#old-monitors-and-tv

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olive token
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if it doesn't work well ... then no turn it off.

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if it helps you.. then yes, keep it on.

thin venture
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ok ty

covert swift
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@full moat Yea that's what i've seen as well 🙂

odd mantle
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Tfw Xbox One X doesn't support 1440p 120Hz for the LG 32GK650F-B

odd echo
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its using basically the same specs from 2013 lol

odd mantle
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Specs aren't the issue, it supports 120Hz refresh rates but most games never hit it. However, 120Hz also mostly eliminates frame tearing and does it without the input lag Freesync adds. The issue is that apparently the monitor doesn't properly support a 120Hz mode so it isn't compatible

hot zephyr
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Okay this is kinda offtopic but I was unsure where else to ask this.

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A few months ago, I obtained a high-end VGA CRT monitor from a friend (2002 or so).

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I couldn't find it anywhere online, and it uses a bizarre connector. With it I got a cable that goes from that connector to VGA.

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I'd like to display my GameCube, Wii, and SNES on the CRT, as the picture is really nice.

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However, the video cables for these consoles use three cables (two for audio, one for video iirc). What kind of adapter should I buy to get a good picture on the CRT?

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Do note my SNES is from Germany, so I guess it won't work on the CRT (?).

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For those curious, the CRT says "IBM" and "P70" on it.

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Ack what's with the horrible JPEG on the image lol I uploaded the high quality version.

full moat
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@hot zephyr got a pic of the input ?

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it is most likely s-video and something else as input

hot zephyr
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heheh okay

full moat
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if you show me a pic of the input, i might be able to help

hot zephyr
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Inputs:
-weird cable
-power.

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ouch that jpeg again

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I swear that pic is clear on my phone.

full moat
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unscrew that connector please

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then take a photo of where that connector was connected

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and then, take a photo of both ends of that cable please

full moat
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well darn, i have not seen those in close to 2 decades

hot zephyr
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Wow really?

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I believe this is from 2002.

full moat
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i think i saw it in a school setup i was doing maintenance on in .. 1998

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itt cannon are a weird company

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they do "WEIRD" connectors

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also, that is a industry d-sub connector with shielding

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the "gold" you are seeing is the shield

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@hot zephyr could you grab a photo of the other end of the cable?

hot zephyr
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ok 1 s

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busy for 30m

full moat
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( i really do have a bunch of weird info stuck in my noggin)

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if you post the picture, i will have a look when i get back from work tomorrow

hot zephyr
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aw rip I have to wait for tmrw then

full moat
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just remember to post pictures

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and with that, i am out for the night

hot zephyr
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@full moat if you're still there, here's the pic

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I think it's just a normal VGA connector?

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It does plug into my laptop and display well.

full moat
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aye, it is a normal connector on that end @hot zephyr

hot zephyr
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Aha.

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How would I wire up old consoles to it cost effectively with good picture?

full moat
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have a chat with ITT Cannon about it

full moat
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they know if there is a simple conversion from component (which is what i imagine you would want) to their dsub variant

hot zephyr
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uhh

slate hamlet
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Vga to composite adapter

full moat
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@slate hamlet if you scroll up a bit ....

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and look at the other end of that cable

hot zephyr
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Wouldn't it be easier to sorry L adapter composite to vga?

full moat
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weird words in that sentence :)

hot zephyr
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whoops

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swipe type glare

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Wouldn't it be easier to buy a composite to vga adapter?

full moat
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in theory, you can use a female + female dsub converter block to connect from what you currently have, to a "something something -> vga"

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there is however one big unknown (for me at least), i have no idea about the quality of the picture you end up with

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and in case you are not reading all the words

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i mean, i have NO IDEA at all about the quality of the signal that you end up with

hot zephyr
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I am reading everything you're saying.

full moat
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it is just to make certain that you dont see/read an implied promise about the quality @hot zephyr

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it was not meant to say/imply that you are not reading things :)

hot zephyr
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np lol

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So it would probably be better to ask itt cannon directly about the right cable?

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(no promise on video quality)

full moat
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yes/no ... ish

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something

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let me ask something else (it is related)

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the consoles you want to connect

hot zephyr
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I don't want to spend over $50 or so on this.

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Okay.

full moat
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output is component or?

hot zephyr
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I don't know much abt video connectors. It's three cables.

full moat
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component

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red, green, blue ?

hot zephyr
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I will go check.

full moat
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colours dont matter much, but 3 identical cables that kinda look like this

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a fair number of component cables (consumer side) are red/yellow/white

hot zephyr
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Ack for the life of me I can't find the box where I store the cables

full moat
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hehe :)

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no rush

hot zephyr
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Well I have to leave for school

full moat
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have fun, i will be around, off for the weekend :)

hot zephyr
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I think it is red yellow white.

full moat
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aye, so regular component cable

hot zephyr
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They all look like that.

full moat
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hm

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i will have a look around, enjoy school

hot zephyr
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I have a while before a class begins.

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Like 30 min.

full moat
olive token
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oooooo rgb cables

hot zephyr
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Hmm I don't like converter boxes.

olive token
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:gasp:

hot zephyr
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I have one that converts the signal from the GameCube directly to hdmi, and it is USB powered. After an hour or so it heats up and there is very loud static.

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Also, the video quality is pretty abismal, but I guess that is to be expected on an old console displayed on a modern monitor.

full moat
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yes/no

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it all depends on the quality of the box

hot zephyr
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aha

full moat
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hence why i was stressing the whole picture quality thing earlier

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at work i have a number of converter boxes that cost the better part of my monthly wage

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what i linked, is not remotely like any of those

hot zephyr
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wow

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I have no monthly wage.

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I have some money saved up from YT donations, and some electronics repairs I've done, but that's all.

full moat
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well, i probably also have some 20+ years on you :)

hot zephyr
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True true.

full moat
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but as a summary, what was linked above should work (still no promise about the quality of things)

hot zephyr
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Okay, thank you!

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I will order that box.

olive token
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\o/

hot zephyr
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Also, I picked up a German SNES during an exchange trip a few months ago. I doubt this but asking anyways: could the SNES display on the CRT?

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The cable outputs are exactly the same, I believe.

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But ofc the refresh rate on the European SNES is different.

