly marsh
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thats cool

round flare
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the psu is more than enough

latent bronze
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So you would mainly fuse a SSD and a HDD together into one and when you would load up a game the cache for that would go on the SSD

round flare
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850w really increases the price

chilly marsh
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aight

round flare
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and there's way less brands I recognize at a reasonable price

chilly marsh
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ill send it to her

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thanks @round flare

round flare
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ye

chilly marsh
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my favorite dino guy thing lol

round flare
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this also does bring the cost to the ceiling of the budget tho

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idk if this person has a separate budget for monitor/periphs

latent bronze
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He is an alien which you get to kill in Destiny 2

round flare
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yes

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But not the real

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thing

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just a robot

chilly marsh
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the budget 2k includes peripherals

round flare
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o

chilly marsh
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im sure she can save another stash of cash for another monitor

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ikr

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should we lower the ram?

round flare
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well the kraken aio is kinda overkill

chilly marsh
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looks like it

round flare
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maybe?

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lemme see

latent bronze
chilly marsh
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she most likely wants an actual mechanical keyboard with a decent mouse

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only reason she in this situation cause she moved and she only rented the pc

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only thing that was truly hers was the monitor

latent bronze
round flare
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120 for peripherals

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could get you a decent mech keyboard and a good mouse

chilly marsh
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looks good @round flare thanks again

round flare
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Could get even more to spend

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if I change the case

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but that cas

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e

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it's so beautiful

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I need someone to have it

latent bronze
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Does she want solid RGB or addressable RGB

chilly marsh
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for the case she really likes the H710i NZXT

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i dont think she would really care too much about solid or addressable

latent bronze
round flare
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with the H710 price drops a little but no rgb goodness PepeHands

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O the h710i

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o

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that's more expensive than the H510 elite

latent bronze
round flare
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moar money

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can't get that them epic peripherals

chilly marsh
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she said she likes it, but she wouldnt mind if it was a cheaper case

latent bronze
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I have a case suggestion then

round flare
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I usually pick parts with good reviews

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so idk

chilly marsh
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the case can be under 130

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so anything under is totally fine

round flare
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It's 100

chilly marsh
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aight

round flare
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It leaves a lot of money for peripherals

chilly marsh
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lets do this list then

round flare
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about 160

latent bronze
chilly marsh
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gosh my brain is tired

round flare
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O didn't check newegg

chilly marsh
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one more thing sadly

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ikr yes but this last one i promise

latent bronze
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i trust newegg reviews a lot more than amazon

chilly marsh
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so uh, do you or ecks have some more time to make a list for a 800 pc build?

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if not thats understandable you guys helped a lot today

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thanks

latent bronze
round flare
chilly marsh
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cant he get a 1660 super now?

round flare
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ecks wins by far I'd say lol

chilly marsh
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ye

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its just the build

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no peripherals rn

round flare
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Oh

latent bronze
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Don't you mean she?

chilly marsh
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its another person that asked

latent bronze
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oh

chilly marsh
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for the 800 i mean

round flare
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you could do 2700x

latent bronze
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Well can go for the super but pcpp doesn't have the supers on the list

round flare
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easily I think

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I mean

chilly marsh
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ill just tell him to get 1660 super

round flare
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it really depends on their use

latent bronze
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and i am using the 2600 as well

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So you can see roughly the performance of the system

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the super would be about 10% more performance

chilly marsh
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i have the X

latent bronze
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stock clocks the X version is better but overclocked we would be equal

deep skiff
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and ignore the psu rn

round flare
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that psu makes me uncomfortable

chilly marsh
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^

deep skiff
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what’s wrong with the psu

round flare
lime forge
deep skiff
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Zack we want a psu not a fire hazard

lime forge
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all psus are fire hazards given enough time in the microwave

deep skiff
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that’s like the worst choice of pc hardware I’d trust intel with

chilly marsh
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ikr

round flare
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according to the review on the inwin psu it whines

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a lot

chilly marsh
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i never even know intel made psus until today

round flare
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but that could be bad luck so

lime forge
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remember when intel made motherboards? me neither im too young

latent bronze
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zack it is a school night go to sleep lol

deep skiff
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^

chilly marsh
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^

latent bronze
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They still make motherboards...... for their NUC's

lime forge
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...

chilly marsh
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oo zack is a mod now i didnt even notice

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congrats

lime forge
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thanks! clubpenguin_dance

latent bronze
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He has been a mod for like a month now

chilly marsh
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i just noticed now

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he was a trainee FOR THE LONGEST TIME

astral hatch
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I’m getting frustrated with my new/first build. I can’t get my case fans to work and my monitor looks like dirt.

fossil hedge
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well

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sorry,

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need any help?

grand ridge
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@astral hatch your resolution is going to be awful at first, but once you’ve updated your drivers on whatever GPU you have you should be able to fix it

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Also, are the case fans just pnp ?

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Or using a controller ?

earnest stump
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Is anyone active?

gaunt zinc
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DeadChat ?

earnest stump
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Customer support sent me here

gaunt zinc
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Ah! Looking for tech advice?

earnest stump
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I am new to building a pc and found a mother board that will fit the idea of my pc

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I just am curious if there is a newer model

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Or if there is a better one to fit my scheme

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I am ordering a white case with standard glass panel and a liquid cooler that is white with blue lgb

gaunt zinc
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<@&525119001324683264> assemble! Share with us your tech knowledge.

timid acorn
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System Unit needs to have the lowest possible sound coming from it.
what should i do
or what should o buy
i

earnest stump
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@gaunt zinc do you know of any new models of the arctic i shared?

little osprey
versed pewter
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What cpu do you want?

timid acorn
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doesnt matter

versed pewter
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@earnest stump

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If you want lowest sounds you should go with liquid cooling

twilit escarp
earnest stump
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The motherboard i attached supports my cpu arleady

versed pewter
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What is the model cpu?

