building-and-recc-chat

[polar brook]

I booted into windows

[rough loom]

hmm. I guess test to see if it works from there

if no problems then add the 2nd stick

if problem before 2nd stick then try swapping the ram stick with the other

and different channels

if continued issues than if you have a different sata cable try that or swapping the sata connection.

to a different port

[polar brook]

I’ll do what I can I have to leave for work in about 20 25 mins

[rough loom]

just kind of a guidline to follow. Then if still isues maybe a new drive??

[polar brook]

I’ll just install windows on my newer ssd

If things get wild that is 😀

[rough loom]

always worth a shot

[polar brook]

Added second stick and it’s still running....I guess maybe the ram just needed to be reseated

[rough loom]

a fresh install to a new drive probably wouldnt hurt either

pc's can be very finicky sometimes with weird triggers like that

[polar brook]

Well hopefully this drive makes it till Christmas time I’ll use my work bonus to get a nvme for my os

[rough loom]

I feel it

[polar brook]

Well off to work usually shut er down but I’ll leave it running and it’ll still be running when I get home

[fossil hedge]

I hate it

so much

[sudden turret]

lol

[ripe osprey]

i love it

[tropic estuary]

Is the ryzen 5 3600 just a low voltaged ryzen 5 2600x?

[little osprey]

no, they're entirely different chips

2600x is on the older 12nm process but the 3600 is on the new 7nm process

[chilly marsh]

^

thats like one of the biggest differences lmao

[little osprey]

it requires a lower voltage as a result of the improved design, ect

but they are not at all the same chips

[tropic estuary]

Yeah it terms of clock speeds they look the same

[deep skiff]

the 2600(x) is the second gen x600(x) cpu on the 12nm FinFET process, and the 3600(x) is the third gen x600(x) cpu on the new 7nm process node

the X just has a better cooler and 200mhz higher boost clock

[little osprey]

The 3600 has the best price/performance of anything we've seen in a longt ime. Hard to go wrong there.

[deep skiff]

looks at $120 ryzen 2600 and $80 ryzen 1600

[little osprey]

2600 is quite nice as well - for someone upgrading from a dual core laptop or something, like night and day

[plush shale]

Hello there. I am new to the server and I am not sure if this is the right channel or if I am doing this correctly. If I am on the wrong channel or doing this wrong, please inform me. I am planning on building my own PC, but I am a complete newbie and have never done this before. I wanted to ask you if these parts would fit together well. I never made a PC before, nor do I know a lot of stuff, so most of my picks are just reasonable guesses. Here are the links to the parts I picked:

CPU:
https://www.newegg.com/core-i9-9th-gen-intel-core-i9-9900k/p/N82E16819117957
Motherboard:
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144211
Video Graphic Device:
https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-11g-p4-2281-kr/p/N82E16814487418
Power Supply:
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rmx-series-rm850x-cp-9020180-na-850w/p/N82E16817139234
Memory:
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236454
Storage:
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822236625
PC Cooling:
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16835181138
Cases: (One of the two)
https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-mb530p-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119354
https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-mb500-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119345
Other:
https://www.newegg.com/arctic-silver-as5-3-5g/p/N82E16835100007

(I putted the links in code format so the channel is not filled with pictures of each link)

As mentioned before, I am a complete newbie when it comes to building a PC, and I feel like it would be very bad if I bought all the parts and then they did not fit together. I am mainly aiming for a PC that has a RTX GeForce 2080 Ti Video Graphics Card, 32 GB DDR4 RAM, 1 Terabyte Storage, and either Intel i7 or Intel i9 CPU, the rest are things that I thought would fit with them (so they can function correctly). If I did anything wrong, please inform me. If you have any suggestions, please tell me too. If you think that I should select a certain part instead of another, then tell me about it too. Thank you for your time and effort.

[deep skiff]

@plush shale so im going to assume 4k60fps/1440p144hz ultra gaming most likely?

[plush shale]

Yes.

I'm going for 1440p or 4K.

[deep skiff]

for an extra $100 i'd go for this 2080 ti, it has slightly higher clock speeds+better overclocker and much cooler and quieter due to triple fan (the gaming x trio, strix, aorus extreme, and zotac extreme amp are all usually top tier models) https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-rtx-2080-ti-gaming-trio/p/N82E16814137405?Description=rtx 2080 ti&cm_re=rtx_2080_ti-_-14-137-405-_-Product

[little osprey]

What makes it a better overclocker

[deep skiff]

it should be binned better, and the better cooling should let it oc higher

aib's can bin the 300a chips

[little osprey]

100% right 🙂

I was just curious, - I recommend that card sometimes too

[deep skiff]

yeah its surprisingly cheap compared to strix ones, and $20ish under the FE

[little osprey]

The Trio >>>> the X. just a price hike , same card

[plush shale]

Thank you.

I'll keep that video card in mind.

Is the rest of the setup going to fit together, or am I going to have problems?

[little osprey]

So, there are 3-4 cards that perform on that level without mods.

[deep skiff]

and 32gb is overkill, drop it down to 2x8gb sticks, and get a wd blue instead of wd black 1tb and a 512gb sabrent rocket ssd (much faster storage than a hard drive) for booting windows up and most important games

[plush shale]

Oh, alright.

[little osprey]

I have the ftw3 myself, but personal preference could make either the gaming trio, asus strix (not the non-a version) , or some of the other top ends a good pick.

[plush shale]

I am going for 32 GB because I will probably be doing some coding on it too.

[little osprey]

My advice - go 4x8 3200c14 on a z390 aorus master or, if you like the bios better, one of the ROG boards

[deep skiff]

oh then you could keep it if you think you'd need it, because if you can upgrade it later

[little osprey]

bank interleave does give an edge

coming from a guy with 3 z390* boards with only 2 slots each

[deep skiff]

to start, i would get 2x8gb sticks, and then if you need more get another kit of 2x8 (preferable the same brand and should be same speeds) if you don't know if you should get 32gb or not

but idk much about coding

[little osprey]

The only reason I'd say 32 right away - less hassle, matched 4x8 kit in sequential serial numbers, and if you're in the market for a $2k pc, you can afford $120 for 32 vs 16

(IMO)

[deep skiff]

solid point

[plush shale]

Alright.

I'll go for the 2x8 then.

[deep skiff]

@little osprey do you think the 3900x would be better off for coding than the 9900k?

since they're pretty close in games

or is it single threaded stuff

[little osprey]

Kinda - depending how much intested Batman is in my input, I'd be happy to elaborate - up to him

PSU, RAM coice, cooling, storage ya

[plush shale]

I am a complete newbie here, so you guys probably know better.

[little osprey]

@deep skiff The GN ft. wendell video does a good job of summarizing that - would explain better than I could

[latent bronze]

Did you see the overkill streaming build Bitwit did using a 3900X for gaming and a 9900K for streaming?

[deep skiff]

yeah

didnt see the last bit tho, saw the build part

[little osprey]

@ Batnan212369 Happy to help - but only if you do want input

[deep skiff]

just get the 3950x

[little osprey]

Don't want to give any UnsolicitedComputerAdvice

[latent bronze]

he was playing Doom 2016 which i find the 3900X is overkill for it especially for 1440p

[plush shale]

So to recap, it would be recommended to get a 2x8 DDR4 RAM Sticks https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232476, a WB 1T Blue Hard Drive https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822236339, a Z390 AORUS MASTER Motherboard https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145089, and a 512 GB Internal SSD (Can't find one because I don't know which one you are talking about)?

[deep skiff]

this was the ssd i was talking about https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KGMBCKD/?tag=pcpapi-20

they're about $30 more on newegg thats weird

[steady breach]

I am considering ($30-40) sleeved cables, any recomendations?

[plush shale]

Thanks.

[little osprey]

I wouldn't bother getting a spinning drive if you're only getting one drive, definitely get a SSD for that kinds build

[lime forge]

@steady breach get cable extensions

[deep skiff]

c: imma order some soon

[lime forge]

cable extensions are the best

i use them, they work great and look just as good, have a look

[plush shale]

Are SSD's better than Hard Drives?

