#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 398

lime forge Jul 6, 2019, 8:30 PM

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pre built prices are similar to custom pcs now

sudden turret Jul 6, 2019, 8:30 PM

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yes,

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and technically

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They're all "custom" now.

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might as well remove that lingo.

cyan iris Jul 6, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Yeah you don't find many rigs like Optiplexes floating around

sudden turret Jul 6, 2019, 8:31 PM

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so the new "custom" would be considered modded rigs.

cyan iris Jul 6, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Or anyone that took their sweet sweet time to do a personal loop

lime forge Jul 6, 2019, 8:32 PM

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like box did

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:)

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it seems like it was worth it tho

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he gets great temps

cyan iris Jul 6, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Custom loops are always worth

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Aio has much better quality now than they used to, also a solid choice

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Anyone peeped the new hydro x from corsair?

sudden turret Jul 6, 2019, 8:35 PM

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yeah

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never thought I'd see something cost more than TTs products.

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holy crap their pricing on that stuff was insane

fluid raven Jul 6, 2019, 8:37 PM

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I'm kinda wondering if an all-in one water cooler would be worth it for me because the current heatsink I have has the same issue an even better one would... it's freaking big and annoying if I actually need to change anything internally

cyan iris Jul 6, 2019, 8:38 PM

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I have a castle 360ex and I like it. I also have a few corsair aio's leftover from cooling gpu's

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If you understand their lifespan and have specific need for it, its a solid cheaper option than a full loop

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But the new Hydro X is combining both worlds, I feel this is the start of an industry move.

fluid raven Jul 6, 2019, 8:39 PM

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oh I have not seen that

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Let me investigate

sudden turret Jul 6, 2019, 9:03 PM

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those hydro x imo are way over priced.

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yes, you pay for quality.. but dang..

cyan iris Jul 6, 2019, 10:35 PM

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I mean, at 149 vs 180 for a 360mm AIO, its not too bad

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For the XC7 its https://www.newegg.com/product/N82E16835181178?item=N82E16835181178

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Of course, thats just the block.

lime forge Jul 7, 2019, 2:12 AM

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oops theyre here too

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@sudden turret or @agile gust

agile gust Jul 7, 2019, 2:21 AM

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what up?

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nvm Box informed me

sturdy narwhal Jul 7, 2019, 1:36 PM

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monkaX

cyan iris Jul 7, 2019, 3:36 PM

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What in the world lol

hazy seal Jul 7, 2019, 3:50 PM

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BAD WORDS!

lime forge Jul 7, 2019, 3:52 PM

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theyre bots

fossil hedge Jul 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

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ryzen

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pretty cool.

elder canyon Jul 7, 2019, 6:14 PM

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So many

hardy geode Jul 8, 2019, 1:32 AM

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@little osprey saw a pic of your build. How do you like that elgato card?

little osprey Jul 8, 2019, 2:45 AM

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@hardy geode I really like the card, but the software kind of sucks, it interferes with my audio, so I just don't use it

abstract plinth Jul 8, 2019, 3:57 AM

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@fluid raven I just like to game

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I did stream for a bit but school and work have taken over my life 😮

fluid raven Jul 8, 2019, 3:58 AM

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then why such a fancy mic

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and one of those umbrella thingys for camera flash

abstract plinth Jul 8, 2019, 3:59 AM

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Like I said it was for streaming

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You could also say I just like buying add-ons to my system XD

cyan iris Jul 8, 2019, 4:03 AM

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@little osprey check out the HD updated Razer Ripsaw HD, better than elgato software

little osprey Jul 8, 2019, 4:16 AM

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ok I will look at it, thanks @cyan iris

willow dew Jul 8, 2019, 4:16 AM

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@mossy wadi how'd you mount the fan/radiator on the side?

frail sedge Jul 8, 2019, 4:42 AM

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So guys question bout my build is it any good

ASUS TUF GAMING PLUS B450M AMD RYZEN 2400G G.SKILL FLARE X for AMD 16gb 2x8

lime forge Jul 8, 2019, 4:42 AM

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gpu?

frail sedge Jul 8, 2019, 4:42 AM

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But I need a better hdd and or ssd and PSU is 750w gold seasonic modular

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Ehhh 2400g iGPU

lime forge Jul 8, 2019, 4:43 AM

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you do not need a 750w psu

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unless you wanna add a gpu later

frail sedge Jul 8, 2019, 4:43 AM

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Yea I need a dedicated for the gaming iGPU is just not strong enough but I have a 1060 6gb oc

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I know the PSU is overkill lol so I’m upgrading my CPU to a 3000 series soon and adding the 1060 back idk if it will bottleneck if it does idk how bad

lime forge Jul 8, 2019, 4:45 AM

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eh its fine

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1060s a good card

frail sedge Jul 8, 2019, 4:48 AM

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Ok good

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Ok my mobo just randomly disconnects my mouse shuts down Ethernet card wtf

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I don’t get it

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Anyone know?

sudden turret Jul 8, 2019, 9:49 AM

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@frail sedge sounds like driver issues.

hazy seal Jul 8, 2019, 1:25 PM

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Driver or Virus— most virus will kill your internet ports to stop you from downloading a fix

balmy canopy Jul 8, 2019, 7:27 PM

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But ya

scenic axle Jul 8, 2019, 7:27 PM

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lol thats hilarious

balmy canopy Jul 8, 2019, 7:27 PM

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How does one

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Spend that much

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It’s a prebuilt but still howww

scenic axle Jul 8, 2019, 7:27 PM

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oh its a prebuilt

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lol

balmy canopy Jul 8, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Well

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It’s from origin

scenic axle Jul 8, 2019, 7:27 PM

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ah

sudden turret Jul 8, 2019, 7:27 PM

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thanks

scenic axle Jul 8, 2019, 7:27 PM

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np

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i like your pfp box

sudden turret Jul 8, 2019, 7:28 PM

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we keep it clear so newegg staff can download pictures easier without scrolling through a bunch of chat.

balmy canopy Jul 8, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Ah

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Makes sense

scenic axle Jul 8, 2019, 7:28 PM

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BlobFingerGuns

sudden turret Jul 8, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Yeah,,, probably what my 3700x is doing right now

scenic axle Jul 8, 2019, 7:28 PM

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lmao

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my headset stand is trapped in kentucky rn

sudden turret Jul 8, 2019, 7:29 PM

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yikes

balmy canopy Jul 8, 2019, 7:29 PM

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My headset is still somewhere not purchased

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Heh

scenic axle Jul 8, 2019, 7:29 PM

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is the 3700x the new cpu amd came out with?

balmy canopy Jul 8, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Yes

scenic axle Jul 8, 2019, 7:29 PM

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ah

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lol i have a 1700x

balmy canopy Jul 8, 2019, 7:30 PM

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My cousin’s setup has a 2400g and no gpu

scenic axle Jul 8, 2019, 7:30 PM

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lmao

balmy canopy Jul 8, 2019, 7:30 PM

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But in the future he’s gonna get a 1660

scenic axle Jul 8, 2019, 7:30 PM

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lol

sudden turret Jul 8, 2019, 7:30 PM

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2400g is still a solid cpu

balmy canopy Jul 8, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Yeah

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He was gonna get a 2200g but I said just get the hyperthreading cause he had the budget for it

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He has 3 RGB fans too and I haven’t gotten any... yet

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To be fair his are from uphere and costed $25 while mine are gonna be from Corsair and cost $90. Both are the three packs

fossil hedge Jul 8, 2019, 10:19 PM

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📎 heavy_pistol.png

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I made this

chilly marsh Jul 8, 2019, 10:19 PM

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lol

pastel marsh Jul 8, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Dont even want to post a pic of my 2600X/B450F/16GBTridentZRGB/GTX1060 build as it's some offwhite (now faded to a yellow almost) case from the Windows 95-98 era and looks like a child put it together compared to a lot of these amazingly clean builds I've seen some of you post! I'm upgrading parts when the budget allows for it and a case is up there on my list.

prisma trail Jul 8, 2019, 10:23 PM

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a sleeper, eh?

lime forge Jul 8, 2019, 10:23 PM

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post jt

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please :D

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it*

prisma trail Jul 8, 2019, 10:23 PM

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we like sleepers

pastel marsh Jul 8, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Hahaha it's dirty and horrible cable management so I can't really consider it a sleeper! But I'll get you guys a pic!

prisma trail Jul 8, 2019, 10:24 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/doit-gif-4445206

Tenor

do it

▶ Play video

shut heron Jul 8, 2019, 10:28 PM

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whats up with all these giveaways

pastel marsh Jul 8, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Couple pics up

chilly marsh Jul 8, 2019, 10:30 PM

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dont you ever clean those cables up @pastel marsh

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you could straighten them up

pastel marsh Jul 8, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Will be doing some cable management when I get it in a non-temporary case.

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Few zip ties oughta straighten things out in the mean time I suppose.

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Really didn't want to post pics until I could afford a case and some adequate cooling. Only cooling is the GPU fans and CPU cooler.

sudden turret Jul 8, 2019, 10:38 PM

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great mobo

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have the same one

pastel marsh Jul 8, 2019, 10:40 PM

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@sudden turret it's done well so far. usually run the 2600x @ 4-4.1ghz with the stock cooler

sudden turret Jul 8, 2019, 10:41 PM

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nice

pastel marsh Jul 8, 2019, 10:42 PM

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Next upgrade is the GPU and a case. Kind of debating on what kind of look I want to go with.

lime forge Jul 8, 2019, 10:43 PM

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does that case have fans

sudden turret Jul 8, 2019, 10:43 PM

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no it does not...

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PicardWtf

pastel marsh Jul 8, 2019, 10:44 PM

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Nope.. like I said earlier- currently saving for adequate cooling/case.

sudden turret Jul 8, 2019, 10:44 PM

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but you could get one fan for like 6 bucks 😛

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just to get things flowing

pastel marsh Jul 8, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Oh yeah the fans cost aren't the issue there. But that case is missing the side panels.. so I can't close it. Feel like adding fans would be useless.