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It's not about the motherboard you selected. There is literally a specific type of motherboard that best fits each cpu

earnest stump
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Intel Core i7-6700K 4 GHz Quad-Core Processor

versed pewter
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Thanks.

twilit escarp
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Is this good boys 1070 with a pre installed arctic cooler

timid acorn
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A client has requested for me to build them a computer. They would like a computer that has all the bells and whistles. They stated, “Money is not a concern”. They would like this PC to be the first thing that you see when you enter their living room. Their requirements are below:

System Unit needs to have lights.
System Unit needs to have the lowest possible sound coming from it.
High-end Graphics Cards
Minimum (4) 80” 4k Displays

versed pewter
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Liquid cool everything

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All in ones work too

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Less build time that way and they're normally 0 maintenance

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1070's are kindof old

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They work

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Just current games will give them a run

twilit escarp
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I’m using it for ark survival evolve

versed pewter
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At high quality

twilit escarp
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Evolved

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Medium

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Medium to low

timid acorn
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what about the graphic card?

versed pewter
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I don't see why ark would give it issues

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Buy an all in one cooler for the graphics card too

twilit escarp
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And maybe even some rust at some points I make ark content on YouTube

versed pewter
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They make ones for each model

twilit escarp
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Going for a regular Xbox one s to a core i5 9400f and a gtx1070 so hopefully it’s. A step up 😤😂

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From

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B365m pro 4 motherboard

chilly marsh
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people dont recommend getting i5 cpus in 2019

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amd has better deals and more performance

timid acorn
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so im being ignored ? damn ok

chilly marsh
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dasia the client wants 4k monitors?

timid acorn
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yes

twilit escarp
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Yah I understand just had a budget you feel

chilly marsh
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then he'd need some rtx 2080 supers or something like that

timid acorn
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thank you

twilit escarp
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I’m getting a rtx 2080 super for Christmas and a better motherboard / processor

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I love being apart of this discord

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It’s actually so helpful

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And everyone is nice lmaoo

earnest stump
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Are they better than the one i sent?

versed pewter
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Yes

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Chipset is newer and it supports newer CPU's

earnest stump
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Could i upgrade to i9 eventually?

versed pewter
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Yes

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If it supports that socket

warm nova
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@earnest stump I think the newest board I have seen for a white build would either be an msi b360 or nzxt z370

versed pewter
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I'm an Asus fan due to quality issues

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I don't mind gigabyte though

versed pewter
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Asus has been more stable for me when gaming

earnest stump
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Would it support this?

warm nova
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gigabyte doesnt do white pcb's. They do have white gpu's though, up to the 2070

earnest stump
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I'm honestly so bad at this...

versed pewter
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That's a universal install CPU cooler. It should work

earnest stump
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My computer fried and i need to buy a new mother board so i figured i will just build a new one

warm nova
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asus has several with the white plastic accents

versed pewter
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Yeah. I sent him 3 with white and black

warm nova
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that prime z390 a might be the best one if you want white.

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unless you want to spend $1000 and an x570 board from msi

versed pewter
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It's pretty nice

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Lol

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$1000 for a motherboard better include the cpu or allow me to upgrade parts of the chipset

earnest stump
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The z390 is the one i was leaning towards

versed pewter
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I like the white dots all over the board

warm nova
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the nzxt N7 is white and it looks good, but its awful expensive if you can even find one anywhere

earnest stump
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It says it only supports 8 and 9

warm nova
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it may only be available from nzxt directly

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z390 boards only support 8th and 9th gen

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did you already have a cpu you wanted to use

earnest stump
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Yea

austere condor
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if you're looking for a white motherboard for a 6700k, i would highly recommend not spending $200 on a H270.

  1. that is an insanely inflated price
  2. you have a 6700k, an unlocked processor, and that board is not a Z series board, so you wont be able to overclock your processor
warm nova
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if its 7th gen you will have to get a z270 board. Intel didnt support 6th or 7th gen after z270

earnest stump
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So should j just upgrade cpu?

austere condor
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the 6700k is still a great processor, but, its 4 generations old now. just gaming? not much of a big reason to upgrade, but, up to you if you want to spend money on buying a new system

earnest stump
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I am very new at pcs

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How much is the newest cpu?

austere condor
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for the best gaming processor right now, the 9700k, is $360

deep skiff
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200-530

earnest stump
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What about 9900?

warm nova
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the 9900k is $480,

austere condor
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R5 3600 - $200
9700k - $360
9900k - $480

deep skiff
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how much is the locked one? Haven’t heard a lot of pricing since more people get the 9900k

earnest stump
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That's not too bad of a hit if i wont have to upgrade for a couple years.

