@burnt atlas Finally got semi-automated steam power
#gaming
manic mural
And I still can't figure out how to start with sulfur
Annnnd I knew it, it's still not enough wood, even with the 4 algae farms
I'm dumb, I found sulfur
halcyon fossil
@calm reef i have a quest 3 actually
calm reef
manic mural
All this new crap that comes with sulfur is just.... ugh...
this is brutal
past smelt
pc
last tide
Should i get a prebuilt since i have no conpuer building skills and in scared im gonna mess up expensive parts
past smelt
Look up PC building videos on YouTube.
Watch LinusTechTips, Bitwit, Jay2Cents etc...
Then buy the parts you want.
Build it.
delicate fossil
@fleet anvil I have a razer mouse that goes to 16000 dpi and I only use it at 2300
1900 -2500 is the sweet spot idk how people use sub 1000 dpi it feels sooo slooww
glass temple
windows mouse sensitivity and in game sensitivity exist ya know
@last tide wait for AMD to release new GPUs and CPUs, then build a pc. It will have less performance than this years consoles at the same price point, but it will allow for upgrading in the future.
Also keep in mind Sony and Microsoft make money not from the consoles but from being able to charge their own prices for games/prices don't go down as much as PC games
solar island
im buying web server on new egg 🙂
fleet anvil
Just got an email update from Amazon. My Oculus Link cable arrives Thursday, on the 15th. (Already had an email that the Quest 2 will arrive Tuesday, on the 13th for me.)
bronze glade
No update from oculus about preorder shipping?
daring sleet
tawdry kernel
im looking into vr gaming one day but I would never buy from oculus because I heard you have to connect to facebook servers to use it :/
full wing
It’s getting closer
calm reef
You need Facebook account
bronze glade
What’s huge deal about it? @tawdry kernel
If data thingy is bothering you just create a new Facebook account for VR/Gaming
calm reef
the concern is with facebook's account requirements. they basically require you to use your real name and info, if you dont they lock your account
bronze glade
Right just do it just don’t have to put your real profile picture of yourself. Like you did for everything you signed up for, steam, Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo, etc
They all require account and they all have social connections
Or network
But each of them have their own ways of connecting to your Friends and family
@calm reef
Facebook is bigger than any of them
calm reef
many people, myself included are just against facebook. if don't have account already they dont want to make one. facebook is just scary, the only thing i have on my account is a name and half the "people you may know" are all friends and family some even being very distant
bronze glade
I understand.
It won’t bite you if you sign up and don’t put up too much personal info
You can adjust that on Facebook settings
Facebook has their own settings where you can adjust your privacy info
So others can’t see at all
It’s not bad. But its what it is nowadays lol.
It’s nice to have Facebook to keep in touch with family and friends
@calm reef
burnt atlas
facebook should be a choice. not something forced
burnt atlas
no one forces you to buy a playstation or a xbox
bronze glade
Same for oculus
burnt atlas
the part that people dont like about the oculus change is that it has come AFTER people had hardware
bronze glade
No one is forcing you to buy quest
bronze glade
Ah I see so people are complaining about the change from oculus account to Facebook account by 23?
2023
burnt atlas
that is part of it
bronze glade
Now I understand
burnt atlas
also consider it a "slippery slope" kind of situation
burnt atlas
also, for those that have been around a long time
calm reef
it used to be a oculus account, problem is the facebook site is primarily social media, not a account for games like xbox or playstation, basically forcing people to get a social media account
bronze glade
Quest 2 will be my first so yeah lol
burnt atlas
there is the whole "deja-vu" of micro transactions/games-as-a-service
this is something that gamers brought on to themselves exactly because they went "oh, its not that going to be THAT bad"
turns out. Its way worse
bronze glade
I understand but that’s why I’m suggesting you to create a separate Facebook account for gaming only
burnt atlas
its trivial for them to tie that one to your actual account on their end
calm reef
true
bronze glade
That way you don’t need to mess with privacy setting
burnt atlas
people should NOT have to "sandbox" their activities like this
bronze glade
On your main account I mean
calm reef
idk about facebook but i know other sites that specify 1 account per user
bronze glade
Yes
burnt atlas
everything is fine for 2-3 years
bronze glade
Ok
burnt atlas
facebook changes their rules to "1 account per user"
bronze glade
Hm how? And why
burnt atlas
question: what happens to the second account?
