And it would be better as exhaust on the top
#old-cooling
empty sigil
the p500a has really good airflow so basic physics should make the air go into exhaust more
golden oasis
from my understanding, and from videos i watched, is because of the radiator size and the tubes might have trouble attach to cpu on the mobo
empty sigil
link
golden oasis
gamernexus
empty sigil
Link it
Well @golden oasis the p500a is a really big case
I can almost GURANTEE you’ll be fine
Dont use as intake
Use as exhaust
P500a will lose their airflow capability if u use as intake
golden oasis
trying to find the video but i forgot which one
golden oasis
lol
I saw this, https://www.reddit.com/r/Phanteks/comments/jnqahl/finished_my_p500_rgb_build_finally/ , and what do you think of the airflow? and what if i use 360 one instead of 280 like the guy did, would the case still lose airflow?
lilac tide
Which is better, the CoolerMaster Sickleflow or Artic F12, both 12mm?
hearty solstice
is the kraken x73 a good cooler for the 3700x
ornate zinc
what cooler is best for the Intel Core i5-9400F
lyric hatch
Any warnings for corsair GPU waterblocks?
ember stone
Jayztwocents made a video about Corsair waterblocks back in may, since I dont have the permission to post links to youtube, I let you search it
empty sigil
@hearty solstice yes but it is overpriced, i recommend arctic liquid freezer. It has some of the best cooling
@ornate zinc there is no “best cooler” but i recommend getting noctia nh-u12s
topaz blaze
How good is the cryorig xf140?
twin urchin
Stock ryzen better than stick Intel cooler
ornate zinc
can you do mild overclocking with the ryzen wraith prism rgb cooler?
topaz blaze
@ornate zinc depends on which ryzen you use
I have the 5 3600 with the prism, and I can do mild OC, wouldn't know about the ryzen 9 as that gets hotter
topaz blaze
Though, i unusually don't need to use the OC setting
ornate zinc
it is practical to get an aio if you plan to run at stock speeds
topaz blaze
I use stock cooler whether stock speed or OC
cosmic crescent
For a ryzen 5900X what cooler would be a good choice for that?
burnt goblet
whichever was a good cooler for the 3900x @cosmic crescent
twin urchin
depends on if you want to OC or not and your budget.
topaz blaze
How good is the cryorig xf140?
golden turtle
Are there signs your AIO pump is dying? Had mine a couple years and recently switched it from intake to top, expected higher temps but like even stock it hits 80+ degrees (8700k, Corsair H115i)
Switch to MX-4 paste too but tried reseating it like twice now same results
golden turtle
Maybe like High 60s, low 70s maybe at load, unfortunately didn't track it
and 3090 FE
which prob doesn't help either
twin urchin
and you had it front mounted before??
twin urchin
thats kind of what you should expect. it is dealing with lots of heat from the 3090
golden turtle
yea before I had the water cooled 1080ti
twin urchin
instead of cold air from the front, its got cold air + warm air from the 3090
golden turtle
but I plan on switching to an O11 Dynamic, so that should help
twin urchin
i bet your 3090 is running cooler tho
golden turtle
oh yea
hopefully on the O11 I can do intake on the side for the CPU but the 3090 is a mammoth
sage cobalt
What do you guys reckon the best AIO is for a ryzen 5 3600XT
ive been looking at the DeepCool Castle 240 RGB
twin urchin
Don't need an aio for that
burnt goblet
send links in dm to me please
because you cant post links yet (the anti spam bot will eat them)
because the math on what you are talking about does not add up @sage cobalt
sage cobalt
yeah just forget i ever came here it doesnt matter
lean musk
how can i find the best spots for fans for optimal cooling on my case?
stray canyon
Is a Scythe Fuma 2 good for a 5800X?
obsidian hawk
Are m.2 heatsinks essential??
burnt goblet
@obsidian hawk generally no
twin urchin
@stray canyon yes, it is
stray canyon
okay
@twin urchin compared to a Cooler Master Hyper 212 is it better? Im leaning towards the Cooler Master one bc its cheaper and in the future I can upgrade the fan
(to a rgb fan)
burnt goblet
please dont use the Hyper 212
empty sigil
noctua
stray canyon
@burnt goblet why?
empty sigil
Its bad
empty sigil
Give budget for cooler
burnt goblet
gammax400 is an option
keen raptor
around 70 USD
stray canyon
can it be black?
burnt goblet
Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 <- thats the name
empty sigil
stray canyon
i searched it up but its silver
empty sigil
lolz
stray canyon
good cooler thats black?
keen raptor
Hyper 212 is good
low pumice
NH-U12s Chromax
stray canyon
oh that artic freezer looks good
stray canyon
but its 157mm and my case max is 160mm, is it worth it to cut it close?
burnt goblet
if you are looks over performance. you are on your own @stray canyon
stray canyon
aight
i am
bought a strix b550-f
NH-U12s Chromax
@low pumice alright ill look at thid
*this
Im split between Hyper 212 and the NH-U12S
anyone else wanna share an opinion?
low pumice
easy u12s if it's just between those two
topaz blaze
I literally just ordered my nhu-12s
empty sigil
I would get p500a and get 360mm one but up to you
I would pick 240mm
280mm one is like 200
Slighty
and theres a 100$ price difference
At that point just switch case to p500a and arctic liquid freezer 360mm as top exhaust
P500a better airflow
And 360mm support
yea lol
Yep
Gamernexus did a vid on p500a airflow
If you get p500a make sure to get 360mm arctic liquid
umbral arrow
are there any benefits in putting fans on top of the PSU shroud in a mid tower case?
