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cobalt lark
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I can't find an h500 for that price

low pumice
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it's oos

cobalt lark
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?

maiden delta
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Sadly

cobalt lark
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ohh

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out of stock

maiden delta
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Out of stock

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Yes

cobalt lark
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Any other case?

low pumice
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p400a

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td500 mesh

maiden delta
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Td500 mesh is about to drop

low pumice
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ya

maiden delta
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I'm stoked for it

low pumice
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mhm

maiden delta
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Great looking and performing case imo

low pumice
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gonna be neat

cobalt lark
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for how much

maiden delta
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100

cobalt lark
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Hmm

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It does look nice

cobalt lark
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damn it's sexy

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in white

maiden delta
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Yessir

cobalt lark
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okay td500 mesh is a go

low pumice
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I like it better in white than black :P

cobalt lark
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Same

maiden delta
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Same

cobalt lark
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Is there a good cooler in white under 60$?

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CPU

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Cooler

low pumice
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lemme check

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Hei linked one ages ago

cobalt lark
low pumice
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yea this thinghttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N2NMUWJ

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@cobalt lark great cooler

cobalt lark
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Which is better, the one you linked me or the one I linked

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I do like the look of the one you linked me more than the one I linked

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Because that beige and brown is

low pumice
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but noctua is just amazing

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great fans great heatsinks

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its for performance not looks

cobalt lark
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Okay Noctua it is

low pumice
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@cobalt lark if you want to have a white theme, you can go the neptwine thingy

cobalt lark
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Which is better, the F12 PWM PST or regular F12

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@low pumice

low pumice
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pwm so you can control it with fan curves nd stuff

cobalt lark
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Ok

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There

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Those are the next things I buy after I get my GPU

low pumice
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fair nuff

cobalt lark
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Any changes or no?

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Is itgood

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Is it good*

low pumice
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it gud

cobalt lark
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Okay, thanks for your help

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One more question

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How do I know if my fan is pushing or pulling air

low pumice
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Just so you know, if you reuse the cooler for newer stuff, noctua ships free mounting brackets

cobalt lark
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Ok thanks

low pumice
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I usually just plug it in and look

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:p

cobalt lark
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What do you mean?

low pumice
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you could just plug the header in

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and feel the air

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without like screwing in the fan

cobalt lark
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Okay thanks!

maiden delta
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I do that too lol

cobalt lark
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So lets say I put my hand on one side, the air is going out the other, it would be pushing?

cobalt lark
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?

ancient brook
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@cobalt lark @ him but since it’s so late he probably won’t respond

cobalt lark
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@maiden delta @low pumice

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Also, what would be better, getting a new case or getting an ssd

low pumice
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@cobalt lark I mean fans pull air in from one side and push out the other end..?

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SSD case your choice

granite patrol
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if you dont have an ssd def go for it

opaque bay
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ohiya

cobalt lark
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Yeah I only have an HDD

low pumice
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dont think so

river gorge
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yeah if you can fit it in your case

cobalt lark
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Uhh which person should I agree with?..

granite patrol
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you might want to get a bit higher capacity ssd

low pumice
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Why a U12a @cobalt lark ?

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at 100$ might as well get a NH-D15s or something

maiden delta
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They make a d15 in white right?

low pumice
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not sure

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in black yes

burnt goblet
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"noctua" and "black" are the options

magic wave
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hehe

maiden delta
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Ok lol

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Which one does jp have then?

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Nvm found it. He has white chromax heatsink covers on his black model

chrome cedar
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or you spray paint one of em

stone jackal
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dont paint heatsink

cobalt lark
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@low pumice I heard it was the best of Noctua

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Is it not?

low pumice
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not at that price no

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D15s is good

cobalt lark
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Is the AIO I linked as good as it?

burnt goblet
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@stone jackal if you are not silly about the choice of paint, it is not a problem

stone jackal
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Yeah Naed but like regular spraypaint wont work right

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itll melt or something?

burnt goblet
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again, "if you are not silly about the choice of paint...."

stone jackal
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Yep

burnt goblet
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also, keep in mind, what is regular for you might not be regular other places in the world :)

stone jackal
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For sure

cobalt lark
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@low pumice Is the AIO better or as good?

low pumice
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about the same but more expensive

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@cobalt lark idk the difference, but the non-revised version is worse than the d15

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the revised version is the same

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I'd rather not deal with AIOs but meh

cobalt lark
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How do I know which is the revised and which isn't the revised version?

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Is it just which is newer?

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@low pumice

low pumice
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idfk

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I quickly googled results

cobalt lark
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Oh

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It's alright

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Thanks for the help thoguh

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though

sharp sluice
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Ryzen 9 3900X, stock cooler okay or should I get an AIO?

maiden delta
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It'll be fine. An aio wouldn't be much better if any

chrome cedar
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stock cooler can work, but if you oc you should probably get either a good air cooler or good aio

maiden delta
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D15 ftw

topaz blaze
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What fan placement (given I only have 3 fans) are best for CPU cooling?

chrome cedar
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2 intake 1 outtake probably

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2 fans in the front, and one rear exhaust

topaz blaze
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The rear one being outtake?

chrome cedar
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yes

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so air move from front to back

topaz blaze
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Alrighty, I’ll get to it soon

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Thanks

chrome cedar
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np

upper sluice
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So I have a dell g7 laptop and I get temps up to like 80-85 playing rust but my frames drop for about 10-15 seconds from 60 to 3. How do I keep my laptop cooler

bronze summit
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Hey guys I need help, so on Newegg it shows that my package is being delivered to a different address...

chrome cedar
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we said a little earlier but if you didn't already DM @real coyote about order issues

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you might be able to get it changed if it hasn't been delivered alreaduy

magic wave
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Oof

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Asks one thermal throttling question and skips town

topaz blaze
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Just.. you know.. chuck ice in there.

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100% safe

burnt goblet
severe raven
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does anyone know any full face waterblocks for the FE 2070 super?

magic sparrow
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@severe raven

severe raven
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Thank you!

hasty shell
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This is my current build, but the stock cooler isnt cooling my pc down enough and for most projects for my work, it's at around 88 to 93 c https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sb6BL2

So I was looking into getting a nzxt radiator. However I realized that if I were to install the radiator, it would replace my 3 intake fans on the front of my case bc theres no other location for it. That being said, would that be an issue for this build?

jagged flare
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It would reduce airflow because you are putting a blocker infront of it

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But i shouldnt Affect airflow that much

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It

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I have my two front intakes for my radiator collets and my gpu doest get too hot. And my cpu almost never reaches about 50-60

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Above 50-60

hasty shell
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So if I were to get a nzxt x73 or whatever model radiator I decide on after doing research, I wouldnt risk compromising my system?

surreal delta
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What is the best cheap rgb fans for h710

silent raptor
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What size do you need? In Win's Sirius Loop 120s are quite good (have both daisy chainable power and RGB) and 3-packs are super cheap for a known brand (around $40 USD)

heady gust
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actually for $25 @silent raptor

little skiff
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what's 25 dollars?

pastel kayak
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Hello All got a question here

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I have a case with 3 frontal rgb fans and space for two on the right side (where mobo sits) its my second build ever so kinda new do the fan on the sides go intake or outtake? thank you!

late talon
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Hi i have a question. I am currently using my 3600x stock cooler and my temps are 50ish idle and 75-80 under load with fans at max speed. Is it worth upgrading fan to a hyper 212 black edition? I don't really care that much about noise.

cold island
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80c under load is fine, I’d keep the stock cooler

maiden delta
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Also a hyper 212 wouldn't be much better anyway. Stick with the stock cooler tupb

late talon
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ok tanks

maiden delta
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Welcome

hasty shell
rugged nimbus
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Don't go Corsair unless you have $200 to spare :)
Find some cheap, decent brand ones that doesn't use a proprietary RGB hub if you can

topaz blaze
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I would like to get a in win 101c case, what AIO and fans should I get with what config?

undone bane
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yes cool cooling 🙂

topaz blaze
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yo anyone know nice cooling cause on newegg i find good cooling but way overpriced i found good cooling but then lost it in my cart

rugged nimbus
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What type of cooling

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Like "good cooling" is a very broad area. You could be referring to air conditioning for all we know

topaz blaze
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i mean like case fans

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under like 50 bucks

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doesn't have to be rgb

low pumice
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@topaz blaze Arctic F12 120mm fans and F14 140mm fans for case fans.

