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open gazelle Feb 29, 2020, 10:29 PM

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some

silent marsh Feb 29, 2020, 10:29 PM

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+- that fact the corno virus is going to raise tech prices?

open gazelle Feb 29, 2020, 10:29 PM

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are alright

unique loom Feb 29, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I have a pretty bad one, but its still super fast

open gazelle Feb 29, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Prices will be affected soon, but not yet

unique loom Feb 29, 2020, 10:29 PM

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quite soon

open gazelle Feb 29, 2020, 10:30 PM

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As generally chinese newyear is like 3 - 4 weeks, then time for factories to see who quits during that time.

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So like, so far we are still in the shutdown time area whether the virus existed or not

unique loom Feb 29, 2020, 10:31 PM

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its 2

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or at least for most

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But factories in south korea have been shut down due to corona

sweet badge Feb 29, 2020, 10:31 PM

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yuh

open gazelle Feb 29, 2020, 10:31 PM

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I mean I sourced that from GN who talked with other factories

unique loom Feb 29, 2020, 10:31 PM

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samsung factories

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samsung has a monopoly on ram

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kinda

shut furnace Feb 29, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Hard drives ftw

plush crag Mar 1, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Micron and SJ Hynix put out lots of popular kits last year.

sweet badge Mar 1, 2020, 12:40 AM

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yuh their e die is killing in the budget market, but for high performance kits b die is the top

deep cobalt Mar 1, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Samsung still produces 70% of the worlds B die

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soooooo

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anyways

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Rev E is epic

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DJR, JJR and CJR are also pretty cool

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but I run B die daily and its pretty epic

fiery tendon Mar 2, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Do you guys think a heatsink for a M.2 is necessary?

unique loom Mar 2, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Nope @fiery tendon

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Actually...

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Depends on the drice

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Drive

open gazelle Mar 2, 2020, 8:29 PM

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rarely, but most heatsinks fail to be proper heatsinks. The controller should be the only thing cooled and not the NAND itself as the NAND works better when hot

shut furnace Mar 2, 2020, 9:52 PM

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yee they don't really need heatsinks, maybe some gen4 drives

sweet badge Mar 2, 2020, 9:52 PM

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i mean if they have one included why not use it

unique loom Mar 2, 2020, 9:53 PM

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True

plush crag Mar 2, 2020, 11:33 PM

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I just pad the controller between the memory controller and the goop.

vestal reef Mar 3, 2020, 1:58 AM

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What's the difference between these 2 drives?

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Is the bottom one better?

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I see they have slightly different connectors on them

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Does that affect combatitbility with my board (ASUS Tuf b450 pro)

nocturne sand Mar 3, 2020, 2:14 AM

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I believe one is NVMe and the other isn't

eager epoch Mar 3, 2020, 2:14 AM

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I think that the sn550 is faster but ive also seen people say to avoid in favor for a better nvme

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but yes the bottom is NVME and the top is sata

vestal reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Will both fit in the m.2 spot on my board

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What's the difference between nvme and sata

hazy bobcat Mar 3, 2020, 2:15 AM

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speed of the drive

vestal reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Which one is faster?

hazy bobcat Mar 3, 2020, 2:16 AM

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NVMe is faster compared to SATA

eager epoch Mar 3, 2020, 2:16 AM

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it looks like yours will only fit M key m.2 drives.

vestal reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:16 AM

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And will that nvme one fit in the m.2 spot on my board?

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Is that bottom one a m key?

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Sry I dont know a think about this

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Idk what m key means

eager epoch Mar 3, 2020, 2:18 AM

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ok i looked and both of those should fit i believe, but the bottom one is M key

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the top is B+M

vestal reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:19 AM

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How can you tell?

eager epoch Mar 3, 2020, 2:19 AM

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ok so there is B key and M key

vestal reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Ok

eager epoch Mar 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

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B key will usually be on the top but it has 6 pins separated. M key will be on the bottom but has 5 pins separated. if it has 2 notches, its B+M

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but also the NVME one says M next to the notch.

vestal reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Alright thanks. So I think I'm gonna pick up that bottom one. It's a pretty good price

eager epoch Mar 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

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im not 100% sure on this but I THINK B key is used in things like m.2 wifi cards and such

vestal reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Ok

eager epoch Mar 3, 2020, 2:21 AM

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now another thing to keep in mind, i heard that ones good but people still say to avoid it cause its missing something? im not sure.

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@open gazelle what was the blue m.2 missing or whatever?

vestal reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Lol I have no idea...

minor sun Mar 3, 2020, 2:22 AM

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prob dram cache

open gazelle Mar 3, 2020, 2:22 AM

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^

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SN550 that is

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Blue3D still has it

vestal reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Is that bad

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That it doesnt have it

minor sun Mar 3, 2020, 2:23 AM

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dramless is bad

open gazelle Mar 3, 2020, 2:23 AM

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in specific scenarios it is. easily worse then SATA with DRAM

vestal reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Ok do you have a better suggestion then for 500gbs

eager epoch Mar 3, 2020, 2:24 AM

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thats what i wanted to warn about lol. i didnt know what it was, just that it had an issue 😛

vestal reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Lol it's all good

open gazelle Mar 3, 2020, 2:25 AM

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cheapest decent SATA: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XZzkcf/team-l5-lite-3d-480gb-25-solid-state-drive-t253td480g3c101
cheapest decent NVMe: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z4jJ7P/mushkin-pilot-500gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mknssdpl500gb-d8

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for half tb

vestal reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:25 AM

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It's cheap but is it reliable

open gazelle Mar 3, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I havent heard any issues

shut furnace Mar 3, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Eww green pcb

vestal reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Would it be better to pay a lil more to have a brand name

shut furnace Mar 3, 2020, 2:26 AM

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That’s an issue

open gazelle Mar 3, 2020, 2:26 AM

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brand name means little tbh

vestal reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Green is kinda... meh

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Ok

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Hows this one?

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open gazelle Mar 3, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Good, but kinda pricy for what it is

paper girder Mar 3, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Hey guys. I have a question. I currently am using this https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-512gb/p/N82E16820250085?Item=N82E16820250085. Was gonna get another but Newegg doesn't have this in stock anymore. Will this be a direct replacement (just newer model?)

https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-500gb/p/N82E16820250109 Will bet getting the 1tb model though.

ripe orchid Mar 3, 2020, 8:06 PM

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It's just the 2017 vs the 2019 versions

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The newer one is much faster though

open gazelle Mar 3, 2020, 8:20 PM

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@paper girder 750sn is quite overpriced

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also out of stock a lot more then other models

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Unless you have two NVMe M2 slots I wouldnt get another NVMe drive. Just get a 1tb 2.5" SSD and now you have 1512gb of SSD storage

paper girder Mar 3, 2020, 8:59 PM

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@open gazelle I have a second slot. But I don't know if my motherboard cancels out sata ports w/ this m.2.. Isn't that a thing w/ some models?

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Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

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I wouldn't mind this.. Its a 2tb 10 dollars cheaper than that m.2. What kind of speed differences we talking? https://www.newegg.com/model-wdba2w0020bbk-wesn-2tb/p/N82E16822234387

open gazelle Mar 3, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Speeds in seq and random will be much slower due to being USB

tribal ocean Mar 3, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Opinions on Sk hynix gold SSDs, sata interface

open gazelle Mar 3, 2020, 9:11 PM

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good

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not usually the best price to perf

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but overall good perf

tribal ocean Mar 3, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Price seems right since I have a giftcard, puts it around $97 for 1TB

open gazelle Mar 3, 2020, 9:13 PM

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$97 for a 1tb is a good deal

tribal ocean Mar 3, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Was initially looking at an 860 QVO

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But the sk hynix has dram, and prices are really going to shoot up any day because of shortages

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Predicted shortages anyway

open gazelle Mar 3, 2020, 9:16 PM

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I mean QVO has dram too, but NAND type is QLC so it's meh

tribal ocean Mar 3, 2020, 9:16 PM

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For some reason i thought it didnt have dram

open gazelle Mar 3, 2020, 9:18 PM

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What's the giftcard for? Amazon or Newegg?

tribal ocean Mar 3, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Amazon

open gazelle Mar 3, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Not too much worth it, but this does have slightly better perf. Hynix is still good enough tbh
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QQT471T?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

tribal ocean Mar 3, 2020, 9:44 PM

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the s31 gold looks like it still performs better and has a 5 year warranty

open gazelle Mar 3, 2020, 10:24 PM

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In seq read/write it loses, but random Vulcan is better in

tribal ocean Mar 3, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Ah, I managed to overlook that one. Thanks for pointing that out!

pallid forum Mar 5, 2020, 10:17 AM

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unless you can get the sn750 for a really good price

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stay away from it lol

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i've seen 500gb of it sell for like 70

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and 65

ember ruin Mar 6, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Are wd black nvme ssd any good

unique loom Mar 6, 2020, 1:42 PM

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@ember ruin yes but not for price

shut furnace Mar 6, 2020, 1:56 PM

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very fast and very expensive

ember ruin Mar 6, 2020, 2:28 PM

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b e t

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I was gonna buy 2tb for a game drive

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Any other recommendations?

unique loom Mar 6, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Ssd or hdd

deep cobalt Mar 7, 2020, 1:48 AM

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why NVMe game storage?