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What is the difference between the 97 and 99

austere condor
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the 9700k is an overclockable 8 core CPU
the 9900k is an overclockable 8 core CPU with hyperthreading

sullen spoke
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9>7

austere condor
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unless you're doing content creation, video editing, CPU bound work, the 9700k is generally the better option

warm nova
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8 cores 8 threads vs 8 core 16 thread. 9900k has higher boost clocks. 9900k is also a beast that requires good cooling.

earnest stump
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Itechghost that is honestly the only thing i knew lmao

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I take it my 150 dollar water cooler wont do much

astral hatch
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@grand ridge yeah I need to do that and I found out they’re temperature controlled so I’m gonna get new ones

austere condor
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9>7 is like saying, a semi truck is more powerful than a Ferrari

it depends on your use case and what you need from your computer

earnest stump
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I just play games

sullen spoke
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LOL

earnest stump
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I burnt mine playing rlcraft with my brother

round flare
earnest stump
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Like caught fire

round flare
austere condor
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you wont see any difference in performance between a 9900k and 9700k for playing games

earnest stump
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So 9700 it is

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What does the difference between 65 watt and 90 watt affect?

austere condor
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so, what are you trying to do with this PC? sticking with an all white theme? what is your budget?

earnest stump
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Yes white theme with light blue

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Budget roughly 1400

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I have a graphics card, for now...

austere condor
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what graphics card do you have?

earnest stump
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Asus GeForce GTX 980 4 GB STRIX Video Card

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Definitely need an upgrade within the year but i need something to put on my desk for now

high oak
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You can always get a 1050 to for cheap for the time being

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I picked one up for a low level gaming PC for resell from China for 53

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There's always manufactured Refurbished

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Or refurbish it yourself. But a can of contact cleaner from Walmart and clean s used one you buy. That's Refurbished

latent bronze
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980 will last you for another 2-3 years at most

austere condor
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buying a GTX 1050 makes 0 sense to replace a GTX 980

latent bronze
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also depending on the game as well

high oak
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1080 ti

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I thought 980 came before 1050 and so on

grand ridge
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If you want to get a budget card go for an RX470-580

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Or a 1060

latent bronze
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980 is like a 1060

austere condor
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GTX 980 is on par with a GTX 1660/GTX 1060

high oak
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Gotcha

austere condor
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the GTX 980 is a powerful GPU, no need to replace it with a budget newer card

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lol

lime forge
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i wouldnt buy a 1060 new right now

high oak
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Anything over 1080 is Overkill

lime forge
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lol...

latent bronze
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oneway you're joking right?

high oak
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Won't do anything for you until graphics change

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Well...

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That's what I think

lime forge
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depends on your use

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some people stream

austere condor
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one way, im not sure you understand what you're talking about

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lol

lime forge
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some people wanna push frames for a 240hz monitor

latent bronze
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for once i agree with Demon

lime forge
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...

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no bullying clubpenguin_dance

high oak
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You can buy all the high end stuff but 1080 good processor and 32 gb will do anything

earnest stump
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I dont need a graphics card yet

latent bronze
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What bullying?

lime forge
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i put the club penguin emoji indicating that it was a joke

grand ridge
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I want to get a founders edition card

latent bronze
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I want to see Karen's manager

lime forge
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hes not here right now.

grand ridge
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I really like the look of the 1060/70 FE

lime forge
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wait

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I AM THE MANAGER

latent bronze
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Mike is your manager

round flare
austere condor
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@earnest stump well, with $1400 to spend, you can get a new, much more powerful GPU if you'd like, and still stick to your white theme of a PC, or i can remove the GPU, and pick out parts that are more expensive than they really need to be for their performance they give, but will really help stick ot a more all white build

lime forge
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am i not also a managr

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manager*

high oak
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Ryzen 7 3600x, 1080 to, 32 gb G. Skill Rip Jaws

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Good!

latent bronze
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White theme i would suggest the case i am using lol

austere condor
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3600x is really dumb, they dont make the 1080 anymore, and for gmaing, 32GB is a waste of money

round flare
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oh wait I saw the wrong thing

high oak
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And 16 if all you need for now

lime forge
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mmmmmm

high oak
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1080 ti

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Ti

lime forge
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2060/5700xt/2070s/2080

latent bronze
high oak
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Where you from

lime forge
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i would choose any of those

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that i listed

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sorry 2060s*

round flare
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No

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Go with the rx560 FeelsNeatMan

high oak
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1060 or 1070 will work

latent bronze
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meet in the middle with the 1660S then

high oak
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2060 is actually pretty darn good.

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All you need for today's games

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3XX range

latent bronze
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Never go for the non super

lime forge
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anyways

high oak
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Aorus

lime forge
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all you need for modern day games is an rx570

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need

high oak
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👌

lime forge
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wants is when you get into higher power gpus

round flare
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he's not wrong

lime forge
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hell, my 1050ti was fine

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definitely not good

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but usable

latent bronze
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But a 570 is not even an upgrade from a 980

high oak
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I'm always into a higher power. That's what GPU anonymous is all about. :)

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Lol

lime forge
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all i said is an rx570 is all you need to run modern games

high oak
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I'll check it out. Thx

lime forge
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oh, its probably not what you want if you were going for a 1080ti

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you should get a 2070 super

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or 2060 super

high oak
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I can't afford a 1080

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I'm still using an xfx 7800 I think

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But I want to build a decent gaming PC for resell on eBay that's affordable for the buyer and makes me s little cash

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My friend scored a used 1080 to for a little over 300. Contact cleaner and it's like new

latent bronze
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You would be better off reselling on facebook market place since most people would look for parts than a system on ebay

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I also paid 40$ for a used RX 460 which is still decent for most esports titles

pulsar garnet
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Who ping

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:(

fossil hedge
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@latent bronzeGamer very cool case

tropic estuary
fluid raven
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Why 2 SSDS, why not a 3tb hdd for all the other crap

tropic estuary
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Not sure lelel

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Might switch the 1tb of ssd with a 2tb hdd but everything else is most likely staying

fluid raven
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Yeah thatll be pretty decent

tropic estuary
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Yea probably will just get a samsung 970 evo 500gb instead of both of those ssds. Already have an extra 1tb hdd laying around i could use for extra games

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build will barely be above 800 dollsrs after taxes, but will probably add more stuff later on

deep skiff
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I’d get a sabrent rocket, 970 evo is like twice the price and any nvme is still plenty fast

tropic estuary
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Can you link?

vivid atlas
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Could someone build me a whole 800 bucks budget setup ? (Including 144hz monitor if it’s possible) I’m completely new at pc gaming and it would be my first pc too.

