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cool
Yeah almost 20c cooler lmao
the thermal paste didnt spead enough
I'll be repasting with x method at some point
Top mounting a Corsair H100i radiator and fans at the top, have 2 140mms for the front, 1 120mm for the back, in what way would I get maximum airflow? Would I just go with the same old exhaust on top and in back and intake in the front, like without the AIO?\
Meshify C case
Pea method btw
This is a really nice intel spread I got a few months back. Pea method as well 
not great
I mean it’s just looks good
And it was on the Intel stock heatsink, so the copper the touches the CPU is round
quick question
What’s up
im doing a custom hardline loop in my o11d case and im getting a distro plate. Do i need a resivoir? (ignore poor spelling). It says it comes with a pump. Is it big enough to act as a reservoir too?
Ohkay I literally know nothing about water cooling so idk
lol
ty ty
I think you can get away without one, do some googling
a distro plate works as a reservoir
if it comes with a pump, the only other things you need are the cpu/gpu blocks, radiators, tubing and fittings
Don't be like me and buy like half the fittings I needed :)
@sleek fable ur answer
Hey I am looking into replacing a couple case fans in my pc bc they are loud af. Anyone have any good quit fan recommendations?
Noctua if you have the money
Ok thanks
(also should clarify he's not telling you to be quiet, he means the brand beQuiet XD)
that'd be a big F to assume
Lol ok thank you
is there an aio for amd thredripper
Yup
I think they just use an adapter plate for threadripper, and the aios themselves are interchangeable
TR needs a really big coldplate.
its a chonky boi
Yes
yes
yes
Such big cpu
much cores
wow
What I want to know.... infinity fabric is routed per CCX. since CCX's now have 8 cores, will we see higher core counts in threadrippers?
What you mean past 64?
maybe
Yup
best aio for a am4 socket go
Arctic Freezer II
We already can't really even use anything past the 64 as it is lol
Also depends on the budget Mattee
any budget im big ballin
Custom loop it up then
Don't do custom unless you know what you're doing so
well then
Eh there's plenty of tutorials
true
But if you didn't want to do custom and had no budget, I would just get something from one of the Corsair AIOs with a 360 rad
but ill stick to an AIO
not enough room in my NZXT case
Then a 240?
Yeeeee
my s340 elite has good airflow wym
is there any mass differences between the dark rock pro 4 and the NH-D15 chromax as far as sound or cooling ability?
d15 is a much harder flex
lol
yeah but do you get a noctua sticker with a drp4? didnt think so
oof Arctic freezer II is lowk ugly ngl
lol no stickers
I have a dark rock 4 (non-pro) so I can say it's not super obnoxious? But you can definitely hear it under heavy load
OOF lol
going to be running a 3950x with it
but yea either should be able to handle a 3950x fine
Yeah but the only difference between the non-pro and pro is one's a thicker single tower and the other's a dual tower
cant hang lol
I mean dark rock pro 4 is double the heatsink and double and fans so
well double the heatpipes at least
Like I said, 2 towers but those towers are thinner too
ahhh ok
I mean in terms of sound, cause the fan's the same
The better heat transfer, the lower RPM the fan needs to be at :P
Hmmm there ARE prototypes of heatsinks that ARE cases
ya but those are smol we need a 40L heatsink
thoughts on Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM SE
good
o lord that'd be a big heatsink
it works
i would like to get the nzxt z63 aio but its lowk tooooo exspensive
i mean compared to the corsair one
get one with no rgb fans get one with
and save some money
:P
you know what i mean?
I gotchu lol
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I don't think I've used the cam software
But I've used icue and it seems pretty good
Much better than those STUPID motherboard rgb softwares
Asrock and Gigabyte software = 💩
RGB fusion (gigabyte's) freaking crashes my computer every time I boot it up now
rippp
yeah i def like using icue and cam
im debating if i get nzxt rgb fans or corsair rgb fans?
I would just go with whatever you like the look of better
but is there a way to get only 2 LL120 fans in white besides buying three?
Hmmm no clue
BUT you can use 2 for the aio and then the last one as the exhaust fan at the back?
yeah my s340 elite already came with 2 fans i was gonna just buy two LL120 fans to replace those cause the aio i wanna get comes with 2 LL120 fans as fans for the rad
I've used both CAM and iCue and don't like either. LL120's look better but ML120s will perform better on a radiator
I have a custom loop currently controlled by iCue and its ok but uses so much memory. If everything wasn't rgb in my build I would ditch iCue fully and switch to just aquasuite
I've seen single packs of the LL120s but not the white ones, do you have a local hardware swap? I found one on meetup and I'm sure you could find someone wanting to trade if you can't find them individually
Just get upHere. 4x cheaper then Corsair @uneven halo
Air cooler for 3700X recommendations? Hoping for under $70?
Scythe Ninja 5 whenever in stock
Is that difficult to install? Looks gigantic.
i have a mugen 5 rev b (same company), super easy to install
Oh really?
Should I get diff fans for the rad and just use the rgb fans for exhaust?
do you think i can use the nzxt fans that came with my case as my rad fans?
or are they too weak?
The LL120s you have will be ok it’s just the ML line has a higher static pressure for radiator applications. My wife uses LL120s on her aio and it’s fine.
yeah i mean i dont wanna have them facing backwards cause that kinda kills the rgb look on them so i was gonna use some bequite fans for my rad and take the ll120 for exhaust since ill be able to see them better @faint cave
She has the fans in a push with the radiator behind
oh you took the glass panel off? And see i dont have a glass panel on mine so i cant really see the fans if i do it cause its in a s340 elite but i was gonna put the be quite fans like that and the rad behind and move the LL120 fans to the other side of the case for exhaust
@faint cave
Yeah the glass was so close to the case it didn’t pull good air in. Took ~10 mins to take the glass panel off the front.