viral fjord
finally figured out how to set case fans based on gpu temp... software called argus monitor can do it
umbral arrow
vikings shield vks-11
@umbral arrow but you can find it in google images
burnt goblet
@umbral arrow simple answer is this: it does not look like you will get any real benefit from it
umbral arrow
@umbral arrow simple answer is this: it does not look like you will get any real benefit from it
@burnt goblet Thanks! That's what I think also. I always see people posting setups in Socmed with RGB fans there.
burnt goblet
aye, aye
you obviously can put something there IF you want
but its does not look like a requirement
umbral arrow
I think I wont, Its just a waste of money. Performance over looks
burnt goblet
:)
dense oyster
If you get p500a make sure to get 360mm arctic liquid
@empty sigil why not the 360 lian li galahad?
azure crown
@modern pebble can we get this clown @pliant sapphire out plz?
spare ember
next time you join a server, it’s smart to take a glance at the rules channel
thank you
modern pebble
👍
azure crown
thx
vague cloak
anyone know of some good matte white cpu coolers
empty sigil
@dense oyster arctic liquid freezer 360 is better and cheaper than most stuff
just look at benchmarks
And theres many people in this server that recommend it
It competes with even nh-d15
autumn anchor
Good cooler for lga 1155 I'm over clocking a 2600k to 4.4 ghz
thick carbon
at idle POG
lean musk
What are some cheap case fans I can get?
charred oriole
the Arctic p12 pmw pst value pack ( 5 fans) for $30-40 is by far the best budget fan you can buy
copper marten
Anybody have any experience with the Cooler master Hyper 212 black edition RGB cpu cooler? I just bought it. Just wondering how it performs.
twin urchin
its decent
twin urchin
cooler probably comes with thermal paste
its good but on the small side
you trying to fit it into a tiny case?
odd notch
noctua coolers are really good bill
only issue i've ever had was clearance issues with ram because i'd put it backwards by mistake and the cables were slightly in the way
twin urchin
Scythe also makes some very good small form factor coolers as well
odd notch
hey buzz do you think liquid cooling is worth it if you don't really plan to overclock
i've seen some issues with longevity from water cooling going downhill
twin urchin
if you're not OCing then generally no
you would need a really hot CPU and a case with terrible airflow before you would benefit from an AIO
odd notch
i considered it for thread ripper before but since everythings better than old thread ripper was now i think the only benefit would be thermal mass
my laser cutter has liquid cooling but even it i don't think really needs it
risk of leaks and mold build-up stopping pumps is scary
twin urchin
i think Enermax is the only one that ever had Slime problems
but yeah, pump failures are way worse than when a fan on your air cooler fails
odd notch
do you know much about passive liquid cooling? i've seen a couple exist
i dunno if they're anymore effective than a fan though
odd notch
yeah let me find it, LTT did one a while back, no pump
its basically just the way you mount the radiator that matters for it, so the heat itself is what moves the liquid
twin urchin
interesting
i don't think tehre are any actual products that you can buy that work that way tho
odd notch
this might be hard to find they have so many videos
finding the right click bait is hard
the bot just deleted the link
oh my god
dm'd it to you
anyone else curious look for 'CPU Cooling with BOILING LIQUID'
the way they tested it in the video is pretty jank cause they're using a test bench
honest ingot
How tight should the cooler screws be? For am4 socket. Scythe fuma 2.
sinful iris
h100i capellix good enough for r7 5800x?
minor marlin
Anyone have any ideas where I can research corsair aio color meanings? Currently have this and pump isn't running.
Er can't post images thats right.
But its a 115i pro rgb and the top left is green and the bottom right is red.
umbral arrow
Hi! Is anyone here from PH? Whats a good brand for a liquid cooling system, preferably not AIO?
brisk steeple
What’s the better stock cooler for and the original wraith that came with the fx series or the spire that came with the 3600
twin urchin
@honest ingot screw them until they stop turning
turbid walrus
Can anyone recommend me a good RGB AIO
I wanted the nzxt z73 but it’s costs too much
twin urchin
what CPU
solid python
hey what are some good programs to display temp while playing a game
?
maiden delta
I use msi afterburner
proud plume
whats the best 120mm single rad cpu cooler?
kind apex
I dont think a 120mm is worth it at that size just get an air cooler
120mm rad is just going to be saturated with heat so quickly
proud plume
haf evo case, only got 4" between top of the cpu and bottom of the fan on the top lid....
couldnt get a new video card so stuck using the 1080 seahawk, have to run something small to cool that thing....
might just have to change cases...just dont wanna
kind apex
which haf evo obviously not the haf xb evo
proud plume
ya that one 🙂
topaz blaze
can i just throw a chunk of dry ice in my pc?