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Thanks in advance

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@ me 🙂

tropic estuary
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Will you only be playing games on it? @vivid atlas

vivid atlas
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Ye just games like rainbow six siege and overWatch @tropic estuary

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But mainly rainbow

chilly marsh
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what rank are you

vivid atlas
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I’m just starting the game, bronze currently 🙂

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I like the game a lot though

fossil hedge
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F₃U

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(my new favorite composite)

fluid raven
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only concern is that it doesn't have a lot of reviews but if it's new-

vast pollen
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I’m looking to start a new build and I have never done this before. Can someone msg me and help me out with this build? I’m trying to get things together so I know what to get and how much.

deep skiff
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what budget and what will you use it for

latent bronze
#

@vast pollen How much money are you willing to spend and for what you plan on using it for?

vast pollen
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Going to be gaming for the most part. Money I’m not sure on yet. I know I don’t want to go to high to start with. I want to at least be able to play today’s games but it doesn’t have to but ultra high graphics.

latent bronze
#

Well what are the games i would need to know cause todays games can be demanding and some others wont

vast pollen
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I play a lot of mmo and military fighting games. Not into a whole lot of sports games. I’ll try the link out thank you

latent bronze
#

Most games with that setup you will be able to play on high settings 1080p without any problems

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One thing i do suggest is buying at least 1 to 3 more fans to have better airflow cause the fans included wouldn't really be enough

vast pollen
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Ok

little osprey
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Which military fighting games

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Total war? Hearts of iron? Or stuff like warthunder, wows, wot, etc

vast pollen
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Fps

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Mostly

latent bronze
#

So CoD/BF

vast pollen
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Yes

latent bronze
#

Would be fine then with that

little osprey
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errrr

latent bronze
#

@little osprey He isn't look for something expensive and something not to play on ultra so that would be the right system and besides if he was ever planning on upgrading in the future he would have no problems with a B450 board

little osprey
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Is thiat a nice b450 board? Does it have flashback capability?

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Not tryna wall text, but the 2600x is like $110, a 2500k is $30 lol , there's 3200c16 Rev.E for $65 on sale rn, 570 new is like losing a bet to get a bad tattoo value, $83 and no nvme? Unsure about psu - I'll look it up

latent bronze
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It does not have flashback but because it is also a 1600 he wouldn't need flashback for updating the bios

little osprey
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Have you had the enjoyment of early x570 / zen2 / zenx anything as of late with bios updates?

latent bronze
#

I have a B450M right now which i have updated my bios without any issues but i also tend to wait like a week after a new bios would come out to see if anyone is coming across any issues before i would update mine

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Besides that for an actual upgrade he would have to wait for the 4000 series

little osprey
#

I was just gonna say if you're going as low as 1600 - b450 (m) gaming plus is ok - assuming you might want a 3700x? maybe on sale for say 150?

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Tomahawk has a nicer cooler - there's one other I'm forgetting, gonna feel real dumb if it's the one yo ulinked lol

latent bronze
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and i bought one for my cousin's system

little osprey
#

Nice, $50 is hard tobeat

latent bronze
#

yep and it is a nice 4 core 8 thread CPU

little osprey
#

TBH I think going 3200G + used 570 these days isn't that dumb assuming you know you'll upgrade cpu, likely cpu/mobo/ram soon or something

latent bronze
#

my cousin's system was struggling a little with Apex using a R3 1200 so the extra threads helped out

little osprey
#

Some people enjoy the parts trading / deal hunting / upgrading game more than others

latent bronze
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his 1200 i might build a tiny retro like arcade system

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Bought a GTX 750 1gb for like 15$ the other day and it is working pretty good

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Over all i would use the 1200 with the GTX 750 and a 500gb hybrid drive of course using a A320 board build the arcade machine frame slap on it 2 200mm fans and for the OS i would use Linux and have it auto boot on RetroPie

little osprey
#

hybrid drive haha I'm out

latent bronze
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If using for an arcade machine you don't need an SSD

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would be pointless since everything would load up the same way

sudden turret
#

nothing wrong with hybrids.

latent bronze
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Well i know there is nothing wrong with them

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some people find them to be useless but it depends on what you're using it for anyways

austere condor
#

now adays they are kind of useless except in specific circumstances.

