#old-monitors-and-tv
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YW....gotta run now... good luck with your search
@toxic bluff thanks have a good day
whoooa dont get a 1440p with a 1660ti
it will struggle to hit 40fps in most modern games at 1440p
Yo I’m new to building pc and I got a quick question. If I have an intel build and I’m installing an amd FreeSync monitor would there be any problems?
your cpu has nothing to do with how your monitor displays graphics @maiden wedge
the only conflict with a build and a monitor that you will ever face is if you try to use an amd graphics card with a g-sync monitor
Ah ok because I tried plugging in my monitor a few times and it kept giving me “no signal”
Do you what can cause that issue?
do you not have a discrete graphics card?
Wdym by that?
some Intel cpus do not have integrated graphics and even if you have one that does, you will have the worst gaming experience you will ever experience
this is a cpu
you got something like this on your computer?
drivers make sure they are updated
But no signal
Yea no signal
check your actual physical connections
They cant check
if your graphics card is not properly inserted into the slot
The F series is the only one's without iGPU's
Oh yea check like psu connectors n stuff
My psu to my motherboard gpu and cpu seems to fine
Power button on the back turned on?
Yup
does your computer turn on
can you perhaps take a picture of your computer?
I’m not currently home atm
Was your HDMI connected to your GPU
either you have a faulty connection somehwere or faulty hardware
Also you never really go for what is suggested for watt on a PSU for your system you always want to go a little higher
^
Yea
750
Check the cable
yea thats goodenough
750 is more than enough
i pretty much have the same stuff as you
Everything was linked up fine
Make sure your cable isnt doa by testing it with like a laptop or smth
just different cpu
Bc I had a dead DP cable and hdmi that worked
all brand new parts?
Alright
maybe when u get back home u can take a pic and then try again in here to see if someone can spot something in your build. Anyways hope it works out and you get your system up and running
If I was in the market for a curved ultra wide monitor and was willing to spend ~$500. what would you suggest?
You could just put the requirement you want into like the pcpartpicker thingy and look at em
I could go do that in a bit
The thing is, I've alwyas gone cheap on monitor. I want to get something nice this time. So I really don't know what to look for.
I can try to help once I finish dinner, I dont know too much but I might be able to give you some guidelines
Thank you
Oh yea if you see someone who seems like they know what they're doing, trust them, I ain't an expert on monitors
ultra wide is such a vague statement. There are 3 important questions you need to answer before you begin to make query for "ultra wide" monitors. Q1: what resolution?Q2: preferred refresh rate? Q3: Adaptive sync technology? if yes which? @jade anvil
Usually ultrawides will be 3440x1440 21:9 res
maybe he wants 4k
How would you
idek
Like G-sync ultrawide is gonna cost you a pretty penny, and 500$ isn't going to be enough
I'm assuming he wants as much bang for the buck as possible since looking at 3440x1440 they're pretty damn expensive
taking a quick look, this seems to be a pretty good option
https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Zero-G-Curved-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B07SH173T9/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Monoprice+Zero-G&qid=1578956561&s=electronics&sr=1-1
410$, 100hz, 4ms responce time
company a lil iffy but
the other one I looked at is this
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Non-Glare-UltraWide-21-Resolution/dp/B07G5FCR6X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=MSI+Non-Glare+Ultrawide+21%3A+9+Screen+8ms+3440+X+1440+100Hz+Freesync+3K+Resolution+34"+Curved+Gaming+Monitor+(Optix+MAG341CQ)&qid=1578956882&sr=8-1
but this one is 8ms responce time, which makes it meh
some times sacrifices must be made for these high end monitors
so you think I could recogmend the monoprice monitor?
I have no experience with that company but reviews seem nice
@jade anvil We're gonna suggest this monitor to ya
https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Zero-G-Curved-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B07SH173T9/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Monoprice+Zero-G&qid=1578956561&s=electronics&sr=1-1
Can someone help me. how would I make my optiplex 3010 miracst ready? just a wifi card? if so how do I know what wifi card I need to put in my optiplex 3010?
@Mr111 thank you, just got back from dinner. I was wanting to get 120 hz, 1440p.
For some reason pcpartpicker lists that monitor at 120 hz but it says 100 hz on Amazon. Weird.
Alright,
you missed a 1 in my name thats why it didnt ping me btw
@jade anvil The other 120hz 1440p ultrawide monitors are all like 700$ or above so I think 100hz might be the best you can get at that price point
BUT, if you didn't go ultrawide, you can get 144hz 1440p monitors if you really need refresh rate
Yeah, I think you are right. I'm going to have to settle for 100hz. Still better than the 3x 1080 60hz monitors I'm using now.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HZ499J4?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 This is the other panel I've been looking at.
Impressive 1ms 144Hz+ IPS Gaming Monitors from LG
Apart from the OLED R rolling TV display, LG was showing off the Ultragear 27" 27GN950, the 34" 21:9 34GN850, and the 38" curved 3840x1600 38GN950. All are 1ms response time nano IPS with 98% DCI-P3 color. Also shown: the Ultr...
i feel like all the good value monitors have run outta stock lel
1080p ultrawide curved, 200Hz with DP
that's a good monitor PlusNomad
great for the price (since i'm assuming VAT is included and all that)
wait 75Hz?
for 75Hz it's a bit much
hmm i'm looking at amazon UK
can't find anything better
get 144hz my guyy
but amazon UK has very little to offer him for 144Hz
At least within my budget that is
I saw a 1440p 100hz earlier but that was USA
honestly throughout my time amazon just tends to be the most costly for anything computer related in my searches. The only advantage i find with amazon is conveniece and shipping
best 1440p 144hz monitor?