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kinda dumb

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not much uses parralel request

upper kernel Mar 7, 2020, 2:17 AM

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I am repairing a dell OptiPlex 9020, needs new 2.5 inch Ssd Hybrid. are all 2.5 inch compatible?

deep cobalt Mar 7, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Hyybrids suck

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just saying

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utterly useless

upper kernel Mar 7, 2020, 3:18 AM

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thanks, good to know

supple basalt Mar 7, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Hey do you guys know what connector this is for an old hard drive

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torpid adder Mar 7, 2020, 8:12 PM

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that's molex

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or

supple basalt Mar 7, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Do you know if we can get s slitter for molex and Sara Power cause we got 2 with stuff on them that we need

torpid adder Mar 7, 2020, 8:14 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molex_connector

Molex connector

Molex connector is the vernacular term for a two-piece pin and socket interconnection. Pioneered by Molex Connector Company, the two-piece design became an early electronic standard. Molex developed and patented the first examples of this connector style in the late 1950s and ...

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yeah

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so what would that be, SATA to Molex
. Molex

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or Molex to SATA
. SATA

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etc.?

supple basalt Mar 7, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Ok

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Thank you for your help

red jay Mar 7, 2020, 8:19 PM

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I'd recommend you try and find a converter that's a mother sata on one side and a father molex on the other side.

torpid adder Mar 7, 2020, 8:19 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Power-Cable-Adapter-Female-8-inch/dp/B07BQFKTG7/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=molex+to+sata&qid=1583612260&sr=8-8

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?

red jay Mar 7, 2020, 8:21 PM

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that would work!

torpid adder Mar 7, 2020, 8:22 PM

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you wanted a splitter that powers two Molex drives, right>

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?

supple basalt Mar 7, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Are there ways to do it externally cause our desktop was really old and we scraped it besides the hhds

torpid adder Mar 7, 2020, 8:22 PM

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a spare psu

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you have to route the data cable to the motherboard still, or some form of usb adapter

red jay Mar 7, 2020, 8:24 PM

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yeah

torpid adder Mar 7, 2020, 8:24 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/BENFEI-Drive-Adapter-Cable-Compatible/dp/B07F7WDZGT/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=sata+to+usb+adapter&qid=1583612630&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyODdVQjBETDhIOTNWJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODI5NTYzTEJQMFBQRVFKMTkyJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyNDY2MzQzVlJFMUlJMk9BQTRMJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

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glorious url

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something like that

supple basalt Mar 7, 2020, 8:25 PM

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My God thank you guys so much I really appreciate it

torpid adder Mar 7, 2020, 8:25 PM

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you're welcome

red jay Mar 7, 2020, 8:26 PM

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I did nothing more than have fun, thank you!

torpid adder Mar 7, 2020, 8:28 PM

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oh and with that usb adapter you shouldn't need a spare psu if you're using a SATA to Molex adapter, you can of course just plug it into the usb adapter

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I think

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xd

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I've used that usb adapter personally 👀

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red jay Mar 7, 2020, 8:29 PM

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yeah usb 3.0's are GOOOD power transports

heady raven Mar 7, 2020, 8:38 PM

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@supple basalt usb external dock is the way to go

torpid adder Mar 7, 2020, 8:38 PM

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oo I forgot about those

heady raven Mar 7, 2020, 8:39 PM

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@supple basalt heck, have a look around in the cupboards, see if you have an OLD external drive that you are not using anymore, fair chance that it has the connectors you need on the inside

plush crag Mar 8, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Picked up 10 for $200 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-10-Samsung-840-Pro-128GB-SSD-DELL-P-N-0P9P2T-OEM-MZ7PD128-1YR-WTY/114063978363

eBay

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Lot of 10 - Samsung 840 Pro 128GB 2.5" SSD DELL P/N 0P9P2T OEM SM841 MZ7PD128HAFV - Tested/Working - No Bad Sectors - Professionally Wiped. Our Condition Details: Lot of 10 - Samsung 840 Pro 128GB 2.5" SSD DELL P/N 0P9P2T OEM SM841 MZ7PD128HAFV - Tested/Working - No Bad Sector...

paper vessel Mar 8, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Anyone know good storage that’s around 500gb to 1tb

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Hat drive or sad

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Ssd

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I am very new to PCs

gloomy ferry Mar 8, 2020, 7:11 AM

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sabrent 512gb m.2

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3200 MB read 3000MB write

paper vessel Mar 8, 2020, 7:13 AM

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Thanks

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@gloomy ferry link?

gloomy ferry Mar 8, 2020, 7:15 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-SB-ROCKET-512-Rocket-Internal-Performance/dp/B07KGMBCKD/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=sabrent+512+nvme&qid=1583651702&sr=8-2

paper vessel Mar 8, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Gracias

gloomy ferry Mar 8, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Just got this baby

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1sat_coolio

paper vessel Mar 8, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Hmm

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It’s m.2

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I think I should just get that one ssd by a data

deep cobalt Mar 8, 2020, 7:40 AM

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@gloomy ferry why specifically the rocket?

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why not an EX920, an Inland premium, an mp510

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first uses SM2262, other 2 use E12 like the rocket

gloomy ferry Mar 8, 2020, 8:12 AM

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I have not heard of any of those

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And idk what you're talking about, controller?

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Uh oh I don't think I did this right

open gazelle Mar 8, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Rocket use to be okay for price but now is quite bad. Thus not a great recommendation

orchid blaze Mar 9, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Anyone know why this is happening? I used to get gigabyte speeds but now I have 1 mbps? It’s copying from an sd card to a hard drive

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shut furnace Mar 9, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Hard drive and sd are slow maybe?

orchid blaze Mar 9, 2020, 3:40 AM

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It’s not usually

torpid adder Mar 9, 2020, 9:26 AM

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MB/s not Mbps

orchid blaze Mar 9, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Same thing

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Megabytes per second

latent smelt Mar 10, 2020, 12:48 AM

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gigglebits

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always

mint dagger Mar 10, 2020, 10:22 PM

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if i have an nvme with my os

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does it make sense to get an ssd so my games will load faster

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i’m not sure just how slow an hdd can be

shut furnace Mar 11, 2020, 12:23 AM

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For games a hdd can be fine unless you are competitive

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Nowadays I just go all ssd

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But if all games is what you need it for it’s fine

rose breach Mar 11, 2020, 12:30 AM

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I have a 1tb sata ssd that I put all my frequently played games on like gta and minecraft

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Then I have a 6tb hdd for everything else

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And a 1tb nvme for all my OSs

turbid hawk Mar 11, 2020, 11:31 PM

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I need a new drive to add to my game storage

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Samsung sata 3 SSD 1TB or an NVME 1TB

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Which is worth the money more

minor sun Mar 11, 2020, 11:31 PM

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why samsung

turbid hawk Mar 11, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Idk that’s the one I saw

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110 bucks

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Nvme idk what one id get but probably something around 100-150

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But are the speeds between nvme and Sata that different if they are just loading games

minor sun Mar 11, 2020, 11:33 PM

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not too much

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but dont go samsun

turbid hawk Mar 11, 2020, 11:34 PM

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What if the Samsung was on sale for same price as like western digital?

minor sun Mar 11, 2020, 11:34 PM

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What is it rn

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samsung is usually way overpriced

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TC Sunbow 1tb is only 105 USD

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when samsung 860 evo is usually around 150 USD

turbid hawk Mar 11, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Yeah I saw last week they had an evo on sale at a local tech store for 115

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1TB

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I’ll probably go with a crucial bx500 Sata SSD and save the m.2 Slot for a replacement boot drive

minor sun Mar 11, 2020, 11:38 PM

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bx?

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crucial is expensive too but ok

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if you can get evo for 115 do it

vestal reef Mar 12, 2020, 1:40 AM

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How much did all those cost

open gazelle Mar 12, 2020, 1:57 AM

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@minor sun Sunbow x3 bad. X3 has some rebrands that're horrible

minor sun Mar 12, 2020, 1:58 AM

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?

torpid adder Mar 12, 2020, 3:11 AM

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X3

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https://media.tenor.com/images/c7cbfb379ac4e71b014a580fdbd3f443/tenor.gif

plush crag Mar 12, 2020, 6:00 AM

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$20 a piece

minor sun Mar 14, 2020, 4:35 AM

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:D looking pretty fine for mp510

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torpid adder Mar 14, 2020, 8:42 PM

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👀

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vroom

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Does someone want to explain what Intel optane is to me?

torpid adder Mar 15, 2020, 1:48 AM

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vroom

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:)

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Uh wut

shut furnace Mar 15, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Fastest and most expensive ssd

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 1:49 AM

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What makes it faster

shut furnace Mar 15, 2020, 1:49 AM

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No need to get it tho

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 1:50 AM

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I saw this pcie one for like 1300 bucks

shut furnace Mar 15, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Only if you want like a small 32gb drive for os

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Yeah they expensive

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 1:50 AM

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How much faster could it possibly be

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And what would be the benefit to just putting the os on one.

shut furnace Mar 15, 2020, 1:51 AM

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I don’t think it’s worth it

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Not for the average user at least

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Ya I'm not considering it I'm just curious

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 1:58 AM

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@vestal reef short or longer answer?