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This CRT, according to the small amount of info I've found about it online, claims to support many different fps.

full moat
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crt's are fairly open in regards to what they are willing to display

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so (again), in theory it should work

hot zephyr
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Epic.

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Wait peck another question.

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A few months ago (after I got the monitor) I found out I am moving to France in half a year.

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If the CRT isn't damaged in shipping, will it still probably work?

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If not, I can get a voltage converter.

full moat
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aye, that should be simple enough

late hatch
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only about 8 hours late to this conversation, but the converter box that I use is a cheap one from amazon, but it had great reviews. I have not had any trouble with it. Newegg doesn't sell it so I don't feel horrible about posting the link.

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I have used it on my PC monitor and also used it on my 4k tv. My vizio wont detect a signal below 420p over composite or component and I can use this to play all my old consoles without any issues on that TV.

hot zephyr
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Hah nice I might pick that up. However for the CRT it needs to be a VGA cable.

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I think I'll be going with the converter box that Naed recommended.

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Tho I am open to any ideas.

hot zephyr
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Ordered the box. Should arrive on the 9th, I'll update then.

harsh anchor
full moat
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consider the space you need

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@humble crow have a gander at TFTcentral

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two of those side by side take up 1228mm (122,8cm)

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that is a LOT of deskspace

harsh anchor
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Lol I guess so :(

full moat
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and that is just the horizontal space

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consider that you need depth on the desk too

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unless you want to turn your neck all the time

humble crow
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Hmm?

full moat
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@humble crow for colour calibrated display info

humble crow
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Ohhh okay

outer magnet
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mighty tide
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@outer magnet 1080p ultrawide isnt good

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It stretches

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But, sceptre has one for 250

full moat
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"it stretches" <- that is a nonsensical statement @mighty tide

mighty tide
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Ok well, its more complicated

full moat
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care to provide some context on it?

whole sorrel
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Screen driver duplication causes aspect ratio screw ups

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When there's two generic pnps

full moat
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that is a driver issue, not a screen issue

whole sorrel
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It stretches

mighty tide
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Yeah

full moat
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also, i believe you mean PiP's?

mighty tide
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HeReS a ReDdIt PoSt

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But at 400$, just get 1440p tbh

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Depending on your specs @outer magnet

full moat
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you are referencing the top post @mighty tide ?

mighty tide
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Yes

full moat
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all of those are either application specific or driver specific

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it has nothing to do with the monitor itself.

whole sorrel
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Yes

full moat
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@whole sorrel and why would you ever run with the generic profile?

whole sorrel
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No reason to change it

full moat
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that is quite akin to not installing your gpu drivers

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because i have no problem, whatsoever, with the statement: ultrawides as a concept are wonky on the usecase side, because the software is just not aware enough of them.

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that is from my pov, very true

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but that is not the fault of the monitor.

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and a ultrawide IS lovely for movies

whole sorrel
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I had a computer at school that had two generic pnp drivers, and it couldn't do 16:9 ratios

full moat
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again, not the fault of the monitor, that is the admin being a silly derp

whole sorrel
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The one next to it was perfectly fine with 16:9 with one instance of generic pnp

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Yeah

mighty tide
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Im not saying the monitor is bad

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Just saying that it looks weird

whole sorrel
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People in previous classes kept stretching the monitor to fudge it into 16:9 and I couldn't leave it be, I always took it back to 4:3

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Well that's fair

mighty tide
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Plus, 34 inch? You'll probably see every pixel cmon

whole sorrel
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34 inch is the diagonal measurement right?

full moat
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"1080p ultrawide isnt good" <- that sure sounds like you are saying that (when there is no context given), do remember, the person you are answering/giving the answer to. Does not necessarily have the context you have in your head when typing the answer.

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it is @whole sorrel

whole sorrel
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Wouldn't it be normal for it to be a long measurement on an ultrawide?

mighty tide
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Yes

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But I am saying, that is very big

full moat
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the diagonal number goes a bit silly on Ultrawides

mighty tide
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Yeah

full moat
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however, "you will probably see every pixel" <- that is very much dependent on the person and the distance

whole sorrel
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I think there were some tiny 1024x768 monitors at school, and you very much could see every single pixel

full moat
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those are also ancient

whole sorrel
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Dell monitors from the early 00s

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Ye xd

full moat
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panel tech has evolved, just a tiny bit since then

whole sorrel
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Just a bit lol

mighty tide
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I have one thats 1440x900

whole sorrel
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I use a Xerox 1280x1024 from 2004

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75 Hz

mighty tide
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My friend got scammed by someone and bought a 2k laptop with an i5 7300hq

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1050ti

whole sorrel
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Yikes

mighty tide
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16gb ddr3

whole sorrel
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Reminds me of the laptop lineup at Costco

mighty tide
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Lol yeah

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I used to go to costco just for the amazing food deals

whole sorrel
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My mom hasn't renewed her membership in a couple years now

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Only had it for like a year

mighty tide
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Dont judge me

whole sorrel
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I went on the Letgo craigslist clone and browsed laptops, there were numerous HP Streams

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Unhappy poor people no doubt

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That includes me

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I am unhappy poor people

outer magnet
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I just don't think I'd get anywhere near 144hz with a 1440p and a 2070S

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Maybe upscale 1080 to 1440 somehow but I don't think it won't look good

hot zephyr
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hm so the adapter arrived

full moat
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considering you are here talking, it was not a bomb

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so that is good

hot zephyr
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yay!

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however it uh displays blue

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Turns out my gcn video cable has a S-Video out, so I'm trying it with that first.

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I've set it to use the S-Video input, but the display on the CRT is just blue.

full moat
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it has moved beyond what i can actually help with, sorry.

hot zephyr
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Pressing buttons on the box does display text, so it must be an issue with the S-Video cable?

full moat
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sounds logical yes

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but i dont know enough about the gamecubes output to give advice

hot zephyr
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I have a sneaking suspicion that the VGA Out and In's labels are swapped..

full moat
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shrugs

hot zephyr
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The VGA Out labelled VGA port is on the side with all the inputs.

full moat
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all i can do is wish you best of luck :)

hot zephyr
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I'll experiment lol

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thanks!

