peripherals-and-displays

[last plinth]

Its true

[queen sigil]

funny how you just recently realized cntrl is 13 as well
@tacit wing yeah I recently started being active like 10/27

so like a week and a half

[west hornet]

or both are under 13 but say 13 because tos

[queen sigil]

they both cant chose an audio setup

and constantly ask for help

[last plinth]

I chose

[tacit wing]

this chat will have a virtual celebration when they finally get their setup

[last plinth]

Yes

[tacit wing]

now idk when that is but its hopefully before i get to have kids

buy a house

work till i retire

die

[last plinth]

Youll never get kids

[normal barn]

@west hornet uhh my bday

was on halloween

so im offically 13

which means i might get a new acc

[queen sigil]

this chat will have a virtual celebration when they finally get their setup
@tacit wing he said he's going to get his setup once he gets a job but he's 13

[normal barn]

when

who wehn

i dont have a job and never said i wanted one

[queen sigil]

waybe i wasnt talking about you

[tacit wing]

why don't u want a job

[thick plank]

@west hornet certainly. There are massdrop products i recommend but I definitely am skeptical of a lot of ther claims at release and so far 2 products were straight up scams and one just a terrible value rebrand

[tacit wing]

bababooey

[thick plank]

But the brand isn't suddenly unusable

So I definitely agree there

But my issue is those 2 scam products seem to be getting recommended by people here who fell for the marketing and false claims of reviewers (not even from drop) trying to get affiliate sales off of those same false claims and confirmation bias

[last plinth]

He wants to live with his parents forever

[tight pulsar]

@thick plank so basically ur saying everybody elses opinion and experience is worthless and urs is the only that matters

bc thats what i got from that sentence

[tacit wing]

fortnut skims through what everyone is saying. like 99% typing, 1% listening

completely ignored a WHOLE ASS FORUM that has proved him wrong

that the 5xx isnt a rebranded Deva

youre not gonna tell me purrin and MLE have affiliated links because they dont

[timber ridge]

you done killed yourself dino

[tacit wing]

like i will tell this dude his house is on fire and he will still continue to argue with me that the 58x's are bad value

[queen wadi]

the viper ulti is so good :D

i havent gone under 90% battery yet

[tacit wing]

Viper Ult pog

[sharp kindle]

i want to see glorious beat razer with the Model o Wireless

cause the viper mini is good

but expensive

[tacit wing]

smerth have u seen FaZe vs OG that just finished a few min ago

MonkaS game

back to back 1 vs. 3 clutches on both teams

[normal barn]

lol

i might get the model o wireless

for fps stuff

and use my g502 for prodectivity

[sharp kindle]

g502 is rlly good for productivity

the hyper scroll is goated

@tacit wing i had the stream open on the side and it looked close

my fantasy team is failing though

[west hornet]

TOS

[queen sigil]

hmmm

Function 96

[thick plank]

@tight pulsar no, what im saying is that an objectively false claim like a 58x is a 660 driver or a deva is using half as many magnets and the 5xx has 2 sides of them(which wouldn't work as it would cause an equal push and pull causing the driver not to move) are invalid no matter who says them and saying a product is good because those false claims or saying a product is good without knowing at what or relative to what just because you own it is bad

Infact quite the opposite of what you are strawmanning as my claim

...

[tacit wing]

this is Fortnut when you give your thoughts to products you own

[queen sigil]

me when someone says they want a 60% with clicky switches to play fortnite

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500102713137430529/774387675250950164/318271da980706f7a18a811c3456a77d.png

[last plinth]

lawll

Him when theres valid evidence

[queen sigil]

bro thats a funny

[thick plank]

@tacit wing thoughts on a product you own like "I like this" and especially "I like this because (valid reason)" are fine. Things like "get this product because I own it" for a usecase it is terrible for or just objectively wrong claims or comparisons however i don't think anyone should appreciate or reward.

For example I say I like my 95x because I like vocals and it handles them well and accurately with a ton of detail and because how it separates vocals". I however should be criticized if I said something like "I love the 95x because it is the widest sound stage" or if someone said "i need a headset that meshes vocals with instruments and doesn't separate them" and I said "get 95x cause I own it and like it" that would be bad

[amber oracle]

then please go back and actually find the times where either of them have said "get this product because I own it"

[tacit wing]

well i usually vouch for products that i have good experience with and when someone asks ME about what they think of them i assume that they value MY OPINION and MY EXPERIENCE with them

i am aware of "confirmation bias" but for something in the realm of audio, it is hard for me to say anything about a product that i have never heard

i just think it is counter-productive when you steer away people from great headphones and invalidate other people's suggestions because you think there are "better options"

what an average consumer is looking for is VERY different from yours

[tight pulsar]

thank you tkc very cool

[tacit wing]

is that parcel insurance?

[thick plank]

@amber oracle here is an example of saying a product that is literally known for being one of rhe worst imaging and sound staging open backs being recommended for gaming cause "I have it"

[little crater]

i dont see where hes recommending them, looks like hes just saying that he really likes his

[amber oracle]

that is his opinion.

[thick plank]

And to be clear he can enjoy his 58x

[daring zenith]

I dunno what you have against the 58x

I don't even know what a 58x is

but chill

[little crater]

hedfone

[thick plank]

But is is objectively a bad option for that use and shouldn't be recommend for that

[amber oracle]

@thick plank consider this: its his opinion.

[tacit wing]

fortnut thinks that every suggestion here must be followed AT ONCE!

[thick plank]

And is pretty much just objectively bad as a new buy as there are products better in all categories at once for cheaper

[amber oracle]

everyone has the CHOICE of following a suggestion.

[daring zenith]

I'm just looking at the search with 58x to figure out what it is, and half the messages are you trying to argue against it..?

just chill

:P

[little crater]

sound is different that computer components, its all almost totally subjective

im sure the specs of the headphones matter, but sound is sound, if he likes they way the 58x sound, then cool

[thick plank]

@little crater actually sound is very objective. Sound signature preference is the only subjective aspect

[little crater]

i mean, some people love their crap wired apple earphones from 2012...