[lime forge]

yes

[little osprey]

Significantly in every way but price

[deep skiff]

they're faster, and pretty cheap right now compared to what they used to be

[plush shale]

Is a Hard Drive required, or can you do a build with a 1T SSD instead of a 1T Hard Drive?

[little osprey]

Hard drives are cheaper but the money spent on a ssd is well worth every cent

[lime forge]

also cable extensions cost $35 for a pack with 24pin, 4+4 eps, and 8+6 pin pcie, and you can order them to match how much power your graphics card takes

[little osprey]

I only have ssds in my build

[plush shale]

Oh, so I don't need a Hard Drive?

I could only use a 1T SSD, right?

[lime forge]

batman what most people do is get a 512gb ssd and put windows on it and their programs and games they play frequently, that way they all load fast, and then people get a hard drive for things like pictures and videos which dont have to load super fast

[little osprey]

So, yes you can have only SSDs if you want. If you need a repository for stuff you don't access regularly (i.e., games you don't play often) you won't be gimped by the slower speed

[plush shale]

Oh.

Ok.

[little osprey]

But you'll still have them to shuffle around on your SSD when you do wanna play them

Instead of redownloading them

[deep skiff]

here's a video on the fastest nvme (faster than normal sata iii ssd's), fastest sata iii ssd, and a ssd/hard drive hybrid and a hard drive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AYextvB9l4

[lime forge]

personally i have a 2tb ssd and a 2tb hard drive, i keep windows and all my games on the ssd and all my pictures and games i dont play often on the hard drive

[deep skiff]

i just have a 512gb ssd cause im broke

but i can yoink my dad's spare 700 or something gb hard drive

[lime forge]

i dont recommend getting a 2tb hard drive and a 2tb ssd, i just have a specific circumstance

[deep skiff]

a large homework folder

[little osprey]

You'll feel pretty limited by anything less than a 512gb ssd imo

[lime forge]

nachos

[deep skiff]

[lime forge]

my dad had the 2tb ssd because he is insane but then he gave it to me when i got his computers internals

[deep skiff]

im a good boy

[plush shale]

Alright. So other than that, will my build function and fit together?

(Want me to post updated links with old ones?)

[deep skiff]

yeah it should all fit together nicely

[plush shale]

Alright. Thank you very much.

[little osprey]

oops, forgot about this, did someone make a full pcpp?

[deep skiff]

i can make one

[little osprey]

Not tryna imply anyone needs my approval btw haha

[plush shale]

Last question, will this case work with the build? https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-mb500-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119345 (Trying to go for a cheaper case because the total price of the computer is already overkill)

[sweet charm]

Which would be better??

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/htMwrH

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7Y3H99

[little osprey]

@sweet charm What's the rest of the parts list, what do you use it for, budget?

But that first link, the 3200c14 is miles better.

[sweet charm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JG8Lk6

[deep skiff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W7xnQq

[little osprey]

That said - if you have a zen2, and you just want to set XMP and forget it - option 2 is easier

[deep skiff]

@little osprey i got the ppcp link for batman's

[sweet charm]

My budget is 3000-3200 for the whole pc...

[little osprey]

I should offer to use voicechat for this kind of stuff to save time haha

[sweet charm]

Would, but cant for another 15mins

[little osprey]

I never have, just a random thought

[sweet charm]

But yea... I'm down

😂😂

[little osprey]

So - one build at a time

[deep skiff]

@sweet charm youc an also get windows keys for >$10

[sweet charm]

Where??

[deep skiff]

you didnt hear that from me

[latent bronze]

grey market sites

[sweet charm]

Huh??

Explain

[latent bronze]

they're not good but also they're not bad

[sweet charm]

Hahaha

[latent bronze]

The grey market is like the middle group for what is legal and not

[deep skiff]

they have a lot of places, i just got mine off ebay for like $5 and it works fine

[sweet charm]

How do you access that??

[deep skiff]

@latent bronze some of them are also just large companies trying to sell of a bunch of them for cheap

[latent bronze]

You can get it on reddit as well

[steady breach]

@lime forge any reccomendations?

[latent bronze]

@deep skiff i am aware of that already

[deep skiff]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-10-Pro-32-64bit-License-Key-Digital-Download-1-PC-Genuine/303171440264 heres one i found in half a minute

lmfao that link

[latent bronze]

always delete the text starting from the question mark

[deep skiff]

yeah

[little osprey]

eh

[latent bronze]

I am removing the link cause it was just an example

[deep skiff]

wait hecc u can make it even shorter

[little osprey]

Gonna delete my own in a sec - I don't wnat to advertise such links here

[deep skiff]

||thats what im for||

[little osprey]

I have some scripts to do so

[latent bronze]

But buying a windows key from ebay is a 50% chance it will work

[deep skiff]

you can also buy 20 for the price of a normal one

[little osprey]

I usually buy OEM keys in bulk and give them out on stream for free under a novelty account - windows key sugar daddy

[deep skiff]

[latent bronze]

That and you can lose your 5$ https://i.gyazo.com/9775c4e125ff989c9225337964ac7991.png

[deep skiff]

it was just an example :v

[little osprey]

That's buyer error

[latent bronze]

yes i know it is an example but for things like CD Keys you will always see that message

just because there are people that will try to scan as well

Anyways i am using a retail key instead just so if something was to happen to my board or i was replacing it i can keep using the same key

[little osprey]

Correction : buyer error increases the chance of getting scammed significantly

[deep skiff]

its also like buying used gpus, etc

more risk, more reward

[little osprey]

Wanna see what I bought used recently lol

[deep skiff]

better not be that $20 psu

i kind of want to buy really sketchy things and see if they work or not now

[little osprey]

Just used PC parts. The 850 G3 was the only "sketchy" psu I bought expecting it to be worn down from mining

https://puu.sh/EqPAd/e5a2e866ae.png

https://puu.sh/EqPAW/f34ba09ff2.png

[sweet charm]

So this is my build I am thinking about doing, all together it's about 3200... that's my budget for the build... any comments or recommendations are much appreciated...

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HLG7Pn

[deep skiff]

oh no @little osprey that wont go well

[latent bronze]

creepy towel rack

[little osprey]

haha why not

It's a shower curtain.

I have the jeff goldblum one too

$30 more gets better ram, $180 more gets much better CPU - might be unneeded depending on use , I'd cut out the windows, put that money on the PSU, what's the 2.5" sata ssd for?

[sweet charm]

The case supports more 2.5 than hdd

[little osprey]

I haven't heard much about the taichi - I have a similar setup actually, 3700x, DRP4, 2080ti, samsung nvme etc

Do youhave a preference for corsair peripherals?

[sweet charm]

Yes... like the way they feel

Especially the keyboard

[little osprey]

I've been team logitech for a long time - but they're kinda slipping - looking for alternatives myself.

But ya, I can't discourage you from paying for windows - but let me know if you want to know some of the keys to success.. on that

haha what did I invite you to

[deep skiff]

that also is an overpriced monitor

[little osprey]

For an ultrawide?

[deep skiff]

for a 1080p ultrawide

[latent bronze]

You buy a lot of odd and creepy things so i don't think i would ever want to visit your place lol

[little osprey]

ohhh haha

Such a hipster using opterons

[sweet charm]

What would be better for a monitor??

[little osprey]

Oh I didn't catch that it was a 1080p ultrawide - I always just assume monitor is preference

[sweet charm]

1440

[little osprey]

Ya - I'd say $250 to 500 for a 27" 144hz VRR

[latent bronze]

Just curious but do you think i could make 500$ from this and also i replaced the hard drive with a 480gb SSD https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16834316236

[little osprey]

Could go TN/VA for cheap, curved if you're that kind of person, or $500 IPS low lag

[sweet charm]

I want a 30"+ 144hz monitor

[little osprey]

Rough guess 200

That's fine - probably a good one out there, check out rtings.com, tftcentral.uk, and the blurbusters forums

[sweet charm]

Also, is it even worth getting a 4k montitor rn??