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Usually about 7$ per fan

topaz blaze
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thanks

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and me too r6 gang

low pumice
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And Around 38$ or so for a 5 pack

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Nice

topaz blaze
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thanks bro for helping me

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i been stuck

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trying to find good fans

low pumice
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They're pretty good

topaz blaze
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also

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the prices are a little more cause i am in CAD but thanks

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these are cheaper

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than the ones found

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they also give 5 fans instead of 2

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@low pumice Thanks

low pumice
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You're welcome

topaz blaze
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😄

maiden delta
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So i was stress testing my 3600 and temps are looking pretty crispy on the stock cooler lol

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It's interesting tho because my top exhaust isn't even hot

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The poor guy is trying so hard 😂

river gorge
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woo

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that's almost about to break temps

maiden delta
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ya

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It'll cool down in 5 mins when the render is over

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I wouldn't want to keep it at that for long

prime ocean
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iam box

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y u add a space

maiden delta
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Huh? So the render ended and within 10 seconds my temps dropped to this. Pretty sure heat doesn't just disappear like that. I think my reading is off

low pumice
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80 some is normal

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yea it does

maiden delta
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it is a wraith stealth after all

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oh ok

low pumice
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It just stops producing that much heat

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but at the exact same moment the cooler is taking away the same amount of heat

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the fins will still be hot but the package would just drop in temp

maiden delta
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ok

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Still saving for a custom loop

river gorge
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87c

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ooof

maiden delta
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what's 87?

river gorge
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188F

maiden delta
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uh ok

prime ocean
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u can cook an egg

maiden delta
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you can cook a lot of stuff

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I am still surprised that my exhaust fans weren't really putting out hot air tho

prime ocean
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yeah my exhaust fans don't put out much under any scenario

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its interesting

topaz blaze
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Haha, I got attacked by someone on a different (major brand) discord for converting C to F a few hours ago.

final crescent
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some people take their C temps seriously lol

topaz blaze
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I think they tend to forget that the average user in the US doesn't have much of a clue what hot is in C. I even told him I used both, didn't help.

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But hey, they were talking about temps in the 180s, and my system runs full tilt at 105. -le shrug-

final crescent
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they don't care, i am from US and i know what temps are hot vs cool for my PC but if someone said "it's 38C outside" i'd be like "hot?" lol

rugged nimbus
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We're the idiots who stuck with °F

low pumice
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well

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general rules is 30c+ is hot for people

topaz blaze
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I mean most the time when I was a troubleshooter I was dealing with people who really had no clue, that's the whole reason I was there in the first place.

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They all thought the temps were fine, so I just left the server at that point.

open ravine
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Hey guys, ping or dm me if you got an answer, but does it matter which direction your aio is facing? I mean it's clearly not on a CPU right now since its not in yet, but once I pop the CPU in and place the pump as is, should it work fine? Thanks!

sharp zinc
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no as long as it fits on right. it should only be able to fit in 2 directions. If you can make the logo face the right way, do that.I believe most people have the tubes come down and loop back up but iunno.

spark scarab
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Actually the way It looks in the PIC looks Decent to be honest

topaz blaze
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anyone have a recommendation for rgb fans

inner hamlet
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are you looking for just rgb or ARGB?

topaz blaze
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RGB

inner hamlet
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Hmm. i used to have enermax RGB fans that worked and looked really nice

topaz blaze
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Same here

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i have them currently

final crescent
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saw on Amazon some Corsair ML120 3pk for around $85

inner hamlet
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Corsair has some really nice fans and the Icue software lets you do some really cool things with the lights. i had some on my last build

final crescent
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i have the h100i on my CPU w/ two fans right now, i really like their stuff

inner hamlet
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if i had the money to have bought enough corsair fains i totally would have

topaz blaze
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idk i dont like the lighting on the fans, but i like the light ring around the fans

stone jackal
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I got a 5 pack of Darkflash fans for $30 off Amazon

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They don’t have the ring of light though

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But you can find cheap packs on amazon with a ring

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Or Newegg probably

little skiff
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There was a really nice five pack of RGB fans I wanted, but they seem to have been discontinued.

calm flint
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is there any difference in cooling performance between air coolers where the heatsinks and an is like directly on the mb vs the ones where they sit on top facing out towards the rear fan? sorry if that was bad wording I dont know what to properly call them

magic sparrow
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5 pack of RGB fans go for $40 usually

burnt goblet
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@calm flint not really

silent raptor
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Hmm. i used to have enermax RGB fans that worked and looked really nice```

@inner hamlet the SquA fans? Those are pretty good and look nice
calm flint
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@burnt goblet are all air coolers able to be mounted with the fan and heatsinks close to the mb? or is this a specific kind I have to look for

burnt goblet
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it sounds like what you are talking about is what is known as "low height" coolers

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let me just grab a couple of pictures :)

calm flint
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yup that's it, I had no idea what they were actually called lmao

burnt goblet
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NOT a low height one

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the first is about 65mm iirc

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and the other is 150mm

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@calm flint the first one is generally used for systems that use integrated graphics, office machines etc

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where you dont need/want the case itself to be very big

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also, the person who tried to post a link, you cannot post a link until you get to lvl 3, its our antispam protection. IF you need me to post it for you, send me a dm

calm flint
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yeah but honestly I prefer the look of the low profile ones much more than air coolers with big height and kind of just look blocky to me

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I just didnt knowing I'd be sacrificing cooling performance

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if I'd be*

silent raptor
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I got a phantom ping so it was probably bcarey replying to me with a lnik @burnt goblet

inner hamlet
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@silent raptor I hade these

burnt goblet
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ah @silent raptor :)

inner hamlet
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yeah it was me

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i tried sending a link from newegg

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Enermax T.B RGB 120mm Case Fan with 3 in 1 Remote Controller and Control Box, Halo Arc-Shaped Frame, RGB Sync via Motherboard, UCTBRGB12-BP6 - 6 Fan Pack

burnt goblet
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@calm flint depending on what you need cooled, the low profile coolers can be 100% enough

silent raptor
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Oh the TBs aren't bad either

burnt goblet
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@calm flint you will ofc be trading noise for performance. that should be quite obvious

silent raptor
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the SquAs have a unique look tho and move a lot of air

inner hamlet
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yeah they do look really cool

silent raptor
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  • $65 CAD for a 3 pack of unicorn vomit fans of that caliber is a very good price
inner hamlet
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gotta love unicorn vomit tho

silent raptor
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Enermax make some good fans even if their AIOs have historically had some pretty huge problems

inner hamlet
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yeah i bought the enermax liqtech 3 before i knew the issues it had

heady gust
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edf\

shadow raptor
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Hi guys, I'm new in this channel and I would like that somebody help me. I bought a corsair H115i pro cooling and I can see that the fans doesn't turn on the lights