Someone posted one that was 400$ earlier
looking for 1ms response too
Can anyone vouch for the LG 27gl83a-b? Looking for a good 1440p IPS monitor for gaming and came across that one
400 is a lot more than my budget, 1440p 75hz or 1080p 144 is as good as its gonna get
16k 240hz -1ms response (it does the motion before i even do it with my hand)
i need one please
i can pay however much you require
1080p 60hz, take it or leave it
response time is highly over rated and not a good metric to measure a monitors performance
LOL and thats just impossible
You think that
@turbid star I will give you that. Some sort of quantum mechanics could possibly allow such a thing in the distant future
We already performed teleportation basicslly
you're just mad you dont have a negative response time monitor
Yeah flex on those haters
LOL
Lol only 16k 240hz? I want 16k 360hz 1ms response time IPS 100% color accuracy 16 bit color HDR G sync super ultrawide 32:10 42” VESA mount compatible and pre installed RGB backlighting
again like i dont get the craze for ultra wide monitors specifically in games like do people enjoy gaming like this ?
no I also hate them. Ultra wide screen monitors and curved monitors should all be burned with 🔥
i have a curved monitor and its not bothering me at all. Its not very curved tho
I just bothers me Its like I can tell the image is curved and it messes with me
same reason I dont like the pimax vr sets the screen is curved and you can tell
Reason: Bad word usage
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lol
woops
anyways im eh about curved but ultra wide is a big no. Just get two monitors mane
Would you want a curved TV?
I am just curious I dont see the appeal but they do make them
for me having my image curved bugs me especially for videos
no i dont want curved TV because im not the only person watching on it. For monitors its ok because its usually one person using it but for TV its a big NO
thats good I at least hope curved tvs go away
in VR i can have a curved or flat display and i can make it as large as i want :D
oculus dash does it really well
I mentioned this earlier but even the curved screen in the pimax bugs me
love my odyssey+ and valve index though
rip
ik this aint the right chat for it but top 5 vr headsets?
im looking to break into vr in the future for half-life UWU
is that just pure performance or does that consider price as well?
and the quest is its own seperate thing
well the rift s controllers are about 1000x better than the O+
and although the O+ has a better screen its not 1000x better so maybe but the screen makes a big difference to me
If I want to play a new cool game though I grab the index
Rift S is 2560x1440
O+ is 2880x1600
its hard to make a top 5 list because each headset is a different price and catered towards different use cases
O+ also uses black magic to make all the space between pixels go away almost 0 screen door effect for me
I was really hoping that samsung would get out the game and start selling displays to valve or oculus
with that film on them
the odyssey+ is a great headset, but Windows Mixed Reality as a whole doesnt get any attention from microsoft or the developers
no it seems like we get better support from oculus and vive making sure games work on it then microsoft
yeah for sure
and its partially up to the deevelopers too
windows mixed reality headsets only have 2 cameras for tracking, and they use LEDs
compared to the oculus rift s, which has infrared lights and 5 cameras
yep
here ill make a quick comparison
Probably should also mention for anyone considering an O+ you also have to modify it to make it comfortable to wear for more than 20 minutes LOL
yeah... i had a asus wmr headset and it was super uncomfortable
it literally clamps your head to stay on
after about an hour the back of my head was numb
the o+ is better than that asus wmr headset tho
lol yeah I made my own over the top strap added some memory foam speaker cushions I found on amazon and the Vrcover cover
so is the index overpriced or it matches it?
O+ pros: better screen res and technology, better audio
O+ cons: limited by WMR software, 2 cameras using LED tracking, controllers are clunky and piss through battery
rift s pros: better support, a lot better tracking, better software, more attention from developers, easier set up, much better controllers with more buttons and capacitive sensors
cons: slightly worse screen res, a lot worse audio
I think its actually completely worth it for the index its the full package
heres this: valve index is $1000
its not overpriced, but its still expensive
heck
the screen goes up to 240hz
the vive pro was the worst offender of being overpriced to the point of not being worth it imo
alright time to save up for the index 
good luck
also a beefy gpu will really improve your experience
my friend got the index + 3 full body trackers and i am JEALOUS
2070S will be fine
also yeah 2070s will kill it
although I do like my supersampling at 275% and it wont do that
imma head off to bed, night
gnite my guy great discussion
when you get one first thing you should get for free is the nvidia funhouse and good night
another thing that is pretty hype along with index and half-life alyx is the source engine 2
It should be here around the same time as Avatar 2......
2020 gonna be great 
Thoughts on a curved vs flat panel for 1080p or 1440p gaming at 144hz?
I like flat much better if you look up we discussed it
How many actually game in 1440p? I'm currently running this monitor.
And wonder if it's worth it to upgrade.
Like most basically all modern games can run in 1440p
Its not an uncommon resolution like ultrawide
Its still 16:9
I'm just curious if the added cost of going 1440p is worth it?
The only other resolution I've been exposed to is 4k, but that's on my TV.
If you want stuffs to look nicer
Do it
How worth it, depends really on how much you want better looking stuff
Is it night and day like the jump from 1080p to 4k was though?
Should be similar
Because 1440p is 2k resolution
(Same way 4k is technically like 3440p)
I know the further away you are from the image, the more the difference in sharpness is.
Thinking about this montior it's more money but it is a ips panel
@astral ferry other than the 5ms time it sounds like a decent montior
Vs this monitor
I like to game in 4k
also I wouldnt worry about response time unless you are getting a 240hz display
as long as its 5ms or less
me looking at second hand market and see 24" 1440p and 27" 1080p
also me: can we flip those numbers
I might have to take a trip to best buy to compare 1080p and 1440p monitors.
so i was looking at a monitor and i was wondering what this meant
so freesync will only run at 90hz max?
on that panel yeah the freesync range is 35-90hz
should i get the one this one thats ips but the freesync is capped at 90hz or one thats a TN panel running at 165hz with gsync
is anyone considering a Viotek panel? they have a zero dead pixel warranty
Does "overdriving" response time create problems on your monitor ? And is there a noticeable difference between 1ms and 4ms when gaming ?
I’ve been using monitors but never gamed on them and/or didn’t pay attention to the response time so I really can’t answer myself
If you play a game across 3 monitors, is it important that all monitors use displayports? or is it okey if one uses hdmi? 🙂
@leaden forge overdrive usually makes it go a lil crazy, gets ghosting and stuff
1ms to 4ms is pretty unnoticible unless you're really competitive
@covert swift that doesn't matter, you can have 2 monitors via display port and 1 with hdmi, 1 monitor via display port and 2 with hdmi.