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I will update once it works. It will work.

limber gust
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What is the best display for a gaming pc

karmic shadow
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Hello. I'm looking for a montior with a gsync under a budget?

leaden forge
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What’s your budget ? What resolution, what refresh rate/response time ? GSYNC or GSYNC compatible ? What you’re asking for is pretty vague @karmic shadow

karmic shadow
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1920x1080 res, 1ms or 3ms. 60hz unless I changed my mind if I want a 120hz that's fine too. Both. I use 1070ti

leaden forge
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I would say 1070 Ti could "support" 144hz in some games

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G2g, lmk if u need more info @karmic shadow

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Use PCPP to pursue research and compare prices

solar marten
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Should I shoot for a 1440p or stick with 1080p?

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I have a 5700xt

covert solstice
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1440p

quartz sinew
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depends if you want high refresh or high-res

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@solar marten

karmic shadow
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thanks i will check it out

oak coyote
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why are there more FREESYNC monitor choices than there are GSYNC?

mighty tide
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@oak coyote its cheaper

oak coyote
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dont seem to be cheaper in price

mighty tide
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I mean g sync are more expensive

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But freesync is now g sync compatible

oak coyote
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ive heard from many that compatible is crap in most cases

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is this true

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i do see a lot that say adaptive sync on them

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anyone have concerns with adaptive sync or compatible sync?

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!rank

wild coralBOT
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XMARK6 SnakeBliskn, this command is disabled in this channel

slate surge
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is it weird for my monitor to look like its strobing bright and dark but very slightly?
its a 144hz freesync monitor if that has anything to do with it

olive token
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whats the res at

sage trail
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!rank

wild coralBOT
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XMARK6 SassyFish256 [2x2637v2/GTX1080], this command is disabled in this channel

sage trail
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!rank

wild coralBOT
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XMARK6 SassyFish256 [2x2637v2/GTX1080], this command is disabled in this channel

sage trail
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heh

hot zephyr
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oh peck it works :D

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Had to order a new GC cable, went for S-Video instead of AV bc I heard it is better.

full moat
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good to hear @hot zephyr

hot zephyr
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I.. forgot to consider sound though haha. Is this the correct channel to ask?

full moat
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close enough

hot zephyr
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Okay.

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I have some pretty nice speakers and a subwoofer. However, I don't have any audio equipment other than that.

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The speakers are attached to their own subwoofer (which I don't use), and all the sound for them comes in through on 3.5mm jack.

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The subwoofer is a Klipsch model with lots of inputs and controls that are beyond any of my understanding. When I got it (for free) it came with a lot of audio cables (not the 3.5mm cables, but bigger ones I've only seen at performances). They plug into the sub but not into my computer anywhere.

full moat
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because the sub contains the amplifier

hot zephyr
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So right now I use it by plugging a 3.5mm cable into one of the subwoofer's inputs (I can get a pic if needed), and the other into an airplane audio splitter, which then goes into my PC.

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The tweeters are plugged into the same audio splitter.

full moat
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that sounds weird

hot zephyr
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This is obvs not a very good setup, but it works alright. However I'd like to eventually upgrade to have some sort of central control for all of this.

full moat
hot zephyr
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Okay lol.

full moat
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:)

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no need to repost anything over there

amber pike
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Anyone recommend a cheap 2560X1440p with above 100hz monitor

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If you do please @ me

covert solstice
slender prawn
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I have one, can confirm, except mine is G-sync

shell hedge
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Went on sale

leaden forge
shell hedge
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No I put it in displays becuse I wanted opinions on it

leaden forge
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Opinions ?

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I’m sure that monitor is pretty solid, specs are at least.

shell hedge
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I wanted a 1440p 144hz ips monitor but "throws hands" cant find one that's under 500

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But ips doesn't support 32" so

leaden forge
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Is this one VA ? 32" is pretty large remember

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You might want something smaller in some situations

covert solstice
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27” being the sweet spot for 1440 is one of the most popular opinions on size, 32” is pretty big and has worse pixel density, px7 prime and 27GL850-B are both great 1440p 144hz ips monitors under $500

mystic agate
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LF> 27 in 1440p 144hz 1ms curved monitor recommendations budget is around 250-350ish USD thanks (will mostly use for gaming (FFXIV))

mighty tide
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@mystic agate not if you want IPS

shell hedge
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@leaden forge I'm doing programming and gaming I need something a bit bigger for game developing

neat cosmos
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Also means you can get a 34" for relatively cheap a QHD 21:9 monitors are usually no smaller then 32" and seem to average around the 34"

shell hedge
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Thanx but I also game so this is the best of both worlds

trail yew
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Does using freesync increase input lag?

mighty tide
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No

trail yew
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Nice

trail yew
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If I can get 120fps on 60hz what do you think I can get if I upgrade to 144hz

covert solstice
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144hz

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maybe 145hz if you're lucky

shell hedge
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@trail yew upgrading your monitor does not increase fps unless your lowing resolution if your getting 120fps on a 60hz the you gana get 120 on a 144

trail yew
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Ok. I thought It lowered frames not increased them, but good to know it doesnt

shell hedge
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👍

trail yew
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So heres the final question for me. Which monitor should I get. One has freesynce and can rotate vertically. One has g sync but doesnt rotate. (I have nvidia) is there much of a difference between g sync and freesync performance for nvidia? Heres the 2 options. Both are on a good sale right now.

shell hedge
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Depends if that freesync supports gsync

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I would go with the Amazon option

trail yew
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It is g sync compatible

shell hedge
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Wait

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Nope the amazon option has a ton panel no good

trail yew
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Ton panel?

shell hedge
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Find a va or ips panel

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Tn is just nasty

trail yew
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I'm pretty sure they're both tn...

shell hedge
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They are

leaden forge
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TN is bare able when gaming only...

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Imo

trail yew
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People in the reviews said they could tweak it in nvidia control panel and windows color calibration and it looked better

shell hedge
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I would go with a MAG321CQR or mag271cqr

trail yew
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They're more expensive😂

leaden forge
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What’s your budget again ?

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And what do you really need (specs wise) ?

shell hedge
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What are your pc specs @trail yew

trail yew
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300 was my budget and I wanted 1440p if possible and 144hz, and possible freesync or gsync... (I know its a lot)

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I have a gtx1060 6gb and I bought a ryzen 5 3600 that I'm upgrading too in a week or so

shell hedge
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Why are you getting a 1440p 144hz?

leaden forge
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1060 and 1440p ?