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I was checking in some videos and I don't know why my fans just have a cable that is connected to the Corsair water bomb but I don't have a second one to connect to the controller

low pumice
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DM the link to me, I'll send it

shadow raptor
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Okey, perfect

shadow raptor
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So I doesn't have RGB, maybe they sent me different fans for this cooler? D:

low pumice
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The H115i pro xt doesn't have rgb on the fans

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Just on the pump

shadow raptor
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oh really I thought that It has it

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Fine at least now I know it

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There's no problem anyway to buy two 140mm fans to replace the originals, right?

low pumice
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Nah

shadow raptor
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I should be exactly the same

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Perfect! Okey, good decision to ask before open a conversation with Corsair/Amazon hehee

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Thank you for your help 🙂

river lichen
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So I’ve got 3 new rgb fans. My rear exhaust fan isn’t rgb. I’m adding 2 of the fans to the top for exhaust. So I’m debating what to do with my 3rd fan. Should I swap the rear exhaust out with an rgb fan. Or should I add the rgb fan for a second fan on my cpu cooler? 🤔🤔🤔

river lichen
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Well I’ve moved the rear exhaust fan to the cpu cooler. About to drop in the 3 rgbs, 2 up top and 1 in back

calm flint
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can anyone recommend some good low profile/low height air coolers? preferable good price-performance value and of course rgb

burnt goblet
sudden dagger
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Anyone test the white Ll120 vs the black Ll120? Seems like the white have a higher cfm and rpm compared to the black. Can't find the white ones online anywhere.

maiden delta
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My wraith stealth is not doing a good job cooling my 3600. Just rendering a video for like 10 mins puts it up to 86 degrees c

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Probably gonna buy a wraith prism to replace it but is there any concern running it that hot for short periods of time?

little skiff
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... can you even buy a Wraith Prism separately?

low pumice
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sometimes

maiden delta
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sometimes?

pearl ice
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I'm using a eSports Duo on my Ryzen 3600. Works great - I think one thing to take into account is whether your have your power settings on maximum/balanced. Also check how you have your fans placed in your case. I'm on my second build @maiden delta

maiden delta
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How do i see what my power settings are on. Also i have very optimal fan placement

pearl ice
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Go to your windows search bar (I'm assuming you're on Win 10) and type in "Power & Sleep Settings"

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Then, scroll down on that window until you see "Additional Power Settings"

maiden delta
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oh

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im on high performance

pearl ice
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That'll be a cause, does it hit 86 C when you're gaming? or just idle?

maiden delta
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nope never while gaming. lower 70s at most even after a while. also its not hitting 86 while idle, its hitting 86 while rendering stuff

pearl ice
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OH I see you're video editing--

maiden delta
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yep

pearl ice
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I think thats kind of normal - give it shot again with the Ryzen power settings as Balanced

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Ryzen had developed 'specific' power settings for their CPUs, Windows 10 has their own specific power settings which can tax your CPU more causing higher temps

maiden delta
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alright ill try that next time

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thx for the input

pearl ice
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Yeah just make sure you're using "AMD Ryzen" related-power plans for your Ryzen hardware

maiden delta
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and where do i check that lol

pearl ice
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Same place

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There should be a few options, one sec.

maiden delta
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ill send a screenshot

pearl ice
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I see, click additional plans at the bottom-I'll send a screenshot of what it should look like

maiden delta
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It only shows a power saving plan in there

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take your time

pearl ice
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check your DMs, I couldn't attach anything

maiden delta
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sure

river lichen
unique delta
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how much of a differnece will i see in temps going from a 240 to a 280 (with same db and same make/brand, just diff size)

low pumice
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not that much

unique delta
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how many degress would you expect

low pumice
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I mean depends on cpu and load but prob like 2c

unique delta
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oh wow damn

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i am not missing only going for a 240 then xD

low pumice
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not a big difference

lusty gulch
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Any thoughts on optimal 240 rad cooler position and case airflow and/or amount of intake and exhaust fans?

low pumice
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No

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120mm aio are bad

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Get a drp4 or d15 at the same price :p

prime ocean
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alright thanks 🙂

proper hollow
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Does anyone know any good gpu blocks for sub zero water cooling?

cobalt lark
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Which is better, the NZXT Kraken X53 or X63?

low pumice
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@proper hollow any full nickel block or full copper can handle chilled water, LN2 idk though.

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At lower temps the acrylic blocks can crack

proper hollow
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Will acetal blocks crack as well? @low pumice

low pumice
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I'm not too sure, all I know is the suggestion is to go full metal, and acrylic can crack.

proper hollow
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should I go with a die only block to avoid condensation orjust add insulation to the block?

low pumice
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Well I think a full block would be good for also cooling vram, I dunno with chilled water and stuff tho

idle tiger
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What are you putting in the water to keep it from freezing?
Ethylene glycol or any methanol/ethanol based coolant will eat up most consumer pc water cooling hardware.

low pumice
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I was reading glycol working with most parts I dunno

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But that was also a post on chillers not loop

idle tiger
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What kind of chiller are you using? A Haiea or something?
Best to not let the coolant drop below the dew point.
If you do, build a purge box instead of insulating.

proper hollow
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a glycol mixture most likely I plan on experimenting to figure out my best concentration

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I plan on using a condenser from a old air conditioner to chill the water below 0

idle tiger
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What's the goal here? Benching? Or for daily?

proper hollow
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Daily

idle tiger
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Example, friend of mine built this purge box using a chest freezer with a bed of silica beads and 3 Haiea chilers.

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The build in the vid is an 8086k and two Titan RTX's I think

proper hollow
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what temps does he run?

idle tiger
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I mean, water is simply a far better coolant - calculate what temps you need and add enough glycol to prevent freezing.
I recommend prestone, get the one that's just ethylene glycol, diethylene glycol and corrosion inhibitor

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I think it was around -10C or something

proper hollow
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gylcol is also good for anti fowling but I dont know how big of a deal that is for rads

lusty gulch
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100% ignored.

granite patrol
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idk i never hear my noctua fans anyways :))

supple gate
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Do fan placement matter

gilded surge
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Yes

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It also matters which way you have the fans, because it will either bring air in, or bring air out of your system

supple gate
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on my pc should i flip fans?

dreamy jolt
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Im in need of replacement fans for my radiator. I have been told that normal case fans aren't the same as rad fans so im looking for some help in getting the right kind of replacement fans and what you might recommend?

magic sparrow
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@copper patrol You had the Corsair watercooling right? Be careful not to add any pressure on that GPU block IO there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MjpWwP9Sno

This is a follow-up video I made when I discovered what I believe is a design flaw on corsair XG7 waterblock. After that video went live someone commented and said Corsair is aware of the issue and if I reach out they will repair the leaking block. So I thought why not its doi...

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cold island
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yeah considering he already rma'd it its a design flaw in every model, not just one or a few

dapper ether
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@dreamy jolt check out the artic f12's for a good budget friendly option

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Or Noctua A12x25 for premium option

lusty gulch
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Ignored again.