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😂🤦‍♂️

sudden turret Jul 8, 2019, 10:46 PM

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well yes and no

lime forge Jul 8, 2019, 11:03 PM

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the fans actually push the air

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windchill

next nymph Jul 9, 2019, 2:36 PM

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@harsh smelt what is that keyboard?

sudden turret Jul 9, 2019, 2:37 PM

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rainbow flavored looks like.

next nymph Jul 9, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Lol

harsh smelt Jul 9, 2019, 4:40 PM

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It’s the rosewill neon k75 with Kailh blue switches. It’s pretty loud, but I’d say it’s worth $100 CAD.

next nymph Jul 9, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Thank you

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Sadly it’s out of stock everywhere

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I guess I’ll get either a Redragon or a refurbished Corsair

little osprey Jul 9, 2019, 8:37 PM

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@swift nexus Let us know if you need any help picking out parts for your new machine?

harsh smelt Jul 9, 2019, 11:25 PM

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i do know they released the k75 v2 but i don't know much about it

cyan iris Jul 10, 2019, 12:55 AM

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Bloody B820 with optic switches is a good option for mechanical keyboard

restive walrus Jul 10, 2019, 4:00 AM

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@young junco What case do you have?

young junco Jul 10, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Phanteks evolv x

restive walrus Jul 10, 2019, 4:01 AM

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@young junco Thanks. Your rig looks awesome btw

young junco Jul 10, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Thanks!!

restive walrus Jul 10, 2019, 4:05 AM

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Do you have a pic with the lights on

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?

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@young junco

little osprey Jul 10, 2019, 4:06 AM

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@restive walrus The lights ARE on in his latest pic

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unless you're referring to the room lights and not the computer's lights.

crimson fox Jul 10, 2019, 5:03 AM

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@cyan iris What do you use for the RGB lighting behind your monitors?

cyan iris Jul 10, 2019, 5:04 AM

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It's some random rgb strip from Ikea lol

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Looks good though

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Even in light

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Posted a light pic for reference

crimson fox Jul 10, 2019, 5:06 AM

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Gotcha, looks very nice

cyan iris Jul 10, 2019, 5:08 AM

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It's long enough to stretch the whole two desk setup we have

restive walrus Jul 10, 2019, 5:14 AM

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Im talking about the room lights

crimson fox Jul 10, 2019, 5:22 AM

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@prisma trail I finally have my parts list that I was talking about earlier. Approximately $2000 budget, although I went a bit over. What are your thoughts? Note: pay attention to the number of certain items in regards to price in the list such as RAM and fans..

https://secure.newegg.com/Wishlist/SharedWishlistDetail?ID=LKzgbjJaMWs%3D

prisma trail Jul 10, 2019, 5:23 AM

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that ram is way too expensive

crimson fox Jul 10, 2019, 5:24 AM

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It's two sets of two sticks

lime forge Jul 10, 2019, 5:24 AM

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📎 unknown.png

crimson fox Jul 10, 2019, 5:24 AM

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136 each yea

lime forge Jul 10, 2019, 5:24 AM

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those timings are pretty good for 3600mhz ram

prisma trail Jul 10, 2019, 5:25 AM

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yeah

lime forge Jul 10, 2019, 5:25 AM

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you could save money if you got a gold rated psu instead of a platinum

crimson fox Jul 10, 2019, 5:25 AM

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do you think 850watts is too much?

lime forge Jul 10, 2019, 5:25 AM

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i think thats about good

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idk

prisma trail Jul 10, 2019, 5:25 AM

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it's a good build but tbh, it can be better

lime forge Jul 10, 2019, 5:25 AM

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maybe its a bit much but its a good size

little osprey Jul 10, 2019, 5:26 AM

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has anyone built a pc with the corsair hydro x lineup? i was thinking of doing a like $3200 build

crimson fox Jul 10, 2019, 5:26 AM

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I appreciate it thanks. And I welcome criticism on this listing

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How would you improve it?

lime forge Jul 10, 2019, 5:26 AM

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noctua is diarrhea colored and it will clash with that case

prisma trail Jul 10, 2019, 5:26 AM

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just a sec

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but it's a status symbol, zack

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get over the color, they're the best fans out there

lime forge Jul 10, 2019, 5:26 AM

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no >:(

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color bad

crimson fox Jul 10, 2019, 5:26 AM

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lol

lime forge Jul 10, 2019, 5:27 AM

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i refuse

crimson fox Jul 10, 2019, 5:27 AM

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I have a few white cases that I've found that would also work well with the noctua colors

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Here's a few of those cases that I was interested in https://secure.newegg.com/Wishlist/SharedWishlistDetail?ID=WsB3U5IvK6A%3D

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Some of those in that list are not ATX; i know

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But yes, the biggest downside of the build I've listed is the lack of storage

prisma trail Jul 10, 2019, 5:34 AM

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i'm fixing that

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qZ6XTB

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like that

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and it includes room for all them fans

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the 2080's kind of a placeholder, because there's no pricing data on the 2070 Super since it's out of stock everywhere

crimson fox Jul 10, 2019, 5:36 AM

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awesome; thanks much

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and gotcha, that makes sense

prisma trail Jul 10, 2019, 5:37 AM

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that RAM has tighter timings too

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16-18-18-36

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compared to the 17-18-18-38 on the TridentZ

crimson fox Jul 10, 2019, 5:37 AM

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Yes, that's nice. Is there a newegg listing for that RAM?

prisma trail Jul 10, 2019, 5:37 AM

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not that i can find

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but these build lists are more like guides

crimson fox Jul 10, 2019, 5:38 AM

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gotcha

prisma trail Jul 10, 2019, 5:38 AM

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not definitive "you must buy this" types of thing

crimson fox Jul 10, 2019, 5:38 AM

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i totally get that, lol

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I'll definitely mess around with a few more combinations of parts in the coming days. But yes, I really appreciate your input.

visual remnant Jul 10, 2019, 9:33 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tNyf6s buying everything today, any last minute changes, Or suggestions

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I think imma just get the 2060 instead of the 1660

hazy seal Jul 10, 2019, 10:02 AM

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@visual remnant great motherboard... love mine.

visual remnant Jul 10, 2019, 10:32 AM

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sweeeet

little osprey Jul 10, 2019, 3:44 PM

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@visual remnant Yeah the 2060 is about 13% faster in games.

fluid raven Jul 10, 2019, 3:45 PM

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But for more than a 13% price Increase smh

tidal bluff Jul 10, 2019, 3:46 PM

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pay the 400 and get 2060 super

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its wayyy better and has 2 more gb memory

fluid raven Jul 10, 2019, 3:47 PM

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True, if it's within budget id recommend

tidal bluff Jul 10, 2019, 3:47 PM

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well u can get the regular 2060 for 350 and super is 400 so its definately worth the extra 50

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and its basically a 2070\

balmy canopy Jul 10, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Yeah it’s a 2070 for cheaper and can actually run ray tracing at 1080 without having to turn all the settings to the lowest

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Don’t quote me on that -

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But I’m pretty sure

cyan iris Jul 10, 2019, 5:30 PM

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I'll keep my 2080ti thanks :P

hazy seal Jul 10, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Me too!! Lol

visual remnant Jul 10, 2019, 7:26 PM

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yo

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are the ryzen stock cpu coolers good

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bc id rather not spend 140 on a radiator and use that elsewhere

lime forge Jul 10, 2019, 7:27 PM

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if youre not overclocking they are great

visual remnant Jul 10, 2019, 7:27 PM

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alright cool, i probably wont

fluid raven Jul 10, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Zoinks I didn't even think about the cooler, mine probably won't work

visual remnant Jul 10, 2019, 7:28 PM

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elaborate

fluid raven Jul 10, 2019, 7:28 PM

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I have an intel currently

visual remnant Jul 10, 2019, 7:29 PM

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i see

fluid raven Jul 10, 2019, 7:29 PM

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do all of them come with a cooler?

visual remnant Jul 10, 2019, 7:29 PM

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all of what

fluid raven Jul 10, 2019, 7:29 PM

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ryzen

visual remnant Jul 10, 2019, 7:30 PM

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i dont think so

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not all

fluid raven Jul 10, 2019, 7:30 PM

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at least the 3600x does

visual remnant Jul 10, 2019, 7:30 PM

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but it should clearly be stated when youre shopping online

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itll even be on the box

hot vortex Jul 10, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Better get my horrible build pic in but I want to get my new monitor set up first

cyan iris Jul 10, 2019, 8:22 PM

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@winter hull got a link to that distribution block?

winter hull Jul 10, 2019, 8:22 PM

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i might

sharp mauve Jul 10, 2019, 11:22 PM

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upgrading to an intel I9 wondering what atx board is the best

royal schooner Jul 10, 2019, 11:55 PM

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word is Gigabytes has the best VRM, but what price range and what are you looking for?

dusky shell Jul 11, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Ey Stormm what's the brand of ur gaming chair

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It looks dope

royal schooner Jul 11, 2019, 12:06 AM

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corsair

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Its meh, the wheels keep going out

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when i say that, the ball bearing keep falling out of the wheels. I already replaced the wheels once, owned the chair for 6 months. Got my replacements on monday and the bearing are already falling out again. I dont weigh over what this chair is rated for

dusky shell Jul 11, 2019, 12:08 AM

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Oof

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That is sucky

royal schooner Jul 11, 2019, 12:09 AM

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yeah, chair was on sale for $260, I had a $70 chair before this one with no problems

dusky shell Jul 11, 2019, 12:10 AM

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:^( that is roughhhhhh

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I did not know corsair had chairs lol

winter hull Jul 11, 2019, 12:30 AM

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@cyan iris i can’t find it but it’s EKWB

royal schooner Jul 11, 2019, 12:43 AM

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@dusky shell I didn't either until it was recommended to me from the newegg website

slate sun Jul 11, 2019, 1:06 AM

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So upgrading from a 980ti to an rtx series card. There's a really good deal on the msi ventus right now. Any reason to wait for the 2080 super and pay 200 more for 10-15% performance increase?