As long as the ports are there on your gpu, its fine.
Alright, i' ll try to do a lil bit more research and won't worry too much about response time in the future then
If someone else more knowledgeable comes by they might be able to give more details, but thats bout it
Yw
Thanks 🙂
Okay I need some opinions. I have a 27" hp omen 1440p 165hz display. I'm looking at a second monitor but it'll only be used for discord, notifications, helping with my streams etc. It won't be used for my gaming entertainment display. But I keep telling my self I want a ips display 27" 1440p. Doesn't need to be high refresh rate. Or should I do a smaller screen 1440p or 1080 of whatever else panel. Money isn't a issue. But I can't make my mind up
keep in mind when you turn on G-SYNC it won't apply to both monitors and that can cause all kinds of shenanigans
@ebon beacon it'll probably only be going through HDMI so it won't be affected I'm pretty sure
But my thing is idk what type of display I want. I'm being picky for a second display that isn't my main but I do want a good monitor
get another HP omen like the one you have, G-SYNC both displays
I mean I could but than it won't be using the high refresh rate and stuff. No point in that regard
I would be paying more for something that wouldn't be used for the maximum
Why I'm saying it doesn't need to be high refresh rate 60-75 hz is completely fine
nonsense, you could use the high refresh rate just for the desktop
It's more of the resolution and panel type
i enjoy my 144Hz for just doing desktop stuff
I mean I see your point but it would have to be g sync or variable sync or whatever it's called
But what panel and resolution would make sense for the money for just those simple things
you could also play games on two monitors at the same time and get perfect sync
I don't like gaming on 2 monitors
It would drive me nuts with the bezels in the middle
This is where my monitor is located at atm. I can move my pc to a different location on the desk to get the second monitor though.
@plain kestrel get a 27" 1440 60-75hz monitor so your setup will be uniform
if you are feeling for a bit more splurge get it 144hz for a clean desktop experience
which one lads
this https://www.amazon.com/GN27DB-27-Inch-Monitor-FreeSync-GamePlus/dp/B078P57ZWL/ref=sr_1_2?crid=118QFDEVUF0QU&keywords=1440p+144hz+monitor&qid=1579194951&refinements=p_n_feature_thirteen_browse-bin%3A17751775011|17751780011%2Cp_n_feature_eleven_browse-bin%3A17726576011&rnid=17751770011&s=pc&sprefix=1440%2Celectronics%2C221&sr=1-2
or
https://www.amazon.com/AOC-CQ27G1-DisplayPort-adjustable-Zero-Bright/dp/B07V39QHMY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=118QFDEVUF0QU&keywords=1440p+144hz+monitor&qid=1579194951&refinements=p_n_feature_thirteen_browse-bin%3A17751775011|17751780011%2Cp_n_feature_eleven_browse-bin%3A17726576011&rnid=17751770011&s=pc&sprefix=1440%2Celectronics%2C221&sr=1-1
@astral ferry thanks I appreciate the recommendations
@astral ferry the reviews look better for the aoc vs the other one. I was looking at the same aoc montior too it looks pretty good but some will say the pixels at that size are to big for 1080p for me I don't think it will matter but not sure if it will for you
Are these predator monitors good?
If that’s usd that’s overpriced for 1080p
Super overpriced, it's 60hz, because if it we're more, then it would be advertised as such
Oh Jesus that's expensive
actually when that first came out it was something like a $400+ monitor. its cheap because its renewed as amazon calls it which means its a return and they took the shipping label off the box and taped it back up. 1920x1080 144hz. 1ms gtg response but its a TN panel so colors are meh. The biggest problem I would see is that Acer made like 15 revisions of that same monitor with slightly different part numbers. assuming that one is correct I think that is a gsync monitor. It could also be the regular version that is not gsync.
some of those monitors could also overclock to something like 170 or 180hz using the OSD so no fiddling with software to try and overclock.
Is it me or are consumers and sellers completely skip 2k or 1440p and make the jump from 1080 to 4k
You would have to go to around 32" to really notice 4k when sitting at your typical desk.
Back to being unable to decide between 1440p60 and 1080p144
1080p144 = 24" closer to my face, 1440p60 = 27" a bit further away.
4k is still not playable with most gpu's
I just made the jump to 1440p with my 2080 and its a really good resolution for high settings at that res
stuff like overwatch still gets stupid high frame rates with all the settings maxed and red dead 2 is still playable most of the time. that opening level in the snow is still crushing my gpu.
2080S. I cant go 1440p144, and 4k would be ridiculous. I dont have the space for large enough monitors to make 4k even acceptably visible to me
1440p144 because of price range, not GPU limitation. Though I know in some titles the 2080S cant manage that so I dont feel itll last me too long going down the line
If the 24"screen suits you better, I'd stick with 1080, you won't notice 1440 at that screen size.
The thing is if I get 1440 I get 27" instead of 24"
Its hard to explain but basically my dual arm monitor mount brings smaller monitors closer to me because of the wall behind
Yeah, at 27" you would definitely notice.
Its 24" for 1080p. Hence.
How far away is the monitor from you?
Thats a matter of vision
This is the WORST paint drawing ive ever constructed
Red line is the wall, horizontal black line is the edge of my desk
To get smaller monitors to come together in my dual monitor setup, the arm extends closer to me (left)
On the right is where a 27" monitor would be
go to 3 monitors instead (if you have the space)
with one of them potentially going vertical
So my decisions to manage the space I actually have is to go 1080p144 24" or 1440p60 27"
At my budget anyway
Both monitors the same ofc
I tried working with 3 monitors once, that was too much head turning for me.
the vertical fixes "some" of that
I have a 27" 1440p now sitting beside my 24" 1080p. I have another 27 on the way, but I really don't know if it will fit. might have to modify the desk area some.
corner desk limits my width
arms?
i have two of them and i loved it might try three some day
@late hatch How are you finding general use of a 27" 1440p over 24" 1080p?
no just sitting on top. but I have to rediculously large tower speakers on each side that get in the way. speaker to speaker I have 44 inches
a fair amount of my clients used to go with 22" (vertical) + 27" (normal) + 22" (vertical) with 1080+1440+1080 across them
monitors are 24" wide so something is going to have to move
I have only had this one for about a week. so far I am really happy
:)
I do have the feeling if I go 144hz I cant go back as people essentially say.
only games I have played on it are rdr2, fallen order and overwatch but all of them are playable. rdr2 in vulkan mode had some massive dips with the same settings I was playing on my 1080p monitor
Maybe 1440p will be better. Dunno.