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Not even like I'm asking something super complicated, just can't get a definitive answer anywhere.

frail burrow
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@lusty gulch whats your question? maybe i can help

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im brand new and dont feel like scrolling

lusty gulch
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I asked if there are optimal 240mm rad case position, fan direction, case airflow direction, and/or total amount of fan.

frail burrow
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ok yes

lusty gulch
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I know I would prefer positive air pressure to prevent dust builduo.

frail burrow
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yep i would agree with that

lusty gulch
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buildup*

frail burrow
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case position, people seem to say top is best, mine is in the front tho because i cannot fit it above my mobo

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which is working fine for me

lusty gulch
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My case is a Lian Li, currently my Rad is front mounted, but the from is not an open mesh, however it does have open slits all down the sides, top, and bottom.

frail burrow
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ok good to know

lusty gulch
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The top of course is open air with a magnetic filter.

frail burrow
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basically my understanding is air comes in the front and out the top and back

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as for number of fans

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just as many as you can lol

lusty gulch
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Yes but right now I only have one rear fan.

frail burrow
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same

lusty gulch
#

I'm trying to decide between.

frail burrow
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top fans are important

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i would try to fill the airflow capabilities of your case

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dont leave open slots

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if you can

topaz blaze
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Top = exhaust

lusty gulch
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Do I get two more fans and mount them top for more exhaust, especially since my GPU is an open air cooler, and a rather beastly 2070 Super Gigabyte triple fan design that kicks off a lot of heat.

frail burrow
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yes

lusty gulch
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Or do I move the Rad to the top and put three intake fans in the front.

frail burrow
#

well dont you have fans on the rad?

lusty gulch
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Two.

frail burrow
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so you have to move the fans with the rad

lusty gulch
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Yes.

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I'm getting more fans once I decide on the plan.

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One way I would only need two, the other I would need three.

frail burrow
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i will say it will make very little difference

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if you have the rad on the front, less air will be making it into the case while more heat will come out

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in theory

lusty gulch
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Which would also not give me positive air pressure.

frail burrow
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this is better than the other way around where you have too much exhaust

lusty gulch
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So in your opinion more air in or more air out?

frail burrow
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personally

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i would go more air in

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because that air will be cool

lusty gulch
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So move the rad to the top and get three intake fans for the front.

topaz blaze
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You need to get the hot air out...

lusty gulch
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And here's the debate.

frail burrow
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it makes like 0 difference in reality

topaz blaze
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You could technically go all exhaust and it would pull air in from the front.

frail burrow
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barely

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you need cool air in

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otherwise your components wont cool down

lusty gulch
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By creating more pull with exhaust year I get you.

topaz blaze
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Eh, not barely, built it a few times.

frail burrow
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why

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theres 0 benefit

topaz blaze
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I'm not even going to justify responding to you.

frail burrow
#

well you just did

lusty gulch
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Ok look guys I just wanted some advice.

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If it won't make a huge difference I won't worry about it.

frail burrow
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^

lusty gulch
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I just wondered if it did. I know my GPU puts off a lot of heat and wondered if more exhaust might help with that.

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It seems like it just heats up every other component when it's working hard and the fans for the gpu and cpu get loud, but my temps are phenominal.

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I thought changing my cooling flow/adding addition fans might help quiet everything down a bit.

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additional*

dreamy jolt
#

@dapper ether i've been thinking about getting one of the noctua fans seeing as ive heard alot of good things about them. Is there a equal version from noctua that you recommended but in black instead? as the location of the fans will be seen and won't blend so well in my case...

dapper ether
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The A12x15's come in black and are still really good fans

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If you look at their website they have a ton of 120mm options

dreamy jolt
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Yeah I did look at there website but there is so many different ones I got a little overwhelmed at what I was looking at 😂 wasn't sure what the right things were and such

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Whatever I get I think the 4pin pwm will be part of the specs so I can link it to my fan hub

dapper ether
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Yeah that's fair lol

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Look for high airflow and low static pressure

dreamy jolt
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gotcha

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Appreciate the help. Seems difficult to get a straight answer on here sometimes so its nice to have someone be concise 😛

dapper ether
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No problem man

topaz blaze
#

Yo, ordered a rockit cool 9900k delid and direct die complete kit yesterday and its already shipped out yesterday ready to arrive by Wednesday at the latest 👍

dapper ether
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Nice, are you using an AIO on it?

dreamy jolt
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https://noctua.at/en/nf-s12a-pwm-chromax-black-swap
https://noctua.at/en/nf-f12-pwm-chromax-black-swap
https://noctua.at/en/nf-a12x15-pwm-chromax-black-swap
These would be the 3 im looking at given the colour can be matched to my case. Would any of them do the trick or you recomend one more then the other?

topaz blaze
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@dapper ether nope

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Il be ordering a new nickel ek block for liquid metal direct die

dapper ether
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S12A's are optimized for case fans

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Noctua has a guide on which fans is optimized for what

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But I would put as many rads as you can in the case

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And use SP optimized fans

dreamy jolt
#

Well i currently have a rad in there now that holds 2 fans. I might upgrade the aio to a triple rad later down the line but now right now though. So i basically just wanna get 2 new fans to go on this current rad that are suitable for it

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https://noctua.at/en/nf-f12-pwm-chromax-black-swap
Well this looks like the one that would do the job but its not in stock via the amazon link it gives 🤦‍♂️

dapper ether
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Yeah the F12 is a good fan for a radiator

dreamy jolt
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I just gotta find a retailer with it in stock now

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other then newegg and amazon who else is good to buy through?

low pumice
#

Chromax is likely all out of stock

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It's too popular of an option

dreamy jolt
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mm of course
Any alternative brands you would recommend that would do what im in need of?

low pumice
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Be quiet

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They make quality black fans.

dreamy jolt
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any particular model that you know of which is suited to rads

low pumice
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Oh wait, radiator wise, you can also look into Arctic p12, those should be ~8$ a pop.

dreamy jolt
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Im not necessarily looking for budget pricing here btw. So idk if that kind of pricing is gonna compromise quality at all

low pumice
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I understand, afterall Noctua isn't the cheapest, but I just happen to remember the p12 fans are very good for radiators.

dapper ether
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I am using Corsair ML 140 Pros and they work well

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P12 are good choices for radiators, probably get you 80% of the way there at a much better price point

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see if you can find some ML 120 Pros

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the non-rgb version perform slightly better

dreamy jolt
#
dapper ether
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yeah

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they are the same, just one is a twin pack and the other is a single

dreamy jolt
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Oh ok

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And they would be suitable for a rad?

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This fan seems pretty good but i just dont trust/know any of the suppliers

dapper ether
#

the ML120 Pros are good for rads

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compare the static pressure on the Be Quiets to the ML120 Pros

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or look up reviews between the 2

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you want better static pressure for radiator fans

dreamy jolt
#

Im assuming the higher the number the better it is for static pressure?

dapper ether
#

correct

#

but those numbers on paper only go so far, I would recommend looking up reviews and comparisons

dreamy jolt
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ok

#

Also in regards to the whole AIO itself. I had a little confusion on how it mouted on the top in the phanteks enthoo evolv x case. Would i be right in having it that the fans are mounted ontop of the rad and not under the rad? I would assume it be better to have them ontop so it can blow the hot air out

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But then again i see people mount the fans on the underside of the rad instead so well yeah

dapper ether
#

Push or pull config doesnt make a big difference really. Some say pull is easier to clean since dust doesnt get stuck against the rad but performance wise its either way

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I would recommend having the rad be an intake though so you get fresh cool air over it

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if you have it as exhaust its pushing warmer air over the rad

dreamy jolt
#

Ive always been led to believe that i would want the rad fans as an exhaust to take the hot air out of the PC given that heat rises so it will rise away from the unit

dapper ether
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natural convection is so easy to overcome that it really doesnt make a difference

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any type of fan will easily overcome natural convection. the real important part is get the coolest air possible over the rad to take as much heat out of the coolant as possible

dreamy jolt
#

Ok well then i would effectively need to just flip my fans then

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I am concerned ive mounted my rad in the wrong way in this case but i cant find any build guide with this case that shows the rad being installed to the top properly

low pumice
#

Well, the rad is commonly placed on top with fans on exhaust so people can have their nice front rgb

dapper ether
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can you not get it in the front?