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Nah

shell hedge
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Go for 1080p 144hz with the 1060

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I have a 2070 super and it hits 1440p 144hz

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Your 1060 will not be able to hit 1440p 60fps or less

trail yew
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I would only use 1440p while photo editing, not gaming

shell hedge
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Ok humm

leaden forge
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Then why 144hz 1440p ?

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You could get 60hz 1440p

trail yew
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I wanted something that wouldnt be outdated in a year or too because I plan to upgrade my gpu by the end of the year too

shell hedge
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@trail yew to what?

leaden forge
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Over budget I think

trail yew
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144hz is for gaming.
1440p is for photo editing

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2070 or 2060 super

leaden forge
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You’ll need 2070 super I would say to hit constant 144hz

shell hedge
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Still not capable of 1440 at 144hz

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Even my 2070s has trouble

trail yew
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That monitor u sent me is a tn panel

shell hedge
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Nope va

trail yew
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Lemme check again

shell hedge
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Oh the link one

leaden forge
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If you’re really into photo editing IPS is also a really nice thing to have.

shell hedge
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I thought you ment the pic my bad

shell hedge
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Yes ips

trail yew
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Oh ya my bad

shell hedge
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Sorry thought u ment the photo I sent my bad

trail yew
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Ya miscommunication

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So the perfect monitor for me doesnt really exist😂

shell hedge
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The perfect monitor would be a 1440p 144hz ips 32" or 27"

trail yew
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27 in

shell hedge
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I prefer 32"

trail yew
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32 too big imo

shell hedge
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I sit far away from my monitor

trail yew
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i sit pretty close cuz i got a wall behind me

shell hedge
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Oh swns me so.e of your photos that u have edited

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Send*

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Some *

trail yew
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Give me 2 mins

shell hedge
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K

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@leaden forge what are u using

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Monitor wise

trail yew
shell hedge
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Nice ya if you want to photo editing get a 4k 60hz ips

trail yew
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4k😬

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i figured QHD would be the compromise so i could still game

shell hedge
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There not that expensive anymore

trail yew
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The main feature i wanted was the higher refresh rate

shell hedge
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Oh you wana game still smacks face ok ya just dont try to play games at 1440p

trail yew
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lmao

shell hedge
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Or just get to different monitors

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Or get a 2070s

trail yew
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ya that was the plan all along. I would game at 1080 144hz and edit at QHD 60hz

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Whats the main drawback of a TN panel

leaden forge
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I don’t have a monitor myself, I’m on a laptop 😅 @shell hedge

shell hedge
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Oh nice

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@trail yew color

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The color on a tn is very gray

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But ips and va look alot better

leaden forge
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For gaming it’s ‘fine’, for photo editing TN is terrible.

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In almost all situations

shell hedge
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That's why you should go with ips best of both worlds

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For editing and gameing

leaden forge
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More expensive though

shell hedge
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True but we do have black friday and cyber monday

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Never know

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XD

leaden forge
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Which are in 8 months more or less 😅

trail yew
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8 months... thats depressing

leaden forge
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In a long time lol I can’t count months

shell hedge
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What is count?

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XD

leaden forge
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?

shell hedge
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Anyway I would go with this MAG321CQR it's great for both

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And it's on sale for 340

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Just a bit more expensive but it's a great monitor

leaden forge
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I wouldn’t recommend a curved monitor for photo editing though

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So ignore the link I sent up

shell hedge
shell hedge
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I have heard good and bad th iij ng about it

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@trail yew they make it in 27" as well

leaden forge
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1080p remember

shell hedge
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That's just the link j have on me

leaden forge
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But i would say it’s a good monitor overall

shell hedge
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It's a biga boi

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Here is some scale for ya

shell hedge
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Nope 32

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Yeee

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Or go with this one

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Just wait for the price to fall down

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They always go on sale

trail yew
#

aight well thanks for all the help

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ill watch the prices

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now i know what to look for

shell hedge
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Yup

trail yew
#

have a good one

leaden forge
#

Let me repeat, a flat monitor might be preferable for photo editing.

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Keep that in mind.

trail yew
#

Ya I dont like the curved ones in general

shell hedge
#

Unless that boi is 32" then you gana want a curved boi

trail yew
#

Lol

shell hedge
#

At least a 18000 curved boi

trail yew
#

And sry but I forgot if we answered this. Freesync vs gsync with an nvidia gpu. Is there a difference in performance?

shell hedge
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Gsync for nvida freesync for amd

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And some monitors support freesync to gsync

solemn yarrow
#

Nvidia can use Freesync as well

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just have to be connected by display port for it

shell hedge
#

Rose's are red @solemn yarrow hands are blistered you might be fast but my hands are faster

solemn yarrow
#

faster at what?

shell hedge
#

Idk I failed to rhyme anyway

solemn yarrow
#

and make any sense

shell hedge
#

Shhhh

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Rose's are red he shows no remorse Santa is joining the terrorist force

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@solemn yarrow

late hatch
#

nvidias dead, intels deader, everyones pc's are getting redder

mighty tide
#

@late hatch nvidia is still relevant

late hatch
#

Never

mighty tide
#

Intel is pretty dead tho

late hatch
#

I refuse your reality

trail yew
#

Ya I know some freesync monitors support nvidia so what I'm asking is if I have two monitors, one is g sync and one is freesync, both running on an nvidia gpu, will the gsync monitor out perform the freesync monitor?

solemn yarrow
#

Nvidia is still alive and kicking a lot of butt

mighty tide
#

Yeah it is

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Intel is still kicking butt, but not very well

trail yew
#

Intel is kicking their own butt😂

mighty tide
#

AMDs third gen is destroying intels prices

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Lol true

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If 4th gen comes out in the next 2 years and intel doesnt change from 14nm....... its gonna be kinda bad

solemn yarrow
#

4000 series is this year though

mighty tide
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Laptop is.