[thick plank]

Speed, sound stage, detail, db in highs to dm in mids to db in lows to accuracy, sharp timber or soft timber, sibelant or not, all those are objective

[little crater]

and whether you like it or not is 100% subjective

lol

[daring zenith]

Subjective in terms of if anyone likes any of those aspects.

[amber oracle]

@thick plank question: You like sound right?

[daring zenith]

oh well

[thick plank]

@daring zenith correct, which aspects you value and what sound signature you want is subjective

But I cant take something with the same sound signature that is behind in every category and say I like it more cause sound is subjective for instance

[daring zenith]

"behind"

[thick plank]

Let's say I have 2 headsets that image the same and have the same sound stage and the same timber and the same fr etc with the only difference being one has a 2x faster driver and extracts a lot more detail from the audio signal

And they are the same proce

The higher detail headset is objectiveky better

Now if there are other differences thrown in like price or maybe the other is more high heavy then it becomes subjective as to which I will like more or should value more

[tacit wing]

higher detail is not objectively better lol, because poorly recorded songs will sound worse

[thick plank]

Actually that isnt true

Poorly recorded songs will just sound the same

[tacit wing]

listening to a brick wall of a recording will not be a fun time with higher detail

[thick plank]

You will get all the detail with a cheaper headset from a compressed file too

But a more detailed headset will get more detail from a less compressed recording

listening to a brick wall of a recording will not be a fun time with higher detail
@tacit wing no matter how high the detail you dont somehow lose quality from bad recordings

Hearing better recordings may make you wish the other recordings was also well recorded but it isnt at all worse suddenly

It would be like saying if I have a 2080ti and try bf1 at 144fps then suddenly command and conquer will be slower locked at 60fps than it is on an rx580 with the game locked at 60fps

[amber oracle]

i will ask again @thick plank

you like sound right?

[thick plank]

Yes?

[amber oracle]

IF you want someone to actually take your opinion seriously. It does way more harm than good to hammer on them

IF you dont try and understand why they say something. You will just fortify their position.

From my pov, both you, senn, dino are talking out your behinds.

BUT

that is on you

[tight pulsar]

@tacit wing yeah i tried to grab gmk dmg r2 extras but it says i only ordered route insurance idk where the keycaps went

[queen sigil]

lol what

[amber oracle]

IF i wanted to convince anyone of something i feel passionately about. I would NOT try to hammer them with "facts/things-that-seem-obvious-to-me"

[queen sigil]

@tacit wing yeah i tried to grab gmk dmg r2 extras but it says i only ordered route insurance idk where the keycaps went
@tight pulsar so you just bought package protection with no keycaps

[amber oracle]

people have all the right in the world to have their own opinion about things.

but it is just plain rude to keep on hammering

keep in mind, that is my personal take on it

[thick plank]

I'm pretty sure I have directly asked them to say what makes a given headset a good option for a use multiple times

[tight pulsar]

@queen sigil idk somebody else had that happen and a staff member said to talk to cs so idk whats gonna happen

[thick plank]

When they were recommending the 6xx for gaming especially

[queen sigil]

Did it go out of stock or something

[amber oracle]

ive said it before, but i greatly value having debates about things. Because it gives people a chance to learn

[tight pulsar]

yeah probably a stock issue cause they had 74 base kits

[amber oracle]

debates = echanges of viewpoints

[tight pulsar]

but its really weird that the shipping insurance charge went through which means i had a item in my cart when i checked out or else it wouldnt be a standalone option

[tacit wing]

yes. all i said last night that Sennheiser needs to chill on the clampforce on their 600 series so their pads wouldnt go lopsided against my temple, and low and behold Fortnut berated me for not knowing certain stuff about my headphones

[amber oracle]

i see a bunch of assumptions from everyone involved in "this" @thick plank

and that (the assumptions) does not help any of you

[thick plank]

It isnt a clamp force issue that causes that

[amber oracle]

it just makes all of you miss out on actually talking about something you all like

[tacit wing]

yes i think it does

its 1.4 lbs of force clamping against my head and the earpads molded with my temple

[thick plank]

It happens even if you bend the metal beams and the cause is the foam sennheiser uses slowly compresses on its own and adjust in shape sort of going flat and losing air

[tacit wing]

[thick plank]

A solution is i guess dekoni pads but they sound different

But tbh I haven't tried them on the 650

[tacit wing]

i think either better structural integrity of the foam would be a solution

but the clampforce fresh out of the box is almost unbearable

i didnt stretch it out or anything like that

[thick plank]

Yea, try taking the headband to the farthest put position and bending back the metal slowly and evenly

Not bending back as in backwards but like apply force so t bends slightly

That will loosen the pressure

Did the same with my 650 headband but I took the headphones odd before doing so

*off

[tacit wing]

i dont wanna get Dekonis because iver heard OEM's are always the way to go for the 600 series

[queen sigil]

why are audio people so scarry

[tacit wing]

but we'll see. i have my eye on Drop's replacement pads

why are audio people so scarry
@queen sigil because mfs focus too much on proving other people wrong

thats cringe

[amber oracle]

because they drink real hard from the marketing supply of coolaid @queen sigil

[fiery thorn]

Hello everyone...small question. I got a Wireless Corsair Void headset.....and I lost the usb dongle. I wish to buy a new one, but can't seem to find any online! There seems to be some in stock on newegg but when I try to buy them they redirect me to newegg.ca (since I'm from canada...) where there's none. Anyone know a way to get around this?