proud plume
topaz blaze
would that work or no
kind apex
there is so much room in that case I have the same case
proud plume
i have an h115i to the cpu now, i just cant figure out how to cool the seahawk
kind apex
its ugly but roomy
kind apex
you dont have to build anything put a 280mm on the front like mine
and there should be closer to 6" between the cpu and the 200mm fan on top
kind apex
yeah I guess a 120mm on the back is going to be best
kind apex
it wont fit in the 120mm spot right above the i/o
burnt goblet
use silly cases, win silly prizes :P
kind apex
its a nice case @burnt goblet
kind apex
LOL
proud plume
ya very air flowy... 🙂
alpine crescent
2x thicker 280 rads or 240 and 360 30mm
kind apex
or use the vents on the side panels and some locking nuts and washers
I prefer the 60mm wide 280mm if you cant fit a 360mm
alpine crescent
right now i got 360 and 240 but idk i may wanna change it up
proud plume
ya but then id have to buy that and the pump and new tubing
kind apex
I say side panel modification
alpine crescent
prob would be even for cooling capacity if thicker 280s vs 240 and 360 right
kind apex
pretty much surface area is surface area
proud plume
burnt goblet
"what you go there Mr @kind apex?" "Oh hello Officer, just taking a walk with my case, its gets so cranky if i dont"
proud plume
was thinking bout just buying that.....and swappin everything over....
burnt goblet
yes .. i can totally see the need for those handles @kind apex :P
kind apex
LOL @burnt goblet to be fair I wanted something I could lug a 2080ti around in to show off VR to friends and family
proud plume
handles come in very handy when ya move a lot for work 😛
burnt goblet
Sleiger mb580
or a fractal design node304
you know, something that is actually small
proud plume
no nil, think i could take the hd trays out of the front bottom and bit a 240 down thwer?
*there?
kind apex
no I think its too short down there but you could measure it
@burnt goblet yeah I should have gone smaller but I wanted to lug all my hdd drives with me... lol
proud plume
what i really want is a Cooler Master MasterCase MC500Mt ATX-Mid-Tower Case
but....nobody has one that aint $400
burnt goblet
hmm, its 263usd here, and that is with our bonkers tax rate
so, should be well below 200 in the US
kind apex
I have a Thermaltake 20 XT E-ATX to build my custom loop that planned on building 2 years ago and its still just sitting here....
low pumice
I seem to recall a MC500Mt to be around the 160usd or so mark when I was looking into those cases like a year ago
proud plume
i have a trooper sitting here waiting to but the ryzen9 3950 together....
no its the one with the red handle on top
that is a close second
its a lil small tho
proud plume
that one
amazon has one, somewhere in europ, for $333 and $170 shipping....but i dont want it that bad......lol
kind apex
its not too much bigger
proud plume
ya thats why i didnt get it back when they were around
kind apex
9.53 x 22.6 x 21.42" vs 9.25 x 21.57 x 20.16"
burnt goblet
@proud plume you tried searching for the actual product code instead of the name+code?
proud plume
no im google tarted when it comes to lookin for stuff
what i really want is https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/full-tower/stryker-se/
but they dont make em anymore
proud plume
thats about what i found too
burnt goblet
reason i mentioned that is that it sometimes happens that the code itself is the only "right" thing a vendor has on their site
proud plume
oh
kind apex
should have got the stryker when walmart was selling them for $125 to clear inventory lol
proud plume
i bought 2 but ended up selling them to "friends"
i have a black trooper atm sitting on the table
🙂
i had a swiftech 240x going to the seahawk and the cpu and that worked pretty well but my pump started makin noice so i took it out
what you guys think about this case
silk oasis
a bit spendy but 3 120 rgb fans in the front and a full mesh front panel automatically gets a win from me
proud plume
guess ima have to just go back to a cuastom loop
thats how it was....i didnt like that old swiftech cpu
prob was the video card was to high and couldnt put a fan on the top
burnt goblet
imo no
tawny crow
i wish there was a solution today for aio for graphics cards
pliant gale
what rgb fans do yall reccomend i dont wan the fans with ring lighting on them only the fan
mild comet
I hear ML120s are good
I need me some rgb fans
But ill probably get some Noctua Chromax.black and just use an led strip
topaz root
I'm using Chromax with the Phanteks rgb frames
But don't do that. Phanteks frames are garbage
mild comet
@topaz root, what frames would you recommend?
topaz root
Unsure, those are the only ones I tried
near tinsel
This is weird but do all cpus need thermal paste? If not which ones don’t generally? Please let me know
near tinsel
Just wondering because some videos showcase putting thermal paste while others don’t like mostly the nzxt kraken I watched vids none of them showed putting thermal paste. Thx for info tho
burnt goblet
you are very welcome :)
hushed flare
gamdias is a reliable beand
brand
they make everything from chair to pc cases
mouse pads
etc
twin urchin
If you want to skip thermal paste, you need to go back to 486 and Pentium CPU s
pliant gale
which fans should i go with looking to use 3 with an aio at some point...... https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/case-fan/masterfan-sf120r-argb/ or https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/case-fan/sickleflow-120-argb/
twin urchin
If I was going to get cooler master 120mm fans I would get the mf120 halo
pliant gale
I dont really like the halo look is all
twin urchin
I forget which model, but one of them has magnetic levitation bearings. i would try for those
twin urchin
actually i think its corsair with the mag bearings
pliant gale
oh corsair is too much for me @twin urchin
pliant gale
i think both have rifle bearings
they are pretty quiet it seems though 27-30dba at max
pliant gale
i want rgb though other wise i would
twin urchin
for coolermaster, i don't know what the difference is between the sickleflow and the masterfan sf120
pliant gale
alright
twin urchin
sf120 looks like it has more blades on the fan
pliant gale
i might go masterfan just cause the middle is black lol
i wish there was a 140 option of it as well though
twin urchin
9 vs 7 for the sickleflow
low pumice
depends on design
twin urchin
there are mastefan MF140 too, but they aren't square frames
he's talking about the shape of the fan blades
pliant gale
yeah
twin urchin
pliant gale
i think square fan would be better for aestehtic lol if all fans are square and 2 arent
also over $20 a fan yikes
i need 6 lol
pliant gale
i think ill just get the masterfan 120 and get 6 of them
twin urchin
or two of the 3-pack version
pliant gale
those arent as good as the cm fans
twin urchin
i know
pliant gale
i want to use an aio in the front of my case
twin urchin
they are well reviewed tho
pliant gale
only spot i can mount
i cant even do tubes down cause of how big my gpu is
i dont think i can at least
twin urchin
clearly, you need a smaller GPU lol
pliant gale
bruh
not giving up mine
not in a heart beat
not for liek 2 or 3 years at least lol
lyric hatch
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Custom-Cooling/Blocks/CPU-Blocks/Hydro-X-Series-XC7-RGB-CPU-Water-Block-(1200-AM4)/p/CX-9010006-WW Does anybody whether this water block is compatible with the ASUS Tuf gaming x570 plus?