@wanton kraken either beQuiet Shadow rock 3 (in stock) or Mugen 5 Rev B (not in stock at any reasonable price) both under $50
should have very similar cooling ability
Ninja 5 also, but is absolutely huge, but only about $60 usually
Shadow rock 3 and mugen have asymmetrical design to accomodate extra tall RAM or anything where RAM clearance might be an issue
a little bit scared cuz ive been running my pc for about a month now and not realizing when i play games like lets say siege my cpu temp it slightly above 80
is that bad, should i get another fan, re apply better thermal paste ? or?
what cpu?
ryzen 5 3600
and running stock cooler?
yes stock
80c under load is fine, i think thermal throttling doesn't kick in until like 95
i mean, lower is always better, but you're still well under the danger zone
yeah @ocean flume so i should be fine long term you think ?
becuz i want this pc to last a bit ya know lmao
i think so, if it would make you more comfortable to reseat/repaste, by all means go for it
but as is, i think you'll be fine
okay
@ocean flume thnx for informing me i just read on how you should be max in 80's and i was a bit worried
if anyone has anything they can tell me ping me
Hey everyone! I recently ordered all the parts for my new build which I'm super excited about, as it's my intro to custom loop water-cooling, but I'm afraid I've made a mistake. I ordered the EKWB Fluid gaming kit that includes the LianLi PC-011 Dynamic case, tubing, fitting, waterblocks, etc. And I mistakenly assumed that due to the price of the EVGA 2080 SUPER KO card that I ordered, that it would be based off of the reference PCB and compatible with that waterblock. However, when I went to double check after ordering (Things are going out of stock left and right, and I had finally gotten a parts list that I was super happy with and everything was in stock), I saw that that particular card wasn't listed on EK's compatibility list. I would've submitted a hardware inquiry, but I'm having issues with their flash player and it won't let me upload the required photos of the card and PCB. Does anyone know if this card is actually compatible? Or should I go ahead and start the return process so I can send it back as soon as I get it?
@heady adder Well... Idk about that. However fluid gaming series has issues with blocks being tightened from factory. So take note of that. Also this kit is about same price for so much more. More rads, RGB, copper loop
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@tough stone You can also try using Ryzen Master to run your cpu in 'eco mode'. it reduces your voltage and temps while losing minimal performance
Do i need to completely clean this till its shiny or no because I'm just reapplying more paste anyway
Might as well keep cleaning
Why?
Its best to remove all the old paste before applying the new
The old paste is only like 3 months old too
Dont matter. Its always best when changing the paste to remove all the old. It will adhere to the metal better that way and get a more even spread
Supposedly some of them also react with each other
depends on brand and the compounds used in manufacturing it
My girlfriends computer is 80-90c under load, 40c idle in bios
We have good cable management and we made sure that the fan and heatsink are properly mounted with thermal paste
What components
what cpu cooler and fans she use
And what do you mean by under load
The cpu is that hot the rest is around 55 gpu is maybe 65 hottest
Like playing a game
also what case does she have
What case, CPU, CPU cooler
^
Ryzen 3600, I believe the stock cooler, and darkFlash Micro ATX Mini ITX Tower MicroATX Computer Case with Door Opening Tempered Glass Side Panel
Might be the case, any added fans?
I know there's 2x 120mm fans for intake
I think she only mentioned those two, though
I was thinking is the lack of outtake the culprit
She'd open the side panel while playing and it dropped 10c
does she have an exhaust port
The case doesn't come with an exhaust fan
120 in the back, 2x120 top
But not currently installed
(we don't have them, that's just the room allowed)
Try buying a Arctic P12 or some similar fan and putting it as exhaust
Only ~10$
Could be easy fix
i dont mean does it come with an exhaust fan, i mean is there anywhere u can put an exhaust port
Yes
Eh sometimes people talk about PCIe ports in the case as intakes in negative pressure builds
So I dunno
She's using a 1070 ti as well so it can get hot in there under load
Not synthetic but games yeah
Synthetic load gets REALLY DAMN HOT
My CPU goes like 60c or so in games
P95 small fft it can go up to 80c
interesting
mine is around 60-70c
Also, just getting 80-90c isn't dangerous or anything, it's when it goes past it becomes an issue
on a good day its around 50
And games arnt exactly the worst case scenario
Side note did she ever mess with the fan profiles
(and try higher fan speeds)
The guy putting it together mightve
Download MSI Dragon center or use the bios to change fan curves
I'll have to give that a shot
But yeah we're in agreeance though that no exhaust + a stock cooler are contributing?
I understand
So I'm assuming exhaust, and weird fan profiles
If we do a bios update (so the chipset can support 3rd Gen) and we reset it to default, will that render the cpu useless?
Depends on what kind of reset, reset like reset cmos, that only resets settings not bios version
If you're like flashing another older bios, that might become an issue
But MOST MSI board have bios flashback if you have a USB stick with bios on it
In this demonstration, we’ll show you how to use Flash BIOS Button with MSI motherboard.
That
No no I'm gonna keep the version just the same, maybe reset the cmos
Yea then you're fine
I've reset cmos plenty of times on my b450 gaming pro carbon ac and it doesn't reset the bios version
Hmm..
The battery is under the gpu I'm sure
Unless there's another conventional way to do it
Jumpers?
It's under the GPU, reset cmos jumpers are optional on boards, not all has them
@desert kayak yeah... That case is very choked for air
two intake at the front basically pulls nothing
given no real decent amount of vents on it
Like... Very thin side grill only right here
is it shame the h500 time again
Airflow > Looks
@magic sparrow you feel watercooling is the best solution for it, using the two fans for outtake and using an aio 2x120mm for intake?
Or use a pull config with the aio for the top and intake for its current position?