[tacit wing]

if you have your product registered, Corsair may help you directly @fiery thorn

[fiery thorn]

People on reddit tried that without any luck...but I guess I can try anyway...thx

[amber oracle]

@fiery thorn also for the newegg redirect. try and have a chat with @fallow glacier , they should be able to help on that one

[fiery thorn]

K. I'll try that too! Thx

[amber oracle]

just be aware they are normally fairly busy, so just leave a polite message that outlines what you would like help with, and they will get back to you as soon as they can

[fiery thorn]

K, I'll keep that in mind! thanks again

[amber oracle]

you are very welcome and best of luck :)

[craggy canopy]

Does the SteelSeries Arctis 3 have good mic quality

[tacit wing]

for in-game comms yes its adequate

but it aint like streamer mic quality or anything like that @craggy canopy

[craggy canopy]

ok

what is the headphone under 80 bucks

[tacit wing]

also reviews on YT will always have sound demos for headset mics

[last plinth]

Bro steelseries made me destroy my mouse

[craggy canopy]

thats wired

[last plinth]

😢

[craggy canopy]

?

[last plinth]

For warranty

[tacit wing]

For warranty
@last plinth that is actually a very common thing in r/mousereview LMAO

[craggy canopy]

anyways, what is the best white headphone under 80 bucks

doesnt have to have mic

it can but not a necessity

[last plinth]

Dino want to post steelseries rival 3 pcb on there

[west hornet]

for sound quality id say porta pro, for other things idk

[tight pulsar]

so i wasnt fast enough for extras then ig

[queen sigil]

is ur package gonna be safe tho

ur insurance

[tight pulsar]

nah its just getting a refund i wont get my insured air

[queen sigil]

darn

what if instead of having an HHKB where the mods are pushed closer to the space bar, they make the spacebar larger

[tight pulsar]

how about no

[queen sigil]

actually im korean

and these keycaps look kinda cool

but the english phont looks

terrible

[craggy canopy]

Guys which one is better: the Turtle Beach Recon 200 or the SteelSeries Arctis 3

[cerulean tangle]

arctis series has never been bad for me i’ve never tried the turtle beach but highly reccomend the steel series headphones

[sharp kindle]

holy crap that font should be illegal

[tacit wing]

wtf is that Valorant keycap set

lol

[queen sigil]

literally omen keycaps

[craggy canopy]

arctis series has never been bad for me i’ve never tried the turtle beach but highly reccomend the steel series headphones
@cerulean tangle ok thc

thx

[vivid stratus]

Anyone have experience with razer oranges? (Just please for once someone answer the question and not try to talk me into buying a custom lubed linear keybaord lmao.)

[tight pulsar]

ttc blueish whites if anybody needs a link https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.43.3fec4084UqkGVp&id=631226990253&ns=1&abbucket=9

[queen sigil]

Anyone have experience with razer oranges? (Just please for once someone answer the question and not try to talk me into buying a custom lubed linear keybaord lmao.)
@vivid stratus bad

razer switches have crazy stem wobble

[west hornet]

Can confirm ^

Lol

[tight pulsar]

deskeys films ez

[queen sigil]

ah yes filmin razer switches\

[abstract shard]

also, what? no they dont

im using a blackwidow elite rn with oranges and its my favourite keyboard of all time

no "crazy stem wobble"

??

[timber ridge]

sup

[tacit wing]

man

mfs cost more than a pair of Porta Pros 💀

[normal barn]

@tacit wing bro

[tacit wing]

VRO

[queen sigil]

im using a blackwidow elite rn with oranges and its my favourite keyboard of all time
@abstract shard lol how many keyboards have you owned

[abstract shard]

about 2

lmao

[queen sigil]

dang insane comparison

[abstract shard]

last one being a rip off blue switch keyboard

10/10 experience

lul

[sharp kindle]

i really want the new mountain everest keyboard for the detachable numpad that can be placed on both sides

but i could also just get a seperate numpad

hmmmmmmmm

[queen sigil]

isnt that like a 300$ weird modular keyboard

[tacit wing]

30 dollars for earpads. L

[timber ridge]

👀

[tacit wing]

these stock OEM pads are pissing me off

[tight pulsar]

for the 6xx?

[sharp kindle]

@queen sigil yep

[tacit wing]

58x/6xx pads are interchangeable

but yeah they both have the same pads out of the box

but the ones i bought right now are aftermarket from Drop

i just hope the foam integrity is better because the OEM ones just collapses

[queen sigil]

literally any tactile and lienar switch can beat blues

unless you put sand in them or something

dont praise a keyboard if its literally the second keyboard you've owned

[tight pulsar]

:( am i not allowed to praise my keyboard if its the second mechanical keyboard ive owned

[queen sigil]

ok nachos

ur different

[tacit wing]

yeah man i was about to say its ok to vouch for a product you have experience in

just maybe dont call it the best X thing off all time !!! pOG

[west hornet]

dekoni expensive

i know their foam iem tips are like 20-30usd

[tacit wing]

look at how malformed these look LMFAOOOOO

[queen sigil]

Don't call something your "fav keyboard of all time" if you haven't tried too many keyboards

or if you dont know what makes a keyboard good

[toxic forum]

yall every just steelseries

[queen sigil]

Huh?

[tacit wing]

Leo u sound like fortnut

[amber oracle]

@queen sigil cough do moderate the amount of bs you are pushing out please :)

[queen sigil]

sorry razer keyboards make me upset

[daring zenith]

Reddragon K552 is my "fav keyboard of all time"

[amber oracle]

no need to be a arse about it thou :)

[daring zenith]

because it's my only one :D

[tight pulsar]

@daring zenith idk man u hype the gmmk up i thought it would be ur fav :p

[tacit wing]

my stock pads now look like angled HM5's LMAOOOOO

[daring zenith]

@tight pulsar I don't have one so I can't actually tell ya

fr should I get a GMMK tho

:P

[amber oracle]

no

[queen sigil]

Id wait for reviews

[tight pulsar]

ive been thinking about picking up a hotswap pcb or cheap board and using it as a tester board hm

[amber oracle]

you should totally get this @daring zenith https://www.newegg.com/a4tech-my-kids-kbs-6000p-usb-or-ps-2-wired/p/N82E16823141003

[queen sigil]

Why not get like a macropad orr something

[amber oracle]

would fit you perfectly

[queen sigil]

NAED WHYD U GHAVE TO SEND THAT

I WAS GOING TO SAVE MY MONEY

[daring zenith]

got it thanks naed

[queen sigil]