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I mean desktop 4000

late hatch
#

desktop 4000 will probably come out this fall

trail yew
#

Do you know when the 4000 series launch is

late hatch
#

paper launch anyway

solemn yarrow
trail yew
#

Was it really 2017 when it started... wow it feels like it was last year imo

late hatch
#

ya, it was a few months after I built my intel system.

mighty tide
#

RIP

late hatch
#

that computer felt outdated fairly fast

trail yew
#

Just imagine how I feel with an i5 6400😂

late hatch
#

mine was a 6600k.

trail yew
#

I ordered a 3600 tho so I'll be fresh again in a week

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What do you have rn @late hatch

late hatch
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2700x

trail yew
#

Nice

solemn yarrow
#

Intel's 10th gen might be a beta thing with them cause having hyper threading for all the i core series is new to them so 11th gen they might go down to like 10nm

trail yew
#

Lol this definately shouldn't be in the displays channel

solemn yarrow
#

But i am still curious to see how well 10th gen will perform especially the i3's

shell hedge
#

@late hatch true but amds drivers tho🥺

late hatch
#

I don't have a 5700, but I have had less driver issues on my amd gpu's than on my nvidia ones

shell hedge
#

I have had no driver issues with either

late hatch
#

I have been 2 years waiting on nvidia to fix their screens flickering when gsync is enabled. they don't even seem to acknowledge its an issue.

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its only an issue on multi monitor setups so its probably low on their list of concerns

solemn yarrow
#

I have had more issues with AMD drivers than Nvidia

shell hedge
#

I dont have any gsync monitors nor multi

river blade
#

My only issue I’ve had with the 5700xt drivers is if I have a DisplayPort monitor and have msi afterburner open my screen will flicker. Not a huge deal but I like to use it to control my hours fan speeds

quartz sinew
#

anyone have recommendations for 1080p 144hz with G-sync?

solemn yarrow
#

You could get one with FreeSync if you are going to go with DP

quartz sinew
#

what?

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oh displayport

solemn yarrow
#

There was one i saw before you could overclock it to 155hz

quartz sinew
#

how exactly does one force g-sync on a freesync monitor

solemn yarrow
#

It only works through display port

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so no HDMI when using Nvidia with a FreeSync monitor

quartz sinew
#

i'm kinda looking for actual gsync-rated ones

solemn yarrow
quartz sinew
#

then again, am i gonna experience frame drops with g-sync, the same way as i do with vsync?

solemn yarrow
#

You might but then again you don't have to lower the cap by 3

quartz sinew
#

wym

solemn yarrow
#

He explains in the video that if you lower it down to 141hz instead cause usually with the screen tearing Gsync in the control panel would then disable but also depending on what you're using and what games cause there is a lot of games that you would be within the 100 to 120 frame mark

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I am trying to explain what he says in the video but not that well cause i read it back and was a little confused as well lol

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But ya this is why i posted the video as an option to see so you would what he does to get everything stable

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You could always look up the difference between Gsync and FreeSync but for saving money (cause i am always on a tight budget) i would go with the FreeSync monitor

quartz sinew
#

honestly i may just disregard it all together and go for a regular old 1080p 144hz

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i don't seem to get tearing often atm going 100 fps on 60hz,

solemn yarrow
#

@quartz sinew It is totally up to you just these monitors has more to offer than just prevention of screen tearing

quartz sinew
#

such as?

solemn yarrow
#

For each monitor you would have to see what else they would offer

leaden karma
#

May be a stupid question but I’m wondering after I finish my build

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Do I need 2 1440 p 144hz monitors to have dual screen one for chat etc and one for gaming?

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Or can I just buy one and use my slightly older 1080p 60hz for the chat and stuff?

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Like it won’t affect the other monitor correct?

whole sorrel
#

you don't need two 1440p 144hz monitors if you're only going to take advantage of the high refresh rate and higher resolution of one monitor

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it's pretty normal to have two very different monitors I think 😛

quartz sinew
#

you can connect both and use them separately, just don't think you'll be splitting a screen across them very well

leaden forge
#

Spec-wise, looks good to me.

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Espacially if you're gaming.

leaden karma
#

That looks like a great monitor

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I actually would love opinions on these 2 as well

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2/3

covert solstice
leaden karma
#

In that case I feel maybe the second vg27aq May be the best option

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I just want the fastest possible for 1440p as I do a lot of FPS and will be coming back into competitive after a very long time on console

covert solstice
#

if you want much better colors and a little better contrast, get the second
if you want like a ms advantage go with the first one, its a tn panel and should be a little faster but loses some color/picture advantages

leaden forge
#

TN is bare able, in my opinion, for most games.

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Also, I wonder if humans actually would notice a difference between 0.4 ms and 1ms.

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But as Nachos said, IPS is a really nice thing to have and you’ll benefit from great colors compared to a TN panel.

deep fern
#

Go TN only if you want like 240 or 360hz

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Other than that I would go ips

quartz sinew
#

what's the best kind of panel for 144

deep fern
#

Dollars or hz?

stone grove
#

I got 2x AOC G2590FX monitors a couple of weeks ago and love them so far. Found them for $150 each on sale. 144hz 1080p TN panels

karmic shadow
#

thats a pretty awesome deal for a gsync

visual pilot
#

IPS panel is "best"

deep fern
#

OLED is “best”

visual pilot
#

@deep fern theres 144hz oled panels now?

deep fern
#

Idk about 144 but there is 90

visual pilot
#

I thought the best is like that one oled panel samsung showed at ces with like 8k res 120hz

covert solstice
#

oled has burn in issues

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its gonna take a little bit before they are great monitors

deep fern
#

The burn in isn’t as bad as it once was, but yeah it is something to think about

hot zephyr
deep fern
#

75 is a nice step up from 60hz. 22” is fine for 1080p. Has a bit of a high response time tho at 5ms

visual pilot
#

should be an okay cheapo monitor

deep fern
#

It’s fine for its price

mighty tide
#

Yep

hot zephyr
#

Cool, thanks! 👌

leaden karma
#

Curious to know what everyone thinks is the best 144hz 1440p monitor

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Forget the options I gave earlier just wanna know what comes to everyone’s mind

astral ferry
#

the aoc 27"

visual pilot
#

MSI Mag271cqr comes to mind

mighty tide
#

The very best?

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Depends on budget😈

mighty tide
#

@trail mauve why do u need poe btw

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Does ur gpu not have displayport

trail mauve
#

Ok look, here’s the full story.