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Let's start with the short answer :) and see where it goes from there

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:00 AM

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how much do you know about flash (as in, the type that ssd's are made from)?

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Not much

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:01 AM

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okay, i am going to handwave some details then

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Thats probably a good idea

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:02 AM

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the core of "why do ssd's feel so much more responsive vs hdd" is latency/response/seek times

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Yes

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:03 AM

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but, even for "normal" flash there is some variance

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Ok

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:03 AM

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it is still leagues faster vs hdd

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:03 AM

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For sure

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:03 AM

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but there is variance in the flash itself

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Ok

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:04 AM

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optane is made to fix that

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Ok and how does it do that

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:04 AM

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it is at silly levels of consistence in regards to giving you the same speed at any given time

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its a enterprise level tech that has been moved to consumer level products

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Ok so regardless of whether you need the speed at the moment. Its going to deliver

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:06 AM

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basically yes

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Ok nice

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:06 AM

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it might not be the fastest at throughput, but it will always give you the same result

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which is VERY important in enterprise

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burst performance is useless in enterprise

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Ok so what would be the benefit of buying a 32gb optane drive just to put your os on

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:07 AM

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how to explain ..

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you are aware of hybrid drive? sshd?

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Yes

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:08 AM

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that is the intent for the small optane drives

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but it is optane + ssd

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it is not as such for placing the OS on

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it can be used for it, sure

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but not the intent

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:09 AM

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What would be the intent then

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:09 AM

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a offload "cache" for a storage array

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so that the array of drives behind the optane "cache" can grab from it

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Would that almost be like specialized ram?

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:10 AM

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kinda, yes

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Ok that makes sense

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:11 AM

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and this is where things get real effing murky

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because there is a version of optane that is meant to go into ram slots

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Oh rly wow

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I can see where the confusion comes in :)

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:11 AM

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as i said, enterprise tech in a consumer product

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:12 AM

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So basically there's no reason to use that technology as a consumer

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Right?

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:12 AM

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as a regular/non-hedt consumer? imo, no.

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Ok uh what does hedt mean lol

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:13 AM

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high-end-desk-top

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:13 AM

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I'm sry I don't know a lot but I'm trying to learn

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:13 AM

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think stuff like threadripper

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nothing to be sorry about mate

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Alright thats a good analogy

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:13 AM

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as i have said before, there are no stupid questions, only silly answers

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Yep I remember :)

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Ok well thx for the little teaching session.

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:14 AM

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np :)

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:14 AM

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I appreciate you taking your time to help me

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:14 AM

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i love talking about tech, so anytime :)

vestal reef Mar 15, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I as well ;)

torpid adder Mar 15, 2020, 2:48 AM

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would it be possible to use a ram expansion card as a sort of cache like optane?

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:48 AM

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when you say "ram expansion card", what do you actually mean? [edit:what]

torpid adder Mar 15, 2020, 2:49 AM

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a PCI-E card with dimm slots on it

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:49 AM

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that would be slow as all heck

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remember, the bandwidth that pci-e has is very little vs what the ram slots has

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but, in theory, yes, it could be done.

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and what you are talking about, could be debated to be "kinda" like optane (but not)

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(it all depends on what type of optane etc etc)

torpid adder Mar 15, 2020, 2:51 AM

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hehe

heady raven Mar 15, 2020, 2:52 AM

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the "optane" name is a bit of a mess really

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because it can mean so very many things

torpid adder Mar 15, 2020, 2:52 AM

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ah

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I suppose that makes sense when there are some that go in dimm slots

opaque kelp Mar 16, 2020, 12:56 AM

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what is a good cheap ssd+hdd combo?

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ssd for boot drive and some games and hdd just for more games and extra storage

copper dagger Mar 16, 2020, 1:57 AM

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what cheap 1TB NVME ssd would you guys recommend?

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plush crag Mar 16, 2020, 2:03 AM

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P1 or EX920.

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opaque kelp Mar 16, 2020, 5:22 PM

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its out of stock

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Cheapest it’s available is at newegg, which is $115

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So whats the best cheapest nvme?

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p1 and ex920 still?

cerulean light Mar 16, 2020, 8:04 PM

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My ssd won't be recognized anymore and I can't figure out why

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Can somebody help with that

red jay Mar 16, 2020, 8:23 PM

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well what have you done so far?

vestal reef Mar 17, 2020, 2:18 PM

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How can you tell if a ssd has a dram cache

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 2:23 PM

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read reviews or go looking in the actual specs for it @vestal reef

vestal reef Mar 17, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Ok. Most of the time when I look in the specs I can't find it. That might just mean it doesn't have it then tho

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 2:38 PM

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@vestal reef not quite, read reviews or use good old google

vestal reef Mar 17, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Alright ill try it out next time I see one

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Whats a good cheap 1tb, 500gb, or 250gb nvme ssd?

keen urchin Mar 17, 2020, 5:10 PM

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if youre looking for cheap, id go intel 660p or crucial p1

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or

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sabrent rocket

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:10 PM

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what is the cheapest one?

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for its storage

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 5:19 PM

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for raw storage, nvme is not exactly super cheap @opaque kelp

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:20 PM

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well boot drive and one or two games?

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 5:20 PM

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just pick a regular ssd, either in 2.5 size or m.2

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:20 PM

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whats a good price to storage ssd then?

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preferably like a 1tb one that is good and cheap

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because i want to load fast in games

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i don't want an xbox faster than my pc

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scary

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 5:22 PM

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last i saw you talk about your build, i didnt see a budget mentioned

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have you settled on something there?

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as for storage: something like the WD Blue 500gig@65-ish usd (same price for both 2.5 and m.2)

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:24 PM

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okay

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im decided whether if i should up my budget to 1k

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i could sell my current pc for atleast $250 which would make the 1k pc more like an $800 one

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@heady raven

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 5:26 PM

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so about 1k budget

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:26 PM

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yes

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 5:29 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CGKm7T

System Builder

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that should do the trick on all fronts

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@opaque kelp

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:32 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bDB3sk

System Builder

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was actually looking at this

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@heady raven

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 5:32 PM

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tomahawk is overpriced

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:32 PM

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no its not?

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 5:32 PM

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oh yes

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very much so actually

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its a board that has a reputation that it doesnt deserve

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question: do you plan to OC your cpu?

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:38 PM

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i dont really know

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 5:38 PM

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because that is the ONLY thing that board has going for it

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everything else? its bad at

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:38 PM

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well upgrade path?

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 5:38 PM

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same for both

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same chipset

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same max supported cpu

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:39 PM

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i mean im prob going to oc it

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better performance

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 5:39 PM

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with what cooler?

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:39 PM

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yes?

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 5:39 PM

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no, that was not a "yes or no" question

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:39 PM

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kinda is?

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 5:40 PM

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what cooler are you going to use for OC'ing the cpu?

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:40 PM

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oh

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i read it with that cooler

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 5:40 PM

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because there is no cooler that will get you anywhere in the build you linked

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:40 PM

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well i dont konw

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ill see later

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i have hella hw

heady raven Mar 17, 2020, 5:41 PM

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at your budget, you are way better off buying for what you have now VS "maybe, perhaps" wishfull thinking for the future

opaque kelp Mar 17, 2020, 5:41 PM

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okay

winter lake Mar 18, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Hey rookie question for y’all but I’m wanting to add a 2Tb external hd to my pc to put my games on when I download them but I’m wanting it to internal what would y’all recommend?

somber remnant Mar 18, 2020, 4:50 PM

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put ur games on an ssd

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and files onto hard drive

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but a 2TB hard drive

winter lake Mar 18, 2020, 4:51 PM

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I did but the ssd I have isn’t that big

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It’s a 1tb and already full

somber remnant Mar 18, 2020, 4:51 PM

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damn

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try to clean it, putting games on it is much better

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but https://www.newegg.com/blue-wd20ezaz-2tb/p/N82E16822234372?Description=2tb hdd&cm_re=2tb_hdd-_-22-234-372-_-Product&quicklink=true

winter lake Mar 18, 2020, 4:51 PM

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I was just wanting to just add another one

somber remnant Mar 18, 2020, 4:51 PM

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is on sale rn and is good

winter lake Mar 18, 2020, 4:51 PM

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If possibly

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Possible

somber remnant Mar 18, 2020, 4:52 PM

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so an ssd?

