peripherals-and-displays

[tight pulsar]

hm no

[amber oracle]

(its a abandoned project now, with most dead picture links on geekhack)

[tight pulsar]

this? https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44940.1700

[amber oracle]

aye

http://xahlee.info/kbd/axios_keyboard.html

some of the in-dev pictures of different styles

the concept was very very very interesting

[tight pulsar]

yeah looks interesting

[amber oracle]

and yes, i know, its NOT a gamer keyboard

but for a heavy typer? oh boy!

[tight pulsar]

gaemer ergo board :v

@amber oracle since u have an ergodox, what are ur thoughts on an alice style keyboard?

[amber oracle]

thats the "wave" style one right?

[tight pulsar]

yeah

[amber oracle]

i have tried to NOT think about it too much

[amber oracle]

because its not like i actually NEED another keyboard

does that answer your question?

[tight pulsar]

hm

i was thinking more about the ergonomics since u use an ergo board than owning one

[amber oracle]

without mapping it out, which is the preferred way of testing things like that (ergonomics)

i would say its angled a bit weird on the sides

[tight pulsar]

like the wsx column?

[amber oracle]

mainly for this reason

your pinky likes stretching

and the Alice seems to want to keep your pinky slightly bent

but i would have to map it, as i said above, to really have something to say on it

[tight pulsar]

ic

[amber oracle]

you get what i mean with the pinky btw?

[tight pulsar]

kinda

are u talking about where the keyboard goes from normal to tilted inward?

[amber oracle]

i am talking about the highlighted areas on both sides

see the black line?

if the keys under that (and the other rows below that) was closer to the red/orange line? i would be much more supportive of that design

but again, that is just eyeballing it

[tight pulsar]

okay so yeah thats kinda what i was thinking

[amber oracle]

and for something like that, mapping it out is 100% the smart thing to do

[tight pulsar]

lol

[amber oracle]

aye, that is closer to a "natural" curve

the alice "looks" like it has a "break" in the shape

[tight pulsar]

ya

that one actually has research into the curve its pretty interesting

[amber oracle]

look up Obra if you are interested in wonky

he is the one with a trackball in the middle

(and not the small trackball either)

[tight pulsar]

oh yeah ive seen ones like that

like this right

[amber oracle]

aye

there is one that has a red ball and its polished wood for the case

i might have the wrong name thou

[tight pulsar]

yeah ive seen a lot of the ones with just a standalone trackball in the middle

something like this

[amber oracle]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/kurplop/sets/72157633538408496/

there we go

[graceful jetty]

I got the sub working! This is what I did in the end: speaker out from amp -> sub sub's speaker out -> speakers

Thanks for the help :)

[sturdy barn]

Looks like a bat. That keyboard mouse ball thing.

[iron vale]

That looks so strange

[weary lodge]

Step 1: Acquire switches.

Step 2: Wait for everything else to eventually show up in the mail.

[grand chasm]

is g413 a good budget mechanical option?

[calm cobalt]

are the stock keycaps on the huntsman mini good

[static garnet]

Yes

[sharp kindle]

yes they are good

[calm cobalt]

ok

[twilit solstice]

lmao my teacher got that rgb headset

[hollow pond]

ayo

my dt 990s kinda stink since i got them used

im able to wash the earpads but what about the inside of them?

[amber oracle]

you could pull them apart and try to clean them

look at some of the mod tutorials for them

and you should find the info you need for pulling them apart there @hollow pond

[hollow pond]

okay thx

ya i looked it up and i was more than sure you could clean the velour but idk about the foam that covers the diaphram

[last plinth]

Desk reccomendations?

[amber oracle]

whichever works for your particular room

and requirements ofc

[last plinth]

63”

[iron vale]

I use a cheap Ikea table top and tbh it's perfectly adequate

[calm cobalt]

What's the best mechanical keyboard that can plug into xbox and pc?

[tight pulsar]

otd 356 mini

[iron vale]

No

For some reason every pro recording studio I've ever been in has one.

But to be fair they also all have Macs and Protools.

[prime brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225011681527463937/756701103856418846/unknown.png

Felt sick pressing buy, but I'm starting to feel better now.

[iron vale]

Honestly, that's solid stuff for the price

You could have gotten a direct drive wheel for that, but no pedals or handbrake

I think for slightly less than a grand you can't really beat that kit

[west hornet]

I see some use trackpads

I guess easier since you don’t have to move it much

[calm cobalt]

i have a turtle beach earforce x12 and the mic is dieing and speaker quality is starting to not be as good but they are comfortable so :p

[toxic scroll]

Is it dumb to use a 103€ mouse with a 200€ laptop?

[proper sphinx]

103 for a g502?!

[tacit wing]

Is it dumb to use a 103€ mouse with a 200€ laptop?
@toxic scroll bro u got finessed

that mouse is like $50 USD

[primal ridge]

hello guys i have razer viper ultime and also have some battery issue with it not charging properly so im confused abouth change it should i cross g pro wireless?

[calm cobalt]

dumb question

do switches have to be re-lubed? if so how often do i have to re-lube them?

[tight pulsar]

no

[tacit wing]

hello guys i have razer viper ultime and also have some battery issue with it not charging properly so im confused abouth change it should i cross g pro wireless?
@primal ridge g pro wireless are notorious for having their omron switches double-clicking. best to stray away from both mice if you really want to be safe

though alot of people are installing after market Kailh switches to their GPW and youll have a perfect mouse

[toxic scroll]

that mouse is like $50 USD
Welcome to the italian reality

And to be honest i didn't even paid for it

They were throwing it away and i took it, it sometimes clicks the middle button at random but apart from that everything is fine

[tacit wing]

the scroll wheel is suppose to click side to side just so you know

thats a feature on the 502

[primal ridge]

@tacit wing so i ll go for deathadder v2 mini cuz not necessary for paying to much broken product

[tacit wing]

@tacit wing so i ll go for deathadder v2 mini cuz not necessary for paying to much broken product
@primal ridge good mouse. im viper mini gang myself