bronze glade
They shouldn’t ban your second account
burnt atlas
"should" and reality of what will happen are very very rarely the same thing
lets push the experiment a bit further
bronze glade
Let’s say you have two Xbox account
burnt atlas
lets say you have a second account
calm reef
actually i still can't find one of my facebook account, there was one i used for a game a year or 2 ago but it seems to not exist anymore
bronze glade
I think it’s the same thing
burnt atlas
it has been tied to your first account on the backend
meaning, you cannot see the tie between the accounts, but facebook can
Facebook does the aforementioned change of "1 account per user"
you wake up one morning with all your game history merged into your main account
bronze glade
Ok true I guess I don’t know much really but I thought people saying it’s okay to have two account
bronze glade
Lol
calm reef
reminds me of osu, when i went to sign on to someone else's account it said warning, this installation of osu has been previously signed into another account, and that there is a 1 account per user rule
burnt atlas
because Facebook is not exactly known for NOT making random changes and then NOT listening to feedback for years about it
calm reef
like the random choice of no longer using oculus accounts 😔
bronze glade
I understand
burnt atlas
also, as a european, i have bugger all faith in the US legal system doing anything about a US company playing mad-inventor with things
calm reef
point is some people don't have an issue with this, but others find it as a big threat. we don't want other companies forcing something like this on users in the future. there is good chance other companies might try seeing facebook doing it
tawdry kernel
nicely said and also by being forced to tie your oculus to an account they are able to remember every game and the time you played it for so they can serve you better advertising around the web
just an all around privacy nightmare for hardware you own imo
full wing
So something odd is going on
i used to be able to get 120fps on beatsaber and such
now im only getting 60 total fps
its not the refreshrate on the headset
fpsvr shows 60 total
65ish
could it be due to me having 3 monitors now?
bronze glade
Try compare it by unplugging your third monitor
@full wing
See if it’s showing same result or not
I think the more screens the lesser FPS you get
Depending on how much stuff you have opened on pc
Try close down everything and use vr and the game that’s it
See what’s the result
bronze glade
No I mean your cpu
full wing
bronze glade
CPU can effect fps
full wing
im using a valve index
calm reef
does it feel like 60hz
calm reef
could be false fps reading
full wing
it just still is at 60
could be
but its alot smoother now
i was in steamvr beta
and nvidia control panel had some changes
so I reset both
and it works now.
I just didnt think it would be the cause
from what I was reading it could be due to shader cache
its on a harddrive
full wing
I had set everything to suggested presets
So people suggested stuff
To try to add to performance
And clearly it broke it
But why vr be the one
I've been playing games without issues
bronze glade
ok i understand
manic mural
god damn it
@burnt atlas just when I thought I solved my energy problem by switching to use charcoal....
130/m produced, ~135/m used
that's fun
Anything I should do other than ramp up wood production?
manic mural
I doubled my wood/charcoal/power production.
bronze glade
i just got my tracking number from oculus and will get it by tomorrow or Wednesday very excited
you all who preordered sept 16 should get sale invoice today
delicate fossil
Anyone here who play forza horizon 4 know if it's possible to take your ingame photos at 4k rather than only 1080p ? (Im running 4k monitor)
@idle garnet im only @'ng because im taking a guess u play from ur pfp
idle garnet
I think with geforce experience you can use ansel or whatever and take pictures using nvidias thing @delicate fossil
and upscale to 4k
delicate fossil
@idle garnet oh man I sound real dumb but what's the ingame key on controller or keyboard to bring up experience
past smelt
Quest 2 should ship today.
fleet anvil
Mine already shipped according to Amazon. Its currently close, and scheduled to be delivered today.
rapid dawn
Same here
fleet anvil
Mine was delivered this morning. Put in my room before going out to work.
delicate fossil
Anyone else here play phasmophobia in vr and wanna join my friends and I in a game sometime
delicate fossil
i figured out the 4k uwu
delicate fossil
manic mural
@burnt atlas any possibility you could give me your train thingy BP book for factorio? I think I might start a new vanilla playthrough and start using a grid base.
And also, what settings would make for a fun game?
calm reef
2070
halcyon fossil
ah
get quest and link
i recommend.
also if u have wifi 6 router
could get wifi chip for ur pc
calm reef
i think my isp i switched to actually just gave us a wifi 6 router
halcyon fossil
nice
calm reef
can it work to pc via ethernet?
halcyon fossil
??
calm reef
like pc dont need wifi right?
halcyon fossil
yeah
pc can be connected with ethernet
but router has to be wifi 6
ive never tried any wireless and its probably not the best for fast beat saber
but
¯_(ツ)_/¯
good for other stuff
that video was a bit misleading, it kinda makes it seem like its not that great of a pcvr headset when its probably like the 3rd or 2nd best...
calm reef
yes thrill also said he'd rather link for beat saber
calm reef
reason why i like to see thrills reviews is i see him be a bit hard on some headsets, so if he says link is not a problem than i might feel safe haha. i dont see many other reviewers compare link to pcvr latency or maybe i just not familiar
delicate fossil
Bruh moment none of y'all use index and beatsaber?