I do cad work, so I'm working with 2 24" 1080p monitors.
From all I can tell, 1440p60 has the same performance as 1080p144. as in games that just scrape 144fps on 1080p just scrape 60fps at 1440.
my 27" is 165hz, and the 24 is 144. I have them both set to 144. 144 hz is great, but I can never game on a non freesync/gsync setup again
after using adaptive sync its painful
I couldnt go for 1440p144, Id hate having most things run 144 but choice games drop to 60 or less
I need consistency
And also I cant afford two 1440p144 monitors
with gsync you don't notice unless you are doing competitive fps competitively
Which I dont do, as an ex competitive RTS player as I consistantly remind people. But, who knows. I do notice some FPS differences.
on my 1080p monitor it does syncs down to 42hz and I cant tell its dropping until it gets to around 50
I do have a 3950x and got the 2080S with the intention of replacing it in some years so, it IS possible it wont be a problem with saving a bit longer for two 1440p144hz
with gsync disabled I cant stand the frame drops anymore. I never noticed how bad it was without it until I used it
I have a 1080p ultrawide that is 60hz and no freesync. I cant game on it anymore
Hence why I was worried about high FPS a GPU cant handle like 1440p144, couldnt handle games in a year or two that only play at 60fps or less on my GPU
If I play on it for about 20ish minutes I don't notice so much, but those first 20-30 minutes are hard to deal with until my eyes/brain get used to it again
and I game with my monitors about 30inches from my eyes. at that distance on my 24" msi monitor I can still kind of see the pixels, but not so much. its much less noticeable now using it as my second monitor. when I finish the desk in my wifes office it will make a good monitor for the family computer.
I hope you didn't end up paying that much for it
@astral saddle I would think a 2080S should be able to handle 1440p144 with very little issues.
It cant get that on most AAA titles.
Are you using ultra settings for everything? Also, ray tracing will kill frame rates on even the beefiest of cards.
Yeah well running at max settings is the idea.
it really depends on the game and the settings. on my 2080 at 1080p I can get over 100fps in most AAA games with everything maxed. at 1440p it gets down to around 60-80 in some games. bfv with full raytracing and everything maxed struggled at 1080p. I have not tried it yet on 1440p.
probably the game I have played the most so far on my new monitor is fallen order. it usually sits around 100-120 fps on 1440p with everything maxed. I have seen it drop to around 60 two or three times in very open scenes with lots of stuff going on. luckily with gsync enabled I have never actually noticed any stutter or obvious frame drops. only reason I know they dropped is because I was logging my frame rates at the time.
i got a 240hz monitor but for some reason rainbow six caps framerate at 180
my gpu and cpu are both at 40% utilization so i dont know whats happening
@severe depot if you mean R6S, i get up to 280 fps
you might have to configure your display to run at 240 in the windows settings
@sage trail I dont know why but a restart fixed it
@late hatch whats your cpu? your 2080 may be bottlenecked
2700x. might be a small bottleneck in some scenarios. frame rates are fine for me though. never drops low enough to get out of freesync range except for that opening level in rdr2.
was going to get a 3900x, but at this point I am waiting until ryzen 3
you mean 4?
4000 series is ryzen 3
ohh
3000 is ryzen 2, 2000 is ryzen+
makes sense
totally, not even remotely confusing at all 😄
i noticed that bf5 lags slightly on nvidia cards compared to amd cards
my frame rates in bf5 are great unless rtx is enabled
at 1080p it was in the 40's with everything maxed and highest rtx. pretty much what they got in all the reviews too. slightly lower since I dont have a 9900k at 5ghz.
multiplayer was higher, but I was mostly playing single player
yea i was comparing my performance with other 2070S users and it seems that at 1080p the games i tested, my fps was 15% avg lower than others running a better cpu. I have ordered a 1440p monitor and will do some test on that res
higher resolutions relieve load on the cpu
1440p is nice so far. I can't see the pixels at all like I can on my 24" msi
Fallen order my frame rates are practically the same. It caps them at 144 and I ispend most of my time in that 120+ fps range. I had one scene when where it was a big open area and there was lots of stuff floating in the air and it would drop into the 50s.
2080 running stock or OC'd?
but my 2080 is watercooled and boosts over 1980mhz in games.
I dont overclock it, just let it boost with power limit increased
I don't have the best overclocking card though. maxes out right around 2100mhz for benchmark runs.
I dont even know what the stock mem clock is
I think it went up to around 2000mhz, but I dont even remember
ya, thats the quad rate. so divide that by 4 for the actual speed
if u got a non S 2080 we roughly have the same performance
let me find a 3dmark run
thats stock without any overclock. just power limit
nicee!
or maybe that one was completely stock
do u just let your CPU turbo as well?
thats my best score so far
ya, just whatever pbo does. on my x570 I don't have any pbo options with the 2700x so it maxes out at 4ghz for all core boost. it will go to 4.5 for 1 or 2 cores though
pog
and my manual overclock on this cpu is only 4.1ghz and I prefer not to manual clock i I dont have to on this one. I like it idling at lower volts and having higher single core speeds for stuff that can use it.
my 2600 I have manual to 4ghz. it starts taking a lot of voltage after 4ghz
i got my 2700 in a manual oc 4ghz at 1.38v
thats pretty good. my 2700x takes right at 1.4v to get 4.12
does it get hot?
my 2600 will get 4ghz at 1.32v but to get to 4.1 I have to go to 1.45v.