[primal ridge]

little bit feels bad for let it behind wireless 😦

[tacit wing]

this is exactly why i havent switched to wireless yet

i feel like if do make the switch itll be hard for me to go back wired

[primal ridge]

u know what razer products really feels cheap materials i dunno why techs are good but plastic materials kinda low priced

[tacit wing]

my viper mini is built like a tank compared to other lightweight mice with holes on them

[primal ridge]

yeah i had glorious model they did with cable issue then i throw away this mouse too

also i have coolmaster m710

currently viper ultimate

im spending tons of money for mice

[tacit wing]

the old glorious cables are not very good i heard

though ive heard nothing but good things about their new Ascended cable

[primal ridge]

there is no second chance for this company

[tacit wing]

whats wrong with your mm710?

i heard its hit or miss for that mouse

[primal ridge]

nothing

when viper comes i switched again

kinda fantasy for me

[tacit wing]

it sucks hearing about Viper Ult charging issues

[primal ridge]

yeah dude

[tacit wing]

for that price it should be perfect

150 usd

[primal ridge]

sometime i let it be charge then im coming 1 percent up barely

imagine that

[tacit wing]

what if you charge the mouse by the cord and not the dock?

[primal ridge]

i tried

didnt work

u need dock for it

sucks

[tacit wing]

wait doesnt it have a usb-c port?

the viper ult?

[primal ridge]

no

😦

150 $ btw

[tacit wing]

what if u charge it like that

[primal ridge]

cant charge only working not charging

maybe they have v2 witout charging dock

i have dock and not charging witout dock

[tacit wing]

so it doesnt work either way?

[primal ridge]

yup

so many ppl crying about this issue

thats why i thougt to swithc to gpw

[tacit wing]

look up GPW double-clicking

alot of issues as well

[primal ridge]

yeah until logitech leave the omron switchs not gonna buy acutally

[tacit wing]

i have friend that switch from Viper Ultimate to GPW and it started doubleclicking at 2 weeks old

[primal ridge]

hmmm

[tacit wing]

its funny bc he had the same issue as you with the Viper

[primal ridge]

same thought with me

what u think should i give chance for viper mini ?

[tacit wing]

if you like the mm710 yes

[primal ridge]

i likes smol mice

[tacit wing]

i think the back hump on mm710 is bigger

[primal ridge]

yeah think so

also dont have rgb

[tacit wing]

Viper Mini is smaller in length than Ultimate but its actually taller than Ultimate

Mini has a more pronounced hump

but mini is also skinnier in width

[primal ridge]

for ergonomi ?

yeah 62 gr

[tacit wing]

62 grams is good weight for no holes

[primal ridge]

hump hight bothering u ?

[tacit wing]

not really. i use fingertip grip

[primal ridge]

me too

[tacit wing]

its a perfect fingertip mouse

[primal ridge]

ok dude im hyped

what abouth quality then

[tacit wing]

no creaks at all

built like a tank

[primal ridge]

viper clicks squeaking

[tacit wing]

also the side buttons on the Mini sticks out more than the Ultimate

[primal ridge]

yeah heard that

[tacit wing]

heres a comparison of size and shape

ultimate is blue

mini is green

pretty sick huh

[primal ridge]

does it make much differance ?

sizes

[tacit wing]

well idk i havent owned Ultimate

but i find that i aim better with smaller mouse

[primal ridge]

what u play

[tacit wing]

csgo

i used to play valorant but i uninstall lol

what about u?

[primal ridge]

i ordered now

[tacit wing]

lol nice

[primal ridge]

im playing division and cod

im not competive btw

but just wanna have best one 😄

[tacit wing]

i feel like the Viper Mini paracord is good enough for it to feel wireless

u didnt like deathadder v2 mini?

[primal ridge]

i ordered deathadder v2 mini

[tacit wing]

that mouse comes with grip tape if ur into that

[primal ridge]

im shroud then 😄

[primal ridge]

is it yours ?

[tacit wing]

naw lol

i dont think im gonna buy another mouse for a long time

[primal ridge]

good for u

[tacit wing]

this is mine

[primal ridge]

i wish i be like u

good reminder

i need 915 tkl

logitech

i have k70 mk2 low profile

[tacit wing]

that keyboard look clean

i have not tried a low profile keyboard yet

[primal ridge]

yeah but %60 too small for me

i aiming slient

[tacit wing]

i use TKL and 60%

i cant go fullsize bc i love mouse room

[primal ridge]

yeah im not even using numpad

wrong choice

[neon quartz]

Akhenaton#6935 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[primal ridge]

😦

logitech too expensive

[tacit wing]

the 915 is like more than 200 dollars no?

[primal ridge]

yeah

229

hot af

[tacit wing]

i cant get into wireless keyboards bc i like the look of coiled cables

[primal ridge]

😄

[tacit wing]

i just ordered this one

[primal ridge]

also u can use with cable but not coiled

[tacit wing]

yeah but i love the look of coiled

[primal ridge]

what is this hub

for keyboard ?

[tacit wing]

yeah

[primal ridge]

back to 2005 😄

[tacit wing]

LOOL

i think it looks nice

[primal ridge]

looks like heavy duty

if u like no need word

[tacit wing]

i feel like this coiled cable or wireless is the best look for keyboard setups

the 915 is out of my budget tho 😦

[primal ridge]

wireless also have charging issue

[tacit wing]

for g915? ive heard not issues about the 915

[primal ridge]

i mean

need charge sometimes

[tacit wing]

yeah thats a sacrifice

[primal ridge]

after 2 day maybe

😄

but also u can use with cable

[tacit wing]

u can turn off RGB on the 915 and save a ton of battery life

[primal ridge]

i would go for cable cuz cable size realyy thin

turn off rgb ???????? what did i pay for 😄

[tacit wing]

man i thought u didnt care about RGB lol

also dont have rgb
@primal ridge LOOK

[primal ridge]

of course i dont care but with out any light on keyboard looks bad

not like any other compatenet of pc

[tacit wing]

true

[primal ridge]

keyboard need light speacially nights

[tacit wing]

what is ur keyboard right now?