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Other than the performance increase that is

cyan iris Jul 11, 2019, 1:22 AM

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@winter hull Yeah I saw it in a recent bitwit vid but cant find that specific block

balmy canopy Jul 11, 2019, 1:26 AM

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@slate sun just wait for the 2070 super for the same price and you get it new

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It’s basically a 2080. I think it even has the same PCB

balmy canopy Jul 11, 2019, 2:03 AM

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Got any shots of the full pc? @little osprey

little osprey Jul 11, 2019, 2:07 AM

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Yep just lemme find it

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@balmy canopy its in there now

balmy canopy Jul 11, 2019, 2:10 AM

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So cleaaan

little osprey Jul 11, 2019, 2:10 AM

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Ty

balmy canopy Jul 11, 2019, 2:10 AM

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I want a clean build but at the same time I loooooooove RGB

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What I want to have is a clean day setup, then a light show at night lol

little osprey Jul 11, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Never really liked rgb personally too much colors for me to have

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Distracts me

balmy canopy Jul 11, 2019, 2:11 AM

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I’ve always liked it but it’s sooo expensive

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I’m pretty sure I have a full upgrade wishlist of RGB parts 🤷🏽‍♂️

balmy canopy Jul 11, 2019, 2:51 AM

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@rough hornet are you using foam to raise your speakers?

stray nebula Jul 11, 2019, 4:46 PM

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So im looking into getting an SSD for my prebuilt PC, and have very little knowledge of PC's myself. My question is, how would I know which type of SSD/ if an SSD would be compatible with my build's current state as an added item, and not a replacement? @ me or DM if you can help thanks in advance

Currently running a TB HD (sata) and 2 TB EHD (external - USB)

crimson fox Jul 11, 2019, 7:49 PM

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@stray nebula what's the rest of your build specs? Are you looking for a new boot drive to put the operating system on? Or are you looking for more storage space?

prisma trail Jul 11, 2019, 7:49 PM

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probably looking for a boot drive

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if you are, i'll list a couple of options

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https://www.newegg.com/patriot-burst-240gb/p/N82E16820225082?Description=240GB ssd&cm_re=240GB_ssd-_-20-225-082-_-Product

crimson fox Jul 11, 2019, 7:50 PM

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The simple route is a Samsung 860 evo 250gb

prisma trail Jul 11, 2019, 7:51 PM

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that's a 240GB SSD for $23 - it's SATA based which means it's going to be compatible with most PCs going back about 15 years

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there are a ton of great SSDs out there, it's not all about samsung

crimson fox Jul 11, 2019, 7:51 PM

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I personally recommend Samsung because of the data migration software tho

prisma trail Jul 11, 2019, 7:52 PM

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or just use Macrium Reflect for free with a cheaper drive

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it's pretty simple to use

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but really @stray nebula it would better if we could get a model number for your PC to know what it's 100% compatible with

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you could maybe even get a super fast M.2 drive that way

little osprey Jul 11, 2019, 10:22 PM

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@little osprey What are your computer specs?

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@little osprey its a lenovo H50 Cpu:intel i7 8th gen hard drive is a 1 tb 7200 rpm one and a terrible blown nvidia GPU

balmy canopy Jul 12, 2019, 12:29 AM

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@orchid plover I have the same exact keyboard it’s great 👍🏽

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Nvm you have the SE I’m jealous

stray nebula Jul 12, 2019, 1:00 AM

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@prisma trail @crimson fox Not sure if this helps

Radeon Software Version - 19.1.2
Radeon Software Edition - Adrenalin 2019
Graphics Chipset - Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics
Memory Size - 8192 MB
Memory Type - GDDR5
Core Clock - 1290 MHz
Windows Version - Windows 10 (64 bit)
System Memory - 16 GB
CPU Type - AMD FX-8370 Eight-Core Processor

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Asus 970 pro gaming aura

chilly marsh Jul 12, 2019, 6:00 PM

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when something is so popular you dont even get a chance to order before it goes outta stock

prisma trail Jul 12, 2019, 6:06 PM

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that's how we know it's good

sudden turret Jul 12, 2019, 6:39 PM

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^^^

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mine is on delivery truck 😄 😄 😄

fossil hedge Jul 12, 2019, 6:40 PM

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📎 spider_v2.png

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spider

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📎 Untitled.png

scenic axle Jul 12, 2019, 6:54 PM

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also i took a panorama so it looks all stretchy l0l

rough hornet Jul 14, 2019, 5:50 AM

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@balmy canopy yes I do

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Those foam blocks are from a Vizio speaker box

frigid cloud Jul 14, 2019, 6:56 AM

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Doesn anyone have a good rtx 1200 dollar build max?

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Does*

little osprey Jul 14, 2019, 1:33 PM

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@frigid cloud CAD, USD, AUD?

Tax included or no

If included, what tax rate?

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@frigid cloud https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zrkmnH

$1250 if 8% tax included for this one.

Cheaper if no tax, more expensive if more tax.

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USD

tidal bluff Jul 14, 2019, 1:39 PM

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better to spend the extra 20 bucks and get the 2060 super. it has 2gb more memory \

little osprey Jul 14, 2019, 1:40 PM

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are they even in stock tho?

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yeah, but they are $100 more, not $20 more.

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I mean, he could get the SC instead of the XC Ultra for $20 more, but I wouldn't feel good about doing that, so I wouldn't reccomend that to someone else TBH.

tidal bluff Jul 14, 2019, 1:43 PM

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the 2060 super is supposed to be 400 american

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the 2070 super is 500 so cant be 100 more

little osprey Jul 14, 2019, 1:43 PM

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that's MSRP, not actual cost

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the 2060 XC Ultra is $460

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plus the tax, which I have been using, it's $496.78

tidal bluff Jul 14, 2019, 1:44 PM

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no

little osprey Jul 14, 2019, 1:44 PM

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vs $411.93

tidal bluff Jul 14, 2019, 1:44 PM

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399 plus tax

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https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2060-super-08g-p4-3067-kr/p/N82E16814487460?Description=evga rtx 2060 super&cm_re=evga_rtx_2060_super-_-14-487-460-_-Product

little osprey Jul 14, 2019, 1:44 PM

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that's the SC

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not XC

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did you even read what I said lmao

tidal bluff Jul 14, 2019, 1:44 PM

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doesnt matter which one lol its basically a 2070

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and has 2 more gb \

little osprey Jul 14, 2019, 1:45 PM

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it does matter for cooling

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it's the difference between 1.5-1.75 slot heatsink and 2.5-2.75 slot heatsink. So if you want better temps, then you're better off with the XC Ultra

tidal bluff Jul 14, 2019, 1:46 PM

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i have yet to see 1 evga card with 2 fans that doesnt cool lol

little osprey Jul 14, 2019, 1:46 PM

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it's not about not cooling, it's about more cooling

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I want more overclocking headroom, so the bigger the heatsink/better the heatsink the more happy I am

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I mean, if they aren't going to OC, then by all means the SC is fine

tidal bluff Jul 14, 2019, 1:47 PM

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414 https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-2060-super-rtx-2060-super-gaming-x/p/N82E16814137440?Description=rtx 2060 super&cm_re=rtx_2060_super-_-14-137-440-_-Product

little osprey Jul 14, 2019, 1:48 PM

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still only a 2 slot

tidal bluff Jul 14, 2019, 1:48 PM

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my brother has a rtx 2060 super and they cool just fine

little osprey Jul 14, 2019, 1:48 PM

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but whatever. You obviously aren't picking up what I'm putting down, so I'm going to leave it

fossil hedge Jul 14, 2019, 3:37 PM

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gear

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dusk snow Jul 15, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Hey I was wondering, is the Ryzen 7 2700x a good overall cpu for gaming and digital illustration/visual creation? Here's the build I'm thinking of building and was wondering if this is a good build for the future. I've never built a pc before and I'm trying to follow the advice I've been getting from a lot of different sources. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DvgH6s

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I also like to listen to youtube videos while playing games or working in photoshop so I'm not sure if intel or AMD is better for that kind of workflow

little osprey Jul 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

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@dusk snow Is $1,300 about your max budget?

dusk snow Jul 15, 2019, 12:22 AM

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1500 is my max w/ a monitor.

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so yeah, about 1300

little osprey Jul 15, 2019, 12:31 AM

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@dusk snow https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3ZRbWD

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I switched out your 2.5" SSD with an M.2 one which is cheaper, 3 times faster and a little cheaper.

dusk snow Jul 15, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Thanks. Would installing the m.2 drive in the compatible slot above the GPU cause any issues with overheating since the GPU fan will be pushing air over it? I know the m.2 drive has a heat sink with the mobo but I'm not entirely sure.

little osprey Jul 15, 2019, 12:46 AM

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@dusk snow If it's a big concern you can always just use the other M.2 slot at the bottom of the mobo.

dusk snow Jul 15, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Thanks a lot.

little osprey Jul 15, 2019, 12:53 AM

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@dusk snow It is a popular question. The best answer on Tom's Hardware forum was this: "I think the mobo manufacturers have done plenty of testing with the m.2 slot and heat considerations.
If you are using a downdraft cpu fan it will most likely blast the m.2 a little as well.
The GPU sits in its PCI-E slot and blasts heat on the lower side and your m.2 is above it so it might only get a little bit of radiant heat from the backplane of the gfx card.
Anyway, M.2 will throttle if it gets too hot and its the future, so jump on board."

placid vigil Jul 15, 2019, 2:25 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/cd8130c167fd232d63df91b5ba2d9ebd/tenor.gif

warped glade Jul 15, 2019, 3:25 PM

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Im going to be doing my 2nd pc build and im looking for a good case that can tell me case temperature on the case iteelf, the only one ove seen is the evga dg-87

balmy canopy Jul 15, 2019, 4:35 PM

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@little osprey don’t SATA m.2’s perform almost exactly the same as normal SATA 2.5” SSD’s since they use the same architecture or something. NVME M.2 SSD’s are the faster AND more expensive ones I’m pretty sure

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Oh he had an 860 EVO nvm lol

little osprey Jul 15, 2019, 5:26 PM

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lol

little osprey Jul 15, 2019, 9:49 PM

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So if I'm building my first pc and bought Ryzen 2700x. But total budget is around 1200 bucks what's the best Nvidia graphics card to go with ?

prisma trail Jul 15, 2019, 10:01 PM

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2060 if you can find a good price

little osprey Jul 15, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Yeah I've been looking. Thought about the deal new egg has. Think it's 309 right now.

tough edge Jul 15, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Hey 👋🏼 does anyone here know if the cooler master ml360R rgb can do this effect but then with like 2 colors (which you can customize off course) just like you can with the corsair LL120 fans can anyone help me? (the picture is a GIF only its not working sorry)

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lime forge Jul 15, 2019, 10:48 PM

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that is a very heavily edited picture

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with special lighting and stuff

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i doubt youd get something close to that irl

little osprey Jul 16, 2019, 12:37 AM

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What x570 or x470 board do you guys think has the best 4 x8 GB overclocking? Aiming for 3600 c14, I assume I want to keep fclk synchronous with dram? I plan to buy a bunch of 3200c14 b-die and manually bin myself.

versed tree Jul 16, 2019, 2:16 AM

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I JUST UPGRADED MY RYZEN TO A 3900X

dusk snow Jul 16, 2019, 4:34 AM

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Well i bought all my parts. Super excited and a little nervous building my first pc.