144hz
Massive advantage over everything else
Thats how u crush scores (if ur good in the first place LOL)
burnt atlas
@manic mural i could share the BP book, but it is a royal mess
manic mural
lol
burnt atlas
and i think i have my rail setups spread across multiple books tbh
as in
i know i have one for defense related
but it also has the loading station for a 2-4 train setup
with a 3 train stacker on it
etc etc etc
it is just a mess
manic mural
aw
@burnt atlas any tips to start up?
a grid base?
and what game settings to play for fun?
burnt atlas
well, i personally really enjoy the deathworld/railworld mix
burnt atlas
BUT, that can be a very very slow ramp of things. and you have to do some serious work on the expansion side and especially on the map gen side
south basin
When did you order the quest, @past smelt? I ordered mine awhile back but idk when it’s shipping’s
Mmmmmainly cause my mother forgot to tell me first
past smelt
September 15th ish.
south basin
From oculus? I can’t wait to get mine buuuut people are saying that if you ordered from oculus then it’ll be longer. The delivery time, I mean.
burnt atlas
there are some settings that i can recommend tuning thou @manic mural
past smelt
Oh just FYI for all the people that ordered the Quest 2 on preorder from Oculus website.
It never told me it shipped it just said all of a sudden it's out for delivery. BE PREPAIRED FOR A SURPRISE PACKAGE at your door aperaently. 😂
burnt atlas
i will jump in game later and grab some screenshots
manic mural
alright
past smelt
Nah
manic mural
I really want to start up a new (mostly) vanilla game and do it correctly
past smelt
I think it must of shipped around October 13th which was the release and BAM it's already here today.
So IDK
burnt atlas
@manic mural you able to jump on a voice/stream call later?
because then we can have a chat about "why/where/how"
south basin
Noice! Mine was pre-ordered on the 19th! @past smelt
manic mural
uh maybe
past smelt
Then be ready for an email saying it's arriving I guess. XD
manic mural
I'm trying to gauge how much time this homework is going to take
burnt atlas
as in, you really just have to listen and be able to watch @manic mural
burnt atlas
@manic mural aye aye, no rush, it could be another day too
manic mural
think we can talk tomorrow? Just want to clear out enough time for this thing
halcyon fossil
nice
past smelt
Today is the day after release date and it's already here.
That's freaking good timing on Oculus and UPS part.
south basin
I just got the barebones! My mom (I know how that sounds) wanted to get the strap and link but I didn’t want her to spend too much!
I’m so excited to get it!!!!
past smelt
halcyon fossil
no idea
i also have no idea how youre going to 3d print a data cable lol but be my guest
past smelt
south basin
Meant just the head strap, sorry for the phrasing
past smelt
Use copper filament. 
halcyon fossil
south basin
Lol, that would be interesting.
Though I don’t use metal 3d prints like that soooo if I bought a 3d printer that could do that then I’d have to start printing to get my moneys worth.
past smelt
I don't think printers can print metal.
south basin
They can, their’s those really big industrial 3d printers that melt metal dust and crap.
Normal ones can’t, obviously
past smelt
So I looked it up and there is legit metal filament.
In all different types of metal.
south basin
Really? How crappy are the metals?
past smelt
I don't see how that would work the property's of metal are just flat out different and behave different than the plastic filaments.
There must be a printer that's made to print with metal filament.
south basin
Their’s some in consumer space, though I hear they suck since they require a mix of metal and plastic. Lemme look it up
Ok, nope. It’s just the filament with metal bits inside of it.
Imagine resin printing metal parts? Definitely not possible buuut it would be interesting to see. Wrong channel, sorry.
What games should I get for the quest though?
burnt atlas
dont worry too much about it being the wrong channel :)
(you are posting things that are actual things, and not just spamming random keystrokes :) )
south basin
Thanks! I really wanna get saints and sinners buuuut beatsaber and pistols whip look amaziiiiing!
full wing
2009 goty edition plants vs zombies on a 3080 😂
manic mural
hi
rich canopy
fleet anvil
Just got an update on my oculus link from Amazon. Got delayed, but they shipped it now. Suppose to arrive friday.
halcyon fossil
that was fast
past smelt
LOL
fleet anvil
I'm still waiting for my link. The included cable is only USB 2.0, so bandwidth is limited apparently. Gotta get a USB 3.0 for best performance
halcyon fossil
how is it @past smelt
blown away by the power of qualcomm xr2?
or is it just fine
calm reef
new ui looks wierd
calm reef
yes bryce tell me, trying to convince parents to let me get
past smelt
Dude
It's smooth as Hell.
I'd say the visuals are 2X better than the Rift S.
The smoothness is also notably better.
halcyon fossil
well that would make sense since its +10hz and over 50% more resolution
past smelt
It's a bit annoying with my glasses but that's to be expected.
I ordered some lenses for the Quest 2 but they're gonna take a few weeks to be made.
I'm gonna use it as a standalone headset for a while.