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front as intake and exhaust out top is pretty typical

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then you can have fans pulling from front and get your rgb too

low pumice
#

Airflow wise it's similar between front and top afaik

dreamy jolt
#

I was trying to do it with the fans on the underside when i put it together but i didnt understand what the right screws were for holding the rad as the heads all seemed to small

dreamy jolt
#

Half tempted to just replace the AIO for a new one that fits the length of the case tbh

dapper ether
#

getting one that fills the whole space pleases my OCD

dreamy jolt
#

That's kinda why I want to do it tbh.
Well any aio recommendations for the case?
My CPU is an i7 8700k. Can't remember the LGA for that

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RGB is not preferred but not against it

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Or it atleast be addressable

dapper ether
#

before I had my loop I like the NZXT AIOs

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but Corsairs are good to like the one you have

dreamy jolt
#

My current aio is cooler master not Corsair

low pumice
#

Arctic freezer ii

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The only AIO I would reccomend with it's price in mind

dreamy jolt
#

Hmmm. I've changed the position of the fans to be like this now instead and it didn't make the clipping noise I mentioned about yesterday on boot up now

dapper ether
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Lol, for the frames right?

dreamy jolt
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What do you mean?

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Oh wait

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Whoosh joke over my head 😂

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It looks like a good option but i cant decide if i truly like it or not. Ive always been one that just not a huge fan of RGB but now that i have the Phanteks evolv x case it almost seems like i just gotta go all the way

dapper ether
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Imo there is a good level of rgb and then there is way too much. I like to use it to accentuate a theme, mainly using a static color

dreamy jolt
#

Tbh if I were to do it where the fans can be seen then I would get static colour fans of one solid colour

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I think with the AIO I linked I'd be able to control the fans specific colours with the icue software wouldn't I?

dapper ether
#

Yes

hasty shell
#

Anyone know if there is supposed to be a fan splitter on the x73 kracken?

azure crown
#

idk, did you read the manual?

final crescent
#

Anyone have a Silverstone PF360-ARGB 94 and tried using w/ iCue?

rugged nimbus
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It's likely doable with some diy ing

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Like you can buy connector heads for iCue's RGB connecters and whatever Silverstone uses and wire them provided they are both three pin rgb connections

(Data, power, ground)

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You just lookup pinouts and match them in an adapter cable

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Some four pin ones would work two provided that they have those aforementioned pins

final crescent
#

so not w/o some monkeying w/ it, gotcha. i will just hope that the H150i gets in stock somewhere for less than $300 then lol

rugged nimbus
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If it happens to be a standard argb header, there are third party adapter cables you can buy :)

final crescent
#

it does have the 3 pin ARGB

rugged nimbus
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That first one might work

prisma minnow
#

Hey guys,

i think i kind of screwed up my thermal paste that was on my cooler and want to reapply new oone. Any recommendations?

low pumice
#

Nt-h2

rugged nimbus
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Thermal grizzly kryonaut

idle tiger
#

KPX KermitVader

cobalt lark
copper patrol
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yes

magic wave
#

yes

lusty gulch
#

I've done some research and testing on my own since asking this, but it seems that with an open air style GPU (which most of us use) the position of the RAD doesn't seem to affect GPU temperatures but GREATLY affects CPU temperatures. When mounted at the top as exhaust it is regularly sucking in all that hot air as the GPU puts out far more hot air than the RAD does. However, if you front mount it as intake and have at least two extra fans as top exhaust, it seems to pull the hot air from the RAD in a kind of curve upwards to be exhausted, while also pulling the GPU heat straight up with it, not affecting GPU temps at all but allowing for significantly cooler CPU operation. My results are based on a Lian Li Lancool 205 case with a 240 mm Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240L but with 2 masterfan mf120r argb 120mm fans on the rad instead of the stock fans, two of the same fans mounted as top exhaust, and 1 of the same fan mounted as rear exhaust. Hope this helps someone with a similar case design.

stuck lava
#

can u do any type of overclocking with the cooler that some ryzen cpus come with?

cobalt lark
#

@stuck lava depends, which one?

stuck lava
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1600 af?

cobalt lark
#

I personally haven't had experience nor seen videos of it, sorry, I wouldn't be able to help with that one. 😦

topaz blaze
#

I have a 980ti strix with 3 noctuas strapped on, 0 overclocking, good airflow, and still get temps around 80-83 degrees. What should i do?

magic wave
#

moar fanz

topaz blaze
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Ight

magic wave
#

another thing you could do is to apply new thermal paste

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900 series is getting ole

topaz blaze
#

Oh i forgot to add, i did

magic wave
#

I'd be worried about my 700 series but it's a GT 730 and produces no heat

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ah ok

#

what are the official max temps from nVidia?

topaz blaze
#

Guess im ordering a scythe mugen

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It seems that 83 is normal

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But still a bit hot to my liking

magic wave
#

might give off heat to other things in the computer ig

topaz blaze
#

So, I'm probably getting a 3900x, and I have a BeQuiet! Dark Rock 4.

Is there a better air cooler I could use that doesn't look like crap?

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cough noctua cough

magic wave
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something something Noctua

topaz blaze
#

Noctua looks like poopoo

#

Uh

magic wave
#

black fans

topaz blaze
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Just get a blacked out one

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they make those?

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Mhm

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how get?

magic wave
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buy Noctua

topaz blaze
#

I don't see anything on PCPP

magic wave
topaz blaze
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oh, I see

magic wave
#

chromax.black

topaz blaze
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They make blacked out versions of the normal coolers. Pcpp would probably just show the standard model

magic wave
#

I've seen the black ones on there

topaz blaze
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Idk then

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do they not make something between the NH-D15 and the small 120mm one?

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if not, how good is the mounting for Noctua? am I going to need to be worried about my board at all?

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also, apparently the only one not on PCPP is the D15

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yeah, probably going to have to get the NH-D15 Chromax

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well, there goes another $200 lmao

dreamy jolt
#

Just been looking at the NZXT AIO and was quite set on a particular one until i read some comments on amazon of people saying the software for the kraken is very very bad and doesnt work as it should. Is this still an issue to this day or is it something that isnt actually as bad as people are making it out to be. I kept reading that the pump doesnt function properly without having the software which im kinda just wanting something to plug and play with very little config needed

low pumice
#

@topaz blaze mounting on the d15 is pretty great imo :p. It might be worth looking into Nh-d15s if you have rgb ram, because the second fan might block the rgb.

shell saddle
heady gust
#

@shell saddle What specs will you have?

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If its a fairly light system it will not require that much fans

shell saddle
granite patrol
#

thats alotta fans

heady gust
#

How much will all the fans cost?

shell saddle
#

Was thinking i could always PWM down the fans at idle.

granite patrol
#

i guess if you like the rgb its worth

heady gust
#

Its not worth it if you just get a better case

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like thte TD 500 mesh

granite patrol
#

but performance wise theres little benefit

heady gust
#

@shell saddle No reason for over 60 in fans for a fairly basic chassis

shell saddle
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2 x 120mm come with the case.
And psu 140mm is also built in

So only bought 2 x 140mm and 1 x 120mm (all $14 ea)

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Maybe I'll actively use the two 140mm front intake and rear 120mm fan + psu... and keep top fans off until/if temp rises

heady gust
#

Just get a sub 100 case, much better value and expandability

shell saddle
#

Sub 100?

granite patrol
#

around 100$, comes with 3 rgb fans, looks nice

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the td500

heady gust
#

yep

granite patrol
#

mesh

heady gust
#

i have it rn

granite patrol
#

lmao amazon

heady gust
#

building when ram comees

granite patrol
#

and their reviews

heady gust
#

and ssd

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gud

granite patrol
#

nice nice

heady gust
#

^^^

low pumice
#

@shell saddle thats an interesting setup

granite patrol
#

if ur not at a microcenter for their 20$ off deal i think 3600 is better

topaz blaze
#

@topaz blaze do you think you really need that strong of a cooler?