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I got this display from a company that has a product that requires the display be outside.

mighty tide
#

Solar powered xD?

trail mauve
#

No, it’s powered through the Ethernet.

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Through PoE.

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Literally how IP cameras work.

mighty tide
#

Ik

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So what do you need?

trail mauve
#

A way for it to work without relying on their crappy hardware.

unique estuary
#

he needs more ethernet ports and drivers

trail mauve
#

If you’re not going to help, please don’t post.

mighty tide
#

In my opinion, get a new monitor

trail mauve
#

In that case, I need a monitor that does power and data through one cable.

mighty tide
#

Why

trail mauve
#

There is no power where the display is.

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It is outside.

unique estuary
#

he needs a PoE display

mighty tide
#

Get an industrial extension cord

trail mauve
#

PoE works bexuase all I need is 1 Ethernet cable.

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That’s not legal.

mighty tide
#

Yes it is

trail mauve
#

Not here at least.

mighty tide
#

I have them in my garage

unique estuary
#

then move

mighty tide
#

What country

trail mauve
#

USA.

mighty tide
#

Same

unique estuary
#

Same

trail mauve
#

It’s part of the building code we have to abide by.

unique estuary
#

change the code for a better one then

sharp laurel
#

same

trail mauve
#

We can’t use any type of extension cord.

unique estuary
#

hm, try windows 7 then

trail mauve
#

Any other ideas?

unique estuary
#

windows 7

mighty tide
#

Idk abt this stuff

unique estuary
#

or you could emulate windows 7 inside of windows 10 and pass the ethernet port to it then have the windows 10 tunnel into the windows 7 emulation to pull the video feed. I'd invest in another gpu and a capter card rather than tunnel tho

trail mauve
#

Thanks for the help anyways.

unique estuary
#

np, glad to help

leaden forge
#

You sure you really need 240Hz right

jagged horizon
#

what 1440p displays do you guys recommend?

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i want something that's at least 144hz

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i mostly do gaming, and i play in a dark room

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also i dont want anything over $600

olive token
#

1440p 144hz @jagged horizon

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27in

odd echo
#

IPS looks amazing

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top of the budget tho

olive token
#

Curved or flat?

slender prawn
#

You can click the link and find out LOL

jagged horizon
#

oh yeah

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flat

#

that aorus monitor is $620 here

#

20 dollars aint much so it's not a big deal

mighty tide
#

That is overpriced tho

jagged horizon
#

most things here are overpriced

deep fern
#

the aorus is not overpriced

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worth

leaden karma
#

The aorus is good but has a few downsides too

#

I was looking at it too but honestly after all the research the Asus TUF 27aq is much better and nearly 150$ cheaper here

#

VG27AQ

#

Rtings rates the blacks a 3 on the aorus and almost 7 on the Asus, both IPS panels, Asus also gets a faster response time

jagged horizon
#

that tuf monitor is ~75 usd cheaper than the aorus one here

deep fern
#

could not be the same specs

#

there are a lot of hidden specs that they don't show on product page.

limpid lintel
#

If I plan on building something like a 2070 super with a i7 or a amd 3700x whats a good monitor to get the nost out of it for like $150 lol. Would I just want a 144 hz 1440p

astral ferry
#

yea

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but idk if there is such a monitor for $150 @limpid lintel

leaden forge
#

$150- is more 1080p 144hz price range 🥶

odd echo
#

@jagged horizon

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i found a deal on a monitor for you

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that has a $30 discount with promo code EMCDFGP26

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170hz, 1440p

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IPS

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oh and 1ms response time

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so compared to the aorus one i linked earlier, this one is better for cheaper (while the sale lasts) and then when the sale is done its just better for the same price

jagged horizon
#

@odd echo that monitor is not in stock here

odd echo
#

alright

jagged horizon
#

and amazon doesnt ship some electronics here for some reason

#

i'll look around i german stores

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maybe they have that there

jagged horizon
#

i'll probably wait because that monitor seems amazing

unique estuary
#

@jagged horizon have you looked at computer universe?

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I had to order something from there once and it seems to be the best kept European secret.

#

Their deals aren't phenomenal or anything, but most are competitive with the U.S. market

jagged horizon
#

its not in stock there either

unique estuary
#

Oh, rip

limpid lintel
#

Damn just barely missed a deal for the 32 inch lg 144 hz 1440p for only $300 😥

#

This ny best bet for a 144hz 1440p?

sage trail
#

Oh, no

#

A good one was just posted

slender prawn
#

I just saw it on /r/buildapcdeals LOL

limpid lintel
#

Ah damn thanks

sage trail
#

Ya it's good, IPS, 1ms rs

limpid lintel
#

Yeah i follow that reddit but was at work much thanks

stable trout
#

Does anyone know of a good 1080p 120hz or better for $150-200

copper hemlock
#

how important is response time in a monitor

#

I'm tryna find specific specs for a monitor in my price range but it's impossible

#

I want a 144hz 1ms 1440p monitor preferably curved for around 300

astral ferry
#

1-4ms should be fine

#

adaptive sync should be more priority than response time

copper hemlock
#

ok

#

imma be getting a rtx 2070super

covert solstice
#

thats also in cad so it should be cheaper in usd

copper hemlock
#

it is

astral ferry
#

^ i too have a 2070super should run a vast amount of games 2k 120fps+ min

copper hemlock
#

cool

#

what monitor?

astral ferry
#

i use a chinese one XD hkc

copper hemlock
#

oof

astral ferry
#

i would have bought the one i linked you

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but it was out of stock when i was looking

copper hemlock
#

I'm kinda thinking this

#

but I'd have to drive to microcenter which is an hour and half away lol

astral ferry
#

that one is excellent as well

#

unfortunately i am canadian which limits my options heavily

copper hemlock
#

but the AOC one is cheaper

#

I wonder which is better?

astral ferry
#

aoc is highly reviewed

copper hemlock
#

or if they pretty much the same

astral ferry
#

my chinese monitor is a bit expensive than both but i think its because they are using a samsung va panel

copper hemlock
#

oh ok

astral ferry
#

i think either monitor you choose

#

your basic reqs of 2k 144hz and good response time with adaptive sync will be met

copper hemlock
#

ok

#

I might as well go with AOC one

#

now to get 250 in my venmo lol since I have cashe😂

astral ferry
#

👍

shy venture
#

I has a few questions about my monitor setup and the purchase i need to make concerning cables.