Then go to PC and compare.
halcyon fossil
whatd you play?
calm reef
yes i want to know how it is with pc too
past smelt
Only game I have on Oculus and Steam is Beat Saber.
halcyon fossil
ah
past smelt
All my other VR games are on Steam.
fleet anvil
Only VR game I have is Table Top Sim, and Star Wars Squadron.
Both are Steam games. And unfortunately, still have a couple more days until my Oculus Link arrives
halcyon fossil
imma try my best to only buy vr games from steam
past smelt
Once I get the lenses inverts I'll be good.
Last piece I need.
The glasses really ruin the full experience.
You can never adjust your headset right because you have glasses in the way. So annoying.
calm reef
that could possibly be a problem for me
ive tried a vive pro briefly and it wasnt too much trouble but smaller headset hmm
bronze glade
I just opened my oculus quest 2 and I love it!
I just ordered link cable
Should get it by tomorrow hopefully
near steppe
past smelt
So the Oculus hand tracking is not only spot on but it's outright creepy how far we are advancing with VR technology.
The hand tracking worked so well that the hands that I could see in VR were almost exact size replicas of my own hands.
Facebook taking over the world?
fleet anvil
Did you happen to look at your hands? I mean, the headset has outside cameras too, so you can still see what's around you outside the vr.
fleet anvil
They need to know your hand size, so they can get your ring size and start showing engagement ring advertisements.
Also, with all the social media information they collect, your interests, location, etc.. And now, they can collect your hand size too..
They're preparing to make exact clones/duplicates of you. Replace you with a Facebook Robot!
past smelt
Yeah the hand tracking is great.
full wing
I’ll be back after Christmas/whenever big navi releases to ask what’s the best graphics card under $500-whaterver I can scrounge up before then
neon spire
Does anyone have any idea why the color green would stop working in cs:go? Like the bright green color that shows your xp gain after each match is grey, the circle that shows the bomb defuse is grey, ect. Ive ruled out the monitor being the issue, is uninstalled and reinstalled the game. I reset to default settings
manic mural
@neon spire maybe colorblind mode somewhere
neon spire
@manic mural wouldn’t that effect more than 1 color?
manic mural
not really
there's different kinds of color blindness
(and types of color blindness settings)
delicate fossil
@neon spire maybe you've gone colorblind urself
neon spire
@neon spire maybe you've gone colorblind urself
@delicate fossil 😂😂😂. Confirmed by my wife as well.
I’m going to get some screen shots today after work
silent valve
I made a bamboo house 😄
untold star
Vr or 4K monitor
wise vessel
untold star
Okay I going vr
Zach is this okay to get
I have a usb-c on my mobo
But I also have usb
halcyon fossil
i literally do not know
only one i can guarantee to work is the official oculus cable
bronze glade
@halcyon fossil yes you’re right
I tried using my Nintendo switch cable and nope doesn’t work
You need oculus link cable
I got mine yesterday
Works beautifully
halcyon fossil
some other 3rd party cables can work
but i dont know which ones they are
i know its a lot more expensive, but the link cable is guaranteed to work (as in the cable wont be the issue if something fails) and also its designed specifically for the quest, with a 15m length and 90 degree connector on the headset, plus a clip to hold it to the headband
burnt atlas
@bronze glade the switch cable is a custom one iirc.
if you are talking about the original one
bronze glade
Yeah
south basin
UUUUUGH, the quest is taking foreeever to come
neon spire
@manic mural wanna know how dumb I am? The color issue was just a setting on my monitor🤦♂️
I changed it to a preset for FPS and it removed 90% of the green for some reason.
manic mural
Colorblind mode?
manic mural
Lol
neon spire
Dunno what the logic behind removing greens in an FPS is
It almost completely@removes green, dullsthe other colors, sometimes to a grey, and makes reds more vibrant
Don’t see the benefit at all
Probably won’t buy msi monitors in the future honestly
rapid dawn
Has anyone had problems trying to download and install the oculus desktop app?
strange jackal
does the oculus rift S use lighthouses?
halcyon fossil
nope, cameras inside the headset
i dont recommend buying rift s though
get a quest 2
strange jackal
why?
novel locust
quest 2 better
strange jackal
doesn't the quest 2 rely on internal processors?
midnight portal
Yes thats the whole point
strange jackal
but I have a good computer that the internal processors can't compete with
midnight portal
Well then wait till the hp reverb g2 comes out
strange jackal
are there any reviews on it?
midnight portal
Well it hasn't come out yet so no but its supposed to be the most graphicaly advanced vr headset
strange jackal
I'll keep an eye on it
calm reef
can use quest 2 with pc
if you have fast enough router you can even play from pc steamvr wirelessly to quest 2
calm reef
not sure why but i wanted to try 25ms lag on pen
full wing
can use quest 2 with pc
@calm reef
Yes, you can if you have a USB 3.0 to USB type C
manic mural
not always
@full wing only some cables like to work
oculus link is the only guaranteed one
calm reef
many modern systems now have usb c
full wing
True true
full wing
Is it worth getting the Quest 2 with more storage?