NOW HOW AM I GOING TO SAVE MY MONEY WITH THAT

[tight pulsar]

wow look at that 1800 layout stepped caps lock great board

[queen sigil]

lol its a ps2 keyboard

[amber oracle]

your problem, my popcorn time @queen sigil

[queen sigil]

WOAH

[west hornet]

my pads are actually looking somewhat fine so far, just a indent where my glasses are

[timber ridge]

finally

[queen sigil]

THOSE KEYS
ARE LITERALLY TRIANGLES

[tacit wing]

you should totally get this @daring zenith https://www.newegg.com/a4tech-my-kids-kbs-6000p-usb-or-ps-2-wired/p/N82E16823141003
@amber oracle also dont forget to add this

endgame headphones

[daring zenith]

NO

NEVER

NO

I GET PC38X

and I WALK AWAY

[queen sigil]

I had a 20 minute rant on one of my servers about razer products

[amber oracle]

those are horrendous Crocs @timber ridge

[tacit wing]

IM IN TEARS

[queen sigil]

those are horrendous Crocs @timber ridge
LOL

[timber ridge]

crocs are goated

[tight pulsar]

we need hyperx to make cat ear cloud 2s

id buy

[timber ridge]

I use to spend so much on jordans n stuff

now I'm living the croc life

[tacit wing]

I use to spend so much on jordans n stuff
@timber ridge you are giving me ptsd

[queen sigil]

we need hyperx to make cat ear cloud 2s
@tight pulsar Bro we need cat ears keyboards

[timber ridge]

yea it was bad

[queen sigil]

like not keycaps

a case with cat ears

[tacit wing]

no Kraken Kitty edition?

[west hornet]

need cat ear

[amber oracle]

congrats on the crocs thou @timber ridge

[west hornet]

dw i will make first audiophile grade cat ear headphones

[timber ridge]

ty

my gf got me that pair

[amber oracle]

i can imagine the wait was long for that particular colour

[tight pulsar]

@west hornet cat ear tube amp

[queen sigil]

please tell me that doesnt exist

[west hornet]

yes ofc

[queen sigil]

[west hornet]

we have waifu pc now we with have waifu audio equipment

[queen sigil]

HatSunE MikU HeaDPHoNES

please tell me they didnt

make RGB cat ears

please

[sharp kindle]

wtf

bro what

ok

im not sure if ur trolling or not

[tacit wing]

well Razer makes RGB everything

they have RGB chair

[queen sigil]

is it really RGB

[tacit wing]

imo the only thing they make that isnt a meme is their mice

[queen sigil]

adym they got their 180$ miniITX case

[west hornet]

idk about razer but i have some rgb cat ear headphones somewhere 😉

[queen sigil]

it has 2 rgb strips of the bottom

[tacit wing]

Razer has all you need for an egirl setup

[timber ridge]

my gf had a pair of pinks ones

but she didn't like em and exchanged it for hyperx lol

[queen sigil]

wow gamer girl

[timber ridge]

razer headsets r so bulky

[queen sigil]

yes

the earcups are like stupid big

so if ur an elephant they'll fit you

[west hornet]

the earcups are also always uneven on my head

[timber ridge]

man

rip 2070s gang

[abstract shard]

Dayum @timber ridge what fans are those? They kinda look like the ezdiy fab one’s

[tacit wing]

nice build

[queen sigil]

looks like thermaltake

[timber ridge]

theyre some budget fans

but jus finished swapping out cards

[abstract shard]

Sounds like the ezdiy ones

Which are the ones I got

[sharp kindle]

how do the fans perform?

also really clean bro

[abstract shard]

They work really nice for me

[timber ridge]

same

[abstract shard]

Just one issue is that they’re pressed a little close together

[sharp kindle]

they could be the thermaltake ml120s

[abstract shard]

And you have to use really long radiator screws

And even then they have to be jammed in kinda

[sharp kindle]

hm oh

[abstract shard]

Because for some reason the holes aren’t threaded

[sharp kindle]

thats a pain

[abstract shard]

It’s $60 cad for the 5 pack tho

And comes with a co troller

*controller

[timber ridge]

with the new card

and i paid like 40 for 5 fans

[abstract shard]

Yea, that’s the boi I got just in usd prices

They’re really nice

Im Surprised more people don’t have vids on em

[abstract shard]

What even Is that

[tacit wing]

did u do surgery on a mouse

[last plinth]

Inside of rival 3

Yep

[tacit wing]

what was wrong with it

[abstract shard]

Ahhh

[last plinth]

The button was mushy

[tacit wing]

i do hope theyre sending you a new one

[last plinth]

I had to break it anyway because steelseries said so

yep

I said it was 45 when it was 30$

[tacit wing]

mushy buttons are common though

if theyre not Omrons, theyre most likely mushy

[last plinth]

On my right click

[timber ridge]

this 3070 op

[last plinth]

It was hard to click

Like press down

[timber ridge]

cant wait to play 1080p league of legends and valorant

[last plinth]

Sometimes it wouldnt register

[abstract shard]

I’m really excited to see what those fans are gonna look like behind a tinted window

[last plinth]

I think it was just dog hair that got in it somehow

[abstract shard]

Cause they look amazing in there

[tight pulsar]

wow gmk dracula is going through a 4th color matching phase for mods

[queen sigil]

wait

rly

[eternal beacon]

is the logitech g703 lightspeed and razer blackwidow lite a good combo?

are are they good peripherals alone

[queen sigil]

@eternal beacon I don't really think keyboard and mice work together they're really just how good they are as seperate peripherals

But if you had the option to get something besides the blackwidow, i'd recommend something else.

[eternal beacon]

like

[bronze depot]

yo can anybody give me a hand with picking a keyboard? I have no idea what to look for :/

[eternal beacon]

neither do i

[bronze depot]

oh ok

[queen sigil]

what switch do you like

[bronze depot]

im not experienced with switches sorry. But i am looking for something noticeable but not too loud

[daring zenith]

Aka. tactile and not clicky?

