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surreal apex
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That I can't say. but I imagine they'll be affordable, while making current ryzen prices fall.

keen grail
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Yea because I'm trying to upgrade my i3 8100

surreal apex
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what's wrong with it?

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its about the same as a ryzen 3 2200g

lyric marsh
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It wouldn't be powerful for gaming. But since you have an Intel motherboard you should just get an 8th gen i7 so you'd have something powerful for gaming

noble turtle
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i3's and i5's are usually fine for gaming if you can get a high clock, as most games don't utilize the extra cores of an i7

lyric marsh
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If you look at specs. The i3 and i5 have less bandwidth than the i7

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Is most cases

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single core performance is 27% better

surreal apex
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you know nothing, the1reaper.

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snow.

lyric marsh
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Lol

lapis sapphire
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looking for some help on RAM... im looking at getting this board and need to know what RAM will work on the board and do i need to get 2 sticks or just 1... MSI Z370-A PRO INTEL 8TH GEN ATX DDR4 64GB 2PCIEX16 CFX M.2 DSUB DVI DP USB3.1

swift bough
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2 sticks

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as long as your motherboard supports ddr4 ram, you can put any kind of ddr4 ram now matter the speed or how many gigs of ram

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just get any ram that is ddr4, get 2 sticks and you'll be fine

frail saffron
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need help is the 2070 worth upgrading from a 1060 6gb oc?

near steppe
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its a hugeeeee performance jump imo

lyric marsh
verbal coral
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hello

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I'm very new to this process of building my own pc. I'm looking for something simple. This pc will be for just browsing the web and typing word docs.

dusk apex
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Go fourth my <@&525119001324683264> s... Ride like the wind for jasonlee

floral thistle
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You looking to have it built for you or just looking for a solid build list?

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I can help with either

near steppe
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Basic workstation pc

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No gaming?

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Rule 1: rgb

floral thistle
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lol

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Do you have a set budget for us to get a parts list for?

lyric marsh
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@verbal coral We need total cost your looking to spend and what type of PC you want. Prebuilt could also be a laptop, but custom is set to desktop only.

dusk cape
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build an insane pc that can run servers, just for small software stuff

swift bough
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lol

near steppe
lament moat
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Well be realistic are you going to be actual getting that build in irl if not then it's pointless for them to build a build for somebody that isnt going to actual use it @dusk cape

dusk cape
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what?

lament moat
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Dont ask for a build you will not use it's pointless

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If you are then proceed

lyric marsh
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I built my PC

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To play Minecraft

dusk cape
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the comment was a joke suggestion to jasonlee

lament moat
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Bruv minecraft is og

dusk cape
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why would i build a computer to run servers and only use it for like browsing the web?

lament moat
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I still play that what server is fav Reaper?

lyric marsh
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My server is my favorite

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Mine

lament moat
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Cool what games ya got?

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For the server

lyric marsh
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It's just a standard server

lament moat
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Yo reaper 1 actual question

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Would the be quiet dark rock 4 be able to fit on an fx 8350 (GPU duh)?

lyric marsh
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Ok

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Fx 8350 is a cpu

lament moat
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fat fingers dude sorry I click g instead

lyric marsh
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Oh

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Well it's not about fitting on the cpu

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It's about fitting the socket and case

lament moat
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It should I got a mid nzxt case so that shouldn't be an issue

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Socket not quite sure what you mean?

lyric marsh
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Am3 or Am3+

lament moat
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Am3+

lyric marsh
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Says it fits

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On am3+ and am3

lament moat
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Well cool now I just have to measure to see if it fits in with everything else, but I dont think it is really a problem

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Thanks btw for answering my question

lyric marsh
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Np

sage token
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@lyric marsh no its ourcraft servers

lyric marsh
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?

lament moat
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I was wondering if somebody can help make me a spec list for a computer that can run destiny 2 and is the cheapest that you can make for a mid tier and can you possible dm me that list please, I was wanting to upgrade from the pc that I got which is I think a mid tier gaming pc that can run most games ok like low to midish for graphics

dreamy silo
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What price range @lament moat

molten wind
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@lament moat $600 plus your choice of case will build you a decent rig that will run almost anything at 2k 100fps and is completely upgradable as your budget increases through time. You will also have to spring for any type of keyboard, mouse, headset, mic, and monitor that you want if you don't already have something
Asus prime B450M; MB
Ryzen 2600; CPU, EVGA B# 550w; PSU
16GB Corsair LPX 3000Mhz; RAM
PowerCooler RX580; GPU
Adata 480gb SSD

lament moat
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so for and amd gpu whats the best for say between $100 - $200

vocal holly
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rx 580 is pretty good value

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stretch to a 590 but i dunno if its worth it

versed ice
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don't think i'd be using a RX 590 for a new build. nothing against AMD, it's what i'm using on my current system, but for building a new machine i don't think i'd go lower in performance than a GTX 1660ti. unless you plan on building another computer in the next year or so.

uncut void
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I agree with @versed ice. The AMD cards are great for budget builds, but current cards are just not up to performance levels. The new Navi cards later this year should be something to get though if you are not building right now. Navi is supposed to be released in Q3 2019

vivid heath
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yo just a question does anyone have an old d2 account for pc that they are willing to sell me. my account got banned for using a macro and i dont want to start from ground zero : (

versed ice
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probably have better luck not mentioning the banned part.

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too much information

patent terrace
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I have an nvidia geforce 1030 and not a lot of moonay so what card should i get to upgrade from that?

noble turtle
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what would your budget be? @Soggy Chicken#5975

surreal apex
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they left lol.

versed ice
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@Soggy Chicken#5975 GTX 1660ti should be a nice bump up for a middle of the road budget

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@Soggy Chicken#5975 should be close to twice the performance you are getting from the 1030 in games.

swift bough
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he left.

hard hound
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I am new to the pc building scene and am looking for a 1080p 75fps gaming pc with a monitor for about $650-700

swift bough
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75?