Also the bundle like the elite strap and extra battery with the travel case
calm reef
if you will primarily use it standalone and download a lot of games than maybe more storage will help
elite strap is a necessity if you play for long sessions really, battery strap is your choice
full wing
Alright thank you
true spindle
Hello, what's the budget option for VR gaming?
halcyon fossil
quest 2
true spindle
Why does it have different size options e.g 64GB vs 256GB. I thought the games would be downloaded/stored on your PC?
calm reef
is standalone or pcvr if you buy a link cable
doesnt need pc but if you have pc it work with steamvr
full wing
Its a standalone and pcvr mix thing but fr what I have heard it works really well
calm reef
Hybrid
halcyon fossil
quest 2, the nintendo switch of the vr market
use it portably with a little hit on performance, or plug it into a pc for good visuals
vocal rover
I have a quest 2, and it’s great
halcyon fossil
and even though its not as powerful as the rest of the competition, it still is arguably more fun than them
quest 2 switch analogy is perfect
vocal rover
Also the link cable is way overpriced, I got a off brand one for $15 that works great
halcyon fossil
is it 15 meters long, 90 degree on the headset connector part, and includes a clip to hold it to the side of the headband?
calm reef
people still get the official because it is long, fibre, a bit flexible, and high bandwidth, also guaranteed to work flawlessly. but ofc get what you will be satisfied with 🙂
strange jackal
does the quest link also provide power?
calm reef
yes, i believe it was said that when using link battery still go down but very slow
full wing
Did they upgrade the battery like for the oculus quest 2 or did they say 2-3 hours on average?
If it’s that low I may as well get the extra battery life for the quest
calm reef
yes about 2-3hrs standalone
minor kite
@calm reef how does one play wirelessly quest from PC
calm reef
virtual desktop
working at 90hz now even
do need a good router, 5ghz or wifi 6 best id say
as if ghost wasnt fast enough already lmao
manic mural
@burnt atlas anyways, can you tell me what world gen settings to make a fun world for vanillia Factorio playthrough?
Side note:
https://youtu.be/2MnXgqCxMIg
wooden cove
CPU
AMD FX-8350 4 GHz 8-Core Processor $380.45
CPU Cooler
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $34.99
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Memory
Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1333 CL9 Memory
Video Card
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card
Case
NZXT Tempest 410 Elite ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNOVA P2 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
manic mural
@wooden cove what about it
wooden cove
It is what i have now and am in need of another. Posted it for the hell of it.
General opinions and all.
manic mural
For an upgrade..?
wooden cove
Nothing about it that i can keep. It is all outdated.
manic mural
Prob something like 3600+B550+3600c16 2x8gb ram to start off
the PSU can be kept
P2 is great
and depending on budget, 1060 can be kept until 3070/3080/3090 become avaliable
manic mural
What's gonna be the overall budget for the upgrade?
manic mural
When are you gonna upgrade?
it's 8:06 am here xD
@wooden cove assuming you can wait for AMD launch, here's a list for you to look at to start off
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dfnBPV
And also assuming USD, and in US
Just @ me again when you see this, and tell me if you're not in the US, or can't wait for AMD launch, or anything about the list.
wooden cove
i put together a build based on a bitwit recomendation
cant remember how to get it from partpicker
yours is really close to what i want
manic mural
uhhh not that similar to your list but yea xD
@wooden cove to start off, your P2 is quite a bit better than Silverstone essential lel
case wise is personal preference, if you want like a P400a/P500a/4000d/220t airflow/td500 mesh/h500 no suffix, go for it
and what storage do you currently have?
Ram wise, 3600mhz cl16 is preferred for Ryzen 3rd gen, and soon to be Ryzen 5th gen.
and CPU wise, again Ryzen 5th gen is coming pretty soon, Nov 5th
and with 20% claimed iPC gain, and claimed better performance than Intel, that's worth waiting for.
prisma solar
hi
gilded lion
so guys
i get
really terrible minecraft java fps
with optifine installed
like 35ish
i have 1600 AF and RX 570
16 chunk render distance
what do i do this is terrible i cant pvp
novel locust
If u have friends to play with ofc it is
tame cobalt
I'm a fan of classic warfare myself 😤 😤
manic mural
@burnt atlas started death rail world, finished clearing out first encampment, why the hell are there worms in the trees?
burnt atlas
you dont
manic mural
spam grenades and just kill the forest?
burnt atlas
learn to dodge and outflank/out reach
rocket launcher is going to make your life a LOT easier
also, turrets
manic mural
yea I'm using turrets to crawl up to em for other encampments
gonna push out while these guys are still weak
burnt atlas
even distro can help you a lot
you might want to configure it thou
and also get used to to "take half of the ammo/content" from a turret shortcut
i believe its shift?