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Correct me if im wrong but will the b450 boards support the new ryzen series chips?

little osprey Jul 16, 2019, 4:38 AM

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@dusk snow With a BIOS update yes. But you'd need to have a previous gen CPU to first update the BIOS and THEN put the new series CPU in. You're better off getting a B550 or x570 for ryzen 3000.

dusk snow Jul 16, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Would bios flash work instead? My motherboard the msi gaming pro carbon ac has that feature.

little osprey Jul 16, 2019, 5:05 AM

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@dusk snow Yes you can do that with the MSI B450 gaming pro carbon AC with the flash BIOS button.

little osprey Jul 16, 2019, 5:35 AM

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that's a good motherobard 😛

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I almost got it, but opted for an X570 instead

wet tiger Jul 16, 2019, 8:36 AM

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Any thoughts on a 3600 paired with a 2060 super? Would they work well together?

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It's hard to find much information since they're both new

fierce orchid Jul 16, 2019, 10:32 AM

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Is there any way I could build a budget PC with only $500?

steel zephyr Jul 16, 2019, 12:24 PM

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My main goal is ultimately 4k ultra 60+ fps and I can worry about some other video processing stuff later but gaming is the biggest thing. So my best bet to get quality and save some money is either the 3700x or 3800x and grab a 2080 ti at this point?

hazy seal Jul 16, 2019, 1:09 PM

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I GOT PERMISSION!!! I can build another one!!! (Evil laugh) lol

elfin flicker Jul 16, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Matt’s $500 build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mPNCGG

modest warren Jul 16, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Since the new ryzen chips came out, here is my near final part list for my next build.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/JMTHEFOX/saved/dRNYHx

modest warren Jul 16, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Looking to purchase the parts this Wednesday or on the 25th when my mom gets paid

placid vigil Jul 16, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Oops wrong

little osprey Jul 16, 2019, 8:17 PM

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@wet tiger Yes they will work fine together. The 3600 is more than enough CPU to run that video card without being a bottleneck.

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@fierce orchid Please see what "Samot" posted above ^.

fierce orchid Jul 16, 2019, 8:25 PM

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I saw it @little osprey

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Thanks @elfin flicker

wet tiger Jul 16, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Thanks. I did some more research a little later yesterday and found a lot of articles that said the 2 would work well together so that may be what I go with

little osprey Jul 16, 2019, 8:27 PM

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@wet tiger Nice, that's awesome.

wet tiger Jul 16, 2019, 8:32 PM

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My pc is a bit outdated. Still rocking an fx 4300 😛

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Which I have to say, for how much hate these processors get, they work very well.

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Just not the best for gaming lol

little osprey Jul 16, 2019, 8:35 PM

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@wet tiger Yeah it's more of a cheap priced office solution.

wet tiger Jul 16, 2019, 8:41 PM

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That was the best I could do with AMD at the time, and even then that cpu is on the low end of the fx scale

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Should have went with a 6300 or 8350

little osprey Jul 16, 2019, 8:42 PM

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I had an 8370, it was...ok.

wet tiger Jul 16, 2019, 8:42 PM

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The original gpu was a 730 though so it's not like the cpu really mattered I guess haha

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I replaced it with a 750 ti since then

little osprey Jul 16, 2019, 8:44 PM

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oof, well the 2060 super will be quite the upgrade for ya.

fringe isle Jul 16, 2019, 10:44 PM

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Anyone want to help me make a build?

placid vigil Jul 16, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Anyone know the best graphics card at 1080p@165fps(165hz panel) on a budget of around 400$?

hazy seal Jul 16, 2019, 11:04 PM

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little osprey Jul 16, 2019, 11:29 PM

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@placid vigil https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-2070-rtx-2070-duke-8g-oc/p/N82E16814137365?Description=2070&cm_re=2070-_-14-137-365-_-Product

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If it will fit in your case.

placid vigil Jul 16, 2019, 11:30 PM

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I have the Corsair 275r, I think it'll fit

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460mm

pulsar garnet Jul 17, 2019, 1:28 AM

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So I'm planning out a new build, and was wondering if anyone would like to give me some feedback. Particularly on pricing and things you think might best be switched out with something cheaper or redirect me to other things for better performance and reliability in the same price range.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Zovyra/saved/

hazy seal Jul 17, 2019, 1:29 AM

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Would personally go for a bigger Case... but that’s me... I am a fan of having room around my parts

pulsar garnet Jul 17, 2019, 1:30 AM

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That case is huge though...

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20x15x24?

hazy seal Jul 17, 2019, 1:31 AM

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Looks small... only 2 fans on front.. I always judge the case by 3 fans on front... lol

pulsar garnet Jul 17, 2019, 1:31 AM

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Ah

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The top fits up to 8 120mms

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I already have the case, I just put it on the partpicker for the sake of it being completely there

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But like what else?

hazy seal Jul 17, 2019, 1:33 AM

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They are 140 not 120.. that’s why there is 2 not 3

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That is much larger then it looks.. looking at it more on some sites... like fun actually to build with.

pulsar garnet Jul 17, 2019, 1:34 AM

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Yeah, I love it. It's soooooo roomy.

hazy seal Jul 17, 2019, 1:35 AM

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That pic on part picker makes it look small

pulsar garnet Jul 17, 2019, 1:35 AM

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Yeah

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I'm pretty set on doing an AMD build (though probably 3950x not 3900x) and RTX 2080 Ti with water cooling, but other things can be tweaked for performance and price

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Also lots and lots of RGB :D

hazy seal Jul 17, 2019, 1:39 AM

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I almost got that same GPU... but saved the 300$ and went with the OC edition of the 2080ti

pulsar garnet Jul 17, 2019, 1:40 AM

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@hazy seal can you disassemble it and add a water cooling block?

hazy seal Jul 17, 2019, 1:40 AM

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The one I got? I am sure...

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Never really looked. I don’t have a custom loop, so no need for me

dusk snow Jul 17, 2019, 5:11 AM

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Would a ryzen 7 2700x bottleneck an rtx 2070? Been recieving mixed feedback on it.

prisma trail Jul 17, 2019, 5:13 AM

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it would not

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP1oCjDPoPM

YouTube

SV

RTX 2070 + Ryzen 7 2700 Test in 6 games I Ultra settings I 1080P

Tested games: 0:00 - CS GO; 1:58 - GTA 5; 5:36 - PUBG; 7:33 - RE 2; 10:21 - Shadow of the Tomb Rider; 13:15 - Whitcher 3 RTX 2070 Palit GameRock Premium Ryze...

▶ Play video

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyx9YSads5A

YouTube

For Gamers

R7 2700X +RTX 2070 vs I7 8700K +GTX 1080 | Tested 13 Games |

Product Links : RTX 2070 US Link :https://amzn.to/2CoEq37 UK Link :https://amzn.to/2CSYETK Canada Link : Ryzen 7 2700X US Link :https://amzn.to/2M0hysa UK Li...

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neon glen Jul 17, 2019, 4:04 PM

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My first build begins!!

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echo garden Jul 17, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Cool good luck

hazy seal Jul 17, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Looks like it needs some assembly..... lol. Have fun

little osprey Jul 18, 2019, 5:17 AM

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Should I get an RTX 2080? I was planning to have it go along with an i9 9900k. My plans for the PC would be gaming, streaming and editing videos on it.

prisma trail Jul 18, 2019, 5:31 AM

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i'd wait for the 2080 super to come out later this month

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see how it does

little osprey Jul 18, 2019, 12:45 PM

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^^

cyan iris Jul 18, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Get a 2080ti if you can swing it.

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@little osprey

hazy seal Jul 18, 2019, 7:01 PM

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It’s a great combo!

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raven cloud Jul 18, 2019, 7:54 PM

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@fringe isle What kind of help do you need for your build?

uneven glade Jul 18, 2019, 7:58 PM

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Will a 2700X be bottlenecks by my 1060 6gb

fringe isle Jul 18, 2019, 8:00 PM

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@

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@raven cloud want a system that I don’t need to worry about needing to upgrade right away, I want to spend right around 2k

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Like for gaming but also gunna be running a couple vm’s for school

crystal sigil Jul 18, 2019, 8:03 PM

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📎 IMG_20190718_160238_9.jpg

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My camera is bad but that's my build

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My gpu sucks though the fans only turn when they want to

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 8:05 PM

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that is designed that way

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if you want them to always spin, download MSI afterburner

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do a custom fan curve.

crystal sigil Jul 18, 2019, 8:06 PM

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No I mean even when it says the fans are on

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 8:06 PM

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I like to keep mine at 40% idle

crystal sigil Jul 18, 2019, 8:06 PM

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I think the fans are damaged

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 8:06 PM

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are you using gigabytes software?

crystal sigil Jul 18, 2019, 8:07 PM

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No I removed it

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 8:07 PM

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download MSI afterburner

crystal sigil Jul 18, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Something weird happened today though the fans spun up normal

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 8:08 PM

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bios controlled.

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you probably hit the thermal limit for them to spin up.

crystal sigil Jul 18, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Oh

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I was gonna buy a new card

crimson zenith Jul 18, 2019, 8:11 PM

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How does this build look? My build:

Gpu: ASUS Rog Strix GeForce RTX 2070 Advanced

CPU: AMD Ryzen 2700x

Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix X470-F Gaming AMD Ryzen 2 AM4 DDR4 DP HDMI M.2 ATX Motherboard

Psu: Rosewill ARC Series 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified Single +12V Rail Intel 4th Gen CPU SLI and CrossFire Ready Gaming ...

Case: NZXT H500i - Compact ATX Mid-Tower PC Gaming Case - RGB Lighting and Fan Control - CAM-Powered Smart Device - Tempered ...