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or a hard drive

winter lake Mar 18, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Which ever one is better for gaming

somber remnant Mar 18, 2020, 4:53 PM

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ssd for sure

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whats ur budget at?

winter lake Mar 18, 2020, 4:53 PM

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That link you sent isnt ssd

somber remnant Mar 18, 2020, 4:53 PM

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ik because u asked for hard drive first

winter lake Mar 18, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Around $100

somber remnant Mar 18, 2020, 4:54 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/crucial-p1-1tb/p/N82E16820156199?Description=nvme crucial&cm_re=nvme_crucial-_-20-156-199-_-Product&quicklink=true

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crucial has lots of good ssds

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unless you want to spend a bit more or give up some storage

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https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-1tb/p/N82E16820250110?Description=nvme wd&cm_re=nvme_wd-_-20-250-110-_-Product&quicklink=true

winter lake Mar 18, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Aright thanks a lot!

shut furnace Mar 18, 2020, 6:25 PM

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I'd normally put games on a hdd but if it is external it is a bit of a mixed bag

torpid adder Mar 19, 2020, 2:35 AM

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buy an internal drive and get a USB drive enclosure for it

noble relic Mar 22, 2020, 3:41 AM

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So I've got a silly question, does NVMe really make a difference over SATA under general use/gaming conditions or is the increase in bandwidth only noticeable in heavier workloads?

keen urchin Mar 22, 2020, 3:48 AM

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any SSD is fast, youll mainly see a difference in productivity workloads

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but NVME drives are usually not much more expensive than 2.5

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if its like an extra $30-50, id do it

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sata 3 caps at 500mb/s

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NVME drives go to like 4000 or something crazy like that

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most nvme ssds are closer to around 2500-3000

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but just wanted to mention max capacity

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my intel 660p goes at about 1800mb/s, and its super fast. ive never complained about something opening slow

keen wave Mar 22, 2020, 3:24 PM

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is a EVO 970 plus good to put on a homeserver running 24/7 or is there anything better?

open gazelle Mar 22, 2020, 5:10 PM

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It's good, but also a waste of money

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Costs way to much for that use case

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Probs Mushkin Pilot or EX920, maybe some other drive depending on price

keen wave Mar 23, 2020, 12:14 AM

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costs the same

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both 139 in canada

heady raven Mar 23, 2020, 12:29 AM

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@keen wave https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/mNx2FT/hp-ex920-512gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-2yy46aaabc

HP EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

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no

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/z4jJ7P/mushkin-pilot-500gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mknssdpl500gb-d8

Mushkin PILOT 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/fRBhP6/mushkin-enhanced-pilot-e-500-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mknssdpe500gb-d8

Mushkin Enhanced Pilot-E 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

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none of the ones @open gazelle suggested are above 120cad

keen wave Mar 23, 2020, 12:31 AM

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mushkin is 115 but $19 shipping

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hp is $134 on newegg

heady raven Mar 23, 2020, 12:32 AM

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and?

open gazelle Mar 23, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Also sn750 is decently priced now
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/KTQG3C/western-digital-sn750-500-gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds500g3x0c

Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

heady raven Mar 23, 2020, 12:33 AM

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as in, what other hidden requirements are we supposed to guess actually matter @keen wave ?

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so far, we have learned that you are in canada

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that for reasons unknown, you only want newegg products

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what else?

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we cannot read your mind.

keen wave Mar 23, 2020, 12:34 AM

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sn750 seems good

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thanks

open gazelle Mar 23, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Seems to be by sale. Usually has been overpriced for the most part. Tho, you do need to specify your own requirements as Naed said

shut tundra Mar 23, 2020, 3:02 AM

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That speed hit on a QLC drive after you deplete the cache. drops from almost 500 MB/s to 80MB/s

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almost 80GB file transfer by the way

near rapids Mar 23, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Hey anybody know about enermax Liquid coolers ? I have one but it’s not going together to well

shut tundra Mar 23, 2020, 3:16 AM

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#old-cooling

untold valve Mar 23, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Can anyone here help me figure out why my Hard drive doesnt show up in my windows settings?

verbal rivet Mar 23, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Could be because a drive letter hasn't been assigned to it yet

untold valve Mar 23, 2020, 3:56 AM

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whats that?

verbal rivet Mar 23, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Like when you put a hard drive in your computer, windows will assign a drive letter for instance Windows is always installed on the C: Drive

untold valve Mar 23, 2020, 3:58 AM

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that makes sense, because thats what my SSD is on

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Local disc (c:)

verbal rivet Mar 23, 2020, 3:58 AM

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If you type in Disk Management in the windows search bar you should be able to see all drives even unassigned ones yet

untold valve Mar 23, 2020, 3:58 AM

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ssd is an nvme

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ok

verbal rivet Mar 23, 2020, 3:58 AM

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ahh gotcha

untold valve Mar 23, 2020, 3:59 AM

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so, i assigned it the letter D, and it brought me to a file with only "Recovery" in it

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i think its working now

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Yup, its there now! thanks man!

verbal rivet Mar 23, 2020, 4:00 AM

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Yes sir, you're welcome

untold valve Mar 23, 2020, 4:01 AM

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i couldnt find anything online about it, and its been troubling me for awhile

verbal rivet Mar 23, 2020, 4:02 AM

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It happens, happened to me with some flash drives but everything should be fine now

untold valve Mar 23, 2020, 4:02 AM

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awesome. thanks again

verbal rivet Mar 23, 2020, 4:02 AM

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No problem

rigid pike Mar 24, 2020, 3:27 PM

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does anyone have a recommended "cheap" m.2 ssd

heady raven Mar 24, 2020, 3:28 PM

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that depends on your budget

rigid pike Mar 24, 2020, 3:28 PM

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i wanna spend around $60

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so cheap lmao

minor sun Mar 24, 2020, 3:29 PM

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For 1tb or 500gb?

rigid pike Mar 24, 2020, 3:29 PM

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500

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if possible

heady raven Mar 24, 2020, 3:29 PM

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it should be

rigid pike Mar 24, 2020, 3:29 PM

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so whats the difference between sata and nvme ?

minor sun Mar 24, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Nvme is Practically slightly faster

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The speeds are much higher, but the usual person won't take advantage of it most of the time.

heady raven Mar 24, 2020, 3:31 PM

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its something you might have, but if you dont, nothing to worry about @rigid pike

rigid pike Mar 24, 2020, 3:31 PM

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is it worth getting ?

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https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-sn550-nvme-500gb/p/N82E16820250134?&quicklink=true

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worth?

minor sun Mar 24, 2020, 3:32 PM

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I think a WD blue should be okay, 65$ on newegg right now
https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-500gb/p/N82E16820250087

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idk about a sn550, sn750 was good, gotta look into it

heady raven Mar 24, 2020, 3:33 PM

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the sn550 is just fine [edit:one->fine]

minor sun Mar 24, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Yea sn550 looks good for your situation.

rigid pike Mar 24, 2020, 3:34 PM

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shouldent the 550 be better than the 500 or is that a bad way of thinking?

minor sun Mar 24, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Usually the case, but its a good idea to look into it, to see how much better, or where it is better, or if its better at all.

rigid pike Mar 24, 2020, 3:35 PM

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and my motherboard came with a heat spreader for a m.2 ssd is it recomended to use or no

heady raven Mar 24, 2020, 3:36 PM

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at your budget, the 550 is about as good as it gets

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it is recommended to use

rigid pike Mar 24, 2020, 3:36 PM

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will do then thank you very much naed and Mr1111

minor sun Mar 24, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Naed can take the credit xD

heady raven Mar 24, 2020, 3:37 PM

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check your mainboard m.2 is actually keyed for the right type @rigid pike

rigid pike Mar 24, 2020, 3:37 PM

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what does that even mean ?

sweet badge Mar 24, 2020, 3:37 PM

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the manual should help show/explain it pretty well

rigid pike Mar 24, 2020, 3:38 PM

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yall speaking Spanish

sweet badge Mar 24, 2020, 3:38 PM

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but basically
nvme uses m key
sta uses m+b key

rigid pike Mar 24, 2020, 3:38 PM

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this should be in the motherboard ?

heady raven Mar 24, 2020, 3:38 PM

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@rigid pike what mainboard model do you have?

shut furnace Mar 24, 2020, 3:38 PM

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nah this is japanese

rigid pike Mar 24, 2020, 3:38 PM

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msi b450 carbon pro gaming

sweet badge Mar 24, 2020, 3:39 PM

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heady raven Mar 24, 2020, 3:39 PM

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if you use the m.2 is just below the cpu, you will be fine @rigid pike

minor sun Mar 24, 2020, 3:39 PM

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if it's pro carbon ac, it's fine.

rigid pike Mar 24, 2020, 3:40 PM

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awesome learn something everyday

sweet badge Mar 24, 2020, 3:40 PM

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yeah what naed said

heady raven Mar 24, 2020, 3:40 PM

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best of luck with the new drive @rigid pike

rigid pike Mar 24, 2020, 3:41 PM

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thank you and it is the AC \

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thank you again you guys

heady raven Mar 24, 2020, 3:41 PM

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you are very welcome.

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 10:37 PM

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best storage drive that has 120 to 250 gb capacity

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prefer 250

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rn im looking at Team T-Force VULCAN 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

open gazelle Mar 24, 2020, 10:44 PM

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That's a good SSD. Whether it's good for the price is something I havent checked and too busy to do rn

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 10:45 PM

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its mainly for os, facebook games, and maybe work stuff

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its going tnto an hp 17-by0053od with the 16 gb optane taken out, and 4gb stock ram replaced with 16 gb ram

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 11:27 PM

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everything else is for desktop

grand belfry Mar 24, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Whats the best storage option for someone that will play about 4-5 games GTAV/FARCRY/COD/FORZA/PUBG for a good while, should I get a 1tb nvme and put my games and boot from it? Is it better to get lower end ssd and combo it with a hdd?