tired fog
yeah
lyric hatch
Thanks
twin urchin
you have to worry more about if it will fit in your case.
oh wait, thats just a block
nvm
tawdry bobcat
Question about aio do they have any maintenance like replacing water every few months etc
low pumice
No
pine scroll
no
low pumice
As long as it's a decent aio
pine scroll
just need to clean dust offof them
low pumice
the liquid doesn't matter
pine scroll
the rads
low pumice
There are cases like the Enermax liqtech aios collecting gunk in the coldplate
but if you get a decent aio, no problems.
low pumice
@hollow mortar Arctic freezer ii 240mm at 100usd
low pumice
see that 'usd'? :)
low pumice
Yea I'm mentioning it because USD means US market, so prices are different elsewhere.
hollow mortar
most my hardware was cheaper in US pricing when I bought it
gusty wing
im gonna be using the phanteks p300a mesh case that has room for 2x 120mm fans or 2x 140mm fans in the front. which ones would i be better off with? also, since theres a mesh panel on the case, would i benefit from static pressure fans or would air flow ones be just fine?
twin urchin
140 would move more air
low pumice
@gusty wing You'll benefit more with airflow ones. The static pressure fans are made for thicc radiators, not the thin mesh in airflow cases.
and yea 140mm>120mm whenever possible
gusty wing
alr, thanks!
twin urchin
TECs are rarely worth it
empty sigil
Whats a tec
twin urchin
you linked the video...
did you not watch it?
though that one is less dumb than all the previous attempts since its monitoring for condensation and stuff
tired fog
bruh the temps were so low on the cpu that it wouldn't even mark anything below 0ºc lmao
twin urchin
oh i know it gets cold. but they use TONS of power
empty sigil
How much watts
twin urchin
the one in the video was 200 i think?
but basically, with those, if you have a x-watt CPU, you need a TEC that uses 2x watts to cool it
i mean
the thing has an 8-pin PCI-E power connector
mighty creek
azure crown
theres like 50 people here who are more than capable
just ask your question, if someone here can help they will
hushed flare
talk boi
magic sparrow
tired fog
bruh jus ask, you don’t need a techie in particular to answer
lofty leaf
How are Lian LI's AIO's?
tired fog
idk i’ve never seen reviews on it
someone here prolly has, or do sum research on it if you’ve got the time
final crescent
Tom's Hardware looks to have done one on the Lian Li Galahad
tired fog
there ya go
uneven sleet
are the Ek classic kits good? and can you mix and match classic and quantum lines or are they separate?
digital stump
whats the difference between the 53x and 63x? the nzxt kraken aio coolers
if it even is one
digital stump
I have 120mm fans so the x53 is better then
Can it cool a oc 5900x u think?
@fluid field
digital stump
Oki ty @fluid field
arctic tree
yo imma get a kraken x53 and i have a lian li lancool ll- X what way should i mount the kraken
azure crown
mounting it at the top as an exhaust is typically the way to go
arctic tree
alright thanks
proud plume
ok, i need a 5 1/4" bay res/pump to put in a haf xb evo lan box, anyone got any good recomendations?
distant kernel
what are some GOOD rgb case fans?
I need abt 10-15-20 of them, so they can't be corsair expensive, either...
budget is abt 15-20$ per fan
up to 25$
cyan vessel
cm has some good ones, if youre looking for quiet, use bequiet fans
those are not expensive at all
twin urchin
BeQuiet and noctua don't have RGB fans i don't think
EZDIY-FAB also has good prices on the 5-packs and 6-packs, but their longevity isn't known
cyan vessel
u can just add ur own rgb fans lol
twin urchin
so he should build his own fans?
tired fog
no, you can add them and take out the original fans
twin urchin
his question was about RGB fans, not about what case he has. im pretty sure he knows to remove any default fans
low pumice
@distant kernel actually just get a ton of these lel
https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-mfl-b2dn-18npa-r1-case-fan/p/1YF-0010-00264
15.5$ isn't bad
coarse herald
Yo why you do this to me now I'm gonna have to shell out the money on these
@low pumice how they holding up if you've used them
coarse herald
Reviews are very mixed lol
uneven sleet
Anyone know if the ek classic kits are good?