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SSD's being so cheap now, its kind of silly to NOT buy one for a desktop PC

deep skiff
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unless it’s like a $400 pc or super low budget

austere condor
#

a hybrid drive is for the rare chance you can only fit 1 drive of any type, and you need a lot of storage, but cant afford a 1-2TB SSD. hybrid will still be faster than a normal HDD, but have the capacity of a normal HDD

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120GB SSD is like $17 @deep skiff

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that is more than affordable for ANY desktop PC

deep skiff
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yeah but that’s like only good for a boot drive

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MW is bigger than that

austere condor
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a hybrid drive is normally more expensive than buying a 120 SSD and a 1TB HDD

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and a 1TB hybrid doesnt have 120 of SSD space on it

deep skiff
#

oh I was just talking about SSD’s in general

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not hybrids idk much about them

austere condor
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they are normally 16-32GB

deep skiff
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so like a boot drive

little osprey
#

True, use case always matters. I actually lost a doorstop lately, sadly, all I have are 3.5" SAS HDDs, a few 2.5" sata and buches of these dinky m.2 things, nuts
A nice 1TB Fusion drive circa 2015 imac would really tie the room together

austere condor
#

hybrid drives make sense mostly for laptops

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1 drive bay, and you need a lot of storage, but cant drop the money for a 1-2TB SSD

deep skiff
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ThinkingFishy how much is a 1tb hybrid

little osprey
#

I could see that being the best upgrade path a few years ago, or maybe narrow use cases these days due to laptop expansion slot availibility - but..

austere condor
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ones with 8GB ssd's for cache are $60

deep skiff
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hmm

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so like $15 for the ssd part

little osprey
#

These days you can just usb 3.2 gen 2 type c connector to your mega storage array at will, or just throw a second m.2 nvme drive in the laptop's second m.2 (if available) slot

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Samsung T5's are pretty nice, sata speed, but can't imagine the rush

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I would just push periodic backups over wifi - which is also silly fast in 2019 - from laptop to NAS as a set it and forget it approach

austere condor
#

if you have the space for 2 drives, SSD/HDD is always going to be better

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than buying a single hybrid drive

deep skiff
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eww 5.4k

austere condor
#

thats what all the hybrid drives are

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lol

deep skiff
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i told u idk much about them

austere condor
#

like i said, they have their usecase, but it is very situational, 99% of the time you're better off getting a SSD and a HDD

latent bronze
#

@austere condor I was talking for a Linux arcade build which a hybrid is more than enough and would be pointless for a SSD

little osprey
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5400k rpm isn't inherently bad

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I have no idea why a hybrid would fit an arcade haha - why not a $20 ssd?

latent bronze
#

You're loading arcade roms which you wont see any difference between a 7200 RPM hard drive, Hybrid and SSD but the reason for it being hybrid is so the OS would start up pretty fast also a 20$ SSD is like 120gb which is too little

fluid raven
#

what about optane

little osprey
#

$500~ for a 480GB 905p u.2 drive. The 280 GB AIC 900p can be found on ebay for $<200 used

little osprey
#

trying to build my own desktop. Gonna be playing first-person-shooters, mobas, RPGs, etc, along with hosting servers for modded games. I prefer AMD hardware

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max price $2700

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any hints?

lime forge
#

ooh

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thats a large budget

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lemme see what i can do

little osprey
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I make a lot

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it's not gonna be right this second of course, but looking to see what to budget for.

lime forge
#

@little osprey do you care about looks?

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because i can make it look great

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lol

little osprey
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RGB would be appreciated

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the room it's going in has no lights installed(😒stupid apartments)

lime forge
#

D:

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yeah, rgb should light it up

little osprey
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i already have a mouse and headphones btw, but no keyboard

lime forge
#

oh

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you need to include the monitor and keyboard in the price?

little osprey
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don't need no monitor, 75" tv

lime forge
#

alright, cool

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just keyboard then?

little osprey
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yep

deep skiff
#

oh boy zack picking out keyboards wuuut

latent bronze
#

Who would actually put a 75" TV in a PC build?

little osprey
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lol

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I already have it so...

deep skiff
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@latent bronze only the most hardcore GAMERS

lime forge
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yeah tbh im not too good at keyboards

little osprey
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and it cost me $100

lime forge
#

might wanna let nuclear tell you what keyboard to get lol

little osprey
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idc about the keyboard, as long as it works

lime forge
#

i like my razer ornata chroma, but i know a lot of other people love their anne pro 2s

deep skiff
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idk much about full sized

lime forge
#

RAZER ORNATA CHROMA anime_adhd

deep skiff
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doest that have those trash keys

lime forge
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im tying on one right now

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and i love it

deep skiff
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ew yeah its a mecha membrane

little osprey
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lol a keyboard is a keyboard

latent bronze
#

Overall if you want a system that is all AMD would be a Ryzen 9 with a 5700 XT

deep skiff
#

eyeshake why do you spend $100 on a MEMBRANE KEYBOARD

lime forge
#

R G B

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FULL SIZE

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WRIST REST

deep skiff
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like mine is $130 with custom keycaps and actually good switches

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and its hotswappable

latent bronze
#

my 30$ keyboard is full size RGB and has a wrist rest lol

little osprey
#

.... that's what controllers and mice with 20 programmable buttons are for?

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oh and those 20 can be double programmed so you can technically use 39 keys on the mouse

latent bronze
#

lol

lime forge
#

i dont recommend buying that

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personally i dont wanna buy from marketplace sellers

deep skiff
#

Black
Gaming
Mechanical Keyboard
very specific

little osprey
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but yeah, that mouse is why I don't really care for a keyboard, y'all could hook me up with a $5 keyboard and I'll be fine

lime forge
#

if you can find it sold and shipped by thermaltake or newegg, go ahead

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lol..

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best bang for your buck

little osprey
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lol

lime forge
#

ive used that keyboard, and tbh i really like it

little osprey
#

I played destiny 2 on my laptop before it died with just that mouse, no keyboard

lime forge
#

alright

little osprey
#

I've played smite, Warframe, borderlands series

lime forge
#

i got the list done

true raptor
#

Any good games on pc that are like under $40?

lime forge
#

yes

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a lot actually

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hmmm lemme go see which ones i recommend

true raptor
#

And is rust a good game cause it looks pretty fun

latent bronze
#

Why Asus?

little osprey
#

?

lime forge
#

why you askin?