Hmm
finding 80mm fans with any LEDs in them is harder than you might think
especially since it's not 2003 anymore
nice lol
my case only has 2x80mm for rear fan mounts
and i was thinking of blinging them up a little, my corsair mouse/kb are blue-lit right now
so i thought of going blue case fans to match
yeah
thermaltake core v1
mini-itx, comes with a 200mm front, and mounts for dual 80mm rear
ah
@desert kayak AIO wont do too much. Just switch to two exhaust fans at the top instead of intake front
fans should be removeable. Screws may be hidden tho
need to remove the front panel
Reason: Bad word usage
Oh shoot
I forgot I have to be careful
Yeah like
The design is bad for the case
Maybe
Hmm..
That would be optimal as well
anyone know of any good fans that can be software controlled, 120mm and have tons of rgb on them?? preferabbly not as expensvie as corsair LL
So LL120 are going to be the best as far as argb. ML120 are better for radiators but still good but still $$$. Do you just want them as case fans or are they for a radiator?
just case fans for now but would like a 240 radiator evnetually
hoping to save up for it anyone, and need new fans anyway
Ah ok well for radiators and rgb ML series fans are pretty much the best. They go upto ~1650rpms but have really good static pressure so are great at pushing air through a radiator. Cooler master mf120r are pretty good and come in a 3 pack for like $60
Thanks man!!!
Need help, Copy/pasted from my post on overclock.net
I've been looking for a CPU pump block combo for a build I've been thinking about for a while. I want to try and build a custom loop into my Silverstone SG13 with no external modification but finding what I need is challenging.
Specifically, I'm going to need a low profile CPU pump/block combo because there's no chance of stuffing a DDC pump anywhere.
I thought I struck gold when I found the Alphacool Eisbaer LT. It seemed perfect, low profile and with G 1/4 threads. But it's impossible to get in the US. It's sold out everywhere and the only place you can buy it is on Aquatuning.us and it's going to cost 60 bucks to ship it from Europe to here.
So my question: is there anywhere else to get one of these blocks or barring that: another way to get ahold of a low profile CPU Pump/block combo unit?
Have you looked on modmymods?
Eh out of stock. The place I get all my water cooling stuff is performance-pcs but they are out of stock as well.
The rad/pump suggestion from Bal3Wolf wont work?
The rad/pump suggestion from Bal3Wolf wont work?
@faint cave
It would be perfect but I'm not seeing a 120mm rad option, the Silverstone SG13 can only fit a thick 120 rad.
Ah only ones I can think of are going to be 120mm aio units then
Yea ive looking into something like a fractal design Kelvin but it doesn't seem like they make them anymore
I just threw away an old corsair aio not sure of the model anymore but it was a 120mm was on a 2700k and when I turned it on after not using it for 5 years could hear it was bone dry
so the pump died?
any case fans yall recommend
anyones with rgb
Noctua if you want to spend the money 🙃
do yall think corsair is overrated
Noctua is the same price as most the mainstream suppliers
with fans
Corsair fans are fairly overpriced but you can't find the looks from anywhere else
I have 4 Corsair fans lying around from AIOs, they are ok, kinda loud tho
If you can just throw 200$ at fans, hell yea get Corsair they look great
yeah i see what you mean
I'm not up to date with cheap rgb fan market but usually there's alternatives for much cheaper
ok i have the aigo rgb fans but im looking for somthing that looks better
It worked great for years and sat in my basement for ~5 years before I tried turning it on, seems all the liquid evaporated
i dont care much for corsair
It worked great for years and sat in my basement for ~5 years before I tried turning it on, seems all the liquid evaporated
@faint cave huh, I've had my Corsair H80i v1 since I was in college back in 2013 and it still works fine. No idea if anything evaporated but I don't hear the pump whining
you can just get noctua for cheaper and they're way better at everything :v
Yeah idk could of gotten messed up in all my moves but it made a really bad noise
I slapped a kraken x62 I had laying around on it with some frankenstein engineering and it now oc's at 5.0ghz stable lol
@acoustic spoke could be pump NOT being used being the issue
Yeah it could of also dried up from not being used, I'm turning that machine into a plex server now with its amazing 650Ti lol
What's the point of a cooling chat if you can't post pictures?
4x200mm Noctua fans eh
I need a new pump
why does no one make cool 140mm fans?
have 3 RGB 120mm intakes the AMD cooler for CPU and a fourth 120mm RGB as exhaust twin 140mm single color exhaust top fans, would like to have a mixed 120mm/140mm RGB solution
is msi frozr L good?
It's decent
My td500 mesh is so cool lol. Gpu peak at 50, hardly ever hit it. Cpu peaks at 65. Everything stays chilly
10/10 would recommend 
yeye
Same, I would love a mesh front for the nzxt h510 elite
if nzxt actually adds mesh front to h510 I will start recommending it
but thats only if and when they do
lowkey could see a h510 mesh
i just want a mesh h1 but people are making vented front panels for it so that’s noice
I want a h710 mesh too then
i'm looking to build my first computer with this setup here https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QK2CQq what would be the best cooler for this that its to expensive
The CPU comes with a cooler that works fine
so the one that cones with it is efficient enough then?
If you’re not overclocking yes
yep
ok thanks. i don't plan on over clocking at least not at first anyways as its not something I've ever needed or done with previous computers.
yeah if yuo overclock you can always upgrade
if i were to over clock in the future what cooler would you recommend. or should i determine that at a later time if i do decide to over clock
uh a good air cooler or AIO would work. Something like a noctua NH-D15 maybe
anyone recommend a twin 140mm rgb fan set?
@calm turtle I don't know what your budget is but, the Corsair LL140's are top of the line. Depends if your build is full RGB or you just don't care. I fully recommend these are great fans and the colors make my build (I have three of them in my case).
^ VERY expensive though. Worth it imo cause I’m an RGB sheep
Is it normal to have a stable 94 c on small ffts on Ryzen 7 3700x with Noctua dh15
@open thunder not sure but that seems quite warm, running an OC?