Ram: CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model CMK16GX4M2B3200C16

HDD: Seagate BarraCuda ST2000DM008 2TB 7200 RPM 256MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive Bare Drive

SSD SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series 2.5" 500GB SATA III V-NAND 3-bit MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-76E500B/AM

crystal sigil Jul 18, 2019, 8:11 PM

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Like a dream

gloomy rock Jul 18, 2019, 8:12 PM

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3200mhz is good for the 2700x

cedar crane Jul 18, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Would you guys go up to 3600mhz for the 3900x?

crystal sigil Jul 18, 2019, 8:13 PM

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OK I got afterburner

uneven glade Jul 18, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Will a 2700X bottleneck a 1060 6gb?

lime forge Jul 18, 2019, 8:19 PM

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nope

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 8:23 PM

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you might have to reboot @crystal sigil for the afterburner to pick up your gpu

crystal sigil Jul 18, 2019, 8:30 PM

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My card isn't overheating o.o

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I'm playing swtor in max settings

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Is it normal for my fans to be at 1700 rpm?

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 8:31 PM

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so they are spinning now

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my fan curve.

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uneven glade Jul 18, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Thanks @lime forge

crystal sigil Jul 18, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Yeah they are my temps are at 70 but won't go over

uneven glade Jul 18, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Also would 3000 MHz ram work fine with it and a Pro4 atx mb

crystal sigil Jul 18, 2019, 8:34 PM

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I use 2400 MHz

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 8:34 PM

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so then your card isn't busted like you thought 😃

uneven glade Jul 18, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Right now I’m using a i5 650 with a 1060 6gb which runs fortnite surprisingly well I get 120-144 on Everything low expect view distance which is on Epic

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My bottleneck rate is at 55%

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Lol

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 8:42 PM

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ouch

uneven glade Jul 18, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Yeah

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That’s why I’m upgrading to a 2700X

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Lol

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Which I got on sale for prime day

crystal sigil Jul 18, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Afterburner didn't help must be a hardware issue

crystal sigil Jul 18, 2019, 10:17 PM

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I'm just gonna get the MSI armor 580 it has 2 HDMI ports which is what I need anyways

elfin rampart Jul 18, 2019, 11:05 PM

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Yo guys i need some help

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Im trying to remove my motherboard to install a new cpu cooler

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Do i unplug my connectors by simply pulling them out or do i have to press a clip to remove

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 11:06 PM

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dont need to remove the motherboard.

neat garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:06 PM

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press the clip

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you dont need need to remove the mbo if you have proper back acces in your case

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so you can remove the old cooler back plate and replace the new one

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If you got a half way decent case it should have a hole in the mbo mount behind the cpu

elfin rampart Jul 18, 2019, 11:07 PM

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I was trying to install the stock amd cooler but Im having a hard time getting the screws in as I cannot see if it lines up with the standoffs

neat garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:08 PM

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amd or intel?

elfin rampart Jul 18, 2019, 11:08 PM

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I wss trying to do it with mobo inside case but its hard for me cause the bracket for amd doesnt stick onto the back

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So i used something to prop the bracket and hold it in place while the case is laid on its side

neat garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:08 PM

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can you take a pic?

elfin rampart Jul 18, 2019, 11:09 PM

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📎 JPEG_20190718_160946.jpg

neat garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:10 PM

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of the computer....

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 11:10 PM

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remove the the back side of your case

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and show us that

neat garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:10 PM

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yah

elfin rampart Jul 18, 2019, 11:10 PM

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sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 11:10 PM

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...

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backside

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😛

elfin rampart Jul 18, 2019, 11:10 PM

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📎 20190718_161034.jpg

neat garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:10 PM

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that is the front side

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ahhh

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ok

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so you put the bracket in the 4 holes

elfin rampart Jul 18, 2019, 11:11 PM

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You know how its indented

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When i lay the case on its side, the bracket doesnt hold

neat garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:11 PM

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and then you reach arround with the other hand and screw on one of the standoffs

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 11:11 PM

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you'll have to hold the backplate.

neat garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:11 PM

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dont put it on the side

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 11:11 PM

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dont lay the case down.

neat garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:11 PM

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keep it upright like it is

elfin rampart Jul 18, 2019, 11:11 PM

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Ok let me try that

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 11:12 PM

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or use some tape 😄

neat garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:12 PM

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yup

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just remove it before you turn on the computer

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 11:12 PM

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but i feel you on this, I've had my fair share of battling those stupid plates lol.

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need a third arm

neat garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:13 PM

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I used the plastic one that came with my cooler

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i did not like the idea of metal potentaly contacting the mbo

balmy canopy Jul 18, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Why don’t you turn it on the side

neat garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:14 PM

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you want it upright so you can reach both sides

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one to hold the bracket and the other to attach the standoffs on the other side

sudden turret Jul 18, 2019, 11:14 PM

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^

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as long as the plastic piece is on you shouldn't have to worry about metal contact.

neat garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:15 PM

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true

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but my cooler came with a plastic back plate that worked along wiith the metal one

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im a go afk for a bit
@ me if it works or you have issues

elfin rampart Jul 18, 2019, 11:38 PM

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So i tried leaving my case upright and having my bro hold the bracket while i screw the cooler in

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Problem is that when I screw in one corner and then try to screw diagonally, the screw diagonally doesnt hit the standoff

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And the screw doesnt really move

neat garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:46 PM

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🤷

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There should not be an issue if the back plate sits flat against the mbo

sudden turret Jul 19, 2019, 12:25 AM

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are you using the correct standoffs?

elfin rampart Jul 19, 2019, 1:58 AM

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Yeah, and I got it to work, took me hella long

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After looking it online, I found that other people have problems with amd stock cooler too

cyan iris Jul 19, 2019, 4:59 AM

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I for one had zero issues with the AMD Wraith cooler. One of the simplest installs lol

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You just have to make sure the block is oriented right :P

chilly marsh Jul 19, 2019, 5:00 AM

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yea

cyan iris Jul 19, 2019, 5:01 AM

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My Castle 360ex was harder to install and thats also fairly simple lol

oak radish Jul 19, 2019, 5:02 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q9QjfH could I get by with a 500gb Samsung evo m.2 ssd for this build?

little osprey Jul 19, 2019, 5:27 AM

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@oak radish got a link for that ssd?

oak radish Jul 19, 2019, 2:38 PM

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@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4ZFf7/samsung-970-evo-500gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mz-v7e500bw

little osprey Jul 19, 2019, 3:13 PM

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@oak radish Speed wise you can definitely get by with that drive, it's pretty fast. 500Gb though isn't very big these days but if you can limit yourself a bit on what you download it can last for now.

tidal bluff Jul 19, 2019, 4:01 PM

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what would you guys suggest? its either z390 asus strix with a i7 8700k or a x470 asus strix -E with a 3700x

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i currently use a ryzen 7 1700 but am used to intel

cedar crane Jul 19, 2019, 4:06 PM

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3700x

little osprey Jul 19, 2019, 4:32 PM

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@tidal bluff Well the 3700x is a little more expensive right now on newegg but it's also a little faster. https://www.newegg.com/core-i7-8th-gen-intel-core-i7-8700k/p/N82E16819117827?Description=8700k&cm_re=8700k-_-19-117-827-_-Product https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-3700x/p/N82E16819113567?Description=3700x&cm_re=3700x-_-19-113-567-_-Product The new ryzen series has some bugs to work out though through BIOS updates. Also that x470 mobo will need a BIOS update right off the bat to even run a 3700x. I would go with the Intel option or get a x570 board with that 3700x.

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Also, are you sure you don't mean x470 asus strix -F? I don't even see an -E model.

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Or maybe you mean x570-E? Because there is one of those.

tidal bluff Jul 19, 2019, 6:21 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-x570-e-gaming/p/N82E16813119111?Description=asus rog strix x570-e&cm_re=asus_rog_strix_x570-e-_-13-119-111-_-Product @little osprey

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just deciding on which board i wanna go with will most likely be strix z390-e

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looking at the bios review on the z390 im liking it sofar. the bios even tells you the % prediction of how good your cpu is in silicon

little osprey Jul 19, 2019, 6:46 PM

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@tidal bluff Either that AMD or Intel setup should work out great for you. Let us know your decision?

tidal bluff Jul 19, 2019, 6:47 PM

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I gotta save up but ill most likely go asus rog strix z390-E

little osprey Jul 19, 2019, 6:48 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/piggy-bank-coin-money-save-gif-7988935

Tenor

tidal bluff Jul 19, 2019, 6:48 PM

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is it just me or is the only difference between these 2 just the wifi?

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119188?Description=asus rog strix z390&cm_re=asus_rog_strix_z390-_-13-119-188-_-Product

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119151?Description=asus rog strix z390&cm_re=asus_rog_strix_z390-_-13-119-151-_-Product

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one is the E and other is the F

rocky dove Jul 19, 2019, 6:51 PM

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I want to build a Pc, so what do you think of the Abkoncore Ramesses 760 as case?

tidal bluff Jul 19, 2019, 6:52 PM

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@rocky dove never heard of it , it looks kool tho. my next case will be a thermaltake P5

rocky dove Jul 19, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Nice, in Thermaltake i looked for the View 37 ARGB, but then I saw the Abkoncore which has 12 slots for ssd/HDD and 11 fans.

tidal bluff Jul 19, 2019, 6:55 PM

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im going for an open design so its very easy to run my loop. then later after its ran i can get the upgrade kit to fully glass it

rocky dove Jul 19, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Yes, this case looks great with water cooling

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Which rtx?
This https://www.newegg.com/global/de-en/p/1FT-0009-001H1
Or this https://www.newegg.com/global/de-en/zotac-geforce-rtx-2080-zt-t20800c-10p/p/N82E16814500447

tidal bluff Jul 19, 2019, 7:12 PM

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id get a super or wait till they come out

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they will be same price and faster

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i always either go with evga or rog strix

little osprey Jul 19, 2019, 7:20 PM

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@rocky dove Have you considered this?: https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-08g-p4-2287-kr/p/N82E16814487414

rocky dove Jul 19, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Nah, i like the rgb of the zotac or msi more and of you look here in local stores the msi or zotac costs only 20€ more

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Is it worth it to pay 200€ more for a 2080 ti?

balmy canopy Jul 19, 2019, 10:38 PM

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Honestly if you’re getting a 2080ti does cost really matter lmao

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But yes it does and no 200 more isn’t worth it if you’re talking pure worth

little osprey Jul 19, 2019, 11:18 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-08g-p4-2081-kr/p/N82E16814487415
or
https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-08g-p4-2287-kr/p/N82E16814487414

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 12:33 AM

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or overclock a 2080 super when it comes out and save $400??