Considering trying out my first custom loop
maiden delta
I have the slightly worse version of those that came with my case and I'm happy with mine, im sure those are much better lol @coarse herald
coarse herald
Good to hear
feral prairie
Does the Cooler Master SF360R work with RGB Fusion 2.0 through an rgb hub?
velvet rain
azure crown
whats the price difference
low pumice
240mm freezer ii 100$, d15 should be 90$
azure crown
what do you think mr1111
which would you suggest, because the only difference i see is price
low pumice
@azure crown D15/U12a for Noctua reliability and warranty and the free upgrade mountings imo
but if you're OCing and need that extra 5c of perf, freezer ii
low pumice
AHHHH
@coarse herald I'd love to tell you, but school for some reason blocked the site, but you should be able to find it in the manual for this here.
https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/rgb-accessories/argb-led-small-controller/#item1
azure crown
the controller pictured in the listing is https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/rgb-accessories/mini-addressable-rgb-led-controller/
which only has one fan header
ahh, it comes with a splitter cable
allows you to connect 4 fans
coarse herald
Ah gotcha ty ty
low pumice
hm
@azure crown a different one was on the 3 pack for mf120 on CM's website
oh
it was the mf120r I was looking at
azure crown
hmm
azure crown
oh
coarse herald
It won't load for me
coarse herald
I'll try my laptop later
I've just wanna find a decent rbg fan that isn't the corsair ones cuz money
feral prairie
Anyone happen to know if Asiahorse is ever gonna restock their 360mm matrix-white 3-fan units?
barren heart
GUYS im still conflicted on the NH-D15 which already provide unbelievable performance in cooling and noise levels but I really don't wanna cover the beautiful ramsticks. Is the NH-U12s or the NH-U12a better alternatives?
torn panther
Which way should you face an aio cooler?
With fans inward or outward (aio is In front of the case)
low pumice
@barren heart NH U12a is a better alternative
U12s is a pretty big step down in performance
barren heart
mhmmm, gotta have to wait until beginning next year for the black version of it
man if only Noctua had black versions from the beginning.
black and their main brown
low pumice
@barren heart Reason why:
they worked on coating each part to get the colors
and took years to get it right without hurting performance
barren heart
Mhmmmmmm. This is a company that I can trust on to deliver. Definitely will be waiting for the chromax black coolers.
U12a edition
distant kernel
air coolers 
I mean srsly
ok
only 2 times I would say use air cooler- 1 if u need lots and lots of performance- or 2, ur on a budget, ergo using stock cooler
grave wedge
the Wraith Prism is by far the coolest stock cooler
twin urchin
@distant kernel so basically every situation?
distant kernel
no
topaz root
Water coolers are unreliable if that's what you're advocating for
Damn do they cool well though
distant kernel
AIOs are good if u have a higher budget, and ur using i/r 7 or i/r 9
bruh
that's so false
double lie
AIOs are very reliable
and air coolers perform better
topaz root
You can't maintain anything in an AIO. You've relinquished control
distant kernel
qfhqpofeihqfe
topaz root
And they cost a fortune
alpine crescent
theres always a chance with any component, but ive never had any issues w/ any aio
alpine crescent
maintence hes talking about
topaz root
You cannot maintain the pipes and fluid in an AIO.
alpine crescent
unless you get the alphacool ones
distant kernel
?? ofc u can!
it's a bit more effort than a custom loop, but they're built so u don't need to do anything
that's the whole point
and air coolers perform better than AIOs
topaz root
Additionally for workloads that are changing a lot, water cooling is better
alpine crescent
these you can add coolant if needed and change tubes if you want
alpine crescent
im waiting for alphacool's blocks to come in they been delayed so
what 3070 u have fire
topaz root
Founders
It runs at 57C idle without any fans on
Could also be my case that doesn't provide any real airflow though.
honest tendon
jade quest
last week i cleaned up my laptop radiator and went from 95 degrees celsius max to 70
tired fog
water cooled laptop?
tired fog
oh i thought you pulled a linus
jade quest
heatsink grills?
jade quest
you should, it's amazing how much colder it will run
and quieter since the fans won't spin up as intensely
tired fog
ahh okok will do
hollow sail
@river lichen you need to cool down
river lichen
🧊
stuck rivet
which way is exhaust on fans lmao
tired fog
the logo facing towards the inside iirc
if not then most fans have arrows on them, indicating which way they will blow air from
magic wave
the exhaust follows the one arrow, and the fan rotation follows the other arrow
stuck rivet
is it normal for daisy chain fan things to only have 2 pins instead of 4?