That's very hot unless you got a hefty OC on it
Even if it has a decent oc I wouldn't like running it on that
Hefty meaning like 1.375v 4.4ghz
Did you put paste on be fore you put the cooler on? Or did you forget to remove the little plastic thing on the cooler??
I had stable 93c or so at 1.35v 4.3ghz under my d15, I know I didn't put enough paste down
P95 smallfft ofc
And if you used the stock paste on the cooler I would remove the cooler clean that up and put better paste on.
?
Stock paste on d15 is nt-h1
Very good paste
Sure like cryonaut is slightly better but I'm pretty sure it's better than like mx4
Ah didn't know they used the nt-h1 paste so scrub that, that is good paste
Stock amd paste is bad but I mean that doesn't come with d15
I used nt-h1 on my video card when I put the water block on. Also used it when I had a Heatkiller IV Trpro on my TR. Switched to Kingpins stuff since it came with my new block and its done better than the nt-h1 for me.
Yea nt h1/h2 is really good paste but not the best, there's better ones like cryonaut and some others
And then there's liquid metal
KPX , gc extreme are some of the best
I would still like to try filling a custom loop with liquid metal
I got a great deal on kpx paste from performance-pcs
https://www.performance-pcs.com/tim-s-pastes-and-pads/kingpin-cooling-kpx-high-performance-thermal-compound-10g-kpx-10g-002.html was 15.99 when I got it but 19.99 isn't bad for 10 grams of it
How so?
Liquid metal
kpx isn't liquid metal
I was talking about filling a loop with liquid metal
OH! yeah wouldn't go there
we're talking about the other thing
https://www.mayhems.net/products/mayhems-biocide-15ml and https://www.mayhems.net/products/mayhems-biocide-15ml are the only things I recommend putting into your loop. Well distilled water as well.
Mayhems Biocide+ is a Broad Spectrum, Highly Concentrated, UV-C Blocker, that is Non-Foaming microbicide. It is based on a concept of Isothiazolone and is completely miscible in water and glycols. It combats al huge range of Fungi, Algae and Negative Bactria and Microorganisms...
Is there anybody here that would like to help me with a CPU fan problem? The fan on my dell motherboard with i5-2400 will get really, really loud on startup and when the CPU gets under abour ~20% load. I can't find a setting in BIOS to change it and I don't know if speedfan will work
what motherboard
Dell 0GDG8Y
Optiplex or what?
dunno then
Volstro I think
Here's what I bought ^
er my bad I mean inspiron
It's an inspiron mobo
You could just replace the fan, it could be bad. From my experience, dell cooling fans are really poor. I got like 20 degrees better temps when I replaced my stock optiplex cpu fan
I've tried 3 different fans...
all do the same thing
and spending more on a fan would mean going over budget
actually wait
Mmm?
I might have found the problem
What's that?
It concerns the pinout and wire placement of the coolers
gimme a few minutes
ok so basically Dell does use the shape of a normal 4 pin PWM header, but the wires are different, Normally, the wires go in this order:
Blue - green - yellow - black (from left to right)
But Dell has to make things complicated and uses blue - yellow - red - black
idk if this is the problem, but so far using a standard Dell cooler is working... I think
Nice. Dell does some weird stuff with fan pinouts
seriosuly. Stupid Dell
on my optiplex board they use a proprietary five pin header
With one pin literally doing nothing
yeah some do that. I have a proprietary 4 pin to 4 pin adapter for those
I just cut the old fan cable off mine and sautered it onto a old case fan
haha nice
omg omg I think I got it
It took some speedfan adjustments but I think I got it
I just gotta fully stress test it now
now maybe I'll set a fan curve for the GPU
oh im so happy
Ey, noice
The fan is really loud for about a minute or two when I boot into widows tho...
I guess that's okay
Uh so there’s a new problem
What now?
When I set the fan to 66% speed or less the fan spins at about 700-800 rpm which makes the cpu very hot but when I switch it to 67% or above the fan spins at about 3000 rpm which is really loud
Oof
gl
think I've heard of that before. But only vaguely remember it, so cant say how to fix
question can i plug a aio pump in to the cpu fan headder on a mobo will it work?
Yes
Should be no problem or the CPU_OPT works as well. It just needs to have a PWM signal
ok
Im guessing its common for them to have a PWM signal when there is only 1 headder for a cpu cooler
oh wait isnt PWM something with how many pins are on the headder
idk im still learning
PWM connectors are just the 4 pin connectors on the mb, CPU, CPU_OPT, CHA_FAN... older motherboards have 3 pin connectors and are DC. PWM allows you to change the speed of the fans/pump where DC not so much. DC fans can run at different speeds but not like PWM fans. Most if not all AIO coolers should be PWM connectors and if your board doesn't have a AIO_PUMP connector then use the CPU_FAN
Almost all fans, even 4 pin fans can vary speeds via dc.
The adjustable range is usually 5-12 volts.
If you have the option of pwm, go pwm.
True but some adjust way better than others
ok so pwm is just better
Yeah they are designed to be set on curves and be adjustable through software pretty much every mb maker has some software to control them in windows, or corsair or other companies as well
is hyper 212 evo rgb edition good for cooling amd ryzen 5 3600
For the price, no
Is there a difference between aio pump header and cpufan?
it shows up differently in bios, and they have different fan curves you can edit
Ty
lol
You trying to level up?
Hah
im just doing this for lvl 3 sry
I needa do that
You should do that in #no-mic-chat it's pretty dead
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-TG-TM01-BR vs Noctua H1 thermal paste
So i haven't used that paste but I was using the Noctura paste and switched to https://www.performance-pcs.com/tim-s-pastes-and-pads/kingpin-cooling-kpx-high-performance-thermal-compound-10g-kpx-10g-002.html. Got a 3c temp drop from the paste switch.
a 10g tube is more than you will ever need for 1 pc and thats cheap
Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut dries up fast it gets hard in 3 months
I've had this on 2 months so far and my temps haven't changed since I put it on, I tried the TGK first and wasn't happy with its performance
TG is overhyped
But you can't go wrong with the noctura paste its great stuff. I have it on my gpu with waterblock and couldn't be happier. Have used it on multiple cpu's in the past as well and its great stuff.