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you can get like at least 100

surreal apex
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@hard hound what you looking to play game wise

hard hound
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Mostly apex and some indie games

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@surreal apex

halcyon forge
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And you want the monitor to be included in the price?

hard hound
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Yes @halcyon forge

halcyon forge
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It’ll be hard to find a pc that can output 75fps on most games and find a 75hz monitor for $650

swift bough
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ye

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the pc itself should be atleast 650 and extra money should go towards a monitor

hard hound
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I was thinking Ryzen 3 2200g with rx 570

analog burrow
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you could always get a 60 Hz monitor and overclock it

hard hound
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Acer bi for 89

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Don’t know actual model number but what size monitor should I get

analog burrow
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27" is the sweet spot

hard hound
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Ok

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Is there one for about 100 that would be good

analog burrow
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I dont like buying electronics second hand but try ebay. or Newegg if they have something refurbished

shy brook
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What are good free games on pc

swift bough
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oh shit

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thanks for indirectly reminding me

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i gotta install cs

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cs, apex is meh, maybe a bit of osu, theres not that many good free games out there

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what category you lookin for?

glossy talon
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i like apex

full wing
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tf2 is decent last I played

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can't call fortnite a good game

glossy talon
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i totally forgot about tf2

swift bough
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ew

glossy talon
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now im getting nostalgic

swift bough
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dont mention virginite tf

surreal apex
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next person to mention it gets the hammer.

swift bough
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exactly

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lol

full wing
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CS sucks now

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Unless you play ESEA don’t bother playing competitive

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Closet and blatant cheaters everywhere

shy brook
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so tf2 is a good game

swift bough
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eh

fallow ridge
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yes

vale current
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@shy brook Paladins, War Thunder, Team Fortress 2, CSGO, Realm Royale, Splitgate, The Darwin Project, Dungeon Fighter Online, Warframe

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That's all the good f2p games that I can think of

swift bough
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he said good free games

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not most of them

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darwin is dead, realm royale also prob dead

dim stream
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if you like lying to people or need to learn how to lie deceit is a good free game

swift bough
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ye

deft palm
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Hello! Does anyone have any tips for doing maintenance on my pc? I've had my build for a few years now, maybe 3 but my fans have gotten louder. I'm not sure which ones but I also don't know if there's any way I could fix that

surreal apex
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yeah have you ever dusted it?

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get a can of air and hold the fin so it doesn't spin when you clean it

deft palm
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I haven't in a while, thanks!

surreal apex
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dust is a notorious pc killer.

lethal flume
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yay

outer pumice
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Anyone excited for the new Borderlands 2 DLC?

viral reef
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im just waiting on july 7th so i can get ahold of a x570 rog strix -e

modest pine
near steppe
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That case will choke airflow, also the CPU cooler might hit or make it hard to place the memory sticks, check what other people say about it.

sleek garnet
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G

pure flume
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Hey can someone help me , new to pc gaming just want to know why when i stream and play at the same time my game gets FPS drop?

sage token
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Both use your PCs resources and so therefore your pc is spreading out its resources to multitask do more things at once that are somewhat intensive

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Hell I don't even stream and I know that

pure flume
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@sage token ahh ok, ive noticed it uses a lot of memory when i play and stream so i just wanna know would i need more ram for it to get better

sage token
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Well see you figured it out

pure flume
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Ok thanks, just didn’t want to go waste money if it wasn’t something i needed @sage token

shy brook
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What is the best way to clean your gaming mouse?

raven steppe
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What mouse @shy brook

shy brook
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Rival 600

near steppe
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i use rubbing alcohol

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and a cotton pad or microfiber cloth

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@pure flume if your single PC streaming it's trying to process all the frames for the game AND capture and encode video for the stream so it's going to cause fps drops. if you have a 10 series or better nvidia GPU the new NVENC encoder is really really good so you might want to try that. just google "new nvenc" + whatever streaming program you're using which i assume is OBS or SLOBS.

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NVENC basically offloads more of the encoding/capture to the gpu and helps with more stable frames.

pure flume
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I don’t think i have it on NVENC I’m gonna try that thanks @near steppe

near steppe
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it changed my streaming life @pure flume , theres nvenc and then theres nvenc (new) so make sure to spot the difference in obs/slobs.

pure flume
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Which one should i go with the regular one or the new? @near steppe

near steppe
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new

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its been upgraded so much, this is if you have a 10 series or better nvidia GPU @pure flume

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it works even better on 20 series gpus

pure flume
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Yeah i have a 1080 @near steppe

near steppe
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i have the 1080ti and the stability increased a good amount with the new nvenc

full wing
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😬

full wing
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I don't even have a pc I need one but no resorces to..

tawdry ginkgo
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I have been streaming and playing Starcraft from a $400. It’s time to upgrade.

full wing
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What does 400 get you honestly

surreal apex
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that kinda depends on who you ask.. rofl

warm belfry
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If you buy used, you can get gpus for cheap

surreal apex
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just a gamble.

noble turtle
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not really, the large majority of purchases are good. it's the few that are bad who speak up and give it a bad name

warm belfry
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^

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And you can always ask what it was used for, such as mining or light gaming

opaque spruce
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That’s correct

dawn valley
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.

willow spear
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So I don’t have a “pc” but sadly I have a Mac. I need to get rid of it because it’s a 2010 gen and it doesn’t run anything.

swift bough
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ok

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try to sell if for 100

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lol

willow spear
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Ye I was thinking around there lol

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I still gotta get a job and make some money so I can build a pc

near steppe
gritty patrol
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graffiti it with lit stickers, it will be l33t

brazen raft
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Anyone wanna 1v1

midnight bridge
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I need some heko

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help

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pc help

halcyon fossil
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what do u need?

midnight bridge
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Basically I have a gtx 1060 6gb and an i5-9600k. What do I upgrade? I was thinking the processor first to like an i7-8700k or something

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any suggestions?

halcyon fossil
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lemme go look something up real quick

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ok

midnight bridge
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also I have a feeling that the inconsistencies of the i5-9900k is causing small micro-stutters in games like csgo...

halcyon fossil
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i would say upgrading the graphics card would be more worth it

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the difference between the i5 9th gen and the i7 8th gen is double the threads, but not much other than that

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an upgrade to an rtx 2060 or a gtx 1070 would be good

visual blade
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upgrade your gpu

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You are bottlenecking your performance

midnight bridge
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well

visual blade
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get an rtx 2060 like zack said

midnight bridge
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wouldn'

halcyon fossil
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i dont know if the i5 would bottleneck the performance of a new gpu you'd have to ask someone else

midnight bridge
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one second

rose lodge
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aye! why does some games look blurry when on max settings?