topaz root
That just means the fan is always on full rpm
low pumice
Daisy chain should be 3 pin
I don't think it's supposed to be 2 pin
3 pin still has dc controls, and usually gets pwm signal from 1st fan in daisy chain
stuck rivet
mate it’s a 7400 stock cooler is fine
dawn charm
twin urchin
an AIO is a CPU cooler
twilit abyss
i mean, i think he means air or water cooler
in which case, they're basically equal
aio is basically just for better looks
theres no such thing as a cheap aio
but cheap air cooler that work are all over the palce
wind orchid
can someone suggest an inexpensive and good fan hub
topaz blaze
You could get fans that come with a splitter
I am getting ID cooler fans
and they seem high quality and they come with the splitter
twilit abyss
or just buy splitters
stuck rivet
idk man ive seen some single digit price aios
odd notch
this is gonna seem like a weird question but i have a weird situation
so i had this old build that didnt fly through and ended up stuck with a TR4 cooler, an NH-U9 TR4-SP3
big chonker
which is by default not compatible with uh, anything else
how ridiculous of a rig do you guys figure i'll need to make use of this thing on an am4
not what im asking
im completely aware the build was previously a threadripper one
yeah pretty much
i'll make it fit
im aware that its giant
but thats better than too small
damn the photos on it ar dead
i was basically figuring i'd have to do some shenanigans with th positioning of the brackets but i'm still not sure quite the best method
yeah its not hard to machine holes dude
its just basically making my own adapter kit
its gonna be so jury rigged that it might even include pieces of meccano
i am a little worried honestly about the mounting pressure though
man im feeling the weight of this chonk and im reconsidering again, if it was mounted flat it'd probably be okay but in a regular case it might put too much physical stress on the motherboard from the weight let me get the scale
856 grams with the two fans or 664 with just the block heatpipes and fin
this is a bad idea and i should feel bad
yeah but your reasoning wasnt good
like you can totally put big parts in a car
as long as it doesnt make the car tip onto its side
structural stresses isn't something that comes to mind with digital stuff
i still think i could do it but i don't think i'll try to rig it on my upcoming build maybe an old one to see if it chooches
ya this should be pretty good to see cant remember what cpu or bracket this is though
the clearance looks fine to me
might have a bit of trouble before that part though
the old stock paste is right into the fins on this old beast
am2 socket is the same size as am4 which is good
okay got it off its a phenom 2 apparently
odd notch
yeah the clearance is no issue, mother board only supports one fan sadly though
cant fine my allen keys to try and remove that bracket, if i can turn this sideways the regular mounting hardware will hold it but the bars wont let me without removal
still sits nicely this direction though which is fun
lusty galleon
so on my alienware 18 for some reason when i launch newer versions of minecraft my cpu (i7-4940mx) decides to get to boiling temperatures and my computer shuts down, before you say it yes I will be re-applying thermal paste soon but I keep putting it off cause this computer is a pain in the ass to take apart but is there anything else i should do
odd notch
minecrafts super inefficient, if you're using feed the beast packs and stuff its pretty insane especially with optifine and stuff if you're using that, so trimming minecraft and making that a bit more efficient will probably help you more if you haven't done anything wrong with your cooler
for a cpu to actually hit that 100c it basically needs to not be touching the cooler at all
lusty galleon
I have never messed with the cpu I have only messes with the gpu(s) but I have never replaced the thermal paste in the almost 5 years of ownership so that is probably a big reason
odd notch
my old laptop had that issue after its fan died but that model of hp laptop was designed to not be fixable or even cleanable
lusty galleon
I can definitely hear the fan ramping up sometimes though
odd notch
check the fan for any debris in it
lusty galleon
oh I will
odd notch
even a fast running fan you shouldnt really hear
its probably full of dirt and cat hair in the tines
lusty galleon
I can almost feel that grime in the fans
odd notch
can you taste it
lusty galleon
perfectly
I just need a better screwdriver cause my current one is basically un-usable
it so big
odd notch
one thing i do for the fins on really dirty machines if i'll take tooth picks and slide them through the tines
lusty galleon
I hate it
odd notch
gets any large debris that air cans wont get
lusty galleon
thats a good idea
I have the laptop hanging a couple inches off a ledge]
it makes me nervous
I kinda hate it
but hey, airflow
the idle temps for most things on this computer are between 50 and 60c
they get from 80 to 90 when im playing gta or doom
odd notch
lmao how does this make you feel
odd notch
this laptop was a 2400 dollar specialty laptop for drawing
then the cpu fan died just out of warranty
lusty galleon
at that point just- im speechless
odd notch
to replace it i need to take it apart entirely screw by screw
i've zipdisc'd off parts of the case for better passive cooling
lusty galleon
with my computer I have to take out a LOT of screws and there are all these connectors that are really fragile and small
and If i rip them the computer probably will never see the light of its display again
its a laptop
odd notch
a magnetic ring or dish will help
odd notch
oh thats not good
lusty galleon
ill even do it again
odd notch
laptops that dont get cleaned die
odd notch
you need to immediately clean it with the toothpicks like i said or you'll end up with a machine like mine
lusty galleon
cause its a very hard computer to take apart