I wonder what the temp different is from h1 to h2 Noctua paste
Probably nothing massive
Only ones I have available but maybe I should get the h2 and see
Gets boring being at home so have done a few rebuilds lol
Designed in Austria, Noctua's premium cooling components are renowned for their superb quietness, exceptional performance and thoroughgoing quality.
Nothing massive
1 c difference is nothing tbh
well I have a TR4 so 2c is not bad
KPX spread when I took off my block. Had a bad mount and had to replace hardware.
Dang and is that a aio
Looks simple I love it
EVGA has to put so much branding on there cards, aio, CPU blocks
They developed a better acrylic top after they shipped it and sent it to me for free so took it apart to switch, dropped my temps more
Nice
10 year warranty, made in Chicago
Nice 10 years is always good
Very cool company, they got behind bc so many preorders then covid happened so they are slowly shipping things out but was way cool of them to send me that top for free and new mounting hardware they developed after their first system broke my board (board was already damaged from aio cooler)
I feel like small businesses always are superior in support and replacements
Some aren't obviously
Their support was dead and silent for like 2 months so it wasn't all good times lol
I tried to ask evga for a FTW3 ultra cooler for my 2070 super Ultra
They said no buy a new card
I heard a story of some guy who's zotac 1080 ti had died and zotac gave him a free 2080ti
Sounds over the top to me probably a tech YouTuber lol
I had luck like that way way back in the day
bought the 1st gen Alienware laptop had dual geforce gtx 260 mobiles in it was sweet (was a graduation gift)
3 1/2 months later one dies
The video cards in it are left and right, they can only git one weay
Well repair guy comes out and brings a left one, my right card was dead
3 weeks go by before they can get the card and come back
When he comes back he has 2 cards, both gtx 280s and replaced both cards
Wow nice
My graduation gift was a massive 3,000 computer upgrade
I graduated couple weeks ago. Very nice
I still have that 50lb laptop lol
lol its a core 2 duo it gets hot
Idc
lol can get some cheap old pcs at goodwill if you want to collect things like that
I got a desktop with i3 second gen from a buddy for free the motherboard blew on the south bridge side
No wear anywhere
I have a few graveyard pc's in the basement.... athlon64, core 2 duo e8600, an i7 920, an i7 2700k then the Alienware laptop with a core2 duo and an xps laptop with a P4
Oldest computer I got is a IBM PS/2 model 55 SX. I got it from my school for free
My older ones have gotten thrown away over moves. 486dx2 was the fast cpu when I was a kid so.....
I wasn't born back in the 90s I was burn in 2001 so I don't know how to use it. I have to get a new hdd for it though.
I was born in 1981 so have seen all the advancements in computers
Yup I seen it by video, some old pcs in person because I collect them.
I built my first computer in 2015.
I don't have it anymore. I just have the CPU that's all
I threw it out the Rx 480 I had in it blew the board
My first PC build
Nice job with the cables for a first build
Thanks I was extremely ocd about it
My first (and current) build has terrible cable Management
Try running the cables for 20 fans 10 of which also have rgb cables.... lol
Oof
I would show a picture of the back of my PC but I won't be able to close it again
And that's with 4 fans
Lol
lol should spend a day and slowly clean it up to how you like it, good practice for next build
Yeah ik but tbh I'm too lazy for that
I get to hide my mess with a PSU shroud
lol turn your case around and do it as you chat 🙂
As long as you don't upgrade anything that needs to get into the back of the case.....
Heh, got excited for a sec at the reflection of your keyboard
Razers Mecha-Membrane keyboard it's not as people think
As bad
Note I never used a mechanic keyboard so I don't know the difference
If it has a cherry Mx switch it’s good
hey guys, can dust cause heating issues in a pc, how often should I clean it, and what parts do I need to clean?
I mean yeah eventually it'll cause issues so just clean it whenever it gets pretty dirty with compressed air
@unkempt spire canned air is good blow out fans and cooling fins. I recommend a Datavac https://www.amazon.com/Metro-DataVac-500-Watt-0-75-HP-Electric/dp/B001J4ZOAW will last longer, more powerful and can be used for more than cleaning a pc
are there any guides for this in order to make sure I clean every part of it?
With a datavac just aim and turn it on it will blow any dust out of all the hiding spots
ah okay ill look into that thanks man
Once you use a mechanic keyboard you can never go na
^ every membrane keyboard I’ve used just feels mushy and inconsistent now. That being said I don’t think I’d like mecha membranes CAuse I never liked clicky switches anyways
I just upgraded from a deepcool gammaxx 400 to a dark rock 4
but my temps are worse than they were, I've repasted and reseated it twice
it seems like it's making good contact
but everything is 4 degrees hotter and it doesn't make much sense to me
dark rock 4 has a 70 watt higher tdp rating and is double the price. It's a much better cooler.
You sure?
Gammaxx 400 is an extremely respectable cooler at it's price
I'd say its close to matching the dark rock 4
oh someone had said I should upgrade to the dark rock 4 from the gammaxx 400 so I just dropped $80 on a new cooler
since my temperatures are 88-90C
I just wanted to get temps to 85C but this is even worse and it shouldn't be
a dark rock 4 should be able to handle an 8600k at 5ghz 1.275 volts, right?
I dunno, don't got a dark rock 4 or a similar cooler or a similar chip lol
I'm just lost because the 8600k is no where near the 200watt tdp limit of the cooler
Also just for reference Gammaxx 400 beats nh U12s in testing
@subtle flower I wonder if fan curves could be messed up
What paste did you use?