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will the 2080 super be able to match the performance of a 2080 ti if overclocked tho

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Do you honestly think theres a 20 frame difference though? Realistically do you think the 2080 ti is gonna be better for how much it costs. That extra $400 dollars is important. Not everyone has boatloads of money to spend on a card. I mean if its better than a 2080 then itll easily be top 10 on Userbenchmark when it comes out.

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Its obviously gonna be better but not monumentally better

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It has faster clocks too. Which I would prefer as 11GB is pretty redundant.

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Not worth the extra $400 imo

zealous pilot Jul 20, 2019, 12:49 AM

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i though they said 2080 super is not going to be a thing

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 12:56 AM

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Best cooler for an i9 9900k? For the NZXt should I go with the kraken x62 or x72

sudden turret Jul 20, 2019, 12:57 AM

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bigger is better.

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 12:57 AM

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The 2080 Super comes out the 23rd. You are thinking about the 2080 Ti Super

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Believe it or not but Noctua and bequiet! Air Coolers out perform many AIOs

zealous pilot Jul 20, 2019, 12:59 AM

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gotcha

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 12:59 AM

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The NH-D15 would be great for a 9900K. Im getting it for my 3900X. It also is more silent than just about any AIO. Atleast of what I know. My AIO was loud...

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and it performs better than an AIO and it's more quiet

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Yes

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correct?

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ah i see

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Yes

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It beat a 360 AIO from Corsair. Which is great since its $90

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holy crap

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that's amazing

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Also comes with noctuas amazing thermal paste

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too bad the fans are brown and tan

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Which is even better than most thermal paste. I personally would advocate for thermal grizzly kryonaut.

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You can buy replacement fans

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That are all black

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i see

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Or a black cover

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https://www.newegg.com/p/1YF-000T-000D7?item=9SIAADY6HZ8614&ignorebbr=true&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googlemkp-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googlemkp-mobile-_-pla-noctua+cooling+solutions-_-case+fans-_-9SIAADY6HZ8614&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItfOzmKbC4wIVDF8NCh2McQ2dEAQYASABEgLSc_D_BwE

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Or the heatsink cover

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Thats what a good heatsink looks like

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From OC3D TVs Youtube

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fractal design's venturi hf-14 fans are pretty good

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Most fans nowadays are great. I dont like RGB too much. I prefer bequiet! or Noctua. You can buy some PureWings 2 140mm fans from bequiet! for $12. Very quiet and push good amount of air. Wouldnt recommend for radiators. Best fans for that would be higher speed Noctuas

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But you can get buy with just about any fans nowadays since they mostly keep things very cool without all the noise. Ill sell somebody various fans for 10$

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the fans i'm getting are like 118 CFM and 26 dB

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What are they?

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fractal design venturi hf-14

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no RGB

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What? I dont see those stats on them. 140 or 120. Non PWM?

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Wait nvm

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non PWM

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https://www.newegg.com/fractal-design-fd-fan-vent-hf14-bk-case-fan/p/N82E16835352023

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these things

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I see it

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and with their low speed adapters they still have like 70 something CFM

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Yea that sounds weird. I doubt a non PWM will push that much air especially given that noise level so low. But they might be right

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they also feature 120mm mounting holes

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so you can put them on a 120mm rad

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Ok but if you want watercooling fans EK Vardar are better

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Proven performance. But It depends. Whatever you like. I like absolute silence. But others like fans to push no matter how loud

tidal bluff Jul 20, 2019, 2:37 AM

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are open boxes from newegg ok? was thinking of getting a strix z390

fossil hedge Jul 20, 2019, 2:45 AM

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well, if thats kind of a imperative part sure, but why so pricey. open boxes tend to just be open boxes, I would not recommend it normally, but if you have free returns on the product sure.

chrome yarrow Jul 20, 2019, 2:48 AM

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LF someone to put together a budget Build that will handle FPS gaming! Graphics card adn case are already updated to a 2080 and a Mid tower case.. budegting 700 to 800 bucks for other components

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 4:10 AM

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what parts specifically @chrome yarrow

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Anyone know how to access top mounted fans in this case? https://www.newegg.com/black-raidmax-monster-ii-se-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811156360?Description=RAIDMAX Monster case&cm_re=RAIDMAX_Monster_case-_-11-156-360-_-Product

I bought it pre-assembled, and one the top mounted fans went bad, but I have no clue how to access them.

hazy seal Jul 20, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Looks like some screws hold in the cage... should be able to take the off and get to it.

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My old one had to take the sides, and front off to get to the top ones

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 4:56 PM

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I can take off the sides of the case, but from the looks of it the screws are in the top-side in the case, and the very top of the case is blocking me access to the screws.

chrome yarrow Jul 20, 2019, 5:09 PM

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@little osprey all of them except what i mentioned

dire jewel Jul 20, 2019, 5:10 PM

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h100i gonna be good enough to cool 3700x ryzen ?

clear pewter Jul 20, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Probably

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 6:31 PM

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AIOs can cool a 3700X easily. It has a 65W TDP. But I would prefer either custom or just an air cooler. Get a Noctua NH-D15 and itll be cooler and more quiet @dire jewel

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Save the money

willow gorge Jul 20, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Wait, 65W TDP only?

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That's nuts

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Well thats what its rated

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People might overclock

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7nm

willow gorge Jul 20, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Wait, but 3600x has a TDP of 105W

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 6:41 PM

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High clocks

willow gorge Jul 20, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Oh yeah

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Whoops

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Thats why the 3800X has a high TDP. High clocks

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Ive told countless people this. Its just not worth the extra premium. Those pumps inside AIOs are absolute garbage. Theres a reason they all come with 5 year warranties because those pumps only last around 5 years. After you buy an AIO, the days are numbered. Ive had both a custom and AIO waterloop. I can recommend the custom loop but not everyone has the money. But when you introduce an AIO you get a really loud and unreliable cooler. Because the pump is built in and hard to reach to the average consumer. That moving part really will make your day horrible when it fails. Thats what happened to me anyways. Fans are also moving parts but they are so much easier to replace. If you really are set on getting a AIO, do the research and find the right one. They just aren’t worth that extra premium in my opinion. Ive had countless issues with my AIO. Fans are lousy and extremely loud, the pump failed, plus the AIOs introduce a lot less room in small cases. Just do the research, if you want a good cooler thats quiet and costs less get the NH-D15.

willow gorge Jul 20, 2019, 6:50 PM

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I'm a first time builder and I'm looking for some advice

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 6:51 PM

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What advice

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Building or picking the right part

willow gorge Jul 20, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Picking the right parts

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Ok whats your budget

willow gorge Jul 20, 2019, 6:51 PM

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About $1000 dollars

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Ok

willow gorge Jul 20, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Im thinking of a 3600 and a 5700

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Well if you are not afraid of used parts you can build a beefy machine for 1000

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 6:52 PM

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A 3600 and 5700 will compliment each other quite nicely.

willow gorge Jul 20, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Maybe even a 5700XT since it's only 50 bucks more

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Be careful with that $50 more mentality

willow gorge Jul 20, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Also, I can't really go used since the local used market is not existent where I live

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 6:54 PM

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When I first built my budget was it $500, ended up spending $850 at the time.

willow gorge Jul 20, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Jeeez

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Was going to get an 8100 and a 1050 ti ended up with a good 8600k and a 1060.

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So just be careful, I fell into that "it's just a bit better for a bit more" trap and BAM I'm $350 over my budget.

willow gorge Jul 20, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Yeah I totally get what your saying

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But I Also I
Have to ship everything from the US since local prices are absurd

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Buying a GTX 1050 is like $230 and a single stick of 2666HMz 8gb of ram is $170

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Totally garbage prices here

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Ebay

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Get a hold of this bad boy

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willow gorge Jul 20, 2019, 7:03 PM

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It that still technically a blower style card?

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Thats a meme

willow gorge Jul 20, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Yeah I know, but if was real

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:04 PM

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It could not possibly exist

willow gorge Jul 20, 2019, 7:04 PM

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If it was real, is it still classified as a blower style?

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Possibly

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Thats a cooler right there

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NH-D15 Chromax from OC3D TVs Youtube

forest zealot Jul 20, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Looks like its still in the packaging

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Its got heatsink covers on it

forest zealot Jul 20, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Weird

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Not weird. Its something to add color

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As compared to this

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And for the reason as to why it cools so good

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Heatpipe time

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Still better than my Broken H100i GTX

willow gorge Jul 20, 2019, 7:12 PM

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I find these images strangely arousing

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Some people get hard to this

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I do

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 7:15 PM

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How do you power the second CPU fan?

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System header?

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:16 PM

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If thats what your worried about theres a lot of issues to be addressed

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You can power those fans with any 3 pin

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Most modern motherboards and cases have an abundance of fan headers

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 7:17 PM

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But won't the board think that it's just a system fan and won't ramp up for CPU heat?

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Do i need to link the manual

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Like I have my case fans set to max in bios. I've never thought about that.

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:18 PM

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It comes with a Y cable

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Oh so they're not independent from each other.

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Kinda sad

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:18 PM

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No

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You have a choice

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And it also comes with two low noise adapters too

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Then replacing fans is gonna be a pain

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:18 PM

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No

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https://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-d15/specification

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Do the research

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As long as the fan is 140mm you can reuse the mounting kit

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Woah that's cool!

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Noctua even sells the fans the cooler includes with in all black and in pwm

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So just in case u hate brown and tan

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 7:20 PM

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I've never seen these double fan models before. Usually I've seen people just go for liquid cooling instead of stronger air fans.

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Well liquid cooling looks cool

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Nobody likes brown and tan amir?

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 7:21 PM

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It does. I honestly hate dealing with liquid cooling.

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Yeah, that's ruin my color scheme too. What color scheme uses the tan and brown

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:21 PM

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I do too.

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But you can buy the fans in a black version if u want to

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 7:21 PM

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I've never seen a good tan and brown theme lol

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:22 PM

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I havent either but i bet there is someone out there reeeeeing now

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 7:22 PM

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XD

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"Don't insult my brown, it ain't that ugly"

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:24 PM

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What about green and black?