[latent bronze]

That laptop i linked is a nice system for what it is but would like something a little better for gaming and to also maybe stream on when i am not home

[little osprey]

I have both. I think 27 is too small for 4k 27 is perfect for 2k , 24 is for 1080p. -MY preference haha

[deep skiff]

here's an edited list with cheaper ram at the same speed (iirc), cheaper mobo because its not an oc'd 3900x or 3950x, cheaper windows key, and better monitor https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jk2pgJ

[sweet charm]

I also wanted a ips 144hz montitor

[little osprey]

But I always repeat that monitor is hugely personal preference

[deep skiff]

1440p 144hz ips is very nice tho, but kind of expensive

[sweet charm]

Hehehe

What about 2k instead of 4k

[deep skiff]

1440p is 2k

[sweet charm]

My bad

Lmao

[little osprey]

Well, 27" 2560x1440 IPS 144 like the LG new low response time one is $500

[sweet charm]

I was talking to a friends about it too

[deep skiff]

nah its good, resolutions can be confusing

[sweet charm]

😂😂

Nvm I'll just do 1080p

Lmao

[little osprey]

I have a 27ud68 LG 4k 60hz, and an Asus PG279QZ.

[deep skiff]

yeah for 1440p 144hz ips 16:9 id say 425-500

ive got a px7 prime

[little osprey]

My go-to rec has been the dell s2719DGF - but newer models by competing brands are popping up with better features/performance/value

[deep skiff]

is that the 1440p 144hz tn one?

[little osprey]

yes

[sweet charm]

But what about 30" or bigger

[deep skiff]

yeah on r/bapcs it goes to like $265

[little osprey]

@sweet charm Check rtings and tftcentral

[sweet charm]

Like 30"-34"

Alright

[deep skiff]

rtings is a good place for monitor stuff

[sweet charm]

Alright

[little osprey]

Modern, non-welfare-tier TN isn't as bad as it used to be. My current IPS monitor left, my first 144hz panel from 2013 on right.
vhttps://puu.sh/EpS9O.gif

[sweet charm]

What is the left monitor??

[little osprey]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/tuf-vg32vq

left in the gif is a PG279QZ

[deep skiff]

ok this is a kind of stupid question but i don't know much about monitors @little osprey

what software do they use to calibrate the color profiles?

like how do you change it

nvm i just found it

[little osprey]

Multiple ways you can do it - with a professional tool like the x-rite (i forgot model names) and the bundled software

[sweet charm]

What's that 32inch you posted

[little osprey]

Or you can just do it manually by feel - good enough unless you edit photos professionally in which case , throw all this out, pick different

@sweet charm What about it

[deep skiff]

yeah i found what they used

thanks

[sweet charm]

What about it??

[little osprey]

It links to the review, right?

[deep skiff]

@sweet charm https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/tuf-vg32vq

[sweet charm]

Nvm

I feel stupid

😂😂😂

[little osprey]

It's just one of a handful of options for 32" 1440p VRR 144hz

[sweet charm]

Hehehe

Sorry I'm so stupid rn

[little osprey]

You're fine, don't overthink it, but that rtings, tftcentral, then if you really want to get serious, make an account on the blurbusters forums to ask around, then again on /r/monitors

[sweet charm]

Hahah it's all good

Was just overthinking it😂😂

The asus tuf is a vs panel

Va

@little osprey

[little osprey]

I'm aware

[sweet charm]

U have??

[little osprey]

what

[sweet charm]

Do u have it??

[little osprey]

I posted the model numbers that I have

[latent bronze]

But are you really aware 🤔

[little osprey]

I can tell you're mixing something up that makes it seem like I think the panel Ihave is IPS when it's a VA

Did I typo somewhere?

[deep skiff]

u said vrr

but that doesnt have to do with panel types at all

[little osprey]

I see, I posted a recommendation to HB right before I clarified which monitors in the GIF I posted were which

[latent bronze]

VA is the only panel i can't use

[deep skiff]

ive only used an old tn and a new ips so i cant really say which is the best unbiasedly

but ips is nice

[little osprey]

VRR is just easier to type than freesync or g-sync compatible, or official g-sync, or g-sync ultimate

[deep skiff]

offical nvidia green awesome compatible ultimate and can run freesync just fine you mean?

[little osprey]

The hardwrae module itself for g-sync ultimate is $500 lol - probably going into a $2000 total monitor

G-sync 1 module wsa $150 iirc

hardware g-sync monitors would have to be hevaily discounted to be competitive with the freesync competitors today imo

[sweet charm]

It's so hard finding a good ips 1440p 144hz 32" monitor😑😑

[rough loom]

well not hard. they just expensive

[little osprey]

Both tbh

[sweet charm]

Hahah I want one no more than 600

L ao

Lmao

😂😂

I'll just stick to 1080

[little osprey]

What they really need is a "gsync ultimate" 2k panel, or more specifically 10 bit color, 144hz+, FALD

[latent bronze]

You don't want 32" as a monitor

[little osprey]

But I think gigabyte just started making a monitor with all that, just not 1000 nits brightness

[latent bronze]

so much neck movements while playing

[little osprey]

Depends on how far you are really but I'd definitely twist around with how close I have to sit to my desk

And a 32" monitor

[latent bronze]

I have a 32" TV which i use when i lay down in bed when i choose to use my Nvidia Shield, Switch or PS2

[sweet charm]

What is 2560X1080 mean??

Lmao

[ripe osprey]

Its not a 16:9 aspect ratio lmao

[sweet charm]

Is it better?

Lmao

[ripe osprey]

Its different

I mean personnally id stay with something that is in normal spec

Of 16:9

So 2560x1440

Or 1920x1080

Unless youre going for like ultrawide

[sweet charm]

Well I just want an ultra wide monitor.. but it doesn't have it in a 1440 that is not 600 or below rn

[ripe osprey]

Yeah youre not gonna find an uw 1440 for cheap

[sweet charm]

Yea I know

[ripe osprey]

I mean a 1440p 144hz is 400

Or more

[sweet charm]

Cheapest one is 800

[ripe osprey]

Its still relatively new

Im not well versed on ultra wides

[sweet charm]

Yea I know...

[ripe osprey]

I dont use one personally

[sweet charm]

What do you use??

[ripe osprey]

But if you want a good price youll have a buy used

1440p 144hz 27"

With a 21" 1080p 60hz second monitor

[latent bronze]

is discord buggy or something right now?

[ripe osprey]

Why?

[sweet charm]

Yea... notifications aren't popping up

[ripe osprey]

Ah i have notifs turned off

[latent bronze]

posted my new video in #links-and-selfpromotion and well the image for the video not showing

[ripe osprey]

Especially for this server

Discord is weird like that sometimes

[sweet charm]

Yea

[sweet charm]

Which one would you guys choose??

[little osprey]

What's the most you're willing to spend? And do you insist on UW?

Not that I want to talk you out of a UW

[sweet charm]

600 max....

No not stuck on it, but would like it

[little osprey]

The first one there is curved, if you want UW curved your options are gonna be really limited

[sweet charm]

Yea I know.. that's the best rated UW curved

[little osprey]

Imo I would trade a jump to 2kUW over the curved

But that's just me, curved panels are not my jam but the only way to know is to try yourself

[sweet charm]

I like em

There nice, but not needed

[little osprey]

Ok

That's totally fine just trying to pin down what exactly you want

[sweet charm]

1440p 144hz 27"-32" under 600

😂😂😂

If not bigger

Lmao

I'd like one at least to 30"

But it's fine if not

Ips would be nice too, but ye

[little osprey]

That LG ticks a lot of those boxes and is in your budget, I'm not really able to find a lot without going up a bracket in cost

[sweet charm]

@little osprey what would you recommend at a higher price

@potent karma it's all good as long as you have the money more power to you man

[little osprey]

This is a juicy boy but quite a bit more than you were looking to spend. And if you have an AMD GPU then it's definitely not what you want ASUS ROG Swift PG349Q Ultra-wide Curved Gaming Monitor - 34" 21:9 Ultra-wide QHD (3440x1440), overclockable 120Hz , G-SYNC https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16824236977?m_ver=1

[sweet charm]

Running amd

Lmao

😂😂

@potent karma your build is good for honestly another 3-5 years bro

Yea, but it's still not bad

Lmao... I feel it

[little osprey]

Samsung CHG70 Series C27HG70 27" 1800R Curved Gaming Monitor, QLED, 1ms (GTG) 2560x1440 (2K) 144Hz, AMD FreeSync 2, 2xHDMI, DP, USB, VESA Mount, Height/Tilt/Swivel/Pivot Adjustable https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16824022583?m_ver=1

[sweet charm]

Hahaha I want to get ryzen 9 3900x rtx 2080

[little osprey]

ASUS ROG Strix XG32VQR 32" (Actual size 31.5") WQHD 2560x1440 144Hz 4ms 2xHDMI DisplayPort USB Ports Radeon FreeSync 2 Curved HDR Gaming Monitor https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16824236973?m_ver=1

[sweet charm]

Nice

[little osprey]

No

I'm dumb

They're different sizes

[sweet charm]

I like the asus rog

Hehe

[little osprey]

I have an Acer x27 so I can't really vouch for the quality of the other panels, but they appear to be what you're looking for

[sweet charm]

Yea I'll do more research

[little osprey]

LG 32GK650F-B 32" (31.5" viewable) QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 5ms (Faster), 1ms with Motion Blur Reduction 144 Hz HDMI, DisplayPort Radeon FreeSync 3-Side Borderless Gaming Monitor https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16824025915?m_ver=1 this too fits your bill, but doesn't have freesync 2

[quaint terrace]

What would be a good rgb lighting for a white case?

im thinking red o:

[balmy canopy]

Purple

[sudden turret]

clear

[ripe osprey]

purple

[quaint terrace]

thanks

[digital cipher]

building a new pc it has a 8+4 power for cpu do i need to run the 4 pin power or will i be ok with just the 8 pin

any help be appreciated

[deep skiff]

the 8 pin should be fine unless you're extreme overclocking

[chilly marsh]

^

[digital cipher]

i may run a bit of over clocking but not much

might leave alone if its good

[deep skiff]

yeah unless you're reaching over 255w from the cpu, you don't need the extra 4 pins

[digital cipher]

doing a ryzen 5 3600x

[deep skiff]

yeah thats a 65w chip

[digital cipher]

yea says max of 95w so should be good then right

[deep skiff]

yes

[digital cipher]

sweet appreciate it

[limpid merlin]

@gloomy rock what gpu is that (I like the cooler)

[gloomy rock]

Asus gtx 1060 dual fan

[latent bronze]

Sadly that is one of the weaker 1060's

[gloomy rock]

Not with a 350 MHz core overclock lol

This is thing overclocks so high

It's ridiculous

[latent bronze]

Would help if it wasn't 3gb as well 😛

[chilly marsh]

3gb is so low for 2019 soon to be 2020

games gonna be needing more vram anyways

[latent bronze]

which is why i have 6gb

[chilly marsh]

same here

[latent bronze]

Nvidia needs to make a 5gb GTX 1650 Ti

If they did that lowered the price of the 1650 and make that one that price now they would dominate

[chilly marsh]

how much is it rn

[latent bronze]

cheapest is 160$

and if you think about it if they were to make a 5gb 1650 Ti the performance got to be between the 570 and 580

@chilly marsh You can see here https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-gtx-1650-04g-p4-1151-kr/p/N82E16814487443

and the only reason why it has a bad score is the person bought without looking

[chilly marsh]

i dont like the 1650 because its so weird

its so close to the 570 and 580

similar pricing too

[latent bronze]

Well the 1650 people thought it was a cheap upgrade to the 1050 Ti but really it is the upgrade for the 1050

[chilly marsh]

rx570 is pretty close to the 1650 too

[latent bronze]

i think now they might get rid of the whole Ti think and just start with Super instead

[chilly marsh]

oof

i always liked the title of Ti

made it more bad A s

[latent bronze]

RX 570 performance is higher than a 1650

[chilly marsh]

exactly

you can even get an rx 570 for a little cheaper lol

its such a good gpu for like 500 bucks

[latent bronze]

But if you do sort of think about it the 1650 i linked can overclock better which you can have the same performance as the 570 and use a little less power

Just because as well it needs extra juice to work

[chilly marsh]

ofc, for someone who wants to oc

if they dont, then they'll prob go for the 570

[latent bronze]

If my YT channel was more popular i would be buying the so called budget cards for testing out and the so called budget CPU's as well (Ryzen 3 and 8th/9th gen i3)

[chilly marsh]

oo

[grand brook]

I want to add a second hdd to my build but there is no where to mount it in my case. There is also no available harddrive bay. Any solutions?

[sudden turret]

get a different case.

[ripe osprey]

^

[sudden turret]

i mean..

lol

[ripe osprey]

you can get away with sticking an ssd anywhere

but a hard drive

[latent bronze]

What is the case you're using now

[ripe osprey]

def not

[sudden turret]

peel in stick

😄

[latent bronze]

He could Velcro or cable tie it

But it also helps to know what case he is using as well

[ripe osprey]

i wouldnt want to risk doing that with a hard drive

cause the moving parts

id do it with an SSD

[latent bronze]

There is a chance on the rear panel that he can have more drive bays that he is unaware of

[sterile slate]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tXnTHB This is kinda what im looking at. i might switch around what parts are there...

[latent bronze]

@sterile slate Why not go for a Ryzen 5 3600?

[sterile slate]

i havent looked at they ryzens yet. its just an idea of what i could go with.. ill switch to it

[latent bronze]

Well just thinking of the cost of your system and that you could maybe use something a little more up to date cause the 8700K now is pretty old

[sterile slate]

my part builder list is being dumb.. all it will show me is intel cores and i have no filters on

[latent bronze]

You have to replace the motherboard to a X570

[ripe osprey]

or click show incompatible products

[sterile slate]

I removed the motherboard from the list

[latent bronze]

@sterile slate here check this out and it is about 200$ less https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fh2Fdm

you can change the board if you like just wanted to give you an idea how much it would cost

I got to ask what games are you planning on playing?

[sterile slate]

i honestly dont know.. nothing that needs too much

yeah that looks a lot better

probably mostly indi games

[latent bronze]

For most indie games out there that i know of you could use the 3400G with the integrated GPU instead but also depends which indie game you plan on playing as well

There is a lot that isn't demanding

[grand brook]

The case I'm using is from my friends old prebuilt that he sold to me when he got a new rig. It is a Cyberpower Syber Cube. Unfortunately you cannot buy only the case. I can open it up to show you. Sorry for the late response we were deciding if we should evacuate because of CA fires.

This is what it looks like in the back

The other side is where the MoBo is and there is no where to mount a drive

Im working on cleaning up the cable management and maybe there will be room afterwards

[deep skiff]

@latent bronze why a 560 and 3600?

a 2600+b450+ rx 5700 (don’t need a 750w psu) would be much better

[feral basalt]

That list must be a meme lol

[deep skiff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mKRBPn

[latent bronze]

@deep skiff it was the guys original list all i did was swap around to the 3600 to show him a price difference

[snow quiver]

What up tech fam

Can I upgrade my Mobo to a new one that will still take my I7 2600 lga 1155 on my new swap / build

I want to upgrade my mother board now that I am going to build my new system with new case, gpu, and psu

but i dont want to spend to much more for current build

so I am trying to keep my cpu

[dusk geyser]

No boards will take a 2600 cpu, no

If u upgrade u need new board cpu and ddr4 ram

[snow quiver]

ok so I will wait

[dusk geyser]

Yea what you are looking at is building a whole new PC

[snow quiver]

for now I was just trying to maximize my current system but got way to deep into this

so where do i start in regards to looking into a new Mobo

[dusk geyser]

Look at going with AMD B450 motherboard, Ryzen 2600/3600 or better, 2x8gb ddr4 3200, a least one SSD and then make your own Win10 64bit usb flash drive for install purposes.

A 2600 is still good. Get the ram up to 16gb and install os on an ssd

Then buy a better psu and gpu

Games would still be ok on an i7 2600

[snow quiver]

about a week ago i came on here and @latent bronze really helped me out and guided me on what to do,

let me tell you what I currently have

and what i bought

you see the mother board I have, i am running on ssd already, 8 gigs ram (max supported) power supply 220 w, and intel intergrated 2000

i wanted to upgrade my gpu

so i needed more power

but my HP slimline is tiny

so I bought

[dusk geyser]

U could just take the current board and install into a new atx case and get a decent atx psu. The max anyone really needs anymore is 650w and that's for an i7 with any of the best single gpus out there.

But was this a prebuild, like dell/hp?

Ok it's am HP Slim

[dusk geyser]

Yea u can't upgrade those, but u can transfer the motherboard into a new case then ull have plenty of room for standard psu, gpu amd drives

[snow quiver]

and msi geforce gtx 1050ti 4g oc

[dusk geyser]

For psu I'd look at Corsair or Seasonic, gold certified

Ok then really all you need is maybe a SeaSonic 520w as you don't need much for a 1050 Ti

But keep in mind, that will struggle with many demanding games

As it's a cheap low end gpu

[snow quiver]

as of right now i am not into gaming but I am getting into video editing

[dusk geyser]

I would never go below RX 580 or GTX 1070 / 1660 Ti anymore

[snow quiver]

thats the who reason I started upgrading so i can run premier pro

I thin my motherboard is also limited to 1050

[dusk geyser]

U can do video editing without a gpu catd

[snow quiver]

its a 2011 prebuild

so pretty old

[dusk geyser]

Old yes, but at least u have an i7 which still does fairly well for its age

The issue is, 8gb isn't much. For video editing you want like 16-32gb ram

But it might be ok if you stick to 1080p videos and maybe use Win7 64bit

Win7 64bit came on that PC, correct?

[snow quiver]

yes win 7 64 bit

i currently have win 10

[dusk geyser]

Yea I would just do a clean install of Win7, is better on ram usage

[snow quiver]

i ran a benchmark before changing to win 10 and was running p15000 and after with win 10 running p12500

[dusk geyser]

What also helps is, a 2nd ssd, this is where you would record to and edit the videos

A benchmark for what?

Unless a cpu benchmark only

[snow quiver]

i actually have 2 ssd a 128 and a 500 but I only have the 500 currently installed

[dusk geyser]

Like Cinebench

I'd use the 128 for os and apps. Use the 500 for videos, edits and storage

[snow quiver]

i used silverbench its a free one

and yes for the cpu

i assume

I got into all of this about 2 months ago

[dusk geyser]

Everything for PC software is free for the most part. Best way to compare a cpu is via Cinebench

Win10 shouldn't hurt performance, but it will use up ram more or differently

[snow quiver]

ok it did not have to be downloaded so I went with thatone

[dusk geyser]

So with only 8gb ram, that won't give u much to work wifh

[snow quiver]

so let me try with cinebench

[dusk geyser]

Then in Cinebench you can compare your 2600 performance to other 2600 tests, or to similar cpus

[snow quiver]

I upgraded the cpu too it did not have the i7 i bought a used on for $70.00 and popped it in.

[dusk geyser]

But being an oem prebuild, the motherboard and ram could easily hinder your performance a bit

[snow quiver]

so my main dilemma is spending money for things that might not be fuctional for to much longer.

my gpu i bought refurbished for $110.00

[dusk geyser]

Yes but you could always reuse the new case, psu and gpu over to a new build

[snow quiver]

right

so i want to start getting ready for my next build

[dusk geyser]

For psu, look at SeaSonic 520w

Should be decent price also

That Case is fine and roomy enough should u use it for a newer build down the road

[snow quiver]

I just bought the psu seasonic https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589689072692494356/632641640317845507/unknown.png

500

you thing I should return and get larger wattage

think*

80 plus bornze

[dusk geyser]

Here's the thing, do u want that psu to be enough for a future build?

If so then I'd really look at a SeaSonic or Corsair 650 watt Modular Gold Certified

[snow quiver]

well, yes because I don't want to double spend

can you suggest a good mobo

for my future build

[dusk geyser]

MSI B450 TOMAHAWK

[snow quiver]

i want to buy part by part

[dusk geyser]

and Ryzen 3700X

[snow quiver]

and then once I have it all

I will re-build my current build

[dusk geyser]

No, buy when u have the money to do mothervoard, cpu and ram. So u can ensure it all works soon as u get it

Never buy part by part amd have it sit around

[snow quiver]

do you suggest buying refurbished ?

ok

so what am i budgeting for ?

[dusk geyser]

Why would u do that if buying the latest stuff? That's just a means of getting old stuff

[snow quiver]

I will look them up but maybe you know

off the top of your hed

head

[dusk geyser]

Yes use PCPARTPICKER and select new build

Then fill out parts

[snow quiver]

ok

[dusk geyser]

Amd ryzen 3700X

Msi B450 Tomahawk

[snow quiver]

what about ram

[dusk geyser]

Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x 8GB ddr4 3200

[snow quiver]

are there any brands that are better

[dusk geyser]

Well sure, but it's more aa matter of layout and ports really

[snow quiver]

ok

and m.2??

what is that all about

[dusk geyser]

M2 is standard now

It's for SSDS

[snow quiver]

its a type off ssd

ok

[dusk geyser]

You still have approx 6 sata ports

And tons of usb 3.0/3.1

[snow quiver]

I currently have 0

[dusk geyser]

I mean on a new board

[snow quiver]

of the 3.0

i konw

but thats what got me asking all of these questions to begin with

[dusk geyser]

Well most board now just have many usb 3.0, which all can do 1.1 and 2.0

[snow quiver]

alright cool

thanks for the guidence

[dusk geyser]

No problem

[snow quiver]

I will go with your specs and make my wishlist

[dusk geyser]

Check out that board though, if u wanted a better one, look at Gigabyte X470 boards

[snow quiver]

one last question what would you suggest for a new gpu

on that new build

might as well put it on that wish list

[dusk geyser]

Well the 1050 Ti will be fine for games that aren't super demanding and would be fine for nvidia hardware encoding of video recording/editing

[snow quiver]

ok so stick to that fo row

now

[dusk geyser]

But if need better gaming gpu down the road, look at RX 5700 XT, Vega64 or RTX 2070 Super

But if buy a new gpu a year or so from now, newer ones might be out that pack a better performance per pricing

[snow quiver]

ok got it

once again thanks.

if I have questions when on my build I will be back on here.

got it

@dusk geyser that Ryzen 3700x is about 300+ right

$300.00

is that one of the newest ones out ??

[digital cipher]

if any one can help be appreciated looking to upgrade my gpu have a gtx 1060 right now looking for cheap but good cards

running a i5 7400

[agile gust]

what is cheap to you?

[digital cipher]

2-3 hundred

range

[agile gust]

Do you have a budget because a 1060 is not a bad card

let me look

[digital cipher]

its a crap card it came pre manufactured from hp its the 3gb version

[lime forge]

isnt the 1660ti in that price range? lemme go check

[digital cipher]

zack thats acutally what im looking into but unsure

[agile gust]

there are RTX 2060 6GB for about $350ish

[digital cipher]

was looking at the 1660ti from msi but dont want to bottle neck my cpu

[lime forge]

you wont bottleneck your cpu

[digital cipher]

thing the 2060 and up would bottle neck

[lime forge]

but yeah, mrc is right, if you can save up just a bit more 2060 is great

[agile gust]

The only cards in that range are the 1060 Ti's. 2060's are about $50 more.

[lime forge]

1660ti performance is about a 1070

[digital cipher]

only thing bout the 2060 i would have to do a psu change as well

[lime forge]

whats ur current one?

[digital cipher]

450w hp

its one of the omen series

[lime forge]

thats a prebuilt for ya

[agile gust]

Yeah I would replace that anyway. IMO

[digital cipher]

yea kinda sucks

[agile gust]

then you tun into will a new PSU fit in your case and my guess is not cause its prob not a very big case.

[lime forge]

650w power supply should be good

[digital cipher]

well im building a new one all together but am goin to upgrade this one for the ol lady so we can game together

[agile gust]

it might hold it. Do you have a pic of the case?

[digital cipher]

thats y i got small budget\ for this one all money goin into a new build

its a omen 870-224

[agile gust]

thanks

[digital cipher]

yea theres alot of choices for gpu but cant pour to much into this old girl

[agile gust]

After watching a video on it to be honest I would just start buying the parts for the new PC and not waste money upgrading this one. One new part is going to lead to another and then another and you would be better off putting all your time and effort into the new build. Again, that is just my opinion.

[digital cipher]

well its been a good pc for last 3 years and dont see it dying anytime soon just want to get better fps on some games

my new build doing a ryzen 3600x with a 5700xt gpu

[agile gust]

I cant say for sure that a new PSU would fit in that case. Looks like it will, but I can say it will be much heavier then what is in there now and that might not be good as that pc was really not designed to be upgraded to much.

[digital cipher]

yea about the only thing i found was people upgrading the cpu to a 7700 and doin one step upgrade on gpu

[slate parrot]

hey i got 2 issues
i just finish putting together my computer but my 1 tb of harddrive storage isn't showing up but the ssd is showing, also when i go into discord my audio is just static

[lime forge]

you gotta format the drive

press windows, and start typing 'create and format' and something should pop up called 'create and format hard disk partitions'

click on that

[slate parrot]

ok i did that

also i still have the issue with speaking

[fossil hedge]

am I allowed to post politcs

[coarse coral]

no

▶️ 5. We all love tech, but we understand that you may want to talk about something else. If so, please avoid discussing controversial and sensitive topics such as politics or religion.

[fossil hedge]

bummer

I will say hong kong is sad

it is very big sad

[storm spindle]

3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Processors
1 x PCIe 4.0 x16 (x16 mode)
2nd Gen AMD Ryzen Processors
1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 (x16 mode)

it will work with PCI 3 1050TI

if processor 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Processors

ASUS Prime X570-P

AMD RYZEN 5 3600

and old 1050TI video?

[smoky bough]

Hey mates

I got a couple questions

My pc keeps crashing even though my processor and gpu is in a constant 45-50 degrees celsius in temperature

[fossil hedge]

drivers?

[smoky bough]

drivers?

im not very good with computers xd

[deep skiff]

the software you had to download, under geforce experience for nvidia or radeon for amd (idk the full name)

[little osprey]

I am wondering if i can have someone help me with upgrading my PC.

[latent bronze]

upgrading what is the question

[next tangle]

Which would be better, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fFHvK4 or https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fmQD8M that

[daring beacon]

Im going to build my own computer but I have a budget of $600-$700 and i was wondering what the best parts would be for me if i wanted to game and occationaly stream

[latent bronze]

What are the games you plan on playing

@daring beacon

[daring beacon]

minecraft, CSGO, Garrys mod, games like those

[latent bronze]

@daring beacon This is what i have come up with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3frD8M

[daring beacon]

Thank you!

[latent bronze]

np

@daring beacon For the case you have to click on the name and there will be a link for you to see what it looks like

[daring beacon]

ok

[deep skiff]

@latent bronze why not ryzen 1600/2600?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2CyKZf

or for $15 over yours https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kr78K4

[latent bronze]

Well seeing how the performance between the 2600 and 9400F is almost on par with each other and besides can't always build an AMD build

@deep skiff Always have to have options when building a system and while Ryzen is nice and don't forget the performance of the 1600 is the same as the 2400G as well

[deep skiff]

yeah but the 2600 is cheaper and has a cooler

[latent bronze]

Which is an alright cooler but still would need to be replaced if doing any overclocking to be better than the 9400F

[deep skiff]

true

[stoic schooner]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N364YTA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1THAZDOWP300U&psc=1 is this good enough to use to extent my power supply cable to the cpu input im not sure if its reliable or something

my cables are to short to reach from the back and i dont want it in the front so i just wanna make sure that this would help for a gaming setup

[agile gust]

I have never heard of the brand. I would only trust cablemods

IMO

[stoic schooner]

imo? im new to this

[agile gust]

in my opinion

[stoic schooner]

thanks im gonna look and see if its on amazon

[agile gust]

no problem.

[stoic schooner]

whats the worst that could happen if i use this one by chance?

[sudden turret]

the 2 reviews for it seem ok.

[verbal bone]

yo its my first time building a pc and my budget is around $900. I already have a good gpu (rx vega64) but i need everything else.

Any suggestions on what i should do? I intend to play games on it and like alot of hw too.

[next tangle]

@verbal bone I can help you out

@verbal bone https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G2Kqk6 there you go

[latent bronze]

@verbal bone explain what you mean by a lot of hw

[tight bone]

Hello all.
I am needing some advice.
I am needing a good desktop computer than can handle video creation and large photoshop projects, etc. What would you recommend? Or would you recommend building my own computer (haven't done it before).

[grand brook]

@tight bone I would recommend getting a higher end Processor and fast RAM (3200 or higher) at least 32GB. Video editing, rendering, etc. tends to require alot of CPU power and better quality RAM will help speed the process along. If you do not feel comfortable building your own computer I’m sure there are many prebuilts that will meet your criteria. I would also recommend getting a mid range graphics card.

[gloomy rock]

Honestly, if you get 2400-3166mhz ram it's not the end of the world, your amount of ram and processor are the biggest two

[elder canyon]

How easily is ram overclocked?

[gloomy rock]

Really easily.

[elder canyon]

Thought so

[gloomy rock]

My 3000 MHz ram is running at 3600, but I think I just got lucky with these dies

[tight bone]

Would this meet the need?

Lenovo IdeaCentre 510A Desktop
9th Generation Intel Core i7-9700 Processor 3.0 GHz
32GB DDR4 RAM
1TB SSD PLUS 1TB HDD
2GB AMD Radeon RX 550 Graphics Card
DVD-RW
Wifi 802.11AC
BlueTooth 4.1
1 x USB Type-C
2 x USB 3.0
6 x USB 2.0
1 x HDMI
1 x VGA
1 x Display Port
1 x Media Card Reader
Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit

[grand brook]

Yes that would work

[gloomy rock]

Yeah

That's a good video and photos processing machine

The 8 cores of the 9700 will help you a lot.

I would buy an extra 4tb HDD and replace or add it to the 1tb hdd

Since video and photos editing eats storage fast

[grand brook]

Yes if you are doing large projects you will want a large storage space

[tight bone]

Are there other machines that you would recommend from newegg?

[grand brook]

You could also try cloud storage if your internet connection

Is good enough

[gloomy rock]

Careful with cloud storage, monthly fees can add up to be more than the cost of hard drives over a year or two

[grand brook]

I would look for desktops that are customizable so you can add more storage, an 8 core processor and a good amount of RAM.

[gloomy rock]

And if 8 core processors are too much, get a 6 core 12 thread chip. 6 non hyper threaded cores are just not enough

My 8600k isn't bad for video editing but it's a pain if you are doing it a lot.

[tight bone]

what 4tb hdd would you recommend?

[gloomy rock]

Does the speed of the drive matter as much to you?

[grand brook]

Seagate or WD

[gloomy rock]

Also how much will you be writing to it?

Versus reading from it

@Allah I am thinking he should get a shingled drive if he's writing videos and photos once and reading from them a lot, they're much cheaper and have good read speeds

[tight bone]

I currently have a 1 TB external harddrive

You are right Allah.

writing videos and photos once and then reading from them a lot.

[gloomy rock]

Shingled drives are a good idea. It's what data centers use since they horde data

[tight bone]

what is shingled drives??

[grand brook]

Another brand i think

[gloomy rock]

It's a type of hdd

Versus parallel disc

[grand brook]

Oh

[gloomy rock]

Basically instead of the disk sectors being flat they're shingled like a roof, giving more area to read but writing to them is about 1/4 the speed

[tight bone]

So what does newegg have that you would recommend in a 4TB drive? Is it easy to install?

[grand brook]

Hard drives are generally easy to install

I would make sure your case has a drive bay or place to mount it

I made that mistake and adding an extra drive was a nightmare

[gloomy rock]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822179299

There's one for under $100

[grand brook]

You would have to check that your motherboard has the right amount of sata ports and your psu has the correct cables for it

[gloomy rock]

Yeah

But a non shingled drive is like a good $180 for 4tb, versus the 95 for that shingled one

[tight bone]

This is the computer I am thinking about purchasing. https://www.newegg.com/lenovo-ideacentre-510a-business-desktops-workstations/p/1VK-0003-116C6?Description=lenovo&cm_re=lenovo-_-9SIAE4NA6Y0773-_-Product

[gloomy rock]

And 256mb of cache means if the file is under 256mb it'll right to the fast cache then slowly write to the main drive in the background so you're not slowed down

[tight bone]

Would that computer be able to add the 4TB HDD

[gloomy rock]

It should. It's not giving me much information on the case, but 99% of full size computers have more than 1 x 3.5" drive slot

I just looked it up, that one for some reason only has 1 2.5" and 1 3.5" slot, meaning there's no room for it

[grand brook]

He could have an external drive maybe?

It would be drastically slower however

[gloomy rock]

Yeah, I'd actually replace the 1tb HDD with the 4tb one then

[grand brook]

So when you get the pc just swap out the drives

[tight bone]

What computer would you recommend from newegg?

[grand brook]

Make sure to get the windows activation key though

The computer you were looking at is fine

[tight bone]

Why do I need the windows activation key?

[grand brook]

Windows will be loaded on that 1tb drive

If you were to switch out the drives you need to reinstall it

With the key you dont need to purchase windows again

[tight bone]

okay

[gloomy rock]

You dont want a strong graphics card, right?

You're not doing any 3d rendering or hardware acceleration?

[tight bone]

I do want a strong graphics card.

[grand brook]

rx 550 not gonna cut it then

[tight bone]

I am not doing 3D rendering yet, but I may start playing around with it.

[grand brook]

I would invest in a 1660ti or maybe AMD’s Vega cards

Possibly an RTX 20 series maybe

[gloomy rock]

Alright, a "gaming" desktop would suit your needs rather well

[tight bone]

Wish desktop would you recommend that newegg offers??

[gloomy rock]

CyberpowerPC Gaming Desktop Gamer Xtreme C790T Intel Core i7 9th Gen 9700K (3.60 GHz) 16 GB DDR4 2 TB HDD 240 GB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Windows 10 Home 64-bit https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16883230417?m_ver=1

[tight bone]

I need to keep the cost below $1.8k

That's my top budget.

[gloomy rock]

This one is a very decent one for the price, I'd recommend picking out 16gb of extra ram for about $80

[grand brook]

Oh well

[little osprey]

So 1.8K for a gaming pc? Peripherals included? Do you intend to stream?

[grand brook]

No he intends to do some video editing

However he wants a strong video card

With this pc sure you could easily add another HDD

[gloomy rock]

He wants some photo editing, video editing, 3d rendering

[grand brook]

@gloomy rock does this look like a suiting pc

[tight bone]

my SSD is 500 now

The one I'm using

[gloomy rock]

What does the memory speed say?

[tight bone]

But the computer is 8 years old. That's why I'm looking to upgrade.

[grand brook]

Not sure i will check

[gloomy rock]

And see if the board has 4 ram slots since he'll need to add 2x8 gb of ram. Which is very easy to do.

[tight bone]

I know RAM and ghz and processors are important

[grand brook]

It just says DDR4

The processor is fine

[little osprey]

Looking for a pre-built?

[grand brook]

Motherboard only gives me the chipset

[gloomy rock]

Not very tech savvy @little osprey

Wants a prebuilt

[grand brook]

Looking at the images it does have 4 RAM SLOTS

But it gives you the intel stock cooler so i do not think this will be fitting

[tight bone]

I've never built a computer before. Just installed RAM, and such

[grand brook]

Unless @tight bone is comfortable installing an AIO or other cooler

[gloomy rock]

The 9700k doesn't have a stock cooler?

[grand brook]

Cooler on the image doesnt look good

Also the ratings arent very good

[gloomy rock]

The K chips don't have one because even at stock speeds they over heat on them

[little osprey]

Pre-built is a great option sometimes - would be happy to give input if wanted.

[grand brook]

@little osprey he wants some prebuilt options on newegg

Steevn on i buy power you can configure your own pc

[tight bone]

The budget is $1,8k or less

[grand brook]

I recommend you try mixing and matching on the website

[gloomy rock]

Problem is with configuration sites, they charge a pretty penny for things like 16gb of extra ram.

[tight bone]

like what Allah

[grand brook]

That is true

Like cpus and ram mostly

[gloomy rock]

Some charge $250 for a $80 kit to be added

[grand brook]

But @gloomy rock is correct the do charge more

[tight bone]

Mercy. . .

[grand brook]

I will continue to look for prebuilts for you though but alot of them are out of your price range by $100

[tight bone]

So we are back to a pre-built that maybe we can supercharge

Ok, so let's look at less than $2k

[grand brook]

Ok

This seems to fit your original budget

16 GB 3000MHZ ram

[tight bone]

So do you recommend the i7 over the AMD 8-Core Ryzen 7 ?

Or are they the same? close?

[little osprey]

Post the link itself vs the screenshot, easier for us to compare.

[gloomy rock]

Depends, do you want faster core speed or a multi-threaded chip

[swift blaze]

@tight bone I would go AMD over Intel right now in my opinion. My next build is going to be AMD

[tight bone]

Which is better for the work that I am doing on it?

[grand brook]

I think faster core speed would help with video editing but correct me if im wrong

[little osprey]

9700k/9900k vs 3700k/3900x at that budget are all options - TBH - I'd prioritize finding a reliable brand with good customer service, solid track record, and a build with quality parts. I'll look around.

[gloomy rock]

I honestly would recommend ryzen 7 for your use case because single core speed is most useful for gaming, not editing as much. Hyper threaded cores will help more

[grand brook]

I think the prebuilt a suggested is good quality for the price

It even comes with a 1TB ssd

Its also water cooled which well help when rendering large projects to keep temps down

[little osprey]

How does water cooling specifically help with that?

[grand brook]

I truly am not sure but from my experience AIOS work better than air coolers

[tight bone]

On the ABS Allah would I be able to add the 4TB HDD?

[grand brook]

But that is probably because i used stock coolers

Yes

You would steevn

[gloomy rock]

It won't. I have never used water-cooling and have had superb performance

[grand brook]

Ah

I am big stupid

[little osprey]

AIO vs top tier air cooler is more about aesthetic preference IMO. Both have pros/cons.

[gloomy rock]

AIO is more extreme overclocking where every degree matters. Good air coolers are within 4-5 degrees

Also giving less experienced people AIOs can result in dead computers. I never recommend them to beginners

[little osprey]

If you're using an AIO for real "XOC" , it's for convenience. As a generally trend, AIOs can soak more heat short term, but will lose that advantage when their liquid temp reaches max steady state temp under load.

[grand brook]

The ABS prebuilt doesnr have bays visible in the front could they possibly be in the back?

[little osprey]

How much do looks matter for this PC?

[grand brook]

Not much im sure

[gloomy rock]

^ air coolers suck air from the room, so unless the room is gonna fry air coolers may actually be better for long renders

[little osprey]

Because honestly - if we're talking pre-builts, just set price range from 1400 to 1800 or something and post a few links to what you like, we can tell you where to go from there.

[tight bone]

doesn't air cooled last longer than OIS?

[little osprey]

Yes

[gloomy rock]

Yes

[grand brook]

Yes

Do you guys know of any good air coolers

[gloomy rock]

Expensive but yes

[grand brook]

I may begin to pick up streaming and i know that uses processing power

[gloomy rock]

NHD15 is a really really good air cooler

[grand brook]

Alright thank you

[little osprey]

Noctua D15 or D15s are my preference. Best mounting bracket system IMO, not as tall as the Dark Rock Pro 4 either, but slightly noisier at higher fan RPMs.

[gloomy rock]

I've been eyeing the behemoth for a while

It's just soooo good

[grand brook]

If the cooler dimensions clash with my ram is there a work around

[gloomy rock]

NHD15 I think is made to avoid ram clashing

[little osprey]

There are about 10 or so air coolers in the same "top tier" as the D15 - I can find a comprehensive list, but to name a few - CM macho grande, scythe mugen 5?,

[grand brook]

Ill do my own research as well i just wanted some coolers for reference as to what air coolers should be like

[little osprey]

Ya, D15 has some of the best ram compatibility IME, D15s is slightly better for pcie slot compatibility. I have both, along with a DRP4.

[gloomy rock]

Look, the D15 actually has slots for high ram

It is made so that from any side the ram won't be an issue

[little osprey]

It even clears the dimm.2 riser on some Asus boards. https://puu.sh/DCOSv.jpg

[gloomy rock]

It's top 5 consumer grade air coolers

It can even cool some server chips pretty well

[little osprey]

9900k, low ambient temp, but still https://puu.sh/EgEzv.png

[tight bone]

Ok. I keep coming back to the Lenova.

Lenovo IdeaCentre 510A Desktop
9th Generation Intel Core i7-9700 Processor 3.0 GHz
32GB DDR4 RAM
1TB SSD PLUS 1TB HDD
2GB AMD Radeon RX 550 Graphics Card
DVD-RW
Wifi 802.11AC
BlueTooth 4.1
1 x USB Type-C
2 x USB 3.0
6 x USB 2.0
1 x HDMI
1 x VGA
1 x Display Port
1 x Media Card Reader
Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit

I think I will purchase this one. Then purchase the 4TB HDD I hope I can add it to the computer and not have to swap it out.

If I get this one, is the graphics card going to be adequate?

[grand brook]

Does anyone know how to link from the newegg mobile app

All i get is text

But i found a good prebuilt for @tight bone

[little osprey]

Sorry, forgot the specifics, do you intend to game and or stream? That card will not game well at a price point of 1800 or less

Here's the link https://www.newegg.com/lenovo-ideacentre-510a-business-desktops-workstations/p/1VK-0003-116C1

[tight bone]

I do video image creation.

[gloomy rock]

Hit the more options @grand brook

[grand brook]

Thank you

[little osprey]

Oh, well, 3900x is where we should be looking then.

No gaming at all?

[grand brook]

Yes ill link it

[little osprey]

Do you use any Adobe suite software like premier?

[gloomy rock]

See he said previously he was thinking of dabbling in 3d rendering @little osprey

[tight bone]

yes. Photoshop

[grand brook]

The pc comes with a 2tb hdd and a 1tb ssd

[gloomy rock]

The RX 550 just isn't enough for that

[grand brook]

The 5700XT is a great card and the 9 3900X is great

12 Core 24 THREAD

[gloomy rock]

A 5700 would even suffice for 3d rendering

[tight bone]

Which computer are you recommending Allah?

[grand brook]

Ill link it

Its a big link but it should take you there

[little osprey]

Yikes on the mobo for a 3900x, but that's kinda the norm for a pre-built.

[tight bone]

Thank you allah.

Looking now. . . .

[grand brook]

https://www.newegg.com/amp/p/N82E16883230491 a shorter link

Is an X580 chipset a thing

The Chipset is the only thing i can see

[tight bone]

What is chipset mean?

[gloomy rock]

Motherboard

[grand brook]

Some newer processors can use older chipsets if im correct

[gloomy rock]

Yep

[deep skiff]

yeah third gen ryzen can technically run on a a320 board

but wouldn't recommend

[grand brook]

Yeah

[gloomy rock]

Don't do that your vrms would fry

[grand brook]

I think the motherboard should be okay @little osprey please expand on your comment

[little osprey]

Ideally, I'd say 3900x, stock cooler ok - but investing in a D15 or equivalent is smart, quieter anyway
2x16GB 3600 MHz or 4x8GB, $240 buys 32GB b-die if you want guaranteed compatibility.
x570 aorus elite or better $200+
GTX 1660 or better, $200+
650W+ 80+ Gold PSU or better, $70+
Not super terrible case $100 - Meshify?

[tight bone]

Ok. So between these two now.https://www.newegg.com/lenovo-ideacentre-510a-business-desktops-workstations/p/1VK-0003-116C6

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883230491?item=N82E16883230491&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-gaming+desktop-_-N82E16883230491&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuZDtBRDvARIsAPXFx3Cp0h4Wr4B-DgT4QCxCKMmi5ShzBt3Z960Y7sdtdRDB378DzGuObnEaAh1_EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[little osprey]

As for the mobo in this build for a 3900x - TBH - I can't believe that's safe https://puu.sh/EsDmS/51d5ea2e40.png
IDK how the VRM components don't cook off during any sustained load
Maybe not today, or tomorrow - but a year or two down the road, not pretty

[grand brook]

Steevn here is a shortened link for convenience https://www.newegg.com/amp/p/N82E16883230491

[little osprey]

But like I said, mobo's like that in 9900k/3900x pre-builts are kinda part for the course.

[grand brook]

Also out of context how do you not strip a screw because i have a tendency to do that time to time

[gloomy rock]

Push down harder

[grand brook]

Ok

[gloomy rock]

You need more friction

It strips because it's sliding across the metal, denting it

[grand brook]

Ah

Does opening a prebuilt void its warranty

[little osprey]

A proper set of tools can help. Rosewill has nice kits, gamersnexus has a very nice kit you can get to help support them if you're into that.

[gloomy rock]

Allah

They legally can't void your warranty

But they do it anyways

[grand brook]

Thats super cool

[gloomy rock]

The Federal trade comission actually sent out notices to companies that we're putting warranty void it removed stickers that what they are doing is illegal

[grand brook]

I would like to add a second hdd

But there is no where to mount it and there are ZERO BAYS

If there are any suggestions please voice them

Some people have said to get another case but i really dont feel like doing that

[little osprey]

Would probably be easy to find a way to either just let it sit somewhere and connect it as normal, or zip tie, gotta get creative haha

[grand brook]

Um so there maybe is a slight problem with letting it sit there

The case is diagonal so it may vibrate and make an annoying sound although the fans might make it inaudible to here

The builders cable management is kinda doo doo too so i dont know what is below those unused cables

[little osprey]

Another options. https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-armer-rx308-enclosure/p/N82E16817182363

[limpid merlin]

Or get an ssd and tape it somewhere

[latent bronze]

@grand brook They do also sell 2.5" 7200RPM hard drives as well that would work in your system

[gloomy rock]

2.5

are so much more expensive

[stoic schooner]

What are the symptoms of a bent cpu socket pin or pins

[little osprey]

ouch, well you get a "no CPU detected" error on POST that may be one

of course visually confirming it is the easiest way

[latent bronze]

If the pins on the CPU is bent it wont work unless they are straight again

missing just one pin would result into it not working or shorting out the system

[stoic schooner]

I put my cpu in but slightly sled in because I put it a little bit to high but everything booted up it’s just my pc is going extremely slow even with the startup off

[little osprey]

take the cooler and cpu off and look at it

if there's nothing wrong with it, that's fortunate, and you can just reseat it and should be fine

[stoic schooner]

I’m not really good when it comes to building a pc I just fear that if I open it up again I might mess something up

[little osprey]

can't do much more damage, really

[stoic schooner]

Everything seems functional it’s just slow when it comes to signing in and booting up applications slower than before

[little osprey]

ah, i misunderstood, i thought you meant it wasn't even getting into windows

and was taking a long time for the POST, you have the cooler on the CPU with paste and it's connected to the fan header on the motherboard?

[stoic schooner]

Yes

[ebon basin]

I was wondering if there was anyone here that could help me figuring out what parts I should buy to upgrade my computer?

[polar holly]

@ebon basin What budget and application will you be using it for

[ebon basin]

Well I’m looking at around $1,000 but I’m willing to spend $1,200. and windows 10?

[polar holly]

On what application ie. gaming, photo editing, rendering, video editing, streaming

[ebon basin]

Ohh

Well I bought a prebuilt gaming PC back in 2014 and it’s the current one I’m using now with no upgrades I feel like I was over charged because even the simplest of games I couldn’t run I don’t about $900 on that but I’m interested in being able to upgrade my PC to play games like Battle field to games like total war.

[polar holly]

And how would you want the system to look

[ebon basin]

What exactly do you mean? (Sorry my ignorance in this subject)

[latent bronze]

@ebon basin what games do you plan on playing on your PC and also for GPU would you prefer AMD or Nvidia