mighty tide
#

@shy venture none most likely

#

Unless you need to go a long distance

shy venture
#

my current monitor setup uses a dvi cable, and a HDMI. i hate the HDMI. Never used a displayport cable and the monitor on the hdmi cable has a displayport, port. is it better than or less than a DVI? Because i could get a displayport cable with a DVI end. or just run that monitor on the DP to DP cable

#

sorry for the novel

unique estuary
#

What

mighty tide
#

The monitor will come with displayport

#

@shy venture

#

What monitor/s?

mighty tide
#

@shy venture

shy venture
#

the one in question is an ASUS VH242H the other is a much older Envision monitor. has DVI and VGA inputs.

proud terrace
#

Yo can someone help

olive token
#

can we?

proud terrace
#

@olive tokencan you

#

I need a nice monitor under $200

#

Idk how to approach it

wicked grotto
#

Anyone else have an recommendations for a monitor of similar specs at around the same price?

#

like $190 - $250ish

#

144hz, 1080p

wicked grotto
#

I'm honestly surprised I haven't seen this monitor in all my searching lol

#

probably scrolled passed it tbh

#

gonna keep it in mind. Ty!

visual pilot
#

Yw.

#

There are more of em, this is just one I know

stable trout
#

That looks good and just what I have been looking for

#

Might have to cop

quartz sinew
#

what's a good 1080p 144hz+ display with actual G-sync (not just freesync that i can jury-rig)

visual pilot
#

why?

#

it's not jury rigging if its G-sync compatible, confirmed by Nvidia

quartz sinew
#

well i'd rather be able to use g-sync from the get go rather than tinker

#

that and peace of mind

fallen aspen
#

there hsouldnt be any tinkering. freesync monitors work with gsync compatible gpus. just turn freesync on.

quartz sinew
#

hmm

fallen aspen
#

other than that i dont have any actual recomendations cause i dont buy super fancy monitors 😛

quartz sinew
#

okay i've done my research

#

i want actual g-sync

fallen aspen
quartz sinew
#

no like

#

actually gsync not just "gsync compatible"

fallen aspen
#

gsync compatible is actually gsync tho

#

gsync is a gpu thing

quartz sinew
#

eh

fallen aspen
#

wait i am wrong.

#

thats how it was explained to me sorry about that

mighty tide
#

@quartz sinew you can pay 100$ less for a freesync monitor

#

Which works with g sync

quartz sinew
#

correct me if i'm wrong but freesync-based gsync doesn't have the same benefits

mighty tide
#

No, but its barely noticeable

fallen aspen
#

i mean the idea behind gzync and free sync is that it stops screen tearing

quartz sinew
#

yeah

fallen aspen
#

both accomplish that pretty well.

#

i tried finding gsync ultimate but theyre like $1000+

quartz sinew
#

but there's also visual artifacts to be considered and some freesync monitors don't work below 48-40 fps

mighty tide
#

@quartz sinew well hopefully a 2070s wont get below that at 1080p :)

quartz sinew
#

well you'd be surprised what happens when you go into a massive grinder in MC

#

look mate, i said g-sync, i want g-sync, not freesync or compatible

mighty tide
#

Well im just saying that its overpriced

quartz sinew
#

ofc it is, it's nvidia

#

but i'm willing to pay the pretty penny

visual pilot
#

The pretty penny might be 400$ or so more than without

#

You sure you want to?

quartz sinew
#

i'm pretty sure

leaden forge
#

What panel and response time do you want @quartz sinew

#

Since you’re willing to pay a lot for a G Sync monitor you don’t want no crappy TN panels I would guess

#

Even though they are bare able

quartz sinew
#

i have no clue, that's why i'm asking

visual pilot
#

prob want ips

#

144hz+ iirc

leaden forge
#

Do a quick a search about the difference between TN, VA, and IPS panels, Google might explain better than me

visual pilot
#

nvm

#

no ips 1080p g sync monitors lol

leaden forge
#

And let me know. Because VA is expensive and IPS is much more expensive

visual pilot
leaden forge
#

Viewsonic Elite XG270

#

240hz though xD

visual pilot
#

?

#

I'm going off nvidia website

#

lemme see

solemn yarrow
#

It is a nice monitor but useless RGB since you will never see it

leaden forge
#

PCPP is usually accurate isn’t it

visual pilot
leaden forge
#

Ah oof

solemn yarrow
leaden forge
#

Whoops

visual pilot
leaden forge
#

Think the first one is this one

covert solstice
#

just get freesync there done

leaden forge
#

But it is 1440p

visual pilot
#

31.5 inch and 30 inch are not good for 1080p so

solemn yarrow
#

@visual pilot You have to remember that those monitors Nvidia only tested so you would have to also look on a manufacture site to see compatibility

visual pilot
#

so

#

I would definally say g-sync compatible is good enough

#

they only want full G-sync

solemn yarrow
#

Meh ill still go for a FreeSync monitor for myself for my 1660

#

almost the same performance for less money

visual pilot
#

exactly ecks

#

but they only want full g sync

maiden wedge
#

get a samsung 240hz1080 or 144hz1440

quartz sinew
#

what samsung 240

maiden wedge
#

240hz

#

or 1440p

full moat
#

@maiden wedge i think the question was more along the lines of "what model of..."

quartz sinew
#

yeah

visual pilot
#

also

G-Sync compatible is good enough

quartz sinew
#

i'll go with full G-sync

visual pilot
#

1080p?

quartz sinew
#

yes

visual pilot
#

if you're gonna pay that much why not 1440p

full moat
#

@visual pilot it is their choice :)

quartz sinew
#

because i don't want to play at 1440p

full moat
#

if you want to change their mind, start throwing links/review/facts etc

visual pilot
#

theres 3 full g-sync monitors thats not TN panel

full moat
#

then you can have a debate about it. IF you want.

visual pilot
#

according to nvidia

quartz sinew
#

i wanna play at 1080p and high refresh rates without tearing, hence why i'm willing to invest in g-sync