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lol

latent bronze
#

If going AMD best to stick with PowerColor or Sapphire

lime forge
#

strix cards have rgb and asus is a great brand clubpenguin_dance

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moving on

little osprey
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lol

lime forge
#

@little osprey my idea with that build is that you would take the fans from the aio, swap them out for the rgb fans, and use the left over fans for extra case airflow

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2tb should be more than enough storage to start with, and if you need more, you can add more later

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that processor is like one of the best amd processors on the market right now

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that graphics card will run any game at ultra settings

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and some extra things on the list are just for the prettiness factor.

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lol

latent bronze
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Karen you're funny tonight

lime forge
#

ok

#

well

#

if you have a good list, then send it

deep skiff
lime forge
#

because i dont see any lists from you

#

that ram... yikes

latent bronze
#

@deep skiff i believe he wants all AMD

little osprey
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lol Im used to 16

deep skiff
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@lime forge its fine ram

lime forge
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i know lol

little osprey
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my laptop was 16 gb 2400 ram

deep skiff
#

@latent bronze zack's had a 2080S

lime forge
#

games are moving towards 32gbs recommended...

deep skiff
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like 3 of them

little osprey
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lol

lime forge
#

yeah, but keep in mind, futureproofing

deep skiff
#

and you can just buy more ram for like $40 later

tidal bluff
#

UMMMM NO THERE NOT LOL

little osprey
#

the desktop I was looking at had 3 tb

tidal bluff
#

you can still play games at 8gb

lime forge
#

well sure

little osprey
#

not many tho

lime forge
#

but some new games are recommending 32

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so this is the start of 32 being recommending

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recommended*

tidal bluff
#

just depends on resolution and hdr which uses alot of ram to process

#

what game?

lime forge
#

jedi fallen order

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wait hold on

latent bronze
#

Ok that is like one game and most games still coming out are still recommending 16gb

tidal bluff
#

recommended is 16gb dude

lime forge
#

he has $2700 wtf 32gb is not unreasonable

round flare
deep skiff
#

yeah but $180 for it is

little osprey
#

and it's better to have too much, then not enough

tidal bluff
deep skiff
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not all the time, you could be overspending on stuff you don't need

lime forge
#

ugggg

deep skiff
#

:l

tidal bluff
#

32 gb is a waste unless hes doing video editing

deep skiff
#

^

lime forge
#

EA recommended 32gb but then after people started complaining the brought it down to 16

little osprey
#

I am thinking of streaming

deep skiff
#

yeah cause it was unreasonable @lime forge

tidal bluff
#

how does ea recommend 32 when thats the specs i just posted?

round flare
#

if we're talking about overspending just get him a gold royal kit FeelsNeatMan

lime forge
#

istg

little osprey
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lol

latent bronze
#

EA recommends a lot of things which isn't needed

lime forge
little osprey
#

ea sucks so......

round flare
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bruh with 2700 just let the man get 32 gb

deep skiff
#

and ea probably doesnt know a lot about their hardware either

lime forge
#

aight bro imma head out

round flare
lime forge
#

'ea is a bad company therefore games are not moving towards recommending 32gb of ram'

tidal bluff
#

i bet ill run it at max settings 1440p with no huccups

latent bronze
#

I recall EA recommending the i5 6400 or 6600 for Battlefield 1 and most people i have known was able to play it high settings with a G4400

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EA is a company that will make you spend more money on your computer when you don't need the parts just to "play their games better"

little osprey
#

isn't that for "optimum performance"

tidal bluff
#

there isnt 1 game i cant play at max 1440p and all i have is a ryzen 7 1700, ddr4 3200mhz ram 16gb and a gtx 1070 sc evga

latent bronze
#

Games will move onwards towards 32gb memory recommended but just not now cause look at everything coming out

tidal bluff
#

i even play ghost recon breakpoint and its brand new at max

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60 frames easy

deep skiff
#

@lime forge companies also say you need like a 750w psu for a 2080 ti+ 9900k but you can run a 2080 ti + 9900k at 5ghz with a 600w

lime forge
#

thats really cool 🙂

tidal bluff
#

it just depends on how many extra things u have running on power also they all add to the drain

round flare
#

Why is there a debate about ram

#

literally has over 2.5k to spend

lime forge
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

deep skiff
#

because zack can’t manage budgets well

latent bronze
#

^

lime forge
#

thanksssss

deep skiff
#

THAT RAM WASNT EVEN B DIE

tidal bluff
#

if i had a 2.5k budget and ppl gave me a setup that was cheaper id be happy to not waste money lol

lime forge
#

last i checked the build i put was about $2400

little osprey
#

also keep in mind, I may buy this months down the road when prices might be a bit cheaper

lime forge
#

so i was well within budget

deep skiff
#

2.5k

little osprey
#

especially with all this new tech coming out soon

lime forge
#

and yours was $7 overbudget 🙂

deep skiff
#

and mine had a 2080 ti + 3950x

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if you put a 3900x in it’d be under