earnest pivot
#

is 85C safe?

maiden delta
#

Technically yea,
But thats as high as I would let anything run

earnest pivot
#

ok

low pumice
#

If it's 85c under load, yea it's fine, 85c idle, you got a problem.

earnest pivot
#

kk

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thanks

supple gate
#

Can someone help me with fan placement

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I have side panel fans if that makes sense

granite patrol
#

send pic

topaz blaze
#

@topaz blaze I want to keep my CPU sub 70C under all core OC and 100% load

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if possible

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so, 3900x, I think that isn't really overkill? Maybe I'm wrong?

granite patrol
#

nope

versed hare
#

How good is the Noctua NH-U12s black?

spark scarab
#

@idle tiger What Are you Building?

cold island
#

dunno but it looks scary

spark scarab
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Thats what Im saying

#

looks like some masive Hybrid cooler of some kind

idle tiger
#

memes

spark scarab
#

Ah Ok

prime ocean
#

that is a massive power strip

idle tiger
spark scarab
#

Wish I had a Power Strip That Size

idle tiger
#

$20/$10 each from my university surplus store

spark scarab
#

Nice

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I just Bought One at Walmart that Site Flush on the Wall and Has USB ports on it.

novel wedge
#

Uber tier flex

supple gate
#

if i send picture can someone tell me if i should rotate my fans

distant kernel
#

Sry I'm a noob but if my GPU comes with fans on it why would I need liquid cooling?

topaz blaze
#

@topaz blaze I have a 6600k overclocked to 4.6ghz and never go above 65 with a hyper 212 evo

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a $200 air cooler isnt necessary

rugged nimbus
#

You probably don't "need" liquid gpu cooling, but for OC you need good thermals and liquid is an option for those with deep pockets

low pumice
#

You never need GPU liquid cooling, it's just OCing that might be nice

#

You can OC a fair bit without liquid cooling

topaz blaze
#

he doesnt need to set aside that much for a cooler. Air or liquid

lusty gulch
#

With good case airflow I can get up to 2200mhz (after GPU Boost 4.0?) on my Gigabyte 2070 Super triple fan design and my temps never exceed 65c while gaming. I don't think GPU water cooling is quite as necessary as CPU water cooling for overclocking but to each their own.

magic sparrow
#

custom loops get you quiet noise levels on the GPU and looks. That's about it

spark scarab
#

If the GPU has its own RAD it does help with overall Thermals as Liquid can cool a little faster than air cooling but not by much since the RAD does most of the Cooling work

dapper ether
#

My loop improved my GPU thermals a lot, on Nvidia cards that just means itll boost higher for longer but not get you higher maximum mhz

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Nvidia starts down clocking at 40C iirc

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I put a g12 in my GPU before the loop and it did really well with a 140mm AIO

maiden delta
#

If someone was to have a 360mm radiator on the top and 3 front intake and 1 rear exhaust would it be better to make the 360 radiator intake or exhaust

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I would think that it would be better to make it intake so cool air can cool it but that seems like a LOT of positive airflow.

idle tiger
#

Just keep in mind that a GPU air cooler can put out ~300 watts of heat, keep that exhaust out of any radiator intake.

maiden delta
#

Ok tupb

#

So the top intake sounds like the way to go then.

#

Can too much positive airflow be bad in anyway?

bronze relic
#

I would assume too much positive airflow would cause pressure inside the case, maybe? Don't quote me on that though.

#

I have problems of my own too... my CHA Fans aren't being detected even in the BIOS... anyone have any tips? Both the mobo and fans are brand new out of the box.

shell saddle
#

@bronze relic equal intake and output creates flow, so you'd want to keep fairly balanced, ir at least make sure there are vents for air to escape.
If you lean more on the positive pressure side, then air will be taken in through (preferably) filtered fans, and not sucked in through crevices, keeping internal dist to a minimum.

magic sparrow
#

positive, negative, and neutral airflows and which one is better depends on the case

prime ocean
#

@bronze relic Does your case have a button for the fans?

magic sparrow
#

@spark scarab The liquid itself doesnt really help with removing the heat. It's the fact that the surface area of the rad increases as well as the airflow. On a GPU the fan pushes the air past the fins and then it hits the PCB where the air has a hard time getting out of the way. That or it hits the "L" shaped fins and also has trouble escaping. On a rad the air just goes straight past the fins without much issue other then static pressure. Fin density is also usually higher on rads as well which allows for more surface area. Plus some rads are also just larger in volume then GPU coolers allowing for even more surface area

low pumice
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@magic sparrow Well the liquid does help in delaying the GPU from reaching the highest temps it'll go

topaz blaze
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@topaz blaze I'm planning on all core OC on a 3900x or 3950x though? and I don't really have a "budget" if all goes as planned.

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oh I didn't know it was a threadripper you were going to overclock. That's a different ballpark

dreamy jolt
feral acorn
#

I currently run a ryzen 2600 clocked at 3.8ghz at 1.3v with a stock cooler. After a 10 min test of cpu burner of all 12 cores thru msi kombuster and cpuz cpu stress at same time I hit a max load of 70c and idle temp of 37c. Would it be dumb to look for another cpu cooler such as air or a 120mm aio cooler? My case only allows me a 120mm rad on the rear of the case. Or just save my money and stay with the stocker cooler?

granite patrol
#

nope, 70 deg is safe and 120mm aios are generally bad

feral acorn
#

I originally was looking at aio then decided on all air cooling and the cooler I got didn't fit so had to return and just used the stock cooler. I was going to overclock to 4 ghz but didn't think the stock cooler would handle it

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I have 6 120mm fans running in my case and I have the fan curve set up to kick in at certain temps but was curious about getting a aftermarket cooler

granite patrol
#

stock cooler should be fine for the 2600

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i have mine at 2600x 3.9 ghz

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ik its slightly better but still

feral acorn
#

Okay didn't know if I should try n get another cooler or just save my money w stock unit.

lost hinge
#

My thermal paste came could somebody help give me pointers

low pumice
#

with what

lost hinge
#

So I got x-4 thermal paste

low pumice
#

ok

lost hinge
#

So I know how to apply it, a tiny dot and they gave me a plastic spreader

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But I have a laptop, so do I need to apply it to the GPU and CPU?

low pumice
#

put some on the cpu and spread it around, too much isn't that bad

#

eh do both if you want

lost hinge
#

Do alcohol swabs that are 70% work too for cleaning thermal paste

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Or 3% hydrogen peroxide

idle tiger
#

Alcohol swabs are fine, as is paper towell. Don't use peroxide for anything computer related.

lost hinge
#

I was guessing that’s a terrible idea lol

solid sandal
#

Amway!

topaz blaze
#

Hi

#

Can anyone help me with my cpu cooking ?

#

cpu cooking? Intel can

low pumice
#

lmfao

topaz blaze
#

Yeah

#

Cooling or cooking

#

I put the fans a certain way lol

#

Can’t post a photo damn

spark scarab
#

@granite patrol I have my 2600X at 4.0ghz On all cores and I run a Custom Water cooling loop with a 120mm Rad and my Temps never get above 71c

low pumice
#

@spark scarab try prime95 smalfft

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Eh 2600x 71c seems reasonable actually at 4ghz

spark scarab
#

I want to get a 240mm RAD so I can push it up a little further. Would like to run 4.1ghz stable but my temps got to high for my liking

cold island
#

wuuut why a 120mm custom loop

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or do u mean an aio

magic sparrow
#

240mm custom seems kinda small as well

low pumice
#

Eh

#

Custom CPU seems alright

spark scarab
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My case only supports up to a 240mm

magic sparrow
#

If it's custom, 240+120 or 240+240 is possible

spark scarab
#

No. I just have a custom loop I built myself.

low pumice
#

Full loop or only cpu

magic sparrow
#

What i mean is with custom 2+ rads in a loop is possible

spark scarab
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There's only room for 1 240mm in my case

magic sparrow
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what about 120mm?