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 11:37 PM

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@grand belfry i have a 1tb samsung evo plus for my games and a wd hhd for os, though im told that should be swapped

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then again i use more then 10 games

heady raven Mar 24, 2020, 11:37 PM

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the os benefits a fair deal from being on a SSD

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 11:38 PM

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^see?

somber remnant Mar 24, 2020, 11:38 PM

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game benefits are minor

heady raven Mar 24, 2020, 11:38 PM

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but that does not mean you cannot have games on there too :)

somber remnant Mar 24, 2020, 11:38 PM

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like 1 or 2 second boot time at max

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but if thats important, go ahead

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also wd black nvmes are great

grand belfry Mar 24, 2020, 11:40 PM

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@somber remnant @heady raven

So would getting a 500gb - 1tb nvme be enough for os and games?

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 11:40 PM

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id say 500gb

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i have a 1tb for my main storage

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and its at 125 gb free

somber remnant Mar 24, 2020, 11:41 PM

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i have 1tb and its chilling for games

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 11:41 PM

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i also use more then Saiyan does

somber remnant Mar 24, 2020, 11:41 PM

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and yes 500gb is enough in the beginning

grand belfry Mar 24, 2020, 11:42 PM

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So... if I get 1, andater on down the road, is it hard to add an hdd of I need to?

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 11:42 PM

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not really

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im running ssd/hhd combo rn

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hardest is making sure you have the proper ssd slots

grand belfry Mar 24, 2020, 11:49 PM

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@red jay whats that depend on? Lol. Im still collecting parts so ill be REEEALLY askin questions when I start building.

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 11:49 PM

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your motherboard

somber remnant Mar 24, 2020, 11:50 PM

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+case

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 11:50 PM

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and case yeah

somber remnant Mar 24, 2020, 11:50 PM

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if u get an nvme

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 11:50 PM

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i like using pcie/m2 ssds

somber remnant Mar 24, 2020, 11:50 PM

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it'll be alot more easy to upgrade

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 11:50 PM

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the ssd i have is nvme

grand belfry Mar 24, 2020, 11:51 PM

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I have a Ryzen 3600, and a tomahawk max with memory kn its way... for the case im looking at either a meshify c or a p400

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 11:51 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zxw7YJ/samsung-970-evo-plus-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mz-v7s1t0bw

Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

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my ssd

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though, that might be a bit more then you need

somber remnant Mar 24, 2020, 11:52 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-1tb/p/N82E16820250110

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^ mine, its on sale rn and really good

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also ye the motherboard and the cases should allow for an additional hdd or ssd

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 11:54 PM

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wd is good and "cheap", samsung is decent but expensive, seagate in my opinion is a good middle ground, but back when i was on the market seagates nvme ssd wasnt out yet so i went samsung

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i got a 2 tb seagate sata sshd running my ps4

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was $80 from amazon

grand belfry Mar 24, 2020, 11:55 PM

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@red jay Bitwit says that seagate is actually a good price/performance ratio?

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 11:56 PM

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it is, havent really read any reviews or anything, just from my personal experience

grand belfry Mar 24, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Nice....
How much room would I have for games if I go 500gb and put os on it too?

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 11:57 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w6x9TW/seagate-firecuda-1tb-25-5400rpm-hybrid-internal-hard-drive-st1000lx015

Seagate FireCuda 1 TB 2.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive

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but IF you want 1 tb, the seagate firecuda sshd is an affordable option

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my hhd has 7.9 gb used for os

grand belfry Mar 24, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Ooh! I really thought OS took A LOT up

red jay Mar 24, 2020, 11:59 PM

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theres also the firecuda 520 nvme ssd, but thats $229.99 usd

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and os isnt really that much

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do you 500gb?

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i can dm some prices

grand belfry Mar 25, 2020, 12:01 AM

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I could fit os and about 4 games on 1 500gb? @red jay I would appreciate that

heady raven Mar 25, 2020, 12:04 AM

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@grand belfry if there is nothing blocking it, adding another ssd is a 2-3 minute job

grand belfry Mar 25, 2020, 12:13 AM

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@heady raven aah

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 1:37 AM

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whats the best m.2 ssd for reliability?

latent smelt Mar 26, 2020, 1:40 AM

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samsung

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 1:49 AM

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so 970 pro then?

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whats a fair price for a 512gb 970 pro?

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:03 AM

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$150-170 depending on if on sale or not

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:03 AM

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its a amazon return

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so its slightly used

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atleast thats what they told me

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:05 AM

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I wouldnt pay too much for it as a Evo+ is about as fast as anyone needs a drive to be lol

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:05 AM

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i have a 960 evo rn

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i guess i should say my laptop ssd runs on pcie gen 3x2

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I just wouldn't pay more than what you could get a new 970 evo+ for like $110-120

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edited

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:16 AM

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okey i thought 135 was a little high

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:20 AM

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yeah thats too high for used

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:21 AM

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i can get a 970 evo plus new for less then that

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but really what i am looking for is endurance over anything else

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whats the diffrence between the 960 pro and 970 pro?

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I bought most of my 970 pro 512GB 's for $100 new on ebay - one of the best OS drives for the money imo.

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:26 AM

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where?

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:26 AM

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970pro is much faster than the 960 pro

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:27 AM

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my laptop maxes out at 1650mb per second

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:27 AM

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I found a seller like this and made an offer for x for $100 each
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-970-PRO-512GB-NVMe-PCIe-M-2-2280-SSD-MZ-V7P512BW/142978577357 - YMMV , prices have gone up a bit lately

eBay

Samsung 970 PRO 512GB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7P512BW)

Item ID: S35621.

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:27 AM

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and they have a long warranty if worried about lifespan think its over 1200TB or 5 years

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:28 AM

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@plush crag thats the one i am looking at

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:28 AM

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970 pros (or any other higher end nvme drive) only really shine in heavy, mixed I/O

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:28 AM

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my laptop is a e7270

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Many cheaper drives can hit the same, or sometimes higher sustained, sequential read , and sometimes write speeds

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:29 AM

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so my laptop rns at pcie gen 3x2

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thats what magican says

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Honestly - that 500 GB WD black for $70 - or $450 when bundled with a 3900x is a pretty hot deal

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:31 AM

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i want something thats reliable and fast enough as the 960 evo

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:31 AM

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the pcie gen 3x2 really shouldnt hurt anything at all

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:32 AM

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yea it cuts the speed in half

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but thats it

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:32 AM

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its still like 16GB/s which is faster than any ssd I've seen

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instead of 32GB/s

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:32 AM

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like the 960 evo is 3200mb read

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:32 AM

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I have two 960 evo's - great drives, you really have to slam the drive with a ton of sustained write, or mixed i/o to justifiy the premium on the pro.
Personally - I value my time above all and the reliability/reputation that samsung nvme drives have for a relatively negligible premium sells it for me.

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:33 AM

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i am only getting 1650mb

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:33 AM

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3.2GB has no problem going into 16GB

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:34 AM

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but my 960 evo has 15tb total written to it

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Real world performance often strays from sticker specs. As much hate as userbenchmark gets - I think it's a useful tool for comparing ballpark specs on ssd's.

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:34 AM

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and its a 250gb one

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:35 AM

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haha samsung drivs are pretty hard to wear out - even if you all but try https://i.imgur.com/mdRCNXQ.png

Imgur

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:36 AM

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so what should i do?

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Well, you certainly can't go wrong with https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-pro-512gb/p/N82E16820147693

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:37 AM

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or try to get that one that u sent?

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:38 AM

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I'm personally comfortable hunting around on ebay and buying from sellers I expect to be reliable - but I think that's the buyer's preference - up to you.

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:38 AM

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and that seller that u sent me is he reliable to you?

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its either that one or a 960 pro thats been used for 10 mins

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or less then that

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:39 AM

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I haven't personally bought from that seller.

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:39 AM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-960-PRO-512GB-PCIe-NVMe-M-2-Internal-Solid-State-Drive-MZ-V6P512/174222688296?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D9011e699f4cc47fc871c90643aa4e1e8%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D9%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D142978577357%26itm%3D174222688296%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A02deca9f-6f0b-11ea-ac20-8a6a10028ccf|parentrq%3A14b56f871710a4d23a4a57efffffdb0c|iid%3A1

eBay

Samsung 960 PRO 512GB PCIe NVMe M.2 Internal Solid State Drive MZ-V...

Samsung 960 PRO 512GB PCIe NVMe M.2 Internal Solid State Drive MZ-V6P512. Condition is Used. Shipped with USPS.

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what about this one

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:40 AM

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I guess after doing some more research that pcei gen3x2 thing could be hindering the drive although I didnt think it would being it has such a large bandwidth

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:40 AM

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yea idk why dell did it like that

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i am sure they could fix it with a firmware update

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Ya, half the lanes will certainly half the bandwidth - but the "snappy" feeling you get from a drive like that is from various mixed/i/o or random 4k queue depth 1, single thread read speeds

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:41 AM

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yeah the performance doesnt equal the sum of the bandwidth as one would think

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Seller seems ok to me, but I can't guarantee anything ofc

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:41 AM

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yea but what would you pay for it?

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:42 AM

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To get a ballpark idea, I always search for sold+ completed listings https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=960+PRO+512GB&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

960 PRO 512GB | eBay

Find great deals on eBay for 960 PRO 512GB. Shop with confidence.