lime forge
#

alright well to be fair i put a bit more emphasis on it looking good

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part of what was wanted

deep skiff
#

which isn’t important compared to performance :l

round flare
#

RGB IS PERFORMANCE

little osprey
#

well if it's under, I can always change for better

deep skiff
#

and the 3950x is supposed to tie the 9900k in games

lime forge
#

ok

#

well

#

your build did not have a 3950x

#

it had a 3900x

#

oh wait

#

did you change the price

round flare
deep skiff
#

at 750 :l

lime forge
#

oops

#

didnt see that

deep skiff
#

i wonder about you sometimes

pulsar garnet
#

lol

lime forge
#

jesus christ

#

im outta here

#

byeeee

deep skiff
#

fear my pc building skill

little osprey
#

lol

pulsar garnet
#

this is cool

round flare
#

That's it

#

I'm running my athlon with a 2080ti

pulsar garnet
#

xD

lime forge
#

LOOK WHOS BACK

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:D

little osprey
#

that was quick

lime forge
#

yeah

#

i got excited

#

32gb of ram, 3950x, and a 2080ti

pulsar garnet
#

is that PC for you or

lime forge
#

its for so true

little osprey
#

... $2828.25

lime forge
#

for me it shows as less

pulsar garnet
#

@little osprey do you need the 16 cores?

lime forge
#

might have something to do with store preferences

round flare
#

It shows 2828 for me

#

ye

lime forge
#

hm

little osprey
#

maybe, idk

lime forge
#

i wonder why

pulsar garnet
#

because if not i'd suggest 3700X

lime forge
#

^

little osprey
#

I'm used to playing on an i3-8 and I'm tired of it

lime forge
#

better for gaming

round flare
#

Threadripper 3

pulsar garnet
#

way better value

#

tiny tiny performance difference

round flare
#

They should be cheap seeing they just came out omegalul

latent bronze
#

@little osprey are you only gaming or are you doing a lot more?

little osprey
#

gaming, hosting online servers, and streaming

pulsar garnet
#

3700X would be enough for that

lime forge
#

those lists were using your full budget

#

you can get a pc capable of doing all that of a lot less

little osprey
#

but I'm used to an Intel i3-8, Intel 620, and 16gb ram

lime forge
#

trust me, this will be a HUGE upgrade

little osprey
#

so....

deep skiff
lime forge
#

lack of rgb D:

pulsar garnet
#

3700X + 2080Ti > 3950X + 2080Ti unless you need the 8 extra cores

lime forge
#

also nuclear that ram is at lower speeds

pulsar garnet
#

well, they're about equal most likely

round flare
#

Bruh 3950x is hyper mega overkill

deep skiff
#

@lime forge that build wouldn’t even work

little osprey
#

I truthfully don't know Zov

lime forge
#

how

pulsar garnet
#

if you don't know then i'd bet you should just get a 3700X

deep skiff
#

@lime forge ram speed is >1% impact on a build

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the h510 only supports a 280 rad

lime forge
#

LOL WAIT

#

LMFAO

#

my bad

#

didnt see that

deep skiff
#

you made the single most important choice on a 2080 ti and failed also

lime forge
#

you didnt see it either 🙂

round flare
lime forge
deep skiff
lime forge
deep skiff
lime forge
#

imagine buying your computer parts from B&H photo

deep skiff
#

anyway you picked a non A chip and I’m disappointed in you

lime forge
#

i legit have no clue what that means

#

all i know is

#

thats a good pc

#

and will it even make a difference really?

deep skiff
#

ask @little osprey

#

yeah

#

They are the worst binned chips and can’t manually oc afaik

lime forge
#

well darn

deep skiff
#

don’t buy a new 2080 ti that msrp’s under 1200 is usually the general rule

lime forge
#

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i have a $1800 build and 32gb of ram clubpenguin_dance

chilly marsh
#

rly?

deep skiff
#

:l

lime forge
#

2080ti is super powerful anyways

deep skiff
#

my $900 build can have 32gb of ram too

lime forge
#

well sure

little osprey
#

I'd probably do with a 2070 super

lime forge
#

thats just proving further that it makes more sense for him to have 32 gb of ram

chilly marsh
#

ofc, but thats a waste to get 32gb

deep skiff
#

what if I’m doing blender or sumthing for a job

little osprey
#

especially if Im streaming

lime forge
#

^

little osprey
#

32 would be helpful

lime forge
#

32gb of ram will help with streaming

#

yes

#

and if a 2070s is all you need, even better

#

brb

deep skiff
#

yeah but 16 cores would also help

round flare
#

32 gb kit of trident z royal?

#

Y E S

deep skiff
little osprey
#

yes

deep skiff
#

smh 6ghz kit or bust

#

anyway imma go to sleep so if u need me just ping me and wait until like 6:30 am

pulsar garnet
latent bronze
#

32gb memory to help with streaming?

pulsar garnet
#

if he's hosting servers

deep skiff
#

get a d15, a much cheaper 32gb kit, and a cheaper 750w psu

pulsar garnet
#

extra RAM might help

#

no cheaping out on the PSU, boy

little osprey
#

when I had my laptop I would host multiple servers, couldn't play, but ya know, oh well

pulsar garnet
#

8 cores, 32GB RAM

deep skiff
little osprey
#

What's the non A chip? The gaming trio is a decent 2080 ti if you don't want to flash bios - one of the best imo

latent bronze
#

hosting server i can understand but saying you need 32gb of memory for streaming i don't know who else would suggest that for streaming

deep skiff
#

a evga black

latent bronze
#

i stream with 16gb of memory with no problems

little osprey
#

The gaming (X) version of the trio, as well as the "ultra" of the ftw3 from evga are 100% sticker tax

pulsar garnet
#

he's streaming and hosting servers

#

okay?