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gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 7:24 PM

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That looks cool, my current PC is black and blue, I'd love to see a black and blue verdion

little osprey Jul 20, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Let me look

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Closest i found

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And in red

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forest zealot Jul 20, 2019, 11:46 PM

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I like the silver and brown with visiable fins

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 11:46 PM

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B-brown? You like the brown?!

forest zealot Jul 20, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Yeah

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 11:46 PM

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I'mma hurl

forest zealot Jul 20, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Im a desert boy

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Do you yak when you see wood

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 11:47 PM

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@little osprey someone likes the brown. I guess I was wrong.

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Uhm

forest zealot Jul 20, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Or dirt

gloomy rock Jul 20, 2019, 11:48 PM

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If the wood or dirt is part of the computer color scheme

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Then yeah

cedar crane Jul 21, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Those Chromax accessories are amazing

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Im so proud of Noctua

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This is making me rethink getting the Kraken x52 and x62 for me and my buddys new builds

little osprey Jul 21, 2019, 12:22 AM

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You do you man. Im full of random useless knowledge and I have no money so.

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Every hobby i have is expensive

gloomy rock Jul 21, 2019, 12:22 AM

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^

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I like restoring old technology.

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Parts are expensive

little osprey Jul 21, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Indeed

clear pewter Jul 21, 2019, 12:53 AM

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can i ask a genuine question?

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does anyone else think that sleeper pcs are sick?

little osprey Jul 21, 2019, 1:19 AM

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Yes

fossil hedge Jul 21, 2019, 1:57 AM

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sleeper pcs, are art. I just love the idea of pulling out one in a LAN party and being like, "yeah I found this in attic, thought I might play some stuff" and then hooking it up to a mointer and ripping frames. If I ever went to partys, or had money, or freands.

crystal sigil Jul 21, 2019, 3:27 PM

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so I opened the graphics card I have because the fans weren't working I cleaned the fans even as to remove the fans from the motors and clean the inside of the motors and they still do the same thing they did before should I just get new fans or could it be a power issue?

lime forge Jul 21, 2019, 3:43 PM

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@crystal sigil the graphics card fans might not turn on until it gets to a certain temperature

sudden turret Jul 21, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Ideally no..

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the sleeper PCs

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maybe as a joke.. but all the time build, air flow would be so bad.

crystal sigil Jul 21, 2019, 3:45 PM

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it does have the fan stop function but they don't turn on when the card gets really hot and then the whole pc shuts down

sudden turret Jul 21, 2019, 3:50 PM

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if you opened it up you just voided your warranty

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16835186097?item=N82E16835186097&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-vga+cooling-_-N82E16835186097&gclid=CjwKCAjwmtDpBRAQEiwAC6lm42mI140H1xaOQ267IeNIZHa07jKH5kQP_eo-6Cde3oU1Ijt1KP1p-hoClW4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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@trim sun I believe used that same cooler on their NAVI card.

crystal sigil Jul 21, 2019, 3:53 PM

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i bought it used there wasn't a warranty

sudden turret Jul 21, 2019, 3:53 PM

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ah then I would get one of these coolers then

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https://www.newegg.com/white-arctic-cooling-accel-tt-ii/p/N82E16835186052

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on sale right now too

crystal sigil Jul 21, 2019, 3:53 PM

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would that fit it?

sudden turret Jul 21, 2019, 3:54 PM

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probably.

crystal sigil Jul 21, 2019, 3:54 PM

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its a gigabyte Aorus rx 580

sudden turret Jul 21, 2019, 3:54 PM

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ARCTIC Accelero TT II VGA Cooler - nVidia & AMD, Dual Quiet 92mm PWM Fans, SLI/CrossFire

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works on any card.

crystal sigil Jul 21, 2019, 3:55 PM

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ok so it will work on my aorus then

sudden turret Jul 21, 2019, 3:55 PM

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yep

crystal sigil Jul 21, 2019, 3:56 PM

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nice i'll pick it up

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thanks

crystal sigil Jul 21, 2019, 4:20 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16835186096?Description=Accelero twin turbo III&cm_re=Accelero_twin_turbo_III-_-35-186-096-_-Product

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would this one work too?

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i like the fact you don't have to individually glue the fins down

sudden turret Jul 21, 2019, 4:22 PM

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any accelero would probably work

crystal sigil Jul 21, 2019, 4:23 PM

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i just like that one is just a large finned block instead of seperate fins

cyan iris Jul 22, 2019, 4:42 AM

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Specs to pic in build pics
Main PC: Asus ROG X470-F, Ryzen 7 2700@ 3.8ghz, MSI Lightning Z 2080ti, 2x8 tridentZ RGB 3000mhz DDR4, EVGA 750w G2 Gold Supernova PSU, DEEPCOOL Castle 360ex CPU cooler, 4 Corsair HD120s for intake and 3 thermaltake riings for exhaust, 500gb m.2 ssd to boot, a terabyte and a half of sata SSD storage and two terabyte hdd storage

Stream PC: Gigabyte GA 970a-d3spFX, AMD FX 8350 @ 4.8ghz with a Hyper 212 Evo cooler, MSI GTX 960 4gb, 2x8 Kingston HyperX Red DDR3, Thermaltake Smart 500w Gold, 256gb SSD

compact cove Jul 22, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Can anyone give me some insight on the best possible build I can build and/or buy prebuilt for $1500 altogether, that's with tower and at least 144hz monitor

cedar crane Jul 22, 2019, 4:52 PM

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I would budget 300~ for a 27inch 144hz Monitor

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So leave yourself 1200 for the build

little osprey Jul 22, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Used monitor, and 27 inches for gaming is pretty pointless

cedar crane Jul 22, 2019, 5:02 PM

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I just threw together a build on pcpartpicker and with a 3600x x570 setup and a 5700 your looking at 1100 without a case

compact cove Jul 22, 2019, 8:01 PM

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Okay okay

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I'm trying to get like at least 180-200 fps

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Is 1200-1300 not enough to get something like that?

hazy seal Jul 22, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Depending on game, refresh rate, settings....

drifting vault Jul 22, 2019, 8:25 PM

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RICARDO MILOS

little osprey Jul 22, 2019, 8:28 PM

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@compact cove What game?

compact cove Jul 22, 2019, 8:38 PM

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@little osprey Fortnite

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Gonna have at least 144hz refresh

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Low settings

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Epic view distance

prisma trail Jul 22, 2019, 8:44 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tjCFBb @compact cove

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with enough room to spare to get a 144Hz 1080P monitor

compact cove Jul 22, 2019, 8:48 PM

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@prisma trail my man

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Shoot I could get a 240hz with the leftover cash

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I could find one used for like 250-300

prisma trail Jul 22, 2019, 8:48 PM

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the 2060's not gonna run 240Hz in anything

compact cove Jul 22, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Ah yeah I just saw that

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Forgot to account for that

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144hz is still really nice, not much noticeable difference

prisma trail Jul 22, 2019, 8:49 PM

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yeah

little osprey Jul 22, 2019, 8:55 PM

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nvm 😂

cedar crane Jul 22, 2019, 8:57 PM

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12-1300 isn't a terrible budget but you will need to pick and choose what you want the most

prisma trail Jul 22, 2019, 8:59 PM

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"12 to 1300 isn't a terrible budget"

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that' more than most people in here can spend

cedar crane Jul 22, 2019, 9:04 PM

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No but 200 FPS in Fortnite lol

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12-1300 isn't a terrible budget

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lol

chilly marsh Jul 22, 2019, 9:13 PM

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most people who either have a pc or will build one are around the range of 600 to 1000

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maybe a bit higher

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thats most of the people with their own pcs

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others with rly high end stuff are like in the L0 W percentages

agile bear Jul 22, 2019, 10:19 PM

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I would go for the non x skew r5

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Gamers nexus did a good video on how it’s matched by a easily overclocked 3600

little osprey Jul 22, 2019, 11:26 PM

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I would honestly never buy a 3600X its a waste. Same thing with the 3800X. The 3700X can be overclocked and the 3600 can be overclocked as well. I mean Im not innocent since I have a 3900X but, It was a gift.

halcyon ruin Jul 22, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Casual gift 3900x

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watcat

little osprey Jul 22, 2019, 11:27 PM

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The deal was I buy everything else for the computer

halcyon ruin Jul 22, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Ah

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Just wondering about the mobo tbh

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Crosshair hero seems the best

fluid raven Jul 22, 2019, 11:54 PM

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with proper optimization is the 3600x still not gonna be worth it

little osprey Jul 22, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Just dont spend extra money where it isnt needed is general rule of thumb. If you are truly a frugal man, you borrow case fans from friends and “borrow” their thermal paste. Use zip ties for all cable management. Also never buy anything thats not worth your money.

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I asked my friend for some stuff and he straight up gave me a graphics card

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And 2 fans

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And to this day i still have it, Refrence GTX 970

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Reference*?

fluid raven Jul 23, 2019, 12:00 AM

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Reference

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Yeah I'm just looking to get a processor that I don't want to upgrade for a while and I'm looking for a good tier. I guess I should just get a 3700 if I can

little osprey Jul 23, 2019, 12:49 AM

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I think the C8H is a great board to pair with the 3900x, you could go cheaper with the Aorus Elite, or about equal on the Master IMO.