[queen sigil]

budget?

[bronze depot]

is 100 aud good for one?

thats about 70 usd

[queen sigil]

No clue the conversion rate from AUD to USD

HO

Oh

just find a keyboard with gateron brown switches

[bronze depot]

okay thanks mate have a good one

[daring zenith]

Smth similar to this maybe
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/yLGxFT/cooler-master-ck530-wired-gaming-keyboard-ck-530-gkgm1-us

[tacit wing]

is the logitech g703 lightspeed and razer blackwidow lite a good combo?
@eternal beacon one thing to note about the 703 is the battery life is not the best

but if the shape is for you, i think that compromise is worth it

[eternal beacon]

so comfortability over cosmetic and aspects of the mouse

[tacit wing]

yes, personally for me, i prioritize shape at the very top

when i look for a mouse

but then again there are alot of mice that are similar in shape as the 703

but not wireless though

[sharp kindle]

@eternal beacon dont get a blackwidow keeb

[eternal beacon]

what’s wrong with it

[sharp kindle]

well ur getting a g703

get a cheaper mouse

unless you really like the 703

and get a slightly better keeb

[last plinth]

Rival 3

[eternal beacon]

310?

[last plinth]

Rival 3 wireless even

[eternal beacon]

it has the same shape

[last plinth]

Wym 310

[sharp kindle]

310 what?

the g703 is 100 bucks right?

ur keeb is 90

[last plinth]

https://steelseries.com/gaming-mice/rival-3-wireless

[eternal beacon]

kinda looks like a deathadder from the sime

side

[sharp kindle]

you can get a deathadder mini

[last plinth]

Rival 3 is actual pog mouse

[sharp kindle]

depends on ur hand size

also what grip do u use?

[eternal beacon]

yeah i have pretty small hands

[sharp kindle]

for ur mouse

[eternal beacon]

normal?

i click the “clickers” with my fingertips

[sharp kindle]

like palm, claw or fingertip

[eternal beacon]

fingertip ig

[tacit wing]

fingertip pog

ONE OF US

Viper Mini or Model O-

[last plinth]

https://gearsearch.gg/shape?SteelSeries=Rival 3&Logitech=G703 Lightspeed

I recommend rival 3 wireless

[sharp kindle]

yep

[last plinth]

Up to you tho

[sharp kindle]

what dino said

wait hand size first

[last plinth]

Rival 3 is small shape

[eternal beacon]

so its smaller

um

[sharp kindle]

just measure ur hand with a ruler

if its below 18 cm

[tacit wing]

if you want holes go Model O-

[eternal beacon]

well you see

[tacit wing]

no holes Viper Mini

[sharp kindle]

get a model o- or viper mini

both are very good mice

[eternal beacon]

its kinda like 1:30 am

[sharp kindle]

oh

well

what mouse were u using before

[eternal beacon]

im pretty sure my hand is less than a foot and a half tho

ive never played pc

[sharp kindle]

not a foot and a half

18 cm

oh ok

gotcha

[eternal beacon]

12cm a foot

[sharp kindle]

so ur total peripherals budget is around 200 dollars?

[last plinth]

https://gearsearch.gg/shape?SteelSeries=Rival 3&Razer=Deathadder V2 Mini&Razer=Viper Mini

[sharp kindle]

no 30 cm a foot

[eternal beacon]

yeah around that

[last plinth]

Pepega

12cm a foot

[sharp kindle]

12 inches a foot lmao

[eternal beacon]

broooooo whaaaaaat

[sharp kindle]

are u high

[last plinth]

Honestly

[eternal beacon]

12cm a inch

[sharp kindle]

no bro

nonono

[last plinth]

Search it up

[tacit wing]

[eternal beacon]

so 124cm a foot

[sharp kindle]

this is freaking hilarious

lmao no

30 cm

[last plinth]

dude

[tacit wing]

this is not worth me time

[sharp kindle]

ur math is off

[last plinth]

Shut up

[sharp kindle]

bro

[eternal beacon]

small hands

[sharp kindle]

wtf

[last plinth]

just listen to us

Rival 3 wireless

50$

[sharp kindle]

get a viper mini or model o

nope

[eternal beacon]

so if my hand is smaller than my foot

[sharp kindle]

@last plinth he uses fingertip

[last plinth]

Extra 50$ u can spend on keyboard

[sharp kindle]

no not ur foot

a foot

[eternal beacon]

it goes from heel to beginning of toe

[sharp kindle]

bottom line

[last plinth]

Ur trolling

[sharp kindle]

get a razer viper mini

[eternal beacon]

ok

[last plinth]

Pepega Clap WR

[sharp kindle]

or a model o-

both are very good mice

up to you

[eternal beacon]

model o? isnt that the honeycomb one

[sharp kindle]

see which one you like better

yes

they have an o- version

thats a bit smaller

not much

[tacit wing]

for fingertip you dont need much of a hump

Model O and Viper are really flat mice

[eternal beacon]

good

[tacit wing]

so its good for ftip

[sharp kindle]

great for fingertip

[eternal beacon]

i enjoy my normal wrists

[sharp kindle]

get one of those

[eternal beacon]

not looking like this

[queen sigil]

j7j77hfu

[sharp kindle]

ok for keyboard ur open to much more

lmao

ok

[queen sigil]

wtf

[last plinth]

WutFace

[sharp kindle]

for keyboard you have 150 bucks

ur open to some options there

[tacit wing]

this guy is hilarious

[eternal beacon]

oh dang

[queen sigil]

I was watching youtube

i got bored

i check out this discord

and I see this

[eternal beacon]

wait no

[sharp kindle]

lmao

[eternal beacon]

g703 is 70$

[queen sigil]

the ehll

[eternal beacon]

so like 150 for peripherals

[sharp kindle]

scroll up @queen sigil

oh

welp

ok

[eternal beacon]

who needs ram

pft

[sharp kindle]

everyone?