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:42 AM

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i was going to offer 70

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:43 AM

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No shame in lowballing - many sellers set an auto-reject limit, you have about 3 offers before it cuts you off.

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:43 AM

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but idk its either that or the 970 pro

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:43 AM

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If they get offended - it's their fault for not setting the auto reject price higher imo

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:43 AM

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basically it doesnt matter how wide the track is if the train is slow lol

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:44 AM

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he said the drives been used for less then 10 minites

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for the 960 pro

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 2:45 AM

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SMART data - stored on the drive's chips can confirm total bytes read/written - you could shoot him a message asking for a screenshot.

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Similar to the hwinfo screenshot I posted of my 960 evo

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:46 AM

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that seller that has the 970 pro said they couldnt show me becasue they dont have the equipment

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so a 3rd party mustive tested it

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:48 AM

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I would probably just get a new one especially since you said you were concerned with endurance

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and now that we know your speed is affected by the 3x2 having a fast drive doesnt really make as much sense

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:49 AM

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yea exactly

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i still think its so dumb that dell did that

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:50 AM

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maybe like a good priced western digital blue one

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the one with 500 in the name that doesnt stand for the capacity lol

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:51 AM

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it just sucks i cant get it to run at full speed

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:53 AM

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that is unfortunate

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:53 AM

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its just dell to

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every other company is 3x4

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 2:53 AM

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1500MB/s is still really fast

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 2:53 AM

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yea true

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so apparently my e7270 isnt high end lol

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even tho its a 7000 series ultrabook.........

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why would a 1k gaming laptop get full speed but a 2.4k not

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okey no samsung magicaian says 870mb read

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why is it soo slow rn?

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 3:23 AM

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gets faster as it heats up

plush crag Mar 26, 2020, 3:32 AM

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The nand memory likes being hot, it'll last longer, the controller, however, will throttle around ~80C or something.
That said - it's extremely hard to wear out any modern nvme or sata ssd before the end of it's useful life unless you really really try to.

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Especially a samsung, be it an evo, pro, or w/e. People have tried haha.

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 3:35 AM

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its reporting 40c

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but my system is doing nothing

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 3:35 AM

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yeah they dont have the best cooling solutions

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heats up gets fast throttles rinse and repeat

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 3:36 AM

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so its a heat issue then?

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 3:36 AM

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its not really an issue

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 3:37 AM

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the only thing i changed is that i updated magican

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 3:37 AM

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see as it ramps up it will get faster and faster until it gets overwhelmed with heat and then it will slow

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 3:37 AM

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it has not moved from 40c

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 3:38 AM

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which is fine for most use cases. I imagine it was hotter when you got the faster result. and if you kept running the test the heat would increase as would the speed in your tests until it hits the throttle limit

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 3:38 AM

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no around same temp

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 3:39 AM

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not sure that is a large gap for randomness

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 3:39 AM

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what would cause it to slow down like that?

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i tried restarting that did nothing

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i was getting almost double the speed before

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i just reran test now its at 1479 read and 1291 write

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 3:43 AM

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hmmm

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seems like it is throttling sometimes

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 3:44 AM

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could it be an issue with the ssd?

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 3:44 AM

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how full is it?

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 3:44 AM

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only using 59gb out of 250

outer bane Mar 26, 2020, 3:44 AM

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no issue there

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 3:45 AM

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okey

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its gone up to 43c now

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now this laptop has a cooling plate for the ssd but its not installed on mine

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@outer bane the heatsink for it is made out of copper and it has thermal pads

red jay Mar 26, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Which is better Seagate computing 120 SSD or team gx2 ssd

deep wagon Mar 26, 2020, 10:06 PM

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@red jay what formfacter?

red jay Mar 26, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Sata 6gb/s

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@deep wagon

deep wagon Mar 27, 2020, 5:27 AM

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whats the fair price for a 970 evo plus?

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i want a m.2 ssd that will last along time i have a 250gb 960 evo rn

open gazelle Mar 27, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Whether it be Samsung, HP, Silicon Power, Sabrent, Team, etc, they'll all last basically the same perceivable amount of time for a standard consumer

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Thus there is no reason to only buy from Samsung

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As they are usually very overpriced SSDs for standard consumers and should only be bought for professional workloads

deep wagon Mar 27, 2020, 6:13 AM

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@open gazelle what about the 7600 from intel?

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pro 7600p

deep wagon Mar 27, 2020, 6:46 AM

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my laptop only has 1 m.2 ssd slot

red jay Mar 27, 2020, 3:25 PM

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@deep wagon I got my 1tb 970 Evo plus for $299.99 from amazon

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But that was like last november

sweet badge Mar 27, 2020, 3:28 PM

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you can get a drive that is 99% as good as the Evo for like half the price

red jay Mar 27, 2020, 3:36 PM

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and more storage

open gazelle Mar 27, 2020, 6:32 PM

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@deep wagon I've never seen the 7600p at a price worth it for a standard customer

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So doubt it'd be good for you

deep wagon Mar 27, 2020, 8:18 PM

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so what drive do u recomend?

red jay Mar 27, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I bought a 240gb ssd and I know that I am going to need to upgrade soon, what size should I get

deep wagon Mar 27, 2020, 8:31 PM

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how much space do u need?

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@red jay

shut furnace Mar 27, 2020, 8:40 PM

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depends what you need it for but most people would get another 1-2tb

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ssd or hdd depends on what is going on it

red jay Mar 27, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Just games

deep wagon Mar 27, 2020, 8:49 PM

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what formfactor?

red jay Mar 27, 2020, 8:50 PM

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2.5”

shut furnace Mar 28, 2020, 12:11 AM

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is it worth upgrading from a hybrid drive to a ssd

keen urchin Mar 28, 2020, 12:11 AM

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yes

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"hybrid" drives just have large caches

shut furnace Mar 28, 2020, 12:14 AM

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SICK

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caps

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lol

tropic iron Mar 28, 2020, 1:19 AM

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So I don't know much about pcie vs sata ssd's, but I know that I need more space. I have an x570 mobo (PCIE gen 4), but I don't know what to look for. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

minor sun Mar 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Do you need extremely fast storage for any reason?

plush crag Mar 28, 2020, 1:49 AM

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How much space do you need? Do you plan to use the drive as a windows boot drive?

tropic iron Mar 28, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Here is what I have for storage: 1 tb ssd (860 evo), 4tb hdd, 3tb external hdd, and a 500 gb seagate ssd. I download a lot, play games, and edit videos/ photo's. Faster ssd's is on the verge of a MUST for me. @plush crag @minor sun

minor sun Mar 28, 2020, 2:02 AM

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I doubt you'll even find much use in the speeds offered by a pcie 4.0 drive, but I do think you can benefit from pcie 3.0 nvme drives

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Though the exact pcie 3.0 drive that would be good for you depends on prices and whatnot

plush crag Mar 28, 2020, 2:04 AM

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What's your budget? (roughly)

tropic iron Mar 28, 2020, 2:09 AM

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No more than $200

plush crag Mar 28, 2020, 2:17 AM

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For say, 1TB? Or 2TB?

minor sun Mar 28, 2020, 2:18 AM

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(if only for 1tb, theres this https://www.newegg.com/sabrent-rocket-nvme-4-0-1tb/p/1Z4-00H3-00016)

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but thats if you really really just want a bit more speed

tropic iron Mar 28, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Either way, its 4500 more speed than I got now, lol

plush crag Mar 28, 2020, 2:20 AM

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$200 is pretty steep for 1tb lol

minor sun Mar 28, 2020, 2:20 AM

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yea it really is

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but 2tb I think you can only get sata at 200$

plush crag Mar 28, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Ya, prices have fluctuated a bit lately - Intel 660p's at 2TB have sold for $185 in the past, I think Zack bought one at that price.

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Slower drive ofc, but sometimes the shortcomings of QLC + a 3rd rate NAND controller don't really present issues when your drive is 2TB lol.

tropic iron Mar 28, 2020, 2:22 AM

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$150 for 860 evo, 1tb ssd... and $200 for 1 tb PCIE 4 gen.

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Prices are weird.

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And that $150 is actually marked down from $200

plush crag Mar 28, 2020, 2:24 AM

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I'd definitely get the rocket over the 1TB 860 evo given current prices.

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fwiw I have two of those evo's lol

minor sun Mar 28, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Samsung stuff are expensive

tropic iron Mar 28, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Samsung seems to have the least amount of problems. Seagate is right behind them

minor sun Mar 28, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Seagate has some drives are iffy

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and I had to check it, but my corsair mp510 has a higher mean time between failure than the 970evo. While that doesn't mean too much, Samsung could be beaten on the reliability side.

tropic iron Mar 28, 2020, 2:31 AM

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The biggest reason not to buy pcie gen 4 is because of the bottle neck that it would have to applications and my GPU. I hav a 1080 gpu with a 3900x cpu. Thats already a bottleneck, lol. Again, I don't know much about the 4 gen pcie, but I am sure there is a hefty bottleneck

minor sun Mar 28, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Why would there be a bottleneck..?

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lemme find a pic of x570 chipset

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📎 iu.png

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on top of the 16 pcie 4.0 lanes dedicated the GPU, there are 12 lanes that you can use for a NVMe drive

tropic iron Mar 28, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Doesn't the pcie and gpu work hand in hand?