oh wow thats a big voltage leap
on my custom loop it stays around 55C under load
ya I have had cpus hit voltage walls before, but that one is pretty crazy
my 6600k has a pretty hard voltage wall at 4.7ghz
thats my most recent intel cpu
i personally dont think ill be going back to intel anytime soon. I was using an i3 8100 before i built my new machine
It can do 4.7ghz at 1.35v 4.8 goes around 1.425. to get into windows at 5ghz too 1.62v
fab
ive compared it to other users
so is userbench
who run different cpus
Are you comparing them against an ssd? NVME? Same ram speed? Same ram timings? Overclocked? PBO? So many variables to consider that comparing against others is difficult
there will always be a bottleneck in any system
Yes, that ram is a bit slow for a 2700x
timings also matter
And no, there will not be a bottleneck in any system
That's a misnomer
and a myth
it really just depends on the use cases for your system
so if you consider all circustances
you will find a bottleneck somewhere
@maiden wedge thats pre good
No, bottleneck is an inappropriate and misused term
Ram Quantity doesn't matter
speed and timings with Ryzen are important
2700x probably wont run 3600
3200 CL14 is where it needs to be
memory controller might limit it
mine wont easily go past 3400. 3400 is stable though
its gonna be a x570
x570 kinda overkill for a 2700x
Chipset doesn't determine ram speed
memory controller is on the cpu not the motherboard
For those, 3600 is the best
ah
I have ran my 2700x on a b450, x470 and x570. none will go over 3400
i guess you can lower the speed of your ram with 2700x and then bring it up when you ugrade
ya, nothing stopping that
Getting 2nd gen Ryzen to 3600 probably won't happen. It gets very unreliable
Technically with 3700 and up you could go something like 3800 to get the fabric to 1900 mhz but it's pointless. The gains aren't worth the cost
@late hatch yo back to ur bf5 performance. i ran metro at 1080p ultra with rtx on high and the game ran at 100fps
dont have exodus
that game.....has issues when launching the game especially streaming it :/
only games I have with shaders so far is bf5, quake 2 and minecraft. I haven't even played minecraft with shaders
Well, the Shader Packs aren't real shaders anyway
Minecraft with true Ray Tracing won't be here for a few more months
I don't really even play the game. I bought it for my son
I played it for about 10 hours in the last year.
ready for the rtx launch though. hopefully it looks good.
i hope this years launch of games offer RT option
That would be nice
I may upgrade if that happens. I jumped on the 2060 bandwagon too early
I haven't historically played a lot of different games. I mostly just like playing with hardware.
I buy a lot of games and then never actually play any of them other than the first few levels
I have played way too much overwatch though
im personally hoping for RT on the resident evil 3 remake. RT would be a game changer for that horror filled game
global illumination 
i have a stuck pixel its stuck red and whenever i hover my cursor over it it turns white
any fixes
Try something like JScreenFix.
If that doesn't work, try some of the other methods from this post
ok thanks
I have fixed a stuck pixel in the past by tapping it very gently with my fingernail.
very gently
ok i will try that
also i am playing r6s on low settings and only getting around 200fps i have an rtx 2080ti wth is happening
some people say to use a toothpick or pencil, I have always been afraid of taping too hard and breaking it.
when i use my fingernail it took about 5 minutes of tapping
there is another way with a paper towel and tapping, but I never used that one. I haven't used that method in years thought. I had a tv once with a stuck pixel that it worked on and a dell monitor from about 10 years ago that worked, but the pixel woudl get stuck again after several months.
google might be your friend for fixing this if it can be fixed
Ask here 😉
well I have a display but I want another one for my chats and discord and I wanna make it pivot
that is not true at all. There is absolutely no reason to spend $200 on a vertical monitor mount.
@ebon beacon breathe? :) also, pivot is a fairly normal feature of biz line displays
i feel like the ergotron is the most versatile option, and is reliable, but yes if you just need to pivot then it's simpler
edit: deleted bad advice
also i'm breathing just fine
i want the ergotron but i have other priorities
@limber gust is it okay to get a monitor that pivots?
just so you can have it vertical
or do you want/need something else
well I have 1 monitor that I will use for productivity stuff and gaming/ homework asswel the vertical one will be all my contacts and discords and stuff
@ebon beacon
okay so you just need to get a second monitor to pivot
yes
doesn't need high res and stuff just enough that if my other monitor breaks I can replace this one
what's the figure of EUR you want to spend
idk depends on my setup I was gonna buy at the same time
2.6k I'm on
so like 200 maybe
k
https://www.coolblue.nl/en/product/787838/aoc-i2790pqu-bt.html#product-specifications a 27" 1080p pivoting display for EUR169
Order the i2790PQU/BT at Coolblue. Ordered before 23:59? Delivered for free tomorrow. Coolblue: anything for a smile.
er
so this is a good one
it's the best i could find for your money
for a 2070
other ones were a bit small
since this is going to pivot and go to the side i didn't worry about refresh rate
yeah
yeah 144hz
make sure to separate the monitors completely in settings
like don't have one of them run into the other
or you'll have issues with keeping 144Hz
okay how do I do that
select only fullscreen g-sync or freesync in your GPU driver's settings actually, that should be fine
will get adaptive sync working that way with two monitors
i will keep my 1080p monitor as i have chosen to buy a Vega 56
and that card will run anything 1080p maxed out but might require some tuning for higher resolutions
also high framerate is important because of freesync
I was skeptical when i bought mine as its a chinese made n designed monitor. But now that i have it i have no regrets. It performs well great value for its price
And the 27" showed me that ill never get into 4k as monitor sizes are just way too large for pc gaming
27" 1440p is the max best for me
Isn't the up coming RX 5600 XT going to be the same performance as the Vega 56 with less power and little less heat?
maybe, it's questionable though
i know it's going to be more expensive than a Vega 56
and i don't pay my electricity
i might build my own monitor
i want 16:10, but also a higher refresh rate
thoughts?