[primal ridge]

k70 mk2 low profile

really solid one

[tacit wing]

ur trying to go TKL?

[tight pulsar]

lol coiled cable it may not be the best thing to buy but they look nice

[primal ridge]

yeah tkl good for my desk need space

[tacit wing]

lol coiled cable it may not be the best thing to buy but they look nice
@tight pulsar yes. idk what im doing with a coiled cable that almost cost as much as my pre-built

[primal ridge]

really are they expensive ?

[tacit wing]

for what they are yeah. i paid 65 for mine and its purely just aesthetic

[tight pulsar]

usually like 50+ or 150 with lemo

[primal ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/infinity-war-avengers-gamora-kid-what-did-it-cost-gamora-gif-12978287

[tacit wing]

my coiled cable is more pricey than my Viper Mini

[primal ridge]

imagine paying 65 bucks and keep avoid from tkl 😄

[tacit wing]

ok to be fair the usb cable most pre-builts comes with dont look too good in my opinion

[primal ridge]

what is the brand of keyboard

hyper x ?

[tacit wing]

well i own a hyper x TKL and a ducky 60% keeb

but the coiled cable i ordered came from a company called Kalamity Cables

[primal ridge]

what abouth the click sound do u making ppl crazy when u type 😄

[tacit wing]

oh naw i dont like clicky blue switches

[primal ridge]

blue sucks man

[tacit wing]

im used to brown tactiles although they feel like linears lol

i have only used tactiles and linears

[primal ridge]

linears good

tactiles for gamers ?

[tacit wing]

well i game and type on my keebs

i like linears for gaming but not typing

[primal ridge]

gamers only use w a d s

[stone elk]

anyone mind answering a quick question bc I'm too indecisive to figure this out myself?

[tacit wing]

yes?

keep in mind im no keeb expert but i know some stuff about mice lol

[primal ridge]

so i mean u dont need the god roll for it

@stone elk what was the question

[stone elk]

haha I'm just debating on whether or not to buy a webcam. I know you can also use a phone and I have an old iphone 6 I don't use much but in terms of temp adjustments and positioning a webcam seems better in that regard

[primal ridge]

logitech have good options for it u can check for ur budget

[tacit wing]

if ur in a budget just pick a generic one from amazon lol

[primal ridge]

anyways thanks for suggest dino have a good night

[tacit wing]

alright man cya

hope u enjoy ur new mouse @primal ridge

[primal ridge]

ill let u know news abouth new one D

😄

[tacit wing]

i got an ultrawide no brand webcam from Amazon and its good enough for my Zoom classes

[stone elk]

mkay cool! Thank you guys :)

[cunning hearth]

Hey guys do u recommend gk61 with gat yellow optical switches or glorious gmmk with kailh speed silvers?

[tacit wing]

no experience with those keebs but i can tell you i thought about getting a GMMK and later finding out its mini USB

[cunning hearth]

Oof but i think the white ice version has usb c

Wut tkl keyboard u recommend for under 150?

[tacit wing]

ok well im no keyboard expert

but i just got an alloy origins core from HyperX for 65 dollars lol

they got a sale going on

[daring zenith]

What's wrong with mini usb :(

[tacit wing]

oh its just bc my coiled cable is usb-c lol

i thought about getting a GMMK but its not C but i just found out the white version is lol

[cunning hearth]

Yea

[sharp kindle]

@tacit wing glorious gmmk is usb c now

black and white i think

[tacit wing]

why the reviews show its still mini USB damn

i shouldve know better

[sharp kindle]

really idk either

[cunning hearth]

Im debating over gat optical yellows or kailh speed silvers and i rlly dont know which one tk get

[sharp kindle]

someone said it ahs usbc now in glorious disc

so

idk

Wut tkl keyboard u recommend for under 150?
@cunning hearth Glorious GMMK lol

i have white ice which has usbc and its really good

[cunning hearth]

K

[sharp kindle]

i also have a Drop ALT which is really expensive

[cunning hearth]

Which switches u got?

[sharp kindle]

(its technically a 65 percent but)

i have halo trues in my drop alt

and default browns in the glorious board

[cunning hearth]

Oh k

Ig ill get some cherry speed silvers or kailh silvers and pop them in the gmmk

[sharp kindle]

nice

[tight pulsar]

hm should i ask for a update on my keyboard

i wanna but i dont wanna disturb yz if hes busy

[west hornet]

demand for status update

[sturdy barn]

Sooooo what mouse and keyboard does everyone use?

[cursive marsh]

Mouse

And keyboard 😎

My keyboard is a slim thinkpad style Lenovo and my mouse is a 2013 Razer Deathadder

Otherwise known as mouse and keyboard 😎 🔥

[tight pulsar]

do u really want me to answer that question

[west hornet]

Blackwidow v2 + viper

[tight pulsar]

modulus60 with aluminum half plate, everglide sakura pinks spring swapped to 63.5g SPRiT, deskeys switch films, lubed with 205g0 and cherry topped, everglide stabilizers lubed with 205g0 on the housings and wires all on a plain60c flex edition with crp tulip R3 when they come and a model o

[west hornet]

and a model o

[tight pulsar]

yeah

priorities

[sharp kindle]

i have a drop alt with halo trues and a model o. I also sometimes use the gpw depending on feeling

[last plinth]

I heard g pro wireless is like rng

Cuz u might get one with problems or not

[sharp kindle]

mine is ok

but theres a really high chance you get one that double clicks

cause logi used wack chinese omrons

[last plinth]

yea

imma get the shroud edition

you think its gonna have problems

[sharp kindle]

logi is a hit or miss for the gpw

[calm cobalt]

Is a 1440p 165hz monitor good for a r7 3700x and 3080?