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or am I wrong?

plush crag Mar 28, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Not really 12, just 4 from the CPU directly then another 4 through the chipset link.

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The chipset will multiplex the 4 lanes of pcie 3.0 in order to feed anything connected to it with (up to) 4 lanes of pci 3.0 worth of bandwidth.

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In summary - x570 + a ryzen 3rd gen can provide 16 cpu lanes for a GPU , 4 lanes dedicated to NVME drive(s) + an additional 4 lanes that are split among all the chipset connected devices

minor sun Mar 28, 2020, 2:37 AM

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marketing is confusing..
Anyways, theres 24 total lanes iirc, 16 to graphics, 4 to chipset, 4 to NVMe drives. And the 4 chipset lanes allows for more SATA stuff, correct?

plush crag Mar 28, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Yes - the 4 chipset lanes can deliver up to 4 lanes of 3.0 speed at any one instant to any component connected to the chipset

minor sun Mar 28, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Alright thanks.

plush crag Mar 28, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Rather - all of the chipset devices share that 4 lane, 3.0 speed "pipe" that talks to the cpu

tropic iron Mar 28, 2020, 2:50 AM

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It allows more SATA than PCIE? @minor sun

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Or it just allows for more sata than before

minor sun Mar 28, 2020, 2:52 AM

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?

tropic iron Mar 28, 2020, 2:52 AM

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You said, "Anyways, theres 24 total lanes iirc, 16 to graphics, 4 to chipset, 4 to NVMe drives. And the 4 chipset lanes allows for more SATA stuff, correct?"

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Sata doesnt equal pcie, right?

plush crag Mar 28, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Anything sata will share the chipset's uplink to the cpu

tropic iron Mar 28, 2020, 2:57 AM

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And what will the pcie do?

open gazelle Mar 28, 2020, 6:54 AM

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chipset lanes is for SATA, networking, USB, PCIe (secondary x1/x4/x8/x16 lanes for GPU/whatever as well as NVMe), soundchip, etc

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So using chipset lanes you can get more SATA ports or more NVMe drives, etc

worthy glen Mar 29, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Whats a good storage system for under 250

minor sun Mar 29, 2020, 1:17 AM

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as in a standalone system only for storage? You can probably get away with just buying like a portable hard drive or portable ssd @worthy glen

worthy glen Mar 29, 2020, 1:17 AM

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No for like a pc

minor sun Mar 29, 2020, 1:17 AM

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as in which drives to get?

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what is the rest of your build?

worthy glen Mar 29, 2020, 1:46 AM

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3900x

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2080ti

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asus crosshair VIII hero

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and 1200w psu

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and 16gb ram

vestal reef Mar 29, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Wow a 1200w psu? Have you bought it yet?

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@worthy glen

open gazelle Mar 29, 2020, 1:57 AM

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What do you expect to do? Run three GPUs or smth?

vestal reef Mar 29, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Maybe 3 overclocked 2080tis

minor sun Mar 29, 2020, 2:14 AM

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ya know, with the kinda work loads expected for a 3900x, I was expecting at least 32gb or ram

worthy glen Mar 29, 2020, 2:47 AM

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@vestal reef i got it as a gift

open gazelle Mar 29, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Eh, three OCed 2080Ti is pushing it. But three stock 2080Ti + 3900x is feasible

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@worthy glen What specific PSU model?

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just cuz it's 80+ gold 1200w doesnt mean it is good

worthy glen Mar 29, 2020, 2:49 AM

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corsair hx 1200i

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platinum

open gazelle Mar 29, 2020, 2:49 AM

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alright, that's pretty good then

vestal reef Mar 29, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Lol

open gazelle Mar 29, 2020, 2:49 AM

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It does suck to see people get 1200w PSUs but bad ones

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just hoping you didnt get hooked into that

worthy glen Mar 29, 2020, 2:50 AM

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i got it as a gift so i know its overkill but i didnt pay for it and its good soo

vestal reef Mar 29, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Aight

grand belfry Mar 29, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Can you use 2 SSDs, like an M.2 and sata combo? Or does it have to be an ssd+hdd combo?

minor sun Mar 29, 2020, 9:35 PM

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You can do that afaik

nova iron Mar 29, 2020, 10:53 PM

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if you have the ports to do it, it probably works

copper dagger Mar 30, 2020, 3:01 AM

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Is there any way to move Windows to my SSD without using a drive cloner or reinstalling Windows?

minor sun Mar 30, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Not that I'm aware of

copper dagger Mar 30, 2020, 3:05 AM

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are there any software drive cloners that can selectively copy programs?

minor sun Mar 30, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Selectively copy programs? At that point, you might just want to reinstall everything

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AFAIK cloning can only clone whole partitions

copper dagger Mar 30, 2020, 3:06 AM

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yeah ill prob do it the hard way

minor sun Mar 30, 2020, 3:06 AM

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its not hard

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it also declutters things

plush crag Mar 30, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Big SSD specs spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit#gid=0

Google Docs

SSDs

Master List

Brand,Model,Interface,Form Factor,Capacities,Controller,Configuration,DRAM,HMB,NAND Brand,NAND Type,2D/3D NAND,Layers,R/W (Up to, in MB/s),Categories,Notes (*),Product Page,Product Page 2,Amazon Affiliate Link,Amazon Price (Coming Soon)
ADATA,S40G,x4 PCIe 3.0/NVMe...

minor sun Mar 30, 2020, 11:59 PM

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its already in pinned

plush crag Mar 31, 2020, 12:00 AM

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lol oh

minor sun Mar 31, 2020, 12:52 AM

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rip

vestal reef Mar 31, 2020, 12:52 AM

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rip

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Gotta use my nitro emotes before they end bongoTap

torpid adder Mar 31, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Bruh

deep wagon Apr 2, 2020, 1:30 AM

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okey so i have a 970 pro 1tb how tf did i use 443.09 gb in 1 hour and its going up help

outer bane Apr 2, 2020, 1:33 AM

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showing that on magician?

deep wagon Apr 2, 2020, 1:34 AM

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how do i chk that?

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its gone up .07

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crystal disk info says 442gb read 443 write

plush crag Apr 2, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Use windirstat to see what's using space.

deep wagon Apr 2, 2020, 1:39 AM

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i am only using 44gb of space

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of 1tb

outer bane Apr 2, 2020, 1:42 AM

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crystal disk is pretty accurate

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samsung magician is samsungs program

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was it a new drive?

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because it wont forget any previous usage

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and just because you only have 44gb stored on there doesnt mean its not constantly reading and writing over data but that seems like way too much to me as well

deep wagon Apr 2, 2020, 1:49 AM

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yea i msged samsung idk tho

outer bane Apr 2, 2020, 1:55 AM

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might download samsung magician and see what it says just to compare

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https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/magician/ downloads are at the bottom of the page

deep wagon Apr 2, 2020, 2:05 AM

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magician says 443gb written

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idk how

outer bane Apr 2, 2020, 2:10 AM

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LOL thats actually normal I am an idiot

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For some reason I was thinking terabytes not gigabytes

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having written and read 443g is quite normal especially if you installed windows or games on it

deep wagon Apr 2, 2020, 2:49 AM

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no games just windows and a few minor programs

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plus i ran some speed benchmarks

outer bane Apr 2, 2020, 2:56 AM

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yeah its normal no big deal

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if that was tb instead of gb like I thought at first that would be a big deal 😉

deep wagon Apr 2, 2020, 2:58 AM

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really?

outer bane Apr 2, 2020, 2:58 AM

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oh yeah

deep wagon Apr 2, 2020, 2:58 AM

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okey

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also my ssd heatsink isnt flat

outer bane Apr 2, 2020, 2:59 AM

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as long as the ssd is thats ok

deep wagon Apr 2, 2020, 3:16 AM

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from what i can tell it is

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it might be slightly bent

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i think thats the plate on the back

rain egret Apr 2, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Can anyone suggest any budget ssds

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Like 20-40

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Idc if it dram less

minor sun Apr 2, 2020, 3:42 AM

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you should care if it's dramless

deep wagon Apr 2, 2020, 3:48 AM

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what he said

minor sun Apr 2, 2020, 3:58 AM

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at that price idek

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if you can go 60 theres this for 480gb
https://www.amazon.com/Team-Group-480GB-Internal-T253TD480G3C101/dp/B075JMG7TM/

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storage prices are wack rn because virus

open gazelle Apr 2, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Or $41 for 240gb, $65 for the 500GB version
https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-Vulcan-Internal-SSD/dp/B07XD14L51/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords="team%2Bvulcan%2Bssd"&qid=1585811266&sr=8-1&th=1

azure dagger Apr 5, 2020, 6:46 AM

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anyone know how to remove a format to an HHD and recover the data on it?

misty cobalt Apr 5, 2020, 12:03 PM

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hey everyone

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M.2 (PCIe 2.0 x4)

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what is the FASTEST drive that I can use that supports this specificaiton of my motherboard?

minor sun Apr 5, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Pcie 2.0...

vestal reef Apr 5, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Lol

heady raven Apr 5, 2020, 8:44 PM

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@misty cobalt mainboard model?