best of luck :)
in all seriousness, i would LOVE if manufacturers started doing 1920*1200 panels again
ok i got one. I have a weird issue on my laptop thats been there since day one, and idk if its normal. laptop is g7 7588 and the screen has flickering white pixels all over that are only noticeable in dark screens
its not a huge deal but it bothers me on black screens lol
wut
@lost onyx look up reviews
the stand looks flimsy but it looks like a nice panel and im pretty sure the panel is from LG
27" with 1080p dont mesh well together. Pixel density is so small
stick to 24" and also refresh rate is at 75hz keep in mind
Just got a second monitor and was wondering how I'd make them have all their own data
As in having everything show up the same for both on the task bar and being able to set individual wallpapers
@candid plaza I have basically the same model just a little older (aoc b1h27) and while it is only 1080, you can't see individual pixels from more than 6 inches back. As far as I'm concerned, it looks like one hell of a deal
Although I do think a little more money would get you into 1440 range
@maiden wedge right click the desired picture
wdym like the icons on them?
not sure but all youd need is probably in the taskbar settings of windows
@maiden wedge Display settings
How much in usd is a good price for a 144hz 1ms response time monitor
A good price ? Around 130 is a good price
But they usually go for 150-170 USD
Depends also on the Panel, adaptive Sync, brand etc
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824025966 @rotund jolt
thank you @solemn yarrow
sceptre is good imo
sceptre is weird
@analog coral depends what resolution you want. 1080p has alot of selections. 1440p tend to be a bit more costly
Anyone know if apu's like i3 9100 or the 3400G will work with a 1080p monitor at 144mhz?
Why va panel?
@outer agate i dont see why it wouldnt work now the problem isnt the monitor its that your integrated graphics will most likely never run at 144fps
you can get your 144hz monitor but it wont be much different from a 60hz monitor as your apu will struggle to pump out frames
nvm csgo and low resource games will run at high fps
if you want to play anything else you should get a discrete gpu
Ok thanks @astral ferry looks like I'm better off getting a cheap gpu and maybe get the i3 9100F. Only $85 on Amazon rn. Building a budget pc for my parents. My mom does game sometimes but heavy duty.
Not*
Out of these displays which one is better? I'm using it as a second display not for gaming
Gonna be ordering it today
You think the viotek would be the best option?
I wonder what the dif is between the d and db
more pixels means your card will be a bit warmer at idle
My card will be fine no worries there
Now my 1070ti though would I be able to do high refresh rate through HDMI?
depends on resolution and what hdmi port the monitor has
2.0b or 2.1 port on monitor then most likely yes depending on resolution
It's all 1440p @zealous wigeon
@plain kestrel then as long as the monitor has at least a 2.0b hdmi port no problem hitting as high as 240hz with the hdmi port
Alrighty
Well I bought the aoc just because it has a better stand
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07H2X2Z6L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 i bought this monitor and so far i have no regrets
what do you guys recommend monitor wise for my pc i7 9700k, strix2080s
1440p 144hz+
ips or va
or if you play esports titles exclusively a 1080p 240hz+
@raven pelican
i play rocket league a lot but that’s the only esports title
so should i go for 1440
yea 1440p 27"
thats definitely the resolution you wanna be to utilize the best of your gpu
make sure its at 144hz or more too as 2080S will be able to play most games at 100+fps at 1440p
Anyone know a good 144hz 1440p monitor for a decent price?
Bit on the higher end of price but the MSI MAG271CQR is good
@visual pilot I like the MAG321CQR
Well actually
The 31in model would be too big for my desk lol
I'm likely going to get the mag271cqr, its like 300
@mighty tide there was one on newegg for 220$
@visual pilot ya I like that one as well
Ya
1440p 144hz is a sweet spot
depends on PPI
if u have a monitor smaller than like 24 inches
1080 144 looks the same
Nice
i have a 27 inch 1080p 144Hz monitor, and i like it quite a bit
the PPI isn't that bad
have to get my eyes within 4 inches or so to be able to see the faintest hint of a pixel
it also depends on the sharpness (how pointy the corners of each pixel are)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QZ4P5KB/ wish i bought this one honestly
more room on the screen
The 31 inch is cheaper lol
i had 27 inch 1080p anni .. and it looks fine xD qled 144hz
@maiden wedge have a chat with @true iron
27in 1080p 240hz good option? (core i7 9700k, 2080super)
i wouldnt really go 1080p240hz unless you're a esports or serious player, i'd go 1440p144hz (if you go 1080p try to get 24in instead of 27in for better pixel density)
i have some old monitor im using rn its like a samsung 720p 60hz monitor and im looking for a new one thats cheap what should i buy?
Depends on the PC you have rn
So my 240hz monitor is coming tommorow,im getting 200fps in games such as fortnite etc. will i feel a difference from 144hz ?
@ebon beacon
depends on you.
Will I feel a different
time will tell
as i said, depends on you
what i said, it depend on you physically
which means it is an impossible question to answer for us
but does you feel a difference
my experience does not matter for your experience.
@hasty hound test it and if you deem that the increase in refresh rate is negligible compared to the amount you invested into the monitor, return it.
What would be the best 1440p at 27" gaming monitor (min 120hz; 1ms response)?
This is the cheapest one according to your criteria.
@remote otter
If you’re willing to pay more you can get an IPS panel instead of TN
Thank you
The acre nitro vg270 is 1/2 off rn on Newegg @remote otter
I have the gf276 and I like it
@remote otter sorry im blind... im poor so not really looking at anything higher than that currently sorry for wasting you time 🙃 hope you find what your looking for and pop a pic in build-pics so i can drool and be jeleaous
@mint olive Unfortunately the planning of my new setup is also still pretty theoretical. If I try, I might get there in a year. Gotta sell a whole lot of old stuff laying around, sell my current pc parts (which I don’t reuse), start a side job, dump most of my savings and collect some money from family... yeah
New monitor came in
ooohhh nice
yeah getting the drivers for it now and getting it all set up
aoc
@ebon beacon yep it's $250 it's worth it for the price. Only thing you have to do is get the driver for it it's g sync compatible and color calibrate it which I'm working on still
Also btw for anyone who does color calibration I would like some help for sure
Hi all, anyone have any recommendations for a 1440p 144hz monitor with Gsync?