odd notch
what model is it
lusty galleon
its an alienware 18 refurbished version
I think its the newer one
I dont think so
odd notch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O07C0qyuBOk oh this doesnt look that bad
lusty galleon
all I remember was I took it apart 4 years ago cause the SLI was being mean and defaulting to intel graphics and so I just took out on gpu
I think I watched this already
wait
maybe not
odd notch
on my hp its so bad that hp got a tonne of lashback from it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z5iRwyobG4
this guy does it pretty quick but hes not careful at all and you can see how just to clean that fan you cant even take off the bottom panel, everything comes off of the bottom panel instead
the cooling for it is horrible
lusty galleon
I'll look at this tomorrow
when im ready to take it apart I will watch it again
im saving up for a new computer that will have some really good specs
odd notch
yeah don't get a laptop
odd notch
gaming laptop is an oxymoron
lusty galleon
I will instead get a Ryzen 7 3700x, Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 32gb of DDR4 3200mhz ram a 1tb 970 evo and thats mostly the important stuff
odd notch
honestly portability is the least important part for a gaming machine unless you're military
lusty galleon
my computer runs doom (2016) max graphics at 40fps high and as low as 7fps dips
odd notch
thats fair
lusty galleon
im so horrified by the cooling on my laptop im getting grizzly kryonaut thermal paste
odd notch
when that gaming laptops worn out though you could consider uh whats it called, remote play services
lusty galleon
yhats pretty good
unique lilyBOT
Pikmin 4#3510 has been warned
odd notch
shadow thats the name of it
lusty galleon
mine has a 970m (should have 2 but sli is dumb) and an i7-4940mx
mine is gonna total out at around 1900 after taxes I think
odd notch
im trying to work through pc building companies to get my hands on a 5900x with a bunch of money to drop but nearly none of them have a 'no gpu' option
its pretty funny
lusty galleon
hmm
odd notch
i have a 1070ti thats been bottlenecked by my cpu since i got it
lusty galleon
I might get a 5600xt or a 5900x if I have enough
would a 3070 be bottlenecked by a 3700x
I dont think so
odd notch
my cpu is poop enough that i'll be getting 11 times the performance from the 5900x
hyped
lusty galleon
yeah
me too I think
but mine is better so more like 5 times
but thats still a lot
odd notch
this pc was built by some buds of mine but the cpu i didnt know was an i3 dual core
lusty galleon
considering I have been doing a lot of 3d modeling lately
odd notch
it was an upgrade from that thing i'm rigging the thead ripper cooler to
held together with zipties
lusty galleon
the only thing is I feel like getting a 3070 and a 3700x would be wasteful with my 75hz monitor
odd notch
that cpu cooler fell off in the middle of playing warthunder and landed on the back of the graphics card and my friends were like 'thats enough you broke bastard'
lusty galleon
I want at least 144hz for that setup
but wow
thats a bad cooler
im going to die for a couple hours now
odd notch
that machines from 2009
lusty galleon
is grizzly kryonaut overkill for my situation
odd notch
honestly thermal paste is cheap
doesnt make sense to get cheap stuff and they always give you a lot
the noctua thermal paste that comes with their coolers is really good but im not sure who makes the best these days
yeah i've got like two tubes here, the old thermal master white stuff that is like glue and the noctua
one tubes basically a life time supply
some do expire i think though
odd notch
got the hex screws off with improper tools, not enough clearance for the screwdriver hex bits so i used the pliers to get them started so i could unscrew them on an angle
pea sized noctua thermal paste
zipties are part of the mounting since the original peg broke off during warthunder
using the original mounting piece to secure thread ripper cooler
with fans on
and the hd 6850
gonna see if i can get this to run now
low pumice
@odd notch seems a bit cramped for the cooler to get airflow eh?
odd notch
i can move the powersupply its not mounted to anything
low pumice
I mean
odd notch
seems the hard drive i had hooked up didnt have an operating system on it and the keyboard rigged to it only goes to f10
odd notch
because i couldnt use the mounting hardware???????????????
low pumice
Lel
lyric hatch
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Custom-Cooling/Blocks/GPU-Blocks/Hydro-X-Series-XG7-RGB-20-SERIES-GPU-Water-Block-(2080-FE-Rev-B)/p/CX-9020009-WW Does anyone now whether this is compatable with an EVGA 2080 super black gaming? I checked a few weeks ago it is said it wasn't but when i look now it says it is, so I'm confused
alpine crescent
alphacool backed up again for waterblock i may as well save money and get the corsair one when it releases https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Custom-Cooling/Blocks/GPU-Blocks/Hydro-X-Series-XG7-RGB-30-SERIES-GPU-Water-Block/p/CX-9020014-WW
low pumice
uh
alpine crescent
not many options for ventus
low pumice
oh I thought you were talking to the guy before
low pumice
I was like
alpine crescent
ive been waiting w/ aquatuning to get alphacool block for a month
low pumice
3080 and 2080 super are different things
alpine crescent
and they popped it up to another 15 days delay
low pumice
@lyric hatch either way I'd suggest against it
Corsair 20xx GPU blocks had some pretty bad leaking issues
alpine crescent
look at reviews they supposidly fixed the issues
unless it was a person fixing it themselves
whats the model number mr1111
low pumice
@alpine crescent I saw a review AFTER it was supposedly fixed
the guy received an RMAed block
alpine crescent
ah well what is the model number for ur card
low pumice
I'll go help you check in a bit
lyric hatch
thx
alpine crescent
you want clear w/ rgb or doesnt matter?
EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER Black Gaming, 8GB GDDR6, (08G-P4-3081-KR)
is that the card?
alpine crescent
ek doesnt include backplates so you gotta add to it
lyric hatch
ah
alpine crescent
did you register the card
lyric hatch
thats why i wanted to go corsair b
alpine crescent
check to make sure the model number (08G-P4-3081-KR)
lyric hatch
ill let u know in a bit
royal galleon
is the nzxt kraken z73 good at keeping a low temp
odd notch
awww yeah 35c
stone cape
Quick question here, if my case fans are able to be daisy chained, I wouldnt need to get extra fan splitters right?
low pumice
If they come able to be Daisy chained, and you daisy chain them into 1 header, and the combined current of all the Daisy chained fans are below the rated current of the header, yes.
stone cape
Ok thank you!
quartz gale
Opinions on scythe fuma 2?
low pumice
great cooler
proud plume
i need a good rad/pump for my seahawk video card....any good suggestions?
alpine crescent
even so you prob dont want to have more than 3 per header id say
distant kernel
do I need a heatsink/spreader for mp34? I've always used the one that comes with the mobo... unfortunately, I did not get a heatsink with this one, and I don't think there's enough clearance to do a heatsink
used parts 🙄
twin urchin
if it didn't come with one, then you are probably ok
cold sable
How much did the Lian Li uni fans cost before coming out of stock?
burnt goblet
@distant kernel not many ssd's "need" the heatsinks
royal galleon
No
@low pumice so is it bad or is there just stuff thats better
royal galleon
ok but does it cool ok
viral fjord
any recommendations for a single fan with 12V 4pin RGB that's relatively quiet?
distant kernel
@distant kernel not many ssd's "need" the heatsinks
@burnt goblet what about mp34? I've never not used a heatsink or heatspreader before, I need to make sure it'll be alright
viral fjord
@distant kernel i have an HP EX920
i upgraded to a new motherboard recently that includes an M.2 heatsink
my drive temps went from 37C to 37C
so make of that what you will
distant kernel
so it didn't make a difference
viral fjord
it's actually bad for your SSD to be too cold, they have maximum performance around 40C iirc
distant kernel
wait only 37 C?
what
i've been doing reading online and stuff, those things go all the way up to 80-90
viral fjord
i mean it might heat up if i was stressing it
distant kernel
I mean, I trust ur temps was more than the stuff they do on websites..
yeah I'm not pushing it
viral fjord
it's like 33C at idle and 37-40 in gaming when it's loading stuff and my gpu is dumping heat into the case
distant kernel
what software are you using to measure ssd temp?
viral fjord
hwinfo64
distant kernel
yeah
yeah I probably won't be using the ssd a crazy amount, not until directsotrage exists
viral fjord
current idle temp
distant kernel
mostly to boot from, and key files
viral fjord
it's extra cold in my room right now though
viral fjord
it's fluctuating between 29-35 right now while not doing anything
viral fjord
for many ssds if you look under the sticker you'll see a coppery look
distant kernel
why there's different stickers of different materials...
viral fjord
my EX920 does that, i'm not sure about the MP34
viral fjord
when the EX920 is detached from the system if you tilt it at an angle you can see a thin copper surface contacting the flash chips
distant kernel
that's why it says warranty void if sticker removed...
viral fjord
you could check your MP34 if you're curious
viral fjord
i've bought a ton of MP34s but never bothered to look
viral fjord
distant kernel
wa
who
lol i need an nvme drive so badly
system im using has dramless sata ssd
and it's nesrly filled up
viral fjord
like 3/4 of the reviews of the MP34 on pcpp are me
viral fjord
yeah my friend just bought a dramless one i am trying to convince her to return it
distant kernel
which is very bad
capping out at 30 mbps
can only get worse from there
¯_(ツ)_/¯
viral fjord
honestly i just think of the heatsink as an aesthetic thing
the sticker was ugly before cause it was upside down when plugged in
distant kernel
I think it's kinda required on pci-e 4.0 ssds
viral fjord
now i can't see it anymore
never used a pcie 4.0 ssd so i wouldn't know
but you were asking about 3.0 so i can answer that
distant kernel
yeah
i'll have a pci-e 4.0 in my next build, because directstorage
no way im taking any chances- im gonna water cool it lmao
viral fjord
i'll think about upgrading when 1TB doesn't cost $250
distant kernel
ik ik water cooling the ssd is pros overkill
distant kernel
true...
that's something to take into consideration
OH
i could design a stop well, so when it's not under load, the water isn't circulating around the ssd
twilit abyss
theres no way its more than a 2 second difference between 3.0 and 4.0
viral fjord
according to GN an SSD will wear out twice as fast at 25C compared to 40C
distant kernel
theres no way its more than a 2 second difference between 3.0 and 4.0
@twilit abyss it's not about time anymore
twilit abyss
oh, wearing out?
twilit abyss
wait
distant kernel
grrrr go read the convo
viral fjord
not convinced that my drive is going to be a bottleneck for quite a while
i'll buy a pcie4 drive when its price/gb is closer to what pcie3 is now
distant kernel
what if I designed a stopwell for the loop, that can be turned on or off via pwm?
yeah ofc
viral fjord
you could do that
distant kernel
rn the cheapest 4.0 ssd is 150-160
twilit abyss
i mean, i read it but dont know what direct storage is so be back in like 10 mins when i do
viral fjord
lol, i like that answer
viral fjord
well yeah cause then it's not moving to the radiator to be dissipated
distant kernel
so if I design a pwm motor to stop the flow of movement around the ssd when it isn't under load, that should keep it relatively warm
and code it into the bios as a fan, so I can use it as a fan curve
that would be a cool robotics experiment
i've never coded a motor into bios for practical reasons
viral fjord
distant kernel
I know lol
My brain is firing more neurons than droq rn
I need to cad it out
Ty for info and inspiration bleach
viral fjord
mans is about to have the world's fanciest storage setup
distant kernel
I'll ping you in a couple hours when I'm done envisioning it, I don't wanna do a cad before I can actually test my theory abt still water