red jay Apr 6, 2020, 1:24 PM

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i need some kind of help im looking for storage where i can put my games

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but are there HDDs that are good at those?

latent smelt Apr 6, 2020, 1:32 PM

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I personally like shhd

misty cobalt Apr 6, 2020, 2:25 PM

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@heady raven Mainboard model is https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/970-PRO-GAMING-AURA/

ASUS Canada

970 PRO GAMING/AURA | Motherboards | ASUS Canada

970 Pro Gaming/Aura is the world’s first AMD 970 chipset-based ATX gaming motherboard with official NVIDIA® SLI™ certification, fast Intel Gigabit LAN, awesome RGB lighting and next-gen connectivity.

red jay Apr 7, 2020, 7:27 AM

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how to get infinite storage

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take your sata 3 cable

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connect it to pc

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and connect the sata 3 cable in the air

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and done you have unlimited air storage

shut furnace Apr 7, 2020, 11:15 AM

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Cloud

vestal reef Apr 7, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Thats how Apple does it

bleak jolt Apr 7, 2020, 1:18 PM

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But that costs money

torpid adder Apr 7, 2020, 2:59 PM

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I bought a micro SD card for 47 cents NYEHE

shut furnace Apr 7, 2020, 3:00 PM

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more like that's how google does it

bleak jolt Apr 7, 2020, 3:02 PM

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And apple

shut furnace Apr 7, 2020, 3:02 PM

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ehh, i never use cloud on apple products, it's pretty useless

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on google you don't really have a choice whether to use cloud or not

torpid adder Apr 7, 2020, 3:04 PM

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iCloud is like throwing a potato at a tortoise and expecting it to plant it

vestal reef Apr 7, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Lmao

bleak jolt Apr 7, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Uhh ok

vestal reef Apr 7, 2020, 3:06 PM

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I like that analogy

bleak jolt Apr 7, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Kinda weird

vestal reef Apr 7, 2020, 3:07 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

torpid adder Apr 7, 2020, 3:07 PM

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It's entirely accurate

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It took like a month to transfer 3GB of stuff from my phone to the cloud

heady raven Apr 7, 2020, 3:12 PM

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that is for you to take up with your ISP

shut furnace Apr 7, 2020, 3:13 PM

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lol

torpid adder Apr 7, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Hehe

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That is true

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There is still no meaningful feedback when transferring

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Or at least, was

orchid patio Apr 8, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Any tips whether https://www.newegg.com/crucial-p1-1tb/p/N82E16820156199?Item=N82E16820156199
OR
https://www.newegg.com/p/0ZK-02XT-000X4?Item=9SIA12KA9A0990

Does it matter?

open gazelle Apr 8, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Same thing with different sticker

orchid patio Apr 8, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Thanks!

open gazelle Apr 8, 2020, 4:22 AM

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welcome

orchid patio Apr 9, 2020, 12:34 AM

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I wonder if someone could recommend me HDD? I am using SSD for my games and stuff, but I was thinking to get a regular one, for general storage - movies but maybe a game - if I would be running it through VM? In 200$ budget? Bigger the better I think - but I dont understand it much. 😄

upper quiver Apr 9, 2020, 12:41 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/seagate-barracuda-st2000dm008-2tb/p/N82E16822184773

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this is currently the gold standard for reliable, cheap storage

plush crag Apr 9, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Get a 10TB WD Red or Seagate Ironwolf

upper quiver Apr 9, 2020, 12:43 AM

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i mean, if he WANTS to drop $200 on storage

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but its unnecessary for "general storage"

orchid patio Apr 9, 2020, 12:47 AM

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The max is 200, but I think Id be alright with 2 of these.

narrow grove Apr 9, 2020, 12:54 AM

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gives a 200 budget: is handed more than expected $51 solution

deep cobalt Apr 9, 2020, 1:56 AM

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@upper quiver I mean uits not the most reliable

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its pretty eh for reliability

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but not a cause for concern

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Seagate hasnt FULLY recovered since the floods

upper quiver Apr 9, 2020, 3:28 AM

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reliable and cheap storage

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you can get reliable storage

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you can get cheap storage

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if you want both, this is it

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especially for generic, consumer use

grand belfry Apr 9, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Did I do this correctly? Does it NEED to be completely flat against the mobo, or should there be a little air space from when you push it down?

📎 JPEG_20200409_113837.jpg

upper quiver Apr 9, 2020, 4:50 PM

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yeah thats wrong lol

vestal reef Apr 9, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Oof that makes me uncomfortable

upper quiver Apr 9, 2020, 4:51 PM

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theres this thing in your motherboard box

vestal reef Apr 9, 2020, 4:51 PM

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I can feel the tension on the pcb lol

upper quiver Apr 9, 2020, 4:51 PM

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its called a "manual"

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its there for a reason

vestal reef Apr 9, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Lmao

grand belfry Apr 9, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Its my first build @upper quiver

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My bad

upper quiver Apr 9, 2020, 4:54 PM

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the manual will answer many question you didnt even realize you had

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also, it will help give you a better understanding of whats on the board itself

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its a good read, 10/10

minor sun Apr 9, 2020, 4:54 PM

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:p

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I dont think I read my manual

upper quiver Apr 9, 2020, 4:55 PM

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its good to read the first time

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most motherboards are the same

minor sun Apr 9, 2020, 4:55 PM

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but I need to figure out how to get some stuff from my other sata crappy ssd m.2 to this newer better m.2 ssd

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because I got no second m.2 screw

upper quiver Apr 9, 2020, 4:56 PM

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hold it with your finger

minor sun Apr 9, 2020, 4:56 PM

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might just do that

vestal reef Apr 9, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Tape

grand belfry Apr 9, 2020, 4:56 PM

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So my manual cam with little youtube scans, and I followed the video

minor sun Apr 9, 2020, 4:56 PM

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But sassy, do you know how the system would work if theres 2 windows systems on 2 different ssds?

upper quiver Apr 9, 2020, 4:56 PM

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i think you dont even need to hold it in place for it to work

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it will boot from the drive it has always boot from

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the bios is set to look for the boot loader on a specific drive

minor sun Apr 9, 2020, 4:57 PM

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interesting

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last time I tried to hold it down, it just didn't show up in bios or anything

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lights on the sata m.2 were on

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but nothing detected it

upper quiver Apr 9, 2020, 4:58 PM

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odd, is it in the sata combo slot?

minor sun Apr 9, 2020, 4:58 PM

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wdym

upper quiver Apr 9, 2020, 4:58 PM

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if there are sata devices plugged into the marked sata port, the m.2 auto disables

minor sun Apr 9, 2020, 4:58 PM

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yea that might be the issue

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not sure which slot my hdd is plugged into

grand belfry Apr 9, 2020, 5:04 PM

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This is the screw my mobo came with for the m.2 slot

📎 JPEG_20200409_120312.jpg

minor sun Apr 9, 2020, 5:05 PM

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yea

grand belfry Apr 9, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Im following the manual, I plug it into its slot at an angle and then screw it down and there is still the little slant.

upper quiver Apr 9, 2020, 5:07 PM

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screw it down with what?

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the standoff, or the screw?

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that in the picture is the standoff, it goes under the ssd

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the motherboard came with a tiny screw, in a tiny bag

grand belfry Apr 9, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Hmmm, i didnt see the tiny screw when I went through everything

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K, never mind, i found it

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Like this

📎 JPEG_20200409_121703.jpg

vestal reef Apr 9, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Looks better

grand belfry Apr 9, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Awesome thank you.

vestal reef Apr 9, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Np lol

grand belfry Apr 9, 2020, 5:26 PM

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You get flamed more in the PC world than you do in the Fighting world.

vestal reef Apr 9, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Lmao

grand belfry Apr 9, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Me:never done this before

Martial artists: here, I'll gladly show you the way.

PC guys: YOU NEED TO BE A PRO RIGHT OFF THE BAT, ASSHOLE!!

vestal reef Apr 9, 2020, 5:35 PM

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You're paying for the martial arts tho...
Also nobody said you had to be a pro he just said read the manual

grand belfry Apr 9, 2020, 5:41 PM

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@vestal reef not him. But , ive had some others 🤬🤬😤

vestal reef Apr 9, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Oh ya there's definitely people that'll be rude. Especially online cuz they're protected from you, the martial artist 😂

grand belfry Apr 9, 2020, 5:43 PM

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I also pickup heavy ass weights, a lot. 🤡

vestal reef Apr 9, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Get those GAINS

grand belfry Apr 9, 2020, 5:46 PM

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@vestal reef The tiny ass m.2 screw made me break a sweat. Like Sausage fingers trying to thread a needle 🤣🤣

vestal reef Apr 9, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Lmao. I once dropped a mobo screw down the cable management holes in my case and it took me like 15 mins to get it out

lean knoll Apr 9, 2020, 5:53 PM

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what sata 1TB ssd should I get?

torpid adder Apr 9, 2020, 5:54 PM

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WD Blue 3D NAND :)

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https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-1tb/p/N82E16820250088?&quicklink=true

grand belfry Apr 9, 2020, 5:57 PM

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@vestal reef 🤣🤣.......... Hulk smash!!(thats $600 worth of parts)... No hulk smash.

vestal reef Apr 9, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I dont get it lol