deep skiff
#

cause zack just sorted by cheapest :v

little osprey
#

plus if I get 32 now, I won't have to upgrade later

lime forge
#

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

#

(emphasis on looks)

little osprey
#

Ah, ya, black is $1k and all - but $200 more for much better cooler and somewhat better card/chip ofc

deep skiff
#

yeah I couldn’t find the non X in stock, and the X was only $50 off FE

pulsar garnet
#

660p for boot drive hmm

little osprey
#

Nvidia stopped producing non a TU 102 dies earlier this year iirc

#

660p boot gets you on the naughty list

deep skiff
#

okay I can’t deal with zack any more gn

lime forge
#

yay i got rid of him theo_cat_arms

deep skiff
#

somebody else fix that list

#

I’ve fixed too many of his :/

little osprey
#

32GB probably won't hurt too much - probs just un-needed

#

But I think we all like to have some things we don't need 🙂

lime forge
#

keeping in mind he has $2700 to spend

little osprey
#

I could go 24

#

gb

lime forge
#

i think 32gb is reasonable

little osprey
#

$2700 - either go 32 with dual ranks, 4x8 singles, or 2x8 with top tier rest haha

pulsar garnet
#

if he's hosting servers and streaming i think 32GB is reasonable

lime forge
#

^

little osprey
#

a 16gb and an 8 gb

lime forge
#

THANK YOU

pulsar garnet
#

so here's what i think

#

or instead of firecuda get a 2TB 660p

#

or some 3-4TB HDD

lime forge
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i think that list i put was perfectly fine. Theres a 2070s in there like he wanted, 2tb 660, 4tb hard drive, it looks good, 3950x, etc.

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all within budget

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nothing wrong with it

deep skiff
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yeah but like that cpu cooler is really overpriced

little osprey
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haha lemme find it

lime forge
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like i said

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emphasis on looks

deep skiff
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and u don’t need those fans :l

lime forge
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like i said

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emphasis on looks

deep skiff
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just get a deepcool 360

pulsar garnet
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air coolers look like crap

lime forge
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imma put this on copy paste

little osprey
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to those who think 32gb is too much, I could go 24

lime forge
little osprey
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The 3900x, D15, x570 TUF etc ?

pulsar garnet
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no no no not 24

lime forge
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^

little osprey
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lol

lime forge
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personally id choose either 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, etc

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no inbetweens

little osprey
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24 is awk - $2700 has plenty of room for 2x16 GB , works well

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who needs 128gb ram?

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The last 8 GB will run at single channel bandwidth - not the worst thing - but just more likely the board will be like nope

lime forge
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my dad apparently lol

little osprey
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Me lol

lime forge
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firefox calls

little osprey
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lol

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phone needing charging calls

pulsar garnet
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so yeah for almost best FPS i'd say 3700X + 2080Ti

little osprey
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2% battery

pulsar garnet
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almost meaning like a few % off from best

little osprey
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Despite having one, 3700x is kinda in an awkward spot, unless you really want that spire - which I do 🙂

lime forge
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3950x will be great for server hosting tho

little osprey
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better idea - run multiple PCs lol

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no

pulsar garnet
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lol

lime forge
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dedicate one pc per core

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POWERRRR

pulsar garnet
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1x3950X or 8x200GE?

little osprey
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well gtg battery is at 1%

lime forge
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cya 👋

little osprey
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8x3950X

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I'm about to boot the quad opteron 6378 / 2080 ti for some benching lol. A friend is streaming some 2990wx 2080 super bench runs

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Single thread speed is painfully slow

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some how managing to fit multiple processors and graphics cards in a single tower and getting them to work in sync

lime forge
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thats not unreasonable at all lol

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server boards

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sli or crossfire graphics cards

deep skiff
little osprey
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gets 1000 of Nvidia 960s

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let's do it

little osprey
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Limit is about 7 gpu on windows iirc, 2 sockets on consumer windows, server for >2, linux can do 14 or something gpu

lime forge
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all for $15000

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all i need is one 🙂

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lmao

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if i can play my roblox and my minecraft im satisfied

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YIKES

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those look like they got beat up

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or is that just smudged thermal paste

little osprey
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Just old, baked on server 1u heat sink thermal paste gunk

deep skiff
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just get some rubbing alcohol

lime forge
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ah

pulsar garnet
lime forge
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gooood nght

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cya

pulsar garnet
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if you really need the 12 cores and only a 2070S

little osprey
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I don't follow the isopropanol religion so much haha, just paper towell, then coffee filter, isopropanol to get the remainder

pulsar garnet
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that brings it down a looot

little osprey
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yeah well, when I play Minecraft I need TONS of mods

pulsar garnet
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$2,000

little osprey
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True story - minecraft, especially Java + spigot run extremely well on a 3900x

latent bronze
pulsar garnet
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ok

latent bronze
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2 PC's in one case

little osprey
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I use Technic launcher for my Minecraft mods

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Old meta was 9900k + 4x16 or 4x8 4133 c17 or something

pulsar garnet
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fast boi ram

little osprey
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$120 for 3200c14 is still a bit much imo - hope that comes down eventually

pulsar garnet
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what i linked will be PLENTY for playing, hosting, streaming minecraft

little osprey
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I'd go 3733c18 or something for cheaper, but still decent ish OC

pulsar garnet
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it also has RGB for looks 😄

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@little osprey spend $600 on 64GB 3200C14 RAM

little osprey
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I'd probably go for some 2x16 dual ranks, never played with those before - intel arch likes that for stuff like burst copy

pulsar garnet
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3950X hasn't been released yet, so take it with a grain of salt

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@little osprey