[sharp kindle]

@last plinth just get the Glorious Model O wireless thats coming out soon

@calm cobalt yes

[calm cobalt]

Damn wrong chat my bad lol

[sharp kindle]

np

[last plinth]

Glorious model o wireless

[calm cobalt]

Meant to click on displays 😂

[last plinth]

idk if its worth

[sharp kindle]

its 80 bucks

really cheap

and its supposed to be really good

[last plinth]

Would rather get wired

[sharp kindle]

well then why are you getting a gpw?

you know that the g pro wireless

is wireless right?

lol

[last plinth]

Yea

Cuz pros use it

[sharp kindle]

i would not reccomend that

get something like a model o

which doesnt have double click issues like the gpw

[last plinth]

i guess

but theres something that wants me to get the gpw

In the back of my mind

[sharp kindle]

no offense but "getting what the pros have" is a horrible reason to get something

most pros dont know anything about peripherals

just dont get the gpw unless you want wireless

[calm cobalt]

^^

[sharp kindle]

a wired mouse is fine

[calm cobalt]

@last plinth for a mouse, get something that will fit your hand just fine

[sharp kindle]

and if ur concerned about coil drag

just get a bungee

[last plinth]

I have a bungee

[sharp kindle]

ok then there is no need for a wireless mouse really

[last plinth]

ok

I guess

[calm cobalt]

@last plinth get the gpw

if u got the money

[last plinth]

I got the money

@sharp kindle

What u think about this

[calm cobalt]

its really worth tbh

what games play

[last plinth]

[sharp kindle]

well if you got the money i still wouldnt reccomend it

but you do you

[last plinth]

ok

[calm cobalt]

why?

[last plinth]

So glorious model o

[calm cobalt]

the glorious model o isnt bad but its not good tbh

its a good starter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvJBPlYiHcE

[last plinth]

[calm cobalt]

watch reviews on the model o and the gpw

ill get a razer viper or the mini over the model o

[last plinth]

ok ill get gpw

[calm cobalt]

yea

which doesnt have double click issues like the gpw
@sharp kindle plus the gpw rarely has double click issues

[last plinth]

Im getting shroud version aswell

So im hoping theyll be new and no issues

[sharp kindle]

the why the model o sucks video is outdated

trust me its really good

glorious has fixed the issues

but if you want the gpw just get it

[last plinth]

Yea but my mouse bungee is broken

Still usable

But

[sharp kindle]

alright his arguments suck massive ch0de

glorious uses omrons

[sharp kindle]

ok what

[last plinth]

Lmao

It has dysfunction

[sharp kindle]

ok but whatever you do dont listen to taht guy who complains about the o

[calm cobalt]

how much is the shroud one

[sharp kindle]

the model o

[calm cobalt]

?

[sharp kindle]

his video is horrible and most of his complaints are completely bs because hes comparing it to a different mouse

[calm cobalt]

the gpw rarely has issues

[sharp kindle]

omrons are supposed to have a heavier click

[calm cobalt]

the model o has a horrible cable

[sharp kindle]

and the side buttons are a hit or miss

the model o cable is amazing

[calm cobalt]

unless u paracord it

[sharp kindle]

the model o cable is basically a bad paracord

[calm cobalt]

anyone can tell u the cable is bad

[sharp kindle]

its better then most cables imo

im just saying afaik logi still has issues with the gpw

[calm cobalt]

razer viper over model o tbh

[sharp kindle]

and at that price point

its not worth it

[calm cobalt]

yes it is

[last plinth]

The shroud gpw is the same price

[calm cobalt]

its def worth

o ok

[sharp kindle]

@calm cobalt do you have both mice

[calm cobalt]

i might get it then

[last plinth]

U preorder it on the logitech website tho

[calm cobalt]

lol

[sharp kindle]

viper and model o

because im just saying i like the model o more then the viper

and i like the gpw more then the viper

[calm cobalt]

razer has a better cable then the finalmouse

model o i mean

wtf lol

[sharp kindle]

imo razer cables are ok

[calm cobalt]

i blanked

[sharp kindle]

i really like the glorious cable though

lol

ok

[last plinth]

What does imo mean

[sharp kindle]

im just saying get the gpw if you want

in my opinion

[calm cobalt]

razer is soo good rn tho

[last plinth]

Ok

[calm cobalt]

i watch a bunch of reviews

[last plinth]

I dont like razer

[calm cobalt]

watch boardzys review on the gpw

[last plinth]

Not after i got the cynosa chroma

membrane switches

[calm cobalt]

had it for months and didnt break not a single issue

[sharp kindle]

yes watch a bunch of reviews on both mice

[last plinth]

Imma get gpw shroud edition and get hyperslides

[sharp kindle]

sure

[last plinth]

If it is faulty i can return it right

[calm cobalt]

nice

[last plinth]

[calm cobalt]

yea pretty sure

[last plinth]

ok bet

[sharp kindle]

idk if logi has changed their omrons from fake chinese ones to real ones but if they have props to them

i really like my gpw but i like the model o more

both are great mice

and really, both have small issues

[calm cobalt]

yea

but glorious has to step up their game

[sharp kindle]

glorious doesnt have to atm

they are competing with companies such as logitech and razer

[calm cobalt]

with razer finalmouse and logitech is killing them tbh

[sharp kindle]

they're gonna release a 80 dollar wireless mouse

[calm cobalt]

especially razer

[sharp kindle]

no i dont think so

imo glorious is up there

[calm cobalt]

it is

but still

[sharp kindle]

they've upped quality control and they make products that are amazing

[last plinth]

Also will different chipset mobo affect performance

[sharp kindle]

in addition they actively listen to their community

[calm cobalt]

model o- did bad against finalmouse and razer

and model o did decent against logitech and razer

[last plinth]

Pog

[sharp kindle]

i think glorious wasnt smart to release the o- and d-

[calm cobalt]

but i wanna see what that new mouse gonna be like

model o wireless

[sharp kindle]

yes same

[calm cobalt]

model d is bad

[sharp kindle]

why?

[calm cobalt]

just bad

[sharp kindle]

its a ec clone kind of

why is it bad

dude you gotta give reasons to wh

y

you cant just say that its bad

[calm cobalt]

i watched 5 reviews and it broke in their videos

mid vid

[sharp kindle]

really?

oh

[calm cobalt]

yea

[sharp kindle]

from which tech review channels?