[eternal beacon]

not when you can have a poggers keyboard

[sharp kindle]

i thought u were getting the wireless g703 sorry

[tacit wing]

i dont suggest a 703 if your TOTAL budget for peripherals is $150

[sharp kindle]

get the viper mini in this case

its 10 dollars cheaper

[eternal beacon]

ok

[sharp kindle]

so that leaves 110 for keeb

glorious gmmk?

it comes with gat browns

an ok tactile switch

full rgb

[queen sigil]

gk61 pogers

[eternal beacon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kQ3H99/logitech-g703-lightspeed-wireless-optical-mouse-910-005638

[sharp kindle]

its a good starter cause its hotswap

[eternal beacon]

its 60

the glorious gmnm

gmnm

gmnk

[sharp kindle]

dont get the g703

[eternal beacon]

ill look for it

[sharp kindle]

go to pcgamingrace.com

[neon quartz]

fortnut#7992 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[queen sigil]

no

go get a gk61

[daring zenith]

@ nachos someone's reccomending a gmmk

:D

[sharp kindle]

gk61 is good if he wants 60 percent

[queen sigil]

what does he want

[eternal beacon]

gaterade brown

[sharp kindle]

@eternal beacon do u want full size tkl or 60 percent

[thick plank]

@tacit wing I just checked and I was wrong to say dekoni pads might be a good solution. Apparently on the 650 they ruin upper mids and make the 650 all around just a bad headset

[eternal beacon]

not a full size

[sharp kindle]

so tkl or 60 percent

which one

[eternal beacon]

tkl

[sharp kindle]

get a glorious gmmk

[eternal beacon]

ok

[sharp kindle]

https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/gmmk-tkl-tenkeyless-brown-switch

there

dont customize

[queen sigil]

get a 75% keyboard

its cooler

[eternal beacon]

and the logitech g733 should be fine

[daring zenith]

Gmmk pro looks nice tbh

[eternal beacon]

its a headset

[queen sigil]

gmmk is

[sharp kindle]

gmmk pro very nice

[queen sigil]

so much bad

[sharp kindle]

if you want to build a very good keeb

[queen sigil]

its scum

[sharp kindle]

but not spend a ton of money

[queen sigil]

gmmk pro is like

super scum

[sharp kindle]

@queen sigil its not bad

legit

at least for tkl and full size

60 percent not worth it

[eternal beacon]

asceny one

[sharp kindle]

but tkl and fullsize gmmk is good

they updated the stabs

[eternal beacon]

amazon tells me is a good one

[sharp kindle]

made it usb c

[queen sigil]

They copy the design of an expensive limited addition keyboard

[last plinth]

They need to make 65%

Ong

[tacit wing]

@thick plank i passed on the Dekonis and got Drop's replacement pads instead. It will change sound signature no doubt but I just want something that has better structural integrity than the OEM ones

[sharp kindle]

@last plinth the pro is 75 percent

[eternal beacon]

what if they made a 100% keyboard

[queen sigil]

then advertise the hell out of it

[sharp kindle]

well

you cant blame them

its like shape clones in mice

[daring zenith]

Idc if they copied it, and their advertisement

[sharp kindle]

right?

[daring zenith]

As long as it's good

[last plinth]

WAIT OMG

I WANT THE GMMK PRO

[thick plank]

@tacit wing the replacement pads on drop are dekoni pads...

[sharp kindle]

ok

ur gonna be poor very soon cntrl

as soon as you get an ok keyboard its hard to go back

[queen sigil]

he cant even afford any of it

[sharp kindle]

very hard

[thick plank]

What you want is stock replacement pads sold by sennheiser

[queen sigil]

he's 13

[sharp kindle]

well

he oculd afford a 2500 dollar pc

and

[queen sigil]

its like window shopping

[sharp kindle]

a 500 dollar audio setup

he cut down on the pc

so he can

and im assuming hes rich

[timber ridge]

he must be

[sharp kindle]

or some wack stuff like that

[last plinth]

I didnt cut down on pc

[tacit wing]

not sure these are Dekonis

[timber ridge]

at 13 i would not even consider something over 1000 dollars

[queen sigil]

Last time I checked he said he'll get an audio setup once he gets a job

[eternal beacon]

is 31inches for 1080p bad

[last plinth]

40$?!??!

[tacit wing]

but other Dekoni pads are still on Drop

[eternal beacon]

itll still be smooth right?

[tacit wing]

just not 600 series pads @thick plank

[timber ridge]

dekoni goated

[last plinth]

@sharp kindle will gmmk pro be sold in not barebones

[sharp kindle]

they said

in a reddit ama

[timber ridge]

you can prob buy it with their switches

[sharp kindle]

they will have a pbt caps upgrade set

[queen sigil]

It's hotswap

[sharp kindle]

for like 30-40 bucks

[last plinth]

is that it

[queen sigil]

why woudlnt you just buy barebones

[sharp kindle]

but you have to add switches

[queen sigil]

and get ur own switches and caps

[last plinth]

BRUH

ruined

[timber ridge]

?

[sharp kindle]

its designed to be appealing for people who want customs

[last plinth]

Idk where to buy switches and caps

[timber ridge]

thats the best part

it being hotswap

[sharp kindle]

its designed to undercut expensive keyboard kits out there

thats why

[timber ridge]

and you picking the stuff

[queen sigil]

and for people who missed sat75

[sharp kindle]

for the price its amazing

still have to wati to see about the GOAT stabs though

[timber ridge]

its screw in

[sharp kindle]

yes but still

they could be crap

still cntrl i would say be modest with ur first build and stuff

just get a solid keeb

a solid mouse

[queen sigil]

I mean for that price you could get everything else forr the build

including stabs

for ra decent price

because 170$ just for a pcb,plate, and case is a good deal if it's a GB

[sharp kindle]

and a pc that can get decent fps on esports titles

thats why the gmmk pro is so appealing

[last plinth]

Theres also a freaking WHEEL

POGGGERS

[timber ridge]

knob lol

[sharp kindle]

your like

not gonna use it a lot

[queen sigil]

yeah the knob is more of an aesthetic choice

[sharp kindle]

tbh

it has functionality

[timber ridge]

custom knobs op

[queen sigil]

it's just trying to capatalize on the sat75 as much as possible

[sharp kindle]

still mad props to glorious

[queen sigil]

no

its scum

[sharp kindle]

why

ok

u need to understand

its just like mouse shape clones

[queen sigil]

they literally just copied a really good design

like mice I don't carer

[sharp kindle]

and i could give less of an f about their advertising

[queen sigil]

since mice aren't limited

[sharp kindle]

so?