midnight bridge
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one sedc

visual blade
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disable motion blur

dense kestrel
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isnt 2060 capped at 60 fps?

visual blade
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no lmao

dense kestrel
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or am i thinking of something else

visual blade
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why would it ?

midnight bridge
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wait guys say for example I got a gtx 1070 or a 2060, wouldn't the i5-9900k bottleneck the graphics card?

visual blade
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nope

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Its a good cpu

midnight bridge
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also

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one more things

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*thing

visual blade
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But you shouldnt get over an rtx 2070

midnight bridge
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yeah

visual blade
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rtx 2080 is overkill for an i5 9600k

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you would bottleneck

midnight bridge
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also it would bottleneck

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yeah

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one more thingggg

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one sec

halcyon fossil
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ok

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what is it

midnight bridge
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let me think about how to phrase it

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lmao

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so when I play csgo sometimes I get these really annoying micro-stutters, they're not annoying but when I'm in a competitive match they could really make the difference between winning and losing

visual blade
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oh

midnight bridge
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they're like really well timed

visual blade
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Screen tearing possibly

midnight bridge
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hm

halcyon fossil
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could that be your wifi connection?

midnight bridge
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no

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my ping is great

halcyon fossil
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or does it seem more client side

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ok

visual blade
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You put too much frames on your monitor

midnight bridge
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input lag?

visual blade
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no

halcyon fossil
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i agree its probably screen tearing

rose lodge
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Blurry far away but not up close

visual blade
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too many frmaes

rose lodge
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like apex

visual blade
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but your monitor can handle it

midnight bridge
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no yeah I mean

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could input lag be it

rose lodge
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or is that just how it is

midnight bridge
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I have a 144 hz monitor

visual blade
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If you have good internet no

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Try not to play over 144 fps

midnight bridge
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ok

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should I cap it?

visual blade
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It can cause screen tearing

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yep

midnight bridge
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cause I have been advised against doing like v-sync

halcyon fossil
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go to video settings and set the frame cap to 144

visual blade
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DONT USE VSYNC

midnight bridge
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isnt that the same thing

visual blade
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IT KILLS YOUR FRAMES

rose lodge
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trash

visual blade
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NOPE

halcyon fossil
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smh vsync cuts my frames in half

visual blade
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vsync is trash lol

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never use it

midnight bridge
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because v-sync just caps your frames to your monitor's refresh rate

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no I agree

visual blade
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g sync yes

midnight bridge
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I dont use it

visual blade
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vsync no

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ok

rose lodge
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it keeps it at a consistent frame rate

halcyon fossil
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@midnight bridge if you really want to, get a g-sync enabled monitor

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or freesymc

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freesync*

midnight bridge
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what does freesync doi

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*do

visual blade
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but it costs like 600 for ag sync monitor

halcyon fossil
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its the amd version of g-sync

visual blade
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yep

midnight bridge
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lol cheap version of g sync

visual blade
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lmao

rose lodge
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but why does apex look so blurry in the distance

halcyon fossil
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@midnight bridge amd is good

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theyre inexpensive but its a good brand

midnight bridge
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I know I'm joking

halcyon fossil
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just take a look at their third gen of processors

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oh ok

visual blade
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@rose lodge try making your view distance higher

midnight bridge
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they have nasty new processors

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and by nasty I mean goods

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*good

halcyon fossil
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bruh

visual blade
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Lmao

midnight bridge
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bruh

halcyon fossil
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their new threadripper has 32 cores and 64 threads

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you could like

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simulate the entire world on that thing

visual blade
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Exactly

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For like 700 bucks

midnight bridge
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like with massive simulations

halcyon fossil
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it could be helpful if youre doing large scale premiere movie production

visual blade
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yep

midnight bridge
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so not worth it as a gamer

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honestly

visual blade
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No

halcyon fossil
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but those people have enough money to by 10000 threadrippers

visual blade
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An i7 9900k is honestly the best cpu

midnight bridge
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wait should I get the 2060, 1070, or 1660?

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theoretically

visual blade
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2060 or 1660

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if you have a budget

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if not go for the 2070

midnight bridge
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yeah

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I'm afraid of bottlenecking though

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with the 2017

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*2070

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LMAO

halcyon fossil
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oof

visual blade
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ok

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gimme yor current specs excluding the cpu

midnight bridge
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k oine second

visual blade
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gpu*

dark void
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Remember when the i9 cost almost 1k

visual blade
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never will buy it

hearty schooner
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Yes

dark void
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Lol if I am able to save enough money I will build my dream

hearty schooner
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The i9 was like $950 something right

visual blade
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idk

dark void
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Yeah

dense kestrel
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how much is your "dream"

halcyon fossil
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dang

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it went down in price a lot recently

hearty schooner
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I’ll do my dream build PC and put it into PCPartPicker gang

visual blade
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yeet

halcyon fossil
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i mean not that it really matters because 3rd gen ryzen has 8 core 16 thread processors at those speeds

visual blade
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plus free shipping

halcyon fossil
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and for cheaper

dense kestrel
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everyones dream pc has 2080tis in it

dark void
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Lol

visual blade
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AMD is better

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in prices

dark void
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The difference is I have more than enough currently to pay for my dream pc just can’t do it since I’m saving it all for college

halcyon fossil
visual blade
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my dream pc is
I7-9700k
RTX 2080ti SLI
32 gb of ram
4tb of storage
256 ssd

dark void
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My dream pc has the 9900k

hearty schooner
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5GHz Turbo?!

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WHAT

visual blade
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yep

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but it will overheat

halcyon fossil
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you didnt know that?

dark void
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It’s hard lined too

halcyon fossil
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you gotta get some good water cooling

dark void
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With the best thermal paste ever

hearty schooner
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何!?(・_・;?

visual blade
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so you need watercooling or a POWERFUL air cooler

dark void
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I can’t affordd the pc tho

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Aka a wind tunnel guys

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XD

visual blade
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lol

dark void
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Just put this right here

halcyon fossil
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do you guys think an AIO would be good enough to cool the i9 9900k

dark void
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LOL

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cute

visual blade
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no

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dont think so

midnight bridge
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gtx 1060 6gb
16gb 2666 DDR4 memory
asus Z390-P
@visual blade

halcyon fossil
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with a 360 rad

visual blade
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and cpu ?