[calm cobalt]

techne's broke

boardzys broke

[sharp kindle]

badseed, rfp. hardware canuchs, bt, etc etc

boardzys broke

[calm cobalt]

yea

[sharp kindle]

really?

hm

ok

[calm cobalt]

yea

[sharp kindle]

well thats not good

[calm cobalt]

yea

[sharp kindle]

but i think glorious has made a huge impact in the scene and atm ill buy a glorious product over razer

simply because of the fact that they offer fair pricing

and because their customer service is good

their quality isnt as good/ is on par with razer for me

[calm cobalt]

razer is $10 cheaper

[sharp kindle]

not good not great

[calm cobalt]

pretty sure

idk tho

[sharp kindle]

not for keyboards

[calm cobalt]

o

yea

[sharp kindle]

also im not sure if razer mice are that cheap

[calm cobalt]

well the rhm isnt bad

[sharp kindle]

lemme check real quick

[calm cobalt]

razer viper mini is 40 dollars

thats why its better than the model o and o-

[sharp kindle]

wait really?

[calm cobalt]

better cord stock feet and price

[sharp kindle]

last i checked it was 50 but wow

[calm cobalt]

yea

and the regular razer viper is $60

[sharp kindle]

holy crap razer got big balls

[calm cobalt]

lol

but the razer viper ultimate is wireless and is $150

[sharp kindle]

ohh thats not a great price

[calm cobalt]

but its the fastest switch

but theres better mice

[last plinth]

Did logitech stop using the china thingys

Im also gonna install hyperglides

[sharp kindle]

i think their still chinese omrons

one bad thing about logitech

[calm cobalt]

they switched

[sharp kindle]

if your gonna make a 130 dollar wireless mouse using genuine omrons might be a good move

really?

[calm cobalt]

i think

[sharp kindle]

no the sensor changed but their still chinese omrons afaik

[calm cobalt]

hold up

the clix keyboard is so good

it looks soo good imo

[sharp kindle]

i found nothing about changing the switches

[calm cobalt]

yea idk

well if they didnt it still has rarely any problems but idk

[sharp kindle]

i gtg but it was fun to have a civilized argument about mice lol

[calm cobalt]

lol

see ya

[sharp kindle]

cya

[calm cobalt]

how much in aud for g pro tkl romer g tactile?

[last plinth]

Search it up

[sharp kindle]

^

[white talon]

My headphone cases came in

[hollow pond]

for what headphones

[white talon]

athm50x and dt990pros

[elder remnant]

anyone got any good suggestions for some solid headphones around $100

wired/wireless doesn't matter

[calm cobalt]

hyperx cloud 2 @elder remnant

[amber oracle]

headphones, not cans on a string @calm cobalt

[calm cobalt]

cloud 2s are actually a good budget headset lol

[elder remnant]

i've had razer krakens and corsair void pros so far and i'm not too impressed by either of them

[amber oracle]

the Cloud2's are also a headset.

[calm cobalt]

and the mic thats built in is good

[amber oracle]

Which might not be what @elder remnant is looking for

[elder remnant]

yeah i'm finally switching off of headset microphones for my new build

[amber oracle]

headset = headphones with mic
headphone= headphone

[calm cobalt]

whats your budget again

[elder remnant]

around 100

can be a little above

[calm cobalt]

ok

steelseries arctis 3s arent bad

just go on yt and look at whats best for you

but i will say hyper cloud 2s or steel series arctis 3s

or 5s

[amber oracle]

those are all "gamer" headsets

NOT headphones

[elder remnant]

i was looking more towards sound quality wise

the "gamer" label on headsets is just

[amber oracle]

lets call in the other blabbers

@brisk parcel alive?

[calm cobalt]

soo

hyperx cloud 2 cant be used as headphones

pretty sure u dont have to use the mic

...

œ

[elder remnant]

when I hear hyper x my mind thinks of "console headset" like turtle beach tbh

[amber oracle]

@west hornet alive?

[calm cobalt]

not really

its a really good start off company with really good headsets

but steelseries is decent too

[amber oracle]

@calm cobalt compared to something like a decent Beyerdynamic set of headphones? the "headsets" you are mentioning sound exactly like cans on a string

[calm cobalt]

but ppl say steelseries headsets arent comfortable

bro

hyper x cloud 2s are 100

[daring zenith]

Audiophile headphones are on a completely different level

[amber oracle]

and?

that does NOT make them good

[calm cobalt]

beyerdamics are 160

your comparing a $160 headset to a $90 headset

[amber oracle]

"something like..." <- please read again.

[calm cobalt]

...

ok

lol

[amber oracle]

plenty of options can blow the "gamer" headsets out of the water

[calm cobalt]

under 100

[amber oracle]

because again, he is NOT looking for a "headset"

he is looking for headphones

[daring zenith]

Ghost talked about some good 80$ headphones before

[calm cobalt]

name a eadset or headphones thats under $100 and decent

whats the name

[amber oracle]

https://www.amazon.com/AKG-K240STUDIO-Semi-Open-Professional-Headphones/dp/B0001ARCFA/ <-

thats a start

[calm cobalt]

and headsets have detatchable mics

[amber oracle]

you are still not getting the point @calm cobalt

[calm cobalt]

never heard of that brand in my life

lol

but ok

[daring zenith]

audiophile lands

[amber oracle]

its only been around for 70-ish years

doing actual sound enginering

[calm cobalt]

ill say just do research on yt tbh

whats the best for you

anyone got good mousepad recomendations

since the g sr se is out of stock

[brisk parcel]

I have been SUMMONED

[calm cobalt]

?