do remember, right groups like that can get destroyed by worm acid
because its not a "point" hit
its a AOE basically
novel locust
What game is that
burnt atlas
factorio
manic mural
@burnt atlas alright, finished clearing out the spots in red so far, semi-secured oil fields, should I focus on pushing north towards where the next patch of coal is?
map including polution:
burnt atlas
so i would focus on knocking that out fairly quickly :)
manic mural
but @burnt atlas does that mean expansion?
burnt atlas
it means evolution and expansion
manic mural
Also, can the worms evolve and expand?
burnt atlas
nope, worms worm.
manic mural
because they're too annoying to deal with atm, so I'll let them chill if they can't expand
aight
burnt atlas
and your map is still open enough that it wont matter in the grander scheme
manic mural
BTW, found out top right is connected by 1 tile
might just waterfill that lel
or just wall it the hell off
burnt atlas
and yes, north imo could be practical to grab the coal
manic mural
I'll deal with immediate threats then go north for coal
after grabbing that coal from north, should I just use that coal for steam?
(move power up)
burnt atlas
north, then circle over west and go down
IF you move your power up, you move pollution up too
rail world = rail use :)
also, let me just mark it on the map
all 3 of those are going "nom nom nom"
burnt atlas
when ever you see "clear" areas around a biter base
manic mural
I was going to go up north but I spent all my ammo so I went back
burnt atlas
not with it that far out on the sides
manic mural
got it
burnt atlas
trees ofc help
manic mural
which do you think is most important to tackle first?
burnt atlas
north
manic mural
I've been getting fairly constant attacks from west and south
I didn't think much about it
alright
burnt atlas
that looks like desert up there
manic mural
yea it is
manic mural
tbh west has been attacking me from the past like half an hour, I'm gonna grab that next
burnt atlas
and it will "secure" a flank for you
aye aye, ofc :)
also, keep in mind.
see all the green?
you dont know if there is a expansion in there
manic mural
what do you mean?
wouldn't radar pick it up?
and also, I just walked back from west and southeast, nothing there right now
haven't looked in west, might've expanded
top left I was about 15min ago
burnt atlas
radar just scans it
it does not "magically" keep an eye on things
right this second, you only know what the radar told you "last time it (or you) passed through that tile"
that is the reason for having full "visible" cover with radar (like you have in the middle of your picture)
because then you can physically "see" the expansion forces etc
manic mural
ah
burnt atlas
(yes, it might cost you a radar (or a thousand)
because biters love to munch on them
manic mural
also, how should I expand factory into blue science soon?
like re-do it
or edit the starter thing
burnt atlas
your choice
manic mural
DECISIONS HARD
burnt atlas
might be that the "right" choice is doing a yank setup for just producing the minimum required beakers
etc
manic mural
jank blue science setup time
because all I really want is laser turrets rn
then work on railway
then work on further advancements
burnt atlas
heck, the base you saw me run, is running on a 1 yellow manufacturer doing Purple science
manic mural
lol
burnt atlas
yes, its boosted by a row of beacons that it is placed next to
but nothing in the process is actually dedicated to it
manic mural
hmm
I'm also trying to figure out a good way for steel production
I got ~600 so far from passively creating some leaching off the iron ore line
ofc also adding more ore into the ore line
burnt atlas
just make a small column, remember, a trickle of production running for a LONG time will easily out produce a massive short spike production run
manic mural
I only really need steel rn for mil science for FLAMETHROWER TURRETS >:D
and also for red rounds
piercing rounds
whatever they're called
burnt atlas
piercing ammo is imo your most valuable asset
manic mural
hm?
burnt atlas
they help a LOT
also, remember, the construction bots can repair things if you have repair packs
burnt atlas
ah
manic mural
can't download them until weekend
manic mural
where is factorio mod folder?
burnt atlas
2sec
manic mural
I prob can
since construction bots, squeak through, and even distribution should be smol files
burnt atlas
AppData\Roaming\Factorio\mods
under your Users\username folder
there you go @manic mural
manic mural
@burnt atlas should I put the folders zipped or unzipped here?
and also, would that screw up the mod-list.json file?
burnt atlas
just delete that then
its because the author of that mod is a tool
its a typo in the way he names things
and he has not fixed it since the first time it cropped up
manic mural
lol
burnt atlas
so that one will only be viable for you IF you download it via the game itself
manic mural
got it
burnt atlas
(i had honestly forgotten all about it)
but its a normal problem IF you are using a multiplayer server
because most managers for the game will throw a fit at that mod
manic mural
lol
past smelt
I just want my Quest 2 Lenses. 😩
midnight portal
My quest is on the way, should be here tonight
I heard that if your Facebook account is underage you won't be able to use quest
untold star
Awe okay zack
I just read what you said
Hmmm
Okay I’ll go on there website
And order from there
calm reef
Does that mean i cant play vrchat if im under 18
untold star
I play vrchat but everyone says it’s dumb
true compass
Guys
I'm looking to upgrade from og quest but idk if I should get quest 2 or rift s
Both aren't really appealing but it's better than quest+link right?