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240+120

spark scarab
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I have 1 120mm mounted where I can fit up to a 240mm

magic sparrow
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also why did you go custom with a 2600X+5500XT?

spark scarab
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Cause I had the loop prior to my current build and I'm over locked on the CPU

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Overclocked^^^

low pumice
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Damn ok

spark scarab
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I still have to get a AM4 waterblock. Currently using a FM2 that I managed to get to fit properly

cobalt lark
solid sandal
twilit bane
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So I wasn't really sure where to ask this but here goes.
I recently moved to France from the US and brought my PC with me. My PSU says it supports the 220V, and the PC boots up fine.

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However, I noticed the fan noise was much louder than usual.

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I ignored it for a while, and now that I finally have a proper monitor, I booted up hwmonitor to this:

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I'm pretty sure my CPU shouldn't be running around 70 degrees at near idle?

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What can I do to remedy this? Why would my CPU be running so hot all of a sudden?

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Could my CPU fan not be making good contact with the CPU anymore? Or would it be a Europe voltage issue?

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For reference I have an i7-7700, and am using a cooler master CPU air cooler.

solid sandal
magic sparrow
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@twilit bane smth happened probs during the move. Is the actual CPU fan plugged in or is it just SYS fans ramping up (CPU fan plugged into CPU fan header?)? Is there something in the way of the CPU fan that you forgot to remove for padding inside the case during the move? Is the CPU cooler fully seated onto the CPU or has it come loose? Did the thermal paste get dry just simply from being old or exposure to difference temps/atmosphere/smth else? Lot o dust?

twilit bane
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1) The CPU fan is indeed turning, so it is plugged in.
2) I have removed all of the antistatic peanuts. The fan turns fine (and makes lots of noise).
3) Not sure how to check.. the mounting for the cooler is a bit odd. The cooler doesn't move if I shake it with mild force.
4) The thermal paste is from a couple months ago, should be fine.. it was working alright back in the US.
5) No dust that I can see. It's surprisingly clean.```
distant kernel
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is liquid cooling hard to install, and do you need special parts for it? I avoided it when I built my pc simply bcuz I didn't want to do the extra research lmao

twilit bane
magic wave
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UwU

solid sandal
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🍁

magic wave
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@distant kernel no, just gotta install AIO water block, install AIO radiator, and install radiator fan

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then plug it in

distant kernel
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k

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thx

twilit bane
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So how could I check if my cooler is making good contact with the CPU?

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It looks like it is, and it doesn't move around if I try to move it.

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That's the only point from @magic sparrow that I couldn't check off.

dapper ether
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you can unmount and look at the thermal paste spread

spark scarab
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@distant kernel If You want to go liquid cooling and dont want to build a loop go with a AIO. They come prefilled and require very little maintenance other than a occasional cleaning of the RAD and fans.

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I got my liquid cooling setup as a kit and havent had any problems with it leaking or anything. Most kits come with all the hardware if you want to go custom loop.

distant kernel
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cool thx

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im mostly just trying to get the sound of my fans down

spark scarab
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Yeah I hated that when I was air cooled. They would ramp up pretty loud due to where the room my PC is located. It gets hot in here. Soon I will be moving it into the basement.

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Granted we are talking like 2 years ago I was air cooled. I havent gone back to it since. I get way better temps with liquid cooling.

low pumice
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@twilit bane It's prob a good idea to just remount and repaste

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if you have more paste around

twilit bane
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I remounted it, but I have no extra paste sadly.

low pumice
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ah that would be good whenever possible

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I'm gonna repaste my d15 soon

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because temps are unsatisfactory and I need the d15 off to try using my old ssd

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so might as well do both

twilit bane
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after a second cooler reseat, we're running around 50 deg idle

low pumice
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seems better

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agh I gotta start controlling my fans from bios

twilit bane
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According to some app I downloaded on my phone, we're now running at 49dB (phone balanced on GPU next to fan).

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Since I didn't think to measure before, I have no idea how much of an improvement it is.

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But hey it seems better so yay.

granite patrol
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cheapest bundle of rgb fans?

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like arctic fan price but rgb

maiden delta
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Idk uphere makes some decent ones

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Or if you prefer argb there's these

granite patrol
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what would be the main difference between argb/rgb?

low pumice
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aRGB uses 5v RGB uses 12v

maiden delta
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Argb means addressable rgb. It means you can change specific portions of the light to different colors opposed to everything being the same color in rgb. Also it uses a 5v and rgb uses 12v

granite patrol
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aight so its mobo compatibility?

stone jackal
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I have a 5 pack UpHere RGB fans. They plug into their own hub and you have to use he included remote to change them but they’re really good. And they were like $30

magic sparrow
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@maiden delta upHere seems to mainly focus on ARGB. Idk about stock anymore tho as I didn't see much after checking semi-recently

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More ARGB fan types then RGB for upHere

maiden delta
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Oh ok

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The stock is absolutely ridiculous rn tho

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So go with whats in stock ig

river gorge
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I have those Inwin fans

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they are really good

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push tons of air, and quiet

limpid goblet
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I just bought a fish tank, copper tubing and making a custom case for the fish tank with 2 480mm radiators with 3M liquid

long sphinx
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Would yall suggest the liquid cooling or the fans?

low pumice
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FANS

scarlet comet
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does an nzxt g12 reduce stability on a gtx 1080 FE not overclocked? if i got a 240mm radiator? some say they work great and other people say it kills their die

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all sort of insurance and warrantee is already expired. its refurb and over two years past the purchase date on newegg

idle tiger
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NZXT g12's are super popular for GPU cooling / overclocking

scarlet comet
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ik but i've heard theyre risky

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id love to do it

idle tiger
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It's as safe as you are careful.

scarlet comet
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how much better do you think a 240mm rad would perform over my 1080 FE with a blower? sits around 80c full load

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and so loud

topaz blaze
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does anyone have an annoying wheezing sound from CPU cooler

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its annoying af

maiden delta
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^ this issue was resolved

magic sparrow
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@scarlet comet g12 isnt worth it unless you already have a 240mm rad. Buying the rad + g12 is pretty pricy for what it is vs other GPU watercooling kits or Arctics custom GPU air cooler

idle tiger
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A G12 + a 240/280 NZXT AIO like an x62 or x72 can sink 500+ watts of heat.

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The microfins on those AIOs are insanely thin.

dapper ether
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I ran XOC bios on my 2080ti on a G12 and it didnt get toasty unless I ran furmark

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Would run Time Spy at about 55-60C

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Still need to reflash it and try it on the loop to compare

smoky rover
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Anyone know how to fix coolermaster cpu cooler loud noise? holy shii its annoying lmao

low pumice
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msi afterburner doesn't do cpu fan speed

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it does gpu fan speed

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you'll have to use bios to turn down cpu fan speed, or whatever software from your motherboard manufacturer @smoky rover

unkempt spire
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yo my prebuilt has a 120mm water cooler and I haven't had any heating issues so far, is it worth upgrading to a 240mm anyway? Also, if I overclock it will I likely run into any problems?