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i ment to exclude the gpu

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sorry

midnight bridge
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it's fine

halcyon fossil
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he has the i5 9600k i think

midnight bridge
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15-9900k

visual blade
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oh yeah

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ok brb

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what games you tryna play ?

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@midnight bridge

dense kestrel
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what do you think the most powerful gpu i can use w/out bottleneck is with a r3 2200?

halcyon fossil
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oohhh

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uhh

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nothing?? 😂

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jk

visual blade
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@midnight bridge if you have 16gb of ram you good

midnight bridge
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oh shit

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sorry didnt see

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um

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I play like fortnite and csgo

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mostly

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right now

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but I play a bunch of other irrelevant shit as well

hearty schooner
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@halcyon fossil what water cooling would be the best?

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120mm
240mm
280mm
360mm

halcyon fossil
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360

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thats just the overall best

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but it might be overkill for what youre doing

full wing
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..what the

halcyon fossil
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what components are you gonna water cool

full wing
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why did i join this group?

visual blade
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idk

full wing
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i have never joined this group

halcyon fossil
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idk

visual blade
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you can leave

hearty schooner
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I’m putting my dream pc in PCPartPicker

full wing
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and when i went on discord im on it

visual blade
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do it

full wing
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i will leave

halcyon fossil
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bye

hearty schooner
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Goodbye

visual blade
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BYE

dense kestrel
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bye

full wing
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i just found it weird of why im on it

visual blade
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Ok

dark void
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@full wing giveaway

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For Newegg

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Possibly

full wing
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hm

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well ok then bye

hearty schooner
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Which is better @dark void

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i9-9900K or the i9-9980XE

dark void
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Oof

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Well 9900k I would say for gaming only

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And the 9980XE probably if you are doing video editing etc on top of gaming

solid roost
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Anyone know the best place to get a good quality gaming laptop for cheapest price?

dusk apex
lethal gulch
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😮

hearty schooner
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@dusk apex shameless plug

warm idol
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This PC giveaway makes me mad. You put in 2 2080tis in there and they have to run at 4x because they decided to put a 9900 in it.

dusk apex
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But would you be mad if you won @warm idol ?

warm idol
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... Slightly less mad

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It just seemed silly and I had no where to vent until I entered and joined this discord hahaha

dusk apex
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Haha, welcome my dude.

winter heart
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Hehehehe, good to know you guys are out here

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didnt know

rare mist
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I wish would be lucky enough to win. Then I can play escape from tarkov and get more then 35 fps

warm belfry
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:l my computer can’t run games at more than 30 FPS

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On medium

haughty sonnet
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oof

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i'd be curious what cinebench score you would get

full wing
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Anyone here play League of Legends?

latent mica
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Not I. Never could get into Mobas 😦

swift bough
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not anymore

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mobas arent my type

shrewd wigeon
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Same

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Just don’t enjoy them

swift bough
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exactly

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i like shooter games

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tacticals, first person, third, co op crap and stuff

full wing
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Arma 3?

swift bough
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though wwz needs more of a storyline for me to play it

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oh, im pretty ok at em

shrewd wigeon
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I’ve got garbage reaction times tbh

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No idea how I’ve played for honor as long as I have I’m terrible at it

full wing
#

Arma 3 has that good military realism

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1 shot=dead

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Unless theres a medic

shrewd wigeon
#

I’ve thought about buying arma 3 for a while but honestly I feel like my pc would have problems running it smoothly

full wing
#

Yeah my pc broke gonna take me months to buy a new one to play my games again

swift bough
#

oof

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what broke

full wing
#

Everything bud..

#

I took it for repairs and they said it wont be able to run due to exposure

shrewd wigeon
#

Ouch

full wing
#

Hence the reason I am hellbent on looking for pc giveaways

swift bough
#

jesus

#

how much you got

#

and what your budget

full wing
#

The pc I had took me 4-5 months and was 1,000 dollars

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I lowered my budget to 630

swift bough
#

so your gonna get a new pc

#

for 630?

full wing
#

If I can find one that's capable of running such games

shrewd wigeon
#

That’s pretty reasonable actually

#

You can build one for about that that’s better than mine

swift bough
#

yeah

#

you can get an rx 580

shrewd wigeon
#

Although I’m only running a 750 to

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To

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Ti

swift bough
#

prob a ryzen 5

shrewd wigeon
#

A friend of mine had a similar budget a while back and built one with a 960 and an i5 I believe

full wing
#

I was thinking of getting one of those

swift bough
#

nah

#

ryzen is the new intel now

full wing
#

Damn

swift bough
#

and dont you dare buy a fuckin prebuilt

#

gonna be ripped off

full wing
#

Ryzen is the best

swift bough
#

ok not the absolute best

#

but they gaining a lot of ground on intel

full wing
#

True

#

That pc uses a ryzen but yeah pre-built sucks

swift bough
#

@full wing you better build your own pc with your money

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DONT

#

and i repeat

#

do not buy a prebuilt espESCIALLY with your budget

#

you gonna get ripped off

full wing
#

I heard they overcharged you with pre builds

swift bough
#

not heard.

#

faCT

full wing
#

Alienware did

swift bough
#

thats facts that every pc nerd knows about

full wing
#

Yup

swift bough
#

comm0n knowledge of us pc teens

#

you could get a ryzen 5 1600 and an rx 580 if you choose your parts correctly

full wing
#

Dm the things I would need to buy or you would reccomend for building a pc

#

Because this would be my first time in years

near steppe
#

@swift bough , language xD

swift bough
#

g0t it

#

forgot where i said it

#

if it isnt important, ill forget

near steppe
#

It's okay

swift bough
#

lol

full wing
#

👌

unique sun
#

Any Apex Legends lovers?

grand canyon
#

I loved Apex Legends once, then they released the first battle pass 😢

near steppe
#

i like apex legends

unique sun
#

@near steppe lets pair up

near steppe
#

i just woke up sataniaWeary

unique sun
#

DM Ur user id if interested

near steppe
#

im theo_says on origin. @unique sun

haughty carbon
haughty cloud
#

its a good private list

haughty carbon
#

o wait is it private?