halcyon fossil
quest 2 is better in every way (except comfort) than the rift s for $100 cheaper, and compatible with a $50 headstrap accessory to make it more comfortable
dont get a rift s
minor kite
I hate glasses in vr
sadly I must lmao
wish there were 'perscription vr lenses' so I don't have to wear glasses and go in
minor kite
@true compass i can't wear contacts
true compass
Is the link as good as full hdmi or displayport
delicate fossil
@calm reef you can play lmao, i have 5500 hours on vrchat and ive run into people as young as like 11
u gotta be aware tho without the pc connect cable you won't be able to fully experience vrchat on a quest
it's limited asf if u just play on the headset
true compass
Yes I'm aware that vrc runs different on quest alone but I occasionally have very low fps for my rig than when running on desktop mode
Sometimes as low as 11fps on link quest
gilded lion
gonna ask again but
so guys
i get
really terrible minecraft java fps
with optifine installed
like 35ish
i have 1600 AF and RX 570
16 chunk render distance
what do i do this is terrible i cant pvp
calm reef
Ya I heard about that
@minor kite prescription vr lenses do exist, they go right over the lenses
And idk about the mc problem 😦
midnight portal
@delicate fossil I was saying that since when using quest 2 you have to have a Facebook they suspend/ban your account if you're underage
delicate fossil
@midnight portal oh ezpz just make a fb account and put ur age as like 50 or something and use that account for quest
calm reef
stock on link and elite strap are very low
drifting stump
minor kite
My amd bike is arriving in a couple months
I might try selling it on eBay for profit, bc that thing is RARE
They only made a thousand I think
I got #768
manic mural
Pushed west first, @burnt atlas you were correct with em eating all of it up, it looks like the size of their compound doubled lel, spent the last 10 minutes upping my ammo production, making separate steel and iron plate production instead of leaching off starter base.
burnt atlas
aye :)
manic mural
gonna push north next soon
burnt atlas
best of luck! :D
burnt atlas
but i think you might "get" why i prefer this type of map?
manic mural
because I was not familiar with how construction bots and blueprints worked
yea
Also, do you know a way for blueprint to have items inside?
burnt atlas
does not work
manic mural
I did a copy paste of my turrets, and I was waiting for them to auto-place ammo lel
burnt atlas
there is a mod called "autofill" or something like that for it
but imo, that is just cheating
manic mural
and then I forgot how even distribution worked
so I controlled click on one turret
instead of dragging
manic mural
both is likely
burnt atlas
my autosaves is set to 30min, so not much "save" there :)
manic mural
I got 5min autosaves lel
burnt atlas
when the base becomes big enough, 5 min saves get annoying.
manic mural
I see
true compass
Now should I get a quest 2 or a vive cosmos?
manic mural
Cleared out perimeter
manic mural
@burnt atlas any tips for this piece of crap? Tried charging in with ma turret strat, turrets started dying and I got overwhelmed
It's a lot of medium biters and spitters and worms
burnt atlas
wait
that is all you can do
you cannot assault that yet.
you would need a tank for that imo @manic mural
manic mural
Problem: No iron near for when I run out
burnt atlas
you better hurry to that 17m one then :)
manic mural
ugh
gonna push out west then
I don't even have oil yet lol
spending so much time clearing crap out
burnt atlas
now you know why my "ramp" was sooooo slow in my last game :)
burnt atlas
none
manic mural
for clearing out nests
burnt atlas
remember what i said about spitter acid
manic mural
I want something I can slap down semi-close to the nests to defend me as I kill worms
burnt atlas
its a AOE
manic mural
yea that's why I made top left
burnt atlas
IF it hits the wall on any of those, it will also hit a turret
manic mural
ohhh
burnt atlas
aye
manic mural
does gap between turrets matter for now?
manic mural
I was thinking "they target turret, as long as I don't place turrets next to each other, I limit damage"
spitter/worm
burnt atlas
for your stage of the game, i would normally just go pure turret
also, remember, car has longer range on gun
manic mural
yea I'm really bad at driving
burnt atlas
:D
manic mural
how worried should I be about these?
burnt atlas
right now? not at all
bugger all you can do about them
so bad time investment to travel there
manic mural
I mean do I make defense by my oil now?
burnt atlas
think about perhaps going and grabbing a bit of oil from the wells and boot strap something
burnt atlas
bottom imo
burnt atlas
depends on their mood
manic mural
because bottom would really limit damage output at range imo
because I like kinda placing at the edge of range
burnt atlas
i would never place less than 8 turrets
burnt atlas
4 wide, 2 deep
manic mural
I don't want to go bigger because it's annoying I have to like delete it each time I move up
and because I didn't have much ammo before this
burnt atlas
deconstruction BP
manic mural
yea
burnt atlas
basically, learn to use the tools you have :)
burnt atlas
aye, but as i said, i would skip the wall for the turret creep/march faze
manic mural
lmao I'm carrying like 3700 piercing rounds
hm?