Was there good spread on the heatsink when you took it off?
Dot or x method
I know the dark rock 4 can handle this chip
I like to spread the paste out into a flat even layer across the entire IHS
I had a friend with a dark rock 4 and an 8600k at 1.325 at 5.3ghz
Usually people don't have an applicator around so x method usually is a good idea
Anyways fan curves check that
I just never had an issue where I needed an aplicator
100% fan speed at 85
still hitting 90
Try spreading the paste see if an even application turns out better. Also if you can take a pic of the spread on the heatsink and the IHS so we can see if its getting good spread
alright. this ain't my first build, never had a problem with the cpu temps like this, figured people here may be able to help me too since it's probably obvious
Might be just some manufacturing defect in your dark rock 4
Just turned the PC off after like 8 cinebench runs
The dark rock 4 is barely warm to the touch
Idk how it can be a bad mount still
well the paste spread will tell us if its making good contact
The corners look like the paste is a little thick still, sure it was screwed down tight enough?
It was screwed so tight that I stripped one a little
Like
I would've snapped the board in half any tighter
I got pissed the first time and really screwed it on
oh if its stripped it might not be holding that corner on tight enough, you didn't use an electric screw driver did you? 😦
I dunno about dark rock but did it come with different brackets?
Ew no electric scree drivers
whew ok
(I mean sometimes it uses different backplate and bracket than stock)
whew that you didn't use an electric screwdriver that torque could of screwed things up
But prob not
Look
It's not on tight enough
But how is that possible
All the screws are as tight as possible
That looks like it was making good contact
are those stand offs on the mb from intel or darkrock?
Dark rock
My mb didn't come with standoffs.
Didn't come with anything really
Got it used for $35
MSI Z370 a pro
Do they possibly mount the other way? With the raised part going down?
No because the cooler only has 2 screws instead of the 4
I'll be honest this is one of the cleanest spreads ive ever had
I use the line method
Half length line down the middle
ah ok let me look through the manual for it real fast
The intel spacer nuts fully screwed into the backplate?
your cpu is socket 1155?
Spacer nuts? Ones in the front that connect to the backplate screws?
sorry was looking at the wrong intel instructions
so are the spacers fully screwed down onto the backplate screws?
Screw the Intel 115X/1366 nuts (8) onto the previously
positioned Intel backplate (3). Then position the Intel mounting
brackets (4) over the Intel 115X/1366 nuts (8) and affix these
with the mounting bracket fastening screws (10). You can use
the cross-tip screwdriver for this (15).
Welp
One of them just tightened slightly
I stg I checked all these the first time
There's absolutely nowhere to get a low profile cup pump/block combo without spending 120 bucks
Those expensive
Air cooling >
I'mma undo all these screws
Redo them
See what kinda temps I get
Try to go in a X pattern when redoing them and even after you get all 4 go back and just try to finger twist each a tiny bit more
Oh I know that
Not really, they go for 60-70 bucks but the only place to get them is Europe and its 60 bucks for shipping to the US 
That's like
Machining 101 you always do that
Also
Idk if this is a myth but do you have to repaste Everytime the cooler is taken off? I've always done it
But I go through ridiculous amounts of thermal paste
Yeah bc who knows what kind of dust fell into it
I learned all I know about building computers from my dad
He told me Everytime you take it off you clean it and redo paste
Thats the golden rule, good luck getting it back together with good temps I need some sleep
Didn't have a spacer and said f it
Oof
It's worked fine for the last 2 years
Just buy one lol
I just blew all my overtime hours on this dark rock 4, dead broke.
But this dark rock 4 is performing less than my gammaxx 400 and we trying to figure out why
$80 200watt CPU cooler should not be considerably worse than a $30 130 watt cooler
Okay
Third mounts the charm, right?
😳
I swear if this doesn't work I'mma be the biggest sad
:(
Now my computer is power cycling
Uhm
Wtf
Power supply was off no static as I made sure to ground myself
Uhm
What
Reason: Bad word usage
My cooler probably damaged one of my ram sticks
I took out the last 3
Well first 3
All but slot 4
And it booted
Did it touch then in any way?
It barely has any overhead over slot 1
Likr
.25 mm I tested it with a plastic paperclic to make sure no contact was being made
I might've bonked it putting it on
I'mma put sticks in 1 by 1 to make sure I broke a stick and not the slot
Posts with 3 and 4
Boots with 2 3 and 4
Really hope slot 1 isn't busted
At least I can still run 16-24gb if it is
Oh thank good
I just unseated the ram
My heart dude
🙏 😔
That's the scariest thing
Now to cinebench and see if temps still dying
My finely tuned 20% ram overclock is gone now and idk where my overclocking journal is
There we go!
84° with 1.33v 5ghz. That's slightly higher voltage and better temps!
My room is also 78° F rn so that's surely adding to it
Now imma be greedy and try 5.1
What parts will have their cooling benefitted the most by adding more fans to increase airflow
Yes
lol okay thanks
CPU and GPU will probably get the most, but that's really dependant on the rest of the case and cooling
if I have an aio for my cpu is that going to help it at all?
For the CPU probably not that much then
okay thanks for the help 🙂
whats a good temp under max load for an i7 8700k
Is a Ryzen stock cooler good enough (rtx 1660 with a ryzen 5 2600)
Yes
Best way to clean a aio radiator?
probably just dust off fan and fins with compressed air, aio's shouldn't need to be cleaned any further like custom loops need to
I have 3 dogs so i get alot of hair and dust on my fans and the front of radiator
@coral agate Datavac. It’s like a small air compressor for cleaning out things. They are amazing and well worth the money over canned air. Great for anything where dust and dog hair can get stuck not just computers.