haughty cloud
#

yes

haughty carbon
#

heck

#

this but basically i added the cm master liquid 120

haughty cloud
#

if you're spending that much, you might as well use an m.2

haughty carbon
#

m.2?

haughty cloud
#

yes. an NVME drive as your boot device

haughty carbon
#

ahh

near steppe
#

if your mobo supports it

haughty cloud
#

it does, its an asus prime

near steppe
#

YOU'RE SO SMART BEARDY

haughty carbon
#

thnx

haughty cloud
#

and handsome

near steppe
#

wow

haughty cloud
#

also, maybe wait for the new amd gpus. Vega 56 is okay, but, you could do better for that money

dusty gyro
#

how low do you guys think the price of the 2600x, 2700, and 2700x will go after 3rd gen ryzen comes out?

haughty cloud
#

probably not as low as you're hoping.

near steppe
#

prob like $20 less

#

LOL

haughty cloud
#

yeah, 10% drop, max

dusty gyro
#

well, that's kinda what i was hoping for actually lol

haughty cloud
#

and that probably won't be until labor day

near steppe
#

there wasnt much of a drop from previous ryzens either.

oak jasper
#

Yeah they ususally dont drop much. But they also arent that much to begin with either.

#

well worth the investment

nocturne sorrel
#

why is that vega 56 630$?

#

@haughty carbon vega 56 at 630$ is outragous

haughty carbon
#

idk

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i have no idea

#

it was 435

nocturne sorrel
#

still outrageous

haughty carbon
#

then it went back up to 630

nocturne sorrel
#

its perf is = to 2060

#

which is a 350$ card

haughty carbon
#

so should i switch out the vega 56 for a nvidia card instead?

nocturne sorrel
#

yes

dusty gyro
#

a 2070 is cheaper than that

haughty carbon
#

k

oak jasper
#

I see vega 56 for $269.99 where you looking ?

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and you get 2 free games

haughty carbon
#

at my pc pricelis

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list*

#

where are u seeing a vega56 for 269

dusty gyro
#

they are there

#

i just checked

oak jasper
#

newegg ofc

haughty carbon
#

i c now

nocturne sorrel
#

dem reviews

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feels good

#

wonder why its so low

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👽

oak jasper
#

prob because there are much better ones out now

nocturne sorrel
#

nah most of the vega line

#

suffer from tempature

#

even dual fan

hearty schooner
#

can I trade anyone an virtual apple for a stick of ram please

#

🍎 -> RAM

oak jasper
#

I have a 2060 gigabyte and i can tell you its hot lol

hearty schooner
#

nutrition is important xd

nocturne sorrel
#

did u get single fan?

oak jasper
#

dual

nocturne sorrel
#

cuzz I got 2080 dual fan my temps are under 80 under full load

oak jasper
#

I have a small case which is prob part of the airflow problem and also why i needed smalled card.

noble turtle
#

bet. my single fan 1050 almost never goes above 65

nocturne sorrel
#

iv underclocked 2 vega gpus so far

oak jasper
#

I have fractal S Mini

noble turtle
#

actually it barely even hits 60

nocturne sorrel
#

a vega 56 that kept overheating till it bsod

#

and a vega 64 reducing fps by almost half bc of overheating

#

when I read the comments there all the same thing

oak jasper
#

yeah the ryzen chips throttle pretty hard when hot too

nocturne sorrel
#

to hot and undervolting

#

shouldn't have to undervolt a new card

oak jasper
#

nope

nocturne sorrel
#

the vega 64 was triple fan aswell

#

prob only reason why it didnt overheat till it bsod

amber coral
#

ryzen doesnt run that hot though

nocturne sorrel
#

ryzen doesn't

#

it runs perfectly fine on stock cooling

alpine phoenix
#

anyone played inside?

hardy mason
#

New here. Anyone know how to open razer blade pro 4k?

#

My old blade 4k is heating up. Need repasting

tardy shoal
#

whats a better motherboard than the z329 that can support I9?

wide jay
#

anyone have any ram download links? lol

hearty schooner
#

here ya go

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xd xd

vivid pendant
#

hello?

warm belfry
#

no

haughty sonnet
#

Four letters

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PCMR

#

Lol

halcyon fractal
#

So ive had an xbox for years now, but since all these games are getting crossplay i am thinking about purchasing a pc for less lag, better frames, etc. I am not wanting to build one as i dont really have the time right now to do it. I am looking for one that is less than 1k usd does anyone have any suggestions. I was going to get one of the new gen cyberpower gamer xtremes, but i wanted to check with some people that might know a good deal more than me for their opinions.

warm belfry
#

Which one?

halcyon fractal
#

Hold on i took a screenshot

warm belfry
#

Do you know how to build a pc? I could get a part list for a unbuilt one

near steppe
#

CPU is on the weak side, the 1060 is last gen and will only do 1080p at low frame rate most of t he time.

warm belfry
#

It’s 1660 theo

halcyon fractal
#

I dont know lol.

warm belfry
#

:l

near steppe
#

oh 1660

warm belfry
#

Yeah

near steppe
#

then my only complaint is the cpu

halcyon fractal
#

So im a bot when it comes to computers atm so what will the the downside of the cpu? And do you think this is worth the amount of money i would spend on it?

warm belfry
#

Ok I’m bad with building pc’s for 800

near steppe
#

CPU is low powered, if you ended up playing any games that required a lot of objects flying around or falling (a lot of physics calculation stuff) the cpu will struggle.

#

and your frames will struggle.

halcyon fractal
#

Ark survival on low graphics

#

How will that do

near steppe
#

ark is very VERY cpu intensive

#

especially when rendering all the stuff people build

fallow fog
#

ARK lags everything lol, even consoles can’t load stuff well on their settings

warm belfry
#

Here @near steppe thoughts?

near steppe
#

if you wanted to play things comfortably, i5-9600 would be my recommendation from intel or a r5 2600 from amd.