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And I've benchmarked it with 3dmark and temps are fine

low pumice
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3dmarks doesn't put enough load on CPU

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Use prime95 smallfft

unkempt spire
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does cinemark work too?

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i meant cinebench

low pumice
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Not really :p

idle tiger
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Time spy is a decent cpu test that uses some avx2

low pumice
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I mean it gives you a sense

idle tiger
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But it's not as intense as prime95 small fft

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Or even the Aida64 fpu only test

low pumice
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Well Forks it's only part of time spy

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Aida64 works too

unkempt spire
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ok ill try prime 95 since ive already tried time spy thanks guys

low pumice
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Also time

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Because time spy CPU test takes like 40 seconds

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Not really enough to heat up the chip for long imo

unkempt spire
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also, where could i download prime 95 i dont want to accidentally download something wack

low pumice
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Especially with a small aio that might not reach peak temp without a few min

unkempt spire
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well ill try prime95

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and what website is the safest to get it from

low pumice
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Pretty sure that's the source, correct @idle tiger ?

idle tiger
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yes

unkempt spire
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ok thanks guys ill try this out and see if my temps are wack

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ok @idle tiger and @low pumice i just tried it and i stopped it because after about 6 or 7 minutes it hit 100C after being around 70-85 for a while

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then i stopped it because im nervous lmao

idle tiger
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Ya, prime 95 small fft is considered the worst case thermal/stability load for a reason

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Logic being - if it passes that, it'll pass any real world use case

low pumice
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Yea so it's likely it's stable with a good temp at right now

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Also forks I got smallfft working on 4.2ghz with higher voltage than 1.3

unkempt spire
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so will any actual games using 100 percent cpu do that or is prime95 an exception

idle tiger
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you're cooking your 3800x lol

low pumice
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prime95 is worst case scenerio

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@idle tiger it went to like 100c at 1.325v 4.2ghz

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so yea

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its chillin at 1.2v 4ghz iirc now

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o 1.25v

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lemme try 1.2v

unkempt spire
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so what is the maximum temperature a cpu can withstand without hurting itself because i cant tell if that smell is the popcorn in the other room or my pc

sharp zinc
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you usually dont wanna go above 80 as a good rule of thumb

low pumice
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Basically

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in synthetic tests like prime95, anything under 90c is fine

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because it's worst case scenerio

unkempt spire
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but if i hit 100 for like maybe a minute, could that have damaged it

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or am i fine

low pumice
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you're fine

sharp zinc
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its likely fine

unkempt spire
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k cool then that smell is just popcorn lmao

sharp zinc
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lmao

low pumice
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hitting above 95c for a long period of time hurt CPUs

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lol

sharp zinc
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is someone making popcorn

low pumice
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prob

unkempt spire
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i was a little while ago but the smell sticks around

sharp zinc
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yeh

low pumice
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Do CPUs even have a smell when it starts burning?

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I mean it's under the IHS

unkempt spire
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no clue

sharp zinc
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if you made popcorn, and you smell popcorn, its PROBABLY just popcorn

unkempt spire
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lol ik i just dont want to hurt my precious pc

sharp zinc
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i think it does but i wouldn't think popcorn

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like anything burning will produce a smell

low pumice
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yea the ihs might start burning too :p

unkempt spire
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ok but if i hit 100C with my i7 8700k after 6 or 7 minutes with prime 95 after good temps the rest of the time, does that mean i need a new cooler?

low pumice
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I mean no

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just don't overclock it

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new cooler is good to have, but it should work with current cooler

unkempt spire
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okay. and if i want to overclock it, is it easy to replace a water cooler? I really don't want to risk damaging something

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especially since my graphics card is right below

low pumice
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I mean AIOs are easy

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they're closed loop

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unless you somehow rip the tube apart no water is coming out lol

unkempt spire
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oh okay that might be fun to do then

sharp zinc
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do you already have a water cooler?

unkempt spire
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120mm aio

sharp zinc
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thn yeah it is closed so you should be fine

unkempt spire
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so not optimal, it came with my prebuilt which i figured would be the first thing to upgrade

sharp zinc
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but also you shouldn't be hitting 100 with a watercooler

low pumice
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I mean intel chip xD

cold island
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lowkey forgot how to spell pour for a second

unkempt spire
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120mm aio isnt that good

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i think

low pumice
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deafkid 120mm rads are tiny you know

sharp zinc
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its poor nuclear

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or pur

low pumice
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sure water will let it stay cooler for like 3 minutes yaknow

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but after the water gets hot

unkempt spire
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but to be fair i was using prime95 for a while and the temps were just fine before then until it just shot up

sharp zinc
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or sometiems piore

cold island
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tf pur

low pumice
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it aint cooling down

sharp zinc
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iunno

unkempt spire
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so is an air cooler better to use instead then, or should i get a 240mm aio

sharp zinc
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i mean sure but, without OC hitting 100?

unkempt spire
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it was absolutely in safe temps for the first 6 minutes

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and i havent had any problems until i tried prime95

low pumice
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eh

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intel chips run hawt so

unkempt spire
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so this will suffice i believe until i OC, unless it wont, you guys know more than i do

low pumice
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240mm aio might be good to have xD

green elbow
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I hate to be that guy but you didn't install it with the "remove this sticker" still on it did you?

sharp zinc
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also there are air coolers that are cheaper than AIOs that will give just as good performance

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it was prebuilt

low pumice
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@green elbow prebuilt

green elbow
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ah okay

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never mind then

low pumice
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I do wonder

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prebuilt AIOs are usually crappy but

unkempt spire
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yeah it was prebuilt why and okay ill keep that in mind, im down to put fans in more than i am to swap aios, but i will do either

low pumice
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what chip do you have again?

unkempt spire
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i7 8700k

sharp zinc
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i mean AIOs are cool, but like, if you wanna spend less, air coolers are an option too. just make sure to get a good one

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i would personally rather have an AIO but im cheap lol

cold island
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120mm aios are fine theyre just more expensive than air coolers for the performance

unkempt spire
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i dont really care for price, gonna get a part time job too since my school just finished, but yeah i figured an aio would be fine with the prebuilt since every other spec was good and unsuspicious,

low pumice
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70c with d15

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good aircooler should do fine

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I kinda thought 120mm aio would be just a bit worse than good air cooler but ehm

unkempt spire
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i heard its about as good as a decent air cooler

low pumice
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I got it >:D

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it's just beefy

unkempt spire
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but a really high end aircooler would beat it

green elbow
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good aircoolers can outperforming poor aios

low pumice
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d15s is better if you have RGB ram

cold island
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its like 5-10c warmer than the d15

low pumice
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because second fan in normal position can block rgb

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huh

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I thought it was a 3-4c difference

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I'll go take a look

cold island
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with a 120mm aio

unkempt spire
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i was using prime95

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so that might have something to do with it, my temps normally are pretty similar in games

low pumice
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thats an overclocked 6700k

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on prime95

cold island
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prime95 is the worst case scenario for a cpu, the less the load the closer they'll be

low pumice
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differences are minimal

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I think d15s is still pretty good

cold island
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yuh

unkempt spire
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lol yeah well since im getting a job soon since my school is over i can buy one, try it, and return it if i dont like it.

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thanks for the tips btw guys, i really appreciate how helpful yall are

old jacinth
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Can I get some halp?

azure crown
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No

old jacinth
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cri

low pumice
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Yes

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Always

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@old jacinth I seriously doubt they'll make a 3060ko

old jacinth
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Maybe lol

low pumice
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Right now it's just Corona and stuff with them having deficient 2080 dies laying around they can cut down and sell

old jacinth
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There is a 2060KO and a 2070KO so maybe? 🤔

low pumice
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I mean the performance of 2060ko and how it's like a 2080