#

and i already found a display

full moat
#

but until then, it is opinion vs opinion

unique estuary
#

or is it

quartz sinew
#

yes

maiden wedge
#

found this 240hz 1080p va panel for only 270ÂŁ

visual pilot
#

anna they REALLY want g-sync

quartz sinew
#

there are definitely more, i found like 10 VA panels alone

#

and that's just in 24"

visual pilot
#

they're probably g-sync compatible, the exact thing you didn't want us to find for you

maiden wedge
#

the good thing about Samsung is that their g sync premiums are small

full moat
#

@quartz sinew (without looking it up) you have checked the manufacturer websites for that right?

visual pilot
#

I'm sourcing the list from Nvidia

quartz sinew
#

considering i searched g-sync and didn't select compatible

visual pilot
#

You want to trust nvidia or some marketing team

full moat
#

@quartz sinew just a FYI, a sellers website can be "oops! our mistake on that typo" and be excused. a manufacturers website? not so much. [edit:a]

visual pilot
#

heck, give me the model of some of those monitors, I'll find them on Nvidia's list, and they're likely just g-sync compatible

quartz sinew
#

i checked

visual pilot
#

one example please

full moat
#

@quartz sinew also, please note, i am not trying to change your mind :)

visual pilot
#

I'm just tired and slightly grumpy

quartz sinew
#

i know naed

#

i'm exhausted and getting progressively ticked at you Mr1111, so how's about we stop debating and you let someone else help

unique estuary
#

I agree

visual pilot
#

I'll just leave you with Nvidia's website then

quartz sinew
#

also, the monitor i looked at was on the manufacturer site before i found the amazon link

visual pilot
#

just check before you buy

unique estuary
#

Just get something that has fine everything on a super sale

#

then you'll get your utility whether you love it or if its just good enough

#

and you can always resell

quartz sinew
#

yeah

full moat
#

i mentioned what i did @quartz sinew because e-shops have no real downside to "oops!" moments like i described. So make very certain.

unique estuary
#

unless you're maxing out your rig/setup, theres no reason to get caught up on all the particulars

#

obviously sort out the major ones

#

but it usually ends up coming down to performance/$

quartz sinew
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i'm just making an investment so that i don't have issues

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i've got a pc that can handle it, now i just want to buy a monitor with confidence

full moat
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reviews, reviews, and more reviews is your diet for a while going forward @quartz sinew

quartz sinew
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yeah

leaden forge
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What specs would make a monitor better quality for the human eye and hurt it less ? (Blue Lights, panel type.... many other factors ......) I don’t mind spending more on a monitor if it ruins less my eyesight and just my eyes in general

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It could be better colors (IPS), lower blue lights I really don’t know...

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Those are extremely random examples

visual pilot
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There might be some monitors with built in blue light reduction

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but that generally is not a spec you commonly see

trail yew
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Theres a built in blue light filter in windows that I often use. It does a decent job

visual pilot
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IPS Panels may be good (for blue light reduction) , but I don't really know

mighty tide
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@leaden forge what res?

leaden forge
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Alright, thanks @visual pilot @trail yew

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@mighty tide 1080p

mighty tide
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144hz?

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@leaden forge

leaden forge
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That’s right. All I really need is 144Hz, and < 3ms response time

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Free/Adaptive Sync would be a + too @mighty tide

visual pilot
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freesync is pretty common

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and with that, g-sync compatable

leaden forge
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I just wanted to know if anything could make a display better for the human eye to look at

visual pilot
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I think thats mostly software, with a good monitor

leaden forge
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Like a built in flashlight reductor, blue light filter etc etc

mighty tide
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Hm nevermind

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Link broke

visual pilot
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lol

leaden forge
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Thanks for the recommendation, but would this one be better than others for eyes ?

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That’s my main focus

mighty tide
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Is there a specific reason?

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It has a lot of tuning using its little bottom buttons

visual pilot
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I dont think you can compare monitors for just being better for your eyes

mighty tide
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Yeah

leaden forge
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I have personal reasons

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medical if that’s clearer

visual pilot
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There are blue light reducing glasses

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I might actually get one of them

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my eyesight isn't doing too good

leaden forge
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That could be good

mighty tide
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Yeah

visual pilot
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Link me when you find it, I cant find it rn

mighty tide
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They are labeled "gaming glasses" sometimes, but are dumb

visual pilot
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nah

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There was an ad that seemed good

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for blue light reducing glasses

leaden forge
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On my local PCPP, I can see there is a research filter for monitors : Flicker-Free

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I that really a genuine thing

mighty tide
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Wont effect u

visual pilot
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nah better than that

mighty tide
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Thats just more reliable, means it wont be accidently flashing rarely

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Monitors barely flicker tho

visual pilot
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I also need prescription glasses or whatever you call them

mighty tide
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RIP

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Go to costco they have like 10$ ones

visual pilot
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meh

leaden forge
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What about Glare Protection ?

visual pilot
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I think I'm like 2x in one eye 3x in the other or smth like that

mighty tide
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@leaden forge thats for sun

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So it wont be hard to see in light

leaden forge
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It exists as a filter on my PCPP

mighty tide
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I know

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It is not for eyes, it is so if there are lights in your room then it will not be reflected onto screen

leaden forge
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Got it

mighty tide
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M.a.r.k.e.t.i.n.g

leaden forge
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Marketing, but could be real too

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There could be a potential difference

mighty tide
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If you have curtains or not super bright lights, your fine

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There isnt

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I have used them

leaden forge
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Okay

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Last is built in blue Light filter

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Could be beneficial

mighty tide
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No just use software

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It works better and doesnt cost a ton more

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Most of that stuff is for workstation monitora

leaden forge
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Do you know of a good software ? Free is preferable

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That would be more effective than built in

mighty tide
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The monitor comes with the ability I think

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I am not at my house currently, but I have it and will check in its settings

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In like 45 minutes

leaden forge
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Isn’t that considered built in though ? If it’s in monitor settings

mighty tide
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......... sorta?

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Maybe it cant be turned off

leaden forge
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What software were you talking about earlier though ?

mighty tide
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Windows has it I believe

leaden forge
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Alright, that should be fine

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One last question I need your opinion on, I was told there really isn’t any difference between 1 ms and 4 ms response time when playing fps games, will I be fine with 4ms ?

mighty tide
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Yes, but the linked monitor has 1 I believe

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It dies