#

that build is fine

#

dont forget the fans

warm belfry
#

@halcyon fractal check out the build above

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I forgot

#

:l

near steppe
#

you'll need air pressure not air flow fans for the front of that specific case since the filters block so much air flow.

warm belfry
#

Yeah I just whipped something up for 800 really quick

halcyon fractal
#

Sorry for the late replys im at work atm but i dont know how to build a pc nor fo i have any tools to do so

warm belfry
#

Ahh

near steppe
#

two intake, 1 exhaust, minimum for my preference anyways.

warm belfry
#

I’ll throw 2 fans in it

near steppe
#

i have two high rpm intakes and three low rpm exhaust in my current one

warm belfry
#

o

near steppe
#

@halcyon fractal whats your budget ill help you find a prebuilt

halcyon fractal
#

I can go to around 1000 usd

near steppe
#

does this have to include a monitor

halcyon fractal
#

No

#

I dont want to spend more than 1200 though

#

From earlier believe me i know how laggy ark is i played it on the original xbox one for about 2 and a half years. Now i have an x and it still has a hard time keeping up thats why im wanting to get a pc so i can control the settings a little more

#

And i really appreciate all the help guys it means alot

warm belfry
#

Hmmm

noble turtle
#

I would strongly recommend building your own pc, because unless you get some crazy sale on a prebuilt you won't get as much out of your money. And it's not very hard just watch a couple tutorials.

near steppe
tardy shoal
#

If you build your own PC it will be an investment that will far outlive a prebuilt. You dont have to buy it all at once either, it can be several small purchases of parts.

near steppe
#

you'll get best bang for buck if you built your own but that link is my recommendation

#

ryzen 2600 and a rtx 2060

#

will run ark just fine @halcyon fractal

tardy shoal
#

plus not to mention what you buy with a prebuilt I can build you something just as good if not better for that price

halcyon fossil
#

@halcyon fractal the next generation of that processor in the prebuild that @near steppe recommended is gonna be outdated by one generation next month, but its still a good processor

near steppe
#

yeah

#

if you can wait late july

#

you'll prob get a better deal

halcyon fractal
#

Any ideas of what tools i would need to build one?

#

Ill look into it, but i dont want to commit to building one and screw it up or something

near steppe
#

a screw driver...

noble turtle
#

pretty much nothing

tardy shoal
#

oh ark, Ryzen would actually be better over intel for Ark. Go Ryzen 2000 series

noble turtle
#

maybe small screwdriver

halcyon fractal
#

So there is nothing too complicated?

noble turtle
#

no

near steppe
#

if you have a friend that knows how to build then it should be good

tardy shoal
#

naw just got to know hot fit things

noble turtle
#

it's mostly push things into different slots

halcyon fractal
#

Nothing like sautering or anything?

tardy shoal
#

there are youtube tutorials too

near steppe
#

only thing is to NOT TOUCH THE CPU PINS

hallow aurora
#

meh i still run ryzen 1700x and a 1080 ti and no games that have come out or will come out seem to max out my pc so im still good 😄

halcyon fossil
#

@halcyon fractal really just make sure all the components you buy are compatible with eachother because if theyre not its gonna be a problem

tardy shoal
#

I run a montrosity, nothing will ever come out in the next decade that will max out my PC

near steppe
#

4 years later

halcyon fractal
#

Doesnt that website pcpartpicker check if their compatible?

halcyon fossil
#

Newegg has a great filter to sort out parts that are compatible with each other when you search for parts

near steppe
#

cpus and gpu performance increases exponentially

halcyon fossil
#

it does, but sometimes it leaves out search results

near steppe
tardy shoal
#

I run a I9 processor, Nvidia 2080 TI, Z239 Godlike motherboard

halcyon fossil
#

you might be able to find a cheaper and better part if you check if its compatible with your components yourself

tardy shoal
#

With 64gb of ram

halcyon fossil
#

at least thats what ive experienced

near steppe
#

it will check if its compatible but its not perfect, for instance if certain things wont fit in certain cases.

halcyon fractal
#

Now if i build one the other thing is the operating system. How do you go about that?

near steppe
#

you can buy windows 64bit pro online

tardy shoal
#

Youtube

near steppe
#

kingquin or newegg

hallow aurora
#

also check slick deals newegg and other pc stores sale items low every once in a while

tardy shoal
#

They will sell you a windows key

#

its like 120 on their website for it

near steppe
#

ahh.. don't use youtube to buy a key

#

LOL

tardy shoal
#

No Im saying tutorial

noble turtle
#

windows iso file if you want it free

halcyon fossil
#

in my experience, we bought a flash drive, and when we finished building the computer we checked that it turned on, then we turned it off, plugged in the flash drive, turned it on, and just entered the activation key

tardy shoal
#

do not do the ISO file xD Ive heard of so many horror stories of people getting robbed from that

halcyon fossil
#

everything else happens automatically

noble turtle
#

wym sky

near steppe
tardy shoal
#

What zack said

noble turtle
#

the iso file comes from microsoft...

full wing
#

I bought a 3 dollar windows 10 pro key lol

#

off of eBay

tardy shoal
#

Oh I was thinking of the ISO from the 3rd parties

near steppe
#

you just need a usb and download the windows os installer off the microsoft download site.

noble turtle
#

hell no

#

never iso from 3rd party lol

tardy shoal
#

Yeah but some people dont know that

full wing
#

the easiest way to get windows is get the format legit from Microsoft, then buy a cheap key off of eBay

#

Works 100% of the time

near steppe
#

ehhh

tardy shoal
#

Craigslist also sell keys for super cheap

near steppe
#

i'd be careful for all of those

#

hahahaha

full wing
#

eBay is protected by money back

#

So I prefer eBay

hallow aurora
#

Best thing to do is to not skimp or find backdoor ways into building your first pc... that way nothing can go wrong and if it does... everything is still under warranty

full wing
#

Never used Craigslist tho

tardy shoal
#

Nah they are legit and completely real...The people that make keys buy a key generator and it just makes keys and they sell the keys

halcyon fractal
#

Well i guess you all have me convinced to build one so what will i need in total?

full wing
#

Money

tardy shoal
#

Well how much you trying to spend?

full wing
#

That’s it

hallow aurora
#

To be honest building a pc is not hard at all 😄

tardy shoal
#

Thats all you need to ask.

near steppe
#

mad is new to pc building tho

halcyon fractal
#

1 - 1.2 thousand usd

full wing
#

I built my first pc with YouTube

tardy shoal
#

for 1100 you can get a really good PC

#

1200

full wing
#

I had no background experience either

halcyon fossil
#

@halcyon fractal what are you using your pc for?