[queen sigil]

they're rcopying like a rare design

[sharp kindle]

its smart

thats a smart move

and tbh

if i was a company

i would be doing what glorious is doing

[queen sigil]

Yeah because it makes money

[sharp kindle]

finding parts of niche communities that i can exploit

ofc

[neon quartz]

Leoinatorz#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tacit wing]

i kinda see two sides of the same coin

[sharp kindle]

they did that with the gmmk pro

[timber ridge]

same dino

[tacit wing]

youre giving up innovation for a smart business move

[sharp kindle]

i wont deny it is a bit uncreative

actually

very not creative

but they are a business

[queen sigil]

like i'd be fine if they had gasket mount etc

but the fact that they straight up copy an entire keyboard

[sharp kindle]

and from a business standpoint glorious is being very smart

[queen sigil]

like they stole basically the entire design

from a smallerr company

for profit

[tacit wing]

but the fact that they straight up copy an entire keyboard
@queen sigil you shouldnt be surprised since theyve been copying mice this entire time

[sharp kindle]

well was the smalle rcompanie's design limited edition

like a group buy

[queen sigil]

yes

it was

[tacit wing]

Glorious is noooo stranger to copying things

[queen sigil]

and a really limited one

[sharp kindle]

Glorious is noooo stranger to copying things
@tacit wing yes thats what makes them a good business from a business standpoint

[tacit wing]

yes and i get it

[timber ridge]

i mean, there is already a few clones of the satis75

[sharp kindle]

you need to understand that glorious is trying to compete with the top dogs of peripherals

[timber ridge]

like the evolv 75

[queen sigil]

but mice arent limited or rare products

[sharp kindle]

but introduce something new

[timber ridge]

and serenity 65

[sharp kindle]

they are trying to introduce custom keyboards

to the massive tech corporations

like razer corsair hyperx etc

and Mountain is doing that too

and glorious did that with lightweight mice

arguably

they introduced lightweight mice to the market

and now your seeing more and more companies do lightweight mice

[tacit wing]

i guess you can say theyre trying to mass market enthusiast boards not limited to groupbuys

[queen sigil]

Like other clones im fine with

[sharp kindle]

i understand that it is scummy

[queen sigil]

since they're like limited GBs

[sharp kindle]

but bro

its hard as a business

[timber ridge]

bruh

[sharp kindle]

growing up my dad started his own tech company

and ik that it is hard out there

props to glorius for being smart

thats my point

[timber ridge]

this reminds me when epic games was re releasing skins and whales got mad that their skin was no longer rare

[sharp kindle]

they are being a smart business

[tacit wing]

mass market custom keebs pog

[sharp kindle]

and honestly

the whole group buy thing

for mech keebs

i understand

but you need to understand

that if you put out group buys and your product is good

someone is bound to copy your design

[tacit wing]

mfs just need to hire some lawyers and Glorious is kaput

[sharp kindle]

again

i agree

that

its not the greatest thing to do

but im talking from a business standpoint

and from that standpoin they are geniuses

[queen sigil]

you i mean you could copy luxury clothing brands and make profit

[sharp kindle]

listening to their community

[queen sigil]

and thats a great money maker

[sharp kindle]

china

and taobao

seller there sell fake luxury clothes

also

sneaker resells

and streetwear

what glorious is doing is very similar

[queen sigil]

and like nachos said before their advertising is just really

[sharp kindle]

they see what the community likes and is doing it

but making it more available for the public

[queen sigil]

m

[tacit wing]

this is a bad analogy bc i dont like the man. but its kinda like the same thing when Kanye said he plans to make Yeezy's general sale

as in available in retail stores like Footlocker

[sharp kindle]

well you cant deny that would be a pretty baller business move

[queen sigil]

i dont care about how good it is for buisness

[tacit wing]

[sharp kindle]

ok

well in that case

[queen sigil]

you could make a sat75 clone for half the price and sell it for half the price

[sharp kindle]

u win

cause i def agree

with you

[queen sigil]

sell it off in mass

[sharp kindle]

it is scummy

but it is balls to the wall hard as a smaller business

that is up and coming

like glorious was

when they made the gmmk

[queen sigil]

like its fine when they chose to clone major corperations

in terms of mice etc

but when they start to rip off smaller projects and basically destroy a portion of the market

[sharp kindle]

but they are also forcing them to get more creative

[queen sigil]

thats kinda scum for people working on 75% keyboards

[sharp kindle]

and forcing them to step it up

and make a unique product

or

force them to lower their prices a bit

[tacit wing]

but when they start to rip off smaller projects and basically destroy a portion of the market
@queen sigil well thats what lawyers are for

[sharp kindle]

and give more incentive to buying tha

t

[queen sigil]

the reason the price is so high on the sat75 is becauee it has alot of people who want to buy it

[tacit wing]

or attorneys

[sharp kindle]

i can see this right now are amd vs intel

where amd (glorious) used to be below

but now that they have upped their game

to appeal to a niche crowd

[queen sigil]

but they basically just got rid of alot of people who's gonna buy other 75% with gaps that arent into keyboards for the unique boards

[sharp kindle]

intel

has to work to create a better product

no but what if someone wants a good keyboard but doesnt wanna pay 500 or above for it

thats where glorious comes in

[tacit wing]

no but what if someone wants a good keyboard but doesnt wanna pay 500 or above for it
@sharp kindle yo i might cop ngl

[sharp kindle]

leo i see your point

but i dont see why you are so upset about it

its about competition

someone undercuts your price

[timber ridge]

dino u copping the gmmk pro ?