I can skip the wall and have them live?
I'm doing that then
burnt atlas
in theory yes
again, use what you think is best for you
just because it works one way for me, does not mean it works for you
manic mural
this is a fun inv :D
burnt atlas
sooo much wasted material in there
burnt atlas
all that material that could have been used in the factory
manic mural
yea
thing is, I have nothing automated xD
it's just starter thing and ammo production
I dunno where to go yet, since no oil
manic mural
HMMMM I was confused on where the bugs are coming from
manic mural
Is evolution factor global?
burnt atlas
ofc
manic mural
damn it
burnt atlas
/ evolution <-
manic mural
I got big stuff everywhere then
burnt atlas
when it hits 0.9 you are effed
manic mural
it reads like "+x from pollution, +x from recent attacks"
burnt atlas
that is behemoth spawn point
burnt atlas
yes, because killing bases and pollution
again, start making choices
the longer you dilly dally, the worse it is going to get
manic mural
gonna reload save and try to get rocketry rq
manic mural
@burnt atlas I might've just taken out a big worm without any rockets
I killed them all without any rockets
4/10 would not try again
burnt atlas
thats a cute tiny outpost you found there :)
manic mural
:(
statrted a bootstrapped oil production
producing plastic and sulfur on site
and started a bootstrapped blue science production
automated red chips, automated engines, but manually placed into chest for production.
calm reef
It hard to convince parent to let me get quest 2 
manic mural
@burnt atlas have you messed around with the Absolute reference point thing?
very interesting
in the blueprints
seems like a vanilla thing
burnt atlas
it is a vanilla feature
but i have not had a reason as such to play too much with it
manic mural
doing this doesn't feel right.... What do I need to change..?
jolly prism
i get this alot. but i have dx12. shouldn't anything under it work?
manic mural
Side note, I've decided that I'll allow myself to use waterfill offensively for now, as long as I don't completely block it off, since I know I'm gonna be screwed soon if I don't start building up west iron deposit, and I'm not going to be able to fortify that entire border.
I'm thinking off waterfilling blue stuff
burnt atlas
@jolly prism no. that depends on the particular game
@manic mural what happened to "its okay to fail" ?
jolly prism
Ahh. Ok. If i get dx11 wuld that mess up what i already have?
jolly prism
Ok thanks.
burnt atlas
you are very welcome
manic mural
@burnt atlas I'm taking a different approach to it, I have a save from 3 hours of gameplay before this, I'm planning on doing this with handicaps, then doing it normally.
But eh, this should still be fun.
manic mural
okay yea
I think I went overboard with the size of the canal, but this is what I want, me to place walls red, and still have to defend yellow areas because spitters.
burnt atlas
you should be able to do this easily enough with walls already, but have at it :)
manic mural
I mean
burnt atlas
do note: they wont attack across the water UNLESS there is something that "annoys" them
burnt atlas
nah, that just triggers them
burnt atlas
shrugs
burnt atlas
remember: IF you stop your production, your pollution will go down
meaning, that it will disperse over time
manic mural
I mean, you can tell half of it is gone already
burnt atlas
aye
manic mural
I just don't like the evolution factor ticking up
burnt atlas
nothing you can do about that
it goes up with time too
worry about getting your tech up
burnt atlas
:)
manic mural
Question tho, keep energy production via steam at A or move to B
burnt atlas
do you want a visit from the friendly neighbourhood "we dont bite (much)" fellows up north?
if yes? move it to B
burnt atlas
why do you need mass storage?
just let the base run down
as in, let it run dry of ores etc
burnt atlas
(copper wire being the thing you could use, but it takes up more space, so bad trade for you)
chests
or just leave it
manic mural
burning off red green science rn
manic mural
current?
manic mural
kk
burnt atlas
and that is the quickest way to answer that
manic mural
Do tell me if anything is horribly wrong tho
burnt atlas
aye, that is the point :)
manic mural
heh
oh yea
ignore my rail "system"
I kinda did a section, but didn't know where I needed the oil or anything like that
burnt atlas
you have SO much material in your cars
and you wont burn science if you dont feed it iron
manic mural
I mean
everything in there other than the coal is either unusable for me rn or I slapped it in during deconstruction of the iron/steel section
burnt atlas
remember when i said: a small trickle of production is usefull?
you currently have 150 cycles of green science in a box, just waiting
burnt atlas
yellow inserters
burnt atlas
:)
manic mural
I'm gonna run out of things that take red+green lel
burnt atlas
what have you used blue science for ?
manic mural
electric furnaces