[amber oracle]

@brisk parcel headphones (NOT headset) for 100usd max-ish

[brisk parcel]

OKAY @elder remnant recommendation time

gotcha

[amber oracle]

cheers :)

[elder remnant]

thank you

in advance

[brisk parcel]

some great starters, berodynamics got some good options in that price range, audio technica as well, if you're looking to spend a little bit more sennheiser has some nice offers as well, but the cheapest I know from them are the 58X Jubilees which while they are amazing are a bit out of your range unfortunately

let me get you some links

[elder remnant]

I may be able to push towards 150

that's as far as my wallet can reach

[brisk parcel]

will do, I will include up to $150 then, but I've got a few options for you so hold on

mans got a list he gotta pull up

[elder remnant]

alright

[brisk parcel]

straight off the bat, $150, DT 770s, best cans for $150 I've ever tried:
https://www.amazon.com/beyerdynamic-770-PRO-Studio-Headphone/dp/B0016MNAAI/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=dt770&qid=1600718290&s=electronics&sr=1-2&th=1
next up, for $140, best open-backs of the bunch here, the Fidelio X2HRs. SUPER solid, much akin to the SPH9500s later on here:
https://www.amazon.com/Philips-X2HR-Over-Ear-Open-Air-Headphone/dp/B01N5VHLUG/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=fidelio+x2hr&qid=1600718459&sr=8-3
P.S. these boys are open-back, which if you've never tried, then you've never really listened 😍
NUMBA 3! right on the money, the ATH-40x from Audio Technica, nothing super special about them other than the price, one of the best-in-class for $100:
https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATHM40x-Professional-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00HVLUR54/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=ath-m40x&qid=1600718567&sr=8-3
FOURRRR: Ahhhh sennheiser, the name says it all. Known for a very signature sound, they make good stuff, and the HD280 PROs are a great start! also $100, so can't go wrong there.
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD280PRO-Headphone-new-model/dp/B00IT0IHOY/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=hd280+pro&qid=1600718693&s=electronics&sr=1-3
up on 5! the best open-backs I've ever tried for under $100, the Philips SPH9500s. Like I said, they're open-back, so you just have to listen to really get the feeling. super solid sound, and the bass gives a nice low rumble. Trebles are particularly nice on these too, so always a plus! on sale for $75
https://www.amazon.com/Philips-SHP9500S-Precision-Over-ear-Headphones/dp/B00ENMK1DW/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=shp9500&qid=1600718933&sr=8-3
6! back up to $150, but by far and away the best $150 cans I've ever owned, the Sennheiser HD598 Cs! if you can find them in stock, that is...
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-598-Cs-Headphone/dp/B01JP436TS/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=598c&qid=1600719010&sr=8-2

[elder remnant]

holy

[brisk parcel]

finally, my personal favs for $170, my babies themselves, the massdrop x Sennheiser 58X jubilees. I rant! I rave! because they're the best cans under $500 I've ever tried. can be modded ever slightly to sound nearly Identical to HD 660S, which are $500 😂
https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-x-sennheiser-hd-58x-jubilee-headphones

@calm cobalt take that 😎

[elder remnant]

Well you are definitely the right person to ask about this type of stuff

I'll make sure to look up reviews on each one today thank you for so many suggestions

[amber oracle]

@elder remnant and this is why i said i was going to call in the blabbers :)

[brisk parcel]

oh yeah dude totally! find what you love

[calm cobalt]

?

[brisk parcel]

the world of audiophilia is a curse and a blessing

[calm cobalt]

whats going on lol

[brisk parcel]

a curse for your wallet, a blessing for your ears ❤️

[tight pulsar]

p sure its like 95% a curse and 5% good

[brisk parcel]

shhhh

[amber oracle]

@brisk parcel thank you for your time :)

[elder remnant]

^^

[brisk parcel]

np man, always glad to help

[calm cobalt]

how much is it

[brisk parcel]

how much is what?

I mean look at all those cans

super solid for their prices

[calm cobalt]

the headphones your talking about

[brisk parcel]

and better than any "gamer" headphones I've tried

[calm cobalt]

price?

[brisk parcel]

well if you read what I said

[amber oracle]

@calm cobalt read, click.

[brisk parcel]

I included the prices

[amber oracle]

its not magic

[brisk parcel]

^

[calm cobalt]

can u restate

[amber oracle]

just good old passion for the subject

[calm cobalt]

i didnt see

[amber oracle]

the TLDR is: There is no TLDR

[brisk parcel]

but here: $150, 140, 100, 100, 75, 150, and my babies for 170

[amber oracle]

stop being lazy and scroll up

[calm cobalt]

beyerdynamics are prob the best headphones rn

one of!!

dt990

[brisk parcel]

if you want the best "gamer" headset you'll ever own, pick up the cooler master MH751-752s, a reskin of Takstar Pro 82s and a little bit wider, super solid sound, and only $80

[calm cobalt]

not really

[brisk parcel]

and well they're definitely up there, but well my name says who I side with

bro I have tried cans upon cans

[calm cobalt]

headsets dont make you better

tbh

[brisk parcel]

steelseries, corsair, hyperx, razer

[amber oracle]

and you are missing the point again @calm cobalt

[calm cobalt]

the companys u named arent bad tbh

for starters

[brisk parcel]

even the arctis pro, the $300 "audiophile" ones, total garbage

[calm cobalt]

instead of spending 200 on headphones

[brisk parcel]

listen man you're not getting the point

[amber oracle]

@calm cobalt facts over fiction. mate.

[brisk parcel]

it's not that they're bad

it's that there are better options

[elder remnant]

If it meant godly sound quality and I had the money i'd pay 200 for a pair

no question

[calm cobalt]

but its double the price

lol

yea

[brisk parcel]

but listen man

[calm cobalt]

i agree

[brisk parcel]

you say sound doesn't make you better, do you even know what good sound is?

[calm cobalt]

ive seen pros play with earbuds

lol

[brisk parcel]

good stereo imaging is better than any surround could ever hope to produce

[calm cobalt]

try again

[tight pulsar]

iems

[brisk parcel]

earbuds, historically, have good imaging, so I'm not surprised that some do

plus, some iems can go for crazy cash

[calm cobalt]

apple earbuds btw

[amber oracle]

@calm cobalt let me just find my iems that i use on jobs

[tight pulsar]

pros dont play with apple earbuds they play with high quality iems that are probably more than the headphones u listed

[calm cobalt]

or andriod or something

go watch unknown

look up unknown earbuds

on yt

he uses earbuds

[tight pulsar]

and?