halcyon fractal
#

Mostly ark survival

hallow aurora
#

Neither did I lol built mine just fine 😄

halcyon fossil
#

ok

#

so gaming basically

halcyon fractal
#

But rust and other games

full wing
#

@halcyon fractal my pc cost around 1100$ do you want the spec list?

halcyon fractal
#

Yes

halcyon fossil
#

ok

halcyon fractal
#

Sure

full wing
noble turtle
full wing
#

Prices probably have changed since I got the CPU 30$ off but that shouldn’t change much

noble turtle
#

Rust is a great game @halcyon fractal

tardy shoal
#

I wouldnt go seagate for HD but thats up to you

full wing
#

Why not

halcyon fractal
#

Yeah i enjoy watching it ive never played it though

hallow aurora
#

One question does your budget also include monitor or just the pc alone?

full wing
#

Just the pc

halcyon fractal
#

Just pc

tardy shoal
#

They are known to corrupt the easiest out of all the other HDs

full wing
#

Oh I didn’t know that

hallow aurora
#

then 1100 is good enough to build you a monster pc to run ark and rust lol luckly those dont have high graphics to begin with

tardy shoal
#

Yeah, they are cheap and work for a short investment for space but Id recommend upgrading it down the road...Also you always need more space

full wing
#

the 2060 would be your best bet for GPU with a 1200$ budget

#

Yeah I’m already thinking about getting another ssd

noble turtle
#

@hallow aurora Rust will destroy any pc, it's just badly optimized...

full wing
#

Kinda want an M2 ssd

tardy shoal
#

I have a 2tb SSD

full wing
#

👀

hallow aurora
#

like i said they could also just buy a 1080 or 1080 ti and still have more than enough juice to run those specific games on max settings

tardy shoal
#

Its nice

full wing
#

Beefy ssd

halcyon fractal
#

So the link that you sent @noble turtle would be everything i would need ?

noble turtle
#

pretty much, I'm adding some more cause I forgot a few things

halcyon fossil
#

Computer Component Buying Checklist: (Correct me if i forgot something):
Processor (Ryzen 5/Intel Core i5 or better)
Motherboard (Make sure you get one thats good enough for your use case, and get a really good one if youre doing overclocking)
Graphics Card (GTX 1070/RTX 2060 or better)
RAM (16GB or more for gaming)
Power Supply (850w is a good standard unless you have super extreme hardware, this large size also is good for upgrading later)
Storage Devices (can be SSD or HDD, SSD is faster)
Case with 3 or more fans (fans can be bought aftermarket but they can be expensive if you want RGB)

noble turtle
#

like case fans

near steppe
halcyon fractal
#

Okk

tardy shoal
#

Yeah but realistically even if I was to fill my SSD, I have another 15tb waiting for it. I would just switch out my games and just switch them onto the SSD whenever I paly

hallow aurora
#

I have no case fans 😦

halcyon fossil
#

ugh my power went out

hallow aurora
#

Have a thermaltake P5

#

requires no fans 😄

halcyon fossil
#

i recommend the Thermaltake Level 20 MT ARGB

tardy shoal
#

Ive spent way too much on my PC :/

halcyon fossil
#

comes with all the case fans you need, looks good, includes a PSU cover for even better looks, RGB, and all for $100

warm belfry
#

:•

#

That’s still expensive

tardy shoal
#

And I dont even ahve anything to upgrade anymore...I finally upgraded my processor and that was the last thing I needed

halcyon fossil
#

powers back on

#

also was my component buying checklist good?

tardy shoal
#

Could upgrade to the intel zeon

hallow aurora
#

i was going to upgrade to the 2700x but waiting for 3700x now and a better MB

near steppe
tardy shoal
#

Intel is the only way to go

halcyon fossil
#

????

near steppe
#

i like intel too

halcyon fossil
#

intel is good but have you seen Ryzen 3rd gen?

near steppe
#

3rd gen isnt even out yet

hallow aurora
#

for gaming alone yes hands down... but i use mine for other projects and amd is destroying intel in that aspect

halcyon fossil
#

ik

near steppe
halcyon fossil
#

but it looks good so far

near steppe
#

on paper it does

#

we'll see in july

halcyon fossil
#

yeah

tardy shoal
#

well guess Ill ahve to save up for the intel xeon

#

Thats the last upgrade I will ever need for years now

hallow aurora
#

sadly everything now gets outdated within 2-4 years :/ before components would last you 4-5.... damn technology boom lol

tardy shoal
#

Nahhh my build as is will last the next 6-7 years...They are using my PC at college universities for extreme astrophysics simulators.

#

And my build runs it flawless and it doesnt even come close to maxing it out

full wing
#

Specs? @tardy shoal

tardy shoal
#

Intel I9 9900k
Nvidia 2080 ti
64gb of ram
Z239 Godlike
Phanteks Enthoo Elite Extreme Full Tower Chassis Aluminum

#

Watercooling

#

2tb SSD

full wing
#

😳

halcyon fossil
#

custom loop?

tardy shoal
#

3 5tb WD Black

hallow aurora
#

is that ssd a nvme ?

tardy shoal
#

Nah my local computer store had one, idk the brnad or anything dont really care about it but they hooked everything up and everything

halcyon fossil
#

@halcyon fractal along with the release of those new processors next month also comes new motherboards which support PCI 4.0 which is faster than the current PCI 3.0

tardy shoal
#

No @hallow aurora it is a 860 evo samsung 2tb

halcyon fossil
#

there arent many things that support it yet, but if you wanna be future proof id wait till next month too see if the new AMD processors are worth it

#

its also backwards compatible so no worries there

tardy shoal
#

Just go i9 and never worry again

halcyon fractal
#

I will need to save up for this anyways so it might be next month anyways lol

halcyon fossil
#

lol

#

@tardy shoal while the i9 is great, the next gen amd processors might be better and cheaper

tardy shoal
#

You can buy it piece by piece, you dont need to buy it all at once

halcyon fossil
#

we will see though

tardy shoal
#

Uhhh doubtful

halcyon fossil
#

how so

tardy shoal
#

It might be cheaper but Intel has always been better than AMD

near steppe
#

amd hasnt been known to better at IPC than intel, i also doubt 3rd gen

halcyon fossil
#

and thats evidence that they will always be better though?