@round vapor g sync compatible would save you money instead of strait g sync.
But what is your price range
@round vapor MAG321CQR or mag271cqr
@plain kestrel is it 1440p 144hz and who is it made by also what panel is it?
@shell hedge yes it is. And it's a VA panel and the brand is AOC. Idk who makes the actual panel itself
Oof good luck with aoc I have heard they dont last very long and that the ghosting is very bad on them I'm going for a MAG321CQR
@shell hedge all manufacturers have products in their portfolio that is horrible. they all also have good products in there. Do keep that in mind when making company wide comments like you did :)
I was just saying what I have read that's all
aye, and i commented what i did to give some context for the lurkers that copy/paste comments like yours with the reasoning: "it was something i read somewhere else"
I mean it's got a 3 year warranty so I ain't worried about it
Sometimes warranties dont work or bad customer service
@plain kestrel I'm looking for one that will last me a while so the $400 - $500 range.
@WATERMELON_SHARK#6781 it's through Amazon so I should be good lol
@round vapor well you're in a very good price point look at lg gaming series they are beautiful monitors
Mikey true, but if he has like a 1060 i7-6700 then
If he's got that money for a monitor im pretty sure his specs are fine
Or maybe he wants a great monitor before he builds his PC
@mighty tide a good monitor is very rarely a waste.
monitors of good quality are investments of the same kind that cases and psu's are.
I know
My HP OMEN and AOC monitor both together are around $500 together 😂
nice lol
decent monitors are quite cheap nowadays :)
Yes they are I got my HP OMEN from Walmart for $280 and it was a wall display
Hp doesn't make them anymore I got a steal
its the one with the thicker bottom bezel right?
Yep
yeah, personally i dont like that :)
limits how you can use them when they are vesa mounted on arms
It never really bothered me. As long as the display is great for what it is I'm okay with it.
If the bezels were huge on the side different story
aye aye, what is most important is what YOU (the one buying) are okay with
i have a preference for portrait rotation
Ahhh I've never done portrait and probably never will
and the bottom bezel being wide is ... silly for that :)
But in that instance I do agree no thick bezels for that
portrait is lovely for text editing and/or reading/reference work
but as i said, it is a personal preference. i dont care one bit if other people are okay with a wide bezel :)
much as that might be a nice monitor to use, the limited usecase is enough that it would be a waste for me [edit: a]
I would use it for gaming alot for that wide view advantage
yes, because you have the time for gaming :)
Minecraft on quake mode on that monitor would be nuts😂. Probably get motion sickness
:)
Is the rx 5700 xt good enough to run games at 1440p with a good fps?
Games like 2020 AAA-releases
@remote otter we dont know what will be released this year, so we cannot answer that question.
Well say last year then
I don't believe so.
but it is not looking all that likely. considering the performance.
I think 5700xt would be more like 80fps range on triple a titles (1440p)
"Obviously u don’t" <- do elaborate on that @remote otter
But 80fps is good enough to play a game? Or is the 5700xt just not good enough
It really depends on the game, you should look up specific game benchmarks and the 5700xt with 1440p and see how smooth it runs
For example, here is the division 2 benchmark for 1440p 5700xt, looks okay, but only around 60fps
https://youtu.be/6xF8A6vT-Jo
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Windows 10 Pro
Ryzen 5 2600
MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon
RX 5700 XT Powercolor Red Dragon
16Gb RAM 3200Mhz
Drivers 19.10.1
1440p 144hz gaming monitor with very high contrast?
Theres a good acer one I believe thats on sale from 350 to 270
for contrast i'd look for a VA panel
Eew VA
va has the best contrast 🤷
i ranked ips, va, tn from worst to best
So TN is best for you ?
Aha I got you 😉
It depends ips has better colors, tn has better response times and higher refresh rates with no sacrifices, and VA has better color than tn but has better response times and refresh rate than ips. All depends on what you are doing
i'd say the main deciding factor is price tbh
@plain kestrel So for gaming in a non-competitive sense, IPS or VA would be ideal?
I game on a TN and color calibrated it and it looks great
I don't like TN panels, and personally use 2 VA panels right now. I will say if you get TN and run dual monitors make sure both are TN. If you stick a TN beside a VA or IPS it will drive you insane. VA and IPS are usually close enough color wise that you can calibrate them to match. TN will never calibrate close enough to match the others.
If you only run 1 monitor then TN is perfectly fine. You will never know the difference unless you go looking for it.
the thing with TN is that the advantages they have are starting to dwindle as ips and va are getting higher ref rate and response times
@late hatch I run a tn panel and VA panel. But it doesn't bother me ones for gaming another one is for YouTube videos, and other multitasking needs
@astral ferry yeah but the thing is with ips and VA those numbers are sometimes false. If you turn on hyper drive you start seeing smured images, blurry text, over shadowing, etc. Tn doesn't have those issues well good tns anyways
it may not bother you, but I couldnt stand having the 2 monitors beside of each other.
I used it that way for 3 years though
but the colors on my TN drove me crazy
i am with @late hatch on this one. Dont mix panels. But as you say @plain kestrel, it might not matter for some people.
I mean if you are using all three monitors the same than yeah it would drive me insane but for different use cases don't let it bother you. I've used all panel types before so I got a pretty good experience with all of them
aye aye
heck, one of my exes used a tv as her monitor
people are weird in what they can accept if the content being displayed interests them enough
@plain kestrel i didnt say they are on par. But eventually TN panels will be phased out for ips or va
TN will never be phased out because of pro gamers though
I use to play on ips response time is awful. And they won't get to 5ms or less without issues. The colors were great but tn has such a quicker response time it's noticable
If you want to actually go in detail look up hardware unboxed they go in full detail with colors, response time, hz ratings etc. And go in detail what issues come up
So do I but 1ms you aren't getting ik that for a fact lol
Put on overdrive for the max and you'll still seeing issues
It ain't gonna improve anytime soon I give it the max of 3-5, years
Lgs nano ips doesn't even get 5ms without having issues the best it gets without issues is around 10-12 I believe
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Yeah but it's picky on the hz though. Also still smuring affect either way.