Hey guys, quick question, do you think i could watercool a 2060 oc and a ryzen 5 3600 out of a modified 140mm AIO?
it should be fine as long as its a decent aio and you have a ventilated case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7gF7jFuiU
Build video: https://youtu.be/a3MduBQ4A30
GPU undervolting guide: https://youtu.be/zUkPAVcb9Xc
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hey, is it usufull to put 2 fans on a hyper 212 evo ? and also those are not the same fans is it bad ? thank you
Different fans only makes a diffrence to how it looks.
There won't be any harm from having two fans over one
ok ok thank you
Anyone use this AIO or know if its any good? ID-COOLING ZOOMFLOW 240X
yo wtf is up with my cpu cooling rn man I've done Cinebench twice at 100 percent load with my i7-8700k and it's hitting like 85-90C in like 15 seconds
thing is though is that it was able to keep a much better temp like a month ago for 15 minutes (like 75-80C) on prime 95 just a month ago
question the h100i should be compatible with the ryzen 7 3700x right
@unkempt spire might of been a bad thermal paste application
@cold island okay yeah to be fair mine is a prebuilt and I never checked the thermal paste, but its just weird because it was fine not too long ago
does that line up with bad thermal paste application, where it was better in the past but started to get hotter now?
i dont know if it'd be that much of a difference, but its pretty common and easy to rule out. is it overclocked at all?
it isn't manually overclocked but it has the turbo boost thing and goes up to 4.3 ghz under load, but even right now the idle temps are like 40 to 50 C
if its idling that high (i assume it was idling much lower before) i think it wouldnt be something with the voltage being weird, did you change any settings related to the cpu?
nope not at all
the only thing i have done in the bios since ive got it was turn on XMP for my Ram
if you can easily just take off the cpu cooler and repaste it i would suggest doing that, if it isnt a bad thermal paste application you can at least narrow it down without much effort
yeah ill look into it, it might be because my aio is only 120mm but i heard plenty of people have done fine with those, ill go to best buy and buy some thermal paste to reapply, also I'll clean the dust out of the radiator.
do you have any thermal paste brands you reccoment?
a 120mm aio should be enough to handle it decently or at least okay
@low pumice gib thermal paste advice
yeah because before this i believe my 120mm has been totally fine, also I plan to get a better cooler for it sometime in the future anyway
nt-h1, mx4, arctic silver 5 and kryonaut are all pretty good iirc
aight ill keep that in mind, also, since i didnt actually build this system so i dont know what I am looking for, how would I know what bad thermal paste application looks like?
something like this isnt the best
aight, and one more thing (thanks for the help, i really appreciate it btw), how do I remove the old thermal paste safely so I can reapply?
usually you can get the majority off with a paper towel and then use rubbing alcohol to get the rest off
okay sounds good, I'll probably go to best buy tomorrow to grab that thermal paste, thanks for the help.
man honestly im starting to wish i had built my pc to avoid stuff like this, but i know i wouldnt have been able to due to it being the end of the school year and i was super stressed when i was finally able to get it last year so there was no way that I was going to be able to learn how to build one and do it at that time lol
Yes
P95 and Cinebench are two different workloads. Depending on whether you're using the AVX version for one or both of the workloads and the AVX offset you have the workloads can get vastly different temps
Whelp, trying to get ahold of a CPU pump/block combo that will fit has failed, I'm reduced to trying to fit a Bylski DDC pump in a Silverstone SG13. Wish me luck.
something like an eisbaer lt solo doesnt work?
No it would be perfect but the ONLY place that has one is Aquatune.us and they are in Europe. It's gonna cost the same as the part to get it shipped.
ahh i see that sucks
I hope it's just a supply issue and Alphacool isn't discontinuing it.
i think stock is just super low and the whole covid thing, it suck if they discontinued it because then the only other solid option would be something like the apogee drive 2
Yea which is tall AF and just straight wouldn't work for what I need.
Keep an eye on https://www.performance-pcs.com best place for water cooling stuff and they restock a lot. May be worth even calling them.
Performance-PCs.com Homepage and Website Home
Their website is horrible btw
Hey, so I got this i5 9700KF to go with my gpu, and I'm imagining the stock cooler is going to be garbage so I got the cheapest and best I could find... It's a CPU Artic Freezer 34 eSports, I usually don't even playing demanding games at all but I want it to be good in idle and in casual games. DM me if you want link
make sure you have the fan on that blowing toward the back of the case through the grills and have an exhaust fan blowing out. If you have a standard atx case that is lol.
anyone use the Corsair Hydro Series, H100i RGB PLATINUM SE?
and is it pretty good with cooling?
i had an H100i, loved it, went w/ a diff one b/c i wanted a 360 and the H150i has been OOS or $250+
alright cause i think i might get
Is the cooler master 360mm aio good?
So I just built a portable Mitx build. It’s running an I-5 9600k. With a noctua L9a. It’s idling at around 48C. In bios. It throttles as soon as I go into windows. Does anyone have some tips?
What thermal paste did you use?
I used the noctua one that it came with and when it throttled I cleaned it off and made sure that the little plastic peel wasn’t there and I replaced it with artic silver 5
Heinz mustard
I’ve even turned the cooler up to max fan speed and am getting the same temps
That's what happens when you try to put the sun into a small box.
I don’t even have the side panels on. It’s running fully open air
I did a pea drop the first time and an x the second

I did that for a meme cuz I had old paste left over but yeah spread it over very thinly
I guess it’s possible the l9i can’t cool the cpu well enough. Do you guys have any recommendations. I’ll just return the L9i if I determine that to be the problem.
Never put an Intep into a sff
I think I’ve learned that one lol
can someone link me a decently priced aio? for 10900k overclocked 240mm plz?
Get 280 or 360.
Preferably a water chiller.
Also you may need to relocate to Pluto for better usage of it.
bangs head into wall repeatedly
spaghetti
My new Alphacool Rad won't fit because it has two openings on either side fittings.