[calm cobalt]

just saying i wouldnt spend 200 on something when theres better things for your wallet at way lower prices

[brisk parcel]

but, better quality? no, there isn't.

[calm cobalt]

the quality isnt bad tho

[amber oracle]

@calm cobalt Shure SE535-CL

[calm cobalt]

its really good for the price

[brisk parcel]

fact: gamer headsets don't care about bass they want to hear those sweet footsteps

[amber oracle]

have a look at those budget iem's in my field

[calm cobalt]

no

lol

[neon quartz]

Lone_Ninja#0069 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[brisk parcel]

damn

wishy washy trash*

[tight pulsar]

and fyi unknown uses cheaper earbuds because his headphones arent working right, he normally uses dt990 pros

[brisk parcel]

^

just looked up a vid of him using 990s

[calm cobalt]

he still does good with them tho lol

[tight pulsar]

which has nothing to do with the conversation

[calm cobalt]

shows that u really dont need 200 headsets

unless your rich rich

[brisk parcel]

and Rexo, buddy, take it from me dude, I've used plenty of cans in this price-range, every single audiophile one i've tried has come out on top, far and away

[calm cobalt]

tbh

ok

Are hyper x 60% mechanical keyboards good?

[brisk parcel]

it's why I switched, I owned cloud 2s for 3 years, I payed full price for them

[tight pulsar]

you dont need a mechanical keyboard unless ur rich rich

[calm cobalt]

ive watched reviews on a bunch of headphones from big people and they say there all good

so

[brisk parcel]

this time around, I got the 58Xs I rave about, for a little bit more ($30!) and I hear a WORLD of difference

NIGHT and DAY

[calm cobalt]

personal preference at the end of the day

[brisk parcel]

and you know those reviews are also paid reviews so...

[calm cobalt]

no

lol

[elder remnant]

I prefer good sound quality if it comes with a premium price

[brisk parcel]

lmao ok

^^

quality doesn't always have to come at a premium pricetag

[calm cobalt]

ill only pay for a headset or headphones if its really good and tons of ppl suggest it

tbh

[amber oracle]

ive watched reviews on a bunch of headphones from big people and they say there all good <- if you have never tried a phone, 2 cans on a string sounds like magic

that does NOT mean they are actually good

[calm cobalt]

...

[amber oracle]

99.99% of the people that do headphone/headset reviews have bugger all idea about what they talk about

[brisk parcel]

rexo I bet you didn't even know it existed, but most pros who use IEMS will use multiple driver IEMS
https://www.amazon.com/1MORE-Headphones-Reproduction-Resolution-Smartphones/dp/B06XSJV5B9

such as these

which are my personal IEMS I use every day

they have a driver and 3 balanced armatures in each ear

[tight pulsar]

@brisk parcel how u like those vs 58x or whatever headphones u daily drive

[brisk parcel]

can pick apart any audio scene like god damn lasagna, not cake, lasagna has more layers

and man I love them

so much

took about a week for them to burn in and man

they're good

just that, they're good, worth every penny, every 170,000 pennies

[calm cobalt]

well the g pro x are the best tbh imo

for headsets or headphones

[tight pulsar]

i assume u have them hooked up to a dac amp right

[brisk parcel]

I do

[west hornet]

I am late

What did I miss

[brisk parcel]

the sound blasterX G6

[tight pulsar]

yeah

[brisk parcel]

gonna be buying a schiit modi and magni soon

to replace said G6

and @calm cobalt the BEST advice I can give you, is whenever you can, GO OUT TO A STORE, find a local audiophile place, and just try headphones

[amber oracle]

@west hornet hilarity and silly

[calm cobalt]

ehh

[west hornet]

Ahh I see

[brisk parcel]

don't argue if you're not willing to listen to the other side mate

[calm cobalt]

ill stick to the g pro x tbh

ill try them tho

[brisk parcel]

how much did you pay for those?

[west hornet]

Gaming in audio

[calm cobalt]

but ill probably stay

[brisk parcel]

I'm trying my best here man, how much were they

[calm cobalt]

go on amazon

hold up

[brisk parcel]

wired or wireless?

the fact that the wireless are $80 MORE is garbage in itself

[calm cobalt]

...

[west hornet]

I will just say, you get what fits your needs which is why in person trial is best, but please do never buy audio gear because marketing for something like gaming

[calm cobalt]

$130

[west hornet]

Wireless cost more because then it needs to include a dac and amp

[brisk parcel]

yeah I know that but $80 more?

[calm cobalt]

ok

[brisk parcel]

now anyway

[calm cobalt]

$80 isnt bad tho

[tight pulsar]

ive been meaning to get an actual audio setup but bikes are $$

[calm cobalt]

if u had extra money wanted to upgrade get those

[brisk parcel]

rexo, for $130, you could've gotten almost any of the cans I recommended to @elder remnant here, and you would've ended up with better audio, EVERY time, by far

[west hornet]

Amd bike

[brisk parcel]

even against the lower priced ones

[tight pulsar]

lol amd bike

[calm cobalt]

personal preference tho

[west hornet]

130 headset - pc37x

[brisk parcel]

I've tried g pro Xs, almost got them instead of my 58Xs

^^^

THAT

[calm cobalt]

u might like it but i might not

[brisk parcel]

PC37X

BOOM

[calm cobalt]

if u like it

[brisk parcel]

$130, perfect

[calm cobalt]

doesnt mean the next kid will

[brisk parcel]

has the same driver as the 598Cs I mentioned, but a bit better

open back

"gamer"

would fit you perfectly

now anyway

[west hornet]

Yes there is personal preference, but the reason why people hate on gaming headphones is because almost if not all the time “gaming” is a gimmick