Don't get me wrong it's nice to see they are trying but you are paying over $300 for a small monitor that's ips. No way I got a 1440p curved 27" 144hz supposedly 1ms VA panel for $250 new
@slate hamlet it's made by AOC. I just got it Monday off Amazon
@slate hamlet oled displays would be even better lol
Micro-LEDs are the direct succesor
When liquid displays are a thing
Not like liquid crystals like actual plain liquid
What monitor should I buy 144 hz under 200
1080p
Ya that should be fine I suggest looking at msi and asus for monitors
Not saying that other brands are bad these are just the two I have used
does anyone know of any 1080p 24 inch 144hz monitors or 1440p 144hz 27 inch or 32 inch monitors
I've been looking at the AOC G2590FX, can find it new for anywhere between $160 and $210. It's 1080p 144hz, 24 or 25 inch I believe
can 1440p@144hz do 1080@240hz because generally monitors can give a higher hz if you give it a lower resolution
not by that much
@stone grove very pleased with that model by AOC
What would you guys say the best 1440p 144hz monitor is preferably 27" or bigger
Doost freesync monitors work with an Nvidia GPU?
Do most*
I don't think I understand your question
I think Free Sync means there is Adaptive Sync (almost always) -> compatible with NVIDIA G Sync
But you should still double check
All FreeSync monitors will work with a Nvidia card. The only thing you would need to be concerned about is if the monitor is also G-Sync certified
otherwise you will not be able to reap the benefits of that tech
Okay so is there like a list of gsync compatible monitors out there?
Check pcpartpicker.com and the monitors on that website.
Enter the search filters and you should be good to go
When you find a good monitor with Freesync double check on the website of the monitor if it is also G Sync Compatible
They usually are
I believe Nvidia has a list on their website of their G Sync compatible monitors
Okay thanks guys
Would hate to get a 2070 super and not be able to use gsync on my monitor
@rocky zealot i have 2 freesync monitors that arent listed by nvidia and they work pretty good. used with my 2070S
most, if not all new monitors with freesync will work with gsync
Whats a good monitor for dual monitor
that doesn't really give anyone a lot of info to help you with
how much do you want to spend, what size do you want, resolution, ect
@maiden wedge MAG321CQR is a 32" 1440p 144hz monitor by msi
in related news, Nvidia just released a new driver version that expands their G-Sync compatible monitor stable. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/zombie-army-dead-war-4-game-ready-driver/
Can someone give me options for 27" dual monitors for gaming and video editing.
Budget friendly option
Medium option
High end option
With 144-165mhz
Reason: Duplicated text
Optional budget (professional but you drop the refresh rate): https://www.newegg.com/asus-pb278qv-27-wqhd/p/N82E16824236995?&quicklink=true
Medium: https://www.newegg.com/p/0JC-004Y-00037?&quicklink=true
Tyvm
for the high end i'd either swap it for a px7 prime or lg 27GL850-B
It's technically a display ;)
anyone knows a good display? $300 IPS 120hz+ and Idrc if its 24 or 27
@junior cipher 1080p or 1440p
1080
IPS only? No VA?
Gotchu on that part
I have the MSI mag241c, good monitor.
There's cheaper aoc 144hz monitors too
ok
thx
checked on the website
2 diff prices
can not tell the difference except price ;-;
@visual pilot
Huh?
I have a 768p 60hz display, fight me
Trust the left one @junior cipher
ok thx
Right one is shipped from Taiwan prob why it's more expensive
yes
I also trust WEGG so
What’s a good monitor with dvi
If you asking about dvi then any monitor is good lol
i can get 3 samsung 1920x1080 monitors for 105€
Can someone tell me if I will get the full 165hz of this monitor through the display port? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YYWVBQ8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
9/10 times you will get the full amount through a display port. And as i can see, yes you will. @maiden wedge
@red forge Thank you!
I need a second monitor, Anyone can help me?
This is the monitor I have and I want to upgrade to a gaming monitor
I have a 1070ti
preferably under 200
Monitors usually last the longest peripheral wise, is that a strict budget?
And what do you mostly play?
Theres an AOC 144hz for 144 usd
It's freesync though
If you can stretch your budget a little, this one is $250:
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People suggested me this one
That's decent
i've just assembled my rig but i'm not a monitor person i don't know what is what when it comes to them so anyone have good advice for around 450au$ monitor from pc case gear?
any leads on a monitor? Looking to get something with 1080p, 144+hz, g-sync
Check out the Dell one, but it's only 24 inches
and 165hz
Oh nvm, it's 1440p
I'd go with the last link Ms. Kitty posted
is ok to have 2 75hz monitors on a radeon r9 200 series
I have a hard time picking between; Gigabyte 27" AORUS FI27Q and LG 27'' UltraGear 27GL850 QHD Nano IPS anyone that has tried them or knows about them ? 🙂
Are the specs the same ?
kind of yes, lg has some more % in color, and the gigabyte can use all the functions without and negative feedback(From what I've heared)
Hmm. I think it would make the comparison easier if you could drop links
https://www.newegg.com/global/se-en/black-gigabyte-aorus-fi27q-sa-27/p/N82E16824012010?Description=AORUS FI27Q&cm_re=AORUS_FI27Q-_-24-012-010-_-Product&quicklink=true
and
https://www.amazon.com/LG-27GL850-B-Ultragear-Compatible-Monitor/dp/B07TD94TQF/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=LG+27''+UltraGear+27GL850+QHD+Nano+IPS&qid=1580992843&sr=8-1
Yea I think so too haha, but the Swedish site I order from, recommended the LG ^^
ah
I just know aorus makes great gaming monitors
LG has been better at TVs
unless it's them really expensive LG tvs
looking at reviews on the LG, they have a bad bleed issue
Ah okey
@covert swift not any impactful difference between the two
should i have vsynce off on games or on
depends on how it works for you