I don't understand why people do SSF.
It's hitting the GPU
I don't understand why people do SSF.
@sharp plaza
Because I want to be able to flex with a fully custom loop in a SFF box.
Clout is a helluva drug
You have no custom loop.
The idea was that I would. I might still be ok. I think I can tilt the rad and drill out 2 mounting point holes to secure it.
Barring that, return the rad and get one with 2 ports on the same side.
mount a custom loop in a gaming chair
custom loops in sff give hella clout
Ehh been done
Leggo
custom loops in sff give hella clout
@azure crown
https://media.tenor.com/images/a1dffc2e2e3baa4ced5474a8bf6410be/tenor.gif
can someone dm me about a aio i need help please]
no just ask here
whats with you people and DMs, damn
everyones always like "dm me plz thx"
it's usually when people are still restricted from posting links
they should learn to ask, otherwise i get roped into helping someone that i might not be able to help
very few people here will willingly dm some random person who needs help
yes
but youre buying a 10900k, or do you already have one?
and
your paying a ton of money for a h100i?
i assume you plan to overclock?
yes
nice
will it handle it well?
make sure you get a saucy board, theres a GN video that details all the Z490 motherboards
the 10900k is not as hot as the 9900k
they made physical improvements to the chip and IHS to improve heat transfer
thats good news im planning on getting the ASUS Intel Z490 ROG STRIX Z490-G GAMING MicroATX Motherboard
thats a good one
apevia case fans, any good? looking at a 3 pack of white led ring fans, 17 bucks on amazon
i know their PSU's are hit/miss
If you've got 10900k + z490 money, I'd invest in an h115i, 150i, or x63/x72
Better yet, build a loop
Build a loop. It’s fun and addictive.
that sounds exactly the opposite of what I’d want ngl I don’t need another addiction
that’s why I’m poor no temptation ez
He's using a 10900K, only thing that makes sense is a loop.
We have liquid cooling and air cooling.... where's my solid cooling?
https://newatlas.com/ge-dual-piezo-cooling-jet/25447/
Not solid colling, but pretty darn cool
didn’t that get tested by somebody and it sucked
I haven't seen any tests of it. I'm looking right now though
I found an LTT video with thermoelectric coolers
Those apparaently do suck. Still looking for piezo
LTT made it suck more tho
failed to do correct voltage/current or smth, cant remember now
just pushed more in because they thought "more = better" when it didnt
but even at best, thermoelectric probs still sucks anyways. So meh
There's some cool tech out there with piezo
I found a video where they put the thing in a laptop, but they never say how well it worked https://youtu.be/Hm5fXj-hUpk
GE's DCJ technology is an advanced cooling solution for the next generation of thinner, quieter and more powerful tablets, laptops and other electronic devices. These devices, as thin as a credit card, are half as thick as conventional cooling fans and use half the energy. And...
would an AIO make it cooler or?
Stock isn't meant for keeping it at 30c :p. <95c is safe and you don't have to be concerned with temps <90c
ahaha so idk if my cooling is trash or the game is saying gpu temp, but my temps are pretty dang high
like constant 80-90
and with a noctua I feel like that shouldnt happen
It's because TSMC stuck too many transistor's in a small dense place and now they get hot.
I would use a program such as hardware info or equivalent, fire up your favorite smash 'em up and monitor your cpu and gpu temps. I use msi Afterburner to control gpu fan speed with a custom profile for gaming temperature wise, but you could do it simple and just crank the fans up to desired audible level you can withstand :) also I have same cpu and stock cooler and if you are saying you are getting 90° with a noctua cooler or noctua thermal paste for that matter, then you need to start looking for a remedy. Something is amiss. Dust? Old thermal paste? Original paste that had crumbled like a cherry cobbler? Time to investigate! @regal plaza
i got no idea if the game is recording gpu or cpu
if I figure that out I got everything else
That's where hardware info program or equivalent comes in. It will show you each
Cpu and gpu temps. I would trust that vs any game that is reporting
ah nvm its gpu
I throw it on my second monitor and watch it and adjust from there. Give Msi Afterburner a spin. You can setup a custom fan curve, or just setup a simple profile that you can dictate a % of fan speed to
Imho if you are still getting 90° + temps with a fan speed of like 85-100% (100% being jet engine takeoff mode) I would replace the thermal pad/paste that is used on your gpu whichever it may be
Or just use a better cooler because AMD's 7nm is hot and loud.
Think he is talking about his gpu ? I could be wrong though. I'm in serious coffee debt rn
Brain can't function properly
Hot and loud describes my 8 yr old I7-4930k 😁
In my old rig
That's just user error. 
It's hungry
Ok I must bathe in a vat of coffee now to appease the bean gods. Have a great day all, stay safe and happy! 🖖

If AMD is hot and loud is Intel a burning inferno screeching to make your ears bleed? Last I checked AMD was better then Intel
What?
What indeed
Interesting, why does a 3970X at 4.5GHz require a water chiller to run then?
Interesting, why does a W-3175X at 5GHz require a water chiller to run then?
That's a stupid question.
oh really? Then I guess yours was too. Good call on figuring that out

Like, massively
AMD uses turtle cores and cache.
and?
AMD is third wheeling the tech industry
and?
You're a troll.
and?

Umm, Kettle ... pot ... hwat?


why does my ryzen 5 3600 run so hot?
@uneven halo
Because it's constantly trying to OC itself. Water-cooling would help and possibly let it auto OC itself higher because of better thermals.
why does this one guy seem to have a thing for trashing AMD whenever they're brought up?
Because he does.
Actually it's not just AMD. He much much trashes anything anyone says.
It's hard to tell with him.
Can't tell if diehard Intel fan or just trolling.
Yeah I was running aids 64 for like 30 min and the temps were around 87-90