[sharp kindle]

and makes a very comparable product>

[tacit wing]

im no keyboard man but i need save some change for my headphones but i also dont want a pre-built keeb

[sharp kindle]

that forces the other person who got undercut

to work harder

and create a very good end product

that they can reasonably say is worth the extra money

[tacit wing]

dino u copping the gmmk pro ?
@timber ridge potentially

[queen sigil]

youre saying that like its big keyboard company vs big leyboard company

[sharp kindle]

no

im saying

glorious is being very very VERY smart rn

they are creating a product

[queen sigil]

i dont care

[sharp kindle]

that even beats

[queen sigil]

if theyre smart

[sharp kindle]

customs to an extent

[timber ridge]

if reviews are good

gg

[sharp kindle]

and that creates competition

no my point is

this is good for the keyboard scene

[queen sigil]

they could copy a diffent keyboard and cut the price in half

[sharp kindle]

if glorious' product is good

but it forces people hosting group buys to be more creative and add some jazz to their products

so they can justify the higher price

[amber oracle]

reviews does not have to be good for it to sell

do keep that in mind

[sharp kindle]

there are so many analogies for this

but the point is

this creates more competition

with big companies

and smaller group buy hosts

[queen sigil]

wxcept they arent big companies

its a big company cuttinf prices to unreasonable standards for people to release items in drops

[tacit wing]

do enthusiasts really expect the keyboard scene to be as exclusive as they are right now?

[queen sigil]

because no other small team can make a gasket mounted keyboard with a knob for that price

[tacit wing]

as far as i can see the hobby is ever so growing

[amber oracle]

depends on who you ask @tacit wing

[sharp kindle]

i can see some people still buying those group buys

bvecause they dont want to support a big company

[queen sigil]

so theyre just killing the competition making the people who buy GBs just people who want it for specific aspects

[sharp kindle]

like going to a farmer's market

where you are supporting the creator directly and getting a product thats slightly higher quality for a higher price

cause im predicting

the group buys

will still have a higher quality product

[amber oracle]

and also, dont forget, a fair deal of companies have bugger all shipping presence outside of the US

the groupbuys have "solved" that for them for a long time

my ergodox would have cost triple the amount if i didnt go through massdrop for the first one

[queen sigil]

like when it comes to the normal gmmk, there's cheaper lower quality products that do the exact same

[sharp kindle]

ok i gtg for the night

?

[queen sigil]

but now theyre trying to set the minimul bar

[sharp kindle]

its lower quality

in general

people want higher quality

and if they have to pay more they will take it

ok i gtg for the night

this was a good debate

[tacit wing]

good talk

[sharp kindle]

very good

cyall tomorrow

hopefully this will continue to be a tlaking point in this channel

its a very good debate topic

where both sides have good points

[queen sigil]

TL;dr glorious made cheap keyboard and theyre kinda scum

[tacit wing]

[runic trail]

https://www.amazon.ca/DREVO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Tenkeyless-Programming/dp/B0789JPDRB/ref=pd_sbs_147_3/139-1787749-2499566?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0789JPDRB&pd_rd_r=1afe9604-bdbc-4c93-aff4-a2748af0475a&pd_rd_w=VCGCh&pd_rd_wg=08BUJ&pf_rd_p=157bf57f-c631-4c94-85b4-572e1809a383&pf_rd_r=3CYKT70W281JJVCS1ERB&psc=1&refRID=3CYKT70W281JJVCS1ERB

thinking of getting this keyboard

thoughts?

[grand zinc]

@runic trail looks pretty solid

go for it

[runic trail]

okey dokey

thx!

[lyric hinge]

Sound cards - worth it or nah?

[west hornet]

depends on the headphones, i use external soundcards

[brisk parcel]

@lyric hinge I had a sound blasterx that I used for 2 years and it was pretty nice. the G6 external one. if you have a gaming headset it's nice because you don't have to buy a separate mic and you'll be good to go

I use a separate DAC and AMP now but I still use the G6 for my planars cause the tubes can get a little distorted

[tepid mist]

I'm looking for iems and a lot of reviews say the tin hifi t2's are good for the price, but I'm not sure if I should go for the t2 or t2 pro

any thoughts?

[west hornet]

the pros have more in the high end iirc

[tepid mist]

hmm

i mean it's only like $10 more so if they sound slightly better then i guess i will get them

[west hornet]

idk that it sounds better, just has more in the high frequencies. more on personal preference

[tepid mist]

hmm

i mean I like neutral headphones so i can hear everything

[west hornet]

i personally use the non pros for travel use

[tepid mist]

how do you like them?

[west hornet]

i like the sound from them, i prefered listening to soundtracks and some pop on them rather than edm or metal. i really like the cable tho it can get tangled sometimes. They don't fit my ear the best and sadly the included foam tips were a bit too big on me and im currently useing the smallest silicon tips lol

i have been using them ~10hrs a week recently

[normal barn]

@tacit wing

yo

u fit this description

lol

that u

[tight pulsar]

amount of times this photo has been posted in this channel is not at about 4

[west hornet]

language smg

[abstract shard]

SMG??

[last plinth]

BWHAHAHAHAHA CHOLAX UR SO FUNNY

i peed

[normal barn]

hmmm

what

ctrlkey

why cntrl and not ctrl lol

[queen sigil]

thinking of getting this keyboard
@runic trail wouldnt recommend a keybkard with autemu switches for that price

actually thats 75cdn not usd

nbm

nvm

[sharp kindle]

ngl that keyboard doesnt look bad

but it all hinges on the stabs

outtemu switches aren't exactly horribl

e

[brisk parcel]

@tacit wing let me know what you think of them

Then we can talk about them

[west hornet]

You guys keep talking about keyboards, it make me think if I want new keyboard

[amber oracle]

thats the point Ghost

[sharp kindle]

talking about a keyboard that i cant afford

very nice

i wanted the sat 75

but now im happy i didnt jump on the gb