tardy shoal
#

Realistically if you only play for gaming the AMD is the better choice but for cybersecurity and coding I need intel

halcyon fossil
#

oh

#

well yeah

#

they have their different strengths

#

whats IPC? @near steppe (sorry im dumb)

near steppe
#

instructions per cycle

halcyon fossil
#

oh

#

ok

near steppe
halcyon fossil
#

thanks

noble turtle
halcyon fossil
#

i love the case :)

noble turtle
#

yeah didn't feel like finding fans

near steppe
#

@noble turtle the memory speed is fine, try to find one with lower cas latency to make ryzen better

halcyon fossil
#

wait a minute

noble turtle
#

pcpartpicker not me

halcyon fossil
#

ik im just messing with u

#

anyways

#

why the micro atx board?

noble turtle
#

all the cheap b450 mobos are matx

halcyon fossil
#

hm ok

#

just a note

#

the stock cooler with that processor might block a ram slot

#

just be careful

noble turtle
#

nvm found a good ATX one for $10 more

halcyon fossil
#

yeah

#

go with that

noble turtle
#

asrock b450 pro4

#

I trust asrock too

halcyon fossil
#

havent heard of asrock that much

#

idk if theyre any good

#

i wont judge tho

#

some people say thermaltake is cheap and fake but i think theyre a good brand

noble turtle
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I've had the same asrock mobo for 8+ years...not a single problem

halcyon fossil
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huh

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ok then

noble turtle
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@near steppe what cas latency would you reccomend

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the cheapest cas 15 jumps up $100 for a 32gb kit

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for 3200mhz that is

near steppe
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14 or lower if you can xD, but this is all preference

halcyon fossil
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what does cas latency mean?

near steppe
noble turtle
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is the drop to 3000mhz worth a 14/15 cas latency?

near steppe
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no

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3200 cas 15 should be fine

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its basically nano seconds

noble turtle
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ok

near steppe
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which no real human unless you're ocd will actually care about

noble turtle
halcyon fossil
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thanks

noble turtle
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two 2x8gb kits of 3200mhz cas 15

near steppe
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that can work if you dont mind prices

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you don't have to listen to me sataniaWeary

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ryzens work better with faster ram

halcyon fossil
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on AMDs site it says the Ryzen 2700x supports up to 2933mhz

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and 2 memory channels

viral reef
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i use 16gb 2x8gb trident z 3200 mhz for my ryzen 7

halcyon fossil
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what ryzen 7 is it?

viral reef
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1700

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upgrading to the new 12 core when it launches

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currently my build is ryzen 7 1700, asrock gaming x x370 and evga gtx 1070 . Switching to 12 core ryzen 9 , asus strix x570-e and amd rx5700

halcyon fossil
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nice

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thats a pretty dang good update

tardy shoal
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im done upgrading on mine. Not unless a ground breaking graphics card or something comes out.

halcyon fossil
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idk if the gpu upgrade is all that important tho @viral reef

tardy shoal
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nvm I lied, Im upgrading to a 4tb Samsung Evo SSD then that will be my last upgrade ever

halcyon fossil
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nice

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give it a couple years and ur gonna be doing upgrades again 😂

tardy shoal
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nah, realistically my graphics card wont be another upgrade for at least 4 years, Im guessing the 6 year rate. My processor is the same lines and motherboard I shouldnt ever have to replace. My ram is good at 4x16gb sticks. Like honestly there is not anything out there that can clock my pc out and thats including every VR game out there and simulators.

halcyon fossil
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🤷

tardy shoal
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My dad has a 1080 TI and does Nascar simulators and doesnt even have any issues there either

halcyon fossil
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well thats good

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but things are always getting better

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and more power hungry

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but yeah your build is gonna last awhile

tardy shoal
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bruh Im telling you, it will be years till anything is strenuous on my build and I mean years at which point I can still run this build for another few years.

halcyon fossil
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just wait for ray tracing vr games 😄

tardy shoal
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I barely use 10% even gaming across the board and I play VR minecraft alot and that only gets me up to the 15% mark

halcyon fossil
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ok

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im not doubting your pc will last a long time

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just saying this wont be the end-all of upgrades for the rest of eternity

tardy shoal
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You right but I dont have to think about it for a long time. Honestly really want that 4tb SSD though but at the same time its so unnecessary :/

halcyon fossil
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well a lot of that is unnecessary (no offense)

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but yea 4tb is a lot

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especially with an SSD

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thats gonna be good

tardy shoal
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I mean I have 17tb total :/

halcyon fossil
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holy-

tardy shoal
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would be 19 with the new SSD :/

halcyon fossil
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niceee

tardy shoal
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But again I barely have 1tb full on my SSD and have 10 still on my HHDs

halcyon fossil
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wow

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i can do vr minecraft on my gtx 1050ti

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its not that great tho

tardy shoal
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I play it on my 2080TI and its fantasballs

halcyon fossil
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on a 2080Ti is gonna be a dream

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what vr headset do you have?

tardy shoal
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HTC

halcyon fossil
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vive or vive pro

tardy shoal
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Just got them 2 weeks ago and loving them so far

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Vive

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No sorry Vive Pro

halcyon fossil
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nice

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vive pro eye?

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their naming system is wack

halcyon fossil
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ah ok

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i have a really bootleg windows mixed reality headset

tardy shoal
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Yeah, I just happen to be able to pay for it thankfully and dont have to many bills to pay xD otherwise I wouldnt be able to build something this nice

halcyon fossil
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yep

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@tardy shoal have u played beat saber?

tardy shoal
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yes played it and hated it

halcyon fossil
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why?

prisma jolt
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Anyone play ark?

halcyon fossil
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nah

tardy shoal
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because it wasnt my type of game

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I used to but not anymore

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I played it during pre release

halcyon fossil
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hm

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did you ever get the custom levels mod?

tardy shoal
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no but again not game style

halcyon fossil
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hm ok

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have you ever tried google earth vr

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its crazy

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and free

tardy shoal
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No I havent

halcyon fossil
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like its not a game or anything but its so cool

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its super immersie too

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immersive*

tardy shoal
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can I go underwater?

halcyon fossil
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i havent tried that

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it lets you do street view in vr

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you can go wherever you want

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i went to my friends house and say him on his trampoline lmao

tardy shoal
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I like the call of duty VR game

halcyon fossil
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never heard of it

tardy shoal
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you can play bo3 in VR