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@fluid raven Depending on budget I think the 3700x could be a fine pick, people seem to like the Asus x570 TUF board for budget builds. I agree the 3600x isn't worth the $50 premium to most users, but I'd definitely check out each CPU's current combo deals. https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCombos?Item=19-113-569&SubCategory=343&SortField=0

fluid raven Jul 23, 2019, 12:53 AM

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is the non x 3700 sold out or somethin

little osprey Jul 23, 2019, 12:55 AM

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AFAIK there is no 3700, just the 3600, 3600x, 3700x, 3800x,3900x right now

fluid raven Jul 23, 2019, 12:55 AM

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ohh

little osprey Jul 23, 2019, 12:55 AM

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Is it a no-no to mention other online retailers here? e.g. 3700x is sold out on newegg at $329 but not on amazon?

fluid raven Jul 23, 2019, 12:56 AM

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It's not forbidden

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3700x bundles kinda expensive

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I want something inbetween 3700x and 3600, but 3600x ain't worth it I guess

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cryingweeb

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There are pretty decently priced 3600x bundles though

fossil hedge Jul 23, 2019, 4:44 AM

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📎 glass_v2.png

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I made dis

chilly marsh Jul 23, 2019, 4:46 AM

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random but cool

lime forge Jul 23, 2019, 4:51 AM

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ill take ten of them

slate sun Jul 23, 2019, 1:35 PM

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Yes, just buy all non rgb components 😛

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or going with a fanless case that uses all cooper pipes and heatsyncs

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not sure how viable they are with how hot procs and video cards can get now a days but there would be no RGB

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Yeah just go noctua

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best fans you can buy and they are tan with brown blades

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NH-d15 for the CPU cooler as well

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Well it depends on the case and fans you get

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Most of them have a controller that you can just plug everything in

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then they sync automatically

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Even mismatched fans will work if your mobo has a controller on it

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😛 I hear yah

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I dont mind RGB anymore, it honestly looks cool even with my mismatched RAM

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I mean they sync but I have all the case fans on just blue with no effects

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My case has that

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Corsair 570x, has buttons right on the top for Fan and color control

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Yeah most manufactures have went pretty hardcore on RGB the last few years so its really easy to find the components and case that will match your liking

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Just did a new build after 7 years (thank god) and I am loving the look and performance I am getting

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Well if you are going to do RGB I would suggest Corsair or Thermaltake. They have really good RGB solutions that don't sacrifice air flow. Running fully air cooled and getting pretty decent temps

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Yeah they used to make just RAM but they really ramped up and start pumping all all peripherals and pc accessories. I have used their cases for the last 2 builds and have been very happy

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Not my build but this is the case I got

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📎 Corsair_Crystal_Series_570X_RGB_grande.png

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That one they actually put the SATA LED strips down the side

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What do you need the cd drive for? They have external usb ones that work well

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Not to pry lol

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got yah, its just nowadays you can dl everything from the internet and install OS and anything else from USB

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got yah 😛

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I like not having one sticking out of the front so I am fine with an external

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but I understand thats personal taste XD

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The only thing it doesn't have that may be a turn off for some is a reset button

hazy seal Jul 23, 2019, 1:57 PM

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CD......DVD...... what’s that.... lol

slate sun Jul 23, 2019, 1:57 PM

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I honestly haven't used mine in any case

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I think its kin to the 8 track and 5 1/2 floppy 😛

hazy seal Jul 23, 2019, 1:57 PM

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I own an 8 track.....

slate sun Jul 23, 2019, 1:57 PM

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So do I :/

hazy seal Jul 23, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Hell.... I have my original Atari still

slate sun Jul 23, 2019, 1:58 PM

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well I have my grandmas Atari since that was before my time 😛 Even have a copy of ET and Star Wars

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So freaking excited though, just ordered the last part for my build and the beast is complete 😃

hazy seal Jul 23, 2019, 2:02 PM

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Didn’t say I use it.... just have it... lol

slate sun Jul 23, 2019, 2:06 PM

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:p

snow stag Jul 24, 2019, 3:17 AM

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wait is this the chat to ask if the parts i picked are good or

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iss my first build so i wanna see if it is good or not

hazy seal Jul 24, 2019, 3:18 AM

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Yep..

snow stag Jul 24, 2019, 3:19 AM

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so i picked my parts on pcpartpicker so imma just send a pic and tell me if iss good for like games that need go pcs like gta

hazy seal Jul 24, 2019, 3:20 AM

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Send the link from the site.. that lets everyone see it and adjust

snow stag Jul 24, 2019, 3:20 AM

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good* mb i can’t type on my phone

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alright

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T9vZkd

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trying to make it a $500 build

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i think iss good enough for a $500 build but just tell me if there’s better stuff i can use or things i should add

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i’m gonna go on midweek madness to get a better power supply too

hazy seal Jul 24, 2019, 3:22 AM

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I’d go 650+ on PSU.. but looks good for a cheep build

snow stag Jul 24, 2019, 3:23 AM

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is it better to have a better psu?

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does it like boost performance in the pc

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or

hazy seal Jul 24, 2019, 3:23 AM

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I always vote 750+ but I like to make sure you have enough power

snow stag Jul 24, 2019, 3:23 AM

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ohhh

hazy seal Jul 24, 2019, 3:23 AM

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It makes sure all your parts have the proper power

snow stag Jul 24, 2019, 3:23 AM

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okay thank you

hazy seal Jul 24, 2019, 3:23 AM

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But a wise man said 650 is good for most builds...’

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And it is... I say 750... but I’m not always wise

snow stag Jul 24, 2019, 3:24 AM

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LOL

dusk snow Jul 24, 2019, 3:38 AM

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It'll give you room to grow should you upgrade to a more powerful/powerhungry setup in the future.

chrome yarrow Jul 24, 2019, 3:39 AM

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what is a good affordable Motherboard i have an old one and want to start updating

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https://www.newegg.com/asrock-fatal1ty-b450-gaming-k4/p/N82E16813157840

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is this a good board?

prisma trail Jul 24, 2019, 3:48 AM

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yep, that's a fine board

gentle island Jul 24, 2019, 11:37 AM

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So.. Is the rating on the psu really have a difference. Between bronze and gold ?

little osprey Jul 24, 2019, 12:14 PM

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Yes, as per 80+ specs, however, most 80+ gold PSU's will also have more protection features and higher quality components/design.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

cedar crane Jul 24, 2019, 12:52 PM

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I would stick to Gold if you can

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Its not entirely necessary to go up from there unless your really OCing alot or something

fossil hedge Jul 24, 2019, 2:46 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/579494285523812352/603444272863117312/ruiner_v2.png?width=500&height=245

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RUINER mask. I made dis

vocal totem Jul 24, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Just built a new desktop. Its posting and when I go to install windows it hangs at either the windows or mobo logo. Anyone have any ideas? Most things I'm finding online are if you already have windows installed or if it hangs after getting into the installer

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:25 PM

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You installing from a USB? Is UEFI Boot enabled? Have to tried turning on or off secureboot?

vocal totem Jul 24, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Uefi is enabled. I've tried from both a usb drive and a usb disk drive with the install disk. Doesnt seem to let me disable secure boot.

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Got yah, have you tried a BIOS update?

vocal totem Jul 24, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Its enabled but grayed out. That's the next thing I'm gonna try. I just have to find a second usb

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Depending on the board day 1 BIOS can cause issues

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Which motherboard do you have?

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It may have the ability to connect to the internet and DL them for you

vocal totem Jul 24, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Rog strix z390. Cant remember off the top of my head if it's the e or i

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E

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Got yah, which processor?

vocal totem Jul 24, 2019, 4:30 PM

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I79700k

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Okay, yeah I think that board supports Internet update but let me check

vocal totem Jul 24, 2019, 4:31 PM

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It does

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:31 PM

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yeah would check that then. Does it have flashback or multiple BIOS versions it can support?

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Looks like the latest BIOS revision is from July 1st

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Has some system and DIMM performance improvements

little osprey Jul 24, 2019, 4:33 PM

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I have a friend with a z390 E and 9700k running fine on stock bios, hard to say if both boards have the same bios as shipped though

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:33 PM

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yeah depends on the manufacture date really

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Other than that I would start troubleshooting components. RAM is the first place I would start

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try with one stick and then the other if you have multiple sticks

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make sure the CPU power is plugged in tight

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same with mobo pin

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Then just make sure you have stable power going to it and you should be fine

little osprey Jul 24, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Oh, flashback specifically means being able to flash without cpu/ram

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You can still flash using a fat32 usb

vocal totem Jul 24, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Alright.

little osprey Jul 24, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Flashback is asus's brand term I think, but everyone calls it that now

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i.e. cpu-less flashing

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:38 PM

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okay i guess its like qflash and all that

little osprey Jul 24, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Ya, all those silly names haha

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:38 PM

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I thought it was the multiple bios versions

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I know a lot of ASUS boards have the button on the back to go back a version

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Doesn't look that one does though

serene obsidian Jul 24, 2019, 4:44 PM

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I’m planning on building my first pc in the upcoming months and I was wondering if I sent the part list here if someone could take a look at it and give me any pointers on what to change

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:44 PM

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sure thing

serene obsidian Jul 24, 2019, 4:44 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FzW67W

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Thank you

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Not bad, would say that is a decent high- mid tier build

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Should get decent frames at 1080P depending on the game

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Any questions you have specifically?

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Well only suggestions I would make is go with a gold certified power supply. worth the 5-10 bucks more you might spend

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it will give you more stable power and a little better performance if you decided to overclock

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and they generally last a lot longer

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other than that I think you did good!

serene obsidian Jul 24, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Oh ok. Thank you. How difficult is building a pc?

little osprey Jul 24, 2019, 4:49 PM

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I'd definitely not get that monitor at that price new

hazy seal Jul 24, 2019, 4:50 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:50 PM

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^

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Its pretty easy and there are a lot of great resources online

little osprey Jul 24, 2019, 4:50 PM

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And ya, I'd agree, spend $80 ish on some 650-750W 80+ Gold like an EVGA G3, RM750x, Seasonic Focus / focus plus / prime gold.

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Seasonic makes really solid PSUs as well

little osprey Jul 24, 2019, 4:52 PM

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I'd recommend trying to free up a bit of cash to go for a 3600 + x570 budget board for $330ish on combo

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:52 PM

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yeah, that would be a huge upgrade

lime forge Jul 24, 2019, 4:53 PM

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told my neighbor i wanted to build a pc and her eyes went wide and she was like 'you want to build a pc??'

serene obsidian Jul 24, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Oh ok. I’ll definitely start saving to make some room for that

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Thanks for the feedback

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Not a problem!

little osprey Jul 24, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Haha I get so invested in these

slate sun Jul 24, 2019, 4:55 PM

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I think building or even just spec'ing out is my favorite part

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I like OCing and seeing what I can get it to do but its just really fun building something

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https://www.newegg.com/insider/building-a-gaming-pc-for-the-first-time-dont-panic-this-guide-can-help-you-out/

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Some reading material for when you are ready 😃

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https://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-build-a-gaming-pc-a-beginners-guide/

pcgamer

How to build a gaming PC

This is our easy walkthrough to building a PC for the first time, with a video showing each step of the process.

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This one has more pictures if you need visual