[calm cobalt]

yea

[brisk parcel]

the 7.1 surround sounds like total garbage, I actually have a surround option on my G6 which is considered the best on the market only second to sennheier's binaural surround engine

and guess what

I leave it OFF

it sounds better that way

[calm cobalt]

ok

[brisk parcel]

because the imaging is just that good

[calm cobalt]

ok

[brisk parcel]

also, you have to worry about width, how "wide" the sound feels, clarity, whether the sound will sound like it's "veiled" almost

[calm cobalt]

nice

[west hornet]

The only way I find surround sound worth, is with the physical speakers set up around you

[calm cobalt]

lol

[brisk parcel]

You say you think gamer headsets are a good deal yet you've never tried any other ones, so your argument is "Oh i've only used gamer headsets and they're better than the other ones for the same price even though i've never tried any of the other ones that are cheaper and probably better"

audiophile cans are designed for pure sound quality, gamer cans are designed with gamers in mind

which is, stupid gimmicks and stuff that will actually worsen the sound without you even knowing it because your ears have never heard better

and @west hornet I totally agreee

agree*

[west hornet]

Sadly in most common stores gaming headphones are the only ones available to try

[calm cobalt]

ill still stick to gpro xs

lol

[brisk parcel]

^ sometimes you get like beats, bose, samsung. but not really true audiophile brands, best out of them is bose and even those are overpriced

[west hornet]

Bose has good anc, but I can’t remember being blowed away by them

[calm cobalt]

how much is a mixer

[west hornet]

Depends

[brisk parcel]

depends

[calm cobalt]

i might buy it

[brisk parcel]

lmao

[calm cobalt]

the gxlr

goxlr

or whatever

[west hornet]

Cheap one is around 70ish and they just go up in price after that

[calm cobalt]

nice

[west hornet]

Goxlr is nice if you have a xlr mic

[brisk parcel]

^

[calm cobalt]

price sounds nic

[brisk parcel]

I got to go get dinner started, will brb

[calm cobalt]

ok

[brisk parcel]

@calm cobalt what you should take away from this is take our advice, we've lived in both worlds, myself especially, and I will go audiophile every time now, there are options out there that are better than any gamer option will ever hope to be, you just have to look

ask where it matters, not where you get the answer that makes you feel better about your purchase

[calm cobalt]

the goxlr is 250 dollars

yea no

[west hornet]

I’ve never actually had a gaming headset lol, I’ve had cheap headphones, and have used beats and cat ear headphones for a while

[calm cobalt]

you should get some

dtt990

or if thats too much

than find something for you

[amber oracle]

@calm cobalt is that a serious comment?

[tight pulsar]

lol the plot development of this channel is great

[west hornet]

it is very possible i might get dt770 pros, but not for me i like my desktop headphones

[calm cobalt]

get the dt990 if you can

[amber oracle]

okay, silly answer group you go

[calm cobalt]

ok

nice

anyone got good mouse pad recommendations

[amber oracle]

flat surface

[calm cobalt]

?

[amber oracle]

but without oil

[calm cobalt]

so no mouse pad..

[amber oracle]

also butter is bad for that

but good for baking.

[calm cobalt]

ok yea no

[tight pulsar]

i use my desk for osu and it works fine

[calm cobalt]

yea no

ill buy a pad

[amber oracle]

remember to buy the right pad!

[calm cobalt]

pads are personal preference...

[amber oracle]

flat surfaces man

flat

surfaces

[calm cobalt]

ima get the xxxl glorious pad

or the steelseries heavy pad

[tight pulsar]

get one from novelkeys

[calm cobalt]

idk

probably gonna get the xxxl glorious pad

and i can get another in the future and put that on top of it

[brisk parcel]

@calm cobalt you really just don't get it

tbh I prefer to lube up all my flat surfaces for my mouse

slides nice and smoooooth

[calm cobalt]

Personal preferences

^^^^^

please understand

if you like something

doesnt mean everyone has to like that

[brisk parcel]

it's not about that

it's about you not taking our recommendations

[tight pulsar]

my opinion > your opinion 😎

[calm cobalt]

im going off what i perfer to do

lol

[brisk parcel]

but like we said

[calm cobalt]

you dont understand

[brisk parcel]

you've never tried audiophile stuff

oh I completely understand

it's called being one-sided

[calm cobalt]

personal preference but ok

i perfer to have a mouse pad

[brisk parcel]

oh the mouse pad thing was a joke

you can't have a personal preference for gaming gear if you've NEVER tried the other side

it's almost like not eating a food because "oh I don't like it" but you've NEVER tried it

[calm cobalt]

yea

[brisk parcel]

well then why the hell are you arguing 😂

"Oh it's good because other people say it's good and I think it's good because it's all I know"

[calm cobalt]

i like gaming headsets😆

[brisk parcel]

once again

[calm cobalt]

[brisk parcel]

you have never listened to "audiophile" headphones, so yes you might think you like gaming headsets but you could try something one day and never go back to the other side again

[calm cobalt]

stonks

[west hornet]

i thought i like ti 84, turns out i like ti 92 more

[calm cobalt]

the price is almost 200

with that i can get the apex pro tkl

[amber oracle]

bananas!

[brisk parcel]

with that you can get the sennheiser HD 6XXs

[calm cobalt]

if i buy headphones for 200 i better hear the future

[brisk parcel]

which are reskins of the HD650s, exact replica, with a massdrop name and a slashed price slapped on it

look up reviews

try me

[calm cobalt]

if i buy headphones for 200 i better hear the future

^^

[brisk parcel]

I saw what you said

and

look at reviews

try me

[amber oracle]

donkey?

[brisk parcel]

https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx

I'll even link you

[amber oracle]

(dammit, i hoped to slip that in after the "and" on you @brisk parcel )

[calm cobalt]

if i buy headphones for 200 i better hear the future

[brisk parcel]

lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjNu9R2YKks

here

watch this

[calm cobalt]

i better hear someones bullet before i take damage

like 5 hrs before

[tight pulsar]

in the audiophile world 200 isnt even a ton

[brisk parcel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE22dZ_jiyU&t=35s