Oh thank you so much. And as for the board for the 3600, is there any recommendations you may have?
#building-and-recc-chat
serene obsidian
vocal totem
Next question. Updating the bios got me into the installer. But I cant for the life of me find my windows key now. It's an oem version
vocal totem
Newegg
vocal totem
Physical
lime forge
its on the box
slate sun
Most times you have to register it with Microsoft for the installation key
or it will be on the box
slate sun
A copy of Windows 10 from an authorized retailer
The product key is on a label or card inside the box that Windows came in. For more info, contact the retailer that sold you Windows 10.
little osprey
Wait,if you have a physical copy of windows, don't bother installing if it's 1609 or something
slate sun
True, do the media creator for 1903 and then just pop in the key during or after installation
still roostBOT
marathdamane91#1906 has been warned
fiery sable
lol just use hwidgen
little osprey
I have like 30 keys if you want one
vocal totem
.....its it's been a long night/morning. It was a scratch off section on the CoA sticker.
slate sun
Nice 😛
I used an old Windows 8.1 Pro key I got from working at bestbuy
btw they say they stopped the upgrade program but windows 7,8 and 8.1 keys will activate 10
like for like version
slate sun
Well I need to watch for the next time you do that
I could use a key rofl
clip is missing
vocal totem
Ya. I'm still gonna be using my old pc some time.
I was looking for the card and the coa sticker looked to small to have a key on it
serene obsidian
Would this be a good combo to buy to improve my current cpu and motherboard?
agile bear
Yes
dusky shell
👍
chilly marsh
its private lmao
placid vigil
Oops
chilly marsh
i cliCK
placid vigil
I'll change
placid vigil
:P
chilly marsh
private.
placid vigil
I changed it in general
little osprey
Yo, been piecing together my build for 2 weeks now since I sold my 8350 gtx 970 setup.
Going to be using peripherals like a screen drawing tablet and 2035 powered by scarlet pro 2 and am looking into vega 56 in passthrough possibly OC'd with a cheap nvidia card as my overlay handler.
This is my PCPartpicker build so far: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FallenAsh/saved/#view=xC2jpg
Is the PSU I chose good enough for everything I've mentioned, I know it's listed as "B tier" on LTT forums but curious of more opinions.
little osprey
Bro thats crazy i used to have an 8350 and gtx 970
toxic root
I'll post this here too since I really want to get wide feedback on this:
Anyone know which 2080 super is best?
little osprey
Most likely Asus or EVGA. MSI also makes good cards
personally don’t trust certain brands due to their bios and the samsung memory scandal
Im gonna get a ROG STRIX 2080 Super Advanced
wispy shuttle
@little osprey I've never used Cougar but I'm sure it'd be okay. The last two builds I did for friends I used Seasonic Focus Golds and they have been doing fine. Can't beat their warranty.
toxic root
Ok, updated build:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/XGFr3b
(2080 super version of that gpu)
Anyone have any recommendations or notes?
agile bear
Try to get 3600 MHz ram
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Cyan#3079 has been warned
toxic root
It's my vocabulary okay sorry @still roost
little osprey
What you say, f word
toxic root
Often
little osprey
We all do
toxic root
So, then, which 3600 ram should I get
little osprey
toxic root
Didn't Samsung have a scandal about their memory
little osprey
Have fun
?
Their memory is better for overclocking and more reliable compared to Hynix or Micron.
little osprey
Go for 3600 CL 16 2x8
Thats the best price to performance and allows future upgrades
toxic root
Oh jesus uhh let me check
little osprey
toxic root
@little osprey thanks for the suggestion, looks good for a small price increase
Anything else?
little osprey
Seems right
toxic root
Thanks!
little osprey
@signal wolf Nice rig. Is that real wooden boards for the walls too? Very nice. 
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Naker-Z#2073 has been warned
signal wolf
@little osprey I guess I can't use naughty language. Yes, that's real wood. Old house, but this side of the basement has this, but it works.
vivid ocean
@signal wolf what’s your cooling setup?
I like how it blends in well with the color scheme
little osprey
Vega 56 will be EOL soon driver wise so idk if its a wise decision to get one even at the amazing prices
I'm not illiterate on pc components but I'm feeling drained and don't have the mental capacity to think of alternatives
do yall have any recommendations for alternatives under 270 new
5700 would be nice if I end up needing to spend close to 300
But I would like not to if possible
signal wolf
@vivid ocean Hey, my name Naker comes from my first name Nick last name Baker, so hopefully you're another Baker haha. I have the H100i Platinum in white. The cooler itself only comes with 2 of the white LL120's, but I already had 6 of those fans from before I had the cooler, so I just added them to the other side for a highly unnecessary quad fan setup. I opted toward mounting it to the front for more of a cool air intake idea vs the top fans where warmer air is exhausted out, so I had plenty of room for 4 fans.
vivid ocean
@signal wolf Ha! That’s a pretty clever play on words, it works! My name is a nickname, been called Baker most of my life. So in a way I’m another baker.
I really like your setup. I’m not usually a fan of white builds. It usually looks like a hybrid of a storm troop and sterile lab to me. Perhaps it’s lighting that really sells it. It just works. Good job!
signal wolf
Thanks, @vivid ocean , I appreciate that especially because I've never made a build on my own before this one. It took me months to really find the right combination of lights and colors to make it stand out. Every fan has a base of cyan, orange, purple, and pink, and for each fan I rotate the color scheme 90 degree, and then have two loops of color shifting cyan and purple and orange and pink over the top to give it a more randomized look. It's really something to see in person, I think.
vivid ocean
I bet!
chilly marsh
hey guys
i might be getting a laptop for school this year, could any of you recommend a decent one under 300?
full swift
Well if its just writing documents and stuff get a chromebook
chilly marsh
alright
little osprey
Used Vega AMD laptop or chromebook
But you can't do much on Chromebooks and Google's had many recent issues of selling user data for their financial benefit.
Thinkpads are also solid and can easily run linux which will lend you the same overall speed of chrome os since both're based on the same underlying kernel. You can find Thinkpads cheap on ebay these days with no os or no harddrive, also gives you a chance to add an ssd.
Their 11 inch ones are awesome.
chilly marsh
could you send links
little osprey
Throw an ssd in that, put fedora linux on it
has 8gb of ram and an i7 from a few years ago
chilly marsh
no os, too much w0rk
little osprey
Lazy but aight
little osprey
Nah I aint done
Same thing with linux
^Newer one with an ssd, linux, 8gb of ram and is thinner
have fun
Windows alternative for the exact price you asked
@chilly marsh
chilly marsh
the acer looks pretty good
gloomy rock
@chilly marsh What level of schooling are you doing? If it's college level you're most likely going to need a machine that runs max OS or windows.
chilly marsh
im in highschool rn, though this year im a junior
fossil hedge
the environment for so long has been minulpated to fit the needs of the population, I think it is time to minulpated the population to benefit the environment .
dusky shell
👌
little osprey
Can someone take a look at this setup I have planned out and tell me if I’m missing anything or if there is anything wrong with it?
@little osprey Looks pretty good.
brittle sail
@little osprey you’re graphics card is missing the “ti” on the end
forest zealot
id wait for the super
little osprey
I’m trying to keep it under 1500 @brittle sail
agile galleon
hey guys im trying to find a mother board that supports intel gen 7 processors but also supports above 3000mhz or ram can anyone help me find something
little osprey
What are you using it for? Do you already have an 7th gen chip only? or is it in a build
agile galleon
so i have a b250m pro 4 motherboard with teh i5 7600k in it with 8 gb of ram but i wanna get stronger ram
but my board doesnt support it
little osprey
Do you mostly game?
agile galleon
yea mostly
little osprey
Why do you want faster ram? Wanna run a userbenchmark to show us your specs?
Regardless, I don't think upgrading the mobo/ram just for ram speed is worth the cost. But if you want to do it for fun to overclock the 7600k and some new ram, sure.
agile galleon
my ram rn is 2133mhz and only 8 gb. so its pretty slow atm
fossil hedge
ram speed rarely matters, without ryzen. ryzen seems to be able to support higher speeds.
fluid raven
fathom rivet
i have an fx 8350. in order to upgrade i will need a new mother board a new cpu and new ram. any suggestions of where to look first?
cunning wadi
@fathom rivet I would try finding the CPU u want first then finding compatible motherboards and then ram
vernal dirge
@vapid swallow switch the CPU.
An i3 will definitely not go well with a 1070.
Motherboard is more of a pain than CPU.
Of course, if it’s an older Mobo, then you might need to replace it too.
Also, you can find out what CPU you have by downloading Speccy or HWMonitor.
vapid condor
ok have a question. I have a i7 4790k with a gaming 7 gigabyte z97, and 16 gb ddr3 corsair vengeance ram. is upgrading to a amd 3600x and a x570 aorus pro wifi, 16gb ddr4 gskill ripjaw 3000 cl15 a good upgrade for gaming?
crimson fox
@vapid condor what's the gpu?
vapid condor
1070 ti
worn peak
F u
mental ferry
thats not very nice
worn peak
I was Joling XD
thin tree
crimson fox
@vapid condor that's a very well balanced upgrade yea.
vapid condor
ok ty, and one more thing is that worth the 670ish it would cost?
whole flint
I need help finding a good graphics card for my first PC build I already have every other part I just dont know what would go well with it. I have a ryzen 5 2600x on a Asus rog strix b450 f gaming mobo with 16 gig vengeance ram. It'll primarily be used for playing games like Apex or COD
lime forge
@whole flint whats ur budget for the graphics card
whole flint
Probably are 250
lime forge
ok hold on
vapid swallow
Does an m.2 work without screws? I’m getting a screw but not today and I really wanna fire this pc up
lime forge
EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti SC ULTRA GAMING, 06G-P4-1667-KR, 6GB GDDR6, Dual Fan, Metal Backplate https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16814487446?m_ver=1
@vapid swallow dont leave it hanging
not a good idea
@whole flint you can do the discount and the rebate card for that
whole flint
@lime forge I wouldn't mind going a little over budget anyways. Thanks
lime forge
ah ok
if you dont wanna go over budget the 1660 is a great choice
the 1660ti is what i sent the link to which is a bit better
round river
Say your cpu is bottlenecking your GPU
But then you OC your cpu
Would it still be bottlenecking the GPU as much as it was before the overclock?
raven remnant
Hey I actually am having a bit of trouble here. I got a ROG STRIX 470 and popped a 3700x into it. Everything lit up; however the CPU fan failed to spin and the DRAM Lit up. I tried different RAM (Ripjaw 3000) but no beeps were sounding even when I totally removed them. I then attempted to remove the CPU (stock wraith cooler) to find that the thermal paste had formed a sticky bond with the CPU, bending a few prongs on its removal. I was lucky enough to get a return for the 3700x but the board isn’t giving me any indication that it works otherwise. When I put all the components back in with the CPU (moderately repaired, but I’m not exactly holdingout that it would work) nothing would light up anymore - the on-button being completely unresponsive. The RGB lighting along the edges of the MB still work but nothing else, reacts.
sudden turret
need to check the QVL of ram for that motherboard.
raven remnant
I think it supports 2400-3200
However I got the power to be responsive and am back to where the CPU fan turns on at boot but then immediately shuts off with the DRAM orange LED on, no beeps
little osprey
@balmy canopy oof, have fun cleaning that mouse.
balmy canopy
I will
I love keeping stuff clean 😃
@little osprey I am trying to see if I could paint the normal bottom row to match
little osprey
i see
balmy canopy
I sanded the whole bottom row and masked them off, I just need matte white paint to paint it
little osprey
gotcha
little osprey
o
mental ferry
tell me how i bought a prebuilt with a 1660 an they put in a 2060 XDD
little osprey
@mental ferry Really? nice little 16% FPS increase. https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060-6GB-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1660-Ti/4034vs4037
mental ferry
yea dude big mistake but better for me
balmy canopy
Damn nice
brazen imp
@mental ferry send the link lmao
mental ferry
the total on pc part picker came out to about $715.85 so ig ur rite abt that one
i got it for 5 dollars off lol
brazen imp
pcpartpicker
doesn't have updated prices
for some reason
or ig it does. apparently the 2600 went back up in price by $10
sudden turret
you can't say it's a rip off if it is a pre-built.
yeah it's going to cost more, you're having someone build it for you.
mental ferry
agreed
mental ferry
paying for labor
brazen imp
$750 and you dont even get 16gb of ram?
mental ferry
yea thats probably my only gripe
brazen imp
That's what bothers me the most lmao
but look at what I sent you
same price & lot better
If people talk about "labor price"
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TNV Phase#5950 has been warned
brazen imp
oops
mental ferry
not much btter
brazen imp
that best be cappin at $50
wdym not much ebtter
ryzen 5 3600, more ram too
I could've upgraded the gpu over the cpu but thats preference
also you get a 1tb harddrive along with 500gb ssd
well 480 but close enough
mental ferry
ram is easily upgradeable and the 3600 isnt gonna make a very big dfference
mental ferry
not very big
mental ferry
may i ask y r u so consistent in trying to prove me wrong? i simply said they put in a better gpu than the one i was supposed to receive, ur argument is very one sided.
brazen imp
Im not saying your computer sucks
Im saying this one is better than the one being sold in that link specifically
Not your specific pc
but if that was actually a 1660 and 8gb of ddr4
its definitely not worth it
mental ferry
yea ik wut ur trying to say but u have to take labor fees into consideration id have to agree completely that i can probably build a slightly better pc than the one i have now but the possibility of messing sumthing up as sumone who is inexperienced as myself is greater than buying a prebuilt
regardless i respect ur opinion and i saw that we can agree to disagree
say
brazen imp
I was nervous when I built my first one
I was about 8?
or something
It was just me, youtube and my cousin who came in when I was done to say "Did you f*** it up?"
yeesh
He built them before
sudden turret
@mental ferry some people just can't stand prebuilts for some reason.
mental ferry
@sudden turret its ok it happens
brazen imp
I have a prebuilt @sudden turret
and I regret it to this day
and I want no one to make the same mistake I did
Did it when 1060s were like $350+
mental ferry
i thought we were done with this debate lol
brazen imp
Well he said "Some people just can't stand prebuilts for some reason."
cedar crane
Anyone here have experience with EK kits? Any good ? Looking at the small one for my ITX build.
sudden turret
yes
I have the fluid gaming 240a
added the swiftech gpu block and another 120 rad
but it a great little kit.
sudden turret
I got some 90 degree alum fittings as well, haven't installed them yet.
uh, I'd say all year
no issues.
no leaks.
sudden turret
it was my very first time playing with an actual loop
cedar crane
But now I found EK Gaming and I like their smallest setup
sudden turret
and I had zero trouble.
cedar crane
I'm hoping later on they had a plate for the 5700xt
sudden turret
everything is bagged, labeled.
if you have any common sense you can't really F it up.
cedar crane
Nice, good to know
sudden turret
came packaged really well.
I've always liked ekwb.
but if you're going small form , I would suggest getting some of those 90 degree fittings.
sudden turret
it'll help with the tubing, going the way you want, since it's ITX.
but then again maybe not, I dunno your lay out.
sadly the kit doesn't come with them, that's why I suggest getting 2 just incase. they're cheap
sudden turret
hm where would pump go..
cedar crane
I saw someone had it close to the front
cedar crane
I believe front and top support rads
So I could put it front
Just idk where the res would go
cedar crane
Yeah
Im def going that route
How much liquid did you need Iam? I wanna get white ⚪
sudden turret
it comes with a bottle of cryo-fuel 😃
cedar crane
There is no white 
sudden turret
you could always https://www.newegg.com/p/2YM-000N-00069
round river
I was live streaming on YouTube and playing Overwatch but no matter what I do, the frame are would always be around 40 FPS
I have a 4770K and a 1050ti
Or could it be my internet
Btw if I’m not streaming, it can run Overwatch at a constant 60 FPS
cedar crane
@sudden turret You used one bottle of that stuff?
sudden turret
i forget the mix ratio
stray imp
any opinions about this?
I got a dude from reddit to do this for me and its also my first pc for a budget of $1000
mental ferry
not bad in my op
gusty sun
Looking for a case recommendation
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145091?Item=N82E16813145091 this is my motherboard and i have a GeForce GTX 1060 6GB I got in like 2015 or 16 I dont remember
I'd like the case to have a dust filter or two
brazen imp
@stray imp I'd run a 3600x instead if I were you
@gusty sun If you're looking for budget, DIYPC cases & Rosewill (totally not a newegg plug) are pretty nice
higher end case I really like the h700i or h500 series
@round river you should probably try using NVENC rather than your CPU encoding software on OBS
modest warren
Currently having trouble on how to install the wifi antenna connectors for the motherboard inside the case. Case is Phanteks Eclipse 350x in case you are curious.
lime forge
usually you screw them on to the golden threaded things near the rest of the i/o
modest warren
You mean these on the wifi chip?
lime forge
waaaaiiiittt
ive actually never heard of m.2 wifi before
sorry
but it looks like there might be something here?
modest warren
Yes, that is correct
lime forge
what does your antenna look like?
lime forge
those connectors definitely connect to the thing i pointed out earlier im just not sure how
prisma trail
modest warren
Ok. I'll try it. I just had the motherboard installed in the case just now.
urban adder
man I just cant figure out what kind of ddr4 ram I should get for a zen 2 build. what speed... cas latency.. I am aiming for gaming fps but price/performance is also something to consider
little osprey
Try CAS 16 3600mhz
lime forge
cas 16 3200 is also great
shy coral
Just curious if this is a good build to run the game rust? @here wasn’t sure where to post/ask
modest warren
Almost done with this build. I gave up working on the wifi antenna and I have no one to help me install it. 😦
sturdy narwhal
Just installed these fans, as well as Sunday afternoon moved cases from a Corsair Carbide Spec-04, to a Thermaltake P3. What do you think?
sudden turret
@modest warren are there not instructions that come with the mobo, for the wifi install.
modest warren
Yes, I read the instructions. I tried installing the connectors on the wifi card. They couldn't connect properly and whenever I do, they come off.
calm spire
@shy coral how much are they asking? I dont recommend it. Only because games are evolving. This will not continue to be able to run games. What is you budget if you dont mind me asking?
shy coral
He wants 200 for that build and my budget depends on the build anything under 800 basically @calm spire
sudden turret
@modest warren theyy take some finese, you'll hear it snap in when they do.
might can try and take the card out, lay it flat, and use the tip of a flat head to press down.
uneven glade
Has anyone else had problems with the Asrock AM4 B450 Pro 4
little osprey
Does the orientation on the power switch and restet swith matter, if so how do I know which way its supposed to go. The only thing to tell is a small arrow.
lime forge
the arrow indicates the positive side
check your motherboard manual to see the proper orientation of the pins and stuff
little osprey
Shouldn't matter for power and reset if they're just two pins each. I think they're both "normally open" contacts.
As long as you connect to the correct two pins for each.
Alright, thanks... these cables both look black and its hard for me to be able to tell a difference at all
Follow up, is it alright/expected to put more than one fan on a fan port on the motherboard?
Depends how you do it and how your fans are wired, but yes. Unless your fans draw 1 amp each or something. What fans?
Case fans
Standard old deep cool case fans
4 pin connectors
Are you using some kind of splitter?
Yeah
I think so anyways
You want a splitter that will still send the 4th pin, the blue wire/pwm signal, to the fan, but only send one fan's 3rd pin, the yellow/rpm signal back to the mobo.
Alright then, definitely not a splitter :/
Not a huge deal if the splitter links up all the tach/rpm signals, it'll just show in your mobo as the rpm of each times x number of fans.
I mean, I'd guess most 4 pin splitters just don't connect the tach wire on all but one fan. I think* that's how nzxt does it on their krakens.
I have enough space to hook them up separately, but in the future the guy that I'm helping build this with is gonna buy another one to fill in a 4th slot that I dont think the mobo has
TBH, it's far easier when all the fans are on the same port, as long as that works with your cooling setup. I have 4 140mm case fans wired that way.
Then I just had the rear 140mm copy the cpu fan's pwm signal for speed
But if you want more granular control, then sure, put each on its own MB fan header
I'll drop a picture of what we think is the splitter in build pics if you want, and we know they all hook up to that if need be
It may take a few to send it though
If you look inside these ends, is one pin missing on all but one header? https://puu.sh/DZZwc/6d0703205d.png
Nope, all 4 are there
It's a pretty minor issue, this is pretty far down the list of builds worries tbh, like I said, the worst that'll happen is that rpm will show 2-3-4x higher. But if you're a perfectionist, I can still help you figure it out haha
Alright, so it'll work but its gonna have the rpm stuff
Maybe, tbh I'd guess that splitter in the pic somehow just doesn't connect more than one tach wire. This should be easy to test
oak night
little osprey
Between $600 and enough to buy a nice car
urban adder
So my new build I am looking at going to nvme any recommendations on a good one? Looking at 1-2tb in size maybe a raid 1
urban adder
yes x570
crimson fox
gen 4 pcie
two versions; 1tb and 2tb
I just bought the 1tb version myself
it's expensive yea, but worth it for an x570 build
little osprey
What budget @urban adder ? What's your planned use?
urban adder
I used to seperate OS and APP/Gaming drives but this time I am thinking of combining it and running a raid 1 for resiliency
crimson fox
lol, do raid 1 of two 2tb mp600's
urban adder
im not spending 1k on 2 hard drives
thats jsut stupid
If my job required that kind of speed I could justify it but not for gaming lol
crimson fox
i agree with you fully
but otherwise if you wanted pcie gen 3, i'd always recommend a samsung 970 evo
there's plenty of good ssd's out there but my fav is samsung
urban adder
yeah i got a 2.5" samsung that work very well in my pc right now.
been pretty happy with it
little osprey
@urban adder I'd say go 1-2TB windows boot somewhere between a 660p on the low end to a 970 pro 1TB then additional drives for data
Really depends on your use case and budget
crimson fox
same, i've upgraded about 5 computers in the past year with either 850 evo's or 860 evo's
very happy with them
little osprey
haha I'm a big samsung ssd fan myself, but a lot of competition like the 1TB 660p QLC drive for $85, the 1TB Inland TLC for $105, and stuff like the wd black and HP ex920 are good competition.
urban adder
yeh those intel 660p's have a crazy good price
prolly will end up with a samsung given how long i expect to keep the pc
crimson fox
you might want to message the general chat
lime forge
coarse coral
@zealous crest ▶️ 9. No e-begging, or selling on this server.
maiden eagle
Heya- could anyone recommend RAM that would be compatible with this PC?
I saw some people saying some RAM had issues with RYZEN. https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883230369?item=N82E16883230369
little osprey
That pc isn't ryzen @maiden eagle and yes the first 2 generations of ryzen have issues with ram over ddr4 @ 3000mhz with 3200 being their best overall performance since it scales with the rams addition and 3600 with 14 timings being faster
The most that system could handle unless the motherboard could do more is ddr4@1866mhz
The fx 4 series would've been better than 6, 6 and 8 core fx were fake cores and actually only 4 core logistically
urban adder
compact cove
Alright boys and girls
I've got a budget of 1500
How can I get 240hz capability?
144hz is still good too, I know there's not much difference
little osprey
one sec, I'll hook you up w some pcpartpicker
steady breach
@compact cove what resolution?
compact cove
1920x1080
Native HD res
I'll be doing 1440x1080 in some games as well
I'll mainly be playing BRs so Fortnite, PUBG, Blackout etc etc
steady breach
Cool
steady breach
Here’s a build
Maybe tweak it around a bit
Bc I would say Ryzen is better for rendering and multi core things while intel is better for gaming
pulsar garnet
@coarse coral help
little osprey
@compact cove Change the SSD he put to m.2
Ram timings are a bit high for 3200, would get 3600 at 16 CAS, cpu is good, that case is horrible to mess with side panels (From personal experience), GPU is good but overkill on the wattage which is fine but I would shoot for a platinum psu at that price range and instead of the x470 pro I would go for a taichi on sale since it has better bios updates, also if you want the performance of the 2070 for less then get a 5700XT when the AIB versions come out in mid august (2 weeks)
Taichi not on sale anymore, scratch that part lol
but you could keep an eye out if you wait for the 5700XT
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Va#0001 has been warned
little osprey
Lol, the f word
Pathetic
Anyway
@compact cove At any form of 1080p even an RX590 would be sufficient, though I dont recommend it for your budget. I would ask what hz the monitor is but you're offline so I can't really.
I used a gtx 970 at 2560x1080 for 4 years.
Which is technically weaker than a 590 for example
lemme hook you up, one sec
You also don't seem like the type to overclock and aren't going to benefit literally at all from pci gen 4, so I don't think you need any of the higher spec mobos, especially if your ram isn't going to be super high end like royal;
compact cove
I'm here
little osprey
Ok, few questions then B
compact cove
Sorry it shows me as offline when I close out
little osprey
fair
compact cove
Shooting for 240hz, if not 144hz will more than suffice
Shooting for at least 180+ fps
little osprey
Do you plan to OC
compact cove
If possible
compact cove
But I don't want to overclock and run the possibility of bottlenecking
little osprey
lol
hmmmmm
Do you care about the look of the build?
OK
@compact cove You decide BUT this build gets you the following at only $36 more than the build they sent you previous
-MUCH better CPU that won't need upgrading possibly for a long time
-CPU cooler that is about 3db quieter than an AIO with less parts to fail
-Double the ram in dual channel
-An M.2 SSD (about 4-5x as fast as the SSD included in the first one due to PCI M.2 vs Sata3
-Same speed GPU (144hz 1080p on ultra)
-Breathable case from reliable company with tempered glass
-Platinum PSU with high end capacitors.
And it's all based around a black aesthetic without costing any extra, so you could place some rgb led's inside (or fans) and accent all the parts no matter what color leds you choose
The mobo does have red on it tho
That is one of the highest end systems money can buy rn and with drivers it'll only get better over time for both the cpu and gpu
That cpu is the highest one on the market as of current (9900k being slightly better for gaming but significantly hotter and costing hundred+ more)
And I chose the 3200mhz ram over 3600 due to the timings being around 20 for 3600 rn
enjoi
coarse coral
@pulsar garnet ?
little osprey
@compact cove Also that's the fastest m.2 ssd on pci gen 3 being sold atm
3500 read 3000+ write
pulsar garnet
@coarse coral somebody sent porn but it got deleted. I think another mod saw it.
little osprey
@compact cove Hmu w/ your thoughts on it and if you need any more help my dude.
pulsar garnet
@coarse coral send pics
little osprey
steady breach
@little osprey thanks for the tips
And hey, why not tridentz rgb 3200 mhz 16 gigs? Save 50$ and rgb
Also, that’s way better than my build, good job
little osprey
@steady breach Thanks and because I picked 32gb vs 16gb, rgb would've been nice but it was a $20 price jump
little osprey
I'd honestly say if he could put an extra hundred towards it to just get royals with lower timings at 3200
but it's like 2-4fps
little osprey
Ryzen outperforms for the price
and the intel vs amd difference is 10fps
with the 9900k vs 3900x
steady breach
Cool
little osprey
Plus the amd one outperforms in almost every multi core scenario
steady breach
Ok then
compact cove
@little osprey yeah man any way that I can get the best performance for the least amount of money
My budget isn't really flexible
I'm not going to waste money on RGB lol its pointless and does nothing to enhance performance
still roostBOT
Va#0001 has been warned
little osprey
Lmao the S h i word
RIP
Does RustWhateverthatis even still have players
doubt
anyway hmu if you want in future bruh
compact cove
Yeah definitely
What kind of fps and hz can I get with these specs
Intel 6-Core i7-8700 3.2GHz | 32GB DDR4 RAM | 512GB PCIe SSD Boot + 1TB HDD | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB
I might go 16 gb on the ram and get a better graphics card
I really don't know much about computers and I really want to ensure I'm getting the best possible for my money because 1500 is a big hit for me
little osprey
1060 would hinder you a lot
The system I sent you legitimately is the best you'll get without waiting for price drops on intel (Which might not happen)
compact cove
Yeah but my budget is firm
little osprey
At 1500 tho correct?
compact cove
Yeah
I gotta keep money set aside for a good monitor though
Gonna go used to get a better deal
Seen some 240hz for like 200
little osprey
ok cause 1060 is a budget card, 8700 isn't overclockable and has half the cores, pci ssd's are a quarter of the speed compared to m.2pci
compact cove
144hz for like 100
little osprey
240hz isn't achievable at your price range with a monitor as well
especially since you wanna do streaming n stuff
I mean we could hook you up with a bad lil ryzen 3 2 series and get you a super good gpu, but you could p much only enjoy gaming
no video editing, no photo editing really
cause the cpu will be such low spec
possible but not fun or optimal
I'll cut you some corners my g
little osprey
lol
compact cove
None of that lol strictly gaming
little osprey
strictly, aight
@compact cove What type of monitor
16:9, 16:10, 21:9?
I know 1080 or 1440p, which?
And does it need built in speakers
compact cove
16:9 most likely, not really gonna be playing at resolutions that would require a higher aspect ratio
And nah I'm gonna be wearing headphones majority of the time
little osprey
What screen size?
compact cove
25-27 the most
little osprey
almost done
This one isn't actually $1528
It's $1480 or so
Buy the cpu and motherboard together at microcenter and get $50 off
that brings it down
I did that with my build like 2 weeks ago
My build uses the same cpu
Since you wanna game, that cpu can game and do a lot more if you want without costing an extra 200+ for things YOU won't use.
And there's no risk of it bottlenecking the 5700xt
To compare, it's more powerful (With 2 less cores) than the ryzen 7 2700x
And that monitor is IPS, meaning the most accurate colors you can get in that price range, 144hz, 1ms response time, LG panel (What I use as well on my ultrawide) and ye
Ryzen doesn't really NEED to be overclocked, if its cooled correctly it "Overclocks" itself
Hence the dark rock 4, but that's the non pro model since you wouldn't be using as insane of a cpu as the 12 core beast I put in the first one
The 5700Xt btw compared to that measly 1060 you had mentioned, is an extra 5gb of ram on a newer architecture with the possibility for increased performance with time and through future motherboards you could upgrade to while remaining as fast as a 2070 out of the box currently.
That'll get around 200fps in Battle Royal games at 1080p on high to ultra, depending on the title of course.
and that monitor has freesync
so it'll sync up with the gpu
Hope I helped again
At most if you wanted 2 extra cores and a better cpu cooler you could go with the 2700x from the previous generation, but you'll lose around 15% performance for the 2 extra cores.
actually hol up
one more improvement
compact cove
Wow bro you're really knowledgeable
little osprey
Dankes
That build will be the best price to performance
Comes with a beefy cooler, no need to get an extra one
compact cove
There wouldn't be compatiblity issues?
little osprey
Slower m.2 SSD
No
Get the motherboard and cpu at microcenter
will bring it down to $1480 or so
compact cove
Bet bet
compact cove
Damn bro that's a solid build
Is it true that if you only have 144hz refresh rate that anything higher than 144 fps is pointless?
little osprey
P much, I mean up to personal preference but 240hz monitors aren't even achievable with gpu's at your price point
especially since you have to also buy a monitor and they cost more
Have you tried 144hz?
little osprey
I tried 144hz at microcenter
compact cove
Looked like and felt like butter
little osprey
Planning to upgrade my ultra wide to 144hz next.
Lol
I would wait til a few years from now for 240hz to come down in price and gpu's to get even better.
You could run 240hz tho on medium to high in most moba's or battle royals with that setup
^
compact cove
They let me play a couple matches of Fortnite on their computer they had set up to the monitor
Dude the build was godly
It was a $6000+ build and the monitor was like 600
little osprey
PFFFF
compact cove
It was pushing almost 800 fps
compact cove
I always play on low settings to push for higher fps and better performance
little osprey
$600 GAMING EXTREME MONITOR
Oh, if that's the case
this setup will get like 400+fps on LOW
lol
compact cove
Idc about the game "looking better" I'm just concerned about it running smoothly and not being choppy
Yeah my buddy said the same thing
Anywhere from 300-400
little osprey
ye
compact cove
On high settings how many fps you think I'll get
compact cove
Still not bad at all
compact cove
Fortnite isn't really that demanding of a game
compact cove
Pls
little osprey
Here's low
he gets around 340-500
3:30 minutes in +
He shows it gets on ULTRA 180fps
in pubG
More demanding than fortnite
Epic settings on fortnite he gets 127fps
That's the absolute highest settings and draw distance
and since you play on low, I'd recommend high for you on fortnite
Medium to high mixed on PubG
Ultra on LoL
ye
little osprey
Beast: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zFyqKB
Bang for the buck: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CRDkCb
There's the two links if you lost em
😉
compact cove
I'm gonna bookmark these pages
uneven glade
Yo my pc is broke 😂
compact cove
Yo dude you should consider doing a PC building service
You're insanely knowledgeable
little osprey
I normally just pick out the part lists for free.
Might consider in future tho for sure.
Built around 10 of my friends pc's, one physically and my family's
I just always try to stay informed with specs.
And watch tons of performance vids
so I'm like NZXT's BLD service if it were a person lmao
Thanks again
uneven glade
My pc worked for a few days and then all of the sudden... it crashed and would only boot up into the BIOS over and over again without trying to go into windows
And now it along even show anything on the screen
little osprey
Do you have 2-4 sticks of ram or just one
uneven glade
I did
little osprey
oof
uneven glade
It didn’t work
little osprey
You tried both separately?
little osprey
Do you use display port?
uneven glade
No HDMI
little osprey
hmmm
little osprey
Yes
compact cove
Just wanna save where I can
dusky shell
I have that monitor and it's pretty cool
uneven glade
It could be the PSU because it’s from a prebuilt I bought a while ago and it’s a 450W
uneven glade
And god only knows how old it is
little osprey
@uneven glade I was thinking that
uneven glade
So I’m going to buy a 500W
little osprey
Get a seasonic gold for like 80 rn
just bought the last one on amazon myself lol
brought the price up to 100
compact cove
No sir
uneven glade
I’m running a 2700X with a 1060 6gb 3000mz DDR4
little osprey
That's like 400w on full load if that
uneven glade
It ran like a dream
little osprey
I'd shoot for a 550w
uneven glade
And yeah I really needed the upgrade anyway
little osprey
just to be safe
esp if you have lots of peripherals
hopefully it didn't fry anything
uneven glade
I have 2 monitors and like my mouse and keyboard
compact cove
Will the builds you sent me support 250 ohms for my headset or should I go for 80 ohms?
I'm finna get beyerdynamic dt990s
uneven glade
And RGB light strips and RGB fans etc 😂
little osprey
No computer supports 250 ohms on its own
compact cove
I'd need an amp
compact cove
Ye
coarse coral
dac
compact cove
80 ohms is good too
compact cove
I have astro a40s TRs rn
uneven glade
Oh btw I need a monitor for around 150-180 ish
compact cove
Really wanna upgrade
little osprey
@compact cove ew gaming headphones lol
compact cove
I don't have an external mic so I settled for the Astros
little osprey
compact cove
Got em second hand off Mercari for $60
little osprey
If you get the cpu/mobo from microcenter that'll be $1502
That's a 240hz dell monitor as well
(Alienware is dell now)
compact cove
Ye
little osprey
It also has freesync so it'll sync up with the gpu
compact cove
i social engineered a laptop from AW
uneven glade
Omg
little osprey
$1500's a mid level since he had to get a monitor
$11-1200 for the system I picked
uneven glade
Yee
little osprey
his monitor choice was a lot lol
uneven glade
I spent about 800 on mine I think
little osprey
Here's my previous build and current one
compact cove
Ye if I didn't have to get a monitor I'd strictly allocate 1500 for the build
little osprey
2015
Sold that for $400 about 2 weeks ago
Used for 4 years
Current build wip
love everything about it so far
same price but over 200% performance gains in a lot of cases
uneven glade
Nice
little osprey
Did splurge on the case tho
Would've got a better cpu if I didn't want that case.
but 3600 is lit
uneven glade
Do you happen to know about a 144hz monitor that’s pretty cheap?
little osprey
The cheapest is around $220 if you want good quality
if not then a TN panel might run around $150
I'd also go for the korean ones if you're willing
I have an older video on that
one sec
still relevant tho
uneven glade
Ok
uneven glade
Yeah
little osprey
This will be more recent and relevant
uneven glade
6gb
uneven glade
Oh cheap are they? And our they worth it for the price?
little osprey
mispelled, mb lol
little osprey
Very worth it
only thing you have to worry about is sometimes a single dead pixel
rarely
But in that case they have warranty's
They're often LG or Samsung panels
But in a cheaper housing since they're right next to china and can get metal's for cheap
Bruh I don't care tbh, I use name brand korean monitor's rn and will in future more than likely upgrade to the korean off brands when I move there.
A panel's a panel
just like there's only 3 manufacturers of ram
so not much reason to care bout the brand, just the results
uneven glade
But it’s going to take like 3 months to get to my house tho
little osprey
Depends on where you get it from
Ebay/Amazon, 2 weeks or less
Alibaba or anywhere chinese, 1-2 months
korean sellers a month or so
we have cheap import taxes on korea
Pixio is the most name brand korean company
for monitors that's not actually name brand
uneven glade
Yeah. Anything in the price range of like $159-$200 or so?
little osprey
not sure
havent looked at korean monitor prices in a year
just keep up with their specs
check ebay for good pricing
I'm outtie boys, but I'll pop back in sometime to do more builds for the defenseless lmao
Time to smonk
dusky shell
uneven glade
lol
compact birch
i would like to do that for my mom some day
pulsar garnet
Better move faster, Newegg, or I'm gonna light a fire under your bum
compact birch
she plays wow with here friends and the pc is a hand me down from her ex and is from 2008ish
pulsar garnet
Lol cute
compact birch
not sure of the specs though
pulsar garnet
My mom mostly uses it for Netflix and YouTube and internet browsing and my little brother uses it for Minecraft and Roblox
compact birch
well she also plays sims 4
pulsar garnet
Her current PC is like an i5-7400 CPU and 4GB RAM or something
compact birch
maybe
pulsar garnet
I'm not sure what the CPU is, but it's integrated graphics, over priced, and under powered
compact birch
well she's plagued with random lag spikes especially in pvp and the pc is a custom build
pulsar garnet
Gotta make her a new one huh
compact birch
gotta get a new job 7.70 isnt paying anything im barly able to afford a 4tb hd
pulsar garnet
Dang :/
compact birch
ive applied to a few 14hr jobs so hopefully thosework out
pulsar garnet
Good luck
> 
balmy canopy
What if you route the pcie power cables above and through the same hole the 24 pin atx cable goes through
coarse coral
cedar crane
Anyone got any inside info on 3900x restocking 
pulsar garnet
@cedar crane buy f a s t
hazy seal
Yep—- buy Intel
hazy seal
Isn’t fast??
cedar crane
😴
pulsar garnet
You have to buy f a s t
pulsar siren
Any recommendations for a good case? Looking to build a ryzen 3900x/rtx 280ti system so want something that will look as good as it will run
cedar crane
Depends on what you're looking for Brycer
Im a big NZXT person and their stuff is usually really good
I run a H500 now and just bought a H210i for my next build, my buddy has the PUBG H700 also
pulsar siren
I like what I’ve seen of the NZXT, the choices have changed since my last build before kids were born, if this was 14 years ago I’d already know exactly what I want
sudden turret
Thermaltake lvl 20 series.
pulsar siren
Oh I like that one too, I just checked and the case I had added to my wish list for my build to show my wife was the H500i
hazy seal
If I could afford that lvl 20... totally would..
Says out of stock on Newegg and probably won’t be back in stock
pulsar siren
My last build I used a gigabyte aurora and I love that case but it want the ps mounted below and glass on the side not mesh
hazy seal
I am happy with my lian Li case... it’s sexy
pulsar siren
Just took a peek I really like the LIAN LI PC-O11... I’ll have to check reviews
hazy seal
It’s an amazing case
pulsar siren
If you were going balls out would ya go 2080ti or SLI 2080 supers?
placid vigil
There meant for getting rid of money?
lime forge
no
theyre used for professional level computer aided design
or CAD for short
or for CGI like in movies
and just other professional creative work
placid vigil
The getting rid of money was a joke but ok
lime forge
...
pulsar garnet
If you're gaming just get a 5700 XT lol
forest zealot
Ltt has gone over that argument so many timea
Quadros arent meant for gaming but the can kick major butt anyway
forest zealot
Thats clearly not of concern if 2080 supers in sli were a option
forest zealot
"If you were going balls out"
forest zealot
lime forge
what about it
forest zealot
Third row is avg bench
lime forge
ok
have your opinions
sure, it is faster
i just can justify the price increase
for gaming
lime forge
yeah, that too
forest zealot
Its the same chip as the titan
lime forge
forest zealot
Its literally a titan with more memory are you trying to say the titan sucks at gaming
deep skiff
also you cant find a single gaming benchmark for quadro 8000 so you cant prove its good or bad
forest zealot
You can find a bench with the titan
lime forge
ok so it is the same chip
fine
but the quadros are optimized for precision
the geforces are optimized for speed
deep skiff
and its a blower so it automatically loses
lime forge
forest zealot
Thats a gross siplifcation
lime forge
even if i could fit it in my budget i wouldnt buy the quadro for gaming
deep skiff
u could use the 3k u saved to buy 2 rgb fans
forest zealot
Also a big thing is that quadros are wicked cheap when new ones come ouy
deep skiff
its still several thousand
lime forge
also you would save 5400 if you didnt get the quadro 8000 rtx if you got a 2070 instead
forest zealot
It would suck in comparison
forest zealot
Were speaking in relative terms don't move the goalposts
limpid merlin
2080ti or titan would be better for gaming, you might as well get two full systems instead of one single quadro 8000
lime forge
sorry i stormed out there i was mad at something else and let that impact what i was saying here
forest zealot
"If you were going balls out"
limpid merlin
"Would ya go 2080ti or SLI 2080 supers"
Quadros weren't mentioned
And they shouldn't be either
forest